A look back at Rubby's first start


On the night before Rubby De La Rosa was going to make his first start as a Dodger after three relief appearances an innocuous comment was made by Xeifrank asking for a guess on his pitch count. Joey Joe said 90 and then spent the rest of the night defending that number.

Many of us felt the number was crazy high and that his max count should be 75 given his last start came on May 21st and he had thrown a total of 70 since then and it was now June 7th.

Not only did Rubby throw 90 pitches, he threw 96. Every single person was wrong but Joey Joe. The only reason I bring this up is not to feed Joey Joe's ego but to remind us  that we all thought it would be crazy for management to let him have a pitch count >= 75, given he had not started since May 21.  Some felt less was warranted. The Dodgers let him throw 96. On July 30th, he blew out his elbow. One is probably not related to the other, but I don't have a problem with going back to the date of his first start and at least reading what we thought would be prudent at the time.

its reasonable for a guy throwing 90

by Joey Joe on Jun 6, 2011 10:38 PM PDT up actions  

It sucks that he is going to blow his arm out in his 2nd start

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 6, 2011 10:40 PM PDT up actions  

if he blows out his arm throwin 90 pitches

on a 10 day between start rest…then it just aint meant to be for the Dodgers.

by Joey Joe on Jun 6, 2011 10:41 PM PDT up actions  

He’s not gonna blow out his arm, but 90 pitches is highly unrealistic.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 6, 2011 10:42 PM PDT up actions  

we'll see...

Kershaw made i think 96 or so in his debut and he didnt have that much extra rest i dont think.

by Joey Joe on Jun 6, 2011 10:43 PM PDT up actions  

He was part of a regular rotation and made his debut on his normal rest period. As Eric noted below he has not made a start since May 15th

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 6, 2011 10:44 PM PDT up actions  

also didn’t work as a reliever for the two weeks prior. He started in the rotation on March 31.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 6, 2011 10:45 PM PDT up actions  

Mainly because the brass would not let it happen after his layoff from the rotation.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 6, 2011 10:43 PM PDT up actions  

I think you’ve probably never pitched passed Little League.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 6, 2011 10:45 PM PDT up actions  

this aint spring training

i dont think Rubby needs to build it back that much

by Joey Joe on Jun 6, 2011 10:47 PM PDT up actions  

Right, that’s why 75 is normal. 90 is a full workload.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 6, 2011 10:48 PM PDT up actions  

How has it only been 10 days since his last start?

and in his last start didn’t he only go like 3 innings? Its been weeks since he pitched more then 60 pitches

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 6, 2011 10:44 PM PDT up actions  

its been like 26 days since he pitched more then 3.2 innings

and his 2 starts after that where 3.2, then 2.0, then he got called up

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 6, 2011 10:46 PM PDT up actions  

60 is still kinda low. If he’s at like 65 I expect him to stop. If he’s at 60 I expect him to go another.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 6, 2011 10:47 PM PDT up actions  

if the Dodgers really only thought they could get 60 out of him

they wouldnt be having him start IMO.
Starting a guy on those constraints just doesnt make much sense to me.

by Joey Joe on Jun 6, 2011 10:49 PM PDT up actions  

I’d take 60 of Rubby De La Rosa and 60 of the bullpen for one start than 80 of John Ely and another short 40 from Rubby.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 6, 2011 10:50 PM PDT up actions  

Also, I’ve said 75 like, 4 times now. 60 is low, 90 is high, holy shit! 75 is in the middle.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 6, 2011 10:50 PM PDT up actions  

i'm on the high end

due to thinking he’ll be lights out

by Joey Joe on Jun 6, 2011 10:51 PM PDT up actions  

he can be as lights out as he wants

he ain’t going 90.

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 6, 2011 10:52 PM PDT up actions  

I almost want him to throw 90 now

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 6, 2011 10:55 PM PDT up actions  

my heel heat

is drawing in Phil.

I like it ;)

by Joey Joe on Jun 6, 2011 11:05 PM PDT up actions  

Need to be more specific: 75 pitch complete game, you mean. :-)

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Jun 6, 2011 10:53 PM PDT up actions  

I read this comment and my arm started to hurt. :(

Poor Deuce.

by Maddz on Jun 6, 2011 10:51 PM PDT up actions  

12-13 pitches an inning and eight strikeouts. The legend grows.

by Alex41592 on Jun 6, 2011 10:42 PM PDT up actions  

I doubt it

80

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 6, 2011 10:31 PM PDT up actions  

136 +/- 60

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

by G.Scott on Jun 6, 2011 10:31 PM PDT up actions  

Hasn’t failed me yet

by Eric Stephen on Jun 6, 2011 10:33 PM PDT up actions  

you did this better then me

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 6, 2011 10:46 PM PDT up actions  

I’m going to rec this so nobody has to fucking talk about this anymore.

by Alex41592 on Jun 6, 2011 10:47 PM PDT up actions  

Joey Joe thinks he knows better then well the world on this

so the facts aren’t going to get him stop running his mouth

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jun 6, 2011 10:49 PM PDT up actions  

You’re not helping! : )

by Alex41592 on Jun 6, 2011 10:51 PM PDT up actions  

I think Joey Joe is a bit misunderstood

since I’ve become active again here, he doesn’t seem like a troll, just someone who is not wildly optimistic of the Dodgers’ chances and likes the young players. So what if it’s not totally realistic, neither is the prediction of a sweep for the Dodgers in every series. I don’t think he should get crucified for it.

Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.

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