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Clayton Kershaw Continues To Amaze, Dodgers Salvage One In Milwaukee

"I just wanted to tell you good luck, and that we're all counting on you."

Clayton Kershaw was his usual brilliant self on Thursday afternoon, helping the Dodgers avoid a sweep with a 5-1 win over the Brewers in the series finale at Miller Park. For the eighth time this season, Kershaw did not allow a run in a start. This time, he set the Brewers down for eight scoreless innings.

Kershaw also didn't walk a batter, but we have reached a point in his career that it shouldn't really be a surprise. Kershaw has walked two or fewer batters in 21 of 26 starts this season, and he is averaging 2.25 walks per nine innings this season, the second straight year he has improved by more than a walk per nine innings. Since the All-Star break, Kershaw is 6-1 with a 1.53 ERA in seven starts, with 11 walks and 52 strikeouts in 53 innings.

Kershaw had six strikeouts in Thursday's game, giving him 199 on the season, tops in the National League. With the win, Kershaw became the first Dodger to get his 15th win before September since Hideo Nomo in 2003.

Oh yeah, and the Dodgers scored five runs too. Rod Barajas opened the scoring with a solo home run in the second inning. Barajas has 11 home runs on the season, which is now second on the team.

In his first outing in six days, Javy Guerra allowed a run in the ninth. It was the first run allowed by Guerra since July 6, a span of 12 games.

The Dodgers head to Colorado for a weekend series beginning Friday night, with Hiroki Kuroda facing Jason Hammel in the opener.

WP - Clayton Kershaw (15-5): 8 IP, 5 hits, 6 strikeouts

LP - Marco Estrada (3-8): 5 IP, 3 hits, 1 run, 2 walks, 5 strikeouts

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So apparently the Twins are playing Joe Mauer in right field because their entire bench is hurt. But, nobody has been put on the DL.

by Alex41592 on Aug 18, 2011 2:53 PM PDT reply actions  

The AL Central.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Aug 18, 2011 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

one dude missed a flight!

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.

by Maddz on Aug 18, 2011 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Clayton Kershaw

First 57 starts: 306.1 IP, 165 BB (4.85 BB/9), 317 K (9.31 K/9), 3.55 ERA
Last 52 starts: 357.1 IP, 103 BB (2.59 BB/9), 375 K (9.45 K/9), 2.57 ERA

by Eric Stephen on Aug 18, 2011 3:15 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

any reason for the split at 57?

by silverwidow on Aug 18, 2011 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was going to split it at near half (55/54 one way or another), but the 57th start was the stinker against Milwaukee last May 4 so I lumped it into “before.” :)

by Eric Stephen on Aug 18, 2011 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Please be joking. He will be here the next three years no matter what.

by silverwidow on Aug 18, 2011 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think they would do it

but if you want to start rebuilding, why not start with the best asset you have.

by bhsportsguy on Aug 18, 2011 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rec’d

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Aug 18, 2011 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

And then you have this team again.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Aug 18, 2011 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ethier

won’t get much. You don’t have any prospects anyone will trade for.

Like I said, it won’t happen but this is what Billy Beane with his pitchers. Maybe not when they had 3 years of control left but still if Ubaldo Jiminez can get dealt, who knows.

Seeing Kershaw in 2013 with no offense will not be fun.

by bhsportsguy on Aug 18, 2011 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Watching Kershaw is fun no matter what the offense does.

by VegasBlues on Aug 18, 2011 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed

I’d throw a cat in a blender just to watch Kershaw pitch

by Eric Stephen on Aug 18, 2011 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

to be fair

you’d throw a cat in a blender just cos

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.

by Maddz on Aug 18, 2011 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I would throw a cat in a blender just to be able to throw another cat in a blender.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 18, 2011 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

In a related story, if I offer you a homemade smoothie, caveat emptor.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 18, 2011 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

You’d throw a cat in a blender just to watch Ramon Ortiz pitch

by Michael White on Aug 18, 2011 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

A’s haven’t been good since he traded his pitchers.

by Michael White on Aug 18, 2011 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Trying to win without money is ultimately a Sisyphean task and the A’s will probably never be good again without dumb luck.

Rebuilding itself is ultimately pointless since the good teams got together and decided to never offer anything of value for good players so you end up turning Matt Kemp into Shelby Miller and you have to pretend you’re happy. But if you have money you can just go buy a bunch of players.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Aug 18, 2011 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

This sounds about right

So Tampa Bay falls in “dumb luck” category?

by Michael White on Aug 18, 2011 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

fine line between “best scouting department in the game” and “worst scouting department in the game”. Everything in between is luck with player development and injuries, etc.

"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully

by G.Scott on Aug 18, 2011 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

at least, IMO.

"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully

by G.Scott on Aug 18, 2011 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

mostly

you don’t get to be a MLB scout by not knowing the game. You get to be an MLB scout by knowing someone who doesn’t know the game :)

"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully

by G.Scott on Aug 18, 2011 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I buy that. Which is why I wouldn’t trade Kershaw for Matt Moore

by Michael White on Aug 18, 2011 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep, you have to somehow draft 7 or 8 very good players in a two or three year time span, then hope they never get hurt, and then you have to constantly trade your guys off for other people that may or may not pan out, hope they never get hurt….

Even though Tampa has shown their way better at this than everyone, they’re losing this race.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Aug 18, 2011 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

also convince the future best 3rd baseman in baseball

to sign a really shiitty contract

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Aug 18, 2011 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s having a really disappointing year.

by Michael White on Aug 18, 2011 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

injuries?

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Aug 18, 2011 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Very few people have been able to play so quickly after sustaining injuries from a helicopter fall. I’d say Longoria’s season has been amazing.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 18, 2011 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

he still has a war over 3

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Aug 18, 2011 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

If Kershaw is traded, I see no reason not to hunt Ned’s head

by Julio Nievas on Aug 18, 2011 3:38 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

It would take Matt Moore plus a bunch of other top guys. Otherwise no reason to do it.

by silverwidow on Aug 18, 2011 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure thats what BH is looking for here

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Aug 18, 2011 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Okay

But I’m saying Moore has to be in the trade specifically. I don’t want any other substitutes.

by silverwidow on Aug 18, 2011 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ha

see, the crack is beginning.

by bhsportsguy on Aug 18, 2011 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

BH threw in a little chaos.

by Alex41592 on Aug 18, 2011 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I could not be more bullish on Clayton Kershaw than I am these days.

The guys is a star right now.

by Michael White on Aug 18, 2011 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

mind linking ER for those time periods?

"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully

by G.Scott on Aug 18, 2011 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Start 57 was May 4, 2010 against the Brewers (7 runs, 4 outs)

by Eric Stephen on Aug 18, 2011 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

reason i ask

general rule of thumb for pitchers is that BB and ER over the course of a year almost always come out to be very similar.

"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully

by G.Scott on Aug 18, 2011 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

121 earned runs in first 57, 102 ER in last 52

by Eric Stephen on Aug 18, 2011 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

103:102 in the second 52 starts :)
165:121 isn’t far off, but not as close as I’d expect, but not far off.

"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully

by G.Scott on Aug 18, 2011 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

his control is the real story

its great to see him make such dramatic strides. GO KERSH!

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Aug 18, 2011 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

IP/start during that span

First 57: 5.37 IP/start
Last 52: 6.87 IP/start

by Eric Stephen on Aug 18, 2011 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's an insane turnaround

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 18, 2011 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

anyone want to hang out with me and

troll GScott on Sunday?

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.

by Maddz on Aug 18, 2011 3:20 PM PDT reply actions  

Shit.

"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully

by G.Scott on Aug 18, 2011 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m bored with doing it all by myself

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.

by Maddz on Aug 18, 2011 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wonder if Joe is in town.

"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully

by G.Scott on Aug 18, 2011 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yet

only good taste and meeting you allows me to pass these opportunities for a good snappy one-liner pass.

by bhsportsguy on Aug 18, 2011 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not really that mean to him WHILE he's pitching

just when he does dumb things

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.

by Maddz on Aug 18, 2011 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

most of the dumb things I do happen while I’m pitching. Craig was referring to not using a snappy one liner to refer to you being bored “doing it all by yourself”

"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully

by G.Scott on Aug 18, 2011 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh

well, he’s classy. i’m not

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.

by Maddz on Aug 18, 2011 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is

why Mrs. HJ per Joe has attended only 2 games in many many years of his playing baseball.

by bhsportsguy on Aug 18, 2011 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

GScott would be sad if I didn’t attend his games

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.

by Maddz on Aug 18, 2011 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

How many

books, balls of yarn, mobile devices do you bring with you.

by bhsportsguy on Aug 18, 2011 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Usually just my phone. But now I’m learning to keep score.

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.

by Maddz on Aug 18, 2011 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I could come

only if we can go to Pollo Inka afterwards.

by bhsportsguy on Aug 18, 2011 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

This sounds fun

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.

by Maddz on Aug 18, 2011 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Didn’t robotmadeofnails download a scorekeeping app?

by Eric Stephen on Aug 18, 2011 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

we can afterwards, for sure, but I want people to sit with me and tease GScott while he’s pitching. If he thinks too much, he hangs sliders. No one wants that.

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.

by Maddz on Aug 18, 2011 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh shit, he’s playing. That’s right. Where’s the game at?

by Julio Nievas on Aug 18, 2011 3:40 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

:D

Marine Ave Park, just west of Marine and Aviation. I believe he’s playing at 4:30.

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.

by Maddz on Aug 18, 2011 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

My phone says it’s by Hermosa Beach, which I’m down for. I will let you guys know tomorrow. May go to Vegas for work.

by Julio Nievas on Aug 18, 2011 3:47 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Spawn loves that park.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Aug 18, 2011 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

nice

I’ve played there, but it was while playing freshman baseball in high school

by Billyum on Aug 18, 2011 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah I played there in Juniors little league, so it was weird playing there again at first. Really nice field for a city park, helps that it stays locked up.

"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully

by G.Scott on Aug 18, 2011 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah, those manhattan beach kids are spoiled. when we have played them recently, we actually got to play on their varsity field, that they have field turf on. i much prefer grass, but it’s a pretty sick field

by Billyum on Aug 18, 2011 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

played there a few weeks ago. It’s hell to pitch on. Mound sucks and weak grounders speed on by infielders.

"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully

by G.Scott on Aug 18, 2011 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

that, and it makes the infield F-ing hot

"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully

by G.Scott on Aug 18, 2011 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

ah, didn’t think of the heat, we’ve played there in march, and it’s not hot

definitely a quicker infield, especially compared to the field our freshman team calls home

by Billyum on Aug 18, 2011 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

so what you're saying

is that you’re going to be there this Sunday to help me tease GScott?

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.

by Maddz on Aug 18, 2011 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

hahaha

can i play? then i could get a hit against him and really tease him

by Billyum on Aug 18, 2011 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

it’s the playoffs, or that wouldn’t be much of an issue.

"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully

by G.Scott on Aug 18, 2011 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

that’s probably for the best, i haven’t faced live pitching in a while (only do once a year, in our alumni game, and we got rained out this year), i should keep my confidence up after my 4/4 game in slow pitch last night

by Billyum on Aug 18, 2011 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wish our alumni game had gotten rained out. 4IP, 95 pitches, 15 hits, 10 runs, newfound motivation to not suck at baseball.

"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully

by G.Scott on Aug 18, 2011 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

ouch

where did you go? we never have any of our alumni throw more than 2 innings

by Billyum on Aug 18, 2011 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

CSU Dominguez Hills. This wans’t even the real alumni game, it was the Old Timers game. I got destroyed by guys who hadn’t played in at least a year and in some cases several years. After that, there was 0 chance I was playing in the alumni game.

"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully

by G.Scott on Aug 18, 2011 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

ah college

that makes more sense now. I was talking about high school

by Billyum on Aug 18, 2011 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh, no i’ve yet to play in a HS alumni game. date never works out.

"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully

by G.Scott on Aug 18, 2011 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Redondo Union HS, to answer your question

"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully

by G.Scott on Aug 18, 2011 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

cool

Torrance high here, what class were you?

by Billyum on Aug 18, 2011 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

2004

"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully

by G.Scott on Aug 18, 2011 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

nice

03 here, maybe we played each other. I remember my sr year we beat you guys and that turned our season around

by Billyum on Aug 18, 2011 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Isnt Marine

really Compton Ave.? But all those South Bay cities didn’t like the negative connotations

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Aug 18, 2011 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seems plausible.

"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully

by G.Scott on Aug 18, 2011 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

our team is sponsored by the Gasser Lounge in Redondo Beach. cheap drinks and Papa Guido’s pizza.

"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully

by G.Scott on Aug 18, 2011 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Great caption

I’m just glad there wasn’t a photo of Dodgers players standing in a line next to Kershaw holding baseball bats. And do any of the Dodgers speak jive?

by Xeifrank on Aug 18, 2011 3:22 PM PDT reply actions  

Billingsley speaks jive :)

by Eric Stephen on Aug 18, 2011 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I take any motherfucker’s money if he givin it away

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Aug 18, 2011 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Being able to play “QI” as a word is one of the biggest bullshit moves on Words With Friends

by Eric Stephen on Aug 18, 2011 3:46 PM PDT reply actions  

ZA is also amazing

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.

by Maddz on Aug 18, 2011 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

As in hey bros lets go order some za.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Aug 18, 2011 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

and thanks to your inspiration

I just played XI in my scrabble game.

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.

by Maddz on Aug 18, 2011 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Weird that WWF only allows you to play that 11 times.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 18, 2011 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

You can’t use that acronym or the Panda will sue you. :)

by silverwidow on Aug 18, 2011 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I played a 102-point JEED on a dude last week.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 18, 2011 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

162 – biogases
got lucky with the tiles

"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully

by G.Scott on Aug 18, 2011 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

V and X making life hard? wait for a spare hanging O and play VOX. Enjoy.

"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully

by G.Scott on Aug 18, 2011 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

got 40 points on one letter

taxa my ass

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.

by Maddz on Aug 18, 2011 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

honestly, who plays TAXA

"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully

by G.Scott on Aug 18, 2011 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Are you kidding me? QI rules. Wait until you can play the Q on a triple-letter score, with the Q going both ways. 60-something points, playing two tiles.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Aug 18, 2011 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don’t get me wrong, I love playing it. Best I have done with it is one Q creating two QI on a double-letter sqaure, good for 42 points.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 18, 2011 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm now on Words With Friends

and since I get reception in LA, this should be better than when I was playing in Nashville (Sorry, Humma)

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.

by Maddz on Aug 18, 2011 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

email me your username.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 18, 2011 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

All right, should I get Words With Friends?

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Aug 18, 2011 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Whatever happened to Borat? He was the shit five years ago. Rode off into obscurity?

by silverwidow on Aug 18, 2011 3:57 PM PDT reply actions  

Chillin with Austin Powers.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Aug 18, 2011 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Funny thing, Dude that plays Borat is making a movie called the Dictator and Mike Myres has been in talks to star in another Austin Powers.

by Grimjack on Aug 18, 2011 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

yes but he won't be playing borat again

most likely

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Aug 18, 2011 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think that he does not like to look back after Ali G

by Grimjack on Aug 18, 2011 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Actual tweet from Angels beat writer Lyle Spencer on Monday:

If my math is correct the 27 outs Jeff Mathis has a firm hand in creating are 9 times more valuable than 3 he gives up with bat.#angels

He got a shitstorm of complaints with that one, and hasn’t tweeted since, other than to reply to others with “you win” type tweets.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 18, 2011 3:57 PM PDT reply actions  

Apparently Conger needs to get a stronger grip

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Aug 18, 2011 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah, Conger has to be worth 243 outs per game to catch up to Mathis.

"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully

by G.Scott on Aug 18, 2011 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

the best part is the thinks mathis only gets out 3 times a game

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Aug 18, 2011 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

He likes a man

with a firm hand

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Aug 18, 2011 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Vernon Wells since the All-Star break: .154/.195/.274 in 30 games and 123 PA.

18 hits in 117 at-bats, with six walks

by Eric Stephen on Aug 18, 2011 4:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Since the July 1 Dodgers series:

Vernon Wells: 7HR .555 OPS
Andre Ethier: 3HR .695 OPS

Why HR aren’t everything.

"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully

by G.Scott on Aug 18, 2011 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

$21 million in each of the next three years.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 18, 2011 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

If Dre said “I’ll sign for $60 million over 4 years” do you do it? What about 60 over 5 years?

"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully

by G.Scott on Aug 18, 2011 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

not advocating for us to extend him, but wondering at what price locking him up makes financial and competitive sense.

"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully

by G.Scott on Aug 18, 2011 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think losing power all of a sudden is a huge warning sign.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Aug 18, 2011 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

yep, he’s #1 on my offseason trade list, even above Lilly, Uribe, Guerrier. With the stipulation that his bat gets replaced, obviously.

"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully

by G.Scott on Aug 18, 2011 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

generally speaking

what does the sudden lack of power mean?

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.

by Maddz on Aug 18, 2011 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

next time you ask me a question about food

my suggestion will be “cheeseburgers”

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.

by Maddz on Aug 18, 2011 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Especially in Greek Restaurants

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Aug 18, 2011 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I WANT A CHEESBURGER

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Aug 18, 2011 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

what’s with the johnny rockets references today?

"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully

by G.Scott on Aug 18, 2011 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you go to JR tomorrow, you can get a cheeseburger, fries and a coke for $5

by Josie Becker on Aug 18, 2011 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dodgers scored 5 runs!!

by Eric Stephen on Aug 18, 2011 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have a feeling that John Belushi reference went over a lot of people’s heads.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 18, 2011 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

never seen animal house

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Aug 18, 2011 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

its a SNL skit

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Aug 18, 2011 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cheeseburger! Cheeseburger!

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.

by Maddz on Aug 18, 2011 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

50 josie points

if you know what restaurant they are parodying in the skit

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Aug 18, 2011 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Little Ceasers

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Aug 18, 2011 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

ummm, no

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Aug 18, 2011 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes

did you look it up?

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Aug 18, 2011 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

nope. I assume the skit must have started at Second City

by Josie Becker on Aug 18, 2011 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have a friend in Second City now

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.

by Maddz on Aug 18, 2011 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Between this and Mr. Sriracha, you have the coolest friends.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 18, 2011 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I went to a show

last Saturday night. I have a friend in a improv group that plays regularly, we should go.

by bhsportsguy on Aug 18, 2011 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

billy Goat Tavern

is a horrible place, but everyone should go there once for the history. It’s where the Cubs curse started.

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Aug 18, 2011 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

the burger isn’t bad, from what I remember. I visited my brother at Notre Dame and we spent a day in Chicago

by Josie Becker on Aug 18, 2011 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

[record screech]

You’re brother went to Notre Dame?

It’s been real, yo.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 18, 2011 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

he went to UChicago, they visited Notre Dame to throw lightning at football jesus.

"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully

by G.Scott on Aug 18, 2011 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

USC Dad

Cal daughter, ND son. We’re a happy family.

by Josie Becker on Aug 18, 2011 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

hahahaha

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.

by Maddz on Aug 18, 2011 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I didn’t get in to any of those schools but that was just a dynamite drop in

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.

by Maddz on Aug 18, 2011 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

all those schools do is make you pretentious anyways

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Aug 18, 2011 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

your only saying that because your school isn’t as good as ours.

by Josie Becker on Aug 18, 2011 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

or becuase its not filled with homeless people

and also smells better

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Aug 18, 2011 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I almost replied “Petsi”

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Aug 18, 2011 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

the problem is you only said it once, really this is your fault

by Josie Becker on Aug 18, 2011 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Declining skills?

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Aug 18, 2011 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

could mean a lot of things, none of them good.
failure to adjust, slower bat, slower eye, less strength, etc. a lot of times it’s just not quite getting to pitches you used to get to, or teams realizing you can’t hit lefties and putting you in that position more.

"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully

by G.Scott on Aug 18, 2011 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

or that he can't hit sliders anymore for some reason

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Aug 18, 2011 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

not hitting sliders is usually a result of one of the things listed

"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully

by G.Scott on Aug 18, 2011 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

blah blah blah

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Aug 18, 2011 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

The real answer is always

Rhianna

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Aug 18, 2011 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

even for Dre?

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.

by Maddz on Aug 18, 2011 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

He misses chillin with Rhianna.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Aug 18, 2011 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think we should extend him but not before Kemp. He is still a good hitter but I wouldn’t trade him unless it allowed us to get a prospect that was major league ready at 2B/3B and we use the money we save to go after a free agent.

by dodgers4life on Aug 18, 2011 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

but hey they ddin't have to give beltre 96 million!

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Aug 18, 2011 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Angels have $84.95 million committed to eight players in 2012, and that’s before considering arbitration contracts for Weaver, Kendrick, Aybar, Callaspo, and Morales (some of those infielders could get traded of course).

The good news is that with a top three of Weaver/Haren/Santana you are going to have a strong base, but I think they are kind of fucked everywhere else. It is possible that their two best outfielders next year (on hitting alone) will be Trout and Bourjos, and there is as of now just one spot available for them (Abreu, Wells, and Hunter all signed for next year, if not longer).

I think they have to consider outright releasing Wells this winter, unless they can get a haul for Bourjos and one or two of the infielders in some sort of package deal.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 18, 2011 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Isn't Abreau just about done

skill wise? Maybe release him before Wells?

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Aug 18, 2011 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

he is the better player right now

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Aug 18, 2011 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Even as a corpse Abreu has a .364 OBP. But you are right, his release is easier to stomach at one year, $9 million instead of 3/$63m.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 18, 2011 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think they could trade him and get some salary relief

people will still want that OBP in their lineup, just not at 12 million.

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Aug 18, 2011 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it’s an option. And one they should consider of course.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 18, 2011 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

#blamereagins

not sure how you can put that wack ass outfield at the feet of ‘Sosh’.. did he demand Wells be brought in? did he insist on giving Abreu that extra option year?

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Aug 18, 2011 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

there are plenty of people at halosheaven

that think reagins is a figure head. Sosh certainly seemed to want to be rid of Napoli.

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Aug 18, 2011 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

definitely agree on the catcher situation

but that outfield.. sweet christ.. and their infield is no picnic either.

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Aug 18, 2011 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

they are solid at 2nd/3rd/SS

Trumbo is ok, but he needs to get that OBP up.

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Aug 18, 2011 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm in the camp

that believes Mikey makes all the real decisions

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Aug 18, 2011 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I might have to write about this tomorrow or something. This offseason will be fascinating for both LA teams.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 18, 2011 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

A lot of folks

believe Mike has a lot of input since Stoneman left.

by bhsportsguy on Aug 18, 2011 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Man releasing Wells after

releasing Gary Mathews Jr. and Kazmir.

by bhsportsguy on Aug 18, 2011 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s a lot of bullets to bite.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 18, 2011 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

This has to be so much more frustrating for Angel fans than the Pierre/Jones thing was for Dodger fans

In the end, Torre saw the light and buried Pierre and Jones on the depth chart, and the fans/bloggers got the satisfaction of being right. With Angel fans, they were right all along with Mathis/Napoli but there’s no pay off at the end.

by Michael White on Aug 18, 2011 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's the Scoscia is God syndrome

Spencer has it big time. He’s untouchable. Media is blaming this season solely on Regins now.

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Aug 18, 2011 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

torre burried those turds pretty damn quick

he snapped pierre’s consecutive games streak on day 1 and I loved him for it.

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Aug 18, 2011 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

And I’m not even being fair to Torre. He liked Ethier from the start and didn’t give a shit about Pierre and his PVL’ness.

by Michael White on Aug 18, 2011 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Toss in Wells

who I think Halos Heaven folks despise more than Dodger fans could despise Jones or Pierre and I think you have the reasons why some would fire Tony Reagins before Ned. (I said some).

by bhsportsguy on Aug 18, 2011 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Contract the Angels

combine rotations and lineups, lease out Angels Stadium to a church and the X Games

"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully

by G.Scott on Aug 18, 2011 4:34 PM PDT reply actions  

Bourjos, Abreu, Kemp, Kendrick, Morales, Conger, Uribe, Gordon

Kershaw, Weaver, Haren, Santana, Billingsley

"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully

by G.Scott on Aug 18, 2011 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

The fuck is Uribe doing in there?

Aybar and Izturis AND Callaspo are all better then him.

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Aug 18, 2011 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Otherwise there are only 4 dodgers represented :)

"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully

by G.Scott on Aug 18, 2011 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

our IF sucks

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Aug 18, 2011 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

i was gonna put Bourjos and Dee up top for fun, but realized it made less sense.

"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully

by G.Scott on Aug 18, 2011 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bourjous shouldn't really lead off either

he has less OBP then you would think, and less power.

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Aug 18, 2011 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

whats sad

is that they still get treated by the media like their shit dont stink because their owner lowered the price of beer and they went to the world series that one time..

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Aug 18, 2011 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

or because they went to the playoffs a bunch of times in the last decade and

to the ALCS multiple times AND won a WS. Its like extended success gets you a pass or something.

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Aug 18, 2011 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

and yeah

Moreno > McCourt. Is there any real doubt?

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Aug 18, 2011 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just get all mad when LA people turn their backs on the dodgers to hop on the angels bandwagon

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Aug 18, 2011 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

nolander here is a local Angels fan

"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully

by G.Scott on Aug 18, 2011 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think it’s turning your back. If your favorite hamburger joint killed a roach right in front you, you might go to another joint

by Josie Becker on Aug 18, 2011 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

this instance happened before mccourt turned into the great satan. its basically regarding me and my friends dads hopping on the angels bandwagon back in 2006-2007.

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Aug 18, 2011 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

before the divorce he was just satan

most fans never liked mccourt

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Aug 18, 2011 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because of animal cruelty?

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Aug 18, 2011 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Moreno has

one more playoff appearance than McCourt, same number of League Championship Series appearances (2). Disney owned the Angels when they won in 2002.

by bhsportsguy on Aug 18, 2011 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I always get that mixed up

he gets credit for never trotting out a team as bad as the 2005 dodgers though

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Aug 18, 2011 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

They also missed the playoffs one year

while winning 89 games. Lets be realistic, they have been the overall better team since he has been owner

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Aug 18, 2011 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Will be two years after this season

but I hear you

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Aug 18, 2011 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

and Now I see I didn’t read your comment thoroughly enough

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Aug 18, 2011 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Logan Morrison, finding time to kill riding the buses in the bushes, finding awesome videos like these

by Eric Stephen on Aug 18, 2011 4:37 PM PDT reply actions  

owwwwww

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.

by Maddz on Aug 18, 2011 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

he's pretty funny
Just went through security at FLL. Forgot to take my belt off. As reward I was given a Deep Tissue massage by Bob from TSA

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.

by Maddz on Aug 18, 2011 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I went from Billings to SLC to LAX without showing my ID. I love TSA

by NotJoeTorre on Aug 18, 2011 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I knew when the video was called “best head first slide ever” and it was a thumbnail of a guy lying there dead it was gonna be good.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Aug 18, 2011 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Klitschko couldn't remember her name anymore

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Aug 18, 2011 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

What's Joe Mauer

doing in catcher’s gear on the sidebar there

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Aug 18, 2011 5:09 PM PDT reply actions  

7 benefits, 7 positions, 1 bottle.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 18, 2011 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is that a new skanky reality show?

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by underdog on Aug 18, 2011 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

So the Royals found somebody who actually likes being a Royal and they give him $13.5 million? Is that the going rate for mascots?

Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.

by Pure Azure on Aug 18, 2011 5:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Best headline ever

Foot Heads Arms Body

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Aug 18, 2011 5:16 PM PDT reply actions  

I will remind you

again that Vegas takes bets on pre-season football games.

by bhsportsguy on Aug 18, 2011 5:19 PM PDT reply actions  

I never thought to check, but I assume they do for spring training baseball as well?

by Eric Stephen on Aug 18, 2011 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mike Singletary was undefeated last year.

by kinbote on Aug 18, 2011 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Only BH or Eric could suggest that trading Kershaw might be the right move and not get a bazillion GFY’s thrown at him. BH might be right. Only the Braves or Rays would have what it would take to make it worthwhile. He’s a young arm with alot of mileage already on it.

Since 1960, aged 23 and under list of players with at least 600 IP and 600 K’s:

                                                                        
Player SO IP From To Age BB ERA ERA+ HR OPS
Bert Blyleven 1094 1335.2 1970 1974 19-23 319 2.74 134 90 .631
Dwight Gooden 1067 1172.2 1984 1988 19-23 332 2.62 135 56 .586
Frank Tanana 937 1082.0 1973 1977 19-23 292 2.69 131 93 .626
Larry Dierker 874 1250.1 1964 1970 17-23 353 3.19 108 101 .654
Sam McDowell 865 799.2 1961 1966 18-23 453 3.08 116 44 .610
Fernando Valenzuela 824 1013.0 1980 1984 19-23 354 3.01 117 54 .624
Felix Hernandez 810 905.0 2005 2009 19-23 287 3.45 125 80 .685
Gary Nolan 727 980.2 1967 1971 19-23 306 2.98 123 76 .631
Dennis Eckersley 705 901.2 1975 1978 20-23 293 3.15 123 90 .655
Catfish Hunter 703 1050.1 1965 1969 19-23 348 3.44 94 117 .672
Clayton Kershaw 690 658.2 2008 2011 20-23 270 3.05 128 44 .621
Denny McLain 637 840.2 1963 1967 19-23 292 3.57 97 120 .679
Dave Boswell 630 711.1 1964 1968 19-23 317 3.30 104 76 .625
Vida Blue 629 807.1 1969 1973 19-23 271 2.74 122 69 .597
Jeremy Bonderman 623 749.0 2003 2006 20-23 252 4.72 93 86 .757
Don Gullett 615 901.1 1970 1974 19-23 308 3.15 110 79 .650
CC Sabathia 600 776.0 2001 2004 20-23 321 4.12 107 75 .718

Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Play Index Tool Used
Generated 8/18/2011.

Only King Feliz, Bonderman, and CC are contemporaries.

Clayton does not really have any historical comps. No lefthander had his K rate and control at his age other then Tanana and he can’t count because the stupid Angels thought he had a bionic arm and Clayton does not have close to the wear and tear Tanana had by age 23. Clayton could be one of the all time greats, so even though he’s a pitcher and could blow out tomorrow, I think you roll with him and hope you can rebuild around him.

If Dave Cameron had a real title writer he might title his next column - Is Clayton Kershaw the greatest young Left Hander since baseball moved West?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 18, 2011 5:23 PM PDT reply actions  

Finally getting around to The Machine this week. Reading about Gary Nolan.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 18, 2011 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I saw those comps earlier when silverwidow talked about his ERA.

Would I rather have them lock Kershaw up to a Barry Zito deal sure, why not. Then he can be the face of the team and put the Dodgers on his back.

But I think if you are going to talk rebuilding, you cannot use Andre or even Kemp as starting points, he is your one player that any GM would take a call and might throw you a really good offer.

But I don’t think it will happen because he could be on his way towards 3000+ K and 300 wins.

by bhsportsguy on Aug 18, 2011 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you take into account his workload, his lefthandedness, his K/Rate, his improving B/Rate there is no comp other then Frank and Frank had three times the professional workload on his arm that Clayton has.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 18, 2011 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep

Of course Doc Gooden and Fernando should be discounted because its obvious they were androids.

by bhsportsguy on Aug 18, 2011 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

It is a little freaky, as Silverwidow pointed out earlier, that Kershaw has 666.6666666666666666666666666666666666666666666 innings pitched in his career.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 18, 2011 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kershaw has faced 726 batters this season, and 226 of them (31.1%) have either struck out or hit a fly ball in the infield.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 18, 2011 5:25 PM PDT reply actions  

You could start with

Lester and Pedroia and add some of their top prospects.

by bhsportsguy on Aug 18, 2011 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

No you couldn’t.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 18, 2011 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

what if we throw in etheir?

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Aug 18, 2011 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh the cruel irony of Ethier going to Boston, but not joining his ASU buddy! :)

by Eric Stephen on Aug 18, 2011 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

In some nuts world where this could happen you probably don’t even trade Pedroia straight up. He’s arguably the best player in baseball right now and his contract is really team friendly.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Aug 18, 2011 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kershaw for

a second baseman. Isn’t that ironic.

by bhsportsguy on Aug 18, 2011 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

…because Aaron Miles turns down a multi-year deal :)

by Eric Stephen on Aug 18, 2011 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Aack

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 18, 2011 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

If we ever traded for Pedroia he would Knoblauch himself and Delino DeShields would be erased from our memory.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 18, 2011 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is this the

Dustin should be MVP again but he won’t because RBI still counts for voters.

by bhsportsguy on Aug 18, 2011 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

it is the argument that Reg puts way to much emphasis on defensive metrics

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 18, 2011 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I never said it was a good argument :)

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Aug 18, 2011 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

But even if you just go by oWAR Pedroia is number five in the AL.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Aug 18, 2011 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I did not realize that

Mike Stanton was such a good defensive player per Baseball Reference.

by bhsportsguy on Aug 18, 2011 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have no clue who that is but I am wondering to myself why are little holes in fishnet stocking so damn sexy

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 18, 2011 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Those holes were made by cleats just seconds earlier.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 18, 2011 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow, I didn't even, uh, notice the owl at first...

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by underdog on Aug 18, 2011 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

agreed

Chukwudiebere Maduabum FTW!!!!!!!
twitter

by shaqfor3 on Aug 18, 2011 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just a kooky and possibly pointless thought, but... Al Avila, future Dodgers GM?

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/08/gm-candidate-al-avila.html

I mean, if new ownership came in. If Colletti is axed but McCourt is still around, maybe he’d go in house with Watson or White.

Avila of course has some Dodgers family connections. Just something I thought about for no good reason.

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by underdog on Aug 18, 2011 5:39 PM PDT reply actions  

We will take him along with his son

by Eric Stephen on Aug 18, 2011 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's the other thing I was thinking, while dreaming aloud...

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by underdog on Aug 18, 2011 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ian Kennedy unable to keep up with Clayton

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 18, 2011 5:40 PM PDT reply actions  

Was he pulled after the delay?

Meanwhile. Braves are up 1-0 on SF on a Chipper homer.

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by underdog on Aug 18, 2011 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

good lord

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Aug 18, 2011 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Castle

Has hit another bomb. This guy playing out of his mind.

by silverwidow on Aug 18, 2011 5:42 PM PDT reply actions  

Thank You

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 18, 2011 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

fantastic

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Aug 18, 2011 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d stick him back at 2nd base or 3rd base and see what he can do.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 18, 2011 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Phil came up with that one – Alex Castellanos

by silverwidow on Aug 18, 2011 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Isotopes for him next year?

Maybe we got a good player after all…

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by underdog on Aug 18, 2011 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

castelelelelenosalos

the guy we got for furcal

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by nolander on Aug 18, 2011 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

oic

thanks all. you guys arent too concerned about the perennial sss and the age thing?

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Aug 18, 2011 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

He was having a big year when we got him so the SSS if for the full year

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 18, 2011 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also

the Cardinals seem to always have that OF who is older but can hit for a few years until becoming a pumpkin.

by bhsportsguy on Aug 18, 2011 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Billy Chapel totally led the AL in wins, ERA, and strikeouts in 1984, per this guy.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 18, 2011 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Total guess, but Lolich?

by Eric Stephen on Aug 18, 2011 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

wins and strikeouts lead the AL in 1971, but his ERA (2.92) was 10th!

by Eric Stephen on Aug 18, 2011 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mickey Lolich made 45 starts and pitched 376 innings in 1971. First of four straight seasons of 300+ innings.

The fucking 1970s were awesome.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 18, 2011 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Round pitchers were the rage. Lolich, Tiant, Wood

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 18, 2011 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

There were 40 seasons of 300 innings pitched from 1970-1979.

Trivia: name the only Dodger to throw 300 innings in a season in the 1970s

by Eric Stephen on Aug 18, 2011 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nope

But from 1966-1980, Sutton had 15 straight years between 207 and 293.1 IP.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 18, 2011 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bingo

Mr. I Got My Contract Renewed pitched in 42 games, 40 starts in 1975, a total of 321 2/3 innings. 19-14, 2.29 ERA (149 ERA+), 19 complete games, 7 shutouts

by Eric Stephen on Aug 18, 2011 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

14 losses with those numbers?

Must not have had a great deal of run support.

He was only 5th in Cy Young balloting that year too.

Nothing is ever easy.

by drulenarendes on Aug 18, 2011 6:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Messersmith pitched 319 innings in those 40 starts, meaning he was one inning short of averaging exactly 8 innings per start.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 18, 2011 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Among the many reasons to love Roy Halladay

Since joining the National League he has averaged 7.51 innings in his 58 starts. The man is unreal.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 18, 2011 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

If I had to choose between him and Kershaw though

I’d take Kershaw. The numbers he’s put up already at 23 is also unreal.

Nothing is ever easy.

by drulenarendes on Aug 18, 2011 6:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fernando Valenzuela from 1981-1987 averaged 7.64 innings per start.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 18, 2011 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

300-inning seasons

1900s: 142
1910s: 86

1920s: 44
1930s: 17
1940s: 13
1950s: 10
1960s: 25
1970s: 40
1980s: 1 (Steve Carlton 304 innings in 1980 was the last time it happened)

by Eric Stephen on Aug 18, 2011 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think McLain had a good enough ERA

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 18, 2011 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hint

some say he should not be in the HOF.

by bhsportsguy on Aug 18, 2011 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Morris?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 18, 2011 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Alot of people say he should not be in the HOF:)

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 18, 2011 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bunning?

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by underdog on Aug 18, 2011 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

He would have been my second guess. Damn it.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 18, 2011 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

This was

hard – Hal Newhouser back at the end of WWII – won the AL Pitching Triple Crown.

by bhsportsguy on Aug 18, 2011 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was very surprised to see that Morris did lead the league in K’s once. He did have some great w/l seasons.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 18, 2011 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lolich?

Er.. guessing…

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by underdog on Aug 18, 2011 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Speaking of that

if Halladay can lose his next game I can write a Kershaw triple crown article before his next start

by Eric Stephen on Aug 18, 2011 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cueto

is going to have either not qualify for ERA or give up some runs.

by bhsportsguy on Aug 18, 2011 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cueto will be out of the race kicking and screaming soon enough.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 18, 2011 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

she looks like she is a baller, what does the manfriend do while she’s playing soccer

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Aug 18, 2011 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

drinks Guinness and other Irish things

by Josie Becker on Aug 18, 2011 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

She is

27 and they had they are the parents of a two-year old son. She is a former Miss Ireland contestant.

by bhsportsguy on Aug 18, 2011 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d love to see the woman/women that bested her in that contest.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 18, 2011 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

How is she?

I mean WHO is she?

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by underdog on Aug 18, 2011 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wallace and Gromits?

(kidding)

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by underdog on Aug 18, 2011 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

An interesting quote from the linked story
The model wife of Spurs star Robbie quickly regained her trim figure after giving birth to son Robert in May last year, after gaining two stone (28 lbs) while pregnant.

The size 8 (size 4 U.S) blonde insisted she didn’t hit the gym or resort to dieting to lose the baby weight, she was fortunate enough that it fell away naturally.

But Claudine did admit that pregnancy and breast-feeding had given her extra curves.

She revealed: ‘My boobs went from an A to an E cup (when I was pregnant). I hoped they’d end up a D cup, but I went down to 34C after the birth.

‘My bum is bigger now, too – which is great! Rob loves my curves.’

by bhsportsguy on Aug 18, 2011 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Interesting, or TMI?

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by underdog on Aug 18, 2011 6:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

TBLAMZ

Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.

by Pure Azure on Aug 18, 2011 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Things I liked for the excerpt:
Stone to describe weight
That a US size 4 is a Brit 8
Baby
bum

I’m sure y’all found other things you enjoyed

by Josie Becker on Aug 18, 2011 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I put those in

since I did not want people asking what stone converted to.

I believe dress sizes have changed greatly over the years.

by bhsportsguy on Aug 18, 2011 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

from what I’ve been told US sizes were dropped when the supermodel industry made anorexia the in look

by Josie Becker on Aug 18, 2011 6:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well

Marilyn Monroe has been described as a real life Jessica Rabbit.

by bhsportsguy on Aug 18, 2011 7:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Last MLB strikeout leader with a K/9 below 9?

by silverwidow on Aug 18, 2011 5:53 PM PDT reply actions  

I’ll guess Halladay but I don’t think that’s right.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 18, 2011 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Definitely not right. I looked it up. Very nice.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 18, 2011 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is it Steve Carlton?

by silverwidow on Aug 18, 2011 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s what I found. 1983

by Eric Stephen on Aug 18, 2011 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Now that PED era

is supposedly over or at least calmed down, it is surprising that no hitter ever won the Triple Crown during that time.

by bhsportsguy on Aug 18, 2011 5:57 PM PDT reply actions  

Manny would have won it in the late 90s if he played for Colorado.

by silverwidow on Aug 18, 2011 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have found eating the shells of Pumpkin Seeds isn’t half bad.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 18, 2011 6:04 PM PDT reply actions  

Kershaw has 10 ER in his 15 wins.

He has gone at least 6 2/3(only 3 times) in each of his "W’s, which to me says he’s more than deserved those wins. I love looking at Kid K’s stats.

by jrock247 on Aug 18, 2011 6:18 PM PDT reply actions  

Silveiro and Late Night Jake have hit HRs tonight too

along with Silveiro and Denker (yawn)

Van Slyke 2 hits incl double.

Withrow didn’t fare too well though, alas.

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by underdog on Aug 18, 2011 6:20 PM PDT reply actions  

I hope Silverio and Van Slyke get called up in September.

by dodgers4life on Aug 18, 2011 6:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

VS has an outside chance (especially ifthey do add him to roster to protect him)

doubt Silveiro would be considered though. They’re not gonna call up many outfielders and Sands and Hoffmann would more likely get the call first…

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by underdog on Aug 18, 2011 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Giants offense is sort of like the Dodgers, one good game a week and the rest is sputtering

today they are shutout through 8, though only down 1-0.

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by underdog on Aug 18, 2011 6:34 PM PDT reply actions  

Is that said in the voice of Wallace Shawn?

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by underdog on Aug 18, 2011 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tee-hee!

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by underdog on Aug 18, 2011 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Poor pothead

…not really

Nothing is ever easy.

by drulenarendes on Aug 18, 2011 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I could see feeling sorry for him, except...

not if you’re a Dodger fan. Hiroki Kuroda and the rest of the under supported staff waves hello.

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by underdog on Aug 18, 2011 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

They were better when they had Uribe and Velez. They should take them off our hands.

by VegasBlues on Aug 18, 2011 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cy Young?

Kershaw is 15-5 on a team 10 games under .500…WOW! I don’t believe any other pitcher in either league could accomplish that record.

by BaldBilly on Aug 18, 2011 6:44 PM PDT reply actions  

Halladay probably could.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 18, 2011 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did he, when he was with Toronto?

by berkowit28 on Aug 18, 2011 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

From 2002-2009, the Blue Jays winning percentage was .496.
Halladay was 130-59, a .688 winning percentage

by Eric Stephen on Aug 18, 2011 7:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

He was 19-7 on a team that won 78 games in 2002, as one example. Halladay has been winning for a decade.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 18, 2011 7:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good evening Mr. and Mrs. America from border to border and coast to coast and all the ships at sea

Item! Roy Halladay is pretty good!

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Aug 18, 2011 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

that was a great season for Halladay in 2002...

but Kershaw was 14 years old at the time…I don’t think 2002 (or last year for that matter) should have an impact on the 2011 Cy Young (although I’m sure it will).

by BaldBilly on Aug 19, 2011 6:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

They’re arguing about your other point, not the Cy Young part.

@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Aug 19, 2011 8:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Halladay is gonna win

but Kershaw is going to make it close

Nothing is ever easy.

by drulenarendes on Aug 18, 2011 6:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

One of those times when Law's snark is funny.
keithlaw
Giants. RT @Jose_Consuervo: @keithlaw Minor struck out 9 in 6, and 12 in 6 last year. Upside or luck?

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by underdog on Aug 18, 2011 6:46 PM PDT reply actions  

Jayson Stark on Twitter
8 times in 25 starts, Tim Lincecum has left a start with zero runs from his offense. He’s looking at No. 9 tonight. #whyWinsareoverrated

Two of those are against Kershaw. :)

Nothing is ever easy.

by drulenarendes on Aug 18, 2011 6:49 PM PDT reply actions  

Uh oh

per MinorLeagueBlog:

#Nats Bryce Harper carried off the field with a hamstring injury. Multiple reports from the game say he could not put weight on it.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 18, 2011 6:49 PM PDT reply actions  

Ouch!

Nats aren’t having much luck with their #1 overall picks are they?

Nothing is ever easy.

by drulenarendes on Aug 18, 2011 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jackie Robinson would've sucked it up

Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.

by Pure Azure on Aug 18, 2011 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did the other team blow him a kiss?

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Aug 18, 2011 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Speaking of the Angels

Chatwood optioned, Conger recalled

by Eric Stephen on Aug 18, 2011 6:50 PM PDT reply actions  

Let Mortal Combat Begin.

by Grimjack on Aug 18, 2011 6:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because

3 catchers is always a good use of your roster

by bhsportsguy on Aug 18, 2011 6:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

how often do we play velez again?

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by nolander on Aug 18, 2011 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

There’s this Austrialian guy on our team too apparently.

@andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Aug 18, 2011 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

For instance

Since the All-Star break, Kershaw, Billingsley and Kuroda all have more PA than Oeltjen.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 18, 2011 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

not a fan of..

Sandy Alomar, Dioner Navarro, and Toby Hall circa 2006..?

by Joey Joe on Aug 18, 2011 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Isnt Donnie hurting Kershaw's CY Young chances?

Whats with pulling him after 8 innings when he has a shutout?

Shutouts are a thing that impress the media/voters.

by Joey Joe on Aug 18, 2011 6:53 PM PDT reply actions  

he's done it 3 times..

Kershaw currently has 4 CGs/2 shut outs

7 complete games
5 shut outs

I think that would have made him a lock

by Joey Joe on Aug 18, 2011 7:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or Kershaw could have allowed a go-ahead home run like he did against the Braves in April.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 18, 2011 7:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

he had no chance of losing 2 of the games..

Up 5-0 vs the Brewers today
Up 6-0 vs the Mets on July 7th.

Up 1-0 vs the Giants…i supposed this is defensible but the Giants do have the worst offense in baseball.

I think Clayton will come up just short of the CY Young, and I’ll definitely blame Donnie..

Unless Kershaw is asking to come out of these games, Donnie’s just not letting him do everything he’s capable of.

by Joey Joe on Aug 18, 2011 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

The good news for the Giants

After they get home from their weekend trip to Houston, 21 of their final 34 games are at home and the only leave California for trips to Denver and Phoenix in September (BTW those visits bookend a trip to LA).

And they only have 6 out of their remaining 37 games against a +.500 team (D-Backs).

The D-Backs only have 4 more games against teams over .500 than the Giants, tonight’s game against the Phillies and then this weekend in Atlanta. They too will have a home heavy schedule once they get home next weekend (19 out of 31 games).

by bhsportsguy on Aug 18, 2011 7:02 PM PDT reply actions  

It’s going to be a mad dash race to the finish for those two teams.

Nothing is ever easy.

by drulenarendes on Aug 18, 2011 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

BTW

Victorino got his suspension reduced by one game and he started his suspension tonight. Don’t know what happens if this game gets called.

by bhsportsguy on Aug 18, 2011 7:07 PM PDT reply actions  

I am pretty sure

Arizona would rather lose tonight than have to figure out how to play a make up game with Philadelphia. If the game gets rained out, there is a chance that the players would vote to do it after the season (except again, giving credit to fans for this game for the Phillies could cost them a bunch of money).

by bhsportsguy on Aug 18, 2011 7:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Jered Weaver

threw 29 pitches in the first.

by bhsportsguy on Aug 18, 2011 7:24 PM PDT reply actions  

was watching the padres - marlins game..

They interviewed Austin Hedges, who just signed as a 2nd rounder for 3mils..He sounds very mature and polished for being right out of high school.

They also said this is the last year of the Florida Marlins.

On 11.11.11…the Marlins are changing their name to the Miami Marlins.
New logos/uniform and everything apparently.

by Joey Joe on Aug 18, 2011 8:18 PM PDT reply actions  

He’ll probably lower his K rate.

In the minors he had more bbs than ks.
Right now, he’s at 21/4

by Joey Joe on Aug 18, 2011 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

babip of 429

thats not going to last

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by nolander on Aug 18, 2011 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

neither are his ks

by Joey Joe on Aug 18, 2011 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

They are in the mile high altitude of Sacramento.

by silverwidow on Aug 18, 2011 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

He means mile-high like

Dope. Weed. Ganja. Grass. Mary Jane. Wacky Tobacky. Mari-jew-wanna.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Aug 18, 2011 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

he has been raking on this road trip

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by nolander on Aug 18, 2011 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

If he hit one out without looking I would be extra impressed!

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by underdog on Aug 18, 2011 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Josh Bell

has 202 career PA with a .507 OPS and 67 K and 5 walks.

by bhsportsguy on Aug 18, 2011 8:47 PM PDT reply actions  

We all thought this was a horrible trade

Even with only two good months from Sherrill, this trade hasn’t backfired.

Whatever happened to the other guy, Steve Johnson?

Nothing is ever easy.

by drulenarendes on Aug 18, 2011 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

its still a bad trade.

by NotJoeTorre on Aug 18, 2011 11:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Brandon Wood who????

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Aug 18, 2011 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

silverio

Alfredo Silverio hit for the cycle tonight!!

by teach4life on Aug 18, 2011 8:47 PM PDT reply actions  

Looks like Silverio might strike gold in Brandon’s minor league report.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 18, 2011 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

DT retweeted
dodgerthoughts
RT @MinorLeagueBlog: #Dodgers Alfredo Silverio just HIT FOR THE CYCLE. Doubled in the 11th in11-11 game. 5-7, 2B, 2(3B), HR, 3RBI on the day

by bhsportsguy on Aug 18, 2011 8:48 PM PDT reply actions  

Holy shit

bring this guy up now!

Nothing is ever easy.

by drulenarendes on Aug 18, 2011 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

It seems strange with the weirdest year I can think of for the Dodgers

that both the Angels and Giants fanbases are way more pissed off than Dodger fans. I mean, yes they have expectations but still, they want to clean house right now.

by bhsportsguy on Aug 18, 2011 8:50 PM PDT reply actions  

OTOH

Epic fail by the Lookouts. Bases loaded nobody out. Castellanos force and Webster (yes, Webster) pinch hits into a double play.

by teach4life on Aug 18, 2011 8:51 PM PDT reply actions  

There is a good chance

that both Lincecum and Weaver will lose games because their team didn’t score a run tonight.

by bhsportsguy on Aug 18, 2011 8:52 PM PDT reply actions  

Ever wonder what it’s like to wear the tools of ignorance? A former Dodger catcher tells NPR.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Aug 18, 2011 8:53 PM PDT reply actions  

I didn't listen to that yet

But that’s where I found the Ruiz link earlier today.

Worlds collide!!!

by Eric Stephen on Aug 18, 2011 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Worth a listen.

And fuck you, Ruiz.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Aug 18, 2011 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

One positive of washing my old iPhone

is that on my new iPhone (still the 3G version, same as before) my MLB AtBat, Pandora, AOL Radio, and Earwolf apps, to name a few all keep playing if I go back to the home screen. That wasn’t the case before, even with updates. So I got that going for me.

Which is nice.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 18, 2011 8:54 PM PDT reply actions  

Was it a requirement that you had to get the same version? I don’t know how you could’ve passed up the iPhone 4 if not.

by silverwidow on Aug 18, 2011 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

One thing you gotta know about Bride is that she’s really a very calm, measured person.

But six months ago, she decided she wanted an iPhone, and we agreed that we’d wait for the new one. Now she asks me every day if they’ve announced the release date for the iPhone 5.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Aug 18, 2011 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

SEPTEMBER

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Aug 18, 2011 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I tell her that, and she says, “September is not a date.”

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Aug 18, 2011 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

well they have an event scheduled in the first week

so tell her you won’t know till then. Then watch her ignore you and ask again tomorrow.

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Aug 18, 2011 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Awesome. We are on vacation first week of September.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Aug 18, 2011 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

hehe

I don’t think they launch their phones day of the announcment, they only do that with the ipads.

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Aug 18, 2011 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t wait in line for no phone, but I do wait in line for marital harmony.

We are going to have to see what happens in September.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Aug 18, 2011 9:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

7th is the day they will announce the release date

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Aug 18, 2011 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

All I care about is the data and I can get that for free at hot spots. No need to pay $80/mo.

by silverwidow on Aug 18, 2011 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

probably an insurance phone

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Aug 18, 2011 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I didn’t want to spend $200 for a new phone.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 18, 2011 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Napoli

Asks sosh how his ass taste

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Aug 18, 2011 8:56 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

I mean yes

the Guitar’s play will bug you and McDonald holding down a starting spot is annoying. But Napoli is 7 for 18 in this series with 2 HR.

by bhsportsguy on Aug 18, 2011 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

and wells hasn't done jack donkey diddlly

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by nolander on Aug 18, 2011 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

One benefit of the Dodgers completely sucking is that one single trade isn’t preventing the Dodgers from a playoff spot.

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by Humma Kavula on Aug 18, 2011 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

right its taken years of bad trades to get to this point.

by Joey Joe on Aug 18, 2011 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

its not the trades that have hurt is

its the free agent signings

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Aug 18, 2011 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

well

a bit of both.

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Aug 18, 2011 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

FA's have definitely hurt more

but the Casey Blake trade was a complete disaster. If Colletti doesn’t make that trade, then we probably still have Tray.

Nothing is ever easy.

by drulenarendes on Aug 18, 2011 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

it was not a "complete" disaster

but we lost that trade in the long run. Honestly would we still have tray? They didn’t just trade tray because they wanted more catching, they traded him because they obviously don’t believe in him.

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Aug 18, 2011 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

(points finger at nose)

I still think, at the end of the day, that trade won’t mean a hell of a lot. It is probably trading two quarters for three dimes, but it’s not like 50 cents buys you anything anyway.

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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Aug 18, 2011 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

carlos santana is already a good player

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Aug 18, 2011 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought we were talking about Trayvon.

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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Aug 18, 2011 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

well

we where talking about how the blake trade affected the tray trade. So yeah, you are 1/2 right!

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Aug 18, 2011 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

More right than I usually am.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Aug 18, 2011 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I figured out

if Andruw Jones and Andy Laroche had panned out, we might still win in 2008 and then we swing the Cliff Lee deal in 2009 by trading Santana as the centerpiece.

Then Lee and Kershaw are so dominant, Frank and Jamie decide to resolve their differences and they stay together.

The Dodgers win the World Series, the McCourts get their extension from Fox and we all live happily ever after.

by bhsportsguy on Aug 18, 2011 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

we would win the division easy in that scenario

and then on top of it we might have actually beat the phillies with laroches bat

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Aug 18, 2011 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

So we can blame our misfortunes on Jones coming into spring training fat and out of shape. Great, thanks a lot fatass.

Nothing is ever easy.

by drulenarendes on Aug 18, 2011 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, if you want to be like that, you can blame the acquisition of Jones on the fact that Juan Pierre turned out to be Juan Pierre instead of Stan Musial.

If only Pierre had been Musial, Jones never would have happened.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Aug 18, 2011 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well

then let’s blame Ned and Drew not rectifying their differences at the end of 2006.

by bhsportsguy on Aug 18, 2011 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I do blame them for that!

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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Aug 18, 2011 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I find it very satisfying

that Drew has never been able to replicate his 2006 numbers with the Red Sox.

Nothing is ever easy.

by drulenarendes on Aug 18, 2011 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

And he’s not really “JD” Drew, is he? David Jonathan gets abbreviated D.J. where I come from.

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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Aug 18, 2011 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah but drew is a cunt

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Aug 18, 2011 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

wasnt differences was it?

Ned could have re-signed Drew and chose not too when he opted out.

by Joey Joe on Aug 18, 2011 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

total scouting dept fail

for signing Pierre.

Should have had more faith in Kemp for CF.

by Joey Joe on Aug 18, 2011 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

How could they have known that Juan Pierre was not Stan Musial?

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Aug 18, 2011 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

if moreno hasn't figured out yet that reagins was a fool for trading him for wells

then he never will

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Aug 18, 2011 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

the toronto gm is pretty good

Gets out of Wells/Rios contracts for nothing.
Lands Rasmus for nothing.

He’ll probably never win in Toronto with Boston/NY in the same division, but he’s the 1st guy i call when Ned gets the ax.

He and Andrew Friedman (who interviewed for another recently)

by Joey Joe on Aug 18, 2011 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tampa Bay denied that

Friedman’s father was a member of the group that was in the running for the Astros but did not get it. Friedman’s name was brought up but nothing has happened.

by bhsportsguy on Aug 18, 2011 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or... maybe Kershaw's the best ptcher in MLB

says ESPN (Curt Schilling and Jamie Moyer, hah)
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=6875935&ex_cid=nhffromfb

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by underdog on Aug 18, 2011 9:42 PM PDT reply actions  

Did Moyer actually retire? Did I miss something? Or is he still trying to come back from the Tommy John?

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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Aug 18, 2011 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

according to his wiki page

not yet

After the 2010 season, Moyer’s contract expired and he was removed from the Phillies’ 40-man roster. He then went to the Dominican Winter Leagues to pitch where he suffered another elbow injury on November 6, 2010, likely ending his chance at 2011. He had surgery on December 1, 2010, in New York, to repair the ulnar collateral ligament in his elbow, in hopes to make a comeback in 2012. During his recovery from Tommy John surgery, Moyer is working for ESPN.

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by shaqfor3 on Aug 18, 2011 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I really, really hope Moyer pitches next year. That would be awesome, because I am old, but not as old as him.

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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Aug 18, 2011 9:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

In this context, “could be” means “could become.” Schilling and Moyer are quite clear that they do not think Kershaw is, today, the best pitcher in baseball.

They hang the “effectively wild” tag on him. Two Kavulapoints go to the commenter with the best definition for “effectively wild.”

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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Aug 18, 2011 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yah, was watching rest of that as I posted the link.

It was “he could definitely be” the best one at some point, so there’s a caveat. Moyer’s grammatically incorrect “I definitely agree with that” in answer to the question made me laugh.

Oh well, at least he’s getting some love. Just got some more on BBTN.

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by underdog on Aug 18, 2011 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Moyer might be the worst analyst I've ever seen

His critique of Kershaw is laughable. I think he’s just jealous that he has more talent at 23 than Moyer has had his entire life.

And does anyone else think Schilling sounds like Seth Rogen?

Nothing is ever easy.

by drulenarendes on Aug 18, 2011 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dodgers outscore the Brewers, lose 3 of 4.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Aug 18, 2011 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

haha yeah

i read about the games, been comment-free for a week or so

by mintxcore on Aug 18, 2011 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

teaching gig?

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by underdog on Aug 18, 2011 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

starts monday!!!

ahhhhh!!!

now the stress begins: need to find decent place to live in SB!

by mintxcore on Aug 18, 2011 9:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Whoa! YOu got the SB gig!? I missed that news. Congrats!

Damn, I wish my mom and stepdad hadn’t already rented their room out. Though it’s kind of small for two people. Will let you know if I hear anything.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Aug 18, 2011 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah! i havent announced it yet thou! still waiting to hear back fromt he other part of it (thou its pretty promising). still have the final paperwork to do and then…BOOM!

it’s pretty amazing, im super excited

by mintxcore on Aug 18, 2011 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

also

is hurt locker room on for this year????

by mintxcore on Aug 18, 2011 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

not sure yet, just sent you a FB message. Will decide soon.

was hoping someone else from that group was gonna do it this year.

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by underdog on Aug 18, 2011 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

high five!!

PS: Teach, it’s “though.” ;-) :-P

/mike tink, off

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by underdog on Aug 18, 2011 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

haha

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Aug 18, 2011 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well I have to rewrite the one time I do an Angels recap early.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 18, 2011 9:54 PM PDT reply actions  

He is the High Mucky Muck of SBN LA.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Aug 18, 2011 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is that an official title?

Nothing is ever easy.

by drulenarendes on Aug 18, 2011 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

the O in of is capitalized.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 18, 2011 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

No. He is actually the Lord High Everything Else of SBN LA.

The Meercat, of course, is the Lord High Executioner of SBN LA.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Aug 18, 2011 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m scared

Nothing is ever easy.

by drulenarendes on Aug 18, 2011 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

As Sunday it may happen that a victim must be found
He’s got a little list, he’s got a little list
Of TBLA commenters who would well be underground
And they never would be missed! They never would be missed!…

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Aug 18, 2011 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Haha

Nothing is ever easy.

by drulenarendes on Aug 18, 2011 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I believe this is your way

of making sure that I never meet your wife or you go to a Dodger game with me.

by bhsportsguy on Aug 18, 2011 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

hehe

by putting you on a subway without an exit fare?? ;D

well, its still possible! we still have at least all of sept of our LA apt. the wife will be living here while i commute/stay with my parents at first. plus we will be here many, many weekends

by mintxcore on Aug 18, 2011 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hang down your head, Mintxcore.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Aug 18, 2011 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is that from The Meercado?

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Aug 18, 2011 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

There’s people like Mike White and Dave, who don’t write any more;
And Humma K, who some do say, is often such a bore;
And BH, such an optimist, who no longer looks up;
And underdog, though he himself is no more just a pup;
And Joey Joe, as often now, it seems that he is pissed,
They would none of them be missed, they would none of them be missed.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Aug 18, 2011 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

(He's got 'em on the list — he's got 'em on the list.)

(Btw, Koko has a pretty horrible line right after that. I assume modern productions cut it out…)

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Aug 18, 2011 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

what a shot

by mark trumbo to win the game

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Aug 18, 2011 9:54 PM PDT reply actions  

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