Dodgers In Milwaukee: Shawn Green & The Greatest Offensive Game In MLB History
by Eric Stephen on Aug 15, 2011 11:30 AM PDT
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Nine years ago, the Dodgers faced off with the Brewers for a three-game series beginning on May 21. Right fielder Shawn Green was struggling in the early going in 2002, hitting just .231/.339/.346 through 42 games. Green had not hit a home run in a month, a span of 24 games and 110 plate appearances. He had just three home runs on the season.
The Dodgers lost the opener in Milwaukee 8-6, but Green broke out of his slump with a pair of solo home runs. The next day Green hit a triple in the Dodgers' 1-0 win, but the best was yet to come.
In the series finale, Green had arguably the greatest offensive game in the history of baseball. Nate Colbert and Stan Musial, who hit five home runs in a doubleheader (1954 for Musial, 1972 for Colbert), might have an argument for the best offensive day in history, and I'm partial to Rick Wise hitting two home runs while no-hitting the Reds in 1971 as the greatest overall game in baseball history. But for a single game, nobody did better than Green against the Brewers on May 23, 2002.
Glendon Rusch started for the Brewers, but the Dodgers got him out of the game in a hurry. Green doubled in the first inning to drive home Cesar Izturis, part of a three-run opening frame for the Dodgers. In the second inning, Green hit a three-run home run to give the Dodgers a 6-1 lead, and Rusch was pulled four batters later after allowing eight runs while collecting five outs.
Brian Mallette was the second Brewers relief pitcher of the day, and his first batter was Green, who hit a home run to right center field to open the top of the fourth inning. One inning later, Green whacked Mallette again with a solo shot, giving the Dodgers a 10-1 lead. The three consecutive home runs for Green tied a Dodgers franchise record, co-held by six players, most recently Hee Seop Choi against Minnesota on June 12, 2005.
Green did not bat again until the eighth inning, and when he singled off Jose Cabrera it looked like the chance for a record four home runs was out of reach. Green needed at least three Dodgers to reach base to get one more plate appearance, and luckily Cabrera obliged. Hiram Bocachica homered off Cabrera in the eighth to score Green, then Chad Kreuter doubled to open the top of the ninth inning. Cabrera retired the next two batters, which brought Adrian Beltre to the plate with two outs and Shawn Green on deck in a 12-2 game.
Beltre homered, giving Green the chance he needed.
Green blasted a 1-1 pitch over the wall in right center field four his fourth home run of the game and a place in the record books. But the Dodgers weren't done, as Dave Hansen followed Green with another home run, the third straight for the Dodgers and fourth long ball in the last nine batters faced by Cabrera. The 30-year old Cabrera pitched in 27 more games that season, including nine starts, and allowed 63 runs (including 15 home runs) in 69 innings. He never pitched in the majors again.
As for Green, his portion of the box score looked quite unique:
Green RF 6 6 6 7
Green's four home runs tied the major league record, co-held by former Dodger great Gil Hodges, who went deep four times on August 31, 1950 against Warren Spahn and three Boston Braves relief pitchers at Ebbets Field. Green set the major league record with 19 total bases, tied major league records with six runs scored and five extra-base hits (Steve Garvey is the only other Dodger to have five extra-base hits in a game, doing so on August 28, 1977 against St. Louis), and he is the last of eight Dodgers to collect a franchise-record six hits in a game.
There have been 15 different players in baseball history to hit four home runs in a game:
| Four Home Runs In A Game, MLB History | ||||||||
| Player | Date | Team | Opp | AB | R | H | RBI | Comment |
| Bobby Lowe | 5/30/1894 | Bos | Cin | 6 | 4 | 5 | 6 | other hit was a single |
| Ed Delahanty | 7/13/1896 | Phi | Chi | 5 | 4 | 5 | 7 | other hit was a single |
| Lou Gehrig | 6/3/1932 | NYY | Pha | 6 | 4 | 4 | 6 | first 4-HR game in AL history |
| Chuck Klein | 7/10/1936 | Phi | Pit | 5 | 4 | 4 | 6 | 4th home run in 10th inning |
| Pat Seery | 7/18/1948 | ChW | Pha | 6 | 4 | 4 | 7 | 4th home run in 11th inning |
| GIl Hodges | 8/31/1950 | Bkn | Bsn | 6 | 5 | 5 | 9 | other hit was a single |
| Joe Adcock | 7/31/1954 | Mil | Bkn | 5 | 5 | 5 | 7 | other hit was a double |
| Rocky Colavito | 6/10/1959 | Cle | Bal | 4 | 5 | 4 | 6 | |
| Willie Mays | 4/30/1961 | SF | Mil | 5 | 4 | 4 | 8 | |
| Mike Schmidt | 4/17/1976 | Phi | ChC | 6 | 4 | 5 | 8 | 4th home run in 10th inning |
| Bob Horner | 7/6/1986 | Atl | Mon | 5 | 4 | 4 | 6 | |
| Mark Whiten | 9/7/1993 | StL | Cin | 5 | 4 | 4 | 12 | 13 RBI in doubleheader |
| Mike Cameron | 5/2/2002 | Sea | ChW | 5 | 4 | 4 | 4 | HBP and lineout in final two PA |
| Shawn Green | 5/23/2002 | LA | Mil | 6 | 6 | 6 | 7 | 19 total bases |
| Carlos Delgado | 9/25/2003 | Tor | TB | 4 | 4 | 4 | 6 | |
| Source: Baseball-Reference.com and Baseball Almanac | ||||||||
The trip to Milwaukee was a springboard for Green. The Dodgers moved on to Arizona, and Green homered once in the opening game of the series on May 24, and added two more the next day. Green set a major league record with seven home runs in a three-game span, and hit 10 home runs in a seven-game stretch and 22 homers over 34 games beginning with that first game in Milwaukee. Despite his slow start, Green finished the season with 42 home runs, and hit .285/.385/.558.
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The greatest move of Bill Smith’s tenure.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Aug 15, 2011 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions
does not bode well
for Magglio
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 15, 2011 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions
I remember having a baseball card highlighting Mark Whiten’s 4 HR game when I was a kid
"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"
z
That was his nickname? That’s bad ass!
"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"
Funny, I could never figure out how to pronounce his name. The way it’s spelled, it should be a long ‘i.’
by TopDeckTrueBlue on Aug 15, 2011 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions
thats pretty cool
shawn green was one of my favorite dodgers growing up
any day is a good day to be a Dodgers, Eagles, Penguins, Clippers, Texas A&M fan! except when they lose
I was born the year Brett Favre started playing.... amazing
If you're a troll, bandwagoner, or NNAMDI iZ SO GREATZ-er fuck off or i will go apeshit on you
by henry-dekoeyer-eagle-fan on Aug 15, 2011 11:46 AM PDT reply actions
If our infield hits four home runs the rest of the month I'll be surprised
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
I was working at Dick Sporting Goods the day Green hit the 4 jacks (6-6 day). They had ESPN on twenty different TV’s in that store and it was so cool listening to all the love he was getting. The two games I remembered the most while working there was Green’s day and the day Rick Ankiel became Rick “wild thing” Ankiel.
"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"
I still remember Rick Monday and Charlie Steiners call. Steiner thought Green’s single was going to be a HR, or atleast that’s the way it sounded. it’s all a blur.
Charley Steiner
was working for the Yankees that year, the other broadcaster was Ross Porter (I am assuming this but I think it is a pretty safe guess)
by bhsportsguy on Aug 15, 2011 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions
In Steiner's defense....
….he thinks everything is a homerun. Until it drops in front of the pitcher.
All four of Mike Cameron's HRs were solo shots?
That kind of sucks when you hit four HRs and don’t get to pad your all important RBI total very much.
i bet there where runners on in his other at bat where he didn't hit a dinger
what an unclutch player.
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Bret Boone batted in front of Cameron, and hit two home runs himself. Both in the first inning. I believe Boone and Cameron are the only teammates to hit back-to-back home runs twice in one inning.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 15, 2011 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions
He hit those by the 5th inning I think
If anyone had a shot at 5 HR in a game it was him that day.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
In his fifth at bat he had a 3-0 count and took a strike down the pipe. I believe the then hit the next pitch to the wall. Not sure on that latter but I’m positive about the former because the announcers went on and on how that was a great baseball move by taking the 3 – 0 count instead of trying to become the first player in history to hit five home runs. For me Cameron was an idiot for not taking the biggest swing of his life on that 3 – 0 count.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Aug 15, 2011 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Fuck – what Eric said below.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Aug 15, 2011 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Ted Lilly says, “Don’t be silly — I won’t allow more than three home runs to Braun.”
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Aug 15, 2011 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I remember Cameron getting a huge amount of props from old school baseball types because, in his 6th and final PA already sitting on four home runs, he took a called strike on a 3-0 pitch rather than swing for the fences trying to show the pitcher up (Mariners were up 14-4).
by Eric Stephen on Aug 15, 2011 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
That is pretty classy
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
I do, too, but I also think the pitcher has a small thing to do: if/when Cameron connects for the fifth home run, and the press asks the pitcher a leading/baiting question like “Was Cameron showing you up there?,” the pitcher has to respond by being classy, noting the historic opportunity, saying that he’d do the same thing in that situation, and, finally, noting that if he didn’t want Cameron to hit the fifth HR, then he shouldn’t have put himself in a situation where he had to throw Cameron a meatball.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Aug 15, 2011 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions
UCLA's baseball coach John Savage can't wait until 9:01 p.m.
tonight to find out if his two high round pick recruits will show up in Westwood this fall or be in the Padre’s organization. Joe Ross and Austin Hedges are both still unsigned, both will require above-slot money (Hedges from all accounts I have seen is not turning pro). Also Tampa supplemental round pick and UCLA recruit Tyler Goeddel remains unsigned, Tyler is the brother of Erik who was a relief pitcher for UCLA and was drafted by the Mets last year.
It sounded like he could easily become a 1st-2nd round talent.
From reports I saw.
That somewhat salvages this draft.
by Taylor Maricle on Aug 15, 2011 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Time will tell but this is a weak class. Lucky if we get some trade bait like 2007 (Lambo).
by silverwidow on Aug 15, 2011 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
He was used for Dotel
Not exactly a draft-salvaging piece of trade bait.
by Taylor Maricle on Aug 15, 2011 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
It's looking like a weak draft overall, you're right
But that doesn’t mean there aren’t some promising looking guys in it, at least imho. OKoyea’s already looking like a nice find, and there are a few others who seem to have promise. At least they signed a good number of players, which I wasn’t even sure they’d be able to do. Compared to their better draft classes this is not gonna be a memorable one overall but I am liking some of the players already…
Of course my excitement about Wingo should probably not count. He’ll probably end up no better than Justin Sellers, heh.
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If Wingo has a major league career that is a win.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Aug 15, 2011 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm banking* on it!
(*Using Bank of Monopoly Money)
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Which is worth more than Canadian money.
by Taylor Maricle on Aug 15, 2011 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Those are better than money sir….those are IOU’s
"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"
Canadians smile graciously, then pin maple leaf flags to their backpacks.
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Aug 15, 2011 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions
How many of them hit for as high of an average as Kemp is when they did it?
I know Soriano hit like .280 that year or so.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Barry Bonds
probably should have won in 1996 (the most WAR in his pre-alleged ped part of his career) instead he finished 5th in 1996) A-Rod did it as a 22 year old SS for a not so hot Mariner team in 1998 and Soriano did it for a bad Nationals team in 2006.
Bonds and probably A-Rod had and will have better years than what Kemp will do this year. If Kemp did go 40/40, he would be close to Canseco though he won’t score or probably drive in as many runs as he did.
by bhsportsguy on Aug 15, 2011 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I think the fact that Kemp is doing all of this in this tough of a hitting environment (Dodger Stadium plus Year of The Pitcher Part ii)
Will weigh in more with the voters.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
The people that vote on this stuff do not understand park factors.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Aug 15, 2011 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I didn't necessarily mean park factors
I would quote Jon but I closed the window, something about Kemp putting up MVP numbers in the same park people are holding against Clayton Kershaw. It’s well known Dodger Stadium is a bat killing park, and I’m hoping if that sticks then the idea of that will benefit Kemp.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
The fact that Kemp
is playing for a bad club in a division that no one will be watching in September will hurt him when it comes to MVP voting.
by bhsportsguy on Aug 15, 2011 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Didn't you hear?
The Dodgers are on a 3 game winning streak and are creeping back into the race on the shoulders of Matt Kemp and former all-star catcher Dioner Navarro!
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
You don’t need to do any adjustments for park factors to vote for Roy Halladay over Clayton Kershaw.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 15, 2011 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
We are at the point where the worst thing you can say about Clayton Kershaw is that he is almost, but not quite, as good as Roy Halladay.
There should be an award for that.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Aug 15, 2011 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
The Nathan Eovaldi Award, one which Cy Young himself has never won.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 15, 2011 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I just looked at the numbers and realized Ryan Howard is probably gonna be the MVP. Damn you baseball.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Aug 15, 2011 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't remember Rodriguez doing it
when was this?
Nothing is ever easy.
by drulenarendes on Aug 15, 2011 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions
1998, the last time I won a fantasy baseball league.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 15, 2011 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Shawn Green!!
loved that guy!
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 15, 2011 12:07 PM PDT reply actions
He was my favorite Dodger for a long, long time until Kemp and then Kershaw came along
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Thanks for the trip down memory lane Eric
I have fond memories of this game. I was upset with how Green’s year had been going up till that point, after he launched 49 bombs the year before. It was a lot of fun to see him destroy Miller Park that day and go on that power binge.
Green was my favorite Dodger in the early 2000’s. It’s just too bad his final two years were lackluster.
Nothing is ever easy.
Don't forget - Live Loon Chat with Hugh tonight
Phil,
We’re all set for 7 p.m. Monday. Sexton is pitching, so no great shakes there. Was kind of hoping Lee, Gould or Sanchez would pitch, but it’s not their turn.
.
Send me questions and I’ll do my best to answer them. If I don’t know the answer, I’ll throw the question out to the other people in the press box to get their opinions.
.
The press box people were putting together their own unofficial Great Lakes all-star team … since this is the fifth year of the franchise. Some interesting names and omissions. for instance, can you put Carlos Santana on the team? I know he’s a great prospect and he’s in the Majors, but when he was with the Loons, he was awful … still learning to catch. Same with Trayvon Robinson … major leaguer but blossomed after leaving Great Lakes.
.
By the way, I don’t have a problem with the trade of Trayvon Robinson. I think he was a good prospect and maybe the most Major League ready outfielder in the system, but I also believe the Dodgers have a lot of outfield prospects who all kind of rate the same level … Sands (who I believe will end up at first base), Silverio, Russell, Smith and even some guys at Ogden I know they’re high on.
.
Catchers are much harder to find that outfielders, which is why I never did like the Santana trade. Plus, the throw-in for the Dodgers was the reliever that’s at the Loons who throws 100. Great arm, but control is iffy. Still, best fastball here since de la rosa.
.
Talk to you tonight,
.
Hugh
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
So if you have any questions put them here and I’ll forward them to Hugh. Ask about any current or past Great Lake Loon, or players in the MidWestLeague. Don’t ask about any Ogden players because they have yet to become Loons. Okay Keith:)
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Aug 15, 2011 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Or players like LateNight who skipped the MWL
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Aug 15, 2011 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Ask him about Songco playing 1B, like how his D looks over there.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 15, 2011 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions
He did not play 1B for the Loons so I’m guessing Hugh knows as much about his 1st base defense as you do.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Aug 15, 2011 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions
But maybe someone in the press box is a scout and may have seen him this year.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Aug 15, 2011 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions
right sorry
i always get the two class A teams confused.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 15, 2011 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Zach Lee
Please ask about his average velocity, his peak velocity, how long he can hold it for, what’s his best secondary pitch, etc. Ask about his ceiling, if he’s a legit top of the rotation guy or more of a control specialist.
by silverwidow on Aug 15, 2011 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Feel free to join the chat, it is open to all of us.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Aug 15, 2011 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions
The average velocity of an unladen loon?
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
by underdog on Aug 15, 2011 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Is it 7pm pacific time?
"Fast just got Faster"
Has to be 04:00 PM PCT
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Aug 15, 2011 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Shawn Green, classiest Dodger to ever wear Dodger Blue in the 21st century. Why do I feel Delias disliked him?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
i will give some reasons
he was driving down the wrong way on a one way street in his lexus suv and almost went head on with me once.
he didnt dive to save odalis’ no hitter
boring
lefty
gunned down 2 dodgers at the plate in NLDS on one play
traded for my guy
Is that first one true? If so kinda weird
Whats wrong with a lefty who hits 40 home runs? :)
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
I was the biggest Shawn Green fan you’ll ever meet, and I also blamed him for not diving for that ball.
by Michael White on Aug 15, 2011 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I was sitting in right field, probably loge that game
And when he didn’t get that I was so mad.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
From my view I thought there was no way he shouldn't have had that one.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Rocky Colavito
one of the greatest baseball names
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Aw man, this is mean...(but I still chuckled)
@keithlaw
Just heard that Rich Harden fell off the waiver wire and hurt his arm in the process
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Someone who doesn’t like snark written about them sure seems ready to dish it out toward others.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 15, 2011 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions
He is among the snarkiest, especially in his impatient retorts to tweeters.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
And that he thinks the entire world needs to see his sick burns to people.
Stopped following him a while ago and I’m happier for it.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Aug 15, 2011 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions
My favorite stat
You don’t usually think of pitching with the Rangers but each one of their starters is averaging over 6 IP per start and only 6 pitchers have started for them (one for 3 games), they will more than likely have 5 pitchers with 25 starts and maybe 4 with more than 30.
It's the Nolan Ryan effect
when he became Rangers president, he wanted his starters to be able to pitch deeper into games. He’s done a hell of a job.
Nothing is ever easy.
by drulenarendes on Aug 15, 2011 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Well it is not
like the 3 Philly pitchers averaging close to 7 innings per start. It is mostly being fortunate re injuries because only one or two teams do this every year and it rarely repeats itself.
by bhsportsguy on Aug 15, 2011 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Kershaw is tied for the NL lead in innings with Halladay
at 175.2 IP
Granted, Kershaw has started one more game, but it’s still impressive.
Nothing is ever easy.
I miss Manny
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 15, 2011 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Just because Manny took those female fertitility drugs is no reason to call him “miss.” He’s still a dude.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Aug 15, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
lol
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 15, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions
What was the overall consensus at the time of the Green / Mondesi trade? I felt we were on the winning end even at the time of the trade because of Green’s youth. I was needing someone to believe in at the time since I was still mourning the loss of Piazza.
"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"
It sucked because it was another one of my favorite players gone but it trained me to expect the Dodgers to disappoint me again and again.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Aug 15, 2011 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
I never liked Mondesi
thought he was a huge jerk and never lived up to his immense potential. He had some decent years with the Dodgers, but none as good as they should have been.
Green was coming off a 42 homer season with the Jays, so I was ecstatic when I learned of the trade.
Nothing is ever easy.
by drulenarendes on Aug 15, 2011 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions
When you are the only
30/30 player (twice), Gold Glove and All-Star (plus ROY), I find it hard to think he should have been better. I was probably not too upset about the trade but I don’t think it was a slam dunk plus the extension to Green made it worst as time went on.
by bhsportsguy on Aug 15, 2011 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Arguments made against Mondesi in 1999: He never drove in 100 runs in a season.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 15, 2011 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions
all abouts
teh ribbies
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 15, 2011 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
That fact use to bother me….it made it to where he could never hit 3 or 4 for us, yet his potential said he could.
"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"
Karros was stuck in the four for some reason and Piazza or Sheffield were in the three.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Aug 15, 2011 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions
But Karros
drove in 100, so he is good right.
by bhsportsguy on Aug 15, 2011 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Even my dad wasn't fooled
He said it always seemed like Karros would hit a hr when the team was up or down big, never when it really seemed to matter.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Best Karros moment.
At a game, Jumbotron shows a video of EK teaching the crowd how to grip a bat. Someone yells out “WHY DON’T YOU DO THAT WITH THE BASES LOADED?”
He signed a 6-year, $60 million deal prior to 1998 (it was really 4/$36, with two options that pushed it to 6/$60m)
by Eric Stephen on Aug 15, 2011 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Fred Claire wanted the payroll to be around 45 million in 1998 according to that article. My god.
Nothing is ever easy.
by drulenarendes on Aug 15, 2011 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Baseball salary inflation is much higher than
most other types of inflation we are use to. For example an 8% inflation would put this at around $120M. This seems more reasonable.
That's still absurdly low for a team like the Dodgers
Nothing is ever easy.
by drulenarendes on Aug 15, 2011 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions
He struck out too much
and hit for a low average his last couple years with LA. I just always felt he could have been so much more than he was. He wasn’t a bad player, but he wasn’t a great one either.
Nothing is ever easy.
by drulenarendes on Aug 15, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions
At the time it may have looked better for the Jays
But overall the Dodgers won pretty easily.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Damn
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=1314&position=OF
6 win season for Mondesi one year.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
really liked it at the time
we got the best of both players, so big win in my book
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
I say this mockingly but if Ian Kennedy finishes at something like
20-5 with a sub 3.2 ERA on a division winning D-Back team, he could get more votes than Kershaw.
I'm sure Harold Reynolds
will be slamming his head on his desk trying to drum up support.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 15, 2011 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Not sure how being on a winning team helps his cause. This is not the MVP vote.
by silverwidow on Aug 15, 2011 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions
“doing it in the pressure of a pennant race blah blah blah”
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 15, 2011 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Winning teams always help
no matter what the category.
by bhsportsguy on Aug 15, 2011 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions
so if you're not on a winning team
you had better be HANDS DOWN the best pitcher
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 15, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Eh, wouldn’t be the worst since that probably park adjusts to the same as Kershaw.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Aug 15, 2011 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Thought
about that.
Heck, unless the Philly guys cancel each other out or get shut down in mid-September, one of them will win it.
by bhsportsguy on Aug 15, 2011 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Hell at this point I’d probably have those guys at 1-2-3 right now. Really similar numbers to Kershaw in a much tougher park.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Aug 15, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions
When I looked it up to write the game preview before Saturday’s start, Kershaw was 4th in the NL in Pitcher WAR behind Halladay, Lee and Hamels.
by Michael White on Aug 15, 2011 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Kershaw will get points for leading the league in strikeouts if he can stay on top there. I think it will be enough for 2nd or 3rd.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
How does the ballot work? How many names do the writers put down?
If it’s only three names per ballot, I bet there are going to be a lot of writers who just put down the Philadelphia Three. I think they think it’s close enough for comfort and would be too cool if those three guys were the only ones to get votes.
If there are only three names on the ballot, it might come to pass that Kershaw gets zero votes.
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Aug 15, 2011 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I think it's 5 to be honest
But I’m not 100 percent. Mark my words, Kershaw will get a lot of 2nd and 3rd place votes regardless of how Lee and Hamels do the rest of the season.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Used to be 3
Now it is 5 players per ballot.
Weight is 7-4-3-2-1
by Eric Stephen on Aug 15, 2011 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Used to be weighted 5-3-1 (through 2009)
by Eric Stephen on Aug 15, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Outy Five!!! Catch you later Familia
"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"
later Joe
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 15, 2011 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Was in college
Semesters ended the beginning of May. Was back in California for the summer.
by Michael White on Aug 15, 2011 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I started to have my doubts when delias man asked if I was in school. I thought it was a Sunday.
Oh well, it was 11 years ago. I guess my memory isn’t as good as I thought. I must have been sitting in that chair talking about the game.
by Michael White on Aug 15, 2011 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Wasn't it also 9 years ago? lol
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
you caught me with that mistake too once
I think I just saw the replays so many times I assumed I watched the game live. The numbers grow as time passes.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
Who's left-handed in this group?
I am, and got to wondering who else may be and if its a larger proportion than the general populace.
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
I'm righty
According to iii he wouldn’t let me do things lefty as a kid so I wouldn’t become one, you know, a freak? lol, jk
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
What was his IPA
for after the game?
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
3rd straight game with a home run for Kemp
He should have his 30/30 by 3 games from now :)
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
He’s going to be psyched after reading this post and say, “I can do better than Green in this park!” and hit 5 tonight.
Nothing is ever easy.
by drulenarendes on Aug 15, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I went to search for Jake Lemmerman on fangraphs
and I started to type out “Late Night Lemmerman”
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Brewers lineup
Hart RF
Hairston CF
Braun LF
Fielder 1B
McGehee 3B
Betancourt SS
Wilson 2B
Kottaras C
Wolf P
Wolf? Awesome!
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Xeifrank is the man to ask about the over/under on that one
My guess is 4.5 at the least
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
BCG
Do we still consider BCG a prospect? I’m not sure but he might have the worst plate discipline in the entire system. He’s got 38 XBH in the Southern League is okay, I guess, yet only eight walks. EIGHT. This is over 355 ABs and 99 games.
My Shawn Green story...
A few weeks ago my son’s PONY-13 All Star team played in the West Zone championships in Fullerton versus Orange. Sitting a section over was none other than Shawn Green. He still looked young enough to play and was gracious and cordial to everyone who approached him. After the game, my son’s team, upon hearing word that Shawn Green was in the stands, ran up to his seat where he signed baseballs and took pictures with the boys.
The adults who approached him echoed the same sentiment: “Thank you for representing the Dodgers with such class.” He was such a classy man. I’ll always remember the huge weekend in Milwaukee, but the incident that I always think of when I think Shawn Green was his move to 1B to make room for newly acquired Juan Encarnacion. Here was an All-Star right-fielder, possibly the best Dodger outfielder in a generation, and he was willing to switch positions to help the team. He played a slick first base, too!
That's a great story
If there is any Dodger I’d love to meet in the last 20 years it would be Shawn Green.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
I’d like to meet Rich Donnelly, so I can ask him what the hell he was thinking.
(Not really. I’m such a pussy, if I ever met Rich Donnelly, I’d be completely respectful. But, inside, I’d be burning up.)
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Aug 15, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
One day Rich Donnelly will be on Twitter and you can get him to block you.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Aug 15, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Is there some kind of incident i'm not remembering?
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
2006 NLDS
Donnelly was the 3rd base coach that sent both Kent and Drew home to be thrown out
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 15, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ve always blamed Jeff Kent. I watched baseball a long time and I can count on my fingers how many times I’ve seen a guy starting at 2nd get thrown out at home on a ball off the wall in the right field corner.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Kent coulda/shoulda been safe, no doubt. But I would have forgotten that play a long time ago if it had just been Kent making the out.
The thing is that Drew should also have been safe, because he should have been standing on third base.
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Aug 15, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes. It is an incident that has already been mentioned once today. See if you can guess!
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Aug 15, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
too late
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 15, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Story of my life
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by Humma Kavula on Aug 15, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
I thought that was too early
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Well, yeah, that too. Pretty much I always mistime shit, in whichever way it’s worse to mistime it.
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Aug 15, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions
The game is here. I think you need an MLB.com log in. It’s an old link. Bob Uecker on the call for most the game.
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/baseballs_best/mlb_bb_gamepage.jsp?story_page=bb_02reg_052302_ladmil
FYI - Remember how shocking it was that Bonofacio
was good enough to win the July POTM.
I would freak out of Yuniesky Betancourt does it for August, but the SS has an OPS of .956 in August and .964 over the last 28 days.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
In the NBJHA, in the Zoilo Versalles comment, James discusses a question: Who was the worst player ever to win an MVP award? Not “worst choice” — the player in question could deserve the award — but that among MVP winners, somebody has to have the worst career stats. (I think the answer was, in fact, Versalles, but don’t remember.)
Betancourt winning POTM reminds me of that…. The idea that Betancourt could string together a month like that… it’s defying Humma’s Law.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Aug 15, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Our best chance for any lead in this series will be the first inning tonight with Wolf on the mound.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
No faith in Kershaw v. Estrada on Thursday? Or did you mean series lead like a playoff series?
by Eric Stephen on Aug 15, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Nope, even Estrada will befuddle this offense and Clayton is due for a stumble. I’ve never felt more confident in a Dodger debacle in a four game series then I do right now. Hopefully by Thursday Night I’ll have proven to be ill fitted for prognostications.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I’d think any Dodger fan who wants to continue to fantasize that Matt Kemp is going to sign an extension with this team would not want him to add a MVP trophy to his mantle.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
At this point i'm not sure if it matters anymore
A top 3 finish still gets him a lot of notoriety, just look at Carlos Gonzalez last year.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
That may be true
but with the disaster this season has been, an MVP (and perhaps a Cy Young for Kershaw) would make it easier to swallow.
Nothing is ever easy.
by drulenarendes on Aug 15, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
If you act dickish about it
You might be right. Better continue on your path.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
I didn't realize that Braun was out-hitting Fielder
wOBA
Fielder: .414
Braun: .424
Matt Kemp is at .421
thats nice
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
now if they could just put him somewhere in the field
where he won’t embarrass himself…
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
he isn't THAT bad
but he isn’t good either.
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
maybe they'll try him at first
after Fielder leaves
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 15, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions
you can't move superstars!
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Is he really any worse than Andre in RF?
by Michael White on Aug 15, 2011 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm all for moving kemp to RF and Ethier to LF
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
honestly though he isn't as bad as I thought according to the numbers
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Who plays CF then?
Nothing is ever easy.
by drulenarendes on Aug 15, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Right now?
Gwynn. Rivera at first.
That is a better baseball team.
by Michael White on Aug 15, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
That is a flat out good OF
even if ethier has lost some of his luster
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Will Matt Kemp win the Gold Glove this year?
Note: I am not asking if he deserves the Gold Glove.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Aug 15, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions
He shouldn't
but I wouldn’t be surprised if he did. No one ever votes on GG’s strictly for defense.
Nothing is ever easy.
by drulenarendes on Aug 15, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
What about going forward though?
I don’t see Gwynn as a long term option. I love his defense, but he’ll never be half of what his dad was at the plate.
Nothing is ever easy.
by drulenarendes on Aug 15, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Same guy I wanted this year. Nyjer Morgan.
by Michael White on Aug 15, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions
He’s a Brewer for life now. What a great trade.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
You’re probably right that he’s around for a while, but man his defense can be bad especially going back on balls, his arm is weak, and his hitting benefits greatly from being platooned.
Fangraphs has him positive defensively. Not as crazy good as they rated him back in 09, but still MUCH better than Matt Kemp.
by Michael White on Aug 15, 2011 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I love that for his first two seasons he was at -50.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Aug 15, 2011 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I dunno. Maybe the contrast with Carlos Gomez is too stark. He plays shallow and he just doesn’t seem that good at catching balls over his head. I guess that’s his big flaw though. That and his noodle arm. I hope whoever is 3rd base coach is loose when runners are on base.
Ugh
I’d rather take my chances with Kemp’s D in CF
Nothing is ever easy.
by drulenarendes on Aug 15, 2011 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Those two seem destined for the top two (or three), though Elsbury has been getting a lot of love of late.
Meanwhile, Joey Bats weeps.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 15, 2011 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Ryan Howard leading the NL in RBI and could easily end up leading in home runs by years end. He gonna win.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Aug 15, 2011 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Victirino will save us from this fate
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Howard will finish higher than Victorino in the MVP voting.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 15, 2011 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I wonder if a late surge by the Cards with some highlight dingers by Albert might put him in the running. I suppose if they don’t make the playoffs, the answer is probably no.
I’d think Holliday has a great case, as does Berkman
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Too many clownish defensive lowlights I suspect. Offense though, what an amazing threesome to run out. Seems one is always dinged at any one time though (thank goodness – Brewer fan view).
MVP voters don’t care about defense.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Aug 15, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Can you not say things that infuriate and make me nauseous at the same time?
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
The Howard winning the MVP comment was bad enough
Now I need to sit down, lol
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
So the Twins are playing the Tigers today. Delmon Young grabbed his stuff, walked down the hall to greet his new teammates, and pissed everyone off because no one actually told the Tigers that Delmon Young was now their teammate.
@andrewngrant
Hilarious
I saw a tweet earlier that Young found out on the (Twins) team bus that he was traded, as they were on their way to the stadium.
Didn’t know about the Tigers players not knowing. Awesome.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 15, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions
The Young trade reminds me of when the Dodgers traded for Garland in 2009, while they were playing Arizona. Must have been strange for Garland to walk into the Dbacks’ clubhouse before the game, and the Dodgers’ clubhouse after the game. Plus having to pitch against his old team two days later.
Nothing is ever easy.
by drulenarendes on Aug 15, 2011 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Shane Victirino could win the MVP this year
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
If this happens, I will do something irrational
KCAL! FTMFW!
by robotmadeofnails on Aug 15, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I would think it is more likely
a Philly pitcher will get more MVP votes than a regular Philly player this season.
FA Catchers per Cots
Rod Barajas LAD
Henry Blanco ARI
Ramon Castro CWS
Ryan Doumit PIT
Ramon Hernandez CIN
Jason Kendall KC
Gerald Laird STL
Jose Molina TOR
Dioner Navarro LAD
Jorge Posada NYY
Ivan Rodriguez WAS
Brian Schneider PHI
Matt Treanor KC
Jason Varitek BOS
That list seems the same year after year
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I would say the odds heavily favor
Navarro being the opening day starter next season.
by Michael White on Aug 15, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions
As long as he doesn't get a big raise
I might not even be angry about it.
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
I’m thinking VERY similar contract. $1MM or so on a one year deal, take it or leave it. He didn’t exactly put up numbers this year where he can command more on the market.
by Michael White on Aug 15, 2011 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions
he put up better then the last 2 years though
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Yeah, I just think the guy could find himself as an NRI. The Dodgers might value his services more than other clubs (belief that he calls a good game, stuff like that) but I don’t see the league overall falling over itself to sign him.
by Michael White on Aug 15, 2011 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions
He won't get much for sure
maybe more then he got, but not 3.5 million
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Rod Barajas got 3.5 Million.
That is the only argument I have.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
He parlayed a month of dead cat bounce into $3+MM. Navarro will end the year with a sub .300 wOBA and possibly sub .200 batting average.
by Michael White on Aug 15, 2011 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I believe but cannot prove that part of his raise went toward the fact that he’d be the #1 catcher / “every day” starter (no catcher starts every day — you know what I mean).
If that is true, Navarro can expect a raise from his current pay, which assumes he is a backup.
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Aug 15, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Me thinks the bidding war for Dioner Navarro will be but a skirmish.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Aug 15, 2011 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh, I agree. Just saying that I expect Navarro will make more next year than this year, if he is expected to start.
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by Humma Kavula on Aug 15, 2011 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Not sure about the second part of that sentence, but yes, Navarro/Ellis starts the year with the Dodgers.
by Michael White on Aug 15, 2011 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I get Misty the moment he’s near.
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by Humma Kavula on Aug 15, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
take it to the catcher thread
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
A catcher in the hand is worth two in the bush leagues.
by Xeifrank on Aug 15, 2011 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Wah the Dodgers don't get on base enough
http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/team/_/stat/batting/league/nl/sort/onBasePct/order/true
.317 OBP is good for 9th in the NL, and is 0.006 away from being #5.
It’s 2011, offense sucks.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
9th out of 15 is bad
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
It’s harder to stomach when it’s the same three guys getting on base.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Aug 15, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Good thing nearly all the hits are singles!!!
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Yet Kemp still has 89
amazing
Nothing is ever easy.
by drulenarendes on Aug 15, 2011 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions
amazing that .317 is only 9th instead of last. Sad to see how ineffective hitters are on getting on base.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
The biggest change in the last 25 years
strike outs have gone up from about 15-16% of PA to now averaging almost 18.5% of PA.
Home runs and walks have steadily gone down over the last 8-10 years.
Not sure if this means that pitchers are not worried about guys hitting strikes or that batters got progressively chase happy with poorer pitching and some new ballparks more attuned to hitting than pitching.
So
less power
more strikeouts
I blame the Island, to many Dominicans playing baseball.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
13th in SLG and OPS, though. Our team has a terrible offense no matter how you slice it.
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Aug 15, 2011 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t know… which is sadder:
1. The Dodgers have Aaron Miles batting fifth
2. The Dodgers probably should have Aaron Miles batting fifth, or, at least, it doesn’t matter.
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Aug 15, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Wonder how much Dylan Bundy will get from the O’s. He is supposedly the best HS pitching prospect of all-time.
Any relation to Ted?
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by Humma Kavula on Aug 15, 2011 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions
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