Dodgers Fifth Starters Improved In 2011
In 2010, the Dodgers had quite a void at the bottom of their starting rotation*. Ely Mania was nice for a while, but ended with a thud. John Ely, Carlos Monasterios, Charlie Haeger, Ramon Ortiz, and James McDonald combined for 40 starts, and left a lot to be desired. The sour taste left by fewer than five innings per start averaged by that crew contributed greatly to Ned Colletti's starter spending spree last winter.
*I'm combining Vicente Padilla and Ted Lilly as the singular "fourth starter" since Lilly was acquired on July 31 and Padilla was injured for most of the final two months.
Nathan Eovaldi, making his third major league start Wednesday night against the Brewers, is the latest to fill the fifth starter role this season, a spot that has been mostly split between a pair of pitchers who eventually had season-ending surgery. Jon Garland and Rubby De La Rosa have pitched 19 of the 22 starts by Dodgers fifth starters this season, and the role has produced relatively better in 2011.
| Dodgers Fifth Starters | ||||||||||
| Year | Starts | QS | Record | IP/GS | HR/9 | BB/9 | K/9 | ERA | FIP | WHIP |
| 2010 | 40 | 11 | 17-23 | 4.72 | 1.43 | 4.29 | 6.58 | 6.34 | 5.26 | 1.648 |
| 2011 | 22 | 12 | 8-14 | 5.74 | 1.00 | 4.20 | 6.98 | 3.99 | 4.34 | 1.401 |
The fifth starters have averaged an inning more per start than last season, and have better numbers across the board. In 2010, fifth starters were a combined 6-21, while this year the fifth starters are 5-11. However, the Dodgers winning percentage in these games has dropped from .425 to .364. The bullpen was 11-2 in games started by fifth starters last season.
Rib Notes
Zack Greinke has had a bizarre 2011. He fractured a rib playing pickup basketball in spring training, and didn't make his Milwaukee debut until May 4. On the surface, Greinke is having a good year, at 11-4 with a 4.08 ERA. But dig deeper and Greinke's season looks even better. He has career-best rates in both strikeouts (30.1%) and walks (5.5%), and would be leading the majors in xFIP (2.26) if he had nine more innings.
Greinke has seven straight quality starts, and since the All-Star break his ERA is a paltry 1.56. At Miller Park this season, Greinke is 8-0 with nine walks and 85 strikeouts in 64 innings. The Brewers have won all 10 of Greinke's home starts this season.
Lineups
| Dodgers | Brewers | |||
| LF |
Gwynn |
RF |
Hart |
|
| 3B |
Blake |
CF |
Morgan |
|
| RF |
Ethier |
LF |
Braun |
|
| CF |
Kemp |
1B |
Fielder |
|
| 2B |
Miles | 3B |
McGehee |
|
| 1B |
Loney |
SS |
Betancourt |
|
| C |
Navarro |
2B |
Hairston |
|
| SS |
Sellers |
C |
Lucroy |
|
| P |
Eovaldi |
P |
Greinke |
|
Notes
- Since the All-Star break, Dodgers starting pitchers have a 3.01 ERA, are averaging 6.3 innings per start, and have struck out 8.33 batters per nine innings. They have 19 quality starts in 29 games.
- This series is the sixth four-game series for the Dodgers this season, and the fourth time they have lost at least the first two games of those series.
- Jamey Carroll has 396 plate appearances this season. With four more PA, he will earn a $75,000 bonus per his contract. Carroll has bonuses for three more plateaus at 400, capping at $125,000 for 550 PA.
Game Time: 5:10 p.m.
TV: KCAL
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I’m combining Vicente Padilla and Ted Lilly . . .
May I suggest Vicented Padilly?
by kinbote on Aug 17, 2011 1:42 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Greinke will qualify for the xFIP title after tonight.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
Not unless he records an out in the 10th inning.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 17, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Greinke
currently sporting a…
K/9 of 11.29
BB/9 of 2.04
wow! Has to be the highest differential (for a SP with 100+ IP) between the two no?
Ratio or raw number, because Roy Halladay.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Aug 17, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Then Halladay is in the lead with a 7.7 K/BB.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Aug 17, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Player SO/BB IP Year Age W L W-L% BB SO ERA ERA+ OPS
Cliff Lee 10.28 212.1 2010 31 12 9 .571 18 185 3.18 130 .618
Curt Schilling 9.58 259.1 2002 35 23 7 .767 33 316 3.23 142 .613
Pedro Martinez 8.88 217.0 2000 28 18 6 .750 32 284 1.74 291 .473
Ben Sheets 8.25 237.0 2004 25 12 14 .462 32 264 2.70 162 .637
Carlos Silva 7.89 188.1 2005 26 9 8 .529 9 71 3.44 130 .741
Roy Halladay 7.70 184.2 2011 34 15 5 .750 23 177 2.53 152 .588
Curt Schilling 7.51 256.2 2001 34 22 6 .786 39 293 2.98 157 .675
Roy Halladay 7.30 250.2 2010 33 21 10 .677 30 219 2.44 165 .645
Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Play Index Tool Used
Generated 8/17/2011.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Sticking out like a sore thumb
Ha Ha
Carlos Silva with only 71 K’s in 188 innings, but only 9 walks
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
amazing what happens when you don’t have John Ely pitching games
Chukwudiebere Maduabum FTW!!!!!!!
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It's unbelievable how good the pitching has been
Yet how awful the offense has been and WITH someone like Rivera coming to try and breathe life into it! :/
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Randy Wolf certainly could have done it a couple days ago.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Aug 17, 2011 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions
The last pitcher to throw 11 innings was Dave Stewart in 1990. A 1-0 shutout of Seattle.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 17, 2011 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Nice
I didn’t notice Erik Hanson went 10 innings too.
Other 10-inning duels since 1990:
Bobby Jones v. Todd Stottlemyre, 1995
Mark Langston v. Bill Wegman, 1992
Mark Portugal vs. Greg Swindell, 1991
All six of those starters went 10 innings exactly.
Mark Langston’s final five starts for the 1992 Angels:
9 innings
10
8
10
9
by Eric Stephen on Aug 17, 2011 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions
the game changed in a very, very short amount of time.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
We must have good records of what kinds of pitcher injuries occurred in the early 1990s. Has anyone looked at those records and compared them to today? Do we have more or fewer injuries now? What effect do pitch counts have on injuries? What effect does better diagnosis have?
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Aug 17, 2011 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Stewart pitched 10 or more innings three times in a 53-day span in 1990.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 17, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Bill Wegman pitched 10 innings three times in 1992.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 17, 2011 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Last 10-inning game was Aaron Harang in 2007, but it wasn’t a complete game. Only others to throw 10 frames since 2000 have been Halladay twice (2003, 2007) and Mark Mulder (2005). Those three games were CG wins (2 shutouts)
by Eric Stephen on Aug 17, 2011 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions
You can make the argument that the 5th starter mess was the single biggest reason the Dodgers dropped out of contention last year.
Kemp pretending he didn’t know what 2009 was didn’t help much either
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
Octavio Dotel didn’t help, either, but that’s neither here nor there.
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Aug 17, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
From second half on Broxton sure didn’t help
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Andre and his singles sure didn’t help
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Ethier, from coming back from the DL on 5/31 until the end of the year:
.260/.335/.413
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Aug 17, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Juan Pierre was a puff of smoke.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
Juan Pierre was named Pope? I missed that.
Seems like a good choice. I hear he’s a better man than he is a ballplayer.
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Aug 17, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Craig got it, Two and a half men kid, Miranda Cosgrove
by Josie Becker on Aug 17, 2011 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Since Josie didn't give the amounts
the kid on the revamped Two and Half Men show made $250K per episode (22-23 per season) and Miranda Cosgrove makes an astonishing $180K per episode for iCarly
I always wondered how much the kids got on
Everybody Loves Raymond, I figured they still made over 7 figures for the life of the show.
iCarly has made 84 episodes. Girl rich, y’all.
by Josie Becker on Aug 17, 2011 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions
and she’s 18! College at any private school = done. Fantastic luxury car that will last twenty years=done.
by Josie Becker on Aug 17, 2011 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Well
I don’t think she made $180K at the start but she is not doing bad at all.
Just to compare – Charlie Sheen made $1.2M per episode in his last season on Two and Half Men. Hugh Laurie reportedly makes $400K per episode for House. Keifer Sutherland (who reportedly made $400K per 24 episode, is getting $125K per for his new role).
TV Guide reported Laurie at $700k, last wek, and Sutherland at $225,000
by Josie Becker on Aug 17, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
New role?
What show is he on?
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
“Two Dozen”
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Aug 17, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Do the kids know the song “Don’t touch me there”?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
is that a sequel
to “Can’t Touch This”?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 17, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Trequel to “Let Me Touch You For Awhile”
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
Why, GScott with the Alison Krauss reference. You reveal an unsuspected pussiness.
I mean, of course, I know it’s an Alison Krauss reference, because I am a pussy and everyone knows it. But you?
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Aug 17, 2011 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I enjoy me some Alison Krauss. Especially her work in O Brother Where Art Thou and with Union Station (I think that was their name)
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
She’s great, no doubt.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Aug 17, 2011 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions
The badass is Jerry Douglas, the dobro player, who I submit is as good at playing the dobro as anybody in the world is as good at anything.
I’m sure I have heard a dobro, that said, I have no inkling what a dobro is.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
As John Forster didn't write
And over on the dobro —
Who is that on the dobro?
Oh yeah, it’s the guy who drove me in from the airport
I forget his name, but he’s a monster, too.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Aug 17, 2011 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions
you’re about half my size both ways, careful
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
I have no doubt that you can take me down and make me regret any comment I might make. What are we fighting about?
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Aug 17, 2011 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t know, but your signature is amazing.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
oh, it was a self callback, no worries.
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
was waiting for Julio to chime in something about him slipping passed you.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
1. “U Can’t Touch This”
2. “Don’t Touch Me There”
3. “Please, C’mon I Asked U Nicely”
4. “911”
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Aug 17, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
5. Chico’s Bail Bonds
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Aug 17, 2011 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
too funny, easy rec
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 17, 2011 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I doubt she got paid that much at the beginning of the show
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
It's good
Her brother on the show is great.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
drake & Josh was so much better
so was her role on the show.
aww Keith. If you ever need someone to babysit, eat your food, and watch iCarly and Spongebob, I’m available
by Josie Becker on Aug 17, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
See ya on Saturday….I need you to watch her from 12-3 cdt.
I’ve got a fantasy football draft and cannot be disturbed….(unless you bring me beer)
:)
I only bring beer if you’re buying the bartender one
by Josie Becker on Aug 17, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Can we even get 1 run tonight?
I dunno, I always knew Grienke was better than last season because even if he was giving up like 5-6 runs, he was striking out tons and his BABIP during that span was pretty high anyway.
It would be funny if Grienke was gonna try to go for 10 innings no matter what cause…
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/18/sports/baseball/18pitcher.html?_r=2
ZACK KNOWS HIS STUFF
Trade for Granick…..they just might do it!
by keithc13 on Aug 17, 2011 1:58 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
It's unfair how amazing Roy Halladay is
He’s down to a 2.14 FIP.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Man the Phillies must have had to trade a great player to get someone that good.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Aug 17, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
:(
Realistically what would we have had to give up to get Doc back when he was traded?
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
what would have been the equivalent?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 17, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Something like McDonald, Withrow and Gordon.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Aug 17, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
But that’s not a great comparison since that offseason is probably our farm at its lowest point.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Aug 17, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Back then I would have been hesitant to do that
And I hate myself for even thinking that back then, lol. It would have been a pretty good haul though, back in 09.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
I am absolutely shocked to learn that search for Travis d’Arnud is a pain in the ass on minor league central.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Aug 17, 2011 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions
try Travis d’Arnaud
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
It’s the apostrophe that screws it up. No one types that when they’re searching.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Aug 17, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions
d’a gave me the result, but d’ did not
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
i lied, d’ did too
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
Riddle me this
typing out d’Arnaud or any number (>2) of characters leading up to his full last name (d’, d’A, d’Ar and so on) provides the list of the two D’Arnaud’s. However, if I copy/paste his last name in, it provides no results
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
You probably have a space at the end of it. That needs to get fixed immediately.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Aug 17, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
no spaces, no results. just trying to help.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
i found the problem, the apostrophe I had copy/pasted was an irregular character.
d’Arnaud as opposed to d’Arnaud
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
Of course :). Well you got me to fix a bug anyway so thanks.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Aug 17, 2011 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions
oh I fucking hate that so
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
don't you just ignore symbols like every other search engine on the planet?
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
No, I just escape them. He’s in the database as Travis d’Arnuad and right now the search is just an SQL Like.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Aug 17, 2011 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I would assume that the reasoning is he has very little chance of knocking Kemp in, but Kemp has a good chance to knock him in.
He does still get on base, just not hitting with any power.
to me it’s “this way they pitch to Dre to avoid facing Kemp with runners on base” instead of “oh look, Dre is on deck, I’d rather face him than Kemp /walk” but Kemp has been pitched to with first base open and Aaron Miles/James Loney on deck many times this year, so I’m not sure it’s playing out as intended. Instead, teams are pitching Dre tougher.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
Highest OBP on the team (non-Kemp division.) Would make sense to have the highest OBP man hit right before the highest SLG man.
by Michael White on Aug 17, 2011 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I mean they pitch to him anyways
but I think this everytime I see MIles behind him. I just want some form of reasonable protection behind him. Ethier is reasonable.
And based on how many runs we are scoring it is working to perfection.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Cue Bill Murray.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Aug 17, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions
has more to do with positions 5-2 being gimme outs.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
I disagree, Rivera has been money in the month he’s been here. Can’t say a bad word about him as of yet.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
wait till next year
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 17, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions
No one's talking next year ;)
If and when he gets a contract from the Dodgers he will Jay Gibbons/Ronny Belliard us.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
I'd prefer if he Reggie Smith'ed us
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
We could put Velez in the 3 hole and see how that works out.
by Michael White on Aug 17, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I wish someone would stick a bat in Eugneio’s 3 hole
by keithc13 on Aug 17, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
We could play Rivera and see how that works out. Or since we don’t want to play him every game we could call up Sands and see how that works out.
Or we could do it the Ned/Donny way and simply let the smurph bat 5th.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
JER-RY! JER-RY! JER-RY!
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 17, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions
If I see Miles hitting 1, 2, or 5 any time soon I might have to surpress the urge to kill
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
uhhhh
did you see today’s line up?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 17, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Bob would never commit patricide. If anything it’ll be a few pigeons shot with BBs
by Josie Becker on Aug 17, 2011 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions
BobbieDown
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
Tonight on TBLA News
Bobert shoots Tripon with 50 BBs to the liver after Josie uses his real name on the site
by Josie Becker on Aug 17, 2011 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions
:o
I was guarding that fact with all I had. It was almost as big a secret as Iron Man hiding the fact he was Tony Stark!
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Iron Man doesn’t hide Tony Stark, Tony Stark hides Iron Man, nerd.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
:(
Ok, how about:
I hide my real identity as well as Superman does!
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Also
I disturbs me they have a name for this. I’m safe from that standpoint, do they have a name for a brother killing another brother besided he Cained it?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Josie Becker on Aug 17, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions
is this a question or an answer or a questionable answer?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
That’s the answer – that’s what bros killing bros is called.
I’d have to think that sis on sis violence is something like sororicide or something like that.
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
you’re right, I couldn’t remember if Sorority was Latin or Greek
by Josie Becker on Aug 17, 2011 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I only need to fear fraticide. Unless they have a name for nieces/nephews killing Uncles
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
It’s not surprising there’s a word. The most famous play in the English language is aboutg a nephew killing his uncle. Well, dithering about it, but you know what I mean.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Aug 17, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions
I was told last night we have about 1/3 the English vocabulary as 100 years ago, so I’m not sure there’s really a word for anything.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
true story: Every year we go on, it’s the Old English Germanic words we lose, due to big bad foreign words
by Josie Becker on Aug 17, 2011 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Must...kill...dr pepper haters...
If only I could find one.
If not I’ll settle for idiot MLB managers.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
(obiwanfinalwords.mp3)
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 17, 2011 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions
YOU WERE MY BROTHER, ANAKIN! I LOVED YOU!
oh wait no
IF YOU STRIKE ME DOWN, I WILL BECOME MORE POWERFUL THAN YOU CAN IMAGINE
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
lol
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 17, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Honestly I thought the first line, hahah
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
You can get it for free if you sign up for Direct TV.
I sent an email bitching about it last week as I got nothing to sign up about 4 years ago.
I was told I could get it at a discount.
fuckers
don’t be that guy Keith. Companies are allowed to run promotions to attract new business
by Josie Becker on Aug 17, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Keith is the reason why I left Time Warner Cable
People like him calling in with stupid complains, lol. I’m glad he emailed it though, much better! :)
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Complaints*
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Oh Keithc!
If I ever got you on the phone at TWC i’d have enjoyed it I’m sure, lol.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
dadgum?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 17, 2011 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
i assume that the improved Raiders will be on channel 2 much more often this year. no need to pay for that.
not with the Chargers contractually obligated to be shown on CBS
by Josie Becker on Aug 17, 2011 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Risky gamble. The local market belongs to San Diego which is also AFC (therefore also on CBS.)
by Michael White on Aug 17, 2011 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions
The only time Raider games can make it to CBS in LA is when the Chargers have an off week
by Josie Becker on Aug 17, 2011 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Chargers are on FOX a maximum of 2 times per year.
by Michael White on Aug 17, 2011 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions
my quick study of both schedules says that they only play
at the same time on the same channel 3 times not including the 2 times they play each other.
Hopefully those times they play at different times aren’t during FOX doubleheader weeks.
by Michael White on Aug 17, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
YOU said Channel 2, not me, captain changes the rules
by Josie Becker on Aug 17, 2011 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions
YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES
YES
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.
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fuck thats a lot of money
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
like $20 per game of your favorite team.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
they have at least one nationally televised game I think
so more!
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Just back from the cheese shop
Picked up some Hooligan, which is very good
And Fourme d’Ambert, which I recommend to all y’all who like Stilton
And some Jean d’Alos Comte.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
No.
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by Humma Kavula on Aug 17, 2011 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I tried searching for a few of those cheeses
On Minor League Central, and none came up
by Eric Stephen on Aug 17, 2011 2:36 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
check your apostrophes
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
Right, it’s d’Alos, as opposed to d’Alos
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Aug 17, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Those cheeses are all major league, son.
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Aug 17, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Writing an "About Me" is difficult
so is writing a fun class description to entice new clients to try your weird and exotic fitness class.
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
Do you want to get super swole?
Do you also move pianos?
Try Zumba!
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Aug 17, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Thought you already started the class and it was full?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I did the demos and they were successful
my first REAL class happens Thursday night but they want stuff for the website.
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
All “About Me” entries should be fictional.
I would start yours with something like, “Raised by wolves from the age of three…” and end it with “Madeleine enjoys humpback whale riding, phrenology, and cheese.”
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Aug 17, 2011 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Madeline is aware that no one will proofread this.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Aug 17, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
who am i?
you sure you want to know?
/shouldbethefirsttwolines
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 17, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Nitro still looks like a Roman Patrician after an orgiastic explosion in that photo
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
Pujols is up to a .385 wOBA
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=1177&position=1B
It just amazes me how great he actually is. Up to 3.9 WAR as well.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Is this guy a Dodger?
Otherwise I don’t need daily updates of his stats.
by Michael White on Aug 17, 2011 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I appreciate great baseball. Sue me.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Don’t fret, Michael is working on something he’s going to publish this week and he’s probably obsessing about the fact he’s lost 1/3 of the English language to work with.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
It was going to be about Billingsley. I didn’t get to it today.
by Michael White on Aug 17, 2011 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Laugh if you must, but I wrote the shit out the game previews on Friday and Saturday last weekend.
by Michael White on Aug 17, 2011 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions
You did, and the recap could not be topped.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
called it!
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
I was close to posting something saying
How great is Matt Kemp?
But it’s been talked to death in here as well it would have turned into we can sign him long term and how McCourt is an asshole.
That’s just a guess, anyway.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Yeah
we much rather see the daily numbers of Smurph one, Smurf two, and Smurv three
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
That actually sounds like something funny in a dark way
Perhaps I’ll give it a look.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
smurf that
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 17, 2011 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions
He’s like Matt Kemp light.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Aug 17, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions
A phrase I never thought I’d hear in any year.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Van Slyke ended up with four hits today, double, triple, two singles. It also appears he’s back in LF with Galvez starting at 1st.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
versitility!
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 17, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Matt Kemp has the second highest differential in fWAR from last year to this year, with 4.4WAR. Leader is at 5.1WAR.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
nope.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
berkman not in the top 16
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
Kotchman was 5th
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/an-early-look-at-comeback-player-of-the-year/
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
Then the whole thing is complete and utter horseshit
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Berkman in the outfield, I can see it.
Jacoby?
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Aug 17, 2011 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions
This guy was -0.1fWAR last year, 5.0 this year.
And berkman had a 2.1 fWAR last year.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
Andre Ethier.
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by Humma Kavula on Aug 17, 2011 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Does f WAR
stand for Fucking WAR because that is what I think whenever I see it.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
fWAR is fangraphs WAR, bWAR is B-R WAR
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
How quaint
Guess what tblaWAR is?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Aug 17, 2011 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
when Joey Joe shows up?
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by Pure Azure on Aug 17, 2011 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
tblaWAR is what happens any time you tell somebody to GFY
…which I really thought you were gonna lay on Joey yesterday
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by Humma Kavula on Aug 17, 2011 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I was extremely confused by some of the stuff I read yesterday
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
That would not have accomplished anything. Joey just went off the deep end and had to be pulled back to reality. I was not a Joey Joe fan but I do believe he adds to the betterment of TBLA discourse when he’s not nutt sack crazy.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Joey Joe was right once
so now Phil thinks he needs to be here forever
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
right about something that should never have happened, and now the guy has TJ. Not a direct correlation to that one game, but maybe from jumping from no innings to 100 innings just like he jumped from no pitches to 100.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
there’s a few lists, but at this point I think he likes the attention and is just trolling people for rage fits.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
he is really good at it though
so he deserves some credit
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Ricky Romero is better than Troy Tulowitski I mean how do you even come up with that.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Aug 17, 2011 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I defended the guy
because I thought he brought up legitimate baseball arguments a good deal of the time, and everybody else just sounded like an echo chamber when they thought this team had a chance with such veteran fringe. I might have missed something offensive he said earlier in the year cos I wasn’t active here.
Last night what he did was indefensible. He had an agenda and lashed out at a perfectly civil commenter. It was nutso.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
Hate to ask, but what happened last night?
by Michael White on Aug 17, 2011 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions
called bhsportsguy a name
because he thought bh was being racist against whiteys.
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
he went after BH again? what thread was this in?
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
as someone who is overly sensitive to race issues
I have no idea how that happened
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
Just so happens that some HOF who may not belong but had long enduring careers all happened to be whitey’s and Joey Joe thought BH was headed in that direction when he listed them in asking me if Thome was part of that group.
I didn’t have a problem with Joey Joe leaping to that conclusion as I think someone could, I just had a problem with the name calling. Once it was explained he said “my bad” which I guess was an apology but I’d rather have seen I’m sorry but maybe generational “my bad” works the same.
Eric was around, if he felt it was ban worthy he could have done so. I didn’t and I’m sure Craig would not have wanted him banned for a misunderstanding.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I still don’t understand how that question could be construed as racist. It requires an incredible intuitive leap, especially for a question that gets a lot of play on TBLA (i.e., “Is so-and-so going to the HOF”). Since one of the players in question got into the Hall recently with the support of so-called “new” statistics, I don’t see the connection of race as clearly as I do that of “Thome isn’t a typical HOFer, but homie has 600 HRs so now what?”
Again, that’s just me. I didn’t get the leap, but if others did, then ok.
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
No, only Joey Joe did. Yes it was quite a leap.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
phil -
it was the polio comment. I thought bhsportsguy was trying to suggest he was getting too much credit for not even being that great of player…and when he listed 3 other white dudes…i figured that was the direction he was going.
Its just the Larry Bird argument for baseball. He said he didnt mean it that way so i said my bad.
I shouldnt have used name calling though. A simple “thats stupid” would have sufficed.
My Bad
I think that phrase is a piss poor attempt to take responcabilty for ones questionable words or deeds.
and then saying
that someone is being passive aggressive about it in the next comment…yeah.
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
or when your 18 year old brother eats your ice cream. “Oh, my bad.” /goes back to playing FIFA
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
So when you run over the neighbors cat on purpose “my bad” doesn’t cut it?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
The neighbor should apologize for dirtying your tires.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 17, 2011 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Three scoops of Ben and Jerry’s Mint Chocolate Cookie I’ll never get back. Though he did buy a whole new case of Pacificos for us after drinking a couple the other day.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
Her 18-year-old bought beer? How did that happen? Did he “hey mister” it?
by Julio Nievas on Aug 17, 2011 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I’d be pretty pissed. So pissed I’d probably set Maddz up in her own place so that never happens again.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
you’re about half her size both ways, careful
by Julio Nievas on Aug 17, 2011 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I once had a friend try to convince me the phrase was “my back,” which resulted in 20 minutes of heated debate.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 17, 2011 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions
which ended in “my bad”
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
by G.Scott on Aug 17, 2011 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I say it a lot
But at least I know when to say I’m sorry.
by Julio Nievas on Aug 17, 2011 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m selling
dead to me
If G Scott was pitching, I’d encourage him to drill him in the ear hole
by Hollywood Joe on Aug 17, 2011 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I appreciate you asking, now I don’t have to and I still get to learn
by Hollywood Joe on Aug 17, 2011 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I have beaten the “blow up the team” drum for two goddam years and nobody, to my knowledge, has ever thought that I should be GFY’d. (Except me.)
I do not think Joey is being singled out for his opinions.
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by Humma Kavula on Aug 17, 2011 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions
I like a spirited debate
but it just seems like sometimes he doesn’t know the boundaries, or doesn’t care. Regardless, I don’t abide personal insults unless they’re good-natured. A lot of people here know each other, I am far away and haven’t had the chance to socialize, but you interact in a community within certain guidelines and rules of decorum.
If you pull shit like that last nite, you lose all credibility. I think political tension spilled over.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
You’re right.
I dont really care.
Its the internet. Its isnt real life to me.
To those that have met each other, it probably is and if i met people personally i’d probably censor myself. But to me the enjoyment messageboards is that you can not be censored, cut loose, and no one takes it personally.
It will be lonely, see how Maddz has teamed back up with Josie to perk this place up
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
each on their own is out of control but together they have functional harmony.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
And get off our lawn.
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by Humma Kavula on Aug 17, 2011 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions
but you paid me to mow it. or at least you said you would, pay up old man!
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 17, 2011 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions
just wait
until you have a fridge to move
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 17, 2011 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions
That's why I have a job
So I can pay a dude to do it for me.
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by Humma Kavula on Aug 17, 2011 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions
WE DON’T HAVE JOBS BECAUSE Y’ALL BROKE THE SYSTEM!
by Josie Becker on Aug 17, 2011 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions
By Y'all
do you mean Hebrews, PR writers, Trolls, Cheese Lovers, TBLA members?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I mean the collective body of the AARP TBLA Chapter : p
by Josie Becker on Aug 17, 2011 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions
What sucks is that I just my classification in five abject categories just got reduced to one even more abject category.
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by Humma Kavula on Aug 17, 2011 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t think Hebrew of Cheese Lover is abject : p
by Josie Becker on Aug 17, 2011 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions
this entire thread has been an abject failure
by Josie Becker on Aug 17, 2011 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions
I hope it wasn’t at Truxtons [inside joke]
by Josie Becker on Aug 17, 2011 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Fuxtons
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
“We don’t have stem glasses, because we like disappointing Josies”
Disappointing Josies would be a good band name
by Josie Becker on Aug 17, 2011 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s not funny unless G is here to imitate the face I made
by Josie Becker on Aug 17, 2011 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions
food is okay, but really, Josie and I will have to re-enact at tblaSoftball.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
Oh goodie, I get to see it for the 15th time
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
I know! It’s still funny!
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
honey, what have we said about your jokes?
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
just because you use “honey” doesn’t make it ok to say it
by Hollywood Joe on Aug 17, 2011 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I have a strategy. I keep telling them over and over again until they’re funny.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
My 35 year old theory is that girlfriends/wife’s do not think the people they love are as funny as they think they are.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
This is of course true.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
Always. Skirts try to be funny by making us look unfunny.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
my approach
is more lassiez faire than you realize
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
I don’t think that place exists
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
by mleadman on Aug 17, 2011 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I have a job
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
me too!
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 17, 2011 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Then why are you fucking moving fridges?
If there’s one thing I’ve learned, it is the magic question: “Can I pay somebody to do this for me?”
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by Humma Kavula on Aug 17, 2011 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions
time is not money
time is more valuable then money
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Right. So is being a lazy fuck. Being a lazy fuck is more valuable than money.
When in doubt, pay somebody.
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Aug 17, 2011 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Being a cheap lazy fuck however has created the meercat syndrome.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Oh, I know that one. It’s when nuclear fallout from a meltdown causes birth defects and we call turn into meercats, right?
I think that’s a myth.
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by Humma Kavula on Aug 17, 2011 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions
That's how I feel about mowing fucking lawns
If I had my way before I’d have paved over the front and back lawn, but the realistic solution was to do a shitty job for years and have someone else pay for pros to do it.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
My real first money earning endeavor was the old mowing lawns and washing car for our neighbors. Soon i did the entire block. Then we moved and I lost all ambition. LA does that to a boy.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Outside of "working"
for my father mowing customer’s lawns and sawing branches, my first job was stocking liquor in a nearby store.
It's not necessarily a really hard thing to do
Mowing lawns, but it’s just so tiresome and I hate hit, lol.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
it sucks when they expect you to pick the weeds
ugh
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Shaddup. Builds character. You live here, you live by my rules!
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by Humma Kavula on Aug 17, 2011 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions
my mom kind of laid that one on me earlier this summer. I was like, “…oh.”
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
My mom laid it on me a while back when I was visiting. So I stopped calling or visiting. Now she doesn’t say anything anymore.
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Aug 17, 2011 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Just remind how that when you get to take care of her, she will have to live by your rules:)
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
why, so it smells like mothballs again?
by Hollywood Joe on Aug 17, 2011 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow. While Steiner couldn’t even call the triple play, the Boston Globe photographer caught all three parts of the Red Sox’ triple play Tuesday night.
someone get the “that’s racist” thing up here
by Hollywood Joe on Aug 17, 2011 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions
sorry, that shouldn’t have been at you, just a general I’m sick of having to care about teams in 50 different leagues
by Josie Becker on Aug 17, 2011 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions
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You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
great, my nephew is calling me a racist
by Josie Becker on Aug 17, 2011 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions
name dropper
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
it must be boring to watch them constantly play each other. It’s like nobody else will play against them.
they could just barnstorm around the world together and I think their “fan bases” would be just as happy
by Josie Becker on Aug 17, 2011 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Ok, how about a player I don't talk about much if ever
Michael Young. On pace for about 210 hits this year, passed 2000 hits a couple weeks ago or so, and might have an outside shot at 3000 hits. Obviously his numbers are affected because of the park he’s played in, but it’s still impressive the number of hits he gets yearly with little speed.
Btw, if he gets 200 hits this year, that would be the 6th time.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
basically he is andre ethier
we shoulda traded for him
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
how many times has Andre hat 200 hits?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
OPS+ of 131 is pretty much the same as Andre
was what I was going for
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
man ethier is down to 123?
bummer
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
slumps suck
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 17, 2011 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions
He’s streaky. He’ll get hot later, or he won’t. Doesn’t matter.
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by Humma Kavula on Aug 17, 2011 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Humma's Law right?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 17, 2011 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Yup
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by Humma Kavula on Aug 17, 2011 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions
so close
no matter how far
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 17, 2011 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions
No. Humma’s Law is:
Anything can happen, but it won’t.
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by Humma Kavula on Aug 17, 2011 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions
In your case it did. Somehow you found someone to marry you and want to propagate. If that is not the definition of Anything Can Happen, I’ll be a hornswaggled cowpoke.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Every rule needs to be tested. And none of us knows what the future holds. Perhaps she will tire of being the hot chick married to the tiny, angry, drunken troll.
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Aug 17, 2011 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s maybe the best compliment I’ve received all day.
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by Humma Kavula on Aug 17, 2011 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions
And if it did
you wouldn’t recognize it
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Andre has done that for about 4 years
MY has done that a couple of times. Andre (normally) is a better and more powerful hitter, but if MY could put up a .290/.340/.430 line from 3rd base I’d be happy.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Didn’t you hear Michael, quit talking about other teams successful players while we have to watch the Smurfs every GD night. Do you want to be Bearfaced?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Cooking question
if I cook a casserole-esque dish at my house, is it kosher to warm it up in the oven somewhere else to serve?
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
is it french toast casserole?
if so yes, but only if its my house
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
nah, it will be a butternut squash thing.
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
Do you mean literally kosher, or do you mean “is that an OK thing to do?”
It’s an OK thing to do. No idea on the kashrut.
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by Humma Kavula on Aug 17, 2011 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions
it should be kashrut, as far as I know. But yes, I meant “is that an OK thing to do”. :)
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
yeah, I was going to do that. :)
The host does not, but he’s also a young engineering dude, so I think his understanding of oven is…conservative.
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
oh you totally should
my mother is convinced I hock loogies and use my hands to eat and while propping my feet up at the dining room table.
Of course, there was that one time I tossed bread rolls to different people at some social event
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
And yet your parents
by all accounts they raised at least 3 fine children (I say 3 because that is all I recall you mentioning)
I'm supposed to hate it
but being barefoot in the kitchen is relaxing
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
Does "explodes" equal 107 comments?
ESPNLA.com Angels columnist @markasaxon confronts Scioscia on pathetic catching situation, @HalosHeaven explodes. http://t.co/2etfdPm
If the comments all appear within a 1-minute range… Then yes
by Julio Nievas on Aug 17, 2011 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I honestly can’t believe that Halos Heaven hates Jeff Mathis.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Aug 17, 2011 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions
seriously though Scioscia's response WAS pathetic
and his need to play Mathis over anyone else is ridiculous.
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
I believe that Mike Scoscia knows catcher defense better than any of us do.
I also believe that Mike Scoscia is way more likely to overvalue catcher defense than any of us are.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Aug 17, 2011 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions
fine Mathis is the best defensive catcher they have
he is also one of the worst hitters of all time to get as many at bats as he is gotten. He might be worse then loney for crying out loud.
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
He absolutely is
.195/.258/.302
That’s not even better than Loney’s worst year. Which is so incredibly sad in so many ways!
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
ops+ in the 30s
jesus christo…
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
I assume he means compared to his position.
by Michael White on Aug 17, 2011 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions
don't want
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Heartbreaking news
Isotopes also playing a day game
DeJesus / Sands / Hoffman combined 0 – 14
Looks like Hoffman’s streak is over unless he gets another shot. 2 – 2 bottom of the 10th.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Isn’t he, like, older than I am?
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Aug 17, 2011 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions
He’s 24
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
Huh. That’s not terribly old for AA, is it? Where did I get the idea that he wasn’t a real prospect?
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Aug 17, 2011 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Josie needs a job… perhaps replace one Rockin’ with another?
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Aug 17, 2011 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions
I know who I’m calling Rockin’ Ron from now on.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
Video of Sands' HR from last night
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/multimedia/vpp.jsp?content_id=18068069
Batting stance has really changed. He’s closer to the plate and he’s holding the bat more vertically.
Sprain?
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
LOL
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=3448&position=C
How does Jeff Mathis have a job (I know, great managers…) with under a .200 career batting average, under .260 career OBP, and a .302 career slugging percentage….wow
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Mike Scoscia may be the only person who knows
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
If the Angels miss this year, will it be due entirely to carrying Mathis and Wells?
Meaning, will that one trade cost them the playoffs?
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Aug 17, 2011 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Imagine if they had Napoli
A guy slugging .592 right now…instead of the horrible line from mathis and somehow much better but still shitty Vernon Wells
Plus Rivera still! ;)
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
if they had given the money they will now be paying wells
to beltre…. Basically yes, this trade has cost them the division. They chose Mathis over Napoli and Wells over Beltre.
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
That’s amazing.
Is it a firing offense? I’d be seriously pissed if I were an Angels fan, but I don’t know if he should be fired for it or not.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Aug 17, 2011 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't knows Moreno knows any better at this point
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
I’d fire their GM before I’d fire Ned.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Oooh, is that how it works? I’d fire Theo Epstein, then fire Ned, then hire Theo.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Aug 17, 2011 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm surprised to find myself agreeing
he has just done unconscionably stupid things as of late
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Jennifer Aniston, to go.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Aug 17, 2011 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions
is that a california gyro?!
want
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
I've never seen it anywhere in California, please tell me where I can find it
I gorged on these in France
by Julio Nievas on Aug 17, 2011 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions
What, a gyro? Daphne’s are all over.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Aug 17, 2011 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions
“Hey, can I have a gyro and can you add fries in it?”
Yeah… seems simple enough
by Julio Nievas on Aug 17, 2011 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions
At Daphne’s the gyro comes with an order of fries. You may have to put the fries inside it yourself, but… yeah, it can get done.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Aug 17, 2011 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Not really great, I know. But easy. He asked for a gyro, I gave him a gyro in several convenient locations.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Aug 17, 2011 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions
If that is what I think that is (all I am seeing is the dreaded red x) then try Chiken Dijon. They do a Gyro,fry plate.
It’s a gyro with lamb, peppers and onions, and fries in it.
by Julio Nievas on Aug 17, 2011 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions
hah I don't know
theres a mexican place near me that has “california” burritos which is carne asada with french fires and quack and sour cream and stuff.
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
We got tohse in Pasadena too
at Tops
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Got a Gyro with fries from a truck outside Coachella. Finest gyro of my life.
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Aug 17, 2011 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Taste better when you’re hammered at 2 in the morning
by Julio Nievas on Aug 17, 2011 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions
What doesn't?
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Broccoli. Tastes like shit when you’re hammered.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Aug 17, 2011 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Ouzo
Lots of it
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
It’s like licorice & vodka.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Aug 17, 2011 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions
whenver someone says this
its always black licorice, so, meh.
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
me neither actually
But she’ll be in a Greek joint
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Another Godawful Greek drink
Retsina
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Might as well be
It’s wine that (at least to me) tastes like Kerosene
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
I think You Can’t Predict Baseball is one of my favorite baseball blogs these days:
- Juan Pierre home run.and
– off Ubaldo.
— This was a real home run. It went over the fence and everything.
—- Pierre has more homers this year than Joe Mauer.
—– The White Sox have five triples in this game. Five!
—— Juan Pierre doesn’t have one of them.
- Ivan Nova: 5.1 IP, 9 H, 7 R/ER, 1 BB, 2 K, W.
– Roy Halladay: 9 IP, 8 H, 3 R/ER, 1 BB, 14 K, L.
— Because Lyle Overbay had a big double off him to drive in two in the ninth. Overbay went 3-for-4 off Halladay, actually.
—- Halladay himself doubled.
This is why it is a great and maddening game. Thanks for the link, could end up a daily read.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Heh
I know it’s James Loney, but at one point he’d made five outs in two PAs. That’s INSANE.
by Michael White on Aug 17, 2011 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions
How many TJ surgeries can you have, in theory?
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
I would say having one in the first place would be terrible
but I agree with your point. :)
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
It doesn’t prevent someone from having the lowest ERA in franchise history.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 17, 2011 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions
At least three. Maximum is, well, how many ligaments do you have?
@andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Aug 17, 2011 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions
what’s more amazing to me is that you don’t really need those other ligaments?
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
you can keep having it for as long as there are dead people donating their elbow ligaments
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
I was going to say can’t they just take the ligaments from anyone?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
good points
I ask because everyone’s closet drinking buddy/hated nemesis Brian Wilson is getting his elbow checked out
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
ouch
see ya in 2013 brian
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
ironically, “ligament donor” does not
:D
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
by Maddz on Aug 17, 2011 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
In theory?
All of them
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Only ‘cause he’s white.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Aug 17, 2011 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
THAT’S RACIST
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
by Maddz on Aug 17, 2011 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Thome was the best hitter in the AL in 2002 and came 7th in MVP voting.
by Julio Nievas on Aug 17, 2011 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions
2nd in B-REF WAR
Behind the guy who finished 2nd in MVP voting, Alex Rodriguez.
Tejada (who won) was well behind both in WAR, but was on a team that won 50 or so games in a row.
by Michael White on Aug 17, 2011 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions
One guy plays shortstop, one is a DH.
The shortstop will always get the benefit of the doubt.
/Referring to ARod not Tejada
by Michael White on Aug 17, 2011 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Fangraphs has A-Rod over Thome by a ton
Fangraphs WAR:
Rodriguez: 10.0
Thome: 7.0
by Michael White on Aug 17, 2011 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions
This was also back when the SS position had some power guys, so era adjusted Rodriguez’s numbers are merely great as opposed to legendary. At the time there were other sluggers at SS like Tejada and Nomar.
by Michael White on Aug 17, 2011 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions
WAR leaders in 2002 per Fangraphs
Tejada looks like an ever worse MVP here.
by Michael White on Aug 17, 2011 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Its hard to believe Thome never did roids putting up those numbers
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
I’m saying Thome should be better than 7th place in the MVP voting, Michael. Sheesh!
by Julio Nievas on Aug 17, 2011 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions
I've always disliked how overrated tejada was that year
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Pretty Funny top four OPS+ in 2002
Bonds
Thome
Manny
Giles
with Manny having moved from the Indians to Boston
with Giles having moved from the Indians to the Pirates
Oh my Cleveland, oh my
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Thome was playing for the Phillies one year later.
Has anyone had to trade empending free agents or simply let them go more then the Indians when it comes to peak players.
Manny
Thome
Belle
CC
Lee
not to mention giving away the Sexsons, Giles, Philips of the world
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
They traded Lofton for grissom and Justice, so I’m not sure that counts as a sell, but wanted to look him up.
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
How they built the juggernaut was classic team building.
1st- Thome – draft
2nd – Baerga – stole him from the Padres
SS – Vizquel – stole him from the Mariners
C – Alomar – blockbuster deal
OF – Manny – draft
OF – Lofton – stole him
OF – Belle – I think the draft
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Joe Carter (sort of) cost the Padres both Alomar brothers, and Carlos Baerga
by Eric Stephen on Aug 17, 2011 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions
If the Diamondbacks can beat Doc and Lee back to back, that would be awesoke
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I repeat
Swesoke is in play tonight, people.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 17, 2011 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions
How odd
I was just going to ask for the best Buffalo Wings Sauce recipe
KCAL! FTMFW!
by robotmadeofnails on Aug 17, 2011 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Someone trying to recreate the original Pioneer Chicken Batter:
Pioneer Chicken recipe<<<<<<<<<< It took me 25 atempts but I think I nailed it . Chicken strips
recipe good for 2 chicken breast worth of meat..
1/2 cup flour
1/2 cup Krusteaz “original” pankake batter , {not the just add water one}
1/2 teaspoon onion powder
table spoon of paprika {which is were it gets the color}
Salt, well I use1 teaspoon
then cold water till you get a pancake batter consistancy…
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

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