Los Angeles Dodgers Weekly Recap: Good Starting Pitching, Not Many Wins
by Eric Stephen on Aug 21, 2011 5:20 PM PDT
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PrintThe Dodgers outscored their opponents for the fourth straight week, but didn't have much to show for it. The team lost three of four games in Milwaukee and lost two of three games in Colorado to begin their beer park road trip with a 2-5 record.
Dodger Batter of the Week: Well he didn't get to pitch on Sunday, but James Loney had nearly a week's worth of production with a four-hit game. On the week, Loney hit .333/.412/.600 with a double and a home run.
Honorable mention goes to Rod Barajas, who hit .364 with two home runs in three games before hurting his groin. In his last seven road games, Barajas is hitting .478 with two doubles, three home runs and 11 RBI. Tony Gwynn also had a week of note, hitting .320/.320/.560 with his first two home runs of the season.
Dishonorable mention goes to Andre Ethier, who had two singles in 20 at-bats during the week and is hitting just .233/.313/.300 with one home run in 33 games since the All-Star break.
Dodger Pitcher of the Week: Clayton Kershaw is the easy winner here, pitching eight scoreless innings on Thursday against the playoff-bound Brewers to give the Dodgers their only win in four games in Milwaukee.
Honorable mention goes to the rest of the starting staff, who had ERAs of 3.00, 3.00, 3.07, and 3.09 for the week.
Week 21 Record: 2-5
24 runs scored (3.43 per game)
23 runs allowed (3.29 per game)
.519 pythagorean winning percentage
Season Record: 57-69
465 runs scored (3.69 per game)
491 runs allowed (3.90 per game)
.475 pythagorean winning percentage (60-66)
Inside The Park: On Saturday in the 12th inning at Coors Field, Trent Oeltjen lined a ball to center field that eluded a diving Dexter Fowler. By the time Fowler recovered, Oeltjen was on his way home and had the Dodgers' first inside-the-park home run since Blake DeWitt on May 6, 2008. Since 2000, the Dodgers have only had five inside-the-park home runs: Oeltjen, DeWitt, and a trio from 2003 (Paul LoDuca, Robin Ventura, and Dave Roberts).
Power/Speed Watch I: Matt Kemp had no home runs but did two steal two bases this week, and through 126 team games, Kemp has 28 home runs and 33 stolen bases. He is on pace for 36 home runs and 42 stolen bases this season.
Power/Speed Watch II: Ted Lilly gave up two home runs and four stolen bases in his two starts this week, putting his season totals at 27 home runs and 29 stolen bases allowed. With likely seven more starts remaining, Lilly is on pace to allow 34 homers and 37 steals. No Dodger pitcher has ever allowed a 30/30 season, and the last one in the majors was by Gavin Floyd in 2008.
Nice Job Kid: Since his contract was purchased by the Dodgers on August 12, Justin Sellers leads the Dodgers with seven runs scored. Since runs scored is Don Mattingly's favorite statistic to gauge offensive performance, that might explain why Sellers has hit second in each of his last four starts.
Transactions: none this week
Game Results:
- Monday: Brewers 3, Dodgers 0
- Tuesday: Brewers 2, Dodgers 1
- Wednesday: Brewers 3, Dodgers 1
- Thursday: Dodgers 5, Brewers 1
- Friday: Dodgers 8, Rockies 2
- Saturday: Rockies 7, Dodgers 6 (13)
- Sunday: Rockies 5, Dodgers 3
Upcoming Week: The Dodgers run the Larry Walker gauntlet next week, finishing their beer stadium road trip in St. Louis before coming home to face Colorado.
| Mon | Tue | Wed | Thu | Fri | Sat | Sun |
| 22 at StL 5:15pm |
23 at StL 5:15pm |
24 at StL 11:15am |
25 Off |
26 vs Col 7:10pm |
27 vs Col 1:10pm |
28 vs Col 1:10pm |
| Eovaldi v. (R) Carpenter |
Kershaw v. (R) Lohse |
Kuroda v. (L) Garcia |
Lilly v. (R) Rogers |
Billingsley v. (R) Millwood |
Eovaldi v. (R) Chacin |
Previous Weeks In Review: Week 1 | Week 2 | Week 3 | Week 4 | Week 5 | Week 6 | Week 7 | Week 8 | Week 9 | Week 10 | Week 11 | Week 12 | Week 13 | Week 14 | Week 15 | Week 16 | Week 17 | Week 18 | Week 19 | Week 20
Week 21 Stats
| Player | PA | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | BB | SB/CS | BA/OBP/SLG | OPS |
| Loney | 17 | 15 | 2 | 5 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 3 | 2 | 0/0 | .333/.412/.600 | 1.012 |
| Gwynn | 25 | 25 | 4 | 8 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 2 | 0 | 1/0 | .320/.320/.560 | .880 |
| Kemp | 31 | 29 | 3 | 10 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 2 | 2/2 | .345/.387/.379 | .766 |
| Rivera | 28 | 25 | 2 | 8 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 2 | 0/0 | .320/.357/.400 | .757 |
| Miles | 30 | 26 | 2 | 7 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 4 | 4 | 0/1 | .269/.367/.385 | .751 |
| Sellers | 28 | 26 | 5 | 6 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 2 | 1/0 | .231/.286/.308 | .593 |
| Carroll | 22 | 19 | 1 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 2 | 0/0 | .211/.286/.211 | .496 |
| Navarro | 18 | 17 | 0 | 2 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0/0 | .118/.167/.176 | .343 |
| Ethier | 23 | 20 | 1 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 0/0 | .100/.217/.100 | .317 |
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| Oeltjen | 9 | 7 | 1 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 1/0 | .429/.556/.857 | 1.413 |
| Barajas | 11 | 11 | 3 | 4 | 1 | 0 | 2 | 5 | 0 | 0/0 | .364/.364/1.000 | 1.364 |
| Blake | 11 | 10 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0/0 | .100/.182/.100 | .282 |
| Velez | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0/0 | .000/.000/.000 | .000 |
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| Pitchers | 18 | 17 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0/0 | .059/.059/.059 | .118 |
| Totals | 272 | 248 | 24 | 61 | 8 | 0 | 7 | 23 | 21 | 5/3 | .246/.304/.363 | .667 |
| Pitcher | G | W-L | Sv | IP | H | R | ER | BB | K | ERA | WHIP | FIP* |
| Kershaw | 1 | 1-0 | -- | 8.0 | 5 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 6 | 0.00 | 0.625 | 1.63 |
| Eovaldi | 1 | 0-1 | -- | 6.0 | 5 | 2 | 2 | 3 | 2 | 3.00 | 1.333 | 4.46 |
| Kuroda | 1 | 1-0 | -- | 6.0 | 4 | 2 | 2 | 3 | 5 | 3.00 | 1.167 | 2.96 |
| Billingsley | 2 | 0-1 | -- | 14.2 | 7 | 6 | 5 | 7 | 12 | 3.07 | 0.955 | 4.49 |
| Lilly | 2 | 0-1 | -- | 11.2 | 5 | 4 | 4 | 5 | 11 | 3.09 | 0.857 | 4.50 |
| Starters | 7 |
2-3 | -- | 46.1 | 26 |
14 | 13 | 18 | 36 | 2.53 | 0.950 | 3.80 |
| Guerrier | 3 | 0-0 | -- | 3.2 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0.00 | 0.818 | 3.95 |
| Elbert | 4 | 0-0 | -- | 3.0 | 3 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 3 | 3.00 | 1.000 | 5.46 |
| MacDougal | 4 | 0-0 | -- | 2.0 | 6 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 2 | 4.50 | 4.500 | 9.13 |
| Hawksworth | 2 | 0-1 | -- | 1.2 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 5.40 | 1.200 | 3.13 |
| Lindblom | 2 | 0-0 | -- | 2.2 | 3 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 3 | 6.75 | 1.500 | 2.01 |
| Kuo | 3 | 0-1 | -- | 1.1 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 4 | 6.75 | 0.750 | (0.62) |
| Guerra | 2 | 0-0 | 0/1 | 2.0 | 4 | 3 | 3 | 1 | 2 | 13.50 | 2.500 | 2.63 |
| Relievers | 7 |
0-2 |
0/1 | 16.1 | 19 | 9 | 9 | 8 | 14 |
4.96 |
1.653 | 3.93 |
| Totals | 7 |
2-5 | 0/1 | 62.2 | 45 | 23 | 22 | 26 | 50 | 3.16 | 1.133 | 3.83 |
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I know if GScott was Australian, he would have had an inside park home run
by bhsportsguy on Aug 21, 2011 6:04 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Like a vampire Jackie Robinson.
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by Humma Kavula on Aug 21, 2011 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Kuotastic is back
It is simply ridiculous that Velez is taking up a spot on this roster when they need a 3rd catcher or extra pitcher. Ridiculous.
I’m beginning to think Ned was brilliant this trading deadline period.
I just threw out about 30 cherries that might have saved a few life’s today because of the irregular bruises and such.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I also like the trade deadline trade. Federowicz looks like he will be a solid starter possibly for next year,Fife looks good especially since he gives us good depth now that De La Rosa is injured, and Rodriguez is an intriguing RP. I like what Colletti has done. Haven’t been many bad trades although Santana was tough to lose but we thought Martin was the guy and Blake helped us make the playoffs so it made sense at the time.
by dodgers4life on Aug 21, 2011 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Don't look now but we are in last place
the good news is that we now are poised for the 5th pick
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Not
A hometown discount if Weaver gets 85M for one year arb and 4 free agent years
by bhsportsguy on Aug 21, 2011 5:55 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Yes it was
Havent seen the break down but if the 4 free agent years are $72 million, that’s less than what elite pitchers cost.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 21, 2011 6:14 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Had
To be pushed by Weaver since Boras would rather wait.
by bhsportsguy on Aug 21, 2011 6:18 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Is
A no trade clause worth 20M
by bhsportsguy on Aug 21, 2011 6:19 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Weaver signing with Boras as his agent
is shocking in a big way
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Apparently he just really wanted to stay
even Boras listens to his clients. I suppose he just wanted a deal done that was in the ballpark. We should be so lucky with Matt Kemp.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
even Boras listens to his clients
You are right on, and in fact, this cannot be overstated. Boras gets a bum rap, in my opinion. I would say that Boras ONLY does as his clients instruct.
I would imagine that most of them go to him to maximize their earnings, on whatever team that might be, but that is still what the client is instructing his agent to do.
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by Humma Kavula on Aug 21, 2011 9:29 PM PDT up reply actions
5-85 is a great deal compared to what he would have gotten as a free agent
Something like CCs contract I’d guess.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
I compared Weaver’s deal to Verlander, Felix, et al over on SBN LA
by Eric Stephen on Aug 21, 2011 11:33 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I didn’t watch any game this weekend but I did realize something. I never wanna see James Loney pitch, ever..
Loney’s arm is not conditioned for pitching, so if he really did go out ont the mound not properly trained and prepared, likely he would hurt himself in the process.
by 68elcamino427 on Aug 21, 2011 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions
DeJesus has been on fire last 10 games, 14 hits, 7 walks, 1.058 OPS, 8 of the 10 games were on the road.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Tolleson - last 10 games
18 K’s
2 walks
12 IP
As a relief pitcher he now has 102 K’s in 64 innings.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I really want to see him in the majors in September
Idk if it will happen though.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
24 Year old CF, Ex USC Star Nick Buss
with the greatest month of his professional career. 1.145 OPS, 4 doubles, 4 triples, 5 home runs, seven stolen bases, no caught stealing.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
That's awesome
I’ve liked Buss since early last year.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Jansen worked a perfect inning with two K’s.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
:D
come back soon Kenley!!
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 21, 2011 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions
22 year old Chris Jacobs now with an OPS of .898
wonder if he will hit .900.
Last Dodger 1st base prospect to have a .900 OPS in the MWL?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Jerry Sands?
He spent the majority of his time in the MWL at 1st base, with some time in the OF.
333/432/646= 1.078 as a 22yr old
I had no idea he was doing so well
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
More playing time for Trent Oltjean?
250/387/438 in 48abs…he’s walked 11 times.
Best offensive lineup right now:
2b – Carroll (361)
LF – Oeltjean (387)
CF – Kemp (394)
RF – Ethier (364)
1b – Rivera (365)
3b – Miles (314)
C – Barajas (280)
SS – Sellers (282)
I’d give that a go for the final month and see what happens.
Why, neither Carroll or Miles will be here in 2012. Why not simply put DeJesus at 2nd, Gordon at SS, Sellers at 3rd?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Why, neither Carroll or Miles will be here in 2012.
Is that a given? I get all the reasons why he’ll be elsewhere next year but….
Given the way Dodger fans have become attached to Carroll, one must think that the Dodger brass has also taken a real shine to him. I’ll bet his price has gone up a little, but not so much as to make him unaffordable. He’s had the best two years of his career in LA and I can’t imagine that anyone else out there is going to hand him a starting 2B job.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe there are no good FA candidates for 2B or 3B. Dodgers need one — Uribe will play the other. And besides, the Dodgers have no money anyway. So that leaves, what, IDJ and Sellers, two fringe upon fringe candidates.
Maybe they like one of those guys as an opening day starter, but I can’t imagine that Coletti hands one of them the starting job without a guy like Carroll on th bench, ready to take over when (or, I suppose, if) the starter fails.
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by Humma Kavula on Aug 21, 2011 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Dodger fans were also attached to Juan Pierre : p
by Josie Becker on Aug 21, 2011 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I know you’re just being snarky, so I don’t want to take this too seriously, especially since I’ve already had too much gin for a Sunday night and I’m about to pour another one, but no, I don’t think they were.
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by Humma Kavula on Aug 21, 2011 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I think the overwhelming majority of Dodgers fans liked Juan Pierre by the time he was traded and think we should have kept him. But I agree that Carroll will be at least considered by the brass as a serious possibility because he is a) reasonably cheap, b) reasonably effective and c) reasonably well-liked.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
The majority of well-informed Dodgers fans rejoiced when we got money and Ely/Link for Pierre.
by Taylor Maricle on Aug 22, 2011 12:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Ethier's value is plummeting by the day
Crap, might as well hold on to him, hope he finds his stroke and power…
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Ethier is over cooked
He needs some time off
Why not give Oltjean some playing time?
by 68elcamino427 on Aug 21, 2011 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Dammit, four months ago I talked about trading Ethier and I was alone, alone, all, all alone, alone on a wide wide sea.
And now look at all the fuckin’ boats alongside me.
I STILL think Ethier will not be a part of the next great Dodger team, and as such, the Dodgers have to figure out the right time to part ways. How can they maximize his value — an offseason trade? A deadline trade? Keep him, let him walk, and take the picks?
…but the idea that he is somehow not an asset of tremendous value is crazy. Remember that chart that somebody — I think it was the meercat — posted to show me how nuts I was? It was a list of outfielders who had put up an 850 OPS over the past X years. It was a short list. Now there was all sorts of information in that list, including age and salary, that led to a lot of blah blah blah, but the point cannot be ignored: Ethier was on that list.
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by Humma Kavula on Aug 21, 2011 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Ethier is certainly hurting his value
right now, he has a career-low slugging pct and ISO. I still think you get more value in the offseason than at the deadline, cos the other team would get a full season of him in a contract year. I expect him to have a big year next year, so there is also an argument to hold onto him and deal him if the Dodgers are out of it in June/July.
Regarding the draft picks, it’s not a given that compensatory picks will still be awarded in 2012 with a new CBA, right??
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
The fact that Ethier is having a down year is a complicating factor. Other teams will give up less for him now than they would have six months ago.
And you’re right, that’s not a given, though I think the latest thinking is that compensatory picks will still be around. But who knows?
I’d certainly put out feelers on Ethier and see what others are willing to give up… and I’d do that all throughout the season, especially if Ethier’s HR numbers come back up. But at the end of the day, I’d be willing to gamble on the compensatory picks.
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by Humma Kavula on Aug 21, 2011 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I did bring up trading Ethier in May I think
so I would have shopped him last month if I were the GM, but who knows what happened. If he was discussed it certainly didn’t leak anywhere, so I doubt Ned brought him up. I’m sure the mindset in the front office is “see what happens” but that mindset causes us to hold onto people too late. Happened with Furcal, happens with every reliever who becomes expensive too. Sometimes you have to be proactive.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
I gotta believe that Ethier’s name came up, if only in the purely hypothetical, just-a-feeler talks about what it would take to get him.
In this case, I can’t blame the management for taking a see-what-happens approach.
First, I gotta say, while I’d trade him, I’m not sure I’m right. Ethier is a valuable player. Trading Ethier is tantamount to punting 2012. I’d do that, but I could be wrong. If things are to go right in 2012, Ethier will have to be a part of that. He is not a reliever who becomes expensive. He is a corner outfielder capable of putting up an 850 OPS.
Second, even if trading him is the right move, it’s not clear at what point his value would be maximized.
Third, with the way trades for prospects have been going, maybe you’re better off just letting him walk and taking the picks. If you take a highly touted prospect that flames out, you look foolish; let him walk and the dude doesn’t develop, well, nobody remembers.
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by Humma Kavula on Aug 21, 2011 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions
The last sentence could have been phrased more clearly. If you get a pick because your FA player walked away, and that pick does not develop, nobody will remember and say, “You should have traded that FA when you had the chance.”
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by Humma Kavula on Aug 21, 2011 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions
A corner outfielder with 10 homers better be elite in other aspects of his game to be that valuable. While he is more valuable than a reliever, my point is that there comes a point with every player, if you don’t think they are essential to the future, that they fulfill the law of diminishing returns salary-wise.
I know this — if Ethier’s salary is an obstacle to extending Kemp (if Kemp is even interested in doing so) then I ship him off for the best that I can get and don’t look back.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
I thought you were crazy then, but we have seen his production plummet since then. I’m still not jumping in my boat to join you, but I’m getting nearer to the launch ramp.
Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.
But this is my point: Ethier’s value, long-term, has not changed.
Barring something unforseen or a fluke season, the Dodgers don’t figure to be good — I mean, really, really good, 2009 good — for at least a few seasons. And by then, Ethier will certainly be in his decline.
THAT was the reason to trade Ethier: to have in place the pieces that would be ready to participate by the time the Dodgers were ready to be good again.
Ethier’s power is down this year, but with offense down across baseball, Ethier is still a very valuable chit. His OPS+ before today’s games was 122 — yes, off some, but not tremendously. His HR are down but his 2B will be up.
I don’t think the last four months have changed anything. The reason to trade Ethier — and I do think he should be traded — is the worry about what he’ll be like in 2014, 2015, 2016 — not 2012. I have no doubt he’ll be a valuable player in 2012 — just not valuable enough to make the Dodgers a contender, that’s all.
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by Humma Kavula on Aug 21, 2011 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions
all baseball fans need to watch this weeks episode
by Hollywood Joe on Aug 21, 2011 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Question
2 outs, runner on third, 2-2 count. Runner takes off for home, slides in, batter doesn’t swing. ball is in the strike zone, but hits runner sliding across the plate before the catcher catches the ball. Runner is safe? Ball is dead? Batter strikes out?
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamp post: for support, not illumination." - Vin Scully
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