Dodgers Week 18 In Review: Farewell, Rafael Furcal
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2011 6:55 PM PDT
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The good news this week is that Davey Lopes is now wearing number 15 again, the number he wore as a player in Los Angeles, and one he hadn't worn with the Dodgers since Game 6 of the 1981 World Series. The bad news is that the previous owner of number 15 is no longer a Dodger, as Rafael Furcal is now a Cardinal.
Actually, it's not all bad news, as Furcal was healthy enough and played well enough to build up any kind of trade value, and it provided a smooth transition for Dee Gordon to take the reins at shortstop, where the Dodgers hope Gordon will remain for the better part of the next decade. Furcal went out with a bang, hitting .333/.444/.467 in his final week at Chavez Ravine.
On the field, the Dodgers were 3-3 for the second straight week. Last week, the feeling was a tad more upbeat as the team won Saturday and Sunday to even their weekly record, but this week began 3-1 so 3-3 doesn't seem so hot.
Dodger Batter of the Week: The award is split this week between both All-Star outfielders, as Matt Kemp hit .417/.462/.750 with nine RBI and Andre Ethier hit .435/.519/.609 and scored six times. Honorable mention goes to fellow outfielder Tony Gwynn Jr., who hit .316/.350/.579, and Jamey Carroll, who had eight hits in 16 at-bats as well as a souvenir baseball for picking up his 10th RBI of the season.
Dodger Pitcher of the Week: Hiroki Kuroda took the loss on Wednesday against Colorado, but he also allowed just one run in six innings while striking out six. Then on Saturday, Kuroda exercised his no-trade clause to remain a Dodger through at least the end of this season, providing a lesson that no matter what we think we know, there is no easy rubric to the mindset of professional athletes.
Week 18 Record: 3-3
28 runs scored (4.67 per game)
27 runs allowed (4.50 per game)
.517 pythagorean winning percentage
Season Record: 48-59
393 runs scored (3.67 per game)
435 runs allowed (4.07 per game)
.454 pythagorean winning percentage (49-58)
Transactions:
- Friday: The Dodgers placed Kenley Jansen in the 15-day disabled list with cardiac arrhythmia, and recalled reliever Josh Lindblom to take his place.
- Saturday: The Dodgers activated Casey Blake from the DL. To make room on the roster, the Dodgers placed Juan Uribe on the 15-day DL with a left hip strain
- Sunday: The Dodgers traded Rafael Furcal and approximately $2.5 million to St. Louis for Double A outifelder Alex Castellanos
- Sunday: The Dodgers recalled Dee Gordon from Triple A Albuquerque to take Furcal's place on the roster.
- Sunday: The Dodgers traded outfielder Trayvon Robinson to Boston (Robinson was shipped to Seattle as the second part of a three-team trade for Erik Bedard) for catcher Tim Federowicz (will report to Triple A) and pitchers Juan Rodriguez (headed for Class A Great Lakes) and Stephen Fife (going to Double A Chattanooga).
The Dodgers now have 38 players on their 40-man roster.
Game Results:
- Monday: Dodgers 8, Rockies 5
- Tuesday: Dodgers 3, Rockies 2
- Wednesday: Rockies 3, Dodgers 1
- Friday: Dodgers 9, D-Backs 5
- Saturday: D-Backs 6, Dodgers 4
- Sunday: D-Backs 6, Dodgers 3
Upcoming Week: After a nine-game homestand, the Dodgers head out on the road facing a pair of National League West foes. The Dodgers play three in San Diego, followed by their usual Thursday day off, then head to Arizona to battle the Diamondbacks for the third time in four weekends.
| Mon | Tue | Wed | Thu | Fri | Sat | Sun |
| 1 at SD 7:05pm |
2 at SD 7:05pm |
3 at SD 7:05pm |
4 Off |
5 at Ari 6:40pm |
6 at Ari 5:10pm |
7 at Ari 1:10pm |
| (L) Luebke | (R) Latos | (R) Stauffer | (R) Collmenter | (L) Saunders | (R) Kennedy |
Previous Weeks In Review: Week 1 | Week 2 | Week 3 | Week 4 | Week 5 | Week 6 | Week 7 | Week 8 | Week 9 | Week 10 | Week 11 | Week 12 | Week 13 | Week 14 | Week 15 | Week 16 | Week 17
Week 18 Stats
| Player | PA | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | BB | SB/CS | BA/OBP/SLG | OPS |
| Kemp | 26 | 24 | 3 | 10 | 2 | 0 | 2 | 9 | 2 | 1/0 | .417/.462/.750 | 1.212 |
| Ethier | 27 | 23 | 6 | 10 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 4 | 3 | 0/0 | .435/.519/.609 | 1.127 |
| Carroll | 19 | 16 | 2 | 8 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 2 | 1/0 | .500/.526/.500 | 1.026 |
| Gwynn | 20 | 19 | 3 | 6 | 1 | 2 | 0 | 2 | 1 | 1/0 | .316/.350/.579 | .929 |
| Furcal | 18 | 15 | 3 | 5 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 1 | 1/1 | .333/.444/.467 | .911 |
| Rivera | 20 | 19 | 1 | 6 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 0 | 0/0 | .316/.300/.474 | .774 |
| Navarro | 15 | 12 | 3 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 0/0 | .167/.333/.417 | .750 |
| Miles | 26 | 26 | 4 | 6 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0/0 | .231/.231/.308 | .538 |
| Loney | 15 | 15 | 1 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0/0 | .133/.133/.133 | .267 |
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| Barajas | 8 | 6 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 0/0 | .167/.375/.667 | 1.042 |
| Gordon | 4 | 4 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0/0 | .250/.250/.250 | .500 |
| Velez | 9 | 8 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0/0 | .000/.111/.000 | .111 |
| Blake | 5 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0/0 | .000/.000/.000 | .000 |
| Oeltjen | 3 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0/0 | .000/.000/.000 | .000 |
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| Pitchers | 11 | 10 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0/0 | .000/.000/.000 | .000 |
| Totals | 226 | 204 | 28 | 57 | 11 | 2 | 5 | 28 | 15 | 4/1 | .279/.333/.426 | .760 |
| Pitcher | G | W-L | Sv | IP | H | R | ER | BB | K | ERA | WHIP | FIP* |
| Kuroda | 1 | 0-1 | -- | 6.0 | 6 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 6 | 1.50 | 1.500 | 2.03 |
| Kershaw | 1 | 1-0 | -- | 6.2 | 8 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 6 | 2.70 | 1.500 | 2.13 |
| De La Rosa | 2 | 1-1 | -- | 10.0 | 8 | 4 | 4 | 8 | 11 | 3.60 | 1.600 | 5.83 |
| Lilly | 1 | 1-0 | -- | 5.0 | 3 | 3 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 3.60 | 1.000 | 9.03 |
| Billingsley | 1 | 0-1 | -- | 5.2 | 7 | 6 | 6 | 5 | 4 | 9.53 | 2.118 | 4.27 |
| Starters | 6 |
3-3 | -- | 33.1 | 32 |
16 | 15 | 20 | 28 | 4.05 | 1.560 | 4.62 |
| Elbert | 2 | 0-0 | -- | 2.2 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 3 | 0.00 | 1.125 | 0.78 |
| Jansen | 2 | 0-0 | 1 | 2.0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 4 | 0.00 | 0.000 | (0.97) |
| Guerra | 2 | 0-0 | 1 | 1.2 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0.00 | 1.200 | 4.83 |
| Guerrier | 4 | 0-0 | -- | 4.1 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 6 | 2.08 | 0.923 | 3.95 |
| MacDougal | 4 | 0-0 | -- | 3.1 | 4 | 2 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 2.70 | 1.800 | 4.23 |
| Lindblom | 2 | 0-0 | -- | 2.0 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 4.50 | 2.000 | 3.53 |
| Hawksworth | 3 | 0-0 | -- | 3.1 | 3 | 2 | 2 | 3 | 3 | 5.40 | 1.800 | 3.03 |
| Kuo | 2 | 0-0 | -- | 1.1 | 4 | 5 | 5 | 3 | 2 | 33.75 | 5.250 | 16.53 |
| Relievers | 6 |
0-0 |
2 | 20.2 | 18 | 11 | 10 | 14 | 20 |
4.35 |
1.548 | 3.80 |
| Totals | 6 |
3-3 | 2 | 54.0 | 50 | 27 | 25 | 34 | 48 | 4.17 | 1.556 | 4.31 |
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Ted Lilly with the best WHIP and highest FIP. Go figure
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
soundsl like a rap
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 31, 2011 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions
sometimes I wonder how many pitchers know what FIP means
by Josie Becker on Jul 31, 2011 7:06 PM PDT up reply actions
but they know when they are getting their ass kicked
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I listened to Ned's press conference
He indirectly admitted to asking about Lavarnway in the Kuroda talks. At least he tried, I guess.
Really? What else did he say? Good to hear him ask for a top prospect like he did from the Yankees.
by dodgers4life on Jul 31, 2011 7:01 PM PDT up reply actions
seconded
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 31, 2011 7:04 PM PDT up reply actions
ps k3vo is coming into town
next week, so we should do something, except it is in the orangest of counties, so I’m thinking only Nolander will show up
"[Bob Gibson] pitches as though he's double-parked." - Vin Scully
I'm guessing 2012 catching situation is
Navarro
Ellis
Fedz in the current Ellis role (bouncing around minors and majors during his option years.)
by Michael White on Jul 31, 2011 7:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m fine with that at C if we can get a bat or two.
by dodgers4life on Jul 31, 2011 7:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Fielder is the key
I guess Sands will be either LF or 1b depending on which free agent bat they get (LF or 1b).
If the Dodgers only signed Fielder and no one else:
2b – Carroll
RF – Ethier
1b – Fielder
CF – Kemp
LF – Sands
3b – Uribe
SS – Gordon
C – Navarro
The first 5 is pretty good.
Hopefully Carroll resigns and sign Fielder.
Dont do anything else (probably cant afford anything else)
Prince Fielder is not going to be a Dodger in 2012. Just check that dream at the door and save yourself a winter of discontent.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
if he's not
then i’m not sure when the Dodgers have a chance to be good again.
Whenever Lee, Rubby, Kershaw are all #1s in the rotation i guess.
have to think about
trading Bills or Ethier to fill holes, preferably Bills only when Eo or Webster is ready, so no real rush.
But a trade of Ethier for two young players might free up enough cash for a Fielder, we’ll see.
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I wouldn’t trade Bills since he is under contract for a few more years. I would only trade Ethier if we could sign Fielder
by dodgers4life on Jul 31, 2011 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I like Joey's better
Carrol’s OBP >>>> Gordon. You want more ABs for Kemp, not less. And until Gordon can demonstrate he can get on base at an above average clip, he has to sit at the bottom of the lineup.
by Michael White on Jul 31, 2011 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions
gordon
carroll
fielder
ethier
kemp
uribe
sands
navarro
You know I endorse signing Fielder (which I know isn’t going to happen), so I endorse this lineup.
That said, looking at this lineup, even if the Dodgers do sign Fielder, which they won’t, I’m not printing any playoff tickets just yet. That lineup is shaky right now. It requires Kemp to put up another big year, Uribe to bounce back, Gordon and Sands both to be adequate, Carroll not to run out of Gamer Magic, and Navarro to be something other than an embarrassment at the plate.
The reason I endorse signing Fielder is that Fielder to great and likely to be great over the course of a contract. Even if the Dodgers are bad for a couple more years, Fielder can still be part of the next great Dodger team. I’m not counting on anything for 2012.
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by Humma Kavula on Jul 31, 2011 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions
We all can dream can’t we. If we can lock up Kemp and Ethier and get two good bats and resign Kuroda I would call it a successful offseason. I think that Sands and Gordon will both start next year and do fine. If we can do those two thing we can be a good team next year. This divison got weaker with the Rockies trading Jimenez and the Padres won’t be good for a long time. Arizona and San Francisco will be our biggest competiton. If we can do what I said we can win the division as Arizona doesn’t have the pitching and San Francisco the offense. I know it doesn’t look good right now with the ownership situation in turmoil but I believe it will be resolved soon. This year has been tough with all the injuries and down years by many players but I know next year will be better.
by dodgers4life on Jul 31, 2011 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t disagree, of course — all I’m saying is that there are a lot of ifs in your second and third sentences.
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by Humma Kavula on Jul 31, 2011 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions
i like ethier
but i think he has more value as a trade chip this offseason, would rather trade him than lock him up, then go for Fielder and lock Kemp.
Since Trayvon was just traded
is trading Ethier a viable option anymore?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 31, 2011 9:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I doubt that the presence of Trayvon Robinson was/is the make-or-break factor of whether and/or when to trade Andre Ethier.
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by Humma Kavula on Jul 31, 2011 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions
maybe not to Ned
but it was here.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 31, 2011 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Fair enough.
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by Humma Kavula on Jul 31, 2011 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Ned made it sound like Sands/Kemp/Ethier will be next year’s OF. Lots of things can happen, but ’tis what he said.
that’s what I got as well.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 31, 2011 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Seems like
he really wants to be a Dodger, huh?
by Taylor Maricle on Aug 1, 2011 1:10 AM PDT up reply actions
Sure
look how hard he was trying to get into the clubhouse. He REALLY wanted to join the team, and it’s been a couple years. Signing for $180mil and then getting to beat the crap out of Dodgers every day sure beats only beating the crap out of them 18 times.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
Ned: "Oh, WHOOPS. Damn. Hm. Uh...
Let me call Frank and see if we can afford Fielder. Damn, his line’s disconnected…"
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between locking him up and trading him
i would rather trade him, i think we could acquire top prospects for him and i don’t think he is that good anymore(or would be that good during the extention of his contract). I also believe we are not going to be able to lock him up and we should get a bigger haul trading him this offseason rather than at the deadline next year.
I just wanted to expand on this.
If I were Andre — and I’m not - I would take as big a contract as I could after 2012. I would be looking at my age-31 season in 2013, so I might be getting only one huge payday. Yeah, I’d be looking for a 6 or 7-year deal, if there’s a team out there that would give me one.
But Andre might be different. I don’t know. Maybe he thinks he can max out his earnings by taking a 2- or 3-year deal after 2012 and then going for another 3- or 4-year deal after that. If that’s the case, yes, I’d like Andre around until 2014 or 15. What he brings to the table is not easily replaced. The only reason not to sign him is that the deal may not look good after that short-term deal.
So I offer Andre that deal. If he takes it, great, I’m happy. If he doesn’t take it, I start exploring trades with an eye toward pulling the trigger at the deadline in ‘12…. but if somebody makes me an offer I can’t refuse in the offseason, I do not refuse it.
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by Humma Kavula on Jul 31, 2011 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Totally agree with all of that, well said.
except there was no need to use such cross(out) language there mister!
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by Humma Kavula on Jul 31, 2011 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree completely.
I don’t see him accepting a 2 or 3 year deal though. If his power numbers stay down then he is going to need to cash in as soon as he possibly can.
I don’t think he will, either. I just want to acknowledge that there is a world in which I support not trading Ethier, as unlikely as it is to come to pass.
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by Humma Kavula on Jul 31, 2011 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree. I think Ethier is worth a three year deal worth 11-12 M per year. If he doesn’t sign it trade him to a team with a good 2B or 3B prospect.
by dodgers4life on Jul 31, 2011 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions
If he signed the short-term deal, it would be for way, way more than 11-12 million per year. Eric has him slated for 13 million next year, in his final year of arbitration/team control.
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by Humma Kavula on Jul 31, 2011 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, this just underscores it. Do you take that if you’re Ethier? I don’t, especially if I have a good year in 2012. He has a lot riding on next year.
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by Humma Kavula on Jul 31, 2011 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions
In this age of modest offfense
yes, he has been remarkably consistent with the OPS. The drop in power is a concern though. I don’t think he’s athletic enough where he will age well over the duration of a 4-year contract.
The mini-contract is a good idea, but I don’t think he’ll take it. Why would he want to become a free agent again at 33-34?
He’s in his prime now.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
I'd love to get Prince
But it seems unlikely. Don’t know if we would pay that kind of money to one player when we have so many needs. I think we will sign a couple of bats and a SP. I think Aramis Ramirez and Michael Cuddyer would be good fits. Then resign Kuroda. Good lineup and rotation
Gordon
Cuddyer
Ethier
Kemp
Ramirez
Sands
Uribe
Navarro
by dodgers4life on Jul 31, 2011 7:35 PM PDT up reply actions
age main concern with those two guys
Cuddyer 33 next year 34
A-Ram
Cuddyer/A-Ram i’m sure can be had if the Dodgers give them enough years…but i doubt they have many good years left.
It’d probably be the best possible fall back plan if Fielder falls thru
Seems more realistic option than Fielder. I think they both have two good years left. Not a good free agent market after Pujols,Fielder, and Reyes.
by dodgers4life on Jul 31, 2011 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Today
was my first loss at DS after a five game win streak. I turn on SNB, at Berkman hits a three run HR. My magic may have left with Furcal
Kemps fails those in Xeifrank's contest
3 :1 odds 2.5 total bases + SB
Kemp got 2 total bases.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I love Matt Kemp
Tough loss 2day. Even tougher when u lose one of your teammates!! We gonna miss Raffy!! Cardinals got a great ball player and a great person
"[Bob Gibson] pitches as though he's double-parked." - Vin Scully
by Maddz on Jul 31, 2011 7:13 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
they had a video tribute at the ballpark. It was kinda morbid, listed him as Dodger Shortstop 2002-2011
by Josie Becker on Jul 31, 2011 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Neat trick, I guess he was always a Dodger even while playing for the Braves
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Hopefully we can lock him up soon. How did we lock up Billingsley before the season if we had no money? We should have locked him up first.
by dodgers4life on Jul 31, 2011 7:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, to be fair, Matt was coming off 2010 and hadn’t yet been “HOLY FUCKING WOW” good
"[Bob Gibson] pitches as though he's double-parked." - Vin Scully
Best thing Matt Kemp ever did was not signing a long term deal with us. He will have the most leverage baseball has seen when he’s a free agent in the winter of 2012.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
You can only lock up someone who wants to be locked up.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Ned really fucked Trayvon, Seattle is the last place he wanted to be traded to.
I predicted Ned would trade Trayvon two years ago in a tongue in cheek comment based strictly on the fact he’s a switch hitter. It is weird:
Santana, Abreu, Bell, and now Robinson. Not like switch hitters grow on tree’s. Griff Erickson better watch his back, I think he’s the only left of note in our system.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
isnt the worst spot to break in to the majors
Seattle’s offense is terrible.
I think Trayvon gets plenty of chances to contribute there.
I think playing in Safeco could actually work out in his favor. It might help him focus more on contact (less strikeouts) and less on power. He could put his speed to use there too.
I doubt he’ll get much of a chance to play there though.
he did sign Furcal and Dioneer
maybe he likes other people’s switch-hitters
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
Don't worry
We’ve got a new catcher of the future, Griff is history NEXT trade deadline… :(
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Rafy coming up
1st at bat for Rafy, standing ovation from the best fans in the world
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Brewers have a crazy split..
Home – 39-14
Road – 21-35
Not sure they have enough to hold off the Cardinals.
Pirates great story but i doubt they hang with either of them.
did idiot Ned
not get the memo? We’re supposed to be trading from our 25 man roster, not from our homegrown prospects
Idiot wind blowing every time your move your mouth
Blowing down the backroads heading south
Idiot wind blowing every time you move your teeth
You’re an idiot babe
It’s a wonder that you still know how to breathe
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by Humma Kavula on Jul 31, 2011 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Fedo wishes
he stays in the MLB as long as Koyie Hill has managed to.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
If I ever get to live life over again, I’m totally coming back as a backup catcher.
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by Humma Kavula on Jul 31, 2011 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I just hope he doesn't airmail throws into CF
but he’s good defensively, so I doubt it. Delivering at the plate is another matter.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
By the by
It’s amazing to me the things people say out loud at baseball games. “Oh there we go” on an obvious double play ball. “Way to go Dodgers” as the team trails 3-0. “Come on Mattingly” when the score is 6-2. I spent a significant portion of the game wishing folk silent, but of course, everyone enjoys a game differently
"Way to go Dodgers" as the team trails 3-0.
I say this one at any time. My voice carries, as you know, so I try to get a LET’S go DODgers going in the Loge, even when the odds are long.
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by Humma Kavula on Jul 31, 2011 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions
LET’S go DODgers makes sense. HERE we go DODGERS, makes sense. Way to go Dodgers is just getting the words wrong
: )
by Josie Becker on Jul 31, 2011 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe if you listened to him he would have stopped.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jul 31, 2011 8:24 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah, that woulda been a lot worse. Thanks again for the seats, in case I haven’t thanked you enough : )
by Josie Becker on Jul 31, 2011 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Someday
The Dodgers will get a new owner
And everything will be ok again
by 68elcamino427 on Jul 31, 2011 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I am gonna have to add another acronym to the FAQ
IGGWBIGB
It’s Gonna Get Worse Before It Gets Better
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by Humma Kavula on Jul 31, 2011 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions
late 80s Yankees worse or Pittsburgh Pirates post Bonds worse
by Josie Becker on Jul 31, 2011 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Current Astros worse
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by Humma Kavula on Jul 31, 2011 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions
can’t remember the last time the Astros were relevant. Certainly pre-new uniforms/ballpark.
by Josie Becker on Jul 31, 2011 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Exactly ’05. And they went to the 7th game of the NLCS the previous year.
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by Humma Kavula on Jul 31, 2011 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Man, I liked that Larry Dierker Astros.
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by Humma Kavula on Jul 31, 2011 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions
transitioning away from
biggio/bagwell/berkman/Clemens/Pettite/Oswalt will take some time.
They’ve been mediocre to bad for the last 6 years:
2006 – 82-80
2007 – 73-89
2008 – 86-75 (pythagorean was 77-84)
2009 – 74-88
2010 – 76-86
2011 – 35-72
and its affected their attendance big time..
2006 – averaged 37,318 (6th in the league)
2011 – averaging 26,746 (11th in the league)
Dodgers attendance
Low to High to Low
2000 – 35,559 (7th)
2007 – 47,618 (1st)
2011 – 36,606 (5th)
I assume 2012 will be when the attendance bottoms out since attendance usually dependent on prior year results
unless
some changes are made in the offseason
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 31, 2011 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions
the McCourts got a big attendance boost when they took over..
2003 – 38,748
2004 – 43,065
If a new owner could get named before next season it’d definitely help lessen the blow.
i find these attendance things really interesting...
For instance, in 1973 the Dodgers led the NL in attendance.
Their attendance – 26,373.
Did no one go to games in the old days (no offense to people that are old)?
we're already experiencing "worse"
It’ll just be more legal wranglings and bad baseball, until we get new ownership/management. Unless the financial situation means Kemp has to go. Then it gets worse.
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Ugh, perish the thought. I don’t care to make that particular prediction, even though it might turn out to be accurate. That is nuclear-level bad.
But I think that an off-season without any acquisitions and free agents like Fielder saying that the Dodgers are not, for myriad reasons, on their radar, can qualify as worse — even without going nuclear.
Still, I’m a pessimist. Don’t listen to me.
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by Humma Kavula on Jul 31, 2011 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Promotion to AAA
With Trayvon gone, has it been announced who will be promoted to fill the outfield spot? Or, no one?
none yet
I’m hoping for Russell, but Van Slyke or Silverio could have a case
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 31, 2011 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Any three of those guys might rake in Albuquerque.
None of ’em would surprise me.
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i just really want to see(or at least read about)
Russell hitting on the moon.
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 31, 2011 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Me too
But then we’d just hear from anonymous scout that he’s just another Billy Ashley, even though KR is actually a good fielder. And so the cycle would continue!
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??
who said that? I thought that was about Sands?
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 31, 2011 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions
It was about Sands. But I'm just waiting to hear the same nonsense about Russell.
Not that he doesn’t have flaws but just waiting to hear him likened to someone totally wrong.
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i think i misread your comment, sorry :)
maybe he’ll be like Stubbs from Cinnci, just without the blazing speed.
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 31, 2011 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Speaking of Van Slyke, anyone catch his dad ripping on Colby Rasmus today?
http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/31/former-redbirds-andy-van-slyke-rips-colby-rasmus/
Wow… seems a bit harsh. Or at least… kind of looney.
He doesn’t use his intellectual mind; he uses his emotional mind.
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I know our Van Slyke
was an OF for years, in fact wasn’t he rated an excellent defensive OF? Was he moved to 1B due to lack of organizational depth and nothing else?
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The latter was my guess but don't know for sure. A question someone could ask a Chattanooga reporter, or DeJon or someone?
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The Lookouts roster has Cavazos-Galvez, Russell, and Silverio in the OF while Van Slyke is the only 1B listed.
We have a lot of outfielders that are around that same talent level so moving one of them to 1B makes sense because of our lack of 1B talent and because of all the OF’ers we have.
(It got real quiet in here…………………)
But, I’m neither happy nor unhappy with today’s moves. I’ll miss Rafy, but he was just too fragile between DL stints. I hope Dee can fill some of that void, but we’ll see.
Tray was just someone to look forward to in a couple years. I feel bad that he won’t get to play in front of his family, but I really never had him in the everyday lineup here,
We need a permanent catcher. I don’t think we have even come close to solving that problem, but we’re stocking the minor league staffs.
The Dodgers pay people good money to scout the minors for talent. These trades aren’t just political moves or PR moves. There is a purpose for them, but we, at this level, only see the Major League results. Some of these trades won’t come to fruition for years. This isn’t like NFL football, which has College Football to use as minor league training. The minor league staffs actually have to go see them to evaluate. They can’t just dial up saturday football and listen to the annoouncers do the work for them.
We may see some of the results in the off-season, when all the free agents will be flung to the heavens, awaiting a landing area. (Wow! Poetic, huh?) Things may be clearer then.
Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.
We may see some of the results in the off-season, when all the free agents will be flung to the heavens, awaiting a landing area.
According to Eric’s worksheet, there is already 90 million dollars allocated to next year (93 million, actually, minus Furcal’s 3 million buyout). That is not counting C, 1B, 2B, LF, the entire bench, one SP, and three bullpen slots.
Don’t click on the link. It’s ugly.
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by Humma Kavula on Jul 31, 2011 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Ugly indeed.
One good thing about that is I do think they can fill in some of those needs very cheaply — bullpen and at least 1 SP from the farm, easily. One of the catchers (at least). LF or 1B can hopefully come from within too (presumably Sands), if not both. Obviously, would prefer they sign Fielder but who knows if that is in any way feasible. That’s not counting any potential trade to free up a bit more money (again, unlikely, but who knows). So there’s a way, but yeah we do have to hope for some payroll increase, and it’s hard to imagine unless the ownership situation speeds up and is resolved by the winter.
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I am preparing myself for Frank dragging this thing out interminably.
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by Humma Kavula on Jul 31, 2011 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I am prepping myself for a Manchurian Candidate ending.
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How much money will we spend this offseason?
I think we need to spend 25-30 M to be able to have a chance to make the playoffs.
by dodgers4life on Jul 31, 2011 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Nobody here knows the answer to that question.
But, if I may give an uninformed answer, I doubt the a team in bankruptcy would have that much to spend.
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by Humma Kavula on Jul 31, 2011 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions
The Dominican reliever we got can throw 98-99 according to Mayo. That’s, well, interesting at least. And reading up on the other two, they sound like they have a bit more upside than Ellis 2.0 and Ely 2.0.
Bottom line: Not a particularly good trade but it doesn’t strike me as epic fail like the Dotel debacle.
I was going to give Ned the benefit of the doubt
and not post the hilarious photo of him that the Left Field Pavilion posted the day of last season’s deadline, BEFORE he made the idiotic Dotel for McDonald and Lambo deal. We were sellers at this season’s deadline, and it seemed like he was trying to trade the vets who needed to be traded. But then he goes out and trades one of our top 3 position prospects for a guy who projects to be a defensive backup at catcher and two bullpen arms! So Ned, this is for you:
I can feel it in the air tonight
by The Dude Abides on Jul 31, 2011 10:18 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Trayvon may never play the majors, and that trade still made no sense
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by Paul Udani on Jul 31, 2011 10:26 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
As I ponder how much Uribe sucks and that I am on record as saying I do not want Prince Fielder at anything even remotely resembling the cost he will command, I am trying to figure out where to spend the big monies. The obviousest answer is a huge extension for Kemp. I doubt Kemp (or maybe more importantly Dave Stewart) would want to sign one now, unless the money was Best In Baseball big. An extension for Kershaw is probably too early to look at right now. An extension for Ethier is probably the likeliest, but also the stupidest. He is merely an above average player and likely to decrease in production.
So who at 2B/SS/3B is worth going after? Reyes is obviously one possibility, but I don’t see that happening (especially with Dee) and not much else on the FA list. So I’m looking at guys we’d have to trade for. One name that keeps coming to me is Ian Kinsler. I believe he is signed for two more years at a very team-friendly rate. So what would it take? Does Ethier and Rubby (plus cash?) for Kinsler and Borbon get it done? Is that amenable to Dodger fans?
Texas could slide Young back to 2B and they get a cornerstone SP. If there is a massive flaw in this logic, please let me know.
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Rubby is off limits. He’s still rough around the edges but has a chance to eventually be a dominant #2-3. Just needs time.
by silverwidow on Jul 31, 2011 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Its an intriguing trade proposal to be sure
the massive flaw as I see it is that it would remove a young SP from the equation for a team that can’t afford to add any (other than maybe a Kuroda) in free agency next year. I think they’re counting on Rubby and may still need another pitcher from within the org to step up. Interesting idea though. Wonder if Ethier and someone else could get a Kinsler trade…
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It
Would seem redundant to replace one offensive starting player with aother one, leaving you to replace the leaving outfielder. The gain at offense at second would probably be lessened by the lack of offense at another corner outfield spot plus the cost of finding another starting pitcher.
by bhsportsguy on Jul 31, 2011 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions
I like Borbon, which is why I proposed him as the second guy. Texas is over him, though. He could also play CF, shifting Kemp to RF. I think (and I think the Dodgers think) Sands can get the job done in LF.
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Ethier for Dom Brown
or Montero if the Yanks want to get rid of Swisher. Saves tons of money for use at other positions, if there are no FA you can then add salary to get a 2B in another trade.
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i would do montero for ethier so fast the money could go to fielder
i doubt that yankees would agree.
If they want him to be their full-time DH
I agree. Seems like they want Romine to be the catcher. Montero is blocked at 1B. Just would be strange to have such a young player be a DH though.
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But really, what 2B? Utley and Cano are not close to being available. Pedroia, meh. Who else? Brian Roberts? There just aren’t a lot of quality 2Bs out there.
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haven't thought about that part yet
most likely it’ll be a cheap vet. Maybe Gamer again.
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An older gamer does not make the team better.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
I know
There just aren’t a lot of quality 2Bs out there.
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Or Uribe at 2nd and try for a 3B instead? (Not sure this is any easier mind you, but as a different scenario)
at least Uribe can play both those positions pretty well.
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Unless
The Dodgers would send a great deal of cash, it makes no sense for Philly or the Yankees to trade for Ethier when they can sign him as a free agent at the end of 2012.
Plus, who is replacing Ethier’s offense.
by bhsportsguy on Jul 31, 2011 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions
But WHAT PLAYER? All these “other player” bits are wearing on me. If Other Player Signed With Ethier Money is another Juan Uribe, it will suck so many amounts of suck. The Royals kept doing that with Jose Guillen and Gil Meche and whatnot. We are dangerously close to that model right now.
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What player
well we should obviously try to get the most we can afford, for sake of argument let’s say it’s ethier for montero, we are set at C,SS,CF,LF(assuming we give the job to Sands), on 1st base there is Fielder/Pujols to take Ethier’s money, i’ll rather it be Fielder but throwing money to Pena wouldn’t be a terrible backup plan, resign Carrol to play 2nd, Uribe is going to play 3rd probably. Then we can play Gordon,Carrol,Fielder/Pena,Kemp,Montero,Sands,Uribe,RF we sign.
I do realize this is not gonna happen but that is ‘What player’-
I like Michael Cuddyer as plan B if we can’t get Fielder. He is versatile and can play a number of positions including RF,1B,2B, and 3B. He also has a good bat. I’d try to sign him to a 2-3 yr deal worth 7-8M per.
by dodgers4life on Jul 31, 2011 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions
They're "win-now" teams
who get him for all of 2012. Swisher has a team option for 2012, he might not be back.
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Ethier
Is making at least 11M next year, they may want to win now but even those teams have budgets. Philadelphia has it’s own issues with Rollins, Hamels, and Oswalt.
Swisher is pretty comparable with Ethier and at 10.25M club option, he is going to cost less than Ethier will next season.
by bhsportsguy on Jul 31, 2011 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions
seems like Philly
will Oswalt him out at $2 mil.
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*buy Oswalt out
Ibanez comes off the books too.
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Kinsler isn't worth that IMO
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Does
Anyone note that Lew Wolfe still wants the team to be sold at a good price and is not pushing Bud or MLB to take control of the Dodgers.
I saw the article someone linked on here
that he urged McCourt to give up the fight and sell the team. Do you think other owners can join the choir and put pressure on Frank to relent?
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The
Only reason Wolfe spoke up was the comments about Selig in a legal filing. There is no indication that McCourt is close to any other owners who could pressure him to do anything.
McCourt relishes the outlier role and it wouldn’t matter of the other 29 owners had a press conference with a demand for him to sell.
by bhsportsguy on Jul 31, 2011 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions
If the owners have no sway
and Wolff has no sway, then his comments mean nothing. A non story.
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by Pure Azure on Jul 31, 2011 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
It
Is a story since owners don’t usually misspeak about other owners but in terms of influencing McCourt, it has no affect.
by bhsportsguy on Jul 31, 2011 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Was also interesting because I recall the recent odd column that proposed a weird ownership swap
where Wolfe becomes Dodger owner and a new owner is found for A’s, etc. Seemed implausible but interesting. Can’t remember which well known other proposed it off top of my head.
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Where is the end Game
Agree with your analysis and McCourt will litigate until the very end. MLB looks like they will be very cautious. I can’t see the Fox contract being broken, but maybe I don’t understand bankrupcy, so how long can McCourt drag this out?
If it gets into mid next year, can’t see Dodgers being able to sign anyone long term-Kemp and Ethier will walk
by wineracquet on Jul 31, 2011 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions
The next key
Hearing will be in two weeks when the Bankruptcy Court hears McCourt’s request to auction the TV rights. I would expect another all day hearing with the Judge ruling by the end of the week.
Just guessing, the Court will not allow McCourt to violate his existing contract with Fox that specifies an exclusive time period for Fox to bid for those rights.
Then McCourt will counter that MLB should approve Fox’s offer to extend the current deal. (I wonder if that offer is still in place). McCourt will argue by not approving the Fox deal, MLB has not allowed the Dodgers to find a remedy to their financial difficulty. MLB will argue that given the evidence that was unearthed by the divorce case and even in their discussions about the Fox deal, McCourt has not showed them that the money will go to the Dodgers.
I still think the Court will find that it is not in the best interest for the creditors that the extension be approved.
Still don’t think the Court can force a sale on McCourt so where it goes from there is anyone’s guess.
by bhsportsguy on Jul 31, 2011 11:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm missing something
You may have written about it before, but why don’t you think the Court can force a sale? In my limited experience (no substantial academic or professional knowledge about BK law), the judge can do just about anything to ensure the creditors get paid. Maybe that isn’t the standard. I don’t know.
One possible conclusion under the facts (as presented in divorce court) are that the Dodgers (debtor/franchise) have been driven into the ground by the McCourts (franchisee) to the dismay of MLB (creditor/franchisor). Some of Shaikin’s tweets suggest that Judge Gross definitely respects the franchisor/franchisee relationship of the MLB/Dodgers. To me, that tends to suggest that Gross will find the MLB franchise agreement etc. to influence (if not control) an equitable resolution to the BK action. Also, it seems clear that Judge Gross separates the Dodgers from McCourt as far as which party is the debtor before the Court (based on his decision on the financing issue).
I agree with everything else, but why don’t you think the Court can force a sale?
Well
McCourt gets the opportunity to file a Reorganization Plan within 120-180 days of filing Chapter 11, you can be sure the TV rights are a crucial element of that deal.
One thing I did not realize but will probably be explored by McCourt (and in a way he is doing this already) is to have a part of his current Fox contract (exclusive period to renegotiate) voided by the Court. The Court could terminate the current media rights contract if they felt that would be the way to satisfy the creditors.
Ultimately the Court could believe the best way to satisfy the creditors is too auction the team, however, this is where MLB would probably step in since they believe they have the right to approve any new owner.
Interesting
The way I’m seeing things, you are forcing the Court to decide between contract law and being nice to the franchisee (in violation of the franchise agreement/contract law). But I’m biased and inexperienced.
If I’m representing MLB, my plan on Aug. 16 (or whenever the hearing on TV rights is to occur) is to argue that McCourt’s proposed deal with Fox is not in the best interest of the creditors (the Dodgers). Fox will probably oppose it anyhow, since MLB is a more important/lucrative partner than the Dodgers. Then I present evidence that the value of TV contracts is (at least in part) governed by the size of the home city, maybe also by the history of the franchise if the evidence is out there. Once that is established, I would want to show that the proposed deal is below market value for a team located in the 2nd most populous city in America, with tremendous historical significance. I feel like McCourt’s (attys) biggest mistake in BK so far has been a failure to separate the owner/franchisee from the debtor/franchise.
As an aside, I think Team McCourt made a mistake by filing in DE. I realize that BK is federal law and the DE usury court is state law, but CA tends to be sympathetic to the shareholder while DE tends to favor the Board of Directors (in corporate law). While McCourt sees himself as Director of something, I think most people would analogize MLB as the Board and McCourt as the shareholder. It may not matter, but Judge Gross is a human being/legal professional living in DE. I would have filed with someone inundated by the 2nd Circuit/CA.
What is the timeline on response? Say Kuo is claimed by the D-backs. Can the Dodgers say “Ok, let’s negotiate. Give us Gerrit Cole.” When Towers tells Ned to GFH with Juan Uribe’s contract, do the Dodgers still have the option of saying, “Screw it, he’s yours?”
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a) 48 hours
b) D-Backs have Bauer, not Cole. This year’s draftees can’t be traded for one year.
by silverwidow on Jul 31, 2011 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions
But to answer your question, yes, the Dodgers can just let them have Kuo and Arizona would pay the contract.
by silverwidow on Jul 31, 2011 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Kendrys Morales
What about taking a shot on him? He should be healthy and ready to play next season. Angels have Trumbo at 1B which means he could be expendable.
It has been ages since the last Angels-Dodgers trade, hasn't it?
{plays Jeopardy music}
give up?
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Here you go...
October 26, 1993: The California Angels traded Reggie Williams to the Los Angeles Dodgers for Mike James.
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Nothing beats 1972's though for size:
November 28, 1972: The California Angels traded Ken McMullen and Andy Messersmith to the Los Angeles Dodgers for Billy Grabarkewitz, Frank Robinson, Bill Singer, Mike Strahler and Bobby Valentine.
And… night everyone.
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Shudder
My trade phobia began with this deal—Valentine was my guy. But I came to value the two guys LA got.
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by Little Blue Bicycle on Aug 1, 2011 5:31 AM PDT up reply actions
you don’t trade the incumbent for a song…..unless you’re the Dodgers of course (RIP Raffy)
by Josie Becker on Jul 31, 2011 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions
yes
do tell
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by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 1, 2011 6:53 AM PDT up reply actions
No Kershaw against Phillies next week
Pitching matchups
Kuroda vs. Halladay
Lilly vs. Lee
Billingsley vs. Worley
That Monday night game could be a classic.
he's projected to pitch against the astros on saturday that week
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