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First Time Look at the Nationals

Manager -Jim Riggleman

Manager - John McLaren

Manager - Old Friend Davey Johnson

Outlook:  The Nationals are only two games under .500 fueled by a June record of  17 - 10. They are treading water in July at 8 - 9.  If the Nationals can finish around .500 it will be a huge achievement considering that the large expenditures on Werth / LaRoche have basically been worthless, the huge mistake in trading Nyjer Morgan, the injury to Ryan Zimmerman, and the dismal sophomore play of Ian Desmond.  This team has a very bright future with the best position prospect in baseball getting ready to help in 2012, and the infamous Stephen Strasberg  getting ready to start pitching this Sept.  Luckily for the Dodgers this young team does it's best work at home with a 28 - 18 record compared to the 20 - 32 road record. Going forward into the 2012 unlike the Dodgers the Nat's will be set at 2nd base, SS, 3rd base, catcher, right field, and left field.  Must be nice. To bad we are going to miss the NL debut of Chien-Ming Wang who I think gets to pitch next weekend after several years of rehab.

Disabled List:  Stephen Strasburg , Ivan Rodriguez, Adam LaRoche, Chien-Ming Wang

Positions:

1st Base: Luckily for the Nat's Adam LaRoche got hurt, before he was hurt he was the WORST offensive first baseman in baseball (.172/.288/.258) in 177 at bats. The Nat's are paying him $8,000,000 for that type of production. From what I gather they can buy him out of next years $10,000,000 option for 1 Million. I wonder what they are going to do? Talk about Night and Day, Michael Morse is now the everyday 1st baseman and his TSL is (.312/.361/.553) which ranks him among the top five NL 1st baseman.  Morse is another in the extremely long line of Ex - Seattle Mariners who have gotten a chance to play everyday and flourished. Morse is not slowing down either, he has a .974 OPS in July. 

2nd Base: Danny Espinosa at this point in the season looks like a lock for the ROY award except for the fact Kimbrel is still considered a rookie.. The slugging 2nd baseman leads all rookies in home runs (17), run batted in (55), runs scored (47), and ISO (.217). Just for fun his WAR is almost double of his next ROY competitor, teammate Wilson Ramos. Freddie Freeman and Ramos might have a say in this but given that Espinosa appears to be a defensive wizard, a 2nd baseman, and hitting at the same level as Freeman, he's my choice.  Compared to his 2nd base peers hes also a top five 2nd baseman. 

Shortstop: Everything is not golden for the Nationals. The SS of the future Ian Desmond may not be the SS of the future.  The more Desmond plays the less he looks like an everyday SS. Little average, no plate discipline, no power (.226 / .268 / .312).

3rd Base:  Ryan Zimmerman entered 2011 as the best 3rd baseman in the NL, maybe the best in baseball but he's had a tough go so far this year. He missed most of the year to injury and upon his return has been lackluster. We know what he's capable of, I would not pay much attention to the stats, he'll get going. 

Catcher: Is Wilson Ramos a reason to not pay attention to AAA stats? He entered 2010 as a fairly highly touted catching prospect for the Twins (ranked #58 by BA) but had an OPS of only .625 in AAA when the Twins traded him to the Nationals for Matt Capps. A trade the Twins gravely regretted in 2011 when Mauer went down and they had no catchers to replace him as they sank to the bottom of the AL West. Ramos free of the Twins minor league system went on to post an .835 OPS over the final month. He hit the ground running in 2011 as the Nat's everyday catcher, the 23 year old is now  one of the best young catchers in baseball. Plus he just keeps getting better. His OPS in July is a robust .989. That's right. .989. On July 22nd, the numbers one and two ROY candidates are playing for the same team. 

Right Fielder:  Statistically Jayson Werth has been very bad even if he was making the minimum, factor in the mammoth contract he signed this past offseason and you can understand if some Nat fans think they got shafted. Werth has not been this bad since he broke his wrist in 2005. His eye is still good as he still has that 100 point spread between batting average and on base average. The problem is the batting average is .218 and the slug% is .370. He has not slugged below .400 since 2005. Many will say he's simply paying the price for not playing in Philly anymore, but I'm going to reserve judgement, after all it has only been 3 1/2 months into the contract. For now he's a colossal disappointment, but things can change. 

Center Fielder: Mistakes in judgment might have cost the Nationals a real shot in 2011. They had Nyler Morgan, they decided he did not fit and sent him packing to the Brewers, where he is doing his best work to help lead the Brewers to a Central Division Pennant. To replace Morgan they brought in Rick Ankiel who was typically terrible. They are now using speedster Roger Bernadina who is a big improvement over Ankiel but he's no Nyler Morgan. To be fair, this may be the best baseball Nyler Morgan ever plays. 

Left Fielder: If you had looked at Lance Nix a month ago you'd have said, wow, what a season he's having. On June 5th he had on OPS of .911. Since then .648. Bringing us to his current OPS of .798 which is still good for a left fielder these days but a far cry  from his pre June 5th work. 

Bench:  Guess who sits on the Nat bench waiting for Broxton?

Starting Pitching:

Xeifrank Dodger Simulation Matchup
xFIP/tERA/SIERA
Matchup Fave Win% Total Runs
4.10 / 4.58 / 4.29
John Lannan versus Hiroki Kuroda LA 57.36 6.8
3.99 /4.26 / 3.70
Tom Gorzelanny versus Ted Lilly LA
3.75 / 4.42 / 3.91 Jason Marquis versus Chad Billingsley LA

 

Lefty Lannan doesn't strike out anyone but so far he's getting the job done. Lefty Gorzelanny could always strike people out but command was his problem, so far this year his command has improved and now he's the second best pitcher on the staff. Tom did turn an ankle but is expected to make this start. Is it any surprise the Cubs traded the good pitcher and kept the crappy ones. Has anyone noticed who the Cubs have been using in their rotation this year? Keith would be pleased as more then any TBLA member he was big on Gorzelanny.  Marquis is actually pitching well. Shit happens

Bullpen:

Setup:Henry Rodriquez has the second most innings out of the bullpen in July but has a strep throat so he may not pitch much this weekend. Look to see Tyler Clippard, Todd Coffey, and Ryan Mattheus, with lefty Sean Burnett getting the Andre call.

Closer: Drew Storen won the job and has not given up a run in July to go along his his six July saves.

I like this team. Put Matt Kemp and Clayton Kershaw on it,  and this would be the team I'd want to watch play for the next 10 years.

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Riggleman

is not the manager, unless the Nats are more forgiving than your typical DC institution

by truemontenegro on Jul 22, 2011 11:57 AM PDT reply actions  

Good God, what an oops.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jul 22, 2011 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fixed again

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jul 22, 2011 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

you might your wish Phil, this team wants to win and they have the some serious money

by NotJoeTorre on Jul 22, 2011 12:02 PM PDT reply actions  

get* im bout to break this computer

by NotJoeTorre on Jul 22, 2011 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Repost
McCourt had argued he, like all debtors, entitled to use business judgment to pick loan. By not disclosing his personal financial stake …

    … in proposed loan, judge said McCourt betrayed that judgment and opened door for court to consider loans on strictly financial terms.

Finally, McCourt suffers direct consequences as a result of being shifty and deceptive. Entirely for that reason. Judges don’t like deceit.

by berkowit28 on Jul 22, 2011 12:03 PM PDT reply actions  

What I’m wondering is how Gross can order MLB to remove portions of the loan requirements.

by Tripon on Jul 22, 2011 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

because he is the boss

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jul 22, 2011 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep

Judges can do whatever they want (certainly within the law).

by bhsportsguy on Jul 22, 2011 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Which is also why

MLB will wait a while before asking the Court to put Schieffer back in. I have other thoughts about today’s ruling, I’ll post a fan post tonight.

by bhsportsguy on Jul 22, 2011 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sounds good!

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Jul 22, 2011 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

thanks for all the insight

Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.

by Pure Azure on Jul 22, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well

he was slightly more deceitful than MLB

by bhsportsguy on Jul 22, 2011 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

yes, you have to wear a very black hat to put Bud on a white horse

way to go Frank! You make Bud look like the hero!

by Hollywood Joe on Jul 22, 2011 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

So when is the earliest this gets settled? some time next year? the only thing I can see happening is McCourt getting steamrolled in the next 1-2 months or this not ending ever.

by NotJoeTorre on Jul 22, 2011 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m going to assume that Frank McCourt will lose the TV rights motion. The question is does Frank McCourt finally see the writing on the wall and sell, or does he keep on trucking along?

by Tripon on Jul 22, 2011 12:16 PM PDT reply actions  

What does he have to fall back on?

by NotJoeTorre on Jul 22, 2011 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sell their 45 houses and live fairly comfortably?

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Jul 22, 2011 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

The L.A. Marathon.

by Tripon on Jul 22, 2011 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fucker killed the bike marathon. I’m almost more pissed about that than about what he did to the Dodgers.

by TopDeckTrueBlue on Jul 22, 2011 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

you were an

almost
away from really taking some punishment here

by Hollywood Joe on Jul 22, 2011 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s gonna truck and appeal until the Dodgers are ripped from his cold dead hands.

Then he’s gonna retire to some Caribbean island and spend the rest of his life drinking mojitos.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jul 22, 2011 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe there’s ownership resolution in time for Joey Votto’s free agency post 2013 :)

by Table on Jul 22, 2011 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Footnote

There’s an interesting footnote on p. 4:

Mr. McCourt blames the Commissioner for Debtors’ woes while the Commissioner alleges Mr.
McCourt’ mismanagement and self-dealin are the cause. It appears that their dispute will shortly be before
the Court. Their acrimonious relationship and Mr. McCourt’ belief that the Commissioner is hostile toward
him is an unhelpful distraction which obfuscates the uncontroverted testimony from Debtors’ representative,
Mr. Jeffrey Ingram, that Baseball is not hostile to the Debtors.

Note last sentence – “uncontroverted testimony”. I think this will allow Selig’s case for taking charge (in that 11-page letter he wrote to McCourt, published earlier today) to be considered on its own merits without much chance that McCourt’s claim that this letter somehow demonstrates biased hostility to get in the way.

by berkowit28 on Jul 22, 2011 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

the footnote on page 1 is awesome

by Hollywood Joe on Jul 22, 2011 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

I enjoyed that :)

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 22, 2011 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

OT but this cracked me the hell up
RT @ConanOBrien I have arrived @Comic_Con. The air is thick w/ the smell of Cheetos & celibacy. #SDCC

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Jul 22, 2011 12:29 PM PDT reply actions  

I thought you should know you have a doopleganger. Undadog posted on LAGConfidential this morning

by Josie Becker on Jul 22, 2011 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

really? just coincidence or a imposter?

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Jul 22, 2011 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

(an)

and that’s cool, I will post there soon and show him what’s what.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Jul 22, 2011 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

just a coincidence. I imagine he wanted your name, saw it was taken, and just went with the a. His avatar is also the underdog dog.

by Josie Becker on Jul 22, 2011 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

5 simple words

THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE!!! (then you slice his head off)

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 22, 2011 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

like in Year One?

“Can’t you just pierce our ears?”

by Josie Becker on Jul 22, 2011 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

i haven't seen that

have you never seen Highlander, Josie?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 22, 2011 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gibbons

should have gone to that doctor

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 22, 2011 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

He got a free exam

from Dr. Menger

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Jul 22, 2011 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Better than the one from Dr. Mengele.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jul 22, 2011 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

JimBowdenESPNxm
Dodgers talking to Brewers about Caroll

by silverwidow on Jul 22, 2011 12:57 PM PDT reply actions  

Carroll for Gamel straight up lol

"Fast just got Faster"

by BFDC on Jul 22, 2011 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

The joke is that the Brewers would be willing to trade Carroll for Carlos Gomez.

by Tripon on Jul 22, 2011 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Either move seems pretty fair.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jul 22, 2011 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Isn’t Gomez another TGJ?

by silverwidow on Jul 22, 2011 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

More power, less walks, but yes.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jul 22, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

His shoulder also separated from his body a couple of days ago.

by Tripon on Jul 22, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Even more reason for the Brewers to do it then.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jul 22, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

He and Dee could have a nice foot race.

by kinbote on Jul 22, 2011 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Taken from BTF.
Detroit Tigers broadcaster Rod Allen made an unfunny and inappropriate attempt at a joke about Latinos during Fox Sports Detroit’s telecast Thursday night.

    Allen, a color analyst since 2003, said the postgame meal in the Tigers clubhouse at Target Field should include rice and beans, because most of the team’s lineup against the Twins had Latino heritage.

    You see, the Latinos just love them some rice and beans, as the stereotype goes.

    Would Allen, who is African American, make a joke about a Tigers lineup that was mostly black requiring something stereotypical to eat? Would he stoop to make a watermelon joke? Maybe he would. Maybe he has. But that wouldn’t make it right, or funny.

      Allen: "Tigers pretty much got a all-Latin squad out there tonight."

      Impemba: "Ordoñez, Cabrera, Martinez, Peralta, Guillen, Avila, Betemit. Jackson and Boesch don’t qualify."

      Allen: "They’re gonna have to get some rice and beans for the postgame spread tonight."

      Impemba: "[Nervous-sounding laugh]. Yes, they are. … Two and two!"

by Tripon on Jul 22, 2011 1:01 PM PDT reply actions  

I honestly don’t know what I think about this

by Hollywood Joe on Jul 22, 2011 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

so I am going ot stop thinking about it right now!

by Hollywood Joe on Jul 22, 2011 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well that dude is clearly to dumb to hold down a job.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jul 22, 2011 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

yes

my gamut of feelings goes from
What’s really the big deal? He is talking food sterotypes, not that the people who eat those foods are less than in anyway…if they were all Italians and he said put out the lasagna spread would people care?

How could he say that! Outrage! Because any characterization of culture associated with race now gets that first reaction from me…conditioning I suppose

to finally arriving at:
That guy is not too smart, just avoid the topic, because no matter what you say someone is likely to be offended so say nothing at all

by Hollywood Joe on Jul 22, 2011 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

And he wasn’t being sensitive to Magglio’s gluten allergy.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jul 22, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

my point made funny

but yes, exactly

by Hollywood Joe on Jul 22, 2011 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

love the Benny Hill music

Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.

by Pure Azure on Jul 22, 2011 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

baseball players are mostly dumb

I said it

by Hollywood Joe on Jul 22, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

and that was hysterical

by Hollywood Joe on Jul 22, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

can only imagine his quotes on Japanese-heavy lineups. (If there were such a thing in MLB games)

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Jul 22, 2011 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

At first I read this as

Allen, a colored analyst since 2003

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Jul 22, 2011 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

who’s racist now Marty?

by Hollywood Joe on Jul 22, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am?

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Jul 22, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

hope you guys caught LOUIE last night btw...

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Jul 22, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

not yet

I’ll watch it tonight

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Jul 22, 2011 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I shall say no more...

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Jul 22, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t get the “two and two” part. What is he, Chuck Woolery?

by silverwidow on Jul 22, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

A man changing the subject as fast as possible.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jul 22, 2011 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Impemba was calling the game.

by Eric Stephen on Jul 22, 2011 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm serious

He was changing the subject back to the call of the game.

by Eric Stephen on Jul 22, 2011 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gotcha. Heh was just a short laugh on my part for not getting it.

by silverwidow on Jul 22, 2011 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Now let’s get back to this one

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Jul 22, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

less offensive

than Lyons saying Latinos were gonna steal his wallet

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 22, 2011 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

yes

to me there is a difference

are all characterizations unfair, or just the negative ones?

by Hollywood Joe on Jul 22, 2011 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

razor's edge

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 22, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve decided we’ve gone too damn far. On the one hand, the argument is in suggesting all Latinos like a certain food, you’re characterizing an entire race. On the other hand, name for me a Latino restaurant that doesn’t serve either rice, beans, or both.

by Josie Becker on Jul 22, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

playing the race card

is the equivalent of upending the board. no one wins.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 22, 2011 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah the problem is that while there are grades/levels of offensiveness I suppose

and this comment on the surface isn’t the most offensive we’ve heard, it is a) not funny, so not worth it; and b) something he still should’ve thought, if he had a modern, sharp brain, “Hm, this may be offensive, better stop my mouth before it speaks it”

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Jul 22, 2011 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

yup

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 22, 2011 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

clearly stupid to say it

but it is also stupid that as a society every association with not just race, but culture, becomes so sensitive that you have to pretend that you don’t know that the majority of latinos diet consist of the staples of rice and beans

by Hollywood Joe on Jul 22, 2011 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

which it does

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 22, 2011 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

because they are delicious

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jul 22, 2011 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

political correctness run amok

it drives me bonkers

Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.

by Pure Azure on Jul 22, 2011 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is a latino harmed if I assume that they like rice and beans?

I guess, if I invited them for dinner….maybe depending on the menu

People can assume I must eat a bunch of italian food, they should, its true

by Hollywood Joe on Jul 22, 2011 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

You’re OK as long as you don’t offer an Aussie a Fosters. Those commercials lie.

by Eric Stephen on Jul 22, 2011 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've heard that

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 22, 2011 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

don’t offer a Brit a Newky Brown either

by Josie Becker on Jul 22, 2011 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

what about

a Heineken?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 22, 2011 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

that’s fine, just don’t give it to a Dutchman

by Josie Becker on Jul 22, 2011 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

have your travels ever taken you to Ireland, HJ?

do they drink Guiness there?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 22, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve been to Ireland about 10 times – I spent a bunch of time in the west in a small town called Balina – lovely

Yes, guiness is better and they drink copious amounts

by Hollywood Joe on Jul 22, 2011 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

word

once knew a girl who grew up near Belfast. Didn’t know she was Irish as she had gotten rid of her accent due to teasing as a child.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 22, 2011 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

that's a real shame

Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.

by Pure Azure on Jul 22, 2011 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

One of the funniest things I’ve ever seen was a drunken tourist in Dublin trying to get on the stage at a pub during some live music. The lead singer kicked him off because he was holding a half-pint!

by kinbote on Jul 22, 2011 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Unless it was a bird, that’s just sad

by Josie Becker on Jul 22, 2011 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

There are principles that must be upheld in the world of drinking (evidently). I thought it was perfect. You want to come up here and act a fool? At least have the common courtesy to be drinking a proper pint!

by kinbote on Jul 22, 2011 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also, don’t call it a Newky Brown. In some circles that might get your balls grabbed.

by Eric Stephen on Jul 22, 2011 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I did this. They called it “Dog.”

I said, “I like Newcastle Brown.”

They said, “We do, too.”

I said, “Why did you call it ‘Dog?’”

They looked at each other and said they didn’t know. But everybody in England calls it Dog.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Jul 22, 2011 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hah!

I can contribute to mindless pop culture thread for once.

I have just opened a bottle of Newcastle Brown Ale I had at home. On the back label appears this note:

FACT: Nickname

Newcastle Brown Ale is affectionately known as “Dog” by those in the know. “I’m gannin’ to see* a man about a Dog” and “I’m taking the Dog for a walk” were often used by Geordie men as an excuse for visiting their local to sample their beloved tipple.
    *I am off to see

[Geordie means someone from Newcastle area]

by berkowit28 on Jul 22, 2011 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ooo, I love talking Brit culture

To be a true Geordie, you have to be from Newcastle or it’s environs, you have to support Newcastle United, and you get to use the versicle phrase “Why aye”

by Josie Becker on Jul 22, 2011 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I lived there (there being London, not Newcastle) 21 years, but I don’t set up to be an expert on things British. Still, I do know a Geordie when I hear one. Usually, unless I mistake it for some other northern accent.

by berkowit28 on Jul 22, 2011 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Moe Howard

was a Geordie?

Why aye oughtta….

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jul 22, 2011 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

once walked into a bathroom in a hostel

where I was staying in London, two Aussies were going at it in a shower in the men’s loo. They were both hammered, the hostel was full of Aussies. Well, they were TRYING to go at it, the dude had one too many drinks I suppose. I had the urge to interrupt and say, “Is this Australian for sex?”

Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.

by Pure Azure on Jul 22, 2011 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fucking Oeltjen gets around . . .

by kinbote on Jul 22, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

well if you saw Oeltjen fucking, you’d tell the board about it too!

by Josie Becker on Jul 22, 2011 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

a poor man's Ethier

Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.

by Pure Azure on Jul 22, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

when I was flown up to Berkeley for Black Recruitment Weekend, they served fried chicken and cornbread. I wasn’t offended, but I wasn’t really hungry for chicken.

by Josie Becker on Jul 22, 2011 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

At Brandeis, they had a lot of kosher meal options.

I call shenanigans!

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Jul 22, 2011 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love Italian food…….so much……nom nom

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 22, 2011 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

The harm comes from the fact that he’d never make the Waldorf Salad comment. It’s othering the Latino players while assuming whitey likes all the diverse joys of the spread.

It’s not the worst possible thing he could have said, but he shouldn’t have said it.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jul 22, 2011 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

this comment should be framed and placed at the front of announcer booths. Don’t other people, and if it’s not funny/entertaining/on topic, then stfu

by Josie Becker on Jul 22, 2011 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am going to make schnitzel jokes every day this week and report back what happens

by Hollywood Joe on Jul 22, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

make sure you laugh heartily after saying it, be sure to poke the dirty Kraut too, if they aren’t laughing

by Josie Becker on Jul 22, 2011 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Those Germans aren’t all sunshine and rainbows you know.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jul 22, 2011 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

LOL

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by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 22, 2011 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I assume that the vast majority of your family are mafioso.

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by David Young on Jul 22, 2011 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

there in lies the difference

If I assume a latino is in a gang, clearly a negative = BAD and almost always not true, for me the offensive stuff should be stuff that is almost always not true. The stuff that is almost always true is not offensive…heck, it is often culture.

Even though all mafioso are italians, very few italians are mafioso – so apart from it being a bad thing (crime), it is mostly not true

and yes Dave, damn you, some members of my family were deported in the 1950s

Even though a high percentage of gang members might be latino, still very few latinos are in gangs – mostly not true

 

by Hollywood Joe on Jul 22, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

yes

that’s the bad one for us Italian-Americans. Hell, Curious George has an offensive “Italian” character. Luckily it’s so bad it’s semi-harmless.

by kinbote on Jul 22, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m certain most of my ancestors on one side were inscrutable opium dealers.

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by David Young on Jul 22, 2011 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

my wife is happa, she and her other asian girlfiends make fun of asian drivers

I think, that becuase I married an asian, I am given a pass into the club and can make the same jokes. I critique the rice! Why can’t I critique the driving?

they, in thier wisdom and graciousness, have rule against me with considerable ferocity. I don’t push it

by Hollywood Joe on Jul 22, 2011 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think the same thing

and my wife lets me get away with it

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by nolander on Jul 22, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

As a Jewish person, I guess I should feel thankful that

a) not that many people like “our” food (though dammit potato kugel and latkes are delicious) and b) not that many of us in baseball for that matter. ;-)

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by underdog on Jul 22, 2011 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

jewish deli’s are important

when I lived in North Carolina my wife and I drove to DC several times just to eat in a real jewish deli

Los Angeles is great

by Hollywood Joe on Jul 22, 2011 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah the main culinary thing I miss after leaving SoCal is probably that

LA has far superior Jewish delis than up here. Not NYC good but as close as it gets on the west coast. So, yeah, good deli food is the bomb.

Gefilte fish, not so much.

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by underdog on Jul 22, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Depending on where in NC, that could have been a 10 hour drive!

by Michael White on Jul 22, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I needed a pastrami on rye with a bowl of matzo ball soup

by Hollywood Joe on Jul 22, 2011 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Crap!

The Jewish food discussion went on down here! I misplaced my comment!

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Jul 22, 2011 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I need a Langers fix

but I’m no longer close to it

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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Jul 22, 2011 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I suppose if he was equal opportunity and if he saw the Cardinals lineup went “better break out the waldorf salad” it would be okay.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jul 22, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I seriously

almost started laughing really hard at my work.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 22, 2011 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

my mom likes to make an enchilada casserole. Cause rolling things is too hard, apparently

by Josie Becker on Jul 22, 2011 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sonoran style!

Stacked, not rolled.

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by David Young on Jul 22, 2011 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

You should apply for that White Sox gig.

by kinbote on Jul 22, 2011 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

it takes time and is messy

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by nolander on Jul 22, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

TWSS

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by David Young on Jul 22, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

does she throw too much cheese on top?

by delias man on Jul 22, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

and then you put sour cream on that?

by delias man on Jul 22, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

nice touch

my mom would bake them in a dish. I obviously don’t eat them like that anymore.

by delias man on Jul 22, 2011 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am all about Cholula

I had friend who were Tapatillo people, they scoffed at Cholula, so we did a blind taste test…all four of us went with Cholula

by Hollywood Joe on Jul 22, 2011 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

high

fucking
five

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by nolander on Jul 22, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

x

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jul 22, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

ive been using topatillo

but i dig Cholula too. I’ve also been using El Yucateco, its not vinegar based and its HOT! but its good! I’ve been using Crystal for my vinegar based hot sauce lately (but thats NOLA, not mexican ahha)

by mintxcore on Jul 22, 2011 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hopin' and prayin'

Gotta think we need 3b,c, and maybe 1b help longer-term 1st year of A,AA,AAA types at the deadline. Wouldn’t young pitching be more at a premium and therefore, maybe, just maybe, we could get youth here at the deadline rather than vice versa for a change?

by megaballs on Jul 22, 2011 1:01 PM PDT reply actions  

From Josh Fisher
Source: Schieffer will not be resuming his monitoring duties.

by Eric Stephen on Jul 22, 2011 1:03 PM PDT reply actions  

new monitor? executioner instead?

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by Pure Azure on Jul 22, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kim Ng step on down!

by Tripon on Jul 22, 2011 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mr. McCourt's office is that way

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by Pure Azure on Jul 22, 2011 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d hope that Kim has a day job that would miss her

but it would sure make for a good TV movie if it went down that way

by Hollywood Joe on Jul 22, 2011 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Haven't been a fantasy book guy in 25 years or so

but have to share, really enjoying

The Game of Thrones
books

great political machinations in a fantasy world that is both familiar and fresh

I dig it

by Hollywood Joe on Jul 22, 2011 1:13 PM PDT reply actions  

i might check them books out

the show has gotten rave reviews

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by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 22, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

What book are you on?

by Grimjack on Jul 22, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

the 4th – a feast for crows or something like that

been reading them one after the other, kind of like eating a bag of chips

by Hollywood Joe on Jul 22, 2011 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was told the 1st book was 800 pages

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by meercatjohn on Jul 22, 2011 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

all the books are long

but it is fantasy literature so you can read fast

not like working your way through the russians, or Joyce, or Faulkner, or anyone of that ilk

by Hollywood Joe on Jul 22, 2011 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I beg of you

Please don’t drop any spoilers on us who picked it up watching the show.

by Michael White on Jul 22, 2011 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

not a word from me

the books are fun if you go that way

by Hollywood Joe on Jul 22, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

If anything I might read the first one now that the first season of the show is over, but I don’t want to read ahead. I enjoyed the show too much.

by Michael White on Jul 22, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I struggled with that myself, but gave into the urge

One book = one season

thus far anyway

by Hollywood Joe on Jul 22, 2011 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

as it should be

/rhymes with marry potter

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by nolander on Jul 22, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

ust read

where the 5th book was just released

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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Jul 22, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just blew through the entire Dance With Dragons in the past two days. Really good book.

Very fucking long, too.

by fbihop on Jul 22, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

This made me laugh for some reason
@mlbtraderumors MLB Trade Rumors
Yankees Asked About Shields, Rays Said No http://bit.ly/peVh1p

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by underdog on Jul 22, 2011 1:16 PM PDT reply actions  

/kemp and kershaw for montero

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by underdog on Jul 22, 2011 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would have went with “Yankees Ask About & Rays Put Up Defense Shields”

by Eric Stephen on Jul 22, 2011 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Comedy Death Rays!

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by underdog on Jul 22, 2011 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

If I were the Rays GM

I’d send Brian Cashman these:

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by David Young on Jul 22, 2011 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

and some rice and beans

by kinbote on Jul 22, 2011 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

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by David Young on Jul 22, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

“Can we have Shields? Pretty please? With sugar on top?”

by eitherethier on Jul 22, 2011 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

“be your best frieeeeennnnnddd……”

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 22, 2011 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can only imagine the crap the Yankees offered up

Our top 12 prospects are untouchable, but we’re willing to make an exception by pairing Ivan Nova with the recently acquired Marcus Thames.

by oshea2002 on Jul 22, 2011 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

So I walked the four blocks to the food trucks

looking forward to trying this sushi burrito thing and the J-something truck mintxcore promised me was a no-show! The other one he mentioned, Rebel Bite, was there. I tried the “Rebel Style” — cheddar cheese, bolognese/marinara sauce, caramelized onions and/or caramelized kimchi slaw, ‘Molotov Cocktail’ sauce — “Karl B. Marx” — pieces of marinated Kalbi short rib — grilled sandwich. It was pretty darn tasty and a pretty reasonable deal at $5.50, I thought. It’s nice to have more options around here.

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by David Young on Jul 22, 2011 1:24 PM PDT reply actions  

I hit up the burnt truck and the baconmania truck

my heart still hearts from all the bacon

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by nolander on Jul 22, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

yay!

i was actually there but didnt see you obviously hahah I’m glad you liked Rebel Bite! It’s quickly become one of my fav food trucks because its simple but unique and good for the money. I love the chili too, and if you wanna go crazy there nutella banana cheese quesadilla is weird and awesome.

Jogasaki was there wednesday and I think they just go on Wednesdays and Rebel Bite are there only Fridays.

glad you went and sorry we missed each other! You would have been the first person besides JLS to meet my wife

by mintxcore on Jul 22, 2011 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry I missed your wife.
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oh, and you too.

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by David Young on Jul 22, 2011 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tell me Dave, does the back of your hand sting much from such powerful “bitch” slaps.

by Grimjack on Jul 22, 2011 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

hahah

i do not fear you meeting my wife in real life, at least in a public place. hahah

by mintxcore on Jul 22, 2011 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

so New Orleans and Nashville are in the PCL

the fuck?

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by Pure Azure on Jul 22, 2011 1:24 PM PDT reply actions  

the PCL absorbed what he International league or something like that, n’est ce pas?

by Josie Becker on Jul 22, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

International League still exists as the other AAA.

by silverwidow on Jul 22, 2011 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

The old American Association got swallowed up some time ago, making one giant PCL.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jul 22, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

that’s it. The American Association

by Josie Becker on Jul 22, 2011 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

The 1969-1993 Atlanta Braves and a few decades of New Orleans Saints agree with your question.

by Eric Stephen on Jul 22, 2011 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tampa Bay Bucs = AFC West for one year

by silverwidow on Jul 22, 2011 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Phoenix Cardinals in the NFC East!

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by Pure Azure on Jul 22, 2011 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Carolina Panthers in the NFC West

by silverwidow on Jul 22, 2011 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Brings in the question why you need divisions in an era of chartered flights.

by Tripon on Jul 22, 2011 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

because a 8 hour flight sucks donkey balls?

by Josie Becker on Jul 22, 2011 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Unless you’re flying with Wade Boggs.

I guess it would suck if he had the window and you had the aisle.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jul 22, 2011 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

and he kept having to go to the bathroom every half hour

by Josie Becker on Jul 22, 2011 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, that was the joke. Because he’d be drinking a lot of beer.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jul 22, 2011 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I ruined your joke. I’ll buy you another one.

by Josie Becker on Jul 22, 2011 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Much appreciated.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jul 22, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

50+ cans

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by nolander on Jul 22, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

on a Boston to New York jaunt.

by Eric Stephen on Jul 22, 2011 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

He drinks more beer in a sitting then I drink water in a week. That’s awesome.

by NotJoeTorre on Jul 22, 2011 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

They still do it anyway, If I’m a baseball player, I rather make two trips a season to New York and Chicago instead of three trips to Phoenix and Denver

by Tripon on Jul 22, 2011 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

…I don’t think you thought this through.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jul 22, 2011 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

A (more) balanced schedule would probably include 12 games with say, the Cubs. 6 home and 6 away games with the team. They would probably want two home and away series.

Contrast that to the current 18 games(on average 3 home and away series) vs. a rival and 6 games or so against everyone outside the division.

by Tripon on Jul 22, 2011 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

if you’re a baseball player you wouldn’t have time to get out and see New York and Chicago. It’s not like you’re in The Rolling Stones, you have to sleep to be good at your job

by Josie Becker on Jul 22, 2011 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you’re an owner in the west, you’d rather pay to charter more trips to Phoenix and less to New York.

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by David Young on Jul 22, 2011 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

You’ll make more money on average if you can book more games against the Cubs, Cards, and Mets than you would against the Rockies, Padres, and D’Backs.

You would lose the Giants games though, but well, fuck the Giants.

by Tripon on Jul 22, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

but properly cooked it becomes delicious!

by Hollywood Joe on Jul 22, 2011 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

this is good if you are going for the girl in every port plan

by Hollywood Joe on Jul 22, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

To bad we are going to miss the NL debut of Chien-Ming Wang

Emma Span recently tweeted that she wondered if her proposed headline for an article she wrote on him would survive the editor: Wang Rising In Minors.

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by David Young on Jul 22, 2011 1:25 PM PDT reply actions  

Wang for Shields?

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by underdog on Jul 22, 2011 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wonder what would have happened if when the Yankees had Randy Johson and Chien-Ming Wang, they also had RA Dickey and JJ Putz. And just for good measure, Dick Pole as a pitching coach.

by StolenMonkey86 on Jul 22, 2011 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Mike Garrett must have sucked at his job if he couldn’t stop the NCAA from being dicks.

by Tripon on Jul 22, 2011 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

(I'm not going to continue this topic but)

Doesn’t the NCAA deserve their share of blame? Is any program “clean”? I can’t even keep track of all the penalties, etc.

by kinbote on Jul 22, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

yes

they suck more than MLB

by Hollywood Joe on Jul 22, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah, that's pretty clear now

Garrett basically spit in their face, and hence the ridiculous hammer. Hadens’ pandering is really starting to piss me off, but no doubt he’d have kissed enough ass to have gotten off.

by oshea2002 on Jul 22, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cool

only one comment about the preview and it related to the error.

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by meercatjohn on Jul 22, 2011 1:41 PM PDT reply actions  

Does Davey Johnson smell like embalming fluid?

there, three

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by Pure Azure on Jul 22, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

mike morse is big and hits the ball hard

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by nolander on Jul 22, 2011 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

i wish we had him

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 22, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wilson Ramos is doing very well for a man that had six walks in 2009.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jul 22, 2011 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

its the Nats

Who gives a shit until Strasberg and Harper are there

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Jul 22, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

You know that franchise that people like to make fun of? Our team is worse than them, and there is no help coming.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Jul 22, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

It is true, our franchise is currently in worse shape.

It is not true that there is no help coming though.

But it may be too long before help comes in the form of new ownership, if that’s what you mean…

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by underdog on Jul 22, 2011 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I knew I should have gone with “things are gonna get worse before they get better.”

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Jul 22, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

That works.

/cue the It Gets Better (for Dodger fans) video I’ve concocted in my own head.

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by underdog on Jul 22, 2011 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Nationals seem to have good hitters

do their pitchers suck? The ones we are facing don’t look that bad.

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by nolander on Jul 22, 2011 1:45 PM PDT reply actions  

I covered that in them having good hitters

they have other good hitters other then werthless

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by nolander on Jul 22, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Zimmermann is their best

he’s a future stud

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by Pure Azure on Jul 22, 2011 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

pitcher that is

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by Pure Azure on Jul 22, 2011 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am pleased he sucks

His sucking, sucks on my ego!

by Hollywood Joe on Jul 22, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

They’ve given a lot of plate apperances to bad players to end up with this lineup.

At least 200 to:
Roger Bernadina (.689 OPS)
Jerry Hairston (.722)

At least 100 to:
LaRoche
Alex Cora (.565)
Pudge
Rick Ankiel (.624)

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jul 22, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

From Jayson Stark
The Yankees, Tigers, Red Sox and Rangers are among a bunch of teams that have asked the Dodgers about Hiroki Kuroda, but those teams are still waiting for word back on whether Kuroda would approve a deal. Clubs that have spoken with the Dodgers say they’ll almost certainly move Jamey Carroll. And there are indications they’ve gotten some nibbles on Rafael Furcal.

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by underdog on Jul 22, 2011 1:57 PM PDT reply actions  

If Ned manages to get a decent return for Carroll or especially Furcal (!) and/or even more miraculously Aaron Miles

I will no longer think him terrible, will bump him up to mediocre.

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by underdog on Jul 22, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

If he gets a decent return on those guys, I will expect he feeds the next Dodger stadium crowd with 7 fishes and a buck of water he turned to wine

by Hollywood Joe on Jul 22, 2011 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

What's decent though?

Furcal is legitimately a DFA candidate, so a warm body probably qualifies as “decent”

by Michael White on Jul 22, 2011 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s the one thing that won’t qualifiy as decent for Furcal.

In my opinion.

by Michael White on Jul 22, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yet others might be fine with that because it means that Gordon becomes the starting SS immediately

by Michael White on Jul 22, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t give a shit about cash though. The saved money isn’t going to help next year. I want a player.

"Fast just got Faster"

by BFDC on Jul 22, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Right

But some are lobbying for Furcal to be DFA’d. This is basically DFA’ing him.

by Michael White on Jul 22, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

If we DFA’d Furcal this week, he would end up with the 3rd worst OPS in the history of the LA Dodgers with over 100 at bats.

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by meercatjohn on Jul 22, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seems pointless to me. Even in august we could waiver trade him for something I bet.

"Fast just got Faster"

by BFDC on Jul 22, 2011 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Manny Ramirez didn't bring anything back in a waiver deal

And he wasn’t looking down the barrell of one of the worst seasons in LA Dodger history

by Michael White on Jul 22, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yea but at the time I was thinking shedding salary mattered and was a good thing for the next season. Now I don’t think that is the case.

"Fast just got Faster"

by BFDC on Jul 22, 2011 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Right. For Furcal more than that, a warm body who can be decent minor leaguer

would be a decent return.

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by underdog on Jul 22, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

You’ll only need 7 fishes, because the attendance will be 7

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Jul 22, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

go back to your bridge

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jul 22, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

You’re just prejudiced against the short, angry, and ugly.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Jul 22, 2011 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hoping

that if the Dodgers trade enough away they might call me up before seasons end

by Hollywood Joe on Jul 22, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

“Now here comes Joe, affectionately known as ‘Hollywood’, in his season debut for the big club, he looks at a ball in the dirt, 1-0.”

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 22, 2011 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think I just peed myself reading this

by Hollywood Joe on Jul 22, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

i'm hoping you knock a run in

so I can hear, “and Hollywood Joe, now stands on the big stage and makes the most of it.”

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 22, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

By September you’ll be “Hollywood Joe, the big butter and egg man.”

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Jul 22, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lotta Eye Tyes out there today

I hope they ordered enough pizza

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Jul 22, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

And a New Esspresso machine.

by Grimjack on Jul 22, 2011 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

“Ya know, they say the Mediterranean diet is really the most healthy way you can live, and it sure is delicious.”

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Jul 22, 2011 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fresh seafood, fresh veggies and no processed shit.

by Grimjack on Jul 22, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

For all the shit Ned gets for not selling

If he sold EVERYBDOY on the block, we’d have to be impressed

by Michael White on Jul 22, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

He hasn’t done shit yet.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jul 22, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sitting on his hands might be considered a move.

by Tripon on Jul 22, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

and if he sells EVERYONE for a some rice and beans why should we be impressed?

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jul 22, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I want some LEGIT spects, not another John Ely.

by silverwidow on Jul 22, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

John Ely contributed to a major league roster

That’s a fine return for some of the shit we’re trotting out there

by Michael White on Jul 22, 2011 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

amen

as bad as he is, he was a good return

by Hollywood Joe on Jul 22, 2011 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, the problem is that it was Ned’s original move that caused him to get such a ‘poor’ return.

by Tripon on Jul 22, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like how Stark writes, one of my favorite ESPN writers.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jul 22, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

So this is a soccer comment (bear with me)
There is a dichotomy to the DP:a older star begets a different profit(tix,jerseys)than a younger one(transfer fee);still a profit

A DP is essentially a big contract player, and a transfer fee would be like a bunch of prospects in baseball (something traded to get the right to an up and coming star)

Right now we have Andre Ethier and Matt Kemp, and most people want to keep at least one of them, because they can sell tickets and jerseys in the future (and play well but this is just economics here). I guess my question is, is the notion of a young star becoming a veteran superstar for the same team still viable? Should every team be looking for their Albert Pujols? Or is there now a dichotomy where a player can only get one big contract from a team (either initially in his 20s, or brought over in his 30s)?

by Josie Becker on Jul 22, 2011 2:17 PM PDT reply actions  

Don’t think there is one right answer to this, but obviously you see less and less of a player staying with one team.

"Fast just got Faster"

by BFDC on Jul 22, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I guess it’s a big of an abstract. I guess I’m trying to say being a GM must be a near impossible job. It’s not just plugging holes, you have to trade young talent so you can afford to keep some of your young talent, and well as bring in some old talent, and stay within budget. And how do you know which of your young players is the guy you have to keep lest the team fall into oblivion.

by Josie Becker on Jul 22, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you have to trade younger guys, you trade guys who play positions where you have a lot of depth beneath them, and sign guys in positions where you don’t.

That is part of how teams like Tampa can trade guys like Garza and stay competitive.

"Fast just got Faster"

by BFDC on Jul 22, 2011 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

most people want to keep at least one of them

I believe that’s actually an understatement. I believe everybody wants to keep at least one of them.

I deserve every bit of crap that Michael White gives me about wanting to sell the team off and try to rebuild, because it’s not an inaccurate statement of what I think needs to happen, and even I want to keep Matt Kemp and build around him for a generation.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Jul 22, 2011 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Second graph should not be in a quote box.

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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Jul 22, 2011 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

right. I think I’m just having that moment where I realize we can’t keep Kersehaw, and Kemp, and Andre, and Billingsly, and expect the team to just get better. But don’t know how you decide which ones are worth it.

by Josie Becker on Jul 22, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ask me, duh.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jul 22, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kershaw Kemp and Billingsley. Use saved money to sign Prince.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jul 22, 2011 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

so basically you want to give Andre’s money to Prince. Would that be enough?

by Josie Becker on Jul 22, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

er, Andre and Loney’s money, and then we need a left fielder

by Josie Becker on Jul 22, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

that's what

Jerry Sands is for

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 22, 2011 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

plus Blake and Uribe are going to need replacing

by Josie Becker on Jul 22, 2011 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

we're stuck with Uribe

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 22, 2011 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought it was just two years. Three years…..gee whiz

by Josie Becker on Jul 22, 2011 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

yarp

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 22, 2011 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

indeed

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Jul 22, 2011 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

:)

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 22, 2011 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

ah well, that's where it could be interesting

Put Jerry there and play Trayvon in LF?

Move Kemp to RF and put Gywnn in CF?

Kyle Russell?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 22, 2011 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

My prediction: It is not enough in 2012. But Prince is extremely good and that is the kind of guy you pay for.

Fortunately, two things will happen: as the Dodgers stink, they will get high draft picks that will turn into useful players, and the bad contracts/dead money will come off the books, freeing up money for role players who can actually help. Having Prince around will be a godsend at that point.

Aim for 2013 or 14.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Jul 22, 2011 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

so you get paid to lie about crappy products (no offense), how do you sell Prince on “we’re gonna suck next year, but these eggs are gonna be fantastic chickens”

by Josie Becker on Jul 22, 2011 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

With extra dollars (see below).

One of the reasons I didn’t advocate getting Werth last offseason was that I thought he’d get crazy money. Turns out he got even crazier money than I anticipated. I don’t think Werth is good enough for that. But Prince is different— I think he’s good enough to overpay for him. I think that overpaying for him will pay off in wins.

But we all know the Dodgers’ situation, and I don’t expect this will happen.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Jul 22, 2011 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

you sell prince with dollars

that is all. There is nothing else to speak of on this subject.

by delias man on Jul 22, 2011 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Should we sweeten the pot

with ethnic food?

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Jul 22, 2011 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

“Hey Prince, do you like girls? Our new Beaver Squad can take care of that for you. Just point ‘em out in the stands and they’ll be at the clubhouse door lickety-split, if you know what I mean.”

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Jul 22, 2011 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Only works if it is vegan.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jul 22, 2011 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

no

just with the idea that he can finally get in the clubhouse to look for Guillermo Mota too.

by delias man on Jul 22, 2011 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

By the way, Marty, two Kavulapoints to you for the “Don’t break your glasses” comment. I had totally teed that one up and I’m glad someone knocked it out.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Jul 22, 2011 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am a fountain

of useless information

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Jul 22, 2011 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

That said, if I’m Prince, I don’t sign with the Dodgers unless the money is crazy. If the money is roughly equal, I go somewhere else.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Jul 22, 2011 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Then we pray Andre gets traded for something useful and some number of our prospects pan out and we convince some body Trayvon Robinson can be useful.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jul 22, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m just goofing with you. And besides, we figured out we’re not that far apart on how to move forward (we’d both trade/waive existing players to go after Fielder) just that our expectations thereafter are different.

by Michael White on Jul 22, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

so clearing space for lebron has taught you nothing?

by delias man on Jul 22, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have no comeback for this. And you’re 100% right

by Michael White on Jul 22, 2011 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

well

I would still clear space for Prince.

by delias man on Jul 22, 2011 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

We’d have to clear a lot of space. The man is big.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Jul 22, 2011 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

And the Dodger clubhouse is small.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jul 22, 2011 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know. We’re good. Besides, I can take it.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Jul 22, 2011 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

A McDonald’s manager in the Atlanta area is accused of punching a mother after she brought her autistic children and a service dog inside the restaurant, authorities said.

http://timesfreepress.com/news/2011/jul/22/cops-mcdonalds-boss-punches-mom-service-dog/

by Julio Nievas on Jul 22, 2011 2:20 PM PDT reply actions  

I have had experience with a woman and her service dog. One of them was a bitch.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jul 22, 2011 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Which one got serviced?

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Jul 22, 2011 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

did you come to know them?

by Hollywood Joe on Jul 22, 2011 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

T-mobile is offering a 4-G wifi convertor if you buy a 2gig plan with them.

by Tripon on Jul 22, 2011 2:31 PM PDT reply actions  

Have some new fast internet please dont use it too much

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jul 22, 2011 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

its not as fast as the original standard

but it still approaches home broadband speeds.

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jul 22, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Isn’t that because 4G IS bullshit? I don’t know much about this subject, but I have read some things that imply that what the networks are currently selling as 4G isn’t true 4G — that is still a few years away — and people are gonna get confused when true 4G comes along.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Jul 22, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yup

That’s basically what I was referring to

by Michael White on Jul 22, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

LTE is a real step forward

but even that is not real 4g. There are 4g phones that are not lte, and they are bullshit incarnate.

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jul 22, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gizmodo from last November.

Right now, every major carrier in the US is touting a “4G” network that’s either available or being rolled out. Sprint is pushing WiMax. AT&T and Verizon are pushing LTE (Long-Term Evolution). T-Mobile is pushing HSPA+ (High Speed Packet Access Evolved). They’re all faster than the “3G” speeds than we’re used to, with WiMax and HSPA+ delivering consistent, real-world speeds of anywhere from 3Mbps-12Mbps today. But a rep for the ITU told me flatly, “The fact is that there are no IMT-Advanced—or 4G—systems available or deployed at this stage.” Calling their newer, faster networks “4G” is “completely marketing” by the carriers, says Gartner analyst Phil Redman.
Still faster, though.

by fbihop on Jul 22, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

5g

is where its at. More Gs is always better

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Jul 22, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

http://www.theonion.com/articles/fuck-everything-were-doing-five-blades,11056/

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Jul 22, 2011 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, so?

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Jul 22, 2011 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

This seems random as fuck.

by silverwidow on Jul 22, 2011 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

So?

:-)

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Jul 22, 2011 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh man, get me out of here…

by silverwidow on Jul 22, 2011 2:49 PM PDT reply actions  

S-Widow want’s a trade?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 22, 2011 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

The work stretch run hurts when you’re about to go on vacation.

by silverwidow on Jul 22, 2011 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's exactly what I said 4 months ago

when I quit my job

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Jul 22, 2011 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

This site has ruined the internet for me.

I press “z” on every other page now to skip down to new posts.

by fbihop on Jul 22, 2011 2:49 PM PDT reply actions  

Finishing the last two papers in order to recieve my masters.

I think I will pass these classes anyway, but this will turn the minimum B to the A+ that everyone gets.

by Tripon on Jul 22, 2011 2:58 PM PDT reply actions  

BerniesCrew
ESPN’s Jim Bowden says #Brewers “trying hard” to acquire Jamey Carroll from #Dodgers, but are having trouble matching up on prospects.

by silverwidow on Jul 22, 2011 2:59 PM PDT reply actions  

Read: Brewers don’t have any prospects

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Jul 22, 2011 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

make em sweat ned

I’ll miss gamer. Parting is such sweet sorrow

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jul 22, 2011 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gamer for Gamel. Sold.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Jul 22, 2011 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gamel is not a prospect but I’d make that trade.

by dodgers4life on Jul 22, 2011 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Matt Gamel is like the third pound angus burger at McDonalds.

In the grand scheme of things, it’s terrible, but when you’re looking at the McDonalds menu it looks amazing.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jul 22, 2011 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's not a bad return for 2 months of Jamey Carroll, is what I'm saying.

Especially given Brewers don’t really have any great prospects right now.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Jul 22, 2011 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I think it’s fair, but the Brewers might be clinging on to him way harder than they should.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jul 22, 2011 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Could be. Especially given that... they don't have any great prospects right now.

Which is why I’d sorta prefer the Dodgers trade Carroll elsewhere, but on other hand not like they’re gonna get much for him regardless.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Jul 22, 2011 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m more a grilled chicken club (no tomato no lettuce) guy myself. It’s more believable. Do the Brewers have a prospect analagous to that sandwich?

by StolenMonkey86 on Jul 22, 2011 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, this could be fun. Who is the prospect equivalent of a 99-cent 6-piece chicken mcnuggets made from mechanically separated chicken?

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Jul 22, 2011 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Trayvon Robinson. If you’re drunk he looks really good but in the morning you wonder what the hell you were thinking.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jul 22, 2011 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I.B. Pollo

Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.

by Pure Azure on Jul 22, 2011 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Anthony Jackson. You can get 50 of ’em for $10.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jul 22, 2011 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

We are all like Dorothy saying goodbye to the Scarecrow at the end of The Wizard of Oz. We’re all wiping away tears, and thinking, “Why am I crying, it’s just Jamey Carr—- ooohhhhh, snifff….”

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Jul 22, 2011 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

It honestly makes me sad to think he could stop being a dodger soon

aww shucks

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jul 22, 2011 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

It just makes me again reference

this song
(sorry)

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Jul 22, 2011 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

looks like Captain America doesn't suck

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jul 22, 2011 3:04 PM PDT reply actions  

I don’t think anyone expected it to

by Josie Becker on Jul 22, 2011 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I do, but I won’t see it anyway.

by Eric Stephen on Jul 22, 2011 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Didn't phil?

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jul 22, 2011 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, never, I’ve defended Marvel Studios at every turn.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jul 22, 2011 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is like the pi question

to make a computer melt down

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Jul 22, 2011 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

hahahah

pi isnt a superhero movie ;D

by mintxcore on Jul 22, 2011 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

batman begins

the dark knight
the rest.

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jul 22, 2011 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

spiderman 2

iron man
The incredibles

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jul 22, 2011 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

really liked the first two xmen ones too

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jul 22, 2011 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

In no particular order

Superman (first)
Dark Knight and/or Batman Begins
Iron Man
Spider-Man 2
The Incredibles :-)
Superman II

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Jul 22, 2011 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like all these and would raise you an X-Men 2

by eitherethier on Jul 22, 2011 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

i felt mixed

with Iron Man. Enjoyed Spider Man 2 thou!

by mintxcore on Jul 22, 2011 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I dislike Iron Man. It was fun and all but it makes no sense. You have to be like Guy Pearce in Memento as you watch that movie, because if you remember any part of the plot as you go along, you’re like, “Why is this happening? It makes no sense.”

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Jul 22, 2011 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

You are wrong about Ratatouille, btw, I’ve decided

by Josie Becker on Jul 22, 2011 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m totally right about Ratatouille. It is a movie about how the filmmakers are geniuses and you’re not.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Jul 22, 2011 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

no it’s not, it’s a movie about how everyone’s a genius, but if you ask a fish to climb a tree it’s gonna be shit at it

by Josie Becker on Jul 22, 2011 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s what it should be about, but it isn’t.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Jul 22, 2011 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I feel like we’ve taken extreme opposite positions about the same thing and I don’t know where to draw the battlefield

by Josie Becker on Jul 22, 2011 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rattatoillie is great

just enjoy it and know that humma is a fool!

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jul 22, 2011 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

but he’s not, is the thing. We’ve both watched the same thing, noticed the same details and come to different conclusions. I’m more curious than anything.

by Josie Becker on Jul 22, 2011 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah but

when you then spend the rest of the night peeing out of your butt….

…er wait, that’s for the jack in the box and del taco arguements…. ;D

by mintxcore on Jul 22, 2011 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think that is an interesting, and arguable, take on that film

that is also a mighty cynical take that I am glad I still don’t have. ;-)

But I can understand that interpretation.

When rewatching it this week mostly I noticed how beautiful the backgrounds were this time, the look is amazing. And the food appreciation really gets me.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Jul 22, 2011 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree, it’s cynical. But it was interesting to see Ratatouille after noticing that element in The Incredibles, too — Dash and his mom get into an argument that ends with Elastigirl saying “Everyone’s special, Dash,” and he says, sarcastically, “Which is another way of saying no one is” — implying that they REALLY ARE special — and that is an idea that goes unchallenged for the rest of the film.

In fact, the non-sarcastic reading of that line is correct. No one is special. You have to treat everybody the same.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Jul 22, 2011 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Anyway, I noticed that in The Incredibles, and it bugged me, and then I (felt like I) saw a whole movie about it in Ratatouille.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Jul 22, 2011 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

but it’s about embracing what makes you exceptional, not about putting down those who aren’t exceptional at what you are. Mr. Incredible’s biggest mistake was not recognizing that Buddy had a gift for inventing.

by Josie Becker on Jul 22, 2011 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, it’s about feeling like you are exceptional and that you deserve recognition, and not just that, but special accommodation because of it.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Jul 22, 2011 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think that Incredibles or Ratatouille argued for special accommodation. I think it said you should find your gift and you should be free to use it.

by Josie Becker on Jul 22, 2011 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

But what about all the other characters in the movies? Take the chick chef in Ratatouille, for example. She’s been working her whole life to be a chef, she’s paid her dues, she’s damn good. Then the fucking rat comes in, and she’s just supposed to be, like, OK, you’re the genius! I’ll back the fuck off! Sorry boss!

That movie takes the phrase “Anyone can cook,” which has an actual meaning (“you may think you can’t cook, but even you, if you learn, can cook”) and perverts it to fit another meaning (“you never know who the genius will turn out to be”). The actual meaning is warm-hearted and generous. The latter meaning is egomaniacal.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Jul 22, 2011 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

The chick chef in Ratatouille is like Natalie Portman in the beginning of Black Swan. She’s worked hard and is damn good, but can’t let herself go into her art. Everyone else in the kitchen knew that sweet bread recipe was horrible, but she was hellbent on sticking to the recipe.

Some people, no matter how much they work at something, are never truly great at it. That’s not egomaniacal, that’s fact. No matter how hard he tries, or how much he bulked up, Tony Gwynn Jr could never be an acceptable replacement for Matt Kemp.

by Josie Becker on Jul 22, 2011 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m not saying that he can.

What I am saying is that if Matt Kemp then came into the clubhouse and started bowling over the Tony Gwynns and saying the Dodgers were going to do things his way — which is what the rat does in Ratatouille — then that would make him an asshole.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Jul 22, 2011 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

But the rat doesn’t do that in Ratatouille. The Rat in Ratatouille knows his swing, and he’s not gonna have some hitting coach tell him that it could be improved.

And maybe it could be improved. But it’s hard to be really good at something if you’re willing to assume you could be wrong.

by Josie Becker on Jul 22, 2011 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

The rat DOES do that in Ratatouille. He makes a fucking nest in a dude’s hair and works him like a puppet! That character has no purpose in the world that the filmmakers set up except to serve the genius.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Jul 22, 2011 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Linguini was a terrible cook, but he was a great small business owner!

by Josie Becker on Jul 22, 2011 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Only because the genius worked there. He owes everything to the genius that works him like a puppet.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Jul 22, 2011 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

he was good on roller skates

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jul 22, 2011 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m happy for him, and I’m sure the rat would be, too, if the rat gave a shit about anybody else, which he doesn’t.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Jul 22, 2011 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

didn't giving a shit about the other rats

land him in trouble? He gave them food!

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jul 22, 2011 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Guess he learns his fucking lesson, then, huh? See what doing for other people gets you? Trouble, that’s what.

The movie sets up entirely false choices in order to make a hero out of an asshole.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Jul 22, 2011 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sounds like early McCourt strategy for the Dodgers.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jul 22, 2011 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Linguini USED Remy! The rat wanted to run away, but Linguini used him so he wouldn’t get fired.

by Josie Becker on Jul 22, 2011 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

codependent

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jul 22, 2011 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

More to the point. He owes everything to the genius.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Jul 22, 2011 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

he’s a talent scout. He recognized someone’s gift and give him a place to use it.

by Josie Becker on Jul 22, 2011 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

You know how talent feels about agents, right? That they do the hard work and THAT GUY gets 10%. For what? Nothin’.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Jul 22, 2011 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s not nothing to negotiate deals and look out for their client’s best interests.

by Josie Becker on Jul 22, 2011 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

That is my point. It is not nothing.

But talent treats it like it is nothing.

And the movie treats it like it is nothing, too. In my opinion, it is a lot to read into Ratatouille that Linguini’s experience proves that each individual can find the thing they are good at and succeed. Really, the movie is only about Remy.

And for all of Linguini’s busting his ass, he wasn’t a success until somebody else used him like a puppet.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Jul 22, 2011 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

hours later, we’ve hashed out all the details, and we still just see them differently

by Josie Becker on Jul 22, 2011 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed to disagree.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Jul 22, 2011 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

You guys rock...

just for bringing this back somehow to the Dodgers. :-)

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by underdog on Jul 22, 2011 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

…in a more agreeable manner than his brother (Charlie Sheen). (Yes, he’s his full brother.)

by berkowit28 on Jul 22, 2011 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

born talent is a cheap notion. I hate it when people say I am a natural sales person. It cheapens the years of effort I have put in hoing my craft.

effort is character

I side with effort

by Hollywood Joe on Jul 22, 2011 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

The lesson learned growing up with the message “everyone has their own special talent”

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jul 22, 2011 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah, people should grow up with the message of “you want something , bust ass”

not, find the thing that makes you special and embrace it….

by Hollywood Joe on Jul 22, 2011 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

wait… i dont have a special power? i just assumed it wouldnt show itself until i turn 30…

by mintxcore on Jul 22, 2011 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

So, if I want something all I gotta do is fart? Damn I have been going about this the wrong way…………………;-)

by Grimjack on Jul 22, 2011 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

*everyone has their talent
*realizing talent takes a ridiculous amount of practice

by Josie Becker on Jul 22, 2011 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Holier than thou?

;)

Yeah very few perfect ones, that’s for sure.

And X-Men 2 could go on list, too, yeah, best of those movies that’s for sure.

Is Hellboy (and II) superhero movie?

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by underdog on Jul 22, 2011 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes

Hellboy 2 would likely top my list. How about Big Man Japan?? haha

by mintxcore on Jul 22, 2011 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

hellboy 2 is a damn fine movie

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jul 22, 2011 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

1) Superman II
t2) every superhero movie with boobs

by Eric Stephen on Jul 22, 2011 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Batman Begins
Iron Man
Superman
Thor
Spiderman

by Josie Becker on Jul 22, 2011 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

THOR?????
Really,
I thought that X-men First Class was better than Thor.
What about Blade. The first one only.

by Grimjack on Jul 22, 2011 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

X-men First Class would have been better than Thor, except it was so fucking concerned with being able to dovetail into the first X-men movie. Really, the entire Hellfire club is gone because you needed to say the word Brotherhood by the end of the film? Not to mention it ret-cons Xavier and Magneto starting the school together.

by Josie Becker on Jul 22, 2011 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

carrying about continuity in comic books or things based on them only leads to madness josie

not that its your fault

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jul 22, 2011 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Back in the early 90s Magneto filled in for Charles and “if I remember correctly” was shown to be a silent partner with Chuck and the school.

by Grimjack on Jul 22, 2011 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Magneto is definitely a dick, but I don’t like how the X-men movies, despite being about the ambiguity of fighting for people who hate you, need to have Magneto be a clear cut enemy. All the work they do showing his troubled past is wasted cause they make him such an unlikable adult

by Josie Becker on Jul 22, 2011 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

like basically, the world would be a better place if the Nazi’s killed Magneto. That’s the worst story ever

by Josie Becker on Jul 22, 2011 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

But that is the thing, Magneto goes from being a “clear cut” bad guy to being the dark side of Wolverine. Magneto has deep ingrained issues that have never truely been sorted out. You can’t just brush him off as the great bad guy. He has tried to go off on his own, and create a stable socioty, only to have others come and hunt him down for his past transgressions.

by Grimjack on Jul 22, 2011 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

all my sympathy for Movie Magneto went out the door when he had no more use for Mystique after she lost her power. I mean come on, even if she’s not psychedelic naked she’s still naked.

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by meercatjohn on Jul 22, 2011 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can’t suspend my disbelief enough to watch superhero movies.

by silverwidow on Jul 22, 2011 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Dark Knight

Kick-Ass
Batman Begins
X-Men
X-2

And I’ll say best soundtrack goes to Tim Burton’s Batman theme.

by StolenMonkey86 on Jul 22, 2011 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

fuck I forgot Kick-Ass. But it only truly works if you’ve seen lots of superhero movies. Like I love Sullivan’s Travels, but it works a lot better if you’ve seen a bunch of old movies

by Josie Becker on Jul 22, 2011 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't know if you need to see a lot of superhero movies

to appreciate a 13 year old girl cursing like a fucking sailor and chopping people up.

by StolenMonkey86 on Jul 22, 2011 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

the original Swedish film was better

by Josie Becker on Jul 22, 2011 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was. But she's great in the remake.

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by underdog on Jul 22, 2011 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think Sullivan’s Travels would work best if it was the only old movie you’d ever seen. You’d be all “fuck, what have I been missing”

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Jul 22, 2011 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh yeah. that one counts! I would add that to my list.

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by underdog on Jul 22, 2011 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

i really have a bad memory

when it comes to superhero movies, which is why i asked for the list. thor, captain america, green latern… just cant get excited about any of those at all.

by mintxcore on Jul 22, 2011 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thor actually tried to do more then most super hero movies I think

whether it did it well or not is up for debate.

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jul 22, 2011 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

does Green Hornet count as a superhero movie? Because that one...

…effing blows.

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by underdog on Jul 22, 2011 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

About as much as the Lone Ranger counts as being a superhero. They both had the same creator.

by Grimjack on Jul 22, 2011 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I didn't like the ending sequence

it broke everything else about the movie for him to be using a rocket launcher and jet pack

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jul 22, 2011 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

ya know

I only listed live action films, but Mask Of The Phantasm was great.

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jul 22, 2011 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

is Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles a superhero movie?

it might be, if so, that one.

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jul 22, 2011 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I watch that movie at least once a month

by NotJoeTorre on Jul 22, 2011 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

1, Daredevil
2, everything else

by fbihop on Jul 22, 2011 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not News

Borders liquidation kinda sucked. I had $70 in gift cards that need to be used. bought a NOLA cookbook and some bargain books (Best American Travel Writing and Comics). Still have $40. huzzha :\

by mintxcore on Jul 22, 2011 3:12 PM PDT reply actions  

I’m thinking of going later on when the temperature drops below 95.

by StolenMonkey86 on Jul 22, 2011 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah that blows

i used my last gift card already but spent money at beginning of year on the rewards club. Good timing. Still gonna go use that and grab some 40% off stuff at the one store still left in SF.

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by underdog on Jul 22, 2011 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

right now

fiction is 10% off. some books are 20%. off list price. not much of a discount.

by mintxcore on Jul 22, 2011 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

they’ll still have their online store, n’est ce pas?

by Josie Becker on Jul 22, 2011 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

they do

they have USED books there, im gonna see if i can use my giftcards on those suckers…

by mintxcore on Jul 22, 2011 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah that is lame

though with my reward club thing they say i can get additional discounts on some items.

but man for someone desperate to move inventory you’d think they’d be less greedy at this point.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Jul 22, 2011 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the reminder, forget we had gift cards. One of the perks of being an elementary teacher is that the parents are fairly giving at Xmas and end of school year. I doubt that Junior and Senior High teachers get much from parents other then blow jobs.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jul 22, 2011 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

is that before or after they get the phone number?

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by Pure Azure on Jul 22, 2011 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nats lineup

per Adam Kilgore of the Washington Post:

Bernadina CF
Espinosa 2B
Zimmerman 3B
Morse 1B
Werth RF
Nix LF
Ramos C
Desmond SS
Lannan P

by Eric Stephen on Jul 22, 2011 3:17 PM PDT reply actions  

Oh there's a game? ;-)

Gonna finally see HP tonight so will catch game on the rewind (or rebound or whatever).

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by underdog on Jul 22, 2011 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Before you read the game thread, do a search for the number of times the word “fuck” appears. If it’s more than 10, don’t read the thread.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Jul 22, 2011 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good advice!

I may do that before deciding whether to watch tape of the game.

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by underdog on Jul 22, 2011 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fuck!

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Jul 22, 2011 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

this blows away NL West lineups

Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.

by Pure Azure on Jul 22, 2011 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Desmond sucks, they should move Espinosa back to SS.

by NotJoeTorre on Jul 22, 2011 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I saw the Nats game where they blew an 8 run lead to the Cubs

I got up to go to the bathroom and get a beer (they had Newcastle on draft), and the lead was almost all gone.

Davey Johnson not only left Livan in to give up a billion hits, but also ordered Espinosa to bunt in the top of the 9th with a man on first. Espinosa couldn’t get the bunt down after 2 attempts, and then took a ball and struck out on the next pitch.

I’ve seen Espinosa homer at Nats Park and Camden Yards.

by StolenMonkey86 on Jul 22, 2011 3:22 PM PDT reply actions  

Federal Baseball with a transcript of Vin Scully telling the story of how Livan Hernandez defected. Since Hernandez won’t be going this series, worth a look.

by StolenMonkey86 on Jul 22, 2011 3:29 PM PDT reply actions  

The real one or the one Livan told? I love he original one he told, about shark infested waters and how his little dingy was full of women on their periods, it was hilarious. Then it came out that he was actually on a pretty sizable boat and he was like, “Oh, um… yea, or it happened like that.”

by EMDarrow on Jul 22, 2011 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Take all top 100 lists, and throw them out.

Everyone else is the list.

by Eric Stephen on Jul 22, 2011 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sounds like a sandwich

I’ll have a large Scarpetta, Cody-style

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Jul 22, 2011 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

his last name

is Italian for a small shoe or cleaning one’s plate with bread i.e. pasta sauce. True story.

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by Pure Azure on Jul 22, 2011 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

The real (super)heroes

Gwynn LF
Furcal SS
Ethier RF
Kemp CF
Rivera 1B
Uribe 3B
Barajas C
Carroll 2B
Kuroda P

by Eric Stephen on Jul 22, 2011 3:43 PM PDT reply actions  

Look, up on that ridge…………………………..
It is the Great Lakes Avengers.
.
.
.
Yes, that is a comic book reference, look it up.

by Grimjack on Jul 22, 2011 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I will not look it up

by Eric Stephen on Jul 22, 2011 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

But, But, But, you might get a laugh out of it.

by Grimjack on Jul 22, 2011 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Last game for Kuroda and/or Carroll?

by dodgers4life on Jul 22, 2011 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

This could be Kuroda’s last start, not necessarily game in uniform.

by silverwidow on Jul 22, 2011 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kuroda isn’t getting traded before the 31st because all GMs are cowards.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jul 22, 2011 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

You think it’s a 100% he starts for us on 7/27?

by silverwidow on Jul 22, 2011 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wouldn’t bet my life on it, but yes.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jul 22, 2011 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Unless he gets hurt tonight.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jul 22, 2011 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bottom line is we should shop any and all offers.

by silverwidow on Jul 22, 2011 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

this isnt meant to be political

but imagine how much better the world would be if Eric Stephen was writing the headlines for the debt talks right now:

“Boehner Shrinks After Long Meeting”
“Could Debt Talks Result in a Boehner Killer?”

by mintxcore on Jul 22, 2011 3:58 PM PDT reply actions  

Isn’t it pronounced BAY-ner?

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jul 22, 2011 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

“Boehner Refuses to Touch Ceiling”?

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jul 22, 2011 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Boehner in talks for 4 hours, then collapses

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Jul 22, 2011 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

“Boehner Leaves Before Debt Talks Climax”

by mintxcore on Jul 22, 2011 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

“Mispronouncing Boehner On Purpose Leads to Many Phallic Jokes”

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Jul 22, 2011 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

The one in the NY Times was, presumably unintentionally, along similar lines...

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by underdog on Jul 22, 2011 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would feel bad about missing best comic book movie if we hadn’t done it 10 times before and are sure to do it again. Just glad Chris Evans was picked to be Captain America, he, Thor, and Iron Man should have some great screen moments in the Avengers.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jul 22, 2011 4:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Perfect timing. Saving us from more boner “jokes”.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jul 22, 2011 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well played.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jul 22, 2011 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dave

prefers boob jokes ;D

by mintxcore on Jul 22, 2011 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Those aren’t jokes. And you mean ;DD.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Jul 22, 2011 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

now that it's a dead thread

Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.

by Pure Azure on Jul 22, 2011 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

amen

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 22, 2011 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

They’ll eventually touch the ground if she lives forever.

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by David Young on Jul 22, 2011 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

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2B/3B 3 Kennedy $800,000
OF/1B 30 Sands $375,175
IF 13 DeJesus $448,992
C 18 Treanor $850,000

SP 22 Kershaw $6,000,000
SP 58 Billingsley $9,000,000
SP 29 Lilly $12,000,000
SP 44
Harang $3,000,000
SP 35 Capuano $3,000,000

CL 74
Jansen $491,000
RHP 52 Lindblom $483,000
RHP 51 Belisario $414,426
RHP 54 Guerra $488,000
RHP 28
Wright $900,000
LHP 57 Elbert $488,500
RHP 60 Coffey $1,000,000

DL 27 Kemp $10,000,000
DL 21 Rivera $4,000,000
DL 12 Sellers $481,000
DL 5 Uribe $8,000,000
DL 55 Guerrier $4,750,000
DL 14 Ellis $2,500,000
60DL 36 Hawksworth $495,000
60DL 41 De La Rosa $485,000

AA 50 Eovaldi $7,885
AAA 56 Antonini $7,869



Manny $8,087,432 deferred


Andruw $3,375,000 deferred


Pierre $3,050,000 deferred
Furcal $3,000,000 deferred
Kuroda $2,000,000 deferred
Garland $1,500,000 option buyout
Blake $1,250,000 option buyout
DFA 66 MacDougal $650,000

Totals
$115,942,869

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Current 40-man roster count: 42
(incl. De La Rosa & Hawksworth)

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Manager

Eric___ned___reporters_2011_trade_deadline_small Eric Stephen

Editors

100_1427_small Phil Gurnee

Dgy_small David Young

Hanauma_bay_small Chad Moriyama

2501_small Michael White

Raptors_small Brandon Lennox

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