Matt Kemp & Clayton Kershaw Face Long Odds In Award Season
by Eric Stephen on Aug 31, 2011 10:38 AM PDT
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Matt Kemp and Clayton Kershaw face an uphill climb in these last four weeks of the season. Each are having award-worthy seasons, but the Dodgers have a losing record at 64-70. At the very least, even if Kemp or Kershaw don't win the National League MVP or Cy Young awards, just finishing among the top three would be quite an accomplishment.
Since the three-divisional era began in 1994, the same team has had someone in the top three of both MVP and Cy Young awards 33 times. Three times a team had the winner of both awards: the 2006 Twins (Justin Morneau, Johan Santana), the 2005 Cardinals (Albert Pujols, Chris Carpenter), and the 2002 A's (Miguel Tejada, Barry Zito). But more importantly, 30 of the 33 teams with a pair of top three finishers made the playoffs, and all but one team had a winning record.
| Teams with Top 3 MVP & Cy Young 1994-2010 | |||||
| Year | Team | Record | Playoffs | MVP | Cy Young |
| 2010 | Rockies | 83-79 | no | Gonzalez (3) | Jimenez (3) |
| 2010 | Yankees | 95-67 | yes | Cano (3) | Sabathia (2) |
| 2009 | Cardinals | 91-71 | yes | Pujols (1) | Carpenter (2), Wainwright (3) |
| 2007 | Angels | 94-68 | yes | Guerrero (3) | Lackey (3) |
| 2006 | Cardinals | 83-78 | yes | Pujols (1) | Carpenter (3) |
| 2006 | Twins | 96-66 | yes | Morneau (1) | Santana (1) |
| 2006 | Yankees | 97-65 | yes | Jeter (2) | Wang (2) |
| 2005 | Angels | 95-67 | yes | Guerrero (3) | Colon (1) |
| 2005 | Yankees | 95-67 | yes | Rodriguez (1) | Rivera (2) |
| 2005 | Cardinals | 100-62 | yes | Pujols (1) | Carpenter (1) |
| 2004 | Yankees | 101-61 | yes | Sheffield (2) | Rivera (3) |
| 2004 | Red Sox | 98-64 | yes | Ramirez (3) | Schilling (2) |
| 2003 | Blue Jays | 86-76 | no | Delgado (2) | Halladay (1) |
| 2003 | Giants | 100-61 | yes | Bonds (1) | Schmidt (2) |
| 2002 | A's | 103-59 | yes | Tejada (1) | Zito (1) |
| 2001 | A's | 102-60 | yes | Giambi (2) | Mulder (2) |
| 2001 | Mariners | 116-46 | yes | Ichiro (1), Boone (3) | Garcia (3) |
| 2001 | Diamondbacks | 92-70 | yes | Gonzalez (3) | Johnson (1), Schilling (2) |
| 2000 | A's | 91-70 | yes | Giambi (1) | Hudson (2) |
| 1999 | Red Sox | 94-68 | yes | Martinez (2) | Martinez (2) |
| 1999 | Braves | 103-59 | yes | C.Jones (1) | Millwood (3) |
| 1999 | Diamondbacks | 100-62 | yes | Williams (3) | Johnson (1) |
| 1999 | Astros | 97-65 | yes | Bagwell (2) | Hampton (2) |
| 1998 | Red Sox | 92-70 | yes | Garciaparra (2) | Martinez (2) |
| 1998 | Yankees | 114-48 | yes | Jeter (3) | Wells (3) |
| 1997 | Mariners | 90-72 | yes | Griffey (1) | Johnson (2) |
| 1995 | Mariners | 79-66 | yes | Martinez (3) | Johnson (1) |
| 1995 | Indians | 100-44 | yes | Belle (2) | Mesa (2) |
| 1995 | Red Sox | 86-58 | yes | Vaughn (1) | Wakefield (3) |
| 1995 | Reds | 85-59 | yes | Larkin (1) | Schourek (3) |
| 1995 | Braves | 90-54 | yes | Maddux (3) | Maddux (1), Glavine (3) |
| 1994 | Mariners | 49-63 | no | Griffey (2) | Johnson (3) |
| 1994 | Expos | 74-40 | yes | Alou (3) | Hill (2) |
The 2010 Rockies (Carlos Gonzalez, Ubaldo Jimenez), the 2003 Blue Jays (Carlos Delgado, Roy Halladay), and 1994 Mariners (Ken Griffey, Randy Johnson) are the only non-playoff teams of the bunch. There were no playoffs in 1994, but I'm counting a team's place at the end of the season. The 1994 Expos had the best record in baseball, so I'm counting them as a playoff team.
Those 1994 Mariners were the only one of the 33 teams with a top three MVP and Cy Young with a losing record. The 1995 Mariners (79-66 in a strike-shortened season) and 2006 Cardinals (83-79) were the only playoff teams playing at an under-90-win pace. The 33 teams had a cumulative winning percentage of .596, a 96-win pace over a 162-game season.
If the Dodgers manage to have Kemp and Kershaw finish in the top three in, or even win, their respective awards, while finishing with a middling record at best, it will be very rare.
Lineups
Eugenio Velez, 0-for-28 as a Dodger and 0-for-37 dating back to last season, gets the start at second base on waiver deadline day.
The Padres, who used four relievers to pitch 6 1/3 innings Tuesday night, recalled reliever Brad Brach from Triple A Tucson before today's game, optioning outfielder Blake Tekotte to make room. Center fielder Cameron Maybin, who had an MRI on his right wrist on Tuesday in San Diego, is back with the team.
| Padres | Dodgers | |||
| CF | Venable | SS |
Sellers | |
| 3B | Forsythe | LF |
Gwynn |
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| 1B | Guzman | CF |
Kemp |
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| LF | Blanks | RF |
Rivera |
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| 2B | Hudson | 3B |
Blake |
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| SS | Gonzalez | 1B |
Loney |
|
| RF | Cunningham |
C |
Barajas | |
| C | Johnson | 2B |
Velez |
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| P |
LeBlanc |
P |
Lilly |
|
Game Time: 12:10 p.m.
TV: Prime Ticket
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Sweet matchup! Gonna watch it on MLB.TV I guess.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
FUCK
"Pitching is the art of instilling fear."
by MammothDodger on Aug 31, 2011 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't quite get the Giants eating the rest of Rowand's contract now of all times
Tejada makes total sense, though it probably comes too late (and they should DFA Cabrera while they’re at it). But wasn’t Rowand a decent, by Giants’ standards, PH? I guess they wanted to give that prospect a shot.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
someone, quick
hide Ned’s phone!
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 31, 2011 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Hah. Well for minimum contract I wouldn't mind replacing Oeltjen or Velez with Rowand
but other than that have no use for the guy. And even Ned isn’t dumb enough to want Tejada in any way right now.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Velez is an infielder
And Rowand doesn’t look like much of an upgrade over Oeltjen. Trent’s had a much better year at the plate and Rowand would be relegated to a corner OF spot so you wouldn’t even get much defensive value out of him.
by Michael White on Aug 31, 2011 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Before Rivera showed up? At this point, he’s 6th on the OF depth chart behind the 3 starters (includes Rivera), Gwynn and Oeltjen. I think he’s only on the roster as a utility infielder and pinch hit extroardinaire.
by Michael White on Aug 31, 2011 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
just to argue...
44% of his career GP are in the outfield. and 2 of the 3 games were AFTER Rivera showed up
Mark Sweeney circa 2008
is the only major league baseball player who should always be referred to as “pinch hitter extraordinaire.”
by The Dude Abides on Aug 31, 2011 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah I was just rearranging useless parts.
Was just thinking Rowand would be better defensively than Oeltjen but maybe not enough. Basically, I’d have no interest in him.
Would rather Sands (and even Hoffmann) get PT in the OF anyway.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
the dodgers will finish the season with a winning record
Kemp will not win the MVP, even though he should. Kershaw could still win the Cy Young.
by stevesaxaphone on Aug 31, 2011 10:49 AM PDT reply actions
If the Dodgers finish the season with a winning record and Kemp keeps doing what he’s doing…. he will lock up the MVP.
cal. lakers. dodgers. packers. chelsea.
vols. rangers. galaxy.
Nice vacuum
you got going there
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Saying that about Kemp
without considering what the other contenders might do is living in a vacuum I think.
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Good point. Thanks for the reminder. What if it is assumed that every one of the contenders keeps on doing what they are doing?
cal. lakers. dodgers. packers. chelsea.
vols. rangers. galaxy.
Then Kemp is definitely
not a lock. I think winning teams carry much more weight for the voters. not guaranteed, but that’s the way I’d bet.
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
If you had told me that the Dodgers weren’t the worst team ever to have MVP/CY talent like Kemp and Kershaw, I wouldn’t have believed you.
And yet, look at those ’94 Mariners. 49-63, which is a 71-91 pace, saved only by the strike. Those are ugly times in the Puget Sound.
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
Was gonna say the 87 Cubs, but they weren’t all that awful.
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by regfairfield on Aug 31, 2011 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Prince and Braun will hurt each others chances.
Matt Kemp could win and it would help his cause if we can get to .500.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I assume since Keith Law dismissed the idea last night that Braun or Kemp are MVPs that Prince is his guy?
Wonder. Not sure why I care but I wonder.
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he did?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 31, 2011 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Yep. Though he doesn't seem to have someone else in mind, judging by these tweets
keithlaw keithlaw
How about neither? RT @Justinmillar1: @keithlaw Ryan Braun or Matt Kemp for mvp?
Not Prince either…
keithlaw keithlaw
Yeah, we can’t do that. RT @Daniel_DeRango: @keithlaw Prince Fielder (if we can overlook defense)
@keithlaw
I don’t care what you say. He’s not. RT @Joe_Hanrahan: Why not Braun? I don’t care what metrics say, he’s a very good left fielder.
keithlaw keithlaw
I don’t see a clear leader right now. RT @TylerJDavis21: @keithlaw so then who is your NL MVP?
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Is it just me... or is he overrating defense when picking MVP? Or maybe he's right...
…and it’s just that most other voters don’t care as much?
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
I mostly think he’s doing what he’s supposed to do, and not telling anyone who he’s voting for.
@RB_GScott
Yah maybe
Was just surprised, would almost think he’d be more pro-Kemp but whatever…
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Everyone overrates defense now
Offense wins games.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
...well, pitching wins games
But when it comes to position players offense wins games, lol.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Never said not important
Offense is just more important.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
You can’t lose if the other team doesn’t score.
And you can’t win if you don’t score.
Most important thing is moxy.
Does one team have better looking girlfriends? They are more confident and will probably win.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
by Ivdown on Aug 31, 2011 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
The old saying is that hitting wins games, pitching wins pennants.
But excluding fielding from that equation is a bit misplaced.
by Michael White on Aug 31, 2011 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Pennants win money, money wins hitting.
by WLPublic on Aug 31, 2011 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Long ball wins chicks
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
by mleadman on Aug 31, 2011 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Hitting wins women. Women win sex. Sex wins happiness. Happiness wins alcohol. Alcohol wins enlightenment.
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Aug 31, 2011 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Wasn't taking it completely out
Just saying that offense>defense when it comes to positional players.
Pitching wins games moreso though
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
I feel like defense gets weighed too heavily into WAR
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
So how heavily should it be weighted?
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by regfairfield on Aug 31, 2011 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
zero
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by meercatjohn on Aug 31, 2011 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m not going to claim i know, I’m just talking. But I would take Pujols, Youk, Fielder, David Ortiz, Carlos Gonzalez, Napoli, Berkman, Asdrubal Cabera, Konerko, Michael Young, and many others before I’d ever want Brett Gardener.
His bat doesn’t play better than Jamey Carroll, and his defense is not anywhere near the offense and (mostly negative) defensive value combined of the players I mentioned to me.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Aside from some nutso years fielding runs aren’t gonna exceed +30.
An elite season for batting is around +60 so offense is weighted more heavily.
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by regfairfield on Aug 31, 2011 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Which player was more important this year? All else being equal.
Player A:
Offense worth 0 wins above replacement
Defense worth 3 wins above replacement
Player B:
Offense worth 3 wins above replacement
Defense worth 0 wins above replacement
Obviously Player B since the defensive metric is a moving target in any one year while the offensive one is not.
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by meercatjohn on Aug 31, 2011 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Player B every time
I’ll take Brennan Bosch (1.8 WAR, negative defensive value) or Billy Butler (1.8 WAR, negative defensive value) over Tony Gywnn (1.8 WAR, negative offensive value).
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Votto? Tulo? Victorino? Upton?
I can see dismissing Braun off hand but not Kemp.
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by regfairfield on Aug 31, 2011 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Dammit :(
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by regfairfield on Aug 31, 2011 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Close it out 17-11
Totally doable
WGT
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by Humma Kavula on Aug 31, 2011 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Most anticipated call-ups
For me anyway:
1. Tolleson – Love high K relievers
2. Federowicz – Interested to see if his ABQ pop translates. Also intrigued by the D.
3. Sands – Maybe the shine isn’t quite there anymore but he’s got a new batting stance!
like BH said
might have to wait on Tolleson, as the Lookouts are in the playoffs.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 31, 2011 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Especially
since Lindblom was called up.
by bhsportsguy on Aug 31, 2011 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Why would Fed's AAA pop translate?
by SeanMillerSavior on Aug 31, 2011 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
maybe it would meet
somewhere in the middle of the two numbers reg posted
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 31, 2011 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions
That’s what I meant. Obviously he isn’t going to slug .700
by silverwidow on Aug 31, 2011 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions
where
is it at now?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 31, 2011 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Sheesh, he does?
In the outfield? Yikes, Tray.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Morbo says
UZR DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY!!!
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 31, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
PUNY HUMANS CANT BEGIN TO UNDERSTAND
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
fangraphs has trayvon at .2 and sellers at .7
b-ref has tryavon at .4 o-war sellers at .5 o-war
I think Tray is getting dinged a lot for his 3 errors
Terrible misplays (which is pretty much every outfield error) really kill you in UZR.
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by regfairfield on Aug 31, 2011 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Probably Sellers, but he’s going to get hurt with playing time and defensive value when Dee comes back.
by Michael White on Aug 31, 2011 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
I wonder if
MLBN will put more AFL games on tv, than just the AS game.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 31, 2011 10:55 AM PDT reply actions
I'm out of here for a couple days
as I go about the enjoyable process of moving. I’ll be back probably Friday or Saturday.
Go Dodgers!
Nothing is ever easy.
safe trip, stay away from the Grizzlies
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by meercatjohn on Aug 31, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
here's where Carroll is going :)
A club source tells MLB.com’s T.R. Sullivan the Rangers will “likely do something today.” In Sullivan’s opinion, the team’s biggest need is a right-handed bat.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 31, 2011 11:06 AM PDT reply actions
ha
when I think “Right handed bat” I think Jamey Carroll.
@RB_GScott
by G.Scott on Aug 31, 2011 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I know, right!!
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 31, 2011 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions
If it spins straight
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
by meercatjohn on Aug 31, 2011 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
For Chris Davis! Oh... wait.
/callback
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
they got rid of Navarro
what more do you want? :)
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 31, 2011 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Velez?
I say before his first at bat, they not only call him back from the warmup circle, they tell him to empty his locker.
cold blooded
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 31, 2011 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Aren’t you even a little curious to see how far this “0 for” streak can go?
by Michael White on Aug 31, 2011 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions
When Velez came up to bat with the bases loaded on Sunday, I honestly didn’t know what to feel.
That isn’t true. I was freakin’ pissed at Mattingly. Really, that’s where you’re gonna use Velez?
It isn’t Velez’s fault that he didn’t get a hit, though. That is what Velez does: not hit. Asking him to do differently… well, you might as well as a leopard to change its spots.
So the fact that Velez did not get a hit and kept the streak alive made me happy, but Mattingly still gets my wrath. Does that make sense? And if not, who cares! Like anything I say makes any sense.
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by Humma Kavula on Aug 31, 2011 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I propose a question
If you were managing the Dodgers, game 7, world series, bases chucked, 2 outs, bottom 14, down 1, pitcher’s spot, and you only had Velez and all the pitchers left on the bench, who would you use?
all the pitchers left on the bench
So, Loney started and went 14?
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Heard back from the Dodgers re: Songco. He is on Scottsdale due to positional needs, not because of some roster limit or players on one team or anything.
It's obviously Eveland
Fife is starting today (not that he anybody but me was considering him, haha). Antonini is the only other possibility.
by silverwidow on Aug 31, 2011 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
What does starting Eveland do for us? I assume he’s a free agent at the end of the year no matter what
by Michael White on Aug 31, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Every other starting candidate seems to be either at or near his innings limit. Eveland’s role is simply to play out the string. Also perhaps a bit of a atta boy for his good year in ABQ
by Eric Stephen on Aug 31, 2011 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions
It will probably be a mix of
Eveland and Ely for the remaining 4 starts in September
by bhsportsguy on Aug 31, 2011 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
Eveland is not a free agent
if the Dodgers put him on the 40-man roster. He only has 2.152 of MLB service.
He would have been a minor league free agent, tho.
by silverwidow on Aug 31, 2011 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Okay, this is also good info. Because assuming they add him, they effectively hold him hostage until the last day of cuts for spring training next year (like with Hector Gimenez)
by Michael White on Aug 31, 2011 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
But he is a Super Two
So they have to tender him first.
by silverwidow on Aug 31, 2011 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
Have to have 86 days of service time in the preceding year to qualify as a Super Two.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 31, 2011 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Eveland only needs 20 days of service time to have three full years of service, so he will still be arb eligible, but just as a 3-year player. But he’s still not going to make much.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 31, 2011 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
If Eveland gets on the 40 man roster, Dodgers control him for several more years. It allows them to see what he has at spring training next year and is a cheap 5th man option that can be cut at the end of spring training.
But as SW points out, that requires them to negotiate a new deal before the non-tender deadline or go to arbitration.
Can a player who goes thru arbitration be simply cut after spring training? With Repko they negotiated an out clause without going to arbitration, I assume that’s what they’d have to do here?
by Michael White on Aug 31, 2011 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions
TRIPON
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by meercatjohn on Aug 31, 2011 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Fun toy
Kershaw’s NL Triple Crown Rank score = 4.5 (Tied for first in wins, second in ERA, first in strikeouts)
Halladay’s Scores = 9.5 (Third in wins, third in ERA, tied for third in strikeouts)
At this point, it is a two pitcher race for the Cy Young award. And the fun part will be that both Kershaw and Halladay are lined up to pitch the same day for the rest of the season.
That's pretty cool
So we can match their lines up at the end of each night :)
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Indeed
And the fun part will be that both Kershaw and Halladay are lined up to pitch the same day for the rest of the season.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
Did this get posted before?
100 worst defenders ever:
http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?101277-Worst-Defending-HOFer&p=1821167#post1821167
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Without looking I hope Dr. Strangeglove is on that list just because he had the greatest name ever and was an ex Dodger who for some reason reason was one of my brothers favorite Dodgers in 66.
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by meercatjohn on Aug 31, 2011 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
Not on there
but Frank Howard is #19
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
He deserves it, he was the Adam Dunn of his time in both the outfield and 1st base.
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by meercatjohn on Aug 31, 2011 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
George is still in waders
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by meercatjohn on Aug 31, 2011 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Not to be smarmy but how in the world can they think they can accurately define a defensive metric when those people were playing? Simply ludicrous
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by meercatjohn on Aug 31, 2011 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
It’s not gonna be as good as what we can do now but Total Zone does compare pretty well to UZR.
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by regfairfield on Aug 31, 2011 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Peavy was punished for six 1st innings runs today in a must win game by a pathetic Twin lineup. He’s got nothing on DayTripping Lilly
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Hat Tip
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by meercatjohn on Aug 31, 2011 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Kershaw may not get as many 1st place votes as Halladay, but if he destroys him on 2s, who knows. It’s a 5-3-1 weighted ballot.
Like when Wainwright got more first place votes and lost a couple of years ago
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Three solos but we win 7 – 3
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by meercatjohn on Aug 31, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
two solos and the Dodgers win a 3-2 nailbiter
by Josie Becker on Aug 31, 2011 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
This guy is not good, Kemp will have three rbi’s all by himself.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
by meercatjohn on Aug 31, 2011 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
how often as a not good pitcher completely shut down the Dodgers?
by Josie Becker on Aug 31, 2011 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Since Navarro was released I’m going with never.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
by meercatjohn on Aug 31, 2011 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Since Sellers came up I’m going with never
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
by meercatjohn on Aug 31, 2011 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Since James Loney started hitting I’m going with never
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
by meercatjohn on Aug 31, 2011 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Since Andre called out management I’m going with never
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
by meercatjohn on Aug 31, 2011 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Since the last full moon, I’m going with never
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
by meercatjohn on Aug 31, 2011 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Since they removed Dee Gordon from the offense, I’m going with never
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
by meercatjohn on Aug 31, 2011 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
alright, you win, this is a completely different Dodger team
by Josie Becker on Aug 31, 2011 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Berkman
08.31: According to Joe Strauss of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, Lance Berkman told Cardinals general manager John Mozeliak that he would rule out re-signing with the team if he was traded to a contender. (And judging by Mozeliak’s comments Tuesday, it appears Berkman will get his wish. “We did have some teams inquire in the past week,” said Mozeliak. “I met with Lance and we talked about the situation. Ultimately, our goal is to have him back with us next year. Unless something comes along that absolutely blows us out of the water, I don’t see him going anywhere.” Albert Pujols will also be a free agent following the season and the Cardinals have to have to make decisions on the options for Chris Carpenter, Adam Wainwright and Yadier Molina, so keeping Berkman isn’t necessarily a given. The 35-year-old currently projects as a Type A free agent, so the Cardinals would receive two draft picks if he declines arbitration and signs elsewhere this winter.)
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
With no cultural hangups either. Berkman is so used to losing in the playoffs he doesn’t want to go through it again.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
by meercatjohn on Aug 31, 2011 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Kershaw and Halladay pitching schedule (actually just next 3 starts will be on same day)
Sunday September 4th – Kershaw @ Atlanta; Halladay @ Florida
Friday September 9th – Kershaw @ San Francisco; Halladay @ Milwaukee
Wednesday September 14 – Kershaw vs. Arizona; Hallday @ Houston
Monday September 19 – Halladay vs. St. Louis
Tuesday September 20 – Kershaw vs San Francisco
Saturday September 24 – Halladay @ NY Mets
Sunday September 25 – Kershaw @ San Diego
Kershaw has 3 road starts (2 in good pitcher’s parks); Halladay has 4 road starts
It is possible that Halladay will start a game just to sharpen up before the playoffs but he won’t pitch long enough to get a decision.
I was just saying that to my buddy
At home against Arizona and SF, he should rock those games!
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
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