Best Game in Town
by meercatjohn on Jul 25, 2011 12:33 PM PDT
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PrintI'm not talking Dodger baseball, I'm talking about Xeifrank's sideboard contest / game that doesn't get enough action from our membership group. I will lay some of the blame on our feet as we do not promote the game like we should. TBLA is extremely lucky that Xeifrank has decided to use TBLA as his arena for promoting his simulator. The amount of work he puts into this on a daily basis staggers me when you consider what he gets out of it. He may not even want more action then he's getting, but I at least want to put the word out that if you are not playing this game, you are missing out.
When Xeifrank first started the simulation contest last year it was a simple fare. He gave you the top 100 outcomes of the upcoming game based on his simulator. The contest involved picking the one you felt was going to be the score for the game and you got points awarded based on where that score was in the simulation. It was a simple no brainer game that a gin soaked bag of bones was able to win the 2010 contest.
In an effort to make it harder, Xeifrank added in some complexity that I was not fond of so I stopped playing. It seemed like too much work for me, and I mentioned that a few times. The hardcore players told me I was wrong and basically said GFM and leave them alone to play their game. Chagrined but still looking for a way to add some drama to the game threads I tried to incorporate some contests in our own threads with TBLA dollars being awarded for various things. That has pretty much been a failure.
A few weeks ago on a whim I popped over to one of Xeifrank's game contest threads and found that Xeifrank had taken his game to a level that I applauded. He still has the game simulator going but now he gives you starting betting points per month (100) and you can now bet on Over/Under props or odd based prop bets. You decide yourself how much to bet, you can bet nothing or go all in. These are the new rules:
July Rules:
There will be eight questions. Five of them will have even money odds, the other three will have higher paying odds. You may answer any amount of the questions as you'd like and wager any amount as long as your wagers don't go over your remaining bankroll. Every person starts out with 100 points to wager with. A wrong guess loses points and a correct guess wins points (odds will always be whole number). You still pick the game score from the table of scores. Each game score has odds associated with it. You will be given a free 5 unit bet on the game score. If you pick the correct game score you win 5 times the odds for that score. For questions where a starting position player is the answer, I will allow guesses of "starting SS" instead of "Dee Gordon". But if you guess a players name, then that is your final guess. I will keep a Google Docs spreadsheet keeping track of everyone's bankroll. As people play for the first time, I will add them to the spreadsheet. A minimum of 250 units must be risked over the month to be eligible for the title.
This is more my style, I can't say enough how much I love how this contest has evolved. Here is what today's prop bets are:
Actual Contest Questions
A. O/U Total Runs Scored: 6.5 (1:1)
B. O/U Dodgers runs minus Rockies runs: 0.5 (1:1)
C. O/U Matt Kemp Total bases plus stolen bases: 2.5 (1:1)
D. O/U Dodgers hits minus Rubby De la Rosa strikeouts: 1.5 (1:1)
E. O/U Rubby De la Rosa HRs Allowed: 0.5 (1:1)F. (Prop bet) Juan Uribe gets an RBI: (2:1)
G. (Prop bet) Andre Ethier or James Loney hit a HR: (3:1)
H. (Prop bet) Rubby De la Rosa strikes out 10 or more batters: (5:1)
Check it out, if you love to gamble and what baseball numbers person does not like to gamble, then I think you will be pleasantly surprised with what Xeifrank has come up with. Even with one week to go you have plenty of time to try to dethrone me as current champ. With bets like these you can easily turn 100 points into 345 in a just a few games.
For lurkers who don't feel they have anything to say in our threads, this contest is a good place to dip your toes into the TBLA murky waters of interaction. No off topic stuff happening over there, just good old fashioned betting, without having to worry about how to buy those shoes tomorrow because you felt Rubby was going to K 10 batters tonight.
I honestly can't see any of the current rabble dethroning me so Xeifrank needs some new blood to take a crack at me.
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This photo is rather amazing
thanks to Hot Clicks on SI.com:
by Eric Stephen on Jul 25, 2011 12:43 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
eh, guess I should read comments first before jokemaking
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interesting article on Baseball Nation
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 25, 2011 12:47 PM PDT reply actions
While I don’t think he’s what the Giants need, I’d be very happy to have an Upton playing for us.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
by meercatjohn on Jul 25, 2011 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
i'd like to see what he could do
with a change of scenary.
I actually didn’t know that about Tropicana field. I thought it was a more neutral park.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 25, 2011 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions
The most amusing part of this post
is all the non-baseball comments it will get before the series/game preview post comes up later this afternoon.
the floodgates are open
the switch has been flipped
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 25, 2011 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Start the reactor
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
by G.Scott on Jul 25, 2011 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Open
your miiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnndddddd
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 25, 2011 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Xei's simulator skills are awesoke
but the game doesn’t really seem like something I could really do.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 25, 2011 12:52 PM PDT reply actions
You can still just guess the score too. If your score hits. you could even end up winning. And if you do something really smart or dumb you might even get a song dedication. :)
I didn’t start betting until last week.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
I’m now in 1st place.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
G Scott was first when i started.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
Criminey
Even keithc13 won one month
what’s the point then if someone from ArKansas can win the bloody contest?
Why I bet if the Cal folk put their collective heads together they could muster up a monthly win.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
The consensus in my head is “what is that?”
by Eric Stephen on Jul 25, 2011 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Song by the Clash.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
Huh, it’s even on London Calling. Chalk this one up to an Eric Fail.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 25, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Hardly, he asking about a song 32 years old, a band that hasn’t played together in 26 years, and you are supposed to know he’s referencing that song?
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
A song that everyone calls Stand By Me.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jul 25, 2011 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I made an old dude feel old today. Three of us in the elevator, he turns to the other gentleman and says “I’ve known so and so since the mid-80s”. I said “I was born in the mid-80s, what do I win?”
I’ve only ever heard Lock the Cashbox and Should I Stay Or Should I Go by the Clash, and the latter I first heard in Iron Man.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
What’d I say?
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
Rock The Casbah
The song you think you mentioned has a different name.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 25, 2011 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions
youtube is blocked, help a brotha out.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
unless you linked to the Casbah video
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
i did go into my ipod and only find those two songs though.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
Those two, plus London Calling (the song), and your Clash thirst will be quenched.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 25, 2011 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
crash course
their first album (self-titled) including White Man in Hammersmith Palais on the UK version, then London Calling, Combat Rock and most of Sandinista!
THE WHOLE ALBUMS.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
My pat answer to that quip from you utes is “paying for my social security the rest of your life while I’m laying in the sun with a drink in my hand”.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
you need to finish it
….and by the time you finally get to my age, you will die of skin cancer because of all the hairspray I used in 1972
by Hollywood Joe on Jul 25, 2011 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Wait until we’re 35 and run for office and get that shit cancelled like Firefly.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
when you’re 35, we will be the ones voting, you aint got the numbers
maybe you kill it when you are 55, but then you are a victim and not the perp
by Hollywood Joe on Jul 25, 2011 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions
and by that time i’ll be closer to collecting than not, so I’ll want to keep it.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
that’s what I was saying in my 70’s tv cop jargon
by Hollywood Joe on Jul 25, 2011 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I miss TJ Hooker.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
wrong decade, that was watered down cop show, got to get to the source
btw – helped heather locklear several times when I was working at Nordstrom 20 years ago. She was all that
by Hollywood Joe on Jul 25, 2011 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
She was my dream girl for a bit when she was on Spin City.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
That was probably the damn near perfect time to “help” Ms. Locklear.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 25, 2011 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Dude
I sang that at the first TBLA Karaoke Night!
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I was probably eating some Chef Art pizza.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 25, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions
not close to their best song
but OK. I’d rather listen to it than “Should I Stay or Should I Go?” a millionth time.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
I'm not creative enough to make this up
There is a 3B 2012 draft prospect expected to go in the top 10 named Joey Gallo. 2015 TBLA headlines, you’re welcome.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
Is there some Gallos humor I'm missing?
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Quickipedia
Joseph Gallo (April 7, 1929 – April 7, 1972), also known as “Crazy Joey” and “Joe the Blond”, was a New York City gangster for the Profaci crime family, later known as the Colombo crime family. Gallo and his crew initiated one of the bloodiest mob conflicts since the Castellammarese War of 1931.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
I assumed you were referring to "My Cousin Vinny"
by Michael White on Jul 25, 2011 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions
My Cousin Vinny referenced Joey Gallo, so yeah, I was.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
never saw that movie
funny, but I love gangster movies, but comedies with stereotypical italians are a little close to home
by Hollywood Joe on Jul 25, 2011 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions
If you watch Cousin Vinny I think you’d change your mind.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
I probably would
I love Marisa Tomei a little bit
by Hollywood Joe on Jul 25, 2011 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions
One of my favorites.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
love all three of those movies
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 25, 2011 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions
This movie started the love
If anyone tells me that her scene at the end is not one of the greatest hostile witness scenes in movie history, I say they should burn in hell.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
If anyone tells me that her scene at the end is not one of the greatest hostile witness scenes in movie history, I say they should burn in hell.
But would you say this under oath, in a court of law?
by Eric Stephen on Jul 25, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
“Yes they deserved to die and I hope they burn in hell”
Different movie, very good hostile witness scene
by Michael White on Jul 25, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Was that the first “Samuel L. Jackson yells his line” movie?
Or I suppose that came after Pulp Fiction. I’m getting my timeline mixed up.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 25, 2011 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Samuel Jackson had a small role in a movie called the Red Violin. Loved that movie but not sure it would be the cup of tea of many here.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
I don’t like movies that start with Red unless they end with Dawn.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 25, 2011 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Redemption: The Stan Tookie Williams Story
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
the only williams I know is “Football”
by Hollywood Joe on Jul 25, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions
He’s the dude who started the Crips.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
I was just looking to work a “Football” Williams reference in…also a 8 Tray Crip if I am keeping my nefarious felons of LA in order
by Hollywood Joe on Jul 25, 2011 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions
I thought I saw they were re-making that, I’m guessing the bad guys will be Chinese Loan Shark baddies instead of Cuban revolutionaries.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
Red Awn.
or Re-Done.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
by G.Scott on Jul 25, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
strangely enough, I knew that one before you posted it
by Hollywood Joe on Jul 25, 2011 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Castellammarese seems an unnecessarily long, yet still awesome name for a war.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 25, 2011 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions
References:
Gansters
Wine
Italians
Roosters
Hangings
Pico de…
what am I missing here?
by Hollywood Joe on Jul 25, 2011 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions
the ‘g’ in Gangsters. Would’ve been funnier if you forgot the n.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
Gansters are the group of loyal fans of former Las Vegas showman Danny Gans.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 25, 2011 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions
how can a comment be
both terrible and great?
by Hollywood Joe on Jul 25, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I shit you not
from UrbanDictionary
Ganster: A person who is part of the mafia. Not to be confused with gansta. Known to wear suits and carry guns in guitar cases.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
those urban people are purposefully dumb
me on the other hand, it appears that I am accidently brilliant
by Hollywood Joe on Jul 25, 2011 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m impressed you knew Crazy Joey, I figured you were working the Ernest and Julio angle
by Hollywood Joe on Jul 25, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Bah. Xeifrank’s contests just clutter up the fanpost sidebar so I can’t find Humma’s limericks. Otherwise, I’m sure I’d see them.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
by Nolij on Jul 25, 2011 1:21 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
You can’t find Humma’s limericks because the lazy fuck stopped writing them. No staying power.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
Brandon was right about Humma’s frame.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 25, 2011 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Padres beat the Philadelphia Lees today 5-4
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
I imagine so. What do you think, +170?
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
Higher
Around +215. Phillies were nearly 69% favorites. There are a lot of big favorites in today’s games.
1. Royals vs Red Sox (72.38%)
2. Padres vs Phillies (68.75%)
3. Mariners vs Yankees (66.89%)
4. Pirates vs Braves (64.85%)
5. Astros vs Cardinals (64.85%)
6. Twins vs Rangers (62.76%)
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Anything above 60% is a solid favorite in baseball. Anything above 65% is a big favorite and anything above 70% is a huge favorite. My simulator results all match these Vegas numbers above fairly close. I think all are fair odds.
[not a joke]
Dave Cameron has serious health situation:
http://www.ussmariner.com/2011/07/25/when-statistics-are-not-helpful/comment-page-4/#comment-419667
Tripon'd
Jon had it much earlier:
http://espn.go.com/blog/los-angeles/dodger-thoughts/post/_/id/15322/best-wishes-to-dave-cameron
Ok, let me re-phrase it
a little more PC-ish.
Mariners gonna kick some ass tonight!
They are going to get their asses handed to them for the 16th straight time tonight.
holy crap
Kirk Minihane
The Sox have five regulars (Gonzalez, Ortiz, Pedroia, Ellsbury, Youkilis) with an OPS over .870. The rest of the American League has six.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
and 3 of those are home grown?
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
That is worth a holy crap. To even things out for the rest of the league they should take Lilly/Uribe/Guerrier off our hands.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
by meercatjohn on Jul 25, 2011 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I miss the days when we’d endlessly debate whether Stults should be our #5 starter. I always saw him as more of a #4 :)
Not to mention the Stultz / Stoltz debate.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 25, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions
now that
would be something
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 25, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I thought DBacks were the frontrunners?!
/bowden
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Eh. Wasn't that great.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
PS of those teams, would you say Rangers would have the best fits for LA in their farm system?
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
fuck the rangers
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
I said Rangers, not Carlos Ruiz.
Oh, you root for the Angels, too, don’t you? Eh, that’s your problem. ;-)
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
The Rangers have the most prospects.
It could also end in us unironically trading for Chris Davis though.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jul 25, 2011 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Rangers seem like the best fit given the prospects and location. Hopefully teams like the Yankees and Red Sox become more interested so we can get a better return.
by dodgers4life on Jul 25, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Is that a bad thing?
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
In 6 months when Chris Davis is the starting 3B and we have no other options, and he’s hitting .160/.280/.400 in spring training, we’ll all have to hear how terrible Ned is at his job for trading for the guy we all wanted.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
I think so. Huge PCL numbers sure but he’s 25, still strikes out a ton, and somehow only has 11 walks in 210 PA despite there being zero incentive to pitch to him. I don’t think he’s gonna be much different than what we’ve seen from him in the past.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jul 25, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Okay, well I'd rather have Profar too but don't see the Rangers trading him for a rental.
We’ll see. I would think a change of scenery could help Davis, except going from Texas to a pitcher’s park and division would be even more challenging for him. So, yeah, I can see the downside.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
I'm hoping
for a Michael Morse type breakout. Just give him the chance.
I certainly acknowledge Reg’s scenario happening though.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 25, 2011 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Well yeah, no way in hell we’re getting Profar, but I’d rather get someone with someone that’s under 25.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jul 25, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions
McCourts gonna reveal his entire ownership was ironic.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jul 25, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Frank will wake up in bed with Suzanne Pleshette and realize it was all a bad dream?
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
when he sells the team for 0 profit after the BK pays off his debts.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
I feel more like Ann and Nancy Wilson singing Barracuda.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
isn’t he hurt?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 25, 2011 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions
You’re the guy in fantasy baseball who has the max 5 pending trade proposals out at all times, aren’t you?
I can’t tell if you actually like any of the people suggested as returns, or if you really just want to see some action.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
Rosenthal isn’t owned by Boras and didn’t invent the Mystery Team.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jul 25, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Agree.
"It takes a special fan to root for a last place moribund bankrupt franchise."
by Little Blue Bicycle on Jul 25, 2011 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Andrew Marchand on ESPN New York.com says
Los Angeles Dodgers starter Hiroki Kuroda will consider waiving his no-trade clause if he were traded to the New York Yankees or Boston Red Sox, according to a baseball official with knowledge of the situation.
There is a common perception that Kuroda only wants to remain in Los Angeles, but the official said that is a “myth” and Kuroda will consider his options, if dealt.
If he really wanted to re-sign in LA for 2012, he’d only waive his NTC if the Dodgers were getting someone who could start next year.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
I don’t get the Favre comp. Not one bit.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
agreed. I wouldn’t want to go from a shitty team in LA to a shitty team in the Midwest
KCAL! FTMFW!
by robotmadeofnails on Jul 25, 2011 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions
But we didn't know in particular Yankees or Red Sox were okay
(also makes me wonder if Detroit is not okay, which would not surprise me.)
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
The Yankees are willing to give up top catching prospect Jesus Montero in the right trade
That would make things more interesting, although I suppose the “right trade” might involve a lot more than Hiro.
"It takes a special fan to root for a last place moribund bankrupt franchise."
by Little Blue Bicycle on Jul 25, 2011 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions
"right trade" would include Ethier too probably
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
Yankees want lefty relief—wish Kuo was in a better place.
"It takes a special fan to root for a last place moribund bankrupt franchise."
by Little Blue Bicycle on Jul 25, 2011 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Yah. If he was in good shape this year of course part of me would want to hang on to him, but
since he’s been having a messy season he isn’t tradeable anyway.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
If Kuroda really wants to help out the Dodgers, then he should be dealt to a team so we can get a potential good prospect (B, B-) that may help out the team in the future. Then we’ll re-sign him to another 1-year deal in 2012 and win the WS. The season has been shot anyway. Come on HK!
by Julio Nievas on Jul 25, 2011 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions
he took a pay cut once to come back
i’m sure he’d do it again.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 25, 2011 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Only wild card I see is the identity of the Dodgers’ GM in 2012. Ned’s done everything to say he wants to resign him next year except buy billboards.
"It takes a special fan to root for a last place moribund bankrupt franchise."
by Little Blue Bicycle on Jul 25, 2011 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Or he can live like a king for the rest of his life and not worry about any of this BS.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jul 25, 2011 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions
he could sign for another $12mil and live Kingier.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
We really don’t know. Sure he might be willing to do it again or maybe he’ll say “I gave up a ton of money to play for you, then you traded me anyway, slag off”.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jul 25, 2011 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions
What’s the fair market value for a 37 year old #3 starter? My guess is it was a deal this year, but what he deserves for next year.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
He’s going to enter a market where the best pitchers are CJ Wilson and Edwin Jackson. Dude could easily get Ted Lilly money.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jul 25, 2011 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions
So, he’s Derek Lowe of 2008.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
wasn’t that the case last year as well though? Besides Cliff Lee that is.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 25, 2011 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions
And he took a discounted contract to stay close to home. He might be cool with it, or he might be upset that we strongly suggested he waive his no trade clause. I don’t know Kuroda so I can’t say.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jul 25, 2011 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions
he’s also having his worst season. Sure his peripherals are in the mid-3’s and although all his bad ratios are up and the good ones are down, they’re still good/good-ish, his velocity is down and I’m not sure how much longer he’ll be worth even the 2012. Having watched him this year, I think he’s getting lucky with LOB and this time next year we’ll be most thankful that he only signed a 1 year deal.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
Can’t tell if you were responding to me with this or not. It’d be in Hiroki’s best interest to go to a winner if we get some actual help for 2012. If it’s a B- prospect, the team he re-signs with will be just as jacked up as this one.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
This wasn’t a response to you.
And my comment was also a bit tongue in cheek.
by Julio Nievas on Jul 25, 2011 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions
worst part of the NFL lockout ending
is that I realize Hank Williams Jr. still exists.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
i've been away from my computer for most of the day
but I saw phil’s recommendation for a Robinson vs Sands poll so I put one up as a fan post. Feel free to cast your vote here
Sands busting Trayvons chops. I wonder if that is because we liked what we saw of Sands in his brief stay?
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
Was Robinson pulled from today’s game or is he injured?
by dodgers4life on Jul 25, 2011 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions
@AbqTopes:
Things are getting chippy here at The Lab. Z’s pitcher Koehler throws behind Sellers’ head, gets ejected. Trayvon Robinson also ejectedAll I got.
I loved his arm and his eye
His swing, not so much. His arm was the deciding factor since I hear Tray’s arm is middling at best.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
I said Sands because he hasn’t struck out 113 times this year.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jul 25, 2011 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Same here. I think Trayvon is going to end up being something like Austin Jackson. Maybe a little more power.
"Fast just got Faster"
ha ha, if only these guys panned out to be these guys that some guys think suck.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
You’re saying a guys floor probably won’t be an average center fielder?
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jul 25, 2011 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Was reading some dumb top-ten list of best left fielders of all time and when it came to Carl Yastrzemski it said that Yaz didn’t have as good numbers as Ted Williams.
No shit.
Please for very little money so we can make Chris Reed sign for a drink.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jul 25, 2011 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions
There is an active day requirement to count as a season
But it would not matter anyway, if Bauer did sign a MLB deal, if he pitches at all in the minors, he will use one option.
So Mr. UCLA Long Toss
got a MLB contract from the Diamondbacks. That probably did not sit well with MLB.
dbacks signed their #3 overall pick to a major league contract
hate those so much.. good luck az.
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jul 25, 2011 3:25 PM PDT reply actions
Crasnick
A person who knows Hiroki Kuroda says he’s not into "hypotheticals,‘’ so he’ll make a call when deal is presented to him. #dodgers #trades
A person who knows Hiroki Kuroda says he’s not into "hypotheticals,‘’ so he’ll make a call when deal is presented to him. #dodgers #trades
oops
Kuroda is keeping an open mind. No lists. No "I won’t go theres.’’ No one will know until a deal is brought before him. #trades #dodgers
by Julio Nievas on Jul 25, 2011 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Photo from Rockies beat writer
from the tallest point at Dodgers Stadium. Cool stuff. One day I will actually get to see a Dodgers game at Dodgers Stadium…
This was actually in the third inning of Tuesday’s game.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
Oh behave!
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I had a mini-plan in those seats last year. Those are kind of my favorite cheap seats. Sure, i’d take field level, but not for the coin I need to shell out for four of us. I always have these debates with people – better to go to a dozen games and sit in nose-bleed, or just one or two, and get good seats. I always go for quantity over quality, I guess.
by TopDeckTrueBlue on Jul 25, 2011 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Something 90% of men have learned how to do just fine.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jul 25, 2011 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I have 60 Aloe Vera plants at your beck and call.
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at this point, it’s too painful to tske my hand out of the bowl of water
by Josie Becker on Jul 25, 2011 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions
We need a TBLA poll on how Josie burned her right hand?
A. She got to close to the flame
B. Friction is a bitch
C. I need people much more clever then myself to fill this up
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
hmmm
well we know she wasn’t manhandling Andre cos he’s ice cold.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
Somehow, Chef Art and an overcooked Pepperoni was involved.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
Chocolate melts at 86 degrees
I tend to just but a bowl (stainless steel) over a pot of hot water and let it sit. It could have been worst, sugar melts at around 200 degrees, that gives a nasty burn.
Use an ice pack on the hand.
I was going to go witht he old M&Ms gag, but I am not that guy anymore. Melting chocolate that goes well with a number of dishes. Are you making Mole?
they came out delicious too, after i came too and could get them in the oven. i tried to keep baking after i burned myself, so my body made me feel faint
by Josie Becker on Jul 25, 2011 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions
my hands are kinda blistery right now, one popped during the burning, nut i’ll live
by Josie Becker on Jul 25, 2011 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Eugenio lives
Furcal SS
Miles 3B
Ethier RF
Kemp CF
Rivera LF
Loney 1B
Navarro C
Velez 2B
De La Rosa P
Must be trying to pimp his trade value, either that or Carrol was just traded for Ryan Braun and Prince Fielder.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
That said, if Carroll is traded and they give his ab’s to Velez instead of DeJesus, I’m going to be silverback irritated.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
Until I see for myself just how sucky DeJesus can be.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
I'd almost guarantee he can't be as sucky as Velez.
Granted relatively SSS with both but from what I’ve seen of each, IDJ can at least be mediocre or slightly better. Velez is very fast, and very Teh Suck.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
ugh
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 25, 2011 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Rivera is going to play most of the time for now, either at LF or 1B
by Eric Stephen on Jul 25, 2011 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Because it is the most important story of the day
ESPN is giving 3 hours (7-10 pm EDT) to covering the ending of the lockout and the new free agency rules for 2011.
Bad guys
Fowler CF
Ellis 2B
Helton 1B
Tulowitzki SS
Smith RF
Wigginton LF
Stewart 3B
Iannetta C
Nicasio P
CarGone?
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
There are plants and birds and rocks and things.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
I think there may be buildings too. I think
by Julio Nievas on Jul 25, 2011 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions
http://www.moreno-valley.ca.us/community/about/city-history.shtml
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it's just south
of Bumfuck
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
by mleadman on Jul 25, 2011 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
For most of the 1990s and 2000s, it was one of the fastest-growing locales in the state if not the country. Kind of a meh place though. Not quite the meth haven that San Bernardino is, but not the best place in the world either.
Can likely get a decent sized house for cheap though.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 25, 2011 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions
DKnobler
While Rays have told teams they will not move Shields, they are willing to discuss Niemann or Davis. #tradedeadline
Ned should flip Kuroda prospect(s) into one of these guys, amirite?
is a SP really something Rays need anyway?
I know they’re teetering on brink of buyer/seller too.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Does Montana still have the speed limit-less roads?
by Eric Stephen on Jul 25, 2011 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Don’t think horse riding is in my future. the horses wouldn’t be all that happy with me and their backs
I’m guessing this means you are a large guy. If this is the case then I suggest a mule. A lot of places that offer horseback riding also have mules. Same basic experience from what I understand (I’m a skinny city guy but I know many hunters who use horses and mules).
anything outdoorsy
I mean YellowStone for gods sake.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
Just a hint, do not throw empty bottles at mother bears
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
by meercatjohn on Jul 25, 2011 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
when I was in HS, my dad brought me buffalo jerky. Chips of death or something like that. The hottest jerky i’ve ever had. Instant regret when you bite into it. Gonna get a lot of that when I’m there.
also my aunt has her own farm, in which they raise their own animals for food.
Family BBQ
Menu: Anything that is alive 2 hours before cooking it.
What are people's thoughts regarding Ethier + Kuroda
for Montero and at least one other C level prospect, if they have any worth going for? Ethier is not going to be too expensive and his power should really benefit from playing in NYS. The only problem is the Yankee’s crowded outfield.
I’m not into hypotheticals
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
If the Yankees weren’t gonna trade their best prospect for Kuroda, they aren’t gonna do it for Kuroda and a guy that doesn’t fit anywhere.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jul 25, 2011 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Both are positions of need, but McGahee is played out, but Heap may have a few miles left on the tread.
A pass catching TE is what Miami needs. It has been a long time between players that can fill that roll.
they were good when they had Shockey.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
those miami lineups where insane when you consider how much future nfl talent was on them
andre johnson, reggie wayne, clinton portis, mcgahee, frank gore, shockey, Ed Reed, Kellen Winslow, Sean Taylor where all playing for them either in 2001 or 2002. Crazy
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
That may be true but I don’t see him being that good of a player going forward. That’s all I’m really saying.
Sal would win the free tickets at tonight’s Lookouts game.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
He should have said coincided with Eric Stephen present
Tony Jackson tweets
Mattingly just pointed out two-game winning streak has coincided with @dylanohernandez taking days off. Good chance for another win tonight
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