Oh Thank Heavens, Shades Of Bill Bevens: Dodgers Make Both Hits Count In Win Over Padres
by Eric Stephen on Jul 9, 2011 5:05 PM PDT
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PrintThe Dodgers made 26 outs before collecting their first hit, just like Game 4 of the 1947 World Series. Today's game was slightly less important, but still memorable nonetheless as Juan Uribe and Dioner Navarro collected safeties before the Padres could get that 27th out, giving the Dodgers their second straight 1-0 win, and their third straight shutout.
Not to be forgotten was that the Dodgers allowed just one hit themselves. Rubby De La Rosa was magnificent once again, as he didn't allow a hit until the fifth inning, a single by Cameron Maybin. In his last start, on Monday, De La Rosa didn't allow a hit until the sixth inning against the Mets. De La Rosa struck out seven of the first 10 hitters of the game, and ended with eight strikeouts in his six shutout innings.
"You really feel like Rubby, every time he pitches he's going to be good," manager Don Mattingly said after the game. Rubby in his last three starts has allowed just four runs and 12 hits in 20 innings, with seven walks and 17 strikeouts. The eight punchouts were a career high for De La Rosa.
The way Aaron Harang started the game, it didn't seem like the Dodgers would struggle to score for very long. Harang walked two and threw 37 pitches in the first inning, but then settled down to throw 58 pitches over his next five innings. Harang was pulled after six frames as he was just activated from the disabled list this morning.
Josh Spence, Chad Qualls, and Mike Adams combined for two more no-hit innings for San Diego, who have never thrown a no-hitter in their 43 years of existence. Luke Gregerson got the first two outs of the ninth inning before allowing a double by Uribe to deep left. Dioner Navarro followed with a bloop single to right center to end it and start the Matt Kemp Celebration Gauntlet™. "This was the most bizarre game I've ever been in," Navarro said.
Bizarre indeed, but the Dodgers have won three straight, and are now tied with the Padres for fourth (and fifth) place in the NL West. Ted Lilly goes for the sweep on Sunday afternoon against Tim Stauffer.
Notes
- The Dodgers have three straight shutouts for the first time since July 25-27, 1991. The only time they have had four straight shutouts since moving to Los Angeles was from September 9-11, 1966.
- The Dodgers last had consecutive 1-0 victories last June 1-2. They beat Arizona both days in their final at-bat, Kemp with a walk-off home run and Garret Anderson with an extra-inning walk-off single.
- The Dodgers have never had three straight 1-0 wins, at least not dating back to 1919.
- The Dodgers have went 10 full games without a home run. Aaron Miles hit the Dodgers' last home run on June 28 in Minnesota, and the Dodgers have kept it in the park in their last 384 plate appearances.
WP - Blake Hawksworth (2-2): 1 IP, 1 strikeout
LP - Luke Gregerson (2-2): 2/3 IP, 2 hits, 1 run, 1 strikeout
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Furcal
Will any teams take a chance on Furcal and trade for him? Brewers or Reds maybe?
i'd say it's possible
but we’ll be underwhelmed by whatever we get in return
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 9, 2011 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Would
You make that deal, especially with Rolen’s injury history. Any trade the Dodgers make, they will not be the ones who get the pick who they want.
Could Chris Davis form the Rangers be had? They could use some bullpen help. Maybe trade MacDougal or Hawksworth for him? How good is his D at 3B? I think that he could be good given the opportunity.
i want him
and from all I hear, he’s pretty good at third, though his best position is first
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 9, 2011 7:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Statements like this are getting old. We have absolutely no clue how Ned will handle things as a seller.
True, we don’t know. But I honestly can’t see him dumping a Jamey Carroll for a non-prospect/nobody. He’d just as soon keep him the rest of the year for his intangibles, etc.
Utility guys – I’m beginning to think that Ned is obsessed with them, and certainly won’t trade one away. If anything, he may pick up another one, for our injury-plagued stretch run.
by TopDeckTrueBlue on Jul 9, 2011 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions
I’d hope he wouldn’t trade Carroll just to trade him. There are a few guys (Furcal is the main one) where trading them to dump some salary makes sense. With guys like Carroll and Miles it would be best just to hold onto them.
If you got ANYTHING for Miles you absolutely do it.
by Michael White on Jul 9, 2011 7:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Miles is dirt cheap and you still need to field a team? It’s not like trading him will get anyone who will ever make a difference for us.
wouldnt say that
Cardinals dealt Jim Edmonds (when he was done) to the Padres for a Class A player that ended up being David Freese.
I can’t see him trading Carroll or Miles because (1) their salaries are negligible, (2) they would yield nothing or next-to-nothing in return, and (3) Ned likely thinks they are better choices than anyone else in the organization at the moment.
Furcal is different, because Furcal makes a lot of money. I do not know what role that will play in who goes on the block or what kind of return Ned demands.
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He did exactly what BH suggests with Manny
by Michael White on Jul 9, 2011 7:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I had just looked him up. (Bevens, sp). Losing Yankee pitcher in that WS game, off of whom Cookie Lavagetto. pinch hitting for second baseman Eddie Stanky, hit the walkoff double in the bottom of the 9th, scoring two pinch runners Al Hionfriddo and Eddie Miksis (anyone ever hear of them?) running for centerfielder Carl Furillo and Pete Reiser who had both walked. (Reiser was pinch hitting in the pitcher’s spot.) So second pinch hitter of the inning batting in two pinch runners, one of whom was running for a pinch walker.
But the name I like best is that of the Yankee second baseman: Snuffy Stirnweiss.
Gionfriddo
Made the catch in that Series that gave Boomer Berman a career. In 1951 Miklis hit a potential gsme winner but Jackie Robinson caught the ball. Robby than hit a HR and that propelled the Dodgers into the plsyoff.
By playoff, you must mean the game with the Giants that had the “shot blah-blah-blah”. So what team was Miksis on then that the Dodgers were playing for their last regular-season game? The Yankees must have traded him away since two years previously.
I was asking bh which team Miksis played for in 1951 when Robinson caught his hit and then hit a HR himself to put the Dodgers into that playoff with the Giants.
I looked it up. The last game of the regular season (actually game 155, since they had had to replay a game vs. Boston Braves which was tied after 12 innings and abandoned) on September 30 was against the Phillies. Miksis wasn’t on the Phillies, nor in that game. But that does sound like the game bh was talking about. Jackie Robinson hit a home run in the top of the 14th inning (in Philly) that put Dodgers ahead 9-8, and Bud Podbielan held firm in the bottom half. Since Giants also won their last regular game that day, Dodgers and Giants were still tied with 96 games each, and went into their famous 3-game playoffs.
So what was the caught ball? In the bottom of the 13th inning, two out, just after Podbielan came in to relieve Don Newcomb, Phillies’ Eddie Pellegrini hit a flyball to center field “caught CF” – caught by Duke Snider. If he hadn’t caught it, the Phillies would have won the game on a walkoff and the Giants would have won the season, no playoffs.
I think that’s what you must of been thinking of, BH? Duke Snider caught Pellegrini?
OR – at the bottom of the 12th, with Newk still pitching, two outs, a lineout from Eddie Waitkus was caught at “2B (SS-2B)”, which sounds to me like it was caught by Reese, not Robinson, at second.
Early in the 1951 season, Miksis was traded by Brooklyn to the Cubs, where he stayed through 1956. The Cubs don’t enter into the end of the 1951 season at all. The Dodgers played the Cubs last time on Sept. 17. I think you must be thinking of something else involving Miksis, not the final regular game of 1951.
Whew.
OR – at the bottom of the 12th, with Newk still pitching, two outs, a lineout from Eddie Waitkus was caught at "2B (SS-2B)", which sounds to me like it was caught by Reese, not Robinson, at second.
No, that doesn’t make sense. You don’t have to be on a base to catch a lineout. So the lineout must have been caught by 2B – Jackie Robinson. From the BR Explanations “In some cases, batted ball location and type will be indicated within parentheses.” So “(SS-2B)” would just refer to the general location. Since pitcher Robin Roberts was on 3rd base, that catch might well have saved a walk-off run in the 12th as well, if it had escaped into the outfield. So you might have been thinking of that catch.
I just spotted something really unusual about that WS game, especially for those times.
The Dodgers starting pitcher was one Harry Taylor. But he gave up two singles (Sternweiss, Henrich) and a fielder’s choice (Yogi Berra) that was safe on Pee Wee Reese’s error to fill the bases, and then walked Joe di Maggio to give up a run, and was immediately pulled from the game in the first inning, bases loaded and no one out. You don’t hear about that sort of thing happening much in those days, but world series games were exceptions, evidently.
He was relieved by Hal Gregg, who pitched 7 innings, relieved in 8th by Hank Behrmann. Then in 9th after one out, two singles (including pitcher Bevens) and a fielder’s choice, with Yankees now on 2nd and 3rd bases, Behrmann was relieved by Hugh Casey, who got a double play out of Henrich to end the innings with no run scored. Sounds like nowadays. Yankees were still leading Dodgers 2-1 in middle of the 9th. With two flyouts and Furillo walking, Gionfriddo (pinch running for Furillo) stole second, and Bevens intentionally walked Pete Reiser (smart) to pitch to whoever was going to PH for Stanky instead. Miksis PR for Reiser. Then came Cookie Lavagetto’s walkoff double (don’t know the count), double RBI hitting in Gionfriddo and Miksis, with two out, to win the game 3-2. Wow, what a finish.
So Kemp has now become the “leading” NL outfielder in three short days. He’s now the only one who was voted in. Let’s hope he remembers how to hit by then – it would be nice to see him whack one.
I'm assuming we played a double-header
between the three days of September 9-11, 1966 to reach our 4 straight shutouts
Yep sunday.
Osteen, Regan, Koufax and Miller- shutouts.
Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.
in the heat of a wild pennant race, must have been a wild weekend
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
1966 was crushing
To my ten year old mind. I thought the Dodgers were invincible. I think that series was the first emotional setback in my life.
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
After watching this one in the MLBTV archives (had to wait due to delay) all I can say is... HI-larious.
Also, the MLBTV player needs a spoiler alert, since I could tell in the 9th that the Dodgers won (and got a hit presumably) before it happened, since you could tell there was only enough time for one more half inning after the Padres went down scoreless. So I was happy already and just curious as to who would break it up. Uribe, natch (got a hanger from Gregerson). And of course, Navarro buys himself more time with the game winner ;-) but I’m happy for him and the Dodgers. Would feel bad for the Padres if: A) I didn’t already dislike them and B) Dodgers season wasn’t such a fat bummer already so screw ’em.
Also, kudos to Rubby for mostly looking terrific and they pulled him at the right time (given his last game).
Let’s go for the 1-0 sweep tomorrow!
Off to BBQ now.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
that’s more like a logic alert than a spoiler alert. Caution, if you have critical thinking skills, you will know how this one ends.
Me smart then! Me not fail MLBTV test! Too smart for com-puter! ;)
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
I
Will give Linda C. Your love
by bhsportsguy on Jul 9, 2011 8:23 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
is that Freaks and Geeks thing tonight?
or are you going out on a date with Lindsay Weir? ;-)
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
(I meant the Largo thing, not the F&G thing of course... would love to make one of those at some point!)
Just listened to Paul F Tompkins’ live podcast from there which was quite amusing.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
FYI
I am unhippest dressed dude at Largo.
by bhsportsguy on Jul 9, 2011 8:22 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I don't do anything anymore
except play with the kids and work for the man.
I shouldn’t even be typing this. Now that the kids are in bed, I should be working. After all, it’s Saturday night — there is work to be done.
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They did it
Explaining Paul F is still in the liquor cabinet. Paget was very funny and utterly charming. Linda C will be back in August, she is continuing to be in the Marshal from Mars sketch.
Paul F said he will be back for August.
Giants v Mets
So I’m at this game. Giants suck…but they are leading.
"They say The Jet's lost a step or two... but I wouldn't be surprised to see some fireworks here."
by DodgerSF on Jul 9, 2011 8:28 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
poor dear
hopefully Wilson will blow it again
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 9, 2011 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions
hope so too!
hey Giants have lost 3 out of last 5 so… well, another one would be nice. Make it happen DSF.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Btw thought Buck and McCarver were actually okay overall today, even relatively fair in their analysis buut...
man did Buck sound totally bored to be there or what? Not to blame him entirely as the game wasnt exactly full of fireworks, but even from the very start he just sounded like, yawn, ho hum, looking forward to watching Pay Per View when I get to hotel…
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
he has some kind of throat problem
where he can’t raise his voice.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
Antisteineritis?
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like Hawk Harrelson
with the opposing team doing all the exciting things
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
Giants did not lose
"They say The Jet's lost a step or two... but I wouldn't be surprised to see some fireworks here."
by DodgerSF on Jul 9, 2011 8:48 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
sorry
:(
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 9, 2011 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Thanx Dioner
for winning those three games against the Marlins, Astros, and now Padres with your lethal bat and fearsome swing. Now get the fuck off my team.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
Heh.
Could still happen. Eric was saying with AJ Ellis kind of entrenched in starts and pitchers doing well with him it may be hard to send him back down when Rod is ready.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
The real problems facing the Dodgers are so insurmountable that the question of “what are they going to do at catcher when Barajas comes back” just might be the biggest addressable problem faced by the team.
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eh, not insurmountable
it will be all cleared up by 2013 at the very latest, but of course we hope that new ownership can take foot by early next year. I don’t think that MLB will let the Dodgers twist in the wind like the Expos…while I think Montreal got screwed, the Expos franchise was nowhere near as important, nor the Montreal market, as the Dodgers and Los Angeles are. Texas is a good model going forward.
We still have good talent on the farm, and this year’s performance by the minor league prospects has been exceptional. At the very worst we lose Kemp out of all of this, get picks (or a haul of prospects) and reload.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
Agree with all of that, of course. I meant problems for 2011.
And — since I can’t let a moment go by without being pessimistic — yes, Texas is a good model going forward — but before they can be Texas, they have to avoid being Houston.
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by Humma Kavula on Jul 9, 2011 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Well said
Yeah I’m honestly not that worried about the future, given the farm system seems strong (of course, not knowing if Ned will still be the GM next year or if it’ll be someone else, and not knowing who t hat person will be, or what the budget will be… all that makes it hard to feel anything about the future either negative or positive…) But overall find much to be hopeful about for the future. But yeah there are some addressable problems and some that really arent addressable. Or at least ones that fall under t he Rearrange the Deckchairs on the Titanic category.
I will be curious to see what moves the make just this coming week with the break coming up. Yet alone what happens by end of the month. But I imagine we may see at least one minor league familiar face back up this month, and a possible DFA or two.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
"He can’t run from me."
— Matt Kemp on Dioner Navarro
by Taylor Maricle on Jul 9, 2011 9:02 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
This time Navarro tried to run away, but Kemp caught him.
“He can’t run from me,” said Kemp.
“I was going fast, but realized he was going to catch me so I stopped,” said Navarro, whose job could be in jeopardy with Rod Barajas’ return next week. “He punched me in the ribs, but I take it.”
by Taylor Maricle on Jul 9, 2011 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I wish they could trade Barajas
may sound bizarre but I actually kind of like both Navarro and Ellis
Zach Lee
Shall we say, a sub par outing tonight:
4.2 IP, 2 H, 3 R (1 ER), 4 BB, 5 K
The walks are worrisome, but I’m not jumping off the ledge just yet.
only one earned run though
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 9, 2011 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions
NOT A HARANG BUT A....
When history called - “Yeah, you rang?” -
Navarro, he blasted a bang
And the Dodgers eked out
A win, that, no doubt,
Surely saved the whole team a harangue.
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by Humma Kavula on Jul 9, 2011 9:40 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Strike fail.
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limerick win
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 9, 2011 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Can’t wait to be back full time. Still gonna be about two or three weeks, at least, of on-again-off-again.
But really — I mean this sincerely — I cannot wait to pick up the limerick thread. I miss it, I miss the outlet, and not having the time to follow the games and try to be funny/amusing (YMMV) about them is kinda killing me. But this busy time will be over soon.
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I would be happy to — once I come up for air.
And bigcpa, if you happen to read this, I haven’t forgotten your lunch offer, either. I would really love that.
Just want to get through this. So swamped.
I’m doing work right now. it’s this conversation and work. What a Saturday night.
Things will be better soon.
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by Humma Kavula on Jul 9, 2011 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Houston might have the #1 pick locked down. 31 games under .500…
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jul 9, 2011 10:43 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
I know nothing about prospects. Is the guy who is the concensus #1 pick a good bet?
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by Humma Kavula on Jul 9, 2011 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions
who knows
by next June, rankings are so tenuous and fluid…but right now it seems like Lance McCullers Jr., son of ex-MLB pitcher, is the top guy. RHP, electric arm, yada yada.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
that's sort of my worry with the "silver lining: dodgers get 4th pick!" mentality
that even had me hearing some Dodger fans rooting for them to lose more games so they could nail that pick down. Well getting a blue chip prospect would be awesome, but in baseball — same with all sports really but especially baseball imho — draft there seems very few “sure things” out there. Dodgers would get a very promising player if they are picking in the top 5, but hey Matt Kemp was a, what, 6th rounder?
They can get good guys anywhere in 1st round, esp if they have more money next year, and in the 21st round for that matter.
Not sure why I’m rambling about this now, preaching to the choir, etc. Just sayin’. ;)
Night.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Not to mention: the Dodgers’ bankruptcy/owner situation puts a damper on the whole rebuilding scenario. It may be that there is no money to go over slot for a player. If that is the case — on top of the fact that any pick may not pan out — then ohhh boy.
And this is coming from somebody who advocated, and still probably advocates, a rebuilding scenario.
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by Humma Kavula on Jul 9, 2011 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions
they're talking about
a global draft and hard slotting as soon as next year. So expanding the pool to DR, Cuba, Japan, etc. would eliminate the international FA bonuses and the hard slotting would mean no more Zach Lees, so the worst teams would benefit. That would help us if we continue to suck.
Per UD’s point, true that great players can be found as diamonds in the rough, but overall you’re more likely to draft a great player in the top of the first round than anywhere else.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
Why would they have any say in how MLB handles their incoming free agents (which is what is happening with a draft)? Just look at how it works in basketball. The players get drafted and those NBA teams hold the rights to those players, but that’s all it is. The players still have to fulfill their contracts to their current teams overseas unless they pay whatever their buyout is. In the NBA the teams are allowed to pay $1.5 mil towards that buyout but that wasn’t something negotiated with those leagues. It’s something that the NBA and NBPA agreed on. The foreign leagues don’t care who pays them the buyout as long as it is paid.
The only thing that would be a problem for MLB is the rare situations where teams have to pay Japanese teams insane amounts of money via bidding. Not including those few players wouldn’t make or break this draft idea.
With that said, there are probably plenty of things that can (probably will) cause this to not be negotiated into the next CBA.
why not?
they just say hey, if you come to play in the MLB this is the team that you can play for. No one is being forced to come to america or play for the MLB.
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
The first few picks are where you get either
The golden upside guys like, say, Gerrit Cole or the high floor 80% guaranteed major leaguers like Hultzen.
by Taylor Maricle on Jul 9, 2011 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions
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