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Six-Run Lead Not Enough For Dodgers To Prevent Sweep

Staked to a 6-0 lead, Chad Billingsley did not make it through the fifth inning on Wednesday.

The Dodgers exploded for five runs in the first inning and built a 6-0 lead, but that wasn't enough, as the Phillies stormed back against Chad Billingsley and the bullpen to win 9-8 and complete their three-game sweep in Los Angeles.

Billingsley struggled from the outset, needing 15 pitches to retire the first batter of the game, Jimmy Rollins. Billingsley threw 30 pitches in the first and allowed a pair of baserunners, but escaped with no damage. The Phillies threatened again in the third inning, but Rollins was thrown out at the plate on a bizarre 8-3-2 putout as Rollins tried to sneak home on Matt Kemp's throw to the infield on a fly out.

All the pecking away by Philadelphia got to Billingsley in the fourth, as he allowed three runs, two on a home run by Hunter Pence, whom Vin Scully aptly noted "doesn’t do anything gracefully, but constantly does something." The Phillies scored two more in the fifth to chase Billingsley and pull within 6-5. A pair of fielding errors by his corner infielders didn't do Billingsley any favors, but it wasn't as if he pitched well at all.

Billingsley struck out none for the fourth time in his career, continuing a disturbing trend. Over his last three starts, Billingsley has 10 walks and just six strikeouts in 16 innings. Since the beginning of June, Billingsley has walked more than he struck out in four of his 12 starts, and had equal number of walks and strikeouts in two other games during that span.

Even when Hong-Chih Kuo had a positive moment, he could not avoid the wrath of the Phillies. Kuo, pitching for the first time in 10 days, got the final two outs of the fifth inning and looked better than he has in about a month. However, Kuo was sent out to begin the sixth inning and was pulled after issuing a walk to Ben Francisco, who scored later in the inning. Kuo has allowed at least one run in each of his last five appearances. That is the longest streak by a Dodger reliever since -- gulp -- Brett Tomko in 2007.

When Kuo left, the Dodgers still held a 7-5 lead, but that changed on Blake Hawksworth's watch. Singles by Rollins and Chase Utley tied the score, and Ryan Howard untied it with a two-run home run.

Lost in the debacle of the loss was the fact that the Dodger offense actually produced today. Juan Rivera and Matt Kemp led the way, Rivera with three hits including his second home run as a Dodger, a three-run home run in the first inning that gave the Dodgers a surmountable 4-0 lead. Kemp had four hits and stole his 30th base of the season.

For the third straight game, the Dodgers brought the tying run to the plate against Philadelphia closer Ryan Madson, but for the third straight day Madson picked up the save.

Notes

  • Billingsley has walked 9.61% of the batters he has faced this season, the fifth-worst walk rate among 58 qualified starters in the National League.
  • Antonio Bastardo inherited two runners with one out in the bottom of the seventh inning for the Phillies, and he left both stranded. Bastardo on the season has inherited 29 runners, and only two have scored, the third-best percentage in the National League among pitchers have inherited 10 or more runners (Brian Sanches of Florida has stranded all 19 inherited runners this season, while Michael Stutes of the Phillies has stranded all 10)
  • The Dodgers are off Thursday, and begin a three-game series against Houston Friday night, with Nathan Eovaldi making his Dodger Stadium debut against Bud Norris.

WP - Kyle Kendrick (7-5): 1 IP, 2 hits, 1 run, 2 strikeouts

LP - Blake Kawksworth (2-3): 1/3 IP, 3 hits, 3 runs, 1 strikeout

Sv - Ryan Madson (22): 1 IP, 2 hits, 1 run

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Oh, yeah -

And Chad can’t pitch with a lead.

by Talka1ot on Aug 10, 2011 3:54 PM PDT reply actions  

If we needed a win today, after three innings it was evident Bills didn’t have it. Also if you needed a win you wouldn’t throw the present Kuo. I’m a little surprised Mattingly didn’t do a bit more to win, but he may have his reasons.

by Gen3blue on Aug 10, 2011 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

When you have to get 4 2/3 IP out of your bullpen, you are going to use a lot of those guys.

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by David Young on Aug 10, 2011 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was very surprised to see Kuo, actually.

As bad as he has been, I figured he would be relegated to mop-up duty or really any big game until he could become some semblance of his former self.

by Talka1ot on Aug 10, 2011 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hawk has been money, he simply didn’t have it.

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by meercatjohn on Aug 10, 2011 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

You cannot have this bullpen

pitch 6 innings.

Who else is supposed to pitch today, I don’t think he was saving anybody?

They don’t have Jansen right now. You think Lindblom should have come in the 4th inning.

by bhsportsguy on Aug 10, 2011 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

the bullpen is poorly constructed

You need 1 guy that can be a long man (usually a former starter), but the Dodgers just have a bunch of 1 inning dudes.

In games like this, you’re fucked.

by Joey Joe on Aug 10, 2011 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

So we are regretting letting Lance Cormier go? ;-)

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by David Young on Aug 10, 2011 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Evidently Joey Joe wanted Ely to stick around since he’s the only one who meets that profile.

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by meercatjohn on Aug 10, 2011 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or Eveland’s contract purchased.

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by David Young on Aug 10, 2011 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

but its been that way all season

Almost every team carries 1 long reliever for blow out games.

And yes – i’d rather it be Ely, but it just as easily have been Haegar..
Or Dana Eveland.

Someone like that.

by Joey Joe on Aug 10, 2011 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

His name was Padilla

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by meercatjohn on Aug 10, 2011 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

He lived on the second floor.

by Grimjack on Aug 10, 2011 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

long relievers usually blow anyways

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Aug 10, 2011 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

that is why they are long relievers because they are only there for when a starters blows and the game is usually out of hand.

Billz didn’t get it done.
Defense didn’t get it done
Hawk didn’t get it done.

I don’t see how the bullpen construction lost this game.

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by meercatjohn on Aug 10, 2011 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes. You should have a long man or mop up who can do 3 or 4 innings without giving up 4 runs or someone like Ely. But I quess the Dodgers knew that when they loaded up on two extra mediocre starters and though supposedly inning eaters, they both went down for the count. I’m kind of glad I seem to have a mental block on their names. wait—Garland and Padilla. So no one is really to blame.

by Gen3blue on Aug 10, 2011 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

No one is to blame

I bet IVDown likes this.

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by David Young on Aug 10, 2011 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

too slow for my liking

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 10, 2011 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

This one is pretty good so far :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TddFnTB_7IM

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 10, 2011 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Close but no cigar

we all got outscored by 4 in 3 games we just need one more bat like when we used to have manny to help finish out the fames

by Ben Delbick on Aug 10, 2011 3:56 PM PDT reply actions  

Or have the pitching staff give up a little less than 16 runs in three games.

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by David Young on Aug 10, 2011 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Team built entirely around pitching bad at pitching.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Aug 10, 2011 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lilly, giving me the big GFY, was pretty good.

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by David Young on Aug 10, 2011 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

He did give up a home run to a pitcher and a stolen base. I don’t think that was much of a GFY

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by meercatjohn on Aug 10, 2011 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I mean he pitched well but the two area’s you touched on were in play

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by meercatjohn on Aug 10, 2011 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

1 HR, 8 IP – his HR rate went down!

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by David Young on Aug 10, 2011 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hunter Pence and his unorthodox approach to baseball by Tim Brown

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by meercatjohn on Aug 10, 2011 3:56 PM PDT reply actions  

Dang, I have always liked Pence

KCAL! FTMFW!

by robotmadeofnails on Aug 10, 2011 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Me to, like Delias I wish we had made a play for him.

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by meercatjohn on Aug 10, 2011 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wonder what it would have taken.

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by David Young on Aug 10, 2011 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

a broken rudder

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by meercatjohn on Aug 10, 2011 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

a three-run home run in the first inning that gave the Dodgers a surmountable 4-0 lead

Twisting the knife with a nice turn of phrase..

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by meercatjohn on Aug 10, 2011 3:57 PM PDT reply actions  

Andre missed the fun today.

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by meercatjohn on Aug 10, 2011 3:57 PM PDT reply actions  

The

Dodgers are now 3-2 when scoring 8 runs

by bhsportsguy on Aug 10, 2011 3:58 PM PDT reply actions  

I hope they are knocked out of the playoffs by the NL Central winner. Or the wild-card.

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by David Young on Aug 10, 2011 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hope they tank the rest of the way and somehow miss the playoffs

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by shaqfor3 on Aug 10, 2011 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

as ET would say...OUCH.

Tough loss. They choked, to be blunt. Both sorry and glad I missed most of it. And following it via phone is even more painful. A chance in every game but all they get is this lousy t shirt, er sweep. Sigh. On to my doctor appt. I need it!

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by underdog on Aug 10, 2011 4:02 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Sweep

with facepalm. We suck.

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by David Young on Aug 10, 2011 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Breaking news
Dodgers Los Angeles
Dee Gordon a.k.a. @SkinnySwag9 will be placed on the 15-day DL with a shoulder contusion.

by silverwidow on Aug 10, 2011 4:03 PM PDT reply actions  

Time to call up Jesus.

by silverwidow on Aug 10, 2011 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is Uribe eligible/ready? I guess he hasn’t even had a rehab yet.

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by David Young on Aug 10, 2011 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Of course.

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by David Young on Aug 10, 2011 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Call up Sands.
Put him at 1b.

Rivera/Gwynn platoon in LF.

There’s no sense in playing Loney anymore, nor playing Sands at AAA.

Is it bad that Velez becomes one of the more interesting things about the team the longer his streak goes? I have this saturday the 13th his first hit.

by Joey Joe on Aug 10, 2011 4:03 PM PDT reply actions  

this

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by shaqfor3 on Aug 10, 2011 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sands isn't even hitting well in AAA right now

yet you think he will hit well in the majors atm?

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by nolander on Aug 10, 2011 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

AAA stats dont matter

so who cares..

we know loney sucks.
he has no future with the team.

let sands play..i dont care if jerry goes 2 for 100

by Joey Joe on Aug 10, 2011 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good AAA stats don’t matter, outlier great ones and ‘really not all that great no matter where you’re playing’ ones do.

"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully

by G.Scott on Aug 10, 2011 6:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dee-L
Dodgers Los Angeles Dodgers
Dee Gordon a.k.a. @SkinnySwag9 will be placed on the 15-day DL with a shoulder contusion.

by Talka1ot on Aug 10, 2011 4:03 PM PDT reply actions  

wonderful

Chukwudiebere Maduabum FTW!!!!!!!
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by shaqfor3 on Aug 10, 2011 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

That sucks but what they should do is call up DeJesus and let him play full time.

by Joey Joe on Aug 10, 2011 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Late Night?

The Giants went down to A ball and threw a guy into the fire, so why not?
Just shooting baskets blindfolded here.

by Talka1ot on Aug 10, 2011 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have never seen the Dodgers call someone up from A ball.

by silverwidow on Aug 10, 2011 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

That is like shooting baskets blindfolded with a beach ball that is bigger then the rim.

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by meercatjohn on Aug 10, 2011 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

lemmerman can beat

Eugenio for 20..

not that thats a requisite for being a good major leaguer…but perhaps making this dodger team it might be.

by Joey Joe on Aug 10, 2011 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

“Brian Sabean did it” not really a good argument.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Aug 10, 2011 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Player in question hitting below .200, doesn’t help it much either

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by meercatjohn on Aug 10, 2011 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

He has two rings. Two rings in two boxes.

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by David Young on Aug 10, 2011 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

1 cock ring and……………………

by Grimjack on Aug 10, 2011 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Going to be a long night, day and night, day for Mattingly and Ned.

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by meercatjohn on Aug 10, 2011 4:09 PM PDT reply actions  

At least we have Friday Nitro to look forward to.

by silverwidow on Aug 10, 2011 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’ll be having a MRI by Sunday

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by meercatjohn on Aug 10, 2011 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

You do wonder

given how Matt reacted (intially to his two year contract), Ethier while an all-star has not progressed like you would like after his 2-year deal, Broxton getting hurt and now Bills not elevating himself, do you still pursue extensions with Kemp (probably won’t get it but explore it) and Kershaw. You probably still try but I would help if someone would actually perform well once they got some security.

by bhsportsguy on Aug 10, 2011 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

kemp and kershaw are elite players

of course you extend them.

Broxton, Billingsley, Ethier were never on their levels to begin with (neither skill nor potential)

by Joey Joe on Aug 10, 2011 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

46 games in 48 days

starting friday night..

Probably going to need a new starter or two if EO’s innings are limited

by Joey Joe on Aug 10, 2011 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

What else can go wrong

wait…don’t tell me, I’d like it to be a surprise

"show me a hero and I'll show you a tragedy"

by Alexp11 on Aug 10, 2011 4:11 PM PDT reply actions  

Kershaw becomes Jason Schmidt circa 2007?

by silverwidow on Aug 10, 2011 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kershaw becomes Kazmir

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by meercatjohn on Aug 10, 2011 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kemp breaks hand stealing 35th base

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by meercatjohn on Aug 10, 2011 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

kershaw or billingsley hurting their arms…thats about it.

Protect those guys, let the kids/veteran riff raff play out the string…

by Joey Joe on Aug 10, 2011 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dodgers get hot, win 12 in a row, end up being just good enough that they have no protected pick. Ned signs lousy Type A free agent, Dodgers have no pick in 2012.

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by meercatjohn on Aug 10, 2011 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Somehow, I did not know that Tony Reagins is African-American.

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by David Young on Aug 10, 2011 4:14 PM PDT reply actions  

You never saw the Del Taco Pictures?

by Grimjack on Aug 10, 2011 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Apparently not, just heard the story.

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by David Young on Aug 10, 2011 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

The best part is that they did not make a big deal of it when he got the gig. Baby steps sometimes add up to real progress.

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by meercatjohn on Aug 10, 2011 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree with that.

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by David Young on Aug 10, 2011 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kind of glad

that I got busy when it was 5-0 and missed the rest of the game. Looking forward to the Florida v Alabama game that is just starting.

by Xeifrank on Aug 10, 2011 4:18 PM PDT reply actions  

For real, College Football is starting?

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by meercatjohn on Aug 10, 2011 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Made an easy $50 on this game. Sorry kids. :)

by Xeifrank on Aug 10, 2011 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Our Idiot Brother

goes into release later this month. The title character’s name is “Ned”. I expect a landslide of cheap bad jokes in the TBLA comments.

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by David Young on Aug 10, 2011 4:20 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

I expect to skip that movie.

by Grimjack on Aug 10, 2011 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

The preview seems pretty bad.

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by David Young on Aug 10, 2011 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry for asking but what is an “idiot brother”.

by Xeifrank on Aug 10, 2011 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Presumably a stupid man with siblings.

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by David Young on Aug 10, 2011 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

haha – I thought it was a software release from Dave’s company called “Our Idiot Brother”. Maybe some GPS tracking device software to find dumb family members?

by Xeifrank on Aug 10, 2011 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

Too easy.

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by David Young on Aug 10, 2011 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

GFY

and I think you comment more than “semi-regurarly”

by Greg Stephen on Aug 10, 2011 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t appreciate my brothers making a movie about me

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by meercatjohn on Aug 10, 2011 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

You have a sister that looks like this?

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by David Young on Aug 10, 2011 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Only when they put a dress on me

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by meercatjohn on Aug 10, 2011 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I read the top line

and thought it was a dual post from Kelly & Eric

by Greg Stephen on Aug 10, 2011 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

F it

Fine, next year let’s clean house. Dump everyone outside of Kemp and Kershaw, probably have to keep anyone signed past 2012 (I am talking Lilly, Bills, Guerrier and Uribe). DFA Loney and Kuo. Trade Ethier for a bunch of A/AA guys. Play Sands at either 1B or LF and DeJesus at 2B. You could try trading Bills but he is still cheaper than most starters next year.

I guess you can add the kiddie corps bullpen guys since they will be cheap Guerra, Lindblom, Elbert and Jansen.

Guessing that McCourt will still be embroiled in litigation probably means no changes in management going into next year.

Crowds drop to under 30K, no one will want to build a regional sports network around that.

Oh and Vin retires to spend time with the family.

But hey, at least they will get another top ten pick

by bhsportsguy on Aug 10, 2011 4:24 PM PDT reply actions  

BH has joined the dark side.

by silverwidow on Aug 10, 2011 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

It is getting storm cloud dark in here.

Right now, though, it is hard to imagine what the payroll for 2012 might be, what with all the bankruptcy and divorce uncertainty.

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by David Young on Aug 10, 2011 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

'McCourt will still be embroiled in litigation'

There is no hope for the Dodgers next season If McCourt is still involved as an owner of the team.
This will be a dark side where no light exists.
Under such conditions, the team has no chance to compete.

by 68elcamino427 on Aug 10, 2011 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why stop there, if you are going to punt you have to trade Kemp right now unless you sign him this winter and you and I know that is not going to happen.

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by meercatjohn on Aug 10, 2011 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yup

Houston already traded Hunter Pence and he has more control years left than Kemp does.

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by David Young on Aug 10, 2011 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey

I said that back in July and no one wanted to go there.

I may have even said he is better player than Pence but you have him for only 1+ year (without extension) so you might not get much more for him.

In reality, based on years of control, Kershaw is a better pitcher than Jiminez but you probably would be really lucky to get what Oakland go for Haren.

by bhsportsguy on Aug 10, 2011 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry Craig, I’ve been saying to trade Kemp since he blew up since I feel he will not sign an extension with us.

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by meercatjohn on Aug 10, 2011 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

We should have traded them for McCutchen

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by nolander on Aug 10, 2011 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Duly

noted.

But I just think they are screwed if they can’t promote Kemp and Kershaw for next year.

by bhsportsguy on Aug 10, 2011 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes

from a promotional point they can’t trade the diamonds

They already have the fight of the lives to retain STH, if they so much as trade either of them, the fight is lost. Yet as David said payroll could easily be in jeopardy when the shit hits the fan with the mass exodus of STH no matter what they do.

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by meercatjohn on Aug 10, 2011 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s always darkest right before the tornado blasts the shit out of everything.

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by David Young on Aug 10, 2011 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve been on the blow-up-the-team bandwagon for a long time, and I admit, I hadn’t thought about that. I advocated signing Kemp as part of the blow-up — gotta keep Kershaw, Kemp, and the untradeable guys under contract — but I didn’t consider Kemp not signing. Hmm.

Yes, this might be right. It sucks, he’s my favorite player. But if you can’t extend him this offseason, you really have to think about trading Kemp as you blow it up.

Wow, that sucks to think about.

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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Aug 10, 2011 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

You may or may not be talking outta your ass. But I kinda agree. Can’t afford shit so might as well start over. You have your conerstore. Just try to build around. Either way, it’s a giant clusterfuck. Go Dodgers!!

by Skunkburner on Aug 10, 2011 4:30 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

You’re all Hummas now!

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by Humma Kavula on Aug 10, 2011 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rubby getting injured

and McCourt continuing to own the team with all we now know about his financial situation… sigh

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by nolander on Aug 10, 2011 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

crowd will be under 30k regardless

but thats the best way to make the team better for the long term

by Joey Joe on Aug 10, 2011 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Richards so far: 12 pitches, 8 balls, 2 walks, 0 outs, 1 visit from pitching coach. #angels

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by nolander on Aug 10, 2011 4:28 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm sure this will make some of you happy

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by nolander on Aug 10, 2011 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hate seeing rookies fail in their first start… Unless they are a Giant.

by Julio Nievas on Aug 10, 2011 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or a phunking Philly.

by Skunkburner on Aug 10, 2011 4:31 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

I had two vouchers, each for a free ticket, from the Unocal offer earlier this season

Monday I night I exchanged them, but they gave me four total tickets instead of two for some reason. The free seats, which last year were in the hinterlands of the reserved deck, were in section 2, row M (for a mid-week game), not far from BH’s seats.

The Dodgers are really trashing their season-ticket holders. With all the discount tickets and two back-to-back losing seasons and continuing McCourt hatred, I’m with Phil in believing that this winter’s season tickets sales will be at an all-time low, or at least lowest in quite some time. If the Dodgers realistic projections are like that too, the player payroll for next year might be even lower than we might think.

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by David Young on Aug 10, 2011 4:30 PM PDT reply actions  

But Prince Fielder is available

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by meercatjohn on Aug 10, 2011 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

So is Jennifer Aniston. I’m getting neither.

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by David Young on Aug 10, 2011 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

The little dude in purple maybe. The giant vegan 1B, no way.

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by David Young on Aug 10, 2011 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I plan to send a note to my season ticket account rep asking what benefit is there in being a ticket holder if they plan to sell the same seats for less money during the season.

by bhsportsguy on Aug 10, 2011 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Speaking of that I wonder if the Laker / Clipper account reps are still employed?

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by meercatjohn on Aug 10, 2011 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

You should. Outside of the most premium locations, I don’t see the point either.

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by David Young on Aug 10, 2011 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I understand any STH irritation, but they really need to get butts in the seats. Wouldn’t you rather have fans around you then an empty stadium?

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by meercatjohn on Aug 10, 2011 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's fine

but I want to know do they plan to cut prices, add more goodies, what will do they do to keep season ticket holders buying tickets – free parking what?

by bhsportsguy on Aug 10, 2011 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Free parking?

I’m pretty sure Frank will never go for that :-(

by Greg Stephen on Aug 10, 2011 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mark Timmons:

Zach Lee: You can’t help but notice that the other Loons players know that Zach Lee is different. It’s that walk – the confidence – he moves like a gifted athelete (I guess that’s because he is). The other players revere him, speak glowingly of him and like me, know they are in the presence of greatness. Zach Lee is different. He has greatness written all over him. He is remarkably down-to-earth and level-headed and seems destined for the top of the Dodger Rotation in a year or two. Time will tell, but he’s a wonderful kid!

I like Lee, too, but that is some serious fellatio right there.

by silverwidow on Aug 10, 2011 4:32 PM PDT reply actions  

Man, and I thought you slurped the prospects.

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by David Young on Aug 10, 2011 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

If I was a diabetic I’d be flatlining

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by meercatjohn on Aug 10, 2011 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Reasons why you shouldn't read stuff Mark writes
* Hiroki Kuroda: Pitchers like Doc Halliday always pitch well enough to win. Pitchers like Hiroiki Kuroda just pitch bad enough to lose.

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by David Young on Aug 10, 2011 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mila Kunis: You can’t help but notice that the other actresses know that Mila Kunis is different. It’s that walk – the confidence – she moves like a gifted athelete (I guess that’s because she is). The other actors revere her, speak glowingly of her and like me, know they are in the presence of greatness. Mila Kunis is different. She has greatness written all over her. She is remarkably down-to-earth and level-headed and seems destined to go out with me in a year or two. Time will tell, but she’s a wonderful girl!

by Julio Nievas on Aug 10, 2011 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

So, I get home from work & running some errands

and the Dodgers are up 6-0 and I’ve gotten to listen to Vin on the radio. I do some stuff around the house, make dinner, and check the score afterwards. This team can take a big ’ol case of GFY. It is getting harder & harder to be a fan. As soon as Frank is shown the fucking door, I would love to believe that all will be right again, but am not so sure. I need to have a drink and chill the fuck out.

by Greg Stephen on Aug 10, 2011 4:36 PM PDT reply actions  

I would like to also point out

That I took a late lunch and saw the last few innings at home, but before that I was on audio only.

So, to sum up:

Me hearing Vin Scully: Dodgers outscored Phillies 7-0
Me hearing Charlie Steiner & Rick Monday: Philly 9-0

by Eric Stephen on Aug 10, 2011 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

So

win-win.
lose-lose.

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by David Young on Aug 10, 2011 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

make that 9-1 Philly with Steiner/Monday. I missed a run.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 10, 2011 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

If Barajas hits a home run, and we win 10 – 9 instead of losing 9 – 8, the comments here would be night and day even though not much would have changed regarding the future. IKIAFF

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by meercatjohn on Aug 10, 2011 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would still have been pissed about the shitty pitching/defense that led to the loss

When it’s not one thing it’s another.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 10, 2011 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s always something, as my Grandma Roseannadanna used to say.

/references ivdown doesn’t get

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Aug 10, 2011 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Giants are

now -13 runs for the season. The Diamondbacks won the west in 2007 and were -20 runs and the Padres in 2005 were -42 (when they won the division at 82-80).

by bhsportsguy on Aug 10, 2011 4:42 PM PDT reply actions  

The West is where Pythag dies a horrible death. Guess it does not take into account, great pitching, terrible hitting, getting creamed once in a while.

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by meercatjohn on Aug 10, 2011 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Giants are on their way to an historically bad offensive year

if they can average 4 one hundreths of less run less, they would be averaging their lowest runs per game since 1902. As it stands, their 3.46 is just a smidgen higher than the 3.43 they averaged in 1985 which is currently their San Francisco low.

Fortunately or unfortunately for the Dodgers while 3.64 runs per game is not even close to passable, they have other years in LA that out low that.

by bhsportsguy on Aug 10, 2011 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mind blowing that this could result in another world chamionship. Come on Diamondbacks

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Aug 10, 2011 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Velez

got two more? 0 for 21? We can watch this grow.

by berkowit28 on Aug 10, 2011 5:31 PM PDT reply actions  

we need a sidebar

"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully

by G.Scott on Aug 10, 2011 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Forget the sidebar, we need a regular bar, and whoever is pouring needs to make mine a double.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Aug 10, 2011 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

MacDougall

got 3 outs for 7 pitches in the 8th. Rollins, Victorino, Utley. Not too bad. Did anyone notice? Guerra was not the only good pitcher.

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