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Reflecting On A Season Of Watching The Isotopes
by fbihop on Aug 30, 2011 1:22 PM PDT
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As you probably know by now, I live in Albuquerque, home of the Dodgers' AAA affiliate, the Albuquerque Isotopes.
The Albuquerque Isotopes played their final home game Sunday night. It was also, obviously, the final home game of the season that I attended.
A couple of weeks ago, someone here asked me why I went to minor league games (and not in a mean way, just genuinely curious. At least that's how I took it). The games don't really matter, no matter how many PCL Championships Albuquerque has won*, no one cares about those banners. Hell, I'm not even sure if you get banners for winning the PCL.
* None as the Isotopes, but 8 as the still-beloved and dearly departed Dukes.
So why did I go to so many games?
Brandon can tell you that the stadium is pretty amazing for a minor league park. I can't imagine any minor league park, or major league park for that matter, has a view quite like the Sandia Mountains rising in the distance. It is clean, the staff is friendly and always on top of things. The lines are rarely long at the concessions. You can get your food or beer and get back to your seat between innings and only miss a batter or two.
Oh and the price helps.
I'm not exactly sure how many games I attended but it was somewhere near a dozen. And in total, the tickets probably cost about the same as tickets to two games at Coors Field.
A night at the park will set you back about the same as a night out at the movies. I never spent more than $14 on tickets. You can get a 24 oz. Isotopes-branded microbrew beer (either the "Slammin' Amber" or "Triple A Blonde") for $6.75 if you go to the right concession stand.
The friendly atmosphere at the stadium helps and the famous Green Chile Race is always fun to watch and cheer for green chile (screw you, red chile!).
Probably the best thing, for me at least, is getting to see prospects. I got to see Dee Gordon steal a number of bases,** makes some incredible plays in the field and overall just show that he is FAST. If you haven't seen him in person, he is cartoon-fast.
** Including the photo above, my favorite photo I've ever taken. If I knew how to add a caption, it would say, "Dee Gordon is so fast sometimes he can literally fly).
I've seen Jerry Sands hit a number of home runs, including a grand slam that had just about everyone in the stadium up on their feet and cheering. There are also the second-tier guys that you cheer for but know they will maybe be a bench piece or only get a cup of coffee -- if that -- in the majors. Guys like Trent Oeltjen and John Lindsey.
On the downside, I did see Eugenio Velez play more than a few times. I mean, actually play, not just strikeout as a pinch hitter and go meekly back to the dug out.
Oh, and the home runs. Everybody loves the long ball. Some of the home runs look like they're going to reach the Sandias in the distance. I remember seeing Trayvon Robinson** blasting a pair of home runs well over the fence in the deepest part of the park. And Robinson nearly cleared the scoreboard on one home run that must have been near 500 feet.
*** Pour some out for one's homies.
Most people, however, are just there for a night out. A date night, a night away from the kids. Just a night out of the house and in the warm summer air.
To entertain those fans, you get to see your share of promotions. Like Rockin' Ray and his Amazing Skyy Dogs!
Another crowd pleaser is Myron Noodleman. And B-Boy McCoy, the dancing Bat Boy. Yes, these all exist and similar entertainment will forever exist in minor league parks across the land.
The fans at times seem to have more fun doing the wave*** and clapping along to the prerecorded noise makers than paying attention to the game. But that is a measure of how much the Isotopes are just a part of life in Albuquerque. Like I said, it is an alternative to going to the movies, or playing miniature golf or other things that people do before going out to bars.
**** I hate doing the wave. And yet if you get a few beers in me I'll start doing the wave without even thinking. Damn beer.
When you go, there is usually a good sized crowd for the level of play. The Isotopes announced on Twitter that they averaged 8,100 fans per game. This is impressive since the Isotopes didn't get a few guaranteed sellouts like they did a couple years back due to Manny Ramirez's rehab tour extravaganza (photos).
It seems like they don't juice the attendance numbers either. I've showed up to games where it was near a sellout (like on Sunday) and midweek games where the stadium was more than half-empty and have never seen an attendance figure that seemed completely wrong.
And, of course, its baseball. What says summer more than going to a game at ballpark as the sun is setting, having a beer and a hot dog and hearing the crack of the bat?
I have to wait until next year to see that and see the next wave of promising prospects, journeyman minor leaguers and the other assorted kids and castoffs play baseball. I can't wait.
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sounds like fun
thanks for the photos!!
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 29, 2011 10:22 PM PDT reply actions
Great stuff again, fbihop. I always love first-hand accounts.
I’ll put this on the front page tomorrow afternoon.
the weather too
surprisingly temperate. i loved my night in ABQ a month ago.
by truemontenegro on Aug 29, 2011 11:37 PM PDT reply actions
been meaning to go out to rancho
obv if a team was closer I would go to a bunch of games.. wacky promotions! cheap(er) beer!
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Aug 30, 2011 1:25 PM PDT reply actions
Prison Camp story
I loved this:
there were hardly any traditional ones. And the few that store did carry were in odd sizes like 6 7/8 or 7 ¾.
You mean 7 3/4, traditionally the most common hat size next to 7 3/8?
@RB_GScott
Is that true?
I always figured 7½ was the most common or maybe 7¼
by Eric Stephen on Aug 30, 2011 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I try to only buy flex fit hats these days.
by Michael White on Aug 30, 2011 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I am a 7 3/4 – but I think that is really big
I wear a XXL in a bike helmet
by Hollywood Joe on Aug 30, 2011 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I have a small head, they were able to vacuum seal my ego and suck all the air out of it.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I am one of those people that enjoys wearing hats, but whenever I wear anything on my head, in any size — from a yarmulke to a Stetson — people are like, WTF is on your head?
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Aug 30, 2011 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions
My wife would rather I wear a hat so I wear a hat.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
That is the one thing I have going for me. I may be a tiny, ugly, angry troll, but I have a beautiful, thick head of hair.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Aug 30, 2011 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Damn you, I thought she just liked me in hats, I didn’t realize until now she only wanted me to wear hats to cover up my baldness.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
She’s just looking out for you, so you don’t get burnt on top of your head. It’s why I stick a hat on Folly every time we go outside.
Your other option is to rub some SPF 50 shit all over your head, but I don’t think you want to do that.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Aug 30, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Then why am I wearing hats inside the house:)
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Oh. Huh. Hmm.
Maybe Verdell is into it, in a Randy Newman kind of way. Play it that way and put on the hat.
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by Humma Kavula on Aug 30, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Heh.
I’m a 7 5/8 and I used to take crap for having a huge head.
by Taylor Maricle on Aug 30, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I am also a big-headed 7 5/8. Esp. big considering I’m just barely bigger than Humma Kuvula, who is as small as you can be and still shop in the men’s department.
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What an ass
I have a 7 3/4 size head, lol
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Yes, that guy, the guy sitting in AAA so Miles can shortarm 3rd base.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
It would be one thing if Miles were actually still Supermiles, but since August 1 he is hitting .237/.280/.387.
On the other hand, cue Bill Murray.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Aug 30, 2011 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Any scene with Brad Pitt looks good, any scene with Brandt I want to slap him hard.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
what we see in the trailer
smart people have no confidence
old people have dumb ideas
brad Pitt throws furniture – a lot
Phillip Seymour Hoffman looks ridiculous in a baseball uniform
streamers of toilet paper are pretty
I’ll see it, on a plane, to somewhere I have to go…but it doesn’t make me all weak in the knees the way Sugar did
by Hollywood Joe on Aug 30, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Why did they even bother casting a high profile actor in the manager role? So he could deliever this “yes sir” lines with authority?
by Michael White on Aug 30, 2011 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Considering the actor, I’m sure you’re right. Like Eric says, I should just forget everything from the book, because I doubt the Howe character warranted more than a few speaking lines.
by Michael White on Aug 30, 2011 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions
PSH did not sign up to be anyone’s puppet.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
But then why does Brad have his hand half way up his backside?
by Grimjack on Aug 30, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
thats probably the conflict
he doesn’t want to be a puppet, he wants to make his own stupid decisions like all the other managers!
ha
My guess is he’ll be buffoonish. Caught in the middle between old baseball rules and the new kids in the front office. Action!
I’ve been with the company for twenty-four years. I was posted in Greece for fifteen. I’ve advised and armed the Astros. I’ve neutralized champions of smallball. I’ve spent the past three years… learning X-FIP! Which would come in handy here in Virginia, and I’m never ever sick at sea. So I wanna know why… I’m not gonna be your Oakland A’s manager.
by nolander on Aug 30, 2011 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
So people who don’t know jack shit about baseball will think that if Phillip Seymour Hoffman is in it, it must be an artsy movie.
When they find it is about WAR and they still don’t understand what it is good for there will be hell to pay.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I’m of the opinion that Paul Giammati can play anything
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
He’ll never match his performance in Private Parts
by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Aug 30, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I am going to try to go into the movie and not think about the book at all. As a movie, I agree, it looked watchable.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 30, 2011 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Fangraphs
Adam Dunn the worst season ever for a good player
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Did enjoy this comment:
Yirmiyahu says:
August 30, 2011 at 4:32 pm
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Oh, this debate is sad.
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I’d like to point out that, if you theoretically replaced Dunn ($12M this year), Pierre ($8.5M this year), and Rios ($12M this year) with three replacement level AAAA scrubs, the White Sox would be 71-61, and tied with Detroit in the loss column.
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Theoretically.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Nice stuff, fbihop!
Cool pics, too. I’d never paid much attention to the dimensions of that place, but looks like it’s 340 down the line, 404 into alley, and 420 (?) at the farthest part of CF? Not too tiny but wonder if people would be less skeptical of HR stats there given altitude, if they’d need to push fences back even further to adjust? Just curious.
Anyway, thanks!
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and oodles of doubles, don’t forget the oodles of doubles
by Hollywood Joe on Aug 30, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions
baseballs travel roughly 0.006 feet further per foot of altitude above sea level. At 4900(ish) feet above sea level, a 400 foot shot at Dodger Stadium will travel 425 feet at Isotopes Park. The alleys and lines would have to be so much deeper it wouldn’t even feel like baseball anymore.
@RB_GScott
Frisby catching dogs are entertaining. Has anyone hear been able to teach their dog to catch a frisbee long toss?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
training your dog to catch frisbees is not entertaining
watching some other dude do tricks with his dog is entertaining
it is good to be the king
by Hollywood Joe on Aug 30, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I tried that once at the Grand Canyon. Mom never let me have another dog after that.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 30, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions
My dog can do it. I never thought he’d actually get good at it, but one day he just starting catching everything I threw. I assumed we would just play fetch with the frisbee but now he catches everything that’s a decent throw.
by Michael White on Aug 30, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions
OT:
Good read about the difference in travel in the NBA and the European leagues.
http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2011/8/30/2385992/nba-lockout-2011-overseas-toad-trips-europe
tommy milone
nats just called up a dude from triple-a with a 10:1 k/bb ratio – 155:16. goddamn.
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Aug 30, 2011 2:11 PM PDT reply actions
That would require me to watch or read about college baseball.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 30, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Quite an advantage if you win both halves in the Southern League
Tennessee (Cubs affiliate) won the Northern Division first half.
Lookouts and Smokies are tied right now in the second half. If Tennessee wins the second half, too, the Lookouts reach the playoffs by having the second best overall record, but Tennessee would get potentially four home games in a five-game series:
at Tennessee
at Tennessee
at Chattanooga
at Tennessee
at Tennessee
But if the Lookouts win the second half, they would get home field advantage, but in a weird 1995-1996 MLB division series way:
at Tennessee
at Tennessee
at Chattanooga
at Chattanooga
at Chattanooga
by Eric Stephen on Aug 30, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions
at Tennessee
at Tennessee
at Chattanooga
at Tennessee
at Tennessee
I can think of a bunch of reasons why this will never happen in MLB — not least because they are going to add a second WC team — but I kind of like it. They could use it to reward the team with the best record in baseball — make it very difficult for a WC team to knock them out in the first round.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Aug 30, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions
No wild card team should ever get to play at home. Phuck the fans.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I think there is a disconnect between your first and second sentence.
1) No wild card team should ever get to play at home. I can get on board with that. You wanna make the playoffs as a second place team? OK by me, but you gotta beat the best entirely on their turf. If you can do that, you deserve to go on.
2) Phuck the fans. What’d they do to incur your wrath?
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Aug 30, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Australian Rules Football playoff system all the way.
Once every talking head gets tired of yelling about how its for nerds it’s pretty awesome.
Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Aug 30, 2011 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Things I learned just now
1. Australian Rules Football’s playoff system is pretty awesome.
2. Australian Rules Football has a playoff system.
3. There is something called Australian Rules Football.
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Aug 30, 2011 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Come on, number 3 is definitely a lie, right?
by Michael White on Aug 30, 2011 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions
You’ll never know!
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by Humma Kavula on Aug 30, 2011 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I thought it was only marginally different from rugby. Gaelic Football (and hurling) is a bit different than rugby (it’s kind of a hybrid between soccer and rugby) but I thought Aussie football was a bit more mainstream.
by Michael White on Aug 30, 2011 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions
And it’s by Australians so it can’t be for nerds.
If we’re doing it for baseball:
-Get rid of divisions
-Top four teams in each league make it (Boston, NY, Texas, Tampa on one side Philly, Atlanta, Millwaukee, Arizona on the other)
-Two worst teams on each side play each other, loser is out (Texas v. Tampa, Milwaukee v. Arizona), while the two best teams play each other.
-The winner of the Texas/Tampa series plays the loser of Boston/NY, winner of Brewers/D-Backs plays loser of Philly/Atlanta
-Winner of those games play the winner of Boston/NY and Philly/Atlanta
-Winner of those games play in the world series
Simple, right?
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by regfairfield on Aug 30, 2011 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions
It adds a week.
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by regfairfield on Aug 30, 2011 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions
If you're going revolutionary
I like these suggestions, but I would consider going the extra step and eliminating the NL and AL altogether and having an MLB West and MLB East. 5 teams in CA in the same division along with Arizona, Seattle, et al.
by Michael White on Aug 30, 2011 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Running through the clubs
West:
Dodgers
Angels
Giants
Padres
A’s
Mariners
Rockies
Diamondbacks
Rangers
Astros
Cardinals
Royals
White Sox
Cubs
Twins
You don’t split up any rivalries (eg. Cardinals and Cubs still in same division) and you add a few new ones out West.
by Michael White on Aug 30, 2011 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions
That would destroy a great joke!
Right now, east is east and west is west and ne’er the twain shall meet, except in the NBA All-Star Game.
Totally ruins the joke if you have to add “and the World Series.”
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Aug 30, 2011 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Or consult this simple diagram!
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by regfairfield on Aug 30, 2011 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
and the Arizona Dodgers advanced the Arizona Rookie League Championship Game
since they won today
by Brandon Lennox on Aug 30, 2011 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
nope...Jackson lost
Webster vs. bauer is later tonight
by Brandon Lennox on Aug 30, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions
nice recap
I have other minor league stadiums I want to go to next year, but i do want to go back to the Lab at some point in the near future
Loved this
I love going to Minor League games. My wife is from up by Sacramento. If we ever move up there, the majority of my games will be at the Rivercats stadium
KCAL! FTMFW!
by robotmadeofnails on Aug 30, 2011 2:40 PM PDT reply actions
Songcooooooooooooooooo! made the AFL
Surprise, surprise!
http://mlb.mlb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?sid=l119&t=t_ros&cid=542
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
That list doesn’t make sense since it only shows Songco as the only Dodger.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
See above :-)
Not sure why he got put on a team away from his mates, poor Angelo…
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Oh and the rest of teh Dodgers are on the Salt River roster
http://mlb.mlb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?t=t_ros&sid=l119&y=2010&cid=527
Ames, St Clair, Fife, Wall, Lemmerman, Castle, Russell!
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
looks like they put him on the wrong team haha
unless he is the only player from the Dodgers organziation isolated on a separate team
by Brandon Lennox on Aug 30, 2011 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Arizona Fall League Rosters announced today
Dodgers on the “Salt River Rafters”:
Steven Ames
Stephen Fife
Cole St. Clair
Josh Wall
Griff Erickson
Late Night Lemmerman
Alex Castellanos
Kyle Russell
Why is Songco listed for the Surprise Saguaros?
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yeah has to be a mistake
also remember that this roster is subject to change, and always does prior to the start of the season
by Brandon Lennox on Aug 30, 2011 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions
They fear there's not enough room for the mighty bat that is Songco!
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Someone needs to start tweeting more often, speaking of which...
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Was hoping for Angel Sanchez or Scrapmetal from the Loons. Aren’t they allowed one A ball player?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
yeah they are allowed 1 player below AA i believe
but I think Lemmerman may fill that spot because I believe they don’t qualify as a AA player unless they are on the AA roster prior to August 1st, and I think Lemmerman was promoted a little later in August
by Brandon Lennox on Aug 30, 2011 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Wish Tolleson was there but other then that a nice group if Songco is indeed going.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
i like that Josh wall is going
I still think he has some potential as a reliever and maybe the AFL will get him to that next level
by Brandon Lennox on Aug 30, 2011 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Strasburg comes back and will face the Dodgers
September 6th.
I wonder what his pitch count limit will be. How many has he been throwing in the minors? Why don’t you go look it up. Ok, I will. Sorry, can’t find it. Fangraphs doesn’t have it listed. Well check somewhere else. Any good minor league sites around these here parts? :)
Game logs are coming once I figure out how much space they’ll take.
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by regfairfield on Aug 30, 2011 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Dodgers Lineup
Sellers SS, Loney 1B, Kemp CF, Rivera LF, Ethier RF, Miles 3B, Ellis C, Carroll 2B, Kuroda P
Padres Lineup
Venable CF, Bartlett SS, Guzman 1B, Blanks LF, Hudson 2B, Hundley C, Forsythe 3B, Cunningham RF, Stauffer P
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I was just bad
but our UCI team was competitive, and kept getting better after I played, even if the coach was… unpleasant. One of our coaches was a grouchy old man who had one glass eye named Glen. He was awesome.
BTW
BTW short of some other pitching moves
Kershaw’s starts in September
September 4 @ Atlanta
September 9 @ San Francisco
September 14 Arizona
September 20 San Francisco
September 25 @ San Diego
23-5 (counting his win in relief tomorrow)
by Eric Stephen on Aug 30, 2011 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Since 2008
Only Lincecum has more wins (8) than Kuroda and Bills with 7 each (Bills actually leads all pitchers since 2006 with 10 wins against the Padres). Kershaw picked up win number 6 last night.
Can anyone name what pitcher has the most wins against the Dodgers since 2008?
It is tricky but this does only include starters.
Baumgarner?
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by regfairfield on Aug 30, 2011 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Then I will go with Jhoulyis (SP?) Chacin
In a year that has been so improbable, the impossible has happened
Chacin
is correct.
His 6 wins are the most by any starter against the Dodgers until you get into the Jake Peavy dominance era.
Did that era actually end on September 18, 2006, or did it only end in spirit on that date?
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by Humma Kavula on Aug 30, 2011 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Not giving up runs against them seems to work most times, unfortunately.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 30, 2011 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Total guess
Aaron Cook?
In a year that has been so improbable, the impossible has happened
That name came to mind to me too.
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by regfairfield on Aug 30, 2011 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey fbihop
A belated thanks from me for this article. I enjoyed it.
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