2012 Lottery Winner Preview
by Phil Gurnee on Aug 12, 2011 10:25 AM PDT
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PrintThe Houston Astros have won only 38 games making them by far the worst team in baseball in 2011 thus assuring them of having the 1st pick in the 2012 draft. Over the last two years they have traded away any asset they could get a return on (Berkman, Oswalt, Keppinger, Bourn, Pence) as they build toward the future.
Unlike another last place team they have jettisoned most of the veterans and pulled up player after player from their minor leagues. Heck they have even demoted young players who needed work and given their jobs to other prospects. Good bet most of the names being mentioned below are being heard about for the first time.
Future and present 24 year old 1st baseman Brett Wallace was sent back to AAA to "work on things" so the Astros moved Carlos Lee from LF to 1st base.
At 2nd base they released Bill Hall, sent Jeff Keppinger packing to the Giants and called up line drive hitting machine Jose Altuve. Altuve was not on anyone's radar entering 2011, yet the 21 year old destroyed two levels of minor league ball, making the unusual jump of starting the year in the Cal League, and ending up in the major leagues by July. Many felt he'd quickly be overmatched in the major leagues but after 21 games he's sporting a 117 OPS+ from the 2nd base position. Regression is due, since most of that is batting average driven but still nice to see the kid performing when brought up instead of doing the Sands/Gordon Mendoza dance.
Clint Barmes/Angel Sanchez split time at SS and while we like to make fun of Barmes he's got a 99 OPS+.
Just like 1st base, the Astro's sent the guy they thought was the future and present 3rd baseman Chris Johnson back to AAA to "work on things" and called up 22 year old switch hitting Jimmy Paredes to man the hot corner. Paredes came over in the Lance Berkman deal last year and so far in limited at bats he's got a smoking .870 OPS. Given that he has a career minor league OPS of .717, this mirage should dissipate quickly.
Just like the Dodgers, none of their catchers are anyone of note so we will not make any notes about them.
With Carlos Lee moving to 1st base, left field now belongs to J.D. Martinez who is their version of Jerry Sands. Martinez was drafted in the 20th round of the 2009 draft and is already their starting left fielder. Another of the young kids who has been brought up and immediately produced. In limited at bats he has an OPS of .970. Martinez like Altuve might be the real thing, he had a .958 OPS in the Texas League before his promotion but this is still a big jump for guy who was drafted a mere two years ago.
CF now belongs to the speedy Jason Bourgeois who replaced the speedy Bourn. Bourgeois was drafted in the second round by Texas way back in 2000. The 29 year old is trying to have a Pod like career with his late start.
RF is manned by two more kids brought up. Brian Bogusevic and Jack Shuck. Both are place holders for whoever eventually mans RF. Jordan Schafer who came over in the Bourn deal will either be the Astros CF or RF of the future, but he's currently hurt.
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Bud Norris , Wandy Rodriguez, and Jordan Lyles will toe the rubber against us. Everyone should be familiar with Wandy Rodriguez, the soft tossing lefty has made a career out of out performing his skill set. They tried to trade him this summer but his contract kept the bidding low so he's still an Astro. He's got a consistent line of 3.52 / 3.97 /3.67.
Bud Norris has been the best starter for the Astro's and probably gives them their best shot for a win going against Eovaldi. His TSL is 3.73 / 3.86 / 3.58, augmented by his 8.49 K/9 rate.
20 year old Jordan Lyles has made 13 starts this year and has done a decent job. His TSL is 4.88 / 4.12 /3.95. Lyles has made a bit of meteoric climb given the fact he drafted at age 17 with the 38th pick in 2008. He's got a five pitch arsenal but barely touches 90 with his fastball.
Baseball HQ Report on him:
Lyles has reached the majors quickly after being selected in the supplemental first round of the '08 draft. He possesses a clean, smooth arm and repeats his delivery consistently, giving him plus command and outstanding control of a four pitch arsenal. He pitches off his 88-94 mph fastball that he keeps low in the strike zone, though he often overthrows it, leaving it flat and susceptible to hard hit balls. His cutter can be tough to square up and his slider and change-up are above average offerings. While he doesn't project to a dominant strikeout artist, Lyles can register Ks with his secondary pitches. He prefers to hit his spots and force hitters to make contact early in the count. Lyles bypassed High-A in '10 and has a career 3.49 ERA, 2.5 Ctl, and 8.9 Dom.
Henry Sosa was the prize in the Jeff Keppinger trade and if he can become a regular member of the rotation, you'd have to like the return. Wouldn't take much imagination to figure that Henry Sosa will have a better major league career then J Happ who was the centerpiece of the Oswalt deal. Sosa made his major league debut this week so his start against us will be only his 2nd start. Course that probably won't happen, Sosa is strictly a two pitch pitcher, with a 92 MPH fastball and a 82 MPH slider. He throws those two pitches 99% of the time. Or did in his 1st start.
Baseball HQ Report on him:
Henry Sosa (RHP, HOU)
The Astros recalled the 26-year-old from Triple-A and he'll start on Wednesday, August 11. Sosa, once a promising prospect in the Giants organization, was acquired in mid-July '11. He has spent most of his career as a starter, though some scouts believe a full-time move to the bullpen would be ideal for his pure arm strength. Sosa is athletic and succeeds when he's able to command his plus 90-96 mph fastball to both sides of the plate. His second pitch is a hard curveball that serves as his strikeout offering. Sosa has effort in his high 3/4 delivery and often has significant command issues, especially when he overthrows his heater. His arm remains intriguing, but it may take awhile to fully develop the intricate parts of his pitching repertoire. He owns a career 3.53 ERA, 3.7 Ctl, and 8.1 Dom.
The Astros have enough mediocre pitching they might be able to keep the pathetic Dodger offense grounded but our threesome should prove to be too much for the Astro kiddy attack. Eovaldi will feel like he's still in AA facing the Astro lineup, Kershaw should have a field day, and maybe Kuroda can find a win on Sunday. A sweep is not out of the question but every team must feel they have a shot at a sweep when the Astros come to town.
As heartbreaking as the Dodger loss on Wednesday was, the Astros did them one better Thursday Night, losing 8 -5 in a game they led 5 - 3 in the bottom of the 9th when their closer Mark Melancon gave up a mammoth two-run blast to Paul Goldschmidt to tie the game. Then three more in the bottom of the 10th on Chris Young's shot sealed the deal. Suffice to say, the Dodgers should never feel out of any game this weekend.
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If the Dodgers can't take at least 2 out of 3 in this series
(I don’t care how closely the Astros played the DBacks), then… well, I’ve already given up on the season, but let’s just say they should win 2 out of 3.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
we better sweep
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
I LOVE ICED TEA!
Sorry guys…all I got out of this story is that I LOVE me some NESTEA!
Now back to your regular program and GO DODGERS!
I had no idea what this meant until now.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Aug 12, 2011 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions
True or False
Looking at the Astros is like looking into the future for Los Angeles.
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
False they have a much brighter future:)
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by Phil Gurnee on Aug 12, 2011 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Much brighter? How's that?
Cause they already have new ownership in place? (But the new owner seems kind of batty, too.) They acquired some new prospects in trade but not sure how good all of them are… and their farm system was in worse shape than ours. And isn’t their GM just as, or even worse, than ours?
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
LA could never be like Houston. I mean terrible traffic, oppressive heat, and a sprawling metropolis…..
well at least the Dodgers will never consider a train themed rebranding, abandon it, but then keep the train cause they already paid for it
by Josie Becker on Aug 12, 2011 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions
source?
The ballpark features a train theme, since the ball park was built on the grounds of the old Union Station.
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Los Angeles has oppressive heat?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Aug 12, 2011 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions
yes please, PLEASE TBLA, pick apart that comment, cause I worked SOOO hard on it and REALLY REALLY care about it
by Josie Becker on Aug 12, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
I think I’ll cut and paste this for future use when the picked upon feels the need to do some future nit picking of her own.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Aug 12, 2011 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions
I honestly want to know about the train thing though
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
I can’t find anything to support it, but I Josie swear that Astros were thinking of doing a full out rebrand when they moved into minute maid
by Josie Becker on Aug 12, 2011 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions
I would have thought that the orange juice name might get in the way of a total train theme rebranding. Who ever heard of a train named after orange juice? An orange, maybe. (The Sunkist Express? Jaffa Special?) Even just the “Maid” in the name gets in the way. The Flying Minute Maid. 20th Century Minute Maid Limited. The Minute Oriental Maid Express. The Minute Bullet Maid Train.
Nope. I rest my case.
this joke would work better if we where not old enough
to know the original name of the field
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
I think it had something to do with
Enron
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 12, 2011 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions
You know this stadium isn't like
60 years old right? Whippersnappers these days
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
with their damn
Zima, hula hoops and pac-man video games
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 12, 2011 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions
Wait, so boats can be Maids (a la “Maid of the Mist”) but trains cannot?
Not that I disagree. Trains are much more phallic than boats. I just want to make sure that as I apply gender to inanimate objects that I’m doing it correctly.
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Aug 12, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions
this comment has me laughing a lot right now, lol
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Take it out on people on the softball field
KCAL! FTMFW!
by robotmadeofnails on Aug 12, 2011 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions
Have we determined the date of the game? Also the time
I remember seeing something but I wasn’t sure if it was definite yet.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Where : Eagle Rock Rec Center
When : Aug 28th
Time : 3:00pm (game around 3:30 probably)…BBQ/Potluck after.
Food: Pot Luck, we will have a Google Doc Sign up Sheet
Main Game: Softball
Secondary Games:
Photo Opp’s : Everyone will get a chance for a Uribe Glad Hands Photo Opp
KCAL! FTMFW!
by robotmadeofnails on Aug 12, 2011 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions
We still have players that can be turned into useful assets, so false.
We pick another college reliever with our first pick and Kemp leaves town while we get nothing in return….then we can start to worry.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Aug 12, 2011 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Here to Astros in Five Easy Steps
- Dodgers get hot, finish 80-82, good for #16 pick
- Dodgers sign Type A closer, lose pick
- New CBA is signed; teams no longer receive compensation when losing FA
- Dodgers finish 81-81 in 2012
- Both Kemp and Ethier sign elsewhere; Dodgers get nothing
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Aug 12, 2011 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
We would still have to trade Kershaw in two years for Tyler Chatwood.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Aug 12, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
I might murder everyone in that scenerio
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Chances of those things happening
- Slim chance
- Practically no chance
- Could happen, but not that relevant (none of the Dodgers star minor leaguers were supplemental picks)
- Possible
- Probable
by Michael White on Aug 12, 2011 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
How about Dodger sign Prince Fielder, dies from vegetarian friendly mozzarella stick causes.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Aug 12, 2011 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions
More likely
Prince catches Mo Vaughn disease
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Is there a consensus for the 2012 number one pick?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
"the best pitching prospect I have ever seen"
— a scout
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
by Pure Azure on Aug 12, 2011 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
heh
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 12, 2011 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions
So if Eo carves these guys up
it doesn’t mean much?
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
i'll be happy
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 12, 2011 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions
Better then being carved up
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Aug 12, 2011 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions
No, any link? Wouldn’t any athlete hurt while performing the job they are paid to do be able to do such a thing?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Aug 12, 2011 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions
I just read it
in the multitude of Bankruptcy filings that the Dodgers made today.
by bhsportsguy on Aug 12, 2011 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Interesting
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Aug 12, 2011 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Well
lots of people sue companies as big as the Dodgers. The other thing that MLB must hate is that the Dodgers pretty much have to disclose everything in these filings so whatever mystery there is to their finances ultimately gets exposed.
by bhsportsguy on Aug 12, 2011 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Between the divorce and bankruptcy everything has been laid bare.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Aug 12, 2011 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Very. I would love to hear the details. Miller had one of the fastest ascensions I can ever remember in the minors. As the story goes, he was even considered for the famous E-Jax debut on his 20th birthday. He would’ve been 19, if memory serves.
Workman's comp
is usually pretty cut and dry, not sure how it works in a contractual setting.
by bhsportsguy on Aug 12, 2011 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions
i wonder how they pick those
i mean dodgers vs astros is not exactly THE GAME.
Baseball HQ note on the weekend matchup
And if you look at the home/road splits, each offense is even worse – HOU is 26th with a .670 OPS on the road, while LA has an anemic .642 OPS at home, good for 28th in MLB.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Maybe no one will win.
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Aug 12, 2011 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions
The spectators certainly won’t.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Aug 12, 2011 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Nitro will win
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Swag at win probabilities of the three games
Game 1: Norris vs Eovaldi (LAN 57%) << already know this one.
Game 2: Rodriguez vs Kershaw (LAN 65%)
Game 3: Lyles vs Kuroda (LAN 63%)
Which would give us …
23.3% chance of a sweep.
43.9% chance of taking two out of three games.
27.2% chance of losing two out of three games.
5.6% chance of getting swept
Does
43.9% chance of taking two out of three games.
mean
56.1% chance of winning only one game?
It would seem to, but that doesn’t seem right from the pitcher matchups. So why only 43.9% chance of taking 2 games out of three. Or do you mean a *specific" 2 games (like first and third, etc.). Surely the percentage would be different for each pair. But why <50% taking any 2 games, if each pitcher matchup is in Dodgers’ favor. I don’t get this.
It looks like there is a 94.4% chance of winning at least one game, is how I read that. (The percentages add up to 100%.)
If I’m right, that would mean a 67.2% chance of winning at least two games.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Aug 12, 2011 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh, there’s a chance, I’ll accept,
but unlikely the Dodgers get swept.
It’s most likely you’ll see
them take two of three
In the battle of who’s more inept.
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Aug 12, 2011 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
(applause)
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 12, 2011 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Meter in L3/4 is wonky. I’ll work on it. And L1/2 is… well, OK, but inelegant. I’d work on it, but I bet there’ll be another topic later.
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Aug 12, 2011 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
such a perfectionist :)
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 12, 2011 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I hold myself to the same standards that I hold others.
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by Humma Kavula on Aug 12, 2011 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions
In regards to Pujols from last thread
Does anyone else think he can/will make it to .300 average .375 obp and .575 slugging by the end of the season? I honestly think he has a good shot.
“If we hit that bull’s eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate”
by Ivdown on Aug 12, 2011 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
He'll have an ops over 900
thats all I’m willing to guess
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Right now it's already at .887
I think he’ll get .950 if he continues to mash it up.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
This is the first year since his rookie year that he's struck out more than he's walked
I’ve gotta imagine he’ll go over 1.0 for bb/k, he’s at .95 right now.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Check out pitch value types towards the bottom
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=1177&position=1B
It could be that Pujols is having such a non pujolsian year is because he isn’t mashing fastballs anywhere NEAR as much as he has literally every other year of his career.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
wasn't
he has been pujolsian again for awhile now
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Lowest OPS of his career by nearly .075 points still at this point. He’s been doing his thing for a while, but he started off so poorly that he still isn’t near his “worst” season offensively as of yet. Insane.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
And this is after healing a broken wrist in a week.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Aug 12, 2011 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Albert Pujols
all that is man
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
I completely forgot about the broken wrist
He is a machine, lol. Honestly Pujols is my all-time favorite player and his numbers have just astonished me from the get-go. I hope he can hold up these numbers or numbers like them for another 5-6 years, if not longer. I’d love to see him breaking all kinds of records by the end of his career.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Today's Daily News
contains a feature on Casey Blake. Says club more likely to use buyout then reup him
Also in the DN
Sun likely to rise in east, says a source familiar with solar thinking.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 12, 2011 11:19 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
it’s a feature on Blake, the man. the buyout thing was just a footnote : )
by Josie Becker on Aug 12, 2011 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions
and yet you...
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
But where will it set?
Check back in tomorrow for the full report.
by Michael White on Aug 12, 2011 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions
I still think if Blake can stay healthy another week
he is prime candidate to get dealt.
by bhsportsguy on Aug 12, 2011 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions
the waiveiest
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 12, 2011 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Man
If we can’t sweep the Astros we won’t sweep anyone this year. A friend is going to the Saturday game and asked me if it might be a game they would win, and I remember A. It was the Astros and B. It was Kershaw pitching, so I told her if ever there was a great game to go to for a win, that would be it.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
we have one sweep
of the Padres.
We have yet to win a series against the Astros, but that was before they traded most of their best players.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 12, 2011 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions
Totally forgot we were playing the Astros tonight
I thought Phil was just filling space writing about another sad bunch of players
Doc Ellis Ladies and Gentlemen?
Ellis argued with, and was maced by a Riverfront Stadium (that was the old stadium for the Reds) security guard on May 5, 1972. The guard said Ellis did not identify himself and “made threatening gestures with a closed fist”; Ellis countered that he was showing his World Series ring as evidence of his affiliation with the Pirates.10
Ellis attempted to hit every batter in the Cincinnati Reds lineup on May 1, 1974, as retaliation for the macing incident in Cincinnati two years earlier. Ellis hit Pete Rose, Joe Morgan, and Dan Driessen in the top of the first. The clean-up batter Tony Perez avoided Ellis’s attempts, instead drawing a walk, and after two pitches aimed at the head of Johnny Bench, Ellis was removed from the game by manager Danny Murtaugh. Ellis’s box score for the game reads: 0 IP, 0 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 0 K.
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
How in the world does he not get ejected?
KCAL! FTMFW!
by robotmadeofnails on Aug 12, 2011 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions
back then men where men
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
that's hilarious
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
So MLB.com has all caps 25% off today. Thinking of getting a Brooklyn Dodgers hat but cna’t decide on which one.
thanks for the heads up
I’ll have to see about getting one
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
need a new hat
guess I’m gbuing one today
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Nice
I was about to buy a new cap or two anyway.
by Michael White on Aug 12, 2011 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions
w/e
when he strikes out 27/9 in rancho this year, you’ll see the light. Dude is going to be the tits.
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
he is going to strike out the side in every inning
just you wait and see.
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Obviously not that, I was wondering if you thought he would be good.
by Michael White on Aug 12, 2011 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions
It wouldn't surprise me
Maybe I’m buying too much into him being a much different and better pitcher this year then he was in the past.
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
I wonder if Dodgers really do see him as a starter or if they see him as a good reliever
who will still be cheaper than bringing in a veteran reliever next year. Oh I don’t know if they’re thinking this way. But I would not be surprised to see him sort of on the fast track beyond just the Cal League geographical convenience thing that is going on now. Guess we’ll get a better sense next year.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
at this point I’ll be happy with a major league baseball player that does not suck.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Aug 12, 2011 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m counting on Scott Boras to know his stuff.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Aug 12, 2011 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions
If he's another Aaron Miller
it’s a bad pick. I saw the video of Logan White from March of this year raving about how deep of a draft this was and how it would be terrific (he was saying if they didn’t sign Lee last year at least they’d have 2 first-rounders in a great draft).
Then the spin around the draft, when Logan knew his hands would be tied, was him saying that it wasn’t as good as everyone was making it out to be.
We need corner infielders, hell infielders PERIOD. Taking another project was a disappointment, then following it up with more projects. Of course, if Logan had his druthers he’d have taken another HS arm like Stephenson.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
Los Angeles Dodgers drafted third basemen
Dick Gray – 1958
Jim Gillium – 59 – 61, 64
Ken McMullen – 63
Bill Sudakis – 69
Billy Grabarkowitz – 70
Steve Garvey – 71 – 72
Ron Cey – 73 – 82
German Rivera – 84
Dave Anderson – 85
Mickey Hatcher – 87
Jeff Hamilton – 88 -89
Dave Hanson – 92
Adrian Beltre – 98 – 04
Blake DeWitt – 08
Drafting and developing third basemen hasn’t been a strength for the Dodgers…
by RoyaleWithCheeze on Aug 12, 2011 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Between Cey and Beltre I bet we’ve done way better than a lot of teams.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Aug 12, 2011 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions
These years
are not when they were drafted, but when they played for the big club?
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
these are the players that played the most games at 3B and the years they played the position.
by RoyaleWithCheeze on Aug 12, 2011 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions
just a technicality
Beltre was a non-drafted free agent.
Yes, it hasn’t been an historical strength and the current state of third basemen doesn’t fill me with hope that we can find a Scott Rolen or even a Placido Polanco. Doesn’t mean you don’t try.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
How many scouts are left over in the dodgers system from, say, 15 years ago?
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Given the average age…all of them?
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Aug 12, 2011 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions
all of our signees must therefore have hot girlfriends
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
Beltre
was an amateur free agent as were others on the list.
by RoyaleWithCheeze on Aug 12, 2011 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions
he didn’t play enough games to qualify.
by RoyaleWithCheeze on Aug 12, 2011 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Another technicality, the first four were signed before there was an amateur draft.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
the Dodgers were the first team to sign and develop those players. I know I said “drafted” but I think you know what I mean.
by RoyaleWithCheeze on Aug 12, 2011 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions
he was the best fantasy QB last year, don’t see why he won’t repeat
by Josie Becker on Aug 12, 2011 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions
I usually like to wait for a QB but he’s too good to pass up.
by silverwidow on Aug 12, 2011 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Never played fantasy football
but I thought the rule was NEVER draft a QB in the first round.
by bhsportsguy on Aug 12, 2011 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions
There are exceptions
With so many teams turned to RB by committee, you have to start looking for true difference makers.
by silverwidow on Aug 12, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
4 years ago
7 runnings backs went before the first QB (manning) in my league, and then that QB taken was worth more by an insane margin than any of the players taken before him. I took Rudi Johnson…worst pick ever, lol.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
depends on the qb
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
If an elite one is sitting late first round
You can go for it.
by Michael White on Aug 12, 2011 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Your future MVP right there
Manning and Brady are only getting older, it’s Rodgers turn to take the torch.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
The Onion wins again
With .163 Average, Adam Dunn No Longer Considered A Baseball Player:
CHICAGO—After his batting average slumped to a historically low .163 this week, White Sox DH Adam Dunn received an official notice from Major League Baseball Thursday informing him that he no longer met the minimum requirements to be labeled an official baseball player. “He’s certainly allowed to continue playing baseball, but he cannot legally refer to himself as a ‘baseball player,’” an MLB spokesperson said in a statement, adding that Dunn would now be called what the league refers to as a ‘baseball participant.’ "We are confident Adam will eventually regain his abilities. For now, however, we think it’s best to disassociate his horrible hitting from the great game of baseball." When asked for comment, Dunn expressed relief and claimed that joining the ranks of players like Mike Cameron and Jorge Posada would at least take some pressure off of him.
Reached for comment, Mickey Mantle said, “.163? I’ve had BACs higher than that.”
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Aug 12, 2011 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
So is Sellers coming up or what?
"We're the best in the west and the west is ours!"
- Good Time Boys
by funkyjam on Aug 12, 2011 1:05 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
we'll probably find out
just before the game
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 12, 2011 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions
The Rockies are saying they’d like to swap Ian Stewart for another player who could use a change of scenery. However, other clubs recognize that Stewart is a non-tender candidate, so his trade value is not high.
James Loney?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 12, 2011 1:11 PM PDT reply actions
Todd Helton
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
he old
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 12, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions
not in coors
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 12, 2011 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions
nah
he’ll just be like CarGo
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 12, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
that true
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 12, 2011 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Mike White or Anyone Who Cares
You mentioned wanting to get into MMA, so I should let you know that the UFC is putting on what looks like their best free card ever on Versus tomorrow.
@andrewngrant
Sorry, should say Sunday.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Aug 12, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions
is that this sunday?
sweet
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 12, 2011 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Yep. Hardy/Lytle, Henderson/Miller and Olivera/Cerrone should all rule. Hell, one of those fights is actually relevant.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Aug 12, 2011 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions
And if you have Showtime, there is a Strikeforce Challengers event tonight.
Though no one cares about Strikeforce.
it will soon be absorbed
just like WEC
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 12, 2011 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Pretty soon.
Especially if Dan Henderson moves over to UFC. Then they’ll have… Ronaldo Souza, Gegard Mousasi and Gilbert Melendez as their only two potential top-tier fighters. Maybe King Mo, but that’s if he ever learns to not just bulk up as big as possible before fights.
I missed Hendo's knockout of Fedor
was told it was epic.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 12, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions
He beat the crap out of our future backup catcher?
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
no no
Fedor, not Fedex
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 12, 2011 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
sweet
i’ll watch it when i get home.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 12, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
They should have ended Strikeforce then and there because nothing will top that.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Aug 12, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I hope they don’t get rid of the Challengers series. Good to see up and coming fighters, but UFC seems to have no interest in having anything but the top-tier fighters, no prospects or anything.
they do the Ultimate fighter
but you have to sell the show on big names, then fill the undercard with up and comers.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 12, 2011 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Ultimate Fighter is alright but they fight so many times in a compressed time I’m not sure if its more about who is the best fighter or who can recover the fastest.
And the undercard is kind of like AAA — a lot of up and comers but also a lot of veterans who aren’t really going anywhere. You aren’t going to see most of the people in the undercards fighting for championships.
Also, Ned says the pitching sucks.
lol
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 12, 2011 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions
They’re airing all the undercard stuff now so it’s a great chance to see up and coming guys for free.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Aug 12, 2011 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Rory McDonald
had a great fight
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 12, 2011 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah that dude is scary. When they do get an actual prospect like McDonald or Olivera they get them on the main card fast.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Aug 12, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I like watching Stefan Struve fight
he’s so freaking tall, so i wonder how much advantage that gives him.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 12, 2011 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Not much judging by his fights.
I think he’s so tall that it puts him at a disadvantage. If he puts any muscle on that frame he’s not gonna be able to make 265.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Aug 12, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Have to give the man credit for surviving that.
Watching Struve crumble is always hilarious so I hope he’s able to stay around for ever. If we lose him and Keith Jardine I don’t know what I’ll do.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Aug 12, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions
MacDonald is pretty good. Just got caught by Condit, and Condit is right on the edge of being a title contender. If he can take out Penn in October, I think he could get the shot against the St. Pierre-Diaz winner.
A week after the MacDonald fight, I saw Condit and his crew at a local bar here in Albuquerque celebrating their victory.
haha
“this will probably go the distance”
.
.
“end”
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
That’s why I started it right there. I don’t think that Henderson expected Fedor to come out and just throw bombs right away. I mean, how many people have been dumb enough to do that against Henderson?
If Henderson doesn’t catch you with that big right hand then he’s just going to take you down. He’s an Olympic caliber wrestler (albeit at Greco-Roman wrestling, a different type than most wrestlers in MMA).
Also, Henderson is my favorite fighter by far.
Fedor is a Sambo world champ though
and has dangerous hands. He probably came out agressive because he’d be on a losing streak.
I like Henderson as well, especially when he KO’d Micheal Bisping
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 12, 2011 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Hendo has delivered way more satisfying moments than any other man.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Aug 12, 2011 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
right
the knockout of Wanderlei Silva was also epic
I was hoping Hendo would be the one to end Anderson Silva’s reign. I don’t hate Anderson, just would like to see someone finally beat him.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 12, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Chael Sonnen would have taken the title of most American fighter if he would have done it but Hendo’s still got that title wrapped up.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Aug 12, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah, Sonnen had it too
just fucked up at the end.
Him and Stann should be a good fight
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 12, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions
haha
he is a polarizing mofo.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 12, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
They’re fighting? Holy shit the America levels are gonna be off the charts.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Aug 12, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
someone needs to come out
to Hulk Hogan’s original music
“I am a real Ameeeeerrricannnnn”
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 12, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Even Sonnen won’t talk shit about Stann.
by fbihop on Aug 12, 2011 2:17 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
which is amazing
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 12, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
The last two guys who Fedor actually KO’d were Andrei Arlovski (he of the glass chin) and Brett Rogers who was about as inexperienced as they come.
Before that, it was years before he knocked anyone out.
Hey he knocked out some tiny professional wrestler.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Aug 12, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
man did Arlovski tank quick
he was one of my favorites.
Also you are wrong, before the Arlovski fight, Fedor knocked out Tim Silvia
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 12, 2011 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions
nevermind, I'm wrong
he submitted Silvia, I just remembered him pummeling him.
apologies fbihop
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 12, 2011 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions
ha
that’s where I found it. I’m pretty sure you’re right
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 12, 2011 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Looking at Eric’s payroll sheet I’m at a loss as to how anyone thought paying Ted Lilly 25 Million in 2012/2013 was a good idea no matter what he did in 2011. Eric’s payroll sheet might be the most depressing read on the internet for Dodger fans.
The Dodgers not only still have the bad contracts of Lilly, Uribe, Guerrier which all increase dramatically in 2012 from 2011, they have $18,500,000 still on the books in 2012 from Manny, Pierre, Furcal, Garland, and of course Andruw Jones. The only thing really holding up the Dodgers is Matt Kemp and Clayton Kershaw and for the life of me I can’t see Matt Kemp signing with this franchise unless things change dramatically in the ownership front before this summer.
I don’t see how Ned is not fired this winter. Hard enough to build a winning roster, twice as hard when you have tied one hand behind your back with bad contracts, and the other hand with possible owner mandate backloaded deals that kill roster flexibility. Based on the 2011 contract levels, I think they could have dealt Lilly, Uribe, and Guerrier, but with the values of the contracts in 2012/2013 taken into account those contracts are going to be immovable.
My biggest problem is that right now I don’t see how Payroll is not going to get slashed dramatically since our man is already bleeding profusely and 2012 ticket revenue is going to snowdive to a level the Dodgers haven’t seen in years. This is all adding up to a perfect storm and Ned is not the guy I want piloting this ship in these treacherous waters.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Aug 12, 2011 1:15 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
Do you think Ned will be fired before or after the World Series? I think Depo got the boot around Halloween.
Ned's going down with the ship
Ned’s going down with the ship
Our best prospects got the flip
Signed Lilly and Jones
A few broke their bones
Pour a glass and take a slow sip.
(I’m no Humma, but felt the need)
by Xeifrank on Aug 12, 2011 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I remember in November i was on vacation in Mexico with no manager and no GM. I was scrambling for internet access the entire trip. it was awful.
I was in Argentina
when my nephew emailed me about the Andruw Jones signing. I should have stayed there and never looked back.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
Ned went all in for 2009 and 2010 with the Manny contract. This year was just refusing to acknowledge it and he just made it worst.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Aug 12, 2011 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ned without money to spend is a sly fox sometimes
if his hands end up tied this winter moneywise he might make some of his best moves yet. Or not, he is a tricky man.
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Wouldn’t it seem to reason that the backloaded deals are the brainchild of Frank McCourt, whose only talent appears to be living now on future debt? I’m no Ned fan, but these deals are at least in part McCourt’s fault.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
I always have wondered how much flexibility ned has
in going beyond 3 years. He says publicly he doesn’t like long deals, but is that his doing or McCourts doing? Maybe both.
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Probably
Interview goes like this.
Frank: How do you feel about long-term deals?
Ned: They are not gritty.
Frank: Can you backload all your signings?
Ned: Can I sign only ex-Giants?
Frank: Welcome aboard!
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
by Nolij on Aug 12, 2011 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Sickening.
"We're the best in the west and the west is ours!"
- Good Time Boys
by funkyjam on Aug 12, 2011 3:06 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Did they lift the waiting period to sign up?
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
You can be patient and still spam.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Aug 12, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions
but its rare
r
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
“He” joined two days ago
KCAL! FTMFW!
by robotmadeofnails on Aug 12, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I've got this real itch to gamble
But I don’t have any money.
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
xeifrank has a contest for that
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Now, I do know people that have cashed out with that site, but it takes some real patience.
I think the most I had my bank up to was $10, but I like to play me some parlays for the odds, and I always lose it
KCAL! FTMFW!
by robotmadeofnails on Aug 12, 2011 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions
ban the witch!
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Patience
I waited three years to reveal I am a bot
KCAL! FTMFW!
by robotmadeofnails on Aug 12, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions
made of nails
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 12, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Interesting article
Joey Votto talking about Superstars and the economics of baseball.
As Votto says, "You’re never going to win if you put too much emphasis on your superstars. It’s such a shared responsibility to win. I won the National League MVP, and in 85 percent of the games I wasn’t changing the game. In the NFL, if I’m the MVP quarterback, I’m changing 12 out of the 16 games, maybe higher. Superstars can be overrated in this game.’’
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 12, 2011 2:33 PM PDT reply actions
Well, he is Canadian
they’re a tad more egalitarian.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
Re: interesting article
in baseball if you add 6 or 7 wins to your team you are a superstar. Not sure what he means by “changing the game”, but 15% of 162 games is around 12 games he was changing. Still likely a superstar level. Wonder what he means by “too much emphasis”. Overpaid or overhyped?
overpaid maybe?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 12, 2011 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions
my guess is the latter
ESPN and other outlets fawn all over the stars and don’t give enough credit to the Ben Zobrists of the world.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
I think you're taking it a little too literally
I don’t think he had WAR in mind.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Right, I know that. But the two should converge. Votto may not know about WAR but he apparently has an opinion as to how many games “he changed”. If he is good at estimations and we can get a handle on his “games changed” metric we can get a good idea as to what he thinks “too much emphasis” is. To me he is trying to be self depricating in a humble sort of way. But as a stat guy, I like to dissect the numbers. :)
I also enjoyed this quote
He took a piece of advice this summer, from Milwaukee’s Prince Fielder.
"I was frustrated I wasn’t hitting homers,’’ Votto recalls. "(Fielder) said, ‘Don’t worry about it. Homers aren’t hit. Homers are thrown to you.’ That changed the way I thought about hitting. It was like a let-go.’’
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 12, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Thats not the kind of thing I would expect to come out of Fielders head
its so… zen
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
it’s a cool thought
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 12, 2011 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions
its more the him charging at the dugout
and trying to start stuff in spring training
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
With all due respect to Votto, is he right?
I suppose it’s how you define “game change.” If you define it as a grand slam home run with two out in the bottom of the ninth when down by three, yeah.
But Votto has incredible value besides that. You want to change the game, put Loney in instead of Votto and see how his team does.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Aug 12, 2011 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions
It's weird
how everything always comes back to Loney.
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
He is like a black hole —
A bat so terrible, nothing can escape
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Aug 12, 2011 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Dodgers and pending Stow family lawsuit
Tidbit from LAist
Also brought up in the Stow suit is the sale of alcohol, and the ensuing cancellation of a half-off beer promo, as well as McCourt’s management of the team, and the problem of gang members attending games. The Dodgers are seeking the removal of those mentions from the lawsuit.
the problem of gang members attending games
What exactly are the Dodgers supposed to do in regards to that? Gang members have the same right as I do to buy a ticket and attend a game.
Maybe the Dodgers should see how the Raiders handle it. ;-)
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I would love to see the screen process. “Excuse me, sir. Are you a part of any criminal gangs?”
KCAL! FTMFW!
by robotmadeofnails on Aug 12, 2011 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Why no, I'm not
and if you ask me again, I’ll cut you
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Have enough people get killed that people take death threats seriously?
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Aug 12, 2011 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions
you know that raider joke is getting old. You would find a game in oakland a very pleasant experience. Aside from the shitty stadium
Tell that to plaschke
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
becuase no one shows up anymore?
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Not if you're wearing an opposing team's colors. Been twice. Never said a word. Was almost attacked twice.
A lot of great fans, too, would never besmirch the whole fan base because of that, but enough scary guys there that I will never go. I literally needed police to walk us to our car the last time.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
No, they shouldn't see how the Raiders handle that. :-/
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Yep, it's official. And MSTI Mike mentioned that some other SSs were promoted beneath him
as a ripple effect. Anyone know who those are?
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Haven’t seen but Late Night was on the temporary inactive list yesterday so he might be with Chattanooga.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 12, 2011 3:19 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Ochoa to Albuquerque, Lemmerman to Chattanooga per the minor league transactions pages.
by Lincoln Kupchak on Aug 12, 2011 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Tigers reliever Al Albuquerque got hit in the head by a line drive in batting practice today.
@jeffzrebiecsun
Scary moment here at Camden as a Robert Andino liner just struck a Detroit Tiger in batting practivce. Medical personel rushing out there. The player who was hit by the liner was Det. reliever Al Alburquerque. Really scary scene. Went down head-first and feet were flailing.
I always wondered how this didn’t happen more often during BP, with all the pitchers and players running windsprints in the outfield and fielders taking groundballs from one of the coaches.
The Baseball Gods saw that his name is Alburquerque and clearly thought he was associated with the Dodgers. Since he’s having a good season they decided to injure him.
by fbihop on Aug 12, 2011 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Man, this poor guy seems overly excited about Sellers and Jamie Hoffmann
http://www.throughthefencebaseball.com/some-hope-for-the-otherwise-hopeless-dodger-fans/9774/
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
People get overly attached to marginal big leaguers all the time. It’s the baseball equivalent of showing up mainly for the opening band.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Aug 12, 2011 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Well I can see rooting for these guys, getting attached to them as underdogs and/or guys you saw play in person
but yeah, getting attached to them unrealistically, thinking they’ll be impact players, rather than just hoping… bound for disappointment.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Good, because I read it backwards. It’s 11.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Aug 12, 2011 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
and here I was hoping he was Miguel Tejada incarnated.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
oops
*reincarnated…and I guess Rich Aurilia would have been more realistic.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
reg finds them at minorleaguecentral.com – if the stats database has been updated.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
its kinda broken atm
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
My local copy is great.
Except for home and road being switched.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Aug 12, 2011 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions
the answer is always user error
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Ned is an asshole for not calling up Corey Smith!
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
He doesn't have the shortstop's body type.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Dodgers Lineup
Miles 2B
Blake 3B
Ethier RF
Kemp CF
Rivera LF
Loney 1B
Navarro C
Sellers SS
Eovaldi P
by Alex41592 on Aug 12, 2011 3:17 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Captain Nitro
reporting for duty
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
I'm gonna go to this game
Even if it’s Astros.
"We're the best in the west and the west is ours!"
- Good Time Boys
by funkyjam on Aug 12, 2011 3:22 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
<< that nestea girl is hottt
any day is a good day to be a Dodgers, Eagles, Penguins, Clippers, Texas A&M fan! except when they lose
I was born the year Brett Favre started playing.... amazing
If your a troll, bandwagoner, or NNAMDI iZ SO GREATZ-er fuck off or i will go apeshit on you
by henry-dekoeyer-eagle-fan on Aug 12, 2011 3:24 PM PDT reply actions
This is a trip
I wonder how many times he knocked himself in the head learning his tricks:
http://boingboing.net/2011/08/12/shinji-saito-world-yoyo-champion.html
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Hm, Sellers is from Bellflower?
Didn’t realize he was a local guy.
I wonder if he rode around in souped up post apocalyptic cars, or wait… that’s just that movie.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
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