Kershaw, Dodgers Win Battle With Giants On Guns Of Navarro
Dioner Navarro's splash hit into McCovey Cove off Tim Lincecum in the seventh inning was all the support Clayton Kershaw needed as the Dodgers avoided a sweep with a 1-0 win on getaway day at AT&T Park in San Francisco. Kershaw was magnificent, striking out a season-high 12 in eight scoreless innings, allowing only three hits and a walk. Kershaw leads MLB in strikeouts with 167.
Kershaw has also not allowed an earned run in each of his last three starts, totaling 23 innings. The only other Dodger pitcher besides Kershaw in the last 10 years to have three straight starts without giving up an earned run was Chad Billingsley, who did so last July.
Kershaw's career ERA against the Giants, in 10 games (nine starts), is 1.41. As Joe Block of KABC noted, that is the lowest mark against the Giants in MLB history.
Navarro's home run was just the second home run hit into McCovey Cove by a Dodger, joining fellow switch-hitting catcher Todd Hundley, who did so on June 30, 2000. There have been just 39 games since moving to Los Angeles that the Dodgers have won 1-0 with the only run coming via home run. Navarro has accounted for the only run via long ball twice this season, also doing so against Houston on June 19. The only other L.A. Dodger to hit more than one such home run in a season was Gary Sheffield, who did so three times in 2001.
Kershaw was removed for a pinch hitter in the top of the ninth after throwing 111 pitches, even though all Trent Oeltjen was asked to do was sacrifice. Javy Guerra closed out the win with a perfect ninth inning, for his sixth save.
The Dodgers are off tomorrow, then open a nine-game homestand Friday against the Nationals.
WP - Clayton Kershaw (11-4): 8 IP, 3 hits, 1 walk, 12 strikeouts
LP - Tim Lincecum (8-8): 7+ IP, 5 hits, 1 run, 4 walks, 7 strikeouts
Sv - Javy Guerra (6): 1 IP, 1 strikeout
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Nice timing, Frank’s attourney just finished, Lauria coming back in to close the game for MLB.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
BillShaikin Bill Shaikin
Judge Gross says Dodgers are a franchise, MLB does have economic standing to propose loan.
Lauria: “There is absolutely no tension or animosity between MLB and the LAD. We are joined at the hip. It’s impossible.”
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
BillShaikin
Lauria on McCourt not having to repay $4.75m to Highbridge if MLB loan selected: “Everybody understands there’s a conflict of interest.”
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
BillShaikin
Lauria on McCourt using Montana property as collateral: “He may have lost the asset if he could not get the team to pick up the tab.”
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
Boom
BillShaikin Bill Shaikin
Lauria: Not fair to make Dodgers pay for $14m more for a loan so McCourt can get $5.25m for himself.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
BillShaikin Bill Shaikin
Judge Gross cites examples of MLB “not being forthcoming” to Dodgers, including withholding of national revenue sharing
Whoops
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
He’s totally gonna let McCourt take the Highbridge loan.
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by Humma Kavula on Jul 20, 2011 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions
well Frank has been the low road for so long, it is a wonder he even found the highbridge
/really bad
by Hollywood Joe on Jul 20, 2011 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
HiYo!!
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 20, 2011 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Dan Lauria?
Wondered what he was up to since Wonder Years.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Thomas Lauria, distance cousin of Hugh.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
L-A-U-R-I-A Lauria!
"It takes a special fan to root for a last place moribund bankrupt franchise."
by Little Blue Bicycle on Jul 20, 2011 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Marty I believe would love this title from Jon Weisman
Forget it, Jake: It’s Kershawtown http://es.pn/qz1LcP #dodgers
Dioner Navarro - Hero AGAIN
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
hehe that would be cool with me, except he's a FA at season's end.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Arb eligible right?
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
I thought he was this past off-season?
and re-signed to one year deal…
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Six saves for Javy
I wonder if he could be trade bait for a young hitter or two if we combine Javy with Kuroda
by The Dude Abides on Jul 20, 2011 3:29 PM PDT reply actions
Dioner Navarro - Hero Again
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
“Kershaw is better than really good.”
"They say The Jet's lost a step or two... but I wouldn't be surprised to see some fireworks here."
tribute
to Javy Guerra, and Clayton Kershaw
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 20, 2011 3:30 PM PDT reply actions
Last night
HJ: Ugh, the Dodgers are terrible
Mrs HJ: What, I thought they were doing good?
HJ: Why’d you think that…they stink
Mrs HJ: But they had 3 guys in the all-star game and you told me that Kemp and Kershaw were great. You told me Kemp is a beautiful man and if we had a daughter you’d want her to marry Kershaw…
HJ: Yeah, but everyone else sucks
Mrs HJ: even that old guy with the beard
HJ: He’s too hurt to suck
today:
HJ: I am leaving for work early this AM, want to get a jump on the day, going to watch some of the Dodger game at lunch
Mrs HJ: Kershaw must be pitching
I see Mrs. HJ is wise.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
she’s a keeper
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 20, 2011 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions
awesome stuff
Ray Guilfoyle
www.faketeams.com
www.minorleagueball.com
www.mlbdailydish.com
by Ray Guilfoyle on Jul 20, 2011 6:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Great victories in 2011
In a season of complete suckiness, it still astounds how many cool games we have won. Help me out
1. Opening Day 1st Kershaw win over Lincecum
2. TGJ game saving catch
3. Russell Mitchell game tieing home run converted to victory
4. Today
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
That was the day you just laughed and wondered how Frank would make the June 30 payroll, but that he definitely would meet it.
Good call.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 20, 2011 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions
I was there too, with my dad, for the first time since I was a pre-teen
by Josie Becker on Jul 20, 2011 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions
why’d you go all the way to 10 when you know we’ve only won 4 games.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
by G.Scott on Jul 20, 2011 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Matt Kemp
having two game winning HR
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 20, 2011 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I need details Tommy
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
only details I can remember
Both were day games. One was against the Cards, hit off of Ryan Franklin. The other was against the Braves, I believe it was a game Kershaw pitched, a throwback day. I don’t remember what Brave pitcher he hit it off of
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 20, 2011 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Down 2-1 on a Sunday against Franklin. Scully: “They pitched to the one man who could beat them, and he did.”
Mattingly left Kershaw in for the 9th inning on a throwback day against the Braves four days later, and Atlanta tied it in the 9th. Kemp hit a two-run shot in the 12th (?) for a 5-3 win.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 20, 2011 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions
i remember this game
and i remember Vin Scully saying that!
"They say The Jet's lost a step or two... but I wouldn't be surprised to see some fireworks here."
anytime Matt Kemp kicks someones ass while everyone else piles on
anytime Dee Gordon steals home
but yeah, mostly it
by Hollywood Joe on Jul 20, 2011 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions
loved watching that game in person
my dad the angels fan… not so much
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
there was the game in Cin(?) where we were down like 10-3 and won.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
that popped in my head too
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
YES!
that one, two HR for Kemp, including a grand slam!
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 20, 2011 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions
That pretty much covers it.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
its really good
and the low lights too
by Hollywood Joe on Jul 20, 2011 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions
15 run shutout against the Twins.
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by Humma Kavula on Jul 20, 2011 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Yep!
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by Humma Kavula on Jul 20, 2011 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions
TGJ game-saving catch with 2 outs in the 9th earlier this year…a Broxton save!
by Eric Stephen on Jul 20, 2011 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions
the walk off win against the Padres
after being no-hit until the 9th
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
Dioner has the lone RBI in three 1-0 wins this year.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 20, 2011 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions
He has the right stuff
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
The Dodgers have four 1-0 wins this year.
The other was Friday before the break against the Padres…Furcal RBI single in the 8th
by Eric Stephen on Jul 20, 2011 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions
is he not getting a signing bonus? That’s less annually than Barajas signed for.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
makes sense now.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
isn't 3.33 more than 3.25?
or am I missing something?
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
finally got to see the Navarro HR
what a bomb!
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 20, 2011 3:32 PM PDT reply actions
His new nickman is Splash Mountain
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
accepted
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 20, 2011 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Donnie didn’t put Kershaw out there in the 9th because they’re out of the race and no reason to risk anything.
I appreciate the honesty.
ill be there!
got some great seats.. infield reserve section 1 row a. thanks stub hub.
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jul 20, 2011 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions
If I think of it asHiroki’s last game as a dodger, I might cry…
by Hollywood Joe on Jul 20, 2011 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions
he could be back next year
i would hope he is, I love watching Hiro pitch
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 20, 2011 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Maddz and I are going the 22nd as well.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
my free ticket passes are blacked out on Friday-Saturday : (
by Josie Becker on Jul 20, 2011 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions
delias man says there are some good deals to be had for that game.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
You can go with Craig, tell HJ to get his own ticket:)
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
totally
I got the new HJ method
But the very cheapest tickets on stubhub for the level you want to sit
right before stubhub shuts down, spy a big block of seats in a place you’d like to sit
enter that level and walk to those vacant seats
rinse repeat
by Hollywood Joe on Jul 20, 2011 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Technically
he was another start the next week at home vs Colorado, but only a few days before the deadline. So there could be two Hiroki Kuroda Appreciation Nights.
Bringing the heat*
BillShaikin Bill Shaikin
Lauria: Not fair to make Dodgers pay for $14m more for a loan so McCourt can get $5.25m for himself.
*baseball analogy for Humma
"It takes a special fan to root for a last place moribund bankrupt franchise."
by Little Blue Bicycle on Jul 20, 2011 3:36 PM PDT reply actions
Is there any doubt
that Kershaw is far superior to Lincecum?
What a game he pitched! I would have let him finish it, but glad Guerra was able to close it out.
Nothing is ever easy.
yes
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Home runs surrendered to Dioner Navarro by Kershaw: 0
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jul 20, 2011 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t even need to compare them
I am secure that our guy is great
by Hollywood Joe on Jul 20, 2011 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Right
Fuck their guy. What does it matter? They’re both great.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
they really are
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 20, 2011 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions
People can shut up now about passing up Lincecum. Maybe he would’ve helped us win a WS in 2008 or 09, but CK has a brighter future.
I would take a ws over a brighter future
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jul 20, 2011 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I've never complained about passing up Lincecum
But I firmly believe we win a WS in 08 with Lincecum instead of Kershaw (assuming the Manny deal still happened)
Going forward, I’d rather have CK
by Michael White on Jul 20, 2011 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Manny would have seen the writing on the wall earlier, and forgot which knee was hurt earlier :)
by Eric Stephen on Jul 20, 2011 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Also, fuck you, Ruiz.
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by Humma Kavula on Jul 20, 2011 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions
they're both terrific
but right now going forward, I am happier to have Kershaw that’s for sure. (Just given age difference, year started, etc.)
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
also, lincecum still has the wacky delivery hanging over him
He’s beaten the monkey, but the longevity questionmarks will linger forever IMO
by Riffraffselbow on Jul 20, 2011 3:49 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
forever?
even after he has pitched 10+ years? Even after retiring?
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
fine
For at least a few more years.
by Riffraffselbow on Jul 20, 2011 3:53 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
positives, positives
Its still theoretically possible CK could win 20. He’d have to win 9 of approximately 12-13, but stranger things have happened.
by Riffraffselbow on Jul 20, 2011 3:37 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
If he one 20 on a team this bad, that would be some serious Cy Young contention.
by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Jul 20, 2011 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Where is Kershaw going to finish in Cy Young voting?
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Not first because goddamnit halladay
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
You mean wiltering Doc
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
is that all it was? no injury?
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
yup
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 20, 2011 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Kershaw: 11-4 2.72 ERA .209 BAA 1.02 WHIP
Halladay: 11-4 2.57 ERA .245 BAA 1.05 WHIP
I think Kershaw has an extremely strong case for Cy Young
Nothing is ever easy.
by drulenarendes on Jul 20, 2011 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Except his numbers are completely inferior to Halladay who also pitches in the NL (for the best team in the NL too)
by Michael White on Jul 20, 2011 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I realize you're talking about fip and xfip and such
but hallway is walking less people but allowing a lot more hits than kershaw. That kind of thing doesn’t matter in fip or xfip unfortunately
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
No, I was talking about the ERA he posted above
by Michael White on Jul 20, 2011 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions
It's only 0.15 at this point. That's a bad outing from halladay away from being right there with kerahaw
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
even with lee hamels and halladay?
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Kudos on the Title
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
I almost used “Guns of Navarro” earlier this season, but passed it up. Couldn’t do it this time; never know when another opportunity will come. :)
by Eric Stephen on Jul 20, 2011 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions
ive already decided captain K wrks better
Gets the right initials and everything.
by Riffraffselbow on Jul 20, 2011 3:47 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Now I’m worried that Kemp will become Mister M.
"It takes a special fan to root for a last place moribund bankrupt franchise."
by Little Blue Bicycle on Jul 20, 2011 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Bud - not liking his dirty laundry aired (Delias will like this)
BillShaikin
Judge Gross cites examples of MLB “not being forthcoming” to Dodgers, including withholding of national revenue sharing
seems not to bode well
fo MLB funding
What me worry?
by MammothDodger on Jul 20, 2011 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions
no one should expect baseball to be on a white horse, it is only frank’s black hat that makes MLB the good guys
by Hollywood Joe on Jul 20, 2011 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions
great pull
both repulsive greedy bullies
by Hollywood Joe on Jul 20, 2011 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Franks's more E.B. Farnum
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
BillShaikin Bill Shaikin
Lauria scoffs at idea that MLB suddenly flipped on Dodgers bet. 5/10 and 2/11. “Were there additional events that might be relevant?”
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
Different pitchers, and Kershaw is doing at 23 what Santana didn’t do until 26/27.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
In Santana’s first five full years as a starter he had a 157 ERA+
Kershaw was at 125 coming into today.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jul 20, 2011 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions
apples to oranges, man. You can’t (in my mind) use a stat that is based on a league in a year to determine ranking when the league and years are different. 2002-2006 AL is a whole lot different than 2008-2011 NL.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
Okay, but is it fair to say that Santana put up very similar numbers (but a better walk rate) in a league that didn’t feature All Star Scott Rolen.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jul 20, 2011 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions
ERA+ is normalized for park and league.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 20, 2011 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Still hard to argue the offensive differences between those years.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
So you’re on the Santana side?
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jul 20, 2011 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Right. Park and league, but not year.
According to ERA+, Pedro Martinez had the best year any pitcher has ever had, but I have to think that has as much to do with timing as anything else. Compare Pedro’s best years to other great years and I really don’t know how you measure who’s better, pitch-for-pitch.
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Jul 20, 2011 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Compare fip xfip and tera
Not era+
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Doesn’t account for incredibly different environments.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jul 20, 2011 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Fangraphs WAR?
While FIP based, that should adjust for competition
by Michael White on Jul 20, 2011 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Sure.
Kershaw is on pace for about six WAR.
Johan at his best was about 7.5.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jul 20, 2011 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions
That doesn't account for today
im sure that’ll bump him up to around 4.3-4.5. I’d guess he ends up around 6.5 by the end of the year, which would have been I believe santana ls 3rd best season or so?
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
What it does account for is ERA
are we at the point still where we go off a stat that only deals with earned runs? Or is it pretty much to show the difference in then to now? I’m ok with the last part, but it still doesn’t show nearly the whole story. Santana is better though in that time frame
So far
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
So if MLB is still making its closing argument
Why is Gross speaking as well?
TBLA's most forgettable intermittent commenter.
Because Bankruptcy Court isn’t as monologue driven as movies would lead us to believe?
by Eric Stephen on Jul 20, 2011 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Sorry
I know I’m in the minority here as not having a law degree.
TBLA's most forgettable intermittent commenter.
haw
I certainly dont mind it..
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jul 20, 2011 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions
I was wondering myself, all my court proceeding are colored by movies and tv. I know they are BS but I have no idea what parts are BS.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
You know that part where a guy gets up and yells, “You’re out of order! He’s out of order! THE WHOLE DAMN SYSTEM’S OUT OF ORDER!!”
….well, that’s BS.
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Jul 20, 2011 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Ha ha, but without it, how does Paul win an Oscar?
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
Newman didn’t win for The Verdict. He won for The Color of Money.
And that’s Pacino, and he didn’t win for …And Justice for All, he won for Scent of a Woman.
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by Humma Kavula on Jul 20, 2011 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Loved Scent of a Woman
“You don’t know what out of order is, Mr. Trask. I’d show you but I’m too old, I’m too tired, I’m too fuckin blind.”
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 20, 2011 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions
My favorite video store banner:
Scent of a Woman – Inside!
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
by mleadman on Jul 20, 2011 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I havent watched this yet
http://movies.netflix.com/Movie/The_Staircase_Disc_1/70035094?trkid=496624
but an old coworker of mine said it gave him panic attacks cuz it reminded him of working on a trial
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jul 20, 2011 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Would this movie be called
“Anatomy of an Owner”?
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
In a world where a greedy businessman can overextended himself through unfavorable loan parameters… one man is all that stands between him and the law…
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by Humma Kavula on Jul 20, 2011 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Shame this was a not a national game.
1. Kershaw game score of 87
2. Kershaw 12 K’s
3. Navarro deciding home run, is a splash shot not done since the last switch hitting catcher who was universally hated did it.
4. Breaks the six game losing streak to the Giants
5. Most importantly starts a 13 game winning streak.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
the dodgers finally figured out
How to clone kershaw 12 times!?!?
by Riffraffselbow on Jul 20, 2011 3:56 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm sorry, that was a sikky comment.
You only need to clone him 4 times, 3 if you like Rubby.
by Riffraffselbow on Jul 20, 2011 3:57 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
this will get some ESPN and MLB NETWORK love due to it being the Giants and Timmy
also since it is done early, highlights will run during east coast prime time – unlike usual west coast highlights
by Hollywood Joe on Jul 20, 2011 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions
WAIT!
STOP THE FUCKING PRESSES
are you telling me a TV channel…cares about it’s ratings? Moreso than content?
by Josie Becker on Jul 20, 2011 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions
strange but true, east coast bias is nothing more than pandering to population density and fanbase intensity
by Hollywood Joe on Jul 20, 2011 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions
damn. And here I thought the Yankees were objectively the best team every year. And that the South was the only place true college football and baseball were played. I was sure of it.
by Josie Becker on Jul 20, 2011 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm open to interpretation on this one
BillShaikin Bill Shaikin
Judge Gross: “Listening to the debtors, I have been feeling a little like chopped liver up here.”
"It takes a special fan to root for a last place moribund bankrupt franchise."
by Little Blue Bicycle on Jul 20, 2011 3:54 PM PDT reply actions
Guessing
he may think the Dodgers are not giving the Court credit for recognizing some flaws and also that no matter what, nothing will happen with the Dodgers without his approval.
Strange comment
BillShaikin Bill Shaikin
Judge Gross: “Listening to the debtors, I have been feeling a little like chopped liver up here.”
Is Kid K really that far off?
Halladay has the better control numbers. But both aren’t THAT far off.
by Julio Nievas on Jul 20, 2011 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Depends on how much water Doc drinks the rest of the way.
or maybe, just maybe, Doc could be a robot.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 20, 2011 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions
It all comes back to Al Pacino and Humma via Bill Shaikin
Lauria: “if my client is the devil, I am the devil’s advocate.”
Lauria: “they’ve already done the deal with the devil. They’re part of MLB. They’re the devil’s spawn.”
Weird
BillShaikin Bill Shaikin
Lauria: “if my client is the devil, I am the devil’s advocate.”
Lauria: “they’ve already done the deal with the devil. They’re part of MLB. They’re the devil’s spawn.”
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
this is what happens when analogies are let loose
by Hollywood Joe on Jul 20, 2011 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Explains interleague play and the DH, though.
"It takes a special fan to root for a last place moribund bankrupt franchise."
by Little Blue Bicycle on Jul 20, 2011 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I haven’t done a lick of work today between the game and trial.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
I have – but it has all been phone time
by Hollywood Joe on Jul 20, 2011 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions
This is the most convincing argument about the TV rights.
BillShaikin Bill Shaikin
Lauria on Dodgers’ media rights: “When those are monetized, what’s left? How are they going to pay players in the future?”
1 minute ago
TBLA's most forgettable intermittent commenter.
True
but since that argument is set for August, it is premature (aside from the fact the Dodgers loan is predicated on selling those rights soon)
And actually that is the not real reason
the real reason is that the last time the Dodgers were for sale, the media rights were locked up for 10 years. If they get locked up again, the sales price takes a big hit.
True Blue LA
Mentioned on Dodger Talk! Suchon talked about the Prospect Rankings by Brandon, saying we don’t have much at catcher and 1st.
by silverwidow on Jul 20, 2011 4:08 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
Brandon "Big Time" Lennox
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 20, 2011 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions
I got to talk to Josh quite a bit before one of the games. Seemed like a great guy who obviously reads TBLA but when he asked me a question about his show, I had to be honest and tell him I don’t listen. I felt bad. I didn’t realize until I talked to him that his goal is PBP major league announcer.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
I like him and Block
much better than Collins and Lyons
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 20, 2011 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions
uncomfortable moment
I like Josh fine, it is the callers I don’t want to be associated with so I rarely listen
by Hollywood Joe on Jul 20, 2011 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions
That is how I feel about TBLA, but Phil says I have to show up because Eric sucks at moderating, David is always on vacation, and Chad well, I don’t think Chad has being a moderator in his contract, that is probably beneath him, he’s so busy writing and all. .
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
classic
the rest of us really do feel that way sometimes…but usually someone sticks around, kicks a little ass, the problems cleans itself up
by Hollywood Joe on Jul 20, 2011 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I prefer Dodger Talk
to most of the sports talk stuff on 710AM and 570AM. Atleast Dodger Talk is talking about the Dodgers and sometimes the hosts talk without the callers is pretty good. I like Roger Lodge’s sports talk show in the morning because he actually talks about a local baseball team (be it the Angels). If the Dodgers had something like that I’d likely give it a listen. I just can’t stand listening to the likes of Collen Cowherd and his endless talk about college football 13 months of the year.
I listen just about after every game…except for Sunday when for some reason the online audio never works.
Like Joe and Josh together, even if I disagree sometimes with Joe especially. But they are worth listening to.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 20, 2011 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions
He was one of those under consideration for the “away” games with Lyons. I think they tried him out (along with 5 others) for a few games, and everyone on DT liked Suchon the best. I did, and I’d never heard Dodger Talk, it was the first I’d heard of him. He should have got the job. (Unless I’m confusing him with his former partner who’s now in Seattle or somewhere?)
So Cool
brandon does a GREAT job and deserves the accolades
What me worry?
by MammothDodger on Jul 20, 2011 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions
if its blnot weird to ask...
Could you/somebody friend me on “the Facebook” so I could get that? I don’t exactly use facebook much, so I don’t have any friends with it. Name: Adam Berman
by Riffraffselbow on Jul 20, 2011 4:16 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Adam B. No, that’s too obvious. A. Berman.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 20, 2011 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
YES!
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 20, 2011 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions
do y’all really expect me to swallow that tripe?
by Josie Becker on Jul 20, 2011 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Now, courtesy of the Meat Council, here’s some delicious tripe!
by Eric Stephen on Jul 20, 2011 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions
tripas!
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
I ate at a triperia in florence
not my favorite meal
by Hollywood Joe on Jul 20, 2011 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions
I love menudo
so I’m a tripe fan
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
none
Ill add one if I can. Hold on.
by Riffraffselbow on Jul 20, 2011 4:19 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
my profile is under the username riffraffselbow
If that helps somehow, and you haven’t already left.
by Riffraffselbow on Jul 20, 2011 4:26 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
here, this like should work
http://www.facebook.com/riffraffselbow
shows how little I know about facebook.
by Riffraffselbow on Jul 20, 2011 4:28 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
my bro always plays that with his wife
i have no smart phone, otherwise I think I could smoke them
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 20, 2011 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ve never tried to smoke a phone. Can you get high?
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
by mleadman on Jul 20, 2011 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
ask
Lincecum
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 20, 2011 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions
funny thing is
I was about to say that was not how I meant or worded it, then I realized I did.
I lost to the best, I feel no shame
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 20, 2011 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions
BillShaikin Bill Shaikin
Gross: “If I deny the (dodgers) motion (for their loan), there’s no financing. … How does that get done?”
Lauria: We’re prepared to offer. We’re prepared to fund. We’re subject to the court’s discretion.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
EricFisherSBJ Eric Fisher
Lauria: MLB, #Dodgers “worse than married….(Pause) Wait, that may not sound good on the record.”
Lauria: claim of MLB animus toward #Dodgers a “strawman that just isn’t reality.”
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
turntable.fm
http://turntable.fm/tbla in case anyone wants to dj some music for a little bit… ill be here for 5 or so min if anyone stops by….
It’s 7:13 there, are they really going to finish tonight? Aty what point will Gross rule?
"It takes a special fan to root for a last place moribund bankrupt franchise."
by Little Blue Bicycle on Jul 20, 2011 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes they have
Why is it taking forever?
by Julio Nievas on Jul 20, 2011 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions
EricFisherSBJ Eric Fisher
And for those scoring at home, we began ‘closing’ arguments two hours ago. #Dodgers.
58 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
What me worry?
by MammothDodger on Jul 20, 2011 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow!
I thought closing arguments, you know, didn’t take long…
by Julio Nievas on Jul 20, 2011 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions
well for some reason
my twitter time stamps everything an hour off, even though I have checked my setting mutiple times so this was jsut a couple min ago not an hour ago
What me worry?
by MammothDodger on Jul 20, 2011 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions
From Tony Jackson
A Dodgers position player who shall go nameless, as we entered clubhouse after game: `Well, that change of hitting coaches worked out well.’
though i know he's not well liked here
Larry Bowa blasted the move on MLB tonight. Said Pentland was “one of the best in the business” and was made “a scapegoat”
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 20, 2011 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions
silk purse / sows ear
chicken salad / chicken shit
major league hitter / dodgers roster
by Hollywood Joe on Jul 20, 2011 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions
He's right about that.
In other news, I wish Larry Bowa had been their hitting coach. So he was the one fired.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
But then he'd probably promptly get a TV analysis gig and we'd have to listen to...
OH SHIT!
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
I like it in all its forms – there is an italian bacon made with the pigs cheek that is fantastic
by Hollywood Joe on Jul 20, 2011 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Your typical London breakfast. Ate this for 3 straight days. Great
by Julio Nievas on Jul 20, 2011 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
typical if you’re eating at their Denny’s, but I’m hard pressed to believe most families don’t just eat cereal
by Josie Becker on Jul 20, 2011 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions
what's that tomatoe doing there?
and where’s the hash browns?
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
they do look like potato chips, however
by Josie Becker on Jul 20, 2011 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Fried bread, not hash browns.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jul 20, 2011 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions
then the french can take their breakfast and shove it
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
the english too!
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Is that
Dan Quayle’s version of tomato you are referencing there?
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
yeah, that’s not gas inducing or anything
no wonder no one brushes their teeth in england, everyone is farting so much that it is impossible to smell bad breath
by Hollywood Joe on Jul 20, 2011 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Because pancakes, two eggs, bacon, and hash browns is a regular super digestible breakfast
by Josie Becker on Jul 20, 2011 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Oi, I was the one what said they just eat cereal like we do, and that Julio ate a tourist breakfast the entire time : )
by Josie Becker on Jul 20, 2011 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions
The italians don’t eat cereal and don’t beans either
by Hollywood Joe on Jul 20, 2011 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions
exactly, you can’t even make a sight joke about the brits around here
by Hollywood Joe on Jul 20, 2011 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions
My cousin lived in Austrailia for few years
he was not a fan of them.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 20, 2011 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I actually new an Aussie one, no we can’t make fun of them either.
The Greeks?
by Josie Becker on Jul 20, 2011 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Persians.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
Let’s make fun of white people, it is so easy.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
I’m good with this.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
I hear Aussie and New Zealand women love the American flat accent. Southern Californians and some midwesterners rejoice!
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
Are you serious?!
Maybe that’s why that chick from New Zealand digged me. Fuck yeah.
by Julio Nievas on Jul 20, 2011 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Sure wasn’t your good looks
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
We took some pics together (blondie from my trip to Europe on my Facebook)
Her accent made me melt. I could listen to her talk allllll day.
by Julio Nievas on Jul 20, 2011 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions
skirts with accents
are sexy
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 20, 2011 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Skirts with accents who think your American speak is sexy are just about the greatest thing on earth.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
Skirtswith accentswho think your American speak isare sexy are just about the greatest thing on earth.
ftfy
by Hollywood Joe on Jul 20, 2011 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions
i need to go
to one of those countries
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 20, 2011 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Yep. Apparently it’s the same reaction us American males have to put up with everytime an Aussie man says anything around our American women.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
Payback is good
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
Yeah, I think if I had known this I would have gotten my undergrad at Auckland U.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
I know for a fact I’d have visited them at least once. No wonder my friend had such a smile when he came back.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
Not that I’m complaining about my current situation :)
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
I have it on good authority the Aussies do the dishes whenever they are fed breakfast
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
well fuck this shit, I’m out.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
by G.Scott on Jul 20, 2011 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
who'd like a banger in the mouth?
Oh, I’m sorry, you just call it a sausage in the mouth.
by Riffraffselbow on Jul 20, 2011 4:18 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 3 recs
The chicken breakfast sausage looks pretty sweet.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 20, 2011 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Ron Swanson, for the french kissing win
by Josie Becker on Jul 20, 2011 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
BillShaikin Bill Shaikin
Closing over. US Trustee attorney now speaking.
"It takes a special fan to root for a last place moribund bankrupt franchise."
by Little Blue Bicycle on Jul 20, 2011 4:17 PM PDT reply actions
wonder how much sway he has
his brief (might be a her) was very pro-mlb financing
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jul 20, 2011 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow
BillShaikin Bill Shaikin
US Trustee atty likens Dodgers to “miscreant 13-year-old” who thinks everything will be OK with an apology
"It takes a special fan to root for a last place moribund bankrupt franchise."
by Little Blue Bicycle on Jul 20, 2011 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow, part 2
BillShaikin Bill Shaikin
US Trustee atty says “I would have had a fit” had I known about $5.25m fee right away
"It takes a special fan to root for a last place moribund bankrupt franchise."
by Little Blue Bicycle on Jul 20, 2011 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Why would he go there
EricFisherSBJ Eric Fisher
US trustee attorney re: Highbridge fees: “This has to be addressed. You have to wonder if this whole case is tainted.” #Dodgers
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
BillShaikin Bill Shaikin
US trustee atty: “I feel like I’ve been lied to .. A half-truth is as good as a while lie.” Fee amount withheld, not promptly disclosed.

"It takes a special fan to root for a last place moribund bankrupt franchise."
by Little Blue Bicycle on Jul 20, 2011 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I love this image
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
same here
Uncle Sam is GON DO SOM BOUT DIS!!!
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 20, 2011 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions
EricFisherSBJ Eric Fisher
Lawyer for Highbridge says US Trustee claims re fees “offensive,” says there was no attempt of any kind to hide the fees. #Dodgers
What me worry?
by MammothDodger on Jul 20, 2011 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions
The United States Trustee Program is a component of the Department of Justice responsible for overseeing the administration of bankruptcy cases and private trustees under 28 U.S.C. §586 and 11 U.S.C. §101, et seq.
It consists of 21 regional U.S. Trustee Offices nationwide and an Executive Office for U.S. Trustees (EOUST) in Washington, DC.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
more information if you're interested in the badassocity of the US Trustee.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Trustee_Program
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
I’m sending this guy some chocolates
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
like he doesn’t matter, or that it’s already been decided?
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
I WAS TALKING TO HIM
Yeah, that’s what I figured too. I’m no lawyer, but it seems obvious what should happen. It’s because of this that I’m sure the Dodgers loan will be selected.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
if the US Trustee is only there to ensure laws are followed, he has no real sway outside of suggesting the case is valid or not, no? He carries no decision making power, so what is he? Political weight?
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
In other bankruptcies
Trustee can be appointed to oversee case, even in the Texas Ranger matter, Selig had to work with Trustee to sell team.
Who in fact
are the most secured unsecured creditors in history. The players including the ones with deferred contracts are basically already secured by MLB. That leaves very little for them to worry about.
boom
shacka lacka
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 20, 2011 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions
BillShaikin Bill Shaikin
If you’re scoring at home, MLB, Fox and US Trustee all oppose Dodgers’ motion for Highbridge loan arranged by McCourt
"It takes a special fan to root for a last place moribund bankrupt franchise."
by Little Blue Bicycle on Jul 20, 2011 4:26 PM PDT reply actions
Fox only owes us $75m more for the next two years. Crap.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
News to no one but me. The TV deal is only going to net us $37.5mil per season?
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
The current Fox TV deal was previously reported in the offseason as $35m in 2011, $37m in 2012, and $39m in 2013.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 20, 2011 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions
What was the numbers on the deal that Frank wanted MLB to approve?
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
$1.7B over 17 IIRC
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
which included reworking the next two years IIRC
by Eric Stephen on Jul 20, 2011 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Also
KCAL pays about 12-13M for their games so the total local rights are about $50M through 2013 (KCAL deal ends then too). I will assume a new deal will put all games on cable.
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
KCAL! FTMFW!
by robotmadeofnails on Jul 20, 2011 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Don't worry
You’ll be rolling in dough by then and ponying up for cable/satellite/whatever.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
only roadblock is
I keep hearing the bk court gives the party filing bk a ton of deference when it comes to making decisions for themselves..
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jul 20, 2011 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Cure. Found.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
Bill Laimbeer dies tonight
"It takes a special fan to root for a last place moribund bankrupt franchise."
by Little Blue Bicycle on Jul 20, 2011 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions
yes please to the 1980s version
What me worry?
by MammothDodger on Jul 20, 2011 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Starting a new basketball league
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
and he’s going to come out of retirement
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
Kevin Malone was not invited
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
Karl?
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
both of them, in fact all Malones are not invited.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
Except
Sam Malone, he can play.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
He bought Ford
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
joining Pistons ownership group is my guess.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 20, 2011 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Not Dodger ownership?
;-)
Wonder if that’s why Molly Knight was sent to detroit this week. couldn’t figure out any other reason.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Maybe not NBA ownership
Magic’s next tweet:
Look forward to help putting people back to work in my home state.
Sounds like just another Magic Johnson business venture. Probably will be successful.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 20, 2011 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions
BillShaikin Bill Shaikin
McCourt lawyer Bennett back up. “Interdependence isn’t fostered by making 5-yr commitments and breaching them in year 2”
Not sure what he’s referring to here
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
Blue Co. wasn't made in a day
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
this hearing is fucking long
almost 8:00 over there.
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jul 20, 2011 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions
im sure theyre just happy they have jobs
see: sf court bloodletting of today
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jul 20, 2011 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Firing Paul DePodesta:)
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
by meercatjohn on Jul 20, 2011 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Easy, easy rec
How is it that I just made it green now?
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Tigers starting pitcher today
named Duane Below
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 20, 2011 4:41 PM PDT reply actions
It’s the funniest if you say it in the Tracy Morgan “I’m Brian Fellow!” voice.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 20, 2011 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
“That bird is a liar!”
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 20, 2011 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions
the beat goes on
EricFisherSBJ Eric Fisher
Gross: No ruling tonight on #Dodgers. Need to review material.
What me worry?
Latest Shaikin
Judge Gross: Should I take a break and rule tonight or rule at a later time?
Judge: I will not rule tonight.
Judge: “To me, this is about dollars and cents. This is not a control issue.” Bad news for Mccourt
In Bugs Bunny voice: "Would you like me to rule now or wait til we get home?"
“Oh no you don’t, not this time! Wait til we get home!”
“Okay!”
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Padres
kicking the ever-living shit out of the Marlins. 10-0 in the 2nd inning. Have the bases loaded with 1 out
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 20, 2011 5:02 PM PDT reply actions
now
11-0
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 20, 2011 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Mike Quade doesn’t really understand the whole “rotating Earth” thing
We’ve got to stop. Ball’s in the sun, we’ve got to communicate. Cassie thought he had that all the way. I look back at this whole game to that play. The sun’s been in the same damn spot for however long Wrigley Field’s been here.
@andrewngrant
I hate him
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Speaking of dumb
This is from the Chronicle Live postgame show, courtesy of Grant Brisbee of the McCovey Chronicles:

guess they don't understand true definition of "mediocrity"
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
From the Minneapolis paper
@LaVelleNeal LaVelle E. Neal III
Red Sox, Dodgers, Cardinals and Blue Jays have scouts watching Slowey give up home runs tonight
"It takes a special fan to root for a last place moribund bankrupt franchise."
by Little Blue Bicycle on Jul 20, 2011 5:40 PM PDT reply actions
I’d be totally for some Slowey
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jul 20, 2011 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Me too. Guess it looks like we’re serious about trading Kuroda. If we trade him we need someone to take his spot and limit De La Rosa’s innigs’s. This also goes with Ned’s plan about making a move for someone who is under team control beyond this year. Hopefully we but low on a couple of other players as well.
by dodgers4life on Jul 20, 2011 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Just painting a little backstory
Slowey is making $2.7 million this year, and has tow more years of arbitration eligibility.
I have no problem with trying to acquire someone like this (depending on the cost of course, which is the case in all deals).
by Eric Stephen on Jul 20, 2011 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Since the Twins booted him out of the rotation while Nick Blackburn exists, he’s a great buy low guy.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jul 20, 2011 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions
that makes some sense
I wasl a little surprised, but even more so that Twins still consider themselves buyers, but then noticed they’re only 5.5 out so I guess still contending.
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They were looking for middle relief the other day, a sixth-seventh inning guy. Kuo? Hawk? Guerrier? I’d do that in a heartbeat.
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by Little Blue Bicycle on Jul 20, 2011 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions
The problem with Slowey
is who Ned would give up to get him, and why would we be dealing for more pitching. If we were to give up Hawk or Mac for him, then fine. But I could easily see Ned giving up one or two of our best AA hitters (Erickson, Silverio) to get him, in addition to giving up Hawk or Mac.
by The Dude Abides on Jul 20, 2011 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Let’s hope they just want their boy Guerrier back.
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by Little Blue Bicycle on Jul 20, 2011 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I wouldn’t mind that too much. We would still have Robinson and Sands as OF’ers and could get a better catcher than Erickson if we were to trade Kuroda.
by dodgers4life on Jul 20, 2011 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Hopefully, given how dry the catching prospects look in Dodger system right now
Ned won’t trade another catching prospect (i.e., Griff) but who knows with him. I seriously doubt MacDougal would fetch a younger pitcher under control next year. Maybe Hawk, but may have to throw in a prospect. Just hope it’s a middling one.
Or it could be for Kuroda.
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I don't see the Twins coughing up the dough for Kuroda
I also don’t see him waiving his no-trade to go to Minny. I fear a deal of a middle reliever plus one of our good AA prospects for Slowey. And that would be stupid and Neddish.
by The Dude Abides on Jul 20, 2011 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Then Slowey into the rotation when Kuroda goes?
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by Little Blue Bicycle on Jul 20, 2011 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Probably. I don’t think Ned wants to bring up anyone in the minors until September.
by dodgers4life on Jul 20, 2011 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Ugh, but yes
Never underestimate the depth of Ned’s stupidity. Until our recent losing streak, I was fearing a deal of one or two of our better prospects in AA to Toronto to reacquire Dotel. A deal for Slowey could conceivably be worse than last season’s deal for Dotel.
by The Dude Abides on Jul 20, 2011 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t think they would trade a starter for another starter. Kuroda would have to approve of them to waive his no trade clause anyway. Kuroda can get back a much better package.
by dodgers4life on Jul 20, 2011 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions
this would be pointless
Slowey isnt good and doesnt have a history of putting up innings at the MLB level.
His only skill is not walking batters.
I’d hate to pay a guy like that 4-5 mils next year.
Just bring up Webster, save the dough for someone thats good.
Webster is doing worse than Slowey did in the bigs at AA.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jul 20, 2011 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Captain Eo to the rescue!
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
or eovaldi will work too...
It was ridiculous to give a pitch to contact reliever like Guerrier money…doing the same thing for Slowey would be just as bad if not worse.
Slowey has a better career strike out rate than Kuroda.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jul 20, 2011 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions
so lets just jump him from aa to the majors
even though he has yet to prove he can pitch above A. Makes complete sense.
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
i'm talking about next season..
I’m assuming going after a guy like Slowey would be for next season…and i dont want a guy like that, who’s proven he’s not a good MLB starter…to be in the rotation.
For me, its always go with the guy that hasnt proven he sucks..which leads me to siding with youngsters rather than guys like that.
i’d be fine with Kershaw, Rubby, Billingsley, Eo or Webster, Lilly next year…while trying to dump Lilly to the first buyer i can find.
depends on what we end up giving up for him
but as we learned right away this season, having depth in the rotation is rarely a bad thing, no matter how set you think you are.
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I think Slowey is pretty good
I just don’t want Ned trading for any major leaguers. Other teams give up their best prospects for the likes of Adrian Gonzalez or Cliff Lee. Ned gives up our best prospects for the likes of Casey Blake, and gives up our previous year best prospects for the likes of Octavio Dotel.
by The Dude Abides on Jul 20, 2011 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions
gives up lots of homers
declining k rate
great control
not an innings eater
just not seeing it…
i dont care if we deal somebody of inconsequence to get him…but i hope he’s not in the rotation next year…maybe he can be a depth guy.
But next year probably going to be bad barring a big bat (or two) signed…so i’d rather develop the youngsters than take on veteran with a low ceiling.
nice one
Godzilla
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 20, 2011 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions
even worse...since June 13
when the Dodgers give up at least one run, they are 4-19
by Eric Stephen on Jul 20, 2011 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions
but also have 8 shutouts during that span.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 20, 2011 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Go amazing pitching!
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Post hearing quotes
“This (proposed MLB loan) agreement isn’t giving us any control,” Lauria said outside court. “That’s their whole argument, that we’re sneakily getting control. All we’re trying to do is save ’em a few bucks. I guess no good deed goes unpunished.”
Bruce Bennett, an attorney for McCourt, said he could not say what way Gross might be leaning but indicated the Dodgers could work with an MLB loan so long as it included modifications. In opening arguments, Lauria told Gross the league would make concessions to satisfy the Dodgers’ concerns about whether MLB could use the loan to accelerate an ownership change.
Shaikin sums it up well here, too
Whichever way the ruling comes down, it will not mean McCourt will lose ownership of the Dodgers. Instead, the ruling sets the stage for the parties to argue the core issue in this case: Can McCourt auction the Dodgers’ cable television rights to pay off the team’s creditors and remain the owner, or can Selig get the court to enforce the league rules to which McCourt agreed, including rules that grant Selig the right to approve all television contracts and the right to strip an owner of a team upon filing for bankruptcy?
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Which is kind of like a case the NHL had
a few years ago when a team wanted to move
Now that case had a time frame on it that this one doesn’t have and the NHL does not have the exemption that MLB has but as argued in Court today, MLB does not have an exemption above the Bankruptcy Court.
though I don’t think they have updated that page in a while
by StolenMonkey86 on Jul 20, 2011 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Old friend demoted
outrighted to Reno just to watch his career die? Diamondbacks, who are only four games behind SF, called up two young relievers – Ryan Cook and Bryan Shaw – for bullpen bolstering. Can Ned outgame Kevin Towers and charge him a premium for a reliever or two from LA? Too bad they almost all have serious ?‘s. Why oh why couldn’t Broxton be healthy and effective – that’s a guy to sell at the deadline.
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He would pass through
waivers in August. Though to get anyone decent you would have to pay his salary plus wait for PTBNL.
Broxton? Not under the caveat of “healthy and effective” he wouldn’t. I’m starting to believe the predictions that he doesn’t pitch again this season may come true.
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word
i wonder if they might re-sign him for cheap in the offseason. Unlikely, as teams still know what he can do when healthy
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 20, 2011 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions
i've asked this question
we could have easily got Chris Davis, and maybe more for him.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 20, 2011 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions
or him
I actually read yesterday, the Dodgers actually drafted him back in 2006. At least according to B-ref
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 20, 2011 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions
So I popped open a boxscore this afternoon
and saw that Kershaw had 8 IP, 3 H, 1 BB, 12 K and immediately thought, with all due apologies and hat tips to Big D, “are we winning”?
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
did you see
that Dioner Navarro had the game winning Home Run off of Lincecum?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 20, 2011 6:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh yeah, I’m all caught up now. Even saw the gameday highlights. Nailbiter game, but sweet. Lincecum’s pitch to Navarro was 89, down the middle, just above the belt, and no movement and Navarro punished it. Shitty pitch though.
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into
da Cove!
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 20, 2011 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions
The 89 comes up later
but that is definitely mislocated. But Navarro jumped on it, so good going.

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Matsui
wonder if we should have gotten him for LF
caveat: I have been drinking as I think this
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 20, 2011 6:28 PM PDT reply actions
I think Gwynn is outhitting him and isn’t completely immobile.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jul 20, 2011 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions
true
but would he be hitting better not in Overstock.com coliseum?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 20, 2011 6:38 PM PDT up reply actions
DS is not hitter friendly either
88 OPS+ for Gwynn, 75 OPS+ for Godzilla.
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didn't realize he's been that bad
but like i said, drunken spitballin
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 20, 2011 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Stros
are reportedly willing to trade Pence.
I know there are those here who are fans.
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 20, 2011 6:32 PM PDT reply actions
hahahahhaahaha
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 20, 2011 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions
throw in Hector Gimenez
and you’ve got a deal
by eitherethier on Jul 20, 2011 7:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Ned said that he would buy if it meant building for next year. I doubt they trade him to us unless we swoop in with a great offer. If I were Ned I’d at least call and offer them Robinson and Eovaldi or Webster for Pence.
by dodgers4life on Jul 20, 2011 6:47 PM PDT up reply actions
This guy
is a fan. Withrow, de Jesus, and magill for him
Or is that too dodgers4life. Lol
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Really though
trayvon, withrow, and anyone they want who’s not a top 10 prospect, maybe van slyke?
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
My trade is better. I doubt we buy anyone good. We will probaly just be sellers.
by dodgers4life on Jul 20, 2011 7:06 PM PDT up reply actions
HA!
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 20, 2011 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions
They use a Neyer/James prediction formula from a book ©2004 – seven years ago. The voters and their behaviors have changes – King Felix would never have won in 2003 with the year he had last year. Time for a formula update.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
That’s ok. The formula is from James and ESPN.com’s Rob Neyer. All they have to do is ask Rob…
Oh, wait.
by StolenMonkey86 on Jul 20, 2011 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Of course Navarro
couldn’t hit his way out of a paper bag—but his hitting looks great if you compare it to his defense and control of runners from behind the plate. But I still have to appreciate him for the few big hits he has had to win a few games for this embarrassing team.
Yeah, we suck, but I have to like Kershaw for figuring out it takes a shutout to win, and win a few anyway.
control of runners from behind the plate.
Navarro as thrown out 31% of the baserunners that have tried to steal on him. The NL overall is 27%, MLB is 28%.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I actually like Navarro. And Gwynn.
Add some power at 1st, plug the holes at 2nd and 3rd, add one or two true aces to go with Kershaw, and happy days are here again. (Minus McCourt of course)
NPUT - in case you haven't noticed already
http://www.truebluela.com/2011/7/20/2285391/state-of-the-dodgers-minor-league-system-2nd-base
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What was Piazza’s rate? (not that it mattered.)
Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.
watched the highlights
love how the crowd gasped after each strikeout…
Chukwudiebere Maduabum FTW!!!!!!!
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