Dodgers 2011 Draft Review and Ranking
by Brandon Lennox on Aug 16, 2011 11:30 AM PDT
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PrintThe 2011 signing deadline was yesterday, so it's time to evaluate the Dodgers draft as a whole. Overall the Dodgers did a good job of signing the majority of their draftees - they signed 9 of their top 10 picks, 17 of their top 20, and 30 of 50 overall - but they still had a very underwhelming draft in terms of talent. There isn't that one guy to get really excited about, although our top pick Chris Reed could turn into a useful big league player one day. We gave out very few over slot bonuses, and will probably rank in the bottom 3 of bonus money given out overall. That being said, I wanted to review our draft a little differently this year by doing a quick/rough ranking of the players we signed, and also talk about a few of the unsigned players. Some of the info I'm providing on the players will be a repeat of what I wrote about them in my original draft post, but I figured it'd be useful to have everything in one place.
Signed Players
1) Chris Reed (1st round, LHP Stanford) - Reed wasn't the 16th best overall talent in this draft, but he seems to have the most potential of all the Dodger draftees. The organization will use him as a starter, and he figures to move quickly through the system. He's supposed to begin his career at Rancho Cucamonga very soon. The lefty can touch 96 mph and has 3 quality pitches (fastball, power slider, and above-average changeup).
2) Ryan O'Sullivan (4th round, Oklahoma City University) - Ryan is the brother of current Royal Sean O'Sullivan, and has not pitched in college of the last two seasons due to an elbow issue and then academic reasons. However he throws in the low 90's (up to 94), and has a hard curveball. Baseball America actually says that he has "the same command but better stuff than his older brother". I was worried that he wouldn't sign, and I'm glad he did because I while his ceiling might not be all that high, I'd say he has a decent chance to one day make it to the big leagues.
3) Alex Santana (2nd round, 3B, Mariner HS) - The son of Rafael Santana, Alex is a 6'4" 3rd baseman who has strong wrists, is a good line drive hitter, and has good speed. He is extremely young and very raw, which shows in his strikeout numbers in the Arizona League. He's hitting .245 with 1 homer for the Arizona Dodgers, but it's hard to even look at those numbers given his age. I like his ceiling and could be a solid major leaguer one day, but he could just as easily turn into just another organizational player.
4) Scott McGough (5th round, RHP, University of Oregon) - McGough, son of a former Indian farmhand, has done nothing but impress since signing with the Dodgers. He is an outstanding athlete and is a bullpen arm with two potential plus pitches. He had a mid 90's fastball that can hit 97 mph, and a wipeout slider that sits in the low 80's. The Dodgers seems to be working him pretty hard despite his college workload, so that's a bit concerning.
5) Pratt Maynard (3rd round, C, NC State) - Maynard has struggled since turning pro, but I think he turns it around next year. Remember Blake Smith's first professional season? Maynard has good plate discipline. He hit .323 this year, but he lost a lot of his power this season with the switch to the new bats in college and projects as more of a gap hitter in the pros. Even still I think he could eventually be a big league starter, although it's highly unlikely he'll ever be a star.
6) O'Koyea Dickson (12th round, 1B, Sonoma St. University) - Dickson is a somewhat compact power-hitting 1st baseman who transferred to Sonoma State for his junior season. Dickson's 11 homers in 2011 were more than double that of any teammate, and he also hit .341 for the Seawolves. Since signing, Dickson has done nothing but hit and so far has been the best player of the 2011 class. Hopefully that success will continue as he moves up through the system.
7) Rick Anton (8th round, LHP, Utah) - This lefty is a senior at Utah, and according to Baseball America "He pitches with a fringy fastball but has touched 92 mph as late as the fourth inning, with a four-pitch mix. In addition to the fastball, he throws a changeup, a curveball and a cutter that he added this year." Since turning pro, Anton has been great and has a 1.64 ERA through 33 innings split between the Pioneer League and Midwest League.
8) Justin Boudreaux (14th round, SS, Southeastern Louisiana University) - Bourdeaux has a good combination of power and speed, although neither tool has really been on display since turning pro. Baseball America had a rather glowing report on him, however, and if he can stick at shortstop then he has the chance to be a decent Dodger prospect.
9) Scott Barlow (6th round, RHP, Golden Valley HS) - I'm usually a big fan of high school arms, but I'm not over excited about Barlow. One report has his fastball in the high 80's, with a change and a slow breaking ball as his secondary pitches. He seems to be a bit wild, but he also struck out quite a few high school hitters as demonstrated by a 17 K game during his junior season. He'll probably make a couple of appearances in the Arizona League in the upcoming weeks.
10) Jesus Valdez (17th round, 3B/RHP, Oxnard CC) - Valdez is an interesting player because he was mostly a pitcher in college, but has been used as a 3rd baseman with the Dodgers thus far. He's actually put up decent offensive numbers so far in the Arizona League, although he hasn't played since July 25th. He's only 19 years old, and is one of the wildcards in this draft.
More after the jump...
11) Tyler Ogle (9th round, C, University of Oklahoma) - Ogle took over the catching duties from JT Wise at Oklahoma, and is a similar offensive minded catcher. Ogle is a good right handed power hitter and makes consistent contact. He hit .343 this season with 9 homers and 15 doubles in 201 at bats. On defense, his arm strength is described as fringy. He signed late, and will give the Dodgers some additional catching depth at the minor league level.
12) Scott Wingo (11th round, SS, University South Carolina) - The two-time College World Series hero bring experience and a winning attitude to the Dodgers. He seems like the kind of player that will fight until he one day makes it to the big leagues, although it will probably be as a bench player at best. He's a hard working player, but he wasn't drafted out of high school or after his junior season last year.
13) Craig Stem (15th round, RHP, Traveca Nazarene University) - Stem is a 6'5" righty who had a solid season for the TNU Trojans after spending two years at Western Kentucky. He was used as a starting pitcher in 2011 and threw 5 complete games in 2011, including 1 shutout. His ERA was 3.93 through 73.1 innings, and he struck out 75 while opposing batters hit .222 against him. I'm not sure about his stuff, but from reading a few articles I get the feeling that he throws in the low 90's.
14) Malcolm Holland (33rd round, 2B, Hamilton HS) - The Dodgers signed Holland away from a football scholarship at Boise St. where he was going to play defensive back. I don't know much about Holland as a baseball player, but Logan White said that he has tools similar to Dee Gordon. He's struggled so far in the Arizona League, but is quick and still very young.
15) Matt Shelton (24th round, RHP, Sam Houston St University) - Shelton is a 6'5" senior who posted a 2.87 ERA in 2011 through 94 innings. He had 89 K's, and opposing batters hit .237 against him. He was a first-team All-Southland selection this season. He's been great so far in the Pioneer League with a 2.45 ERA and 19 K's in 18.1 innings.
16) Scott Woodward (7th round, 3B, Coastal Carolina) - I don't see a whole lot of potential here, and he seemed like an overdraft in the 7th round. He tends to swing and miss quite a bit, and is currently hitting just .219 for the Raptors.
17) Mike Thomas (35th round, LHP, Rider) - Thomas is a 6'2" lefty who had a 2.34 ERA for Rider in 2011. He recorded 92 strikeouts in 96 innings, and batters hit .240 against him. He put up good numbers in the Arizona Rookie League and was recently promoted to Ogden.
18) Freddie Cabrera (26th round, RHP, Central Methodist University) - Cabrera played at NAIA school Central Methodist and went 6 and 4 with a 3.06 ERA through 82.1 innings. He is from Puerto Rico, and can touch 95 MPH. He received a surprised to promotion to the California League earlier this season, but is now back in the Rookie Leagues.
19) Garrett Bush (19th round, RHP, Seminole State JC) - Bush is a 6'5" righty who spent his first few years of college at Auburn. He is relatively new to pitching and has a projectable frame, but Baseball America calls his stuff fringy at best. He has yet to make a professional appearance.
20) Joe Winker (28th round, OF, Mercer University) - According to the Mercer University website "Winker was a four-year starter for Mercer and has proven himself as one of the best hitters in the A-Sun Conference. A Freshman All-American in 2008, the Orlando, Fla. native concluded his career with a breakout senior season that led to an Atlantic Sun All-Conference second team selection. Winker hit .359 this season and ranked third in the A-Sun with a .630 slugging percentage, tied for seventh with 13 home runs and ninth in the league with a .448 on-base percentage." One other note is that he's been tearing it up in Arizona, although he's a bit old for the league.
21) Chris O'Brien (18th round, C, Wichita State - The son of 15 year MLB veteran Charlie O'Brien was a below average player during his first 2 seasons at Wichita State, but then really turned things around as a junior. In 2011 O'Brien hit .410 with 10 homers, 25 doubles, and 70 RBI's and was named as a semi-finalist for the Golden Spikes award. What was most impressive, however, was his 40 to 18 walk to strikeout ratio. His defense isn't great, but hopefully it's good enough for him to stay behind the plate as a professional. He's held his own so far in the Arizona League.
22) Garrett Bolt (23rd round, RHP, Western Illinois University) - Bolt was outstanding in 2010 at Muskegon CC (1.19 ERA, 35 K's in 29.1 innings), but things didn't go so well after transferring in 2011. With Western Illinois Bold threw 17 innings and had an 11.65 ERA with just 10 K's. He's seen limited action in the Arizona League since turning pro.
23) Kevin Taylor (36th round, 2B, Western Nevada CC) - Taylor, who stands at 5'11", apparently didn't play at Western Nevada in 2011 due to some sort of an injury. In 2010 he hit .328 with 3 HR's and 4 SB's. He signed at the deadline for an undisclosed amount.
24) Devin Shines (38th round, OF, Oklahoma State) - Devon is the son of form Expos 1B Razor Shines. He didn't really shine at the plate for the OK State Cowboys, however, as he hit just .270 in 2011. He also had 4 homers and 6 SB's. He's been doing well so far in the Arizona League, but doesn’t seem to have much projection.
25) Rob Chamra (34th round, RHP, North Carolina State) - Charma is 6'4" and 225. I'm not sure about his stuff, but I do know that he went 8-3 with a 4.35 ERA and 39 K's for the Wolfpack in 2011 through 68.1 innings. So far in the Arizona League he has a 3.48 ERA in 20.2 innings.
26) Kevin Thompson (48th round, SS, Eastern New Mexico) - Thompson is originally from La Canada, but he played his college ball in New Mexico and was mediocre at best. He had 2 career homers, 4 career SB's, and a career batting fielding percentage of just .901. He's already played at 3 levels since turning pro and should be a good organizational player.
27) Gregg Downing (47th round, LHP, Franklin Pierce University) - A smallish lefty, Downing had a 2.30 though 74.1 innings in 2011. He struck out 93 and walked 30. He currently has a 5.40 ERA in the Arizona Rookie League.
28) Stefan Jarrin (40th round, 2B, East LA College) - As we all know by now this is the son of Dodger Spanish announcer Jaime Jarrin. Much has already been written about him, but he doesn't seem to be much of a prospect at all. At least he's already gotten some playing time in the Arizona Rookie League.
29) J.J. Ethel (49th round, C, Louisville) - Ethel has a cool name, but he didn't do much at all during his 2 years at Louisville. J.J. hit .251 in 2011 with 0 HR's and 16 RBI's. I'm surprised he even signed but I guess he just wanted a chance to player.
30) Jeff Schaus (16th round, OF, Clemson) - He's already retired
Notable Unsigned Players (in the order I would have ranked them)
1) David Palladino (13th round, RHP, Emerson HS) - I would have liked to have signed this tall righty, but it seemed that we had no chance from the beginning. He went 10 and 1 with 3 no-hitters and a 1.08 ERA. Also, I know this sounds like a typo but Palladino actually allowed just 19 hits in 72 innings this season while striking out 131. The reason I know it's not a typo is because earlier in the year that same blog talked about how he had only given up 8 hits through 44 innings, and had an 18 strikeout game. He gets his fastball up to 93 mph, but I'm not sure about his secondary stuff.
2) Jamal Moore (10th round, LHP, Westchester HS) - The highest drafted player not to sign, Moore is an athletic player who I thought would sign. However he decided to attend college per his Facebook page because he wants to get an education first.
3) Vince Spiker (20th round, RHP, Johnson County CC) - Spiker is 6'3", and sounds like a decent mid round pick. Baseball America says he is well-rounded pitcher, although he's had various injuries over the past two years. From what I've read he throws in the mid to low 90's and has a slider, a curveball, and a changeup. Even with 4 pitches, however, he projects more of a reliever because he currently lacks consistent control.
4) Kyle Conwell (22nd round, OF, Bellevue CC) - Conwell hit .397 for Bellevue CC in 2011 with 4 homers and 38 RBI's, and led his team with a .491 OB%. He'd committed to Abilene Christian so I thought he'd be a relatively easy sign, but I guess I was wrong.
5) Travis Burnside (25th round, OF, Spartanburg Methodist College) - This is the second time the Dodgers let Burnside slip away as they also drafted him in 2009. He has decent speed and power, and hit .335 in 2011.
6) All other high school players - The Dodgers drafted a bunch of high school players in the later rounds, but I already knew that very few, if any, would sign. As it turns out Malcolm Holland was the only high school player to ink a deal besides 2nd rounder Alex Santana and 6th rounder Scott Barlow
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I think there is a greater then zero percent chance that the Dodgers have a new TV deal by next season
and therefore there is a greater then zero chance of signing fielder
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
but if I had to
I would be ok with settling for Pujols
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
so you think Pujols will get less
than Fielder?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 16, 2011 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions
No I was just joking
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
I mean if we are fantasizing
why settle for Fielder when we could have Pujols? True Fielder is younger
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Because we’re getting Fielder, Reyes and Beltran. It’s the Mets+ strategy.
by Michael White on Aug 16, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
we’re also then playing Dee, Sands and Federwicz, which would at least be entertaining.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
WGT
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 16, 2011 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
SMASH AND DASH
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Thunder and Lightning
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
Fire and Ice?
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
hammer and sickle
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Crime and Punishment
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
Smokey and the Bandit 3!
Smokey IS the Bandit!!
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 16, 2011 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Loney/Fielder poster
Prince and the Pauper
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
I agree with you that a new TV deal with upfront money is the only way a Fielder gets signed.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 16, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Would seem most of the upfront money has to be used to pay off Jamie since that is the only way she gets a payout without the team being sold.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Aug 16, 2011 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Right, but a new TV deal also sets the structure going forward and Frank needs to start buying love back.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 16, 2011 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
basically this
if he gets a fat new deal, he is going to tell Ned to make a big splash.
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Could be scarier than handing Toonces the car keys, but it will be a ride one way or another.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 16, 2011 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
i'm with Joe
LOL
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 16, 2011 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions
My big concern is that Ned would just divvy up his budget 8 ways again. We have just as many holes in 2012 as we did for 2011.
no I think McCourt is smart enough to know that won't buy the love
and will tell him to get an ELITE player. He’ll get confused and try to extend chad again.
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
by nolander on Aug 16, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Fox vs. Time Warner
Fox still has 2 years left on their deal. Is the Judge just going to throw that out? Won’t Fox sue?
If Fox agrees to opt out of last 2 years, how can we be sure that a new tv deal is at market price without an auction or bid war between Time Warner and Fox?
And how can we be sure the tv money goes exclusively to the Dodgers unless Gross allows MLB to maintain $5000+ transaction veto power?
But ya, I’m dreaming of Reyes and Fielder too
by florida dodger on Aug 16, 2011 7:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Hugh seemed very impressed with Scott McGough
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
He might be the best player out of this draft
if the Dodgers don’t Proctor him
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
My only regret, is that I did not think of L-7 as a Loney nickname until too late.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
Starting today is when he’s supposed to start his hot streak.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Aug 16, 2011 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
If Fife ever makes it to the majors can I call him Barney?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I didn't know you have a thing for purple dinasaurs
blah blah blah get of my lawn blah blah
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
And
then get hit with a Josie before I was born comment?
by bhsportsguy on Aug 16, 2011 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Hey, I loved, loved the Andy Griffith Show growing up, and we all know the whistle.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
i love when Charles Bronson filled in (Simpsons parody)
Barney: Hey, where’s Otis? He’s not in his cell.
“Andy”: I shot him.
Barney: Oh okWHAT!!!??
“Andy”: Now I’m going down to Emmet’s fix-it shop. To “fix” Emmet.
(whistle)
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 16, 2011 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Fife is a crack up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXoz-feUSEc
Towards the end he just laughs at the reporter’s ridiculous questions.
by silverwidow on Aug 16, 2011 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions
use this link to go directly to fife
http://youtu.be/GXoz-feUSEc?t=1m52s
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
"reporter"
I am a fan of pitchers with goggles.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 16, 2011 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
I always like the Chris Sabo look too!
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
If he ever gets suspended for throwing at a hitter, I’m using this headline:
Dodger Sentenced: 10 To Fife
by Eric Stephen on Aug 16, 2011 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions
I threw at a dude last night for trying to bunt. He’s like 6’5 250, struck out on three fastballs his first at bat, swung threw the first fastball his second at bat and tried to bunt the second pitch. Buzzed the tower (without hitting him, of course) and told him to play ball.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
Do the pitchers get to bat in your league?
"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"
I’m sure you’ll be a lot of fun in our softball game.
by Michael White on Aug 16, 2011 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions
totally different environment
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
You should see him try to hit golf balls. ;-)
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Aug 16, 2011 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m jealous you still get to play….they don’t have any semi pro leagues in south florida
"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"
it’s a work league, start your own!
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
Work league? Pitching all out? GTFOH….guy’s would be bailing every pitch LOL
"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"
6 teams, every team has about 5 or 6 good hitters in it, only a couple guys per team who bail. Fun league.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
I get the feeling from how you dominate it is not much fun for them until you are not pitching.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Aug 16, 2011 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions
What’s the age range? Are the guys in good shape? Sounds like it would be easy for you to be a men among boys in that type of set up.
"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"
lot of guys in the mid/high 20s, a few in the high 40s, rest are in between. I can touch 85 now that I’ve been working on it and I’m still only like the 3rd hardest thrower in our league. Every team has someone who throws 80.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
Maddz and I should be there for the picnic, and she’ll probably want to play, but there is a strong chance I’m not able to actually play in the game.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
Maddz did tell you it’s on Sunday, right?
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Aug 16, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah, but i will have pitched the day prior, so throwing a softball is probably going to hurt.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
i’ll gladly play first base, but I figure there’ll be others who want that position. Suppose I can also catch.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
I want to DH
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
You going to roll the ball back to the pitcher:)
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
It is possible that once I warm up I’ll find I can’t throw and will play the whole game throwing the ball underhand.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I expect it will take me a hell of a long time to warm up. I may have to show up early, keep robotmadeofnails company and start throwing before the rest of you arrive.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Tiger Balm, ibuprofen and whiskey and you’ll be loose the whole game
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
I take 4 advils every Sunday AM
they are the fountain of youth
by Hollywood Joe on Aug 16, 2011 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions
holy hell man, it’s a 1 pill 24hour dose!
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
welcome to 44
call me in 19 years and let me know how you’re doing
by Hollywood Joe on Aug 16, 2011 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions
oh, when I took up baseball again I accepted the fact that I’ll live the second half of my life with my right arm in a sling or addicted to morphine.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
Flintstones chewable morphine?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 16, 2011 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
You’ve got left handed people who need a position.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Aug 16, 2011 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Don Mattingly played second base, so no excuses! :)
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
I guess I played there when I was 12.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Aug 16, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions
When I bunt and you are playing 3rd base I want to see how corkscrewed you get to make the throw
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
it would be a shame to see your legs collapse under you as the ball bounces off your thigh
by Hollywood Joe on Aug 16, 2011 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Gotcha, she was saying you might not be able to make it if it was then.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Aug 16, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
use a lefty glove alice and leave the cannon at home
by Hollywood Joe on Aug 16, 2011 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Lefties are mutants.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
I agree, I find them disgusting. Watching a lefty play golf makes me nauseous.
by Hollywood Joe on Aug 16, 2011 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I found that dating a left-handed girl made for a nice change of pace.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
dating a left-handed girl means never sitting in a booth together.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
Even if she’s on your left?
I never sit side by side with the person I was with when dining as a party of two. I want to look at the person I’m listening to.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
getting in the booth first is just ungentlemanly.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
The booth has two sides! One of them works.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Aww, too bad. Was hoping you'd pitch to me.
Trying to gauge how good of a hitter I am before i try out for the club team in November.
by Taylor Maricle on Aug 16, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Whereabouts are you from?
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
Are you heading back to Davis soon?
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
I’d have no problem meeting you and HJ somewhere out there the weekend after and working with you. I probably still throw about as hard as a typical reliever at Davis would throw.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
I’m game
I’ll be overmatched, but I won’t bunt
by Hollywood Joe on Aug 16, 2011 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I was hoping to get a 10 minute pitching lesson from Gary
If we can figure it out, I’ll throw to you
by Hollywood Joe on Aug 16, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions
10 minutes you’ll throw harder than you knew you could, 20 and you won’t get hurt doing it.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
i charge a dollar per the minute. $1 for Minute 1, $2 for minute 2, and so on :)
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
You should charge using a Fibonacci sequence so it really spirals out of control.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
now that's
a sales pitch
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 16, 2011 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I thoiught
this was just some guys in his workplace or surrounding companies playing a little hardball.
by bhsportsguy on Aug 16, 2011 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah, it’s almost entirely aerospace professionals. This guy just happens to be a total dick off the field as well so I already wanted to drill him.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
I'll allow it
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
I love it! Then again from age 11 until 21 there wasn’t a year I didn’t lead my team in HBP or ejections. My ass like behavior was construed as having a ton of “heart”
"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"
amazing how times have changed. Randy Johnson and Roger Clemens were idolized for making hitters uncomfortable in the box. Not even ten years after their primes, even hitting someone in the leg to make a point is beginning to be looked down on.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
Always the ribs….even Victorino agrees
"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"
I don’t see the problem with throwing it near someone’s head if you purposely miss. I could just as easily thrown it behind the guy and gotten my point across. Actually hitting the guy, no matter where it is, is more of a detriment to the pitcher and team than anything.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
If your control was that precise maybe you wouldn’t be spending your time dominating a recreation league. You are basically counting on amateur’s to react properly to the buzz but it only takes one person to freeze, or lean the wrong way for the precise buzz to end up in the wrong place.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Aug 16, 2011 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I had heard that one never throws behind the head of a same-handed hitter, because he will tend to back from the inside pitch, but the pitch keeps coming in and he end up backing his head into the pitch.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Aug 16, 2011 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I would get pretty grumpy if I thought someone was throwing at me, especially above the waist
that said, I would also never try to cheese dick down a bunt too because I felt overmatched
The only time I am sure I was thrown at is when I threw the pitcher from the other team out at first base from Right Field…but even then it was more of a joke that he threw in the dirt at my feet
by Hollywood Joe on Aug 16, 2011 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Why would you not bunt if you feel overmatched? The point is get on base isn’t it? If a pitcher can’t field a bunt then you have to take advantage of that. Hell in fast pitch softball everyone is over matched.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Aug 16, 2011 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions
because I pee standing up
If I felt overmatched, I would get pissed off at myself and dig in and try harder
I might bunt if the 3rd baseman was back, I might bunt if there were two on and no outs, I might bunt if we were chasing one late
but if I felt I had no chance up there, I’d quit or die before I went bush
by Hollywood Joe on Aug 16, 2011 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Bunting is not bush
It’s baseball. Bunting is part of baseball.
by Michael White on Aug 16, 2011 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I think it is great for all the bunters out there
I am not a pitcher, I am a hitter, I like to swing
I would feel abject shame if I bunted because I didn’t think I could hit the pitcher
by Hollywood Joe on Aug 16, 2011 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions
I’d rather have a hat trick then the shame of having to bunt or slash bunt because I couldn’t hack it against a pitcher.
Hence why I have had quite a few hat tricks in my day. Rick Ankiel struck my ass out three times but despite being a few years younger, better be damn sure I didn’t square to bunt unless I was given the sign to.
"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"
So you’re out there to simply have fun. Do they give you guys participation trophies at the end?
You want to have fun, or you want to win some baseball games dammit!
by Michael White on Aug 16, 2011 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions
:) Go hard or go home. My daughter signed up yesterday for fall ball. Better believe the first thing I taught her was to slide hard and slide late!
"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"
Yeah, because wiping out the kids knee’s is how rec baseball should be played at nine years old.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Joe and Joe now have a mutual admiration thing going on
that is AWESOME
by Hollywood Joe on Aug 16, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m kidding around of course, but I’m basically making the argument that if you refuse to bunt you are essentially selfish. As Phil pointed out, the point is to get on base. If you do that, then you’ve done your job for your team. By refusing to bunt because you find swinging the bat more enjoyable you are putting personal interests above those of your club.
by Michael White on Aug 16, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
how big of a douchebag the guy I threw at is should not be ignored :) I wanted to throw at him 6 weeks ago when our game got cancelled and he declared his team the winner because they would have won anyway. It just so happened that he gave me a reason last night.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
All you had to say was “he’s an engineer”
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Aug 16, 2011 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions
he’s a Systems Engineer.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
ding ding ding
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Like I said, I am down for a situational bunt, but I still live under the illusion that I best help the team swinging the bat and would have a hard time admitting to myself that I couldn’t hit someone
by Hollywood Joe on Aug 16, 2011 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions
As Dirty Harry said
“A man’s gotta know his limitations.”
He left out “having a wife helps keep him reminded.”
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
God that is stupid.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Aug 16, 2011 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions
it only gets worse the deeper you go in my head Phil
I am close to ape
by Hollywood Joe on Aug 16, 2011 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions
You're a good sized guy
If you were 5’7", 150-something like me, you’d bunt a helluva lot more.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Aug 16, 2011 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s not bad etiquette though. It’s the runner’s responsibility to ensure they are never thrown out at 1B when they hit a ball safely to RF. If the RF makes an exceptional play to throw the runner out by hustling (or even coming close to throwing them out) then the RF should NEVER be in danger of getting “bull horns” his next at bat.
"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"
I was probably 8 years old or so, but I remember a teammate getting thrown out at first base from left field.
by Michael White on Aug 16, 2011 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions
I saw this happen in a men’s slow-pitch softball game I was in. Older guy (probably my age now!) was pitcher for the other team and a dead pull hitter. Our LF played him near the chalk, fielded a one or two hop line drive and threw him out at 1B – these are 60 foot basepaths, mind you.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
an ass is an ass
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Aug 16, 2011 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Hopefully a prank or a publicity deprived school policeman shooting himself.
Santa Monica College and two schools nearby are on lockdown after police received a report of gunfire at the college campus.
Lt. Kathy Keane of the Santa Monica Police Department said officials received at least one call stating that someone had been shot on campus. Police raced to the college and are searching for a possible gunman. But she said police have not found either a victim or a suspect.
Bruce Smith, spokesman for Santa Monica College, said the lockdown was ordered about 11:30 a.m. after the school police received three calls of an armed person on campus. Other law enforcement agencies, including the Santa Monica Police Department, have been called in and are sweeping the campus. So far, there has been no confirmation of the armed man or any shooting, Smith said.
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The college is currently in between summer and fall sessions so no classes are being held, though there are a few students on campus, Smith said.
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John Adams Middle School and Will Rogers Learning Community are also on lockdown, officials confirmed.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Aug 16, 2011 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions
oh geez
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 16, 2011 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Sounds benign
Bruce Smith, spokesman for Santa Monica College, said the lockdown was ordered about 11:30 a.m. after the school police received three calls of an armed person on campus. Other law enforcement agencies, including the Santa Monica Police Department, have been called in and are sweeping the campus. So far, there has been no confirmation of the armed man or any shooting, Smith said.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Aug 16, 2011 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions
hopefully it's a false alarm
and no one gets hurt
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 16, 2011 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Good time to rob a bank in Santa Monica near Montana
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Aug 16, 2011 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions
i'll get the van
you bring the hockey masks
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 16, 2011 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Love it…..Phil is gangster though. Tommy, you and I would help him get the money then he’d shoot us and take our share like the Joker did in the dark knight
"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"
not if we
shoot him first :)
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 16, 2011 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Regarding Gordon, I’ve always thought his best current comp was Alcides Escobar. Alcides is also skinnyswag with a great rep for defense. He had a tough rookie campaign hitting .238 / .288 and was part of the trade for Grienke. Some might say the centerpiece.
He struggled mightily in his first 238 plate appearances this year .209 / .247 seven doubles no other XBH
Since then in another 234 plate appearances .299 /.338 with 18 extra base hits.
No reason why Dee Gordon can’t a better version of Alcides Escobar in that he hits from the left side and is faster.
These guys like Ozzie and Vizquel really struggled with the bat in the beginning but their defense and speed kept them in the lineup all the time. I’m not saying Dee is at that level defensively but I think most would say what they have seen of Gordon has been quite impressive has it not? I heard for years about how great Hu was with the glove but when I finally saw the glove he did nothing that I would not expect any SS to do and I never saw anything that looked like an extra ordinary defensive player. Can’t say the same for Dee, even when he’s not hitting he still seems to be a focal point on the team.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I apologize for bringing back a dormant topic
But was catching up on the comments on the ballpark railing from yesterday. I have the utmost respect for Hollywood Joe and understand what he’s saying, but he’s bringing a black-and-white approach to a situation that calls for way more nuance than he’s allowing for.
Speaking from personal experience, I can say that my then 4-year-old son nearly went over a Staples Center railing despite my extreme vigilance in attempting to watch him and the presence of other parents around him. The suggestion that, had he gone over the railing, it would have been solely due to a lack of common sense, is wrong.
Safety restrictions are a part of our society, and a good one. Surely, there’s a limit, but there are situations where that limit has clearly not been reached. Saying that nothing more should be done because, basically, you’re fed up with overregulation and stupid people, while ignoring the specifics, is not an argument against making things safer when the cost is so relatively minor.
by JonWeisman on Aug 16, 2011 11:59 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
I’d say that HJ was on an island on that one. I have as much a desire to see government out of my face regarding numerous civil liberty’s (mainly required helmets) but properly designing a safe environment seems a no brainer to me.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Aug 16, 2011 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I just want to be able to be more naked more often
is that so wrong?
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
We have no helmet laws here in Idaho yet they have this huge campaign going about people buckling up. Someone make some sense of that for me.
They don’t want people to die and way more people drive than ride bikes.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Aug 16, 2011 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
It freaked me out in Hawaii not seeing helmets being worn..
But I heard something that stuck with me in Wyoming and Montana a few weeks ago.
the difference between wearing a helmet and not wearing one is a open or closed casket at the funeral. Crude and sounds dickish but it made sense at the time.
by NotJoeTorre on Aug 16, 2011 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions
As I said in those comments, I felt from the get go the Staples railings were dangerous from the first day I sat in row one of the 3rd level.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Aug 16, 2011 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
The Staples Center
railing in the luxury boxes are very low.
by bhsportsguy on Aug 16, 2011 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Agreed.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Aug 16, 2011 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I think your right Jon
My point was poorly made, if a place is unsafe for normal usage then it should surely be made safe, for normal usage
We should not, as a people, assume we are safe regardless of how we use it, and everytime we have a tragedy a easy and fast reaction is to fix everything but the behavior of people
It is not black and white, but I was probably in a black mood at the time
by Hollywood Joe on Aug 16, 2011 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Agreed
I think the designers do have a bit of conflicting requirements. The have to meet safety regulations and generally have a safe design, but the building owner wants to get those front row seats in and have them not have a sight line problem. Solvable, I imagine.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Aug 16, 2011 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Yea, like making the railings waist high instead of shin high. How hard is that?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Aug 16, 2011 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
who’s waist?
Mine, a six year old, Kobe? Shaq?
by Hollywood Joe on Aug 16, 2011 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions
The average Male, this isn’t rocket science so don’t it out to be. Yes it might be to low for someone 6’5 and then that person will need to take heed when standing. It may get in the line of sight for a five year old in which case don’t buy front row seats. Nothing is going to be perfect but you can certainly make it work for most of the human race.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
At Old Pauley
they had a rail in the upper section that ran right in front of the first row of seats in the upper decks. It was very small but it was definitely in your sight line, I believe they are installing plexi glass “walls” so you can see through the barrier in this renovation.
or nets
wonderful wonderful nets
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Truth
if there were nets, I would act more foolish
by Hollywood Joe on Aug 16, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions
and then it would be your own fault when you fall to your death
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
The Dodgers are holding a promotion where a fan will get to throw out the first pitch on September 20. I’m assuming they mean ceremonial.
if I was allowed to throw one pitch in the bigs, only one, I would drill the unlucky bastard who got to face me
by Hollywood Joe on Aug 16, 2011 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Darren Rovell lists the 10 highest priced college football games in 2011 (fuck CNBC for making it a slide show)
LSU at Oregon on September 3 is tops, USC at Notre Dame (October 22) is third.
Robots lets out a yelp of delight at the thought of watching Gallardo and Grienke against the Kempmurphs
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Aug 16, 2011 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Jets picked up that huge Dodger fan QB from Alabama.
by silverwidow on Aug 16, 2011 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
easy to see why you might feel that way
by Hollywood Joe on Aug 16, 2011 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Generally speaking Delias doesn’t like people.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Aug 16, 2011 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I always thought
if you don’t ask him questions, bother him, or look at him, he is fine with you.
by bhsportsguy on Aug 16, 2011 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions
The hipsters were slightly less amused.
by Michael White on Aug 16, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions
You guys should be nicer to hipsters you would be coffeeless without them.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Aug 16, 2011 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I always want to call that Dodger hotline and tell them that Eugenio Velez, for example, is hindering my enjoyment of the game.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I thought the hipsters were going for trilby hats these days.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I’m having a tough time trying to decide which hat to wear to the picnic that would irritate the most people.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
x
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
it makes me angry
its so god awful ugly
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Vince Spiker
Guy should be a volleyball player, amirite? As should have Charlie Spikes.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Or a hard-nose infielder who like to bust up DPs. But not a pitcher.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Aug 16, 2011 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions
As it turns out Malcolm Holland was the only high school player to ink a deal besides 2nd rounder Alex Santana.
I didn’t realize this. Feels like cost containment. That is an usual ratio, isn’t it?
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Sixth rounder Scott Barlow also was a high school pick.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 16, 2011 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
all i saw was
Sixth rounder Scott Barlow also was a high school pick high school prick
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by Phil Gurnee on Aug 16, 2011 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Are you saying Brandon lied to me??
Three still seems low. Still and unusual ratio?
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Aug 16, 2011 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions
It does seem like a really small ratio of high schoolers.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 16, 2011 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I thinked
Oakland signed zero high school players and the Angels signed two (which was part of their new strategy of not drafting high school players).
frick i knew i had made at least 1 mistake
i put this whole post together way to quickly for me not to have messed something up
by Brandon Lennox on Aug 16, 2011 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m gonna guess we’re near the bottom of draft bonuses again.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Aug 16, 2011 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions
But we pick near the middle it can’t be helped /third round pick gets 4.4 million.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Aug 16, 2011 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
It has certainly been trending down since those first White drafts
Just a quick perusal per BA all-time draft database.
2010 – 5 High School players signed
2009 – 5
2008 – 7
2007 – 7
2006 – 7
2005 – 10
2004 – 5
2003 – 14
2002- 13
by bhsportsguy on Aug 16, 2011 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions
TJ Simers?
is that you?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 16, 2011 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Simers has been running that countdown since 2008
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
he had an article about it today
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 16, 2011 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions
When's the TJ Simers ____ Days to Retirement/or Firing Countdown?
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Guys who don't think batters should bunt to try to reach base
Hart RF
Morgan CF
Braun LF
Fielder 1B
McGehee 3B
Betancourt SS
Hairston 2B
Lucroy C
Gallardo P
6 bombs
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
So glad Weeks is hurt.
This is a nice team but I don’t see how they are so good at home.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Heh. Ok, I knew we agreed that Law can be a snarky jerk (even though I still agree with him more than not)
but this did make me laugh.
keithlaw
Sergio Romo is hurt, so the Giants will probably send Brandon Belt back to AAA
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
saw that beltran is going on dl, replaced by tejada
all I can say is haw haw haw haw haw
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Aug 16, 2011 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions
any word on Sandoval
dude fouled a ball right off his ankle, left the game yesterday
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 16, 2011 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
think the xrays were negative
so hes probably day to day?
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Aug 16, 2011 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions
xrays inconclusive as the rays couldn’t penetrate the stratosphere.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
yeah that one's not serious
they waited too long with Beltran to DL and that’s quite a downgrade with Tejada but if Beltran can come back healthy they still have a good shot to take that division given their schedule gets easier soon.
that said, I will certainly chortle if they choke this weak division away…
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Stupid UPS.
Bought a hat from MLB.com on Friday and got 2nd day shipping. Which I assumed would mean it would be there yesterday (Saturday, Monday). Instead, it shipped… yesterday and will get here tomorrow.
thats...
not ups’s fault.
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
its either a) MLB.com's fault for not processing the order fast enough
or b) your fault for ordering it late in the evening.
c) also what tommy says below, best case for you was tuesday.
d) then again, I ordered something saturday night from amazon with 2 day shipping and got it yesterday. but that was from ontrack and amazon is awesome.
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
yes
Amazon rules
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 16, 2011 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Pay your sales tax
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
that is a man who thinks of the good of society before he thinks of himself
Marty and Warren Buffet, pillars of our time
by Hollywood Joe on Aug 16, 2011 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions
more like a pillar of salt
I don’t pay it either. I’d be happy to pay sales tax for online purchases (and think its only fair). I just need to not be given a choice.
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
I ordered it Friday morning. 9:45 local time, so 11:45 eastern. Even so, wouldn’t today be the 2nd business day (Monday, Tuesday)?
if they had processed your order on friday and shipped it out on friday
yeah. Not all sites process orders that quickly no matter what shipping you choose. Its lame, but true.
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
business days
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 16, 2011 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions
had to get the reaction of this here
MLBTR with suggestions of how the Cubs could get rid of Zambrano.
Zambrano and $2MM to the Dodgers for Juan Uribe. If the Dodgers are having buyer’s remorse on Uribe, this could be a way to wash their hands of the deal after 2012 instead of ’13. But since Uribe still has some positive value, the Cubs would have to add a player or additional money.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 16, 2011 1:30 PM PDT reply actions
Yes.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
no
we have enough pitchers. I would rather have Uribe’s glove and I think he is way more likely to bounce back then the guy who has lost his fastball
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Agreed
Zambrano hasn’t had an x-FIP better than 4.20 since 2005.
by Michael White on Aug 16, 2011 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions
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