No-Trade Clauses Rule The Day At Dodger Stadium
The phrase of the day at Dodger Stadium is "no-trade clause." The Dodgers are close to a deal with St. Louis for Rafael Furcal, pending Furcal waiving his no-trade rights. However, that will likely be the biggest deal for the Dodgers at the trade deadline, as Hiroki Kuroda has informed the team that he will remain a Dodger through the end of 2011.
Kuroda said he likes his teammates and a key factor in staying was continuing to play with many of the same guys with which he began his Dodger career in 2008. "I, like any player here, would like to win and I know how it feels to pitch in the playoffs. I know how exciting that can be, so I had to really fight to come to this conclusion," Kuroda said through interpreter Kenji Namura.
"In a way it's refreshing. He made a commitment to stay here, and he wanted to fulfill that commitment. It's certainly not something you'd shake your head against," said general manager Ned Colletti, who said he would have been surprised had Kuroda decided to waive his no trade.
Kuroda also said he hasn't yet decided on whether to return next season or to return to Japan. Colletti elaborated on Kuroda's time as a Dodger:
"He's been good for us, the four years he's been here. He's been a great example for our younger guys. He's helped Kershaw develop; I think their friendship has been a plus. When he goes out there, you got a chance to compete every single time. If he wants to come back here next year, we've seen enough through the four years that we'd certainly be interested in bringing him back once he decides what he wants to do."
Colletti wouldn't comment on specific details of the Furcal trade, other than to say there were a "handful of issues" before the deal is complete. Colletti did say he has a pretty good feel of the player or players in return, but wouldn't specify since the deal isn't yet official. When asked if approval from baseball (for $1 million or more changing hands) was one of the issues, Colletti repeated that there were a handful of issues.
"It's hard. You got your house, you have your family, you play for six years in the same city," Furcal said as he held court with reporters before the game. Furcal danced around the question of a trade, saying that he would know more after discussing the situation with his agent. The trade, if it goes through, won't be completed until Sunday.
As expected, Colletti confirmed that if Furcal does move Dee Gordon will be recalled, and that the team is not likely to move fellow middle infielders Jamey Carroll and Aaron Miles. Colletti characterized the farm system as pitching heavy, and that the focus, when looking for potential trades, has been position players. Though there doesn't expect to be any other deals by the Dodgers before tomorrow's deadline, Colletti admitted things get a little more hectic in the last hour or so before tomorrow's 1 p.m. PDT deadline. "All of a sudden everyone finds your phone number," Colletti joked.
Blake & Uribe Change Places
Before the game tonight, the Dodgers activated Casey Blake from the 15-day DL, and placed Juan Uribe on the disabled list with a left hip strain. Blake hasn't played since July 2, spending most of the month on the shelf with a cervical strain, a literal pain in the neck. Blake played two games on a rehab assignment the last two nights with Class A Rancho Cucamonga.
Uribe is placed on the DL retroactive to July 24. The earliest he can be activated is Monday, August 8, though manager Don Mattingly was unsure of Uribe's recovery timetable, since he original thought this hip strain would only last a few days.
Lineups
| Diamondbacks | Dodgers | |||
| SS |
Bloomquist |
LF |
Gwynn |
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| 2B |
Johnson |
3B |
Blake |
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| RF |
Upton |
RF |
Ethier |
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| C |
Montero |
CF |
Kemp |
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| CF |
Young |
1B |
Rivera |
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| 1B |
Allen |
2B |
Miles |
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| 3B |
Roberts |
C |
Barajas |
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| LF |
Parra |
SS |
Carroll |
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| P |
Owings |
P |
Billingsley |
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Game Time: 7:10 p.m.
TV: KCAL
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Rasmus and Ubaldo
two young stars leaving the NL…good for the Dodgers I guess, bad for NL fans. At least they didn’t go to the typical powerhouses.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
For the return Ubaldo's reportedly getting
I think it’s bad for NL West fans.
by Taylor Maricle on Jul 30, 2011 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Unless Jimenez is hurt
I think it’s a win for the Tribe. If they throw in Chisenhall, that might change things. Ubaldo has proven to be an upper-echelon pitcher for the Rockies, probably the best they’ve ever had. I don’t understand why teams are dealing quality players under team control for 2-3 years for lottery tickets. Especially when they are under no pressure to do so.
It smells of panic.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
Delay of Furcal trade
In a move that is still having seam heads scratching their heads, the announcement of the Rafael Furcal trade to the Cards is being held up. Details indicate that the Dodgers will be giving the Cards 4million towards the rest of his salary.
However, what the Dodgers will be getting back has been the mystery a good part of the day. We now find out that the choices the Dodgers have are:
A.) One years worth of home contracting services to cover Jamie’s properties.
B.) An option on a parking lot in downtown Billings Montana-McCourt needs more details to see if he can leverage the property and then get a loan for his other Montana properties
Please stay tuned….
The deal keeps getting better
Jon Heyman
by mlbtraderumors
appears rox now getting 4th player in deal
down on the farm
sands, van slyke and garcia have all homered all far.
that’s garcia’s 17th btw..as a 19 year old..in probably the toughest hitters league in the minors.
awesoke
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 30, 2011 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions
See? Who says we have no position player prospects!
Though Ned is right, it’s still very top heavy toward pitchers. Glad he’s aware of this (obvious) fact and looking accordingly.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
I wonder if Van Slyke might get a shot in September
He’s certainly done well enough to get a shot. At the very least give him an extended Spring Training.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Take that, bitches
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
if he really was pissed off..
throwing batting practice to the Padres is a great way to go out…
Cleveland, Detroit, or Kansas City, Cincinnati, Baltimore, Washington are probably the only places I’d never want to be dealt to.
Nats are going to be monsters soon tho
Detroit has good ownership, tho I don’t agree with how they handle pitchers.
I’m not sold on KC as a future power.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
KC is awesome, Washington is awesome in Alexandria
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
KC is really nice
Except if you’re not used to humidity it’s AWFUL! I was there for a week when i was 11 or 12 and could barely breathe.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
as a ballplayer
you live where you want, you live out of a suitcase for 6 months anyway. Plus I like the DC area but I do hate humidity.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
Power no, but hopefully they will start to be more competitive. They made a hell of pickup in Paulino.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
with David Glass as an owner
the good times might not last long.
Found this article on the worst 10 owners in baseball history.
We’re No. 4!!
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
The 36.0 era won’t help my fantasy team tonight..
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jul 30, 2011 6:32 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I’m lost as to why Ubaldo pitched tonight.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
No one told Tracy
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Yah my guess would be...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZNkLyQSZVg
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Guess Kuroda Loves Losing
Once a Hiroshima Carp, always a Hiroshima Carp. Losing is in the blood for the Carp and it looked pretty obvious to me that Kuroda was not ready to play on the big stage in Boston or New York City. For someone who claims he wants to help the team, why not go to Boston and come back next year along with the players we would get for Kuroda. Somehow this just seems way too wrong. I would like to blame Colletti, but what good would that do, he is already responsible for global warming, high gas prices and the falling California real estate market.
I hate comments like this.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Jul 30, 2011 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
Mainly because LA is a big phucking stage.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
LA isnt NY or Boston
not even close in terms of sports media scrutiny.
I agree that it would seem Kuroda lacks competitive fire…and that comfort is more important to him than his career.
Which is fine…plenty of people choose comfort over career moves.
I think you make too many sweeping generalizations and don’t know what you’re talking about.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 30, 2011 6:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Kuroda clearly doesn't do well in pressure situations
Which is why in 2009 I only went to 2 games in the playoffs, both Kuroda starts, and he dominated both of them. Yeah, he clearly just doesn’t have what it takes. It’s also why he signed with the Dodgers in 08 rather than the very competitive Mariners.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Kuroda only started once in 09.
And blew up. He was coming off of a long layoff from injuries, though.
by Taylor Maricle on Jul 30, 2011 6:43 PM PDT up reply actions
touche!
08 it was
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Holy crap, it's been that long? lol
And that was as a “rookie” too! haha
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
However, with the whole throwing being Victorino thing
you can’t say he’s not competitive.
by Taylor Maricle on Jul 30, 2011 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd bet 99% of the people on this blog take a line drive off the head
They’d never stand on a pitching mound again!
I was afraid of getting hit before i got hit!
Kuroda is a mans man, lol.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
i think Kuroda has what it takes to pitch in those environments..
but he obviously didnt care enough about winning to go for it.
I was in generally disagreeing with the stage in LA being similar to Boston/NY. Its not even close.
The stadium is half empty in LA nowadays
People dont care as much in general about sports in LA.
Boston/NY is a totally different element.
Those fans are crazy.
Perhaps Kuroda didnt want to pitch in it.
I dont think thats the case though. I think he just wanted the season to end in September so he can go back to Japan in October.
Do you think Boston or New York would be full up
If they had a team 12 games under .500?
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
You are older than me yet it feels like you missed the Yankees of the 80s
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
This
Crappy ownership can make the best fan bases disappear.
He's a loyal guy
I love that about him. I’m all for him staying this year and resigning next year as well. I love his attitude, I wish more players had this mentality.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Texas was in the running too
I don’t see how your argument holds water. I do think the loyalty thing is overplayed, but I think he is competitive. You can’t be a good MLB pitcher, or even an MLB pitcher at all, without some fortitude.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
he hasnt had great numbers since 2008
But he’s improved his K/bb numbers at AAA between 2010 and 2011.
Still only 23.
He wouldnt have been the first guy I’d have wanted from Boston, but still not a bad guy to have around since the Dodgers have no 1st baseman at all in the organization if Sands stays in LF.
Maybe 3 years ago
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=9018&position=1B
Now he’s a good minor league Loney. When he comes up he will probly be Loney of 09-10.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
those numbers are from the international league though..
if he was doing that in the PCL then i’d think yeah…he’s worthless.
But he still has plenty of potential.
the IL is more nuetral
but it’s not totally depressing a hitters power potential. Lars isn’t the prospect he use to be.
I dont think the dodgers are missing too much by not having him.
He is a massive guy too
He seems like he should be hitting 30 home runs a year, kinda like what I’ve heard about Gallaghers frame.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
I'm not surprised Kuroda chose to stay
though for the life of me, I can’t fathom why. This season has been a trainwreck and an embarrassment from an ownership standpoint. Why not go to a contender for a couple of months and come back when the dust has perhaps settled.
Nothing is ever easy.
I hear Ryan Theriot is part of the trade…
by Tripon on Jul 30, 2011 6:43 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
So why are you happy about it?
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Thanks raffy
Now we can pay some lawyer bills! Are you seriously happy about that? I doubt we get back anything worth anything. Especially with Raffy heating up this kinda sucks.
I’m gonna miss him, he was a hell of a player when healthy.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Honestly I don't think it would have made a different had he stayed in AAA the rest of the year
Then him playing for 2 months in the majors before next year. He would have been our number 1 option either way IMO
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
it's not about being the #1 option
it’s about exposing him to major league pitching for an extended period of time so he can make the necessary adjustments going into next year.
200 abs for Gordon now in the majors
will do alot to determine if he can handle the job next year or fi the Dodgers need to bring in another stop gap for 2012.
I don't think that was ever an option
Gordon is our guy.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Can't Blame Kuroda
Kuroda has been loyal almost to a fault as he could have gotten us a good prospect. But unfortunately teams didn’t want to accept Colletti’s asking price for him. He has a no trade clause for a reason and he chose to honor it. The real problem in this whole mess has been McCourt. He unlike Kuroda hasn’t been loyal to the team and has made the team a mess. If he was a better owner we would not be sellers at the deadline and would be able to get players to help the team make the playoffs and compete for a World Series. I hope that this whole mess is over sooner rather than later.
We have the Angels’ PA announcer tonight. Normal Dodger guy (Eric Smith? I always forget his name) is off.
Shocking I know.
Truth is, I killed him. There can only be one.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 30, 2011 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Wasn't there some PR person or something like that who worked for the Dodgers named Eric Stephen?
I thought I remember something like that being talked about on here 2 years ago, lol
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
closest is the hockey writer for the OC Register, used to be at LA Times, named Eric Stephens.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 30, 2011 7:07 PM PDT up reply actions
where's the firesale?
we’re only trading one guy; I was expecting a lot more
Ted Lilly
Any chance we trade him? Any chance we trade anyone else away or possibly add for next year?
by dodgers4life on Jul 30, 2011 6:46 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I don't know, let's see what you have in mind, famed trade guru.
by Taylor Maricle on Jul 30, 2011 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I was wondering if the Yankees would be interested in adding a starter like Lilly?
by dodgers4life on Jul 30, 2011 6:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Soft-tossing lefties who have trouble getting NL West hitters out
generally don’t fare well in the AL East or the playoffs
by The Dude Abides on Jul 30, 2011 6:56 PM PDT up reply actions
If Blake stays healthy
I could see an August waiver-wire deal. Probably a reliever like Hawk and Carroll too. No real prospects.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
I don't see any reason to trade Hawksworth
He’s putting up a really nice season.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
he'd only really work in a package deal
but you should always look to maximize value for relievers cos they’re so fungible.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
its so easy to get so wrapped up
in prospects and trades and possibility
lets just try to enjoy what we got (especially a player like Kuroda who loves the team regardless. that’s the kind of player we need during these tough times. its why WE love this team because if we were all about winning and hype and whatever, we would all be yankee or sox or phillie fans)
Fuck those teams
I’m a fan of having more home grown players (or players we sign first out of other leagues like Kuorda) then just trading or signing a bunch of others.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

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