Remaining Unsigned Picks from Dodgers 2011 Draft
by Brandon Lennox on Aug 5, 2011 10:01 AM PDT
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The 2011 Draft signing deadline is just 10 days away, so it's time to take a look at the Dodgers remaining unsigned picks and the likelihood of each one inking a deal.
Round 1: Chris Reed, LHP, Stanford - There hasn't been much news on the Chris Reed negotiations, but I'm betting that this deal gets done at the deadline. Reed has nowhere to go but down if he declines to sign, and the Dodgers would get killed if they fail to sign their 1st round pick after everything that has happened this year. Slot for the #16 pick is $1,512,000, and I say he signs for an even $1.5M.
Round 4: Ryan O'Sullivan, RHP, Oklahoma City University - The 20 year old brother of current Royal Sean O'Sullivan has not pitched in college for the last two seasons due to an elbow issue and then academic reasons, but I still thought he would have signed by now. I'm getting more and more skeptical as every day passes by because a good year in 2012 could probably move him into the top 3 rounds because when healthy, he is supposed to have better stuff than his brother. If I had to guess right now, I would say that he doesn't sign.
Round 6: Scott Barlow, RHP, Golden Valley HS - Barlow is playing on a summer team that is playing in the PONY World Series, and in a recent article I found it says that Barlow is "a Dodgers draft pick who will play for Fresno State". That doesn't necessarily mean he won't sign, but at this point it doesn't look too good. Barlow was only throwing in the upper 80's during high school and was a bit wild, so he'd be a bit of a project, but I still would like to get at least one high school arm in our system from this draft.
Round 9: Tyler Ogle, C, University of Oklahoma - I'm surprised the college junior hasn't signed yet because he had a solid season in 2011, and if he returns for his senior year he loses a lot of leverage. I did find this posted on a message board, however, "Hopefully the Dodgers can convince him to sign over pressure from his coaches and a girlfriend to come back to OU". Not sure how strong that pressure is, but I still say he eventually signs.
Round 10: Jamal Moore, LHP, Westchester HS - I can't find any news on Jamal "Baseball" Moore, but I'm betting that he signs at the deadline for a slightly above slot amount. I can't find any college commitment for him, and he seems antsy to get his baseball career started.
Round 13: David Palladino, RHP, Emerson HS - Palladino is a big 6'9" righty who was a great high school pitcher in New Jersey, and I really hoped the Dodgers would be able to sign him. However, reports are that he has already turned down an offer from the Dodgers and that he is going to attend the University of South Carolina Upstate in the fall. "As of right now, I'm going to college. I want to go to college and have the college experience. Then I'll have at least three more years [of] maturity, physically and mentally." Seems very unlikely the Dodgers will lure him away from his commitment.
Round 20: Vince Spiker, RHP, Johnson County CC - I can't find anything about which way Spiker is leaning, but I'm hoping he signs with the Dodgers. I've read he can get his fastball up to 96 mph and that he has a hard curve. I also can't find where he 4-year college commitment lies, so that is probably a good sign for the Dodgers.
Round 21: Zak Qualls, LHP, Rancho HS - I doubt that this high schooler signs, as he said after the draft that he plans on fulfilling his commitment to UNLV. “To be on the field with eight of your best friends, that’s going to be great. People are starting to realize that UNLV is going to be a good program.” He currently only sits in the mid 80's and his secondary stuff is still developing, so going to college will probably be best for him anyways.
Round 22: Kyle Conwell, OF, Bellevue CC - Conwell said he knew he was going to get drafted, but expected to go in the top 10 rounds. He hit .397 for Bellevue CC in 2011 with 4 homers and 38 RBI's, and led his team with a .491 OB%. Whether he signs or not depends on the offer he gets, and his quote in mid June was "I have options...I haven't gotten an offer yet. I'm waiting for that. I've got a full ride to Abilene Christian University in Texas, so, it's got to meet my financial needs for school and just after that. If it's not what I want, then I'm just going to go to school."
Round 25: Travis Burnside, OF, Spartanburg Methodist College - Right after the draft Burnside said that he was hoping to be a top 15 round pick, but was still excited to be drafted at all. He also said "I talked with their representatives today and they said they will call me in the next day or so. Then it will be time to sign or negotiate. I want to get going as soon as possible.” That quote was from June 8th, so obviously negotiations are going a little slower than he thought. He still has two years of college eligibility left, so it's almost a coin flip as to whether or not he will sign.
Round 27: Taylor Garrison, RHP, Fresno State - Right after the draft, Garrison said that he has every intention of signing so I'm surprised that he hasn't inked a deal yet. He was a college junior so he doesn't have much leverage, but he might sign for slightly more than your average 27th round pick because he threw 34 innings for the Bulldogs in 2011 and struck out 42 with a 1.32 ERA while walking just 10 batters all year.
Round 29: Joe Robinson, RHP, UNLV - I couldn't find much info on Robinson, but I'm guessing that he'll head back to college to work on some things as he only struck out 35 batters in 90 innings for UNLV in 2011.
Round 30: Adam McConnell, SS, Richmond University - McConnell missed the entire 2011 college season due to an upper leg injury, and with two years of eligibility left he'll most likely try and improve his draft stock with a healthy year in 2012.
Round 31+ :If a late round pick hasn't signed by now, they probably aren't going to. In looking through the 11 names that make up this group, it looks to me like only 41st rounder Casey Thomas (high school 2nd baseman from Arizona) is a possibility to sign because his dad is a scout in the Dodgers system and Thomas didn't have any college commitments lined up at the time of the draft.
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I always liked the thought of cutting down the nets.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 5, 2011 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions
Not a lot of guys left I care about them signing, to be honest
other than Reed, maybe O’Sullivan and Palladino…
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
This made me laugh for some reason
from gscott
I’d be double fisting and shaking my head.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
The 20 year old brother of current Royal Sean O’Sullivan
I read this and thought, Royal, what an interesting first name.
/duh
But Royal is a first name. Not a common one, but it’s there.
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by Humma Kavula on Aug 5, 2011 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions
I guess the lackey in charge of Stephen Colbert’s takeover of MLB’s Twitter account is waiting before providing the humor.
Seriously
These tweets are really dumb.
by Michael White on Aug 5, 2011 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions
I liked the randomness/surreality of one of the first ones but agree they have been disappointing.
Oh well, too busy keeping show itself funny I guess.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Hey Eric
Do you approve this cap?
On the one hand, it is all-black.
On the other hand, it is “100% the density of lead.” Think of the damage it could do to a kitten or a baby!
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Athletes will try ANYTHING to ge an edge
chemists have figured out the velvet from immature deer antlers includes insulin-like growth factor, or IGF-1, a precursor to producing human growth hormone. The antlers are harvested from young deer, ground up and packaged into spray form. The substance is sprayed under the tongue. One manufacturer touts among its benefits “anabolic or growth stimulation,” “athletic performance” and “muscular strength and endurance.”
by Eric Stephen on Aug 5, 2011 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
All I can think of is a potential commercial for the product, and I keep thinking back to “made with bits of real panther.”
by Eric Stephen on Aug 5, 2011 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions
The best part of that link is the “OMG STERIODS” lead article with the huge picture of A-Rod…
…because A-Rod’s gambling story is the second story, down the page.
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by Humma Kavula on Aug 5, 2011 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions
I remember hearing about football players using that.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 5, 2011 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Another nice pull from that article
One of Halladay’s goals is to finish the year with more starts than walks. He had done so once in a full season in Toronto (his Cy Young year of 2003). He did it last year for Philadelphia (33 starts, 30 walks and another Cy) and is doing it again this year (23 starts, 20 walks and possibly another Cy).
I’d check Halladay’s tongue for deer antler residue.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 5, 2011 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions
thats amazing
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Greg Maddux 1997-99: 96 starts, 71 walks.
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by Humma Kavula on Aug 5, 2011 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Sorry, that’s 95-97, not 97-99.
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by Humma Kavula on Aug 5, 2011 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Just looked up Halladay's contract
What the hell does this mean?
most favored nation no-trade protection
Maddux came close to more wins than walks twice (19 wins / 23 walks in 1995, 19 wins, 20 walks in 1997)
by Eric Stephen on Aug 5, 2011 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions
The list of more wins than walks (minimum 12 wins)
Rk Player Year W BB Age Tm Lg G GS
1 Bret Saberhagen 1994 14 13 30 NYM NL 24 24
2 Slim Sallee 1919 21 20 34 CIN NL 29 28
3 Christy Mathewson 1914 24 23 33 NYG NL 41 35
4 Christy Mathewson 1913 25 21 32 NYG NL 40 35
5 Deacon Phillippe 1910 14 9 38 PIT NL 31 8
Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Play Index Tool Used
Generated 8/5/2011.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 5, 2011 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Amazing stat from Saberhagen. He didn’t know what a walk was.
by Julio Nievas on Aug 5, 2011 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Too bad his period of brilliance was so short that he’s not often considered among the best of his time, because for a relatively short period he was absolutely awesome.
Isn’t Bret Saberhagen considered the Robert Altman of pitchers — a good year, then a bad year, then a good year, then a bad year……
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by Humma Kavula on Aug 5, 2011 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Ten pitchers this year have less than 40 walks while throwing at least 150 innings. Three pitch for the Phillies (Halladay, Hamels, Lee). Two for the Angels (Haren, Weaver).
Sounds like a monopoly to me. Congress! Where are those investigations when they’re really important?!
Rich Uncle Pennybags told them it was OK.
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by Humma Kavula on Aug 5, 2011 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
can we just get blood testing already?
please?
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Yes. Good hands. A little small though so he gets beat up a lot. Had a few concussions in the past.
Pretty much your standard pass receiving tight end. Not a world beater in run blocking but not bad either.
by Michael White on Aug 5, 2011 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions
because he is the best option they have?
Jason Campbell ain’t that bad
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Campbell’s not terrible if you give him the job and don’t jerk him around. Let her be the QB without switching it up a half dozen times a year.
by Michael White on Aug 5, 2011 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Boss Tweed? Why he runs Tamany Hall like it’s a casino hall.
by Josie Becker on Aug 5, 2011 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Is it accepted that BFDC was right
Squid was dead, just a nerve thing.
by Michael White on Aug 5, 2011 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions
I would have probably reacted to that in a fashion similar to the guy in the phone commercial who sees the spider pic on the other guy’s phone.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 5, 2011 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Who am I kidding? I probably would have reacted more like the woman.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 5, 2011 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
I wouldn’t scream, necessarily, but I would probably jump fourteen feet into the air.
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by Humma Kavula on Aug 5, 2011 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions
I'd probably end up knocking the whole darn table over
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
When we organize a TBLA basketball event
I want Air Humma on my team.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 5, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Better get a dead squid and some salt, too, then.
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by Humma Kavula on Aug 5, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions
The replies there are awesome
KCAL! FTMFW!
by robotmadeofnails on Aug 5, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Looks like Kevin is going to get us a field in Pasadena / Eagle Rock area
Food and softball.
Based on registered info and input info we should have a good group.
Ivdown, IIvdown, Maddz, G Scott, Michael, Brandon, GrimJack, HJ, Lex, Topdeck, Jrock
Eric, Aj, Julio, David Young, Josh, Taylor, Phil,Josie, Matthew(Nolij), Kevin, NoLander, Mintxcore, Nate
Aug 21st so far seems to be a good date.
Not sure if Nolander can make that date. Need to put pressure on Xeifrank and Reg
Looks like the 21st might be the best option.
Team One
Moderators:
Eric, Phil, Michael, David, Brandon, Xeifrank
+
Kevin, Maddz, HJ
against field?
IvDown, IIvdown, G Scott, GrimJack, Lex, Topdeck, JRock, Julio, Josh, Taylor, Josie, Nolij, Aj, Mintxcore
If Reg shows up he has to play for the moderators
Bhsportsguy has been silent, hope he plays, expect he is already doing a menu.
THis is fluid.
Just a suggestion.
Maybe we do go 35 over against 35 under
but that only works if HJ and Xeifrank show up, otherwise it would a mercy rule early.
Either way, should be a fun day of food and fun. Also bring some hardballs to see if anyone
can hit 93 down the middle.
Silverwidow where art thou?
Good time for some lurkers who think we are a bunch of nerds to show us what they got.
If I missed someone who has registered speak up.
For those on the list who have not registered with Kevin’s awesome data collector please do so. Even scadflies like Phil and Josh registered. Kevin for those who don’t know is Robotmadeofnails.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
Special thanks to pre adult Taylor for getting this started, for Kevin for kicking it into high gear.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
I'm not sure either!
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Good time for some lurkers who think we are a bunch of nerds to show us what they got.
But I am a nerd. In fact, I completely fit the profile. Tiny, can’t play, glasses, nerdy.
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by Humma Kavula on Aug 5, 2011 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions
The only way I don’t fit the profile is that I am actually married and have moved out of my parents’ basement.
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by Humma Kavula on Aug 5, 2011 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions
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by Humma Kavula on Aug 5, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Is it because of the child, or the effort of having 2?
I’ve got #2 on the way now so I’m wondering if it’s the same, better, or worse.
thanks dude
All that time you thought you were a great parent because of the first child is about to hit the fan
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
Right….that’s what I’m getting from everyone.
My daughter is an angel. She listens, is smart, a really good kid. Was a great baby. Once I moved her to her crib, she woke up 2 times during the night for the first year.
I have no chance with the second one, huh?
They call the second one the devil child for a reason. Families stop at two because they are afraid to spawn another one, or they quickly go to three to prove the 2nd one was a Brady Anderson.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
I am making all of this up
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
Usually, parents don’t get it absolutely perfect until child number five.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 5, 2011 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Mostly the efford of having 2. But Folly happens to be a lot more active than Spawn ever was, so she gets herself into all kinds of trouble that Spawn never did.
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by Humma Kavula on Aug 5, 2011 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions
Did we already know Mrs. Keith was prego?
Congrats man!
And apologies if we already knew and I forgot.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 5, 2011 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Mercy Mercy Mercy
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
Just buy a shload of pink stuff no matter what. If it’s a girl, great. If it’s a boy, he will learn to be tough. :)
by Eric Stephen on Aug 5, 2011 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Keith will need to get a scar on his cheek and an “evil eye”
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 5, 2011 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions
With the names my wife has come up with over the last couple of years, he’ll have to be tough.
I named the first one, she says she has all creative control of the name on this one.
smh
Do it! Do it!
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by Humma Kavula on Aug 5, 2011 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions
She SHH, looks at Keith and says, come on boy, you know this is as good as it is ever going to get for you.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
Van der Beek Cook doesn’t really sound all that bad. You’d just call him Van, it’ll be fine.
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by Humma Kavula on Aug 5, 2011 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Awesome, congratulations! (I just assumed I’d missed something during my absence.)
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by Humma Kavula on Aug 5, 2011 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Congatulations man
Conceived in the shower encounter?
/callback
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
prego
It’s in there!
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by Humma Kavula on Aug 5, 2011 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
That is because you, like me, are old enough to remember the commerical. Has that commercial been on in the past 15 years?
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by Humma Kavula on Aug 5, 2011 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
the 2003 ad I saw went with “Share what’s inside”
by Josie Becker on Aug 5, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
That’s also works for Bride of Keith’s bundle of joy!
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by Humma Kavula on Aug 5, 2011 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Prego sure likes to stay close to their market of people with wombs : )
by Josie Becker on Aug 5, 2011 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Of course. Who do you think buys the spaghetti sauce?
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by Humma Kavula on Aug 5, 2011 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Me, too
In my head, it always has to be said with some kind of Brooklyn Italian accent.
by TopDeckTrueBlue on Aug 5, 2011 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I might be crazy
but I want two kids and I want them not much more then a year apart.
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
You can have them even closer in age, but you have to use another woman.
My research has found that most wives aren’t as accepting of this plan as you’d think.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 5, 2011 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
It's the Izturis plan
Cesar: born February 10, 1980
Maicer: born September 12, 1980
by Eric Stephen on Aug 5, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions
I had no idea they were that close.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
It makes it easier for me to remember which parent the half brothers share.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 5, 2011 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions
The last name isn’t sufficient?
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
The father is the founder of one of those huge accounting firms?
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Used to be: it’s Arthur Andersen.
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The pea soup guy?
(Isn’t there still a Deloitte, Touche, … firm?)
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
maicer is much older then I realized
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Hopefully science will be able to give me twins
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Two fucking babies at the same time.
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by Humma Kavula on Aug 5, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions
I notice Josie didn’t touch this one.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
keep reading
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 5, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
On the one hand, this is fucking nuts. As somebody once said, twins should not be called “twins,” they should be called “twofuckingbabiesatthesametime.” And make no mistake, two kids about a year apart means two fucking babies at the same time.
That said, it’s probably easier once the kids are — oh, I’m gonna say, four years old. Scheduling, naps, food, all of that would fall into place easier than it would if you space them out by two years or more.
Still, even granting that second paragraph… I got a buddy — he posts here sometimes as Jim Billy 4 — with twins. He is maybe the most easygoing, relaxed, nonplussed person I know, but even he lost his temper with two fucking babies at the same time.
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by Humma Kavula on Aug 5, 2011 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Josie signal went up.
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by Humma Kavula on Aug 5, 2011 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions
I believe you were not attacking the etymology of the word twins, but the reality that saying twins masks the reality of “holy shit, not just one baby but two” and that having two kids within a two year space creates the same exact phenomenon
by Josie Becker on Aug 5, 2011 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
That’s right.
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by Humma Kavula on Aug 5, 2011 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
but then they will be able to entertain themselves together!
it worked with my dogs, why not with humans?
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Nonplussed does not mean easygoing and relaxed. Far from it. It’s the more common and less extreme form of discombobulated.
it seems to mean two completely opposit things
non·plussed
adjective /nänˈpləst/
(of a person) Surprised and confused so much that they are unsure how to react
- he would be completely nonplussed and embarrassed at the idea
(of a person) Not disconcerted; unperturbed
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
of course the 2nd one is only listed in googles dictionary
and not anywhere else
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Hmmmm. I have never, ever seen that second meaning used until now. I am obviously not with it but an old fogy. Or non-googly (which means something completely different in cricket, by the way).
Here's the OED. Quoting:
1 so surprised and confused that one is unsure how to react:
Henry looked completely nonplussed
2 North American informal not disconcerted; unperturbed.
Usage
In standard use nonplussed means‘ surprised and confused’, as in she was nonplussed at his eagerness to help out; . In North American English a new use has developed in recent years, meaning ‘unperturbed’ — more or less the opposite of its traditional meaning — as in he was clearly trying to appear nonplussed. This new use probably arose on the assumption that non- was the normal negative prefix and must therefore have a negative meaning. It is not considered part of standard English
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by Humma Kavula on Aug 5, 2011 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions
So, considering I’m making an offhand comment on a blog in North America, we’re both right! :-)
However, I would do well to remember the standard definition. Thanks for that.
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by Humma Kavula on Aug 5, 2011 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions
I have been using nonplussed incorrectly my whole life. This must come as a great shock to most of you.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
I'm nonplussed
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
I am
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
That’s putting Descartes before the horse.
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by Humma Kavula on Aug 5, 2011 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
it’s a latin phrase – non plus – meaning no more or no further. If you’re nonplussed , you’ve reached your absolute limit and can only react by not reacting.
For this reason, in NA vernacular it’s also come to mean calm as a cucumber, same result, different temperment
by Josie Becker on Aug 5, 2011 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes, that’s the derivation. Thanks.
I wouldn’t say so much “same result, different temperament” as “same external behavior” namely not overreacting; “different internal emotions” and reasons, one being so bewildered that action is stymied, the other being laid back and unperturbed, no action needed or contemplated.
Not incorrectly. You have been using the North American informal definition. Unless you have been writing formal papers, you’re fine.
Language is as language does, as Forrest Gump’s mother didn’t say.
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by Humma Kavula on Aug 5, 2011 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Nope, still been using it wrong, as I thought nonplussed was someone who never got excited while everyone else around them was going loony bins, not someone who simply has been overwhelmed and is no longer able to react emotionally.
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You have been using the informal definition correctly.
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by Humma Kavula on Aug 5, 2011 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions
but the informal def only exists because people who don’t know the latin phrase and want to look smart use a big word they don’t understand
by Josie Becker on Aug 5, 2011 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Josie, when people use “nonplussed” to mean “unperturbed,” do you understand them?
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Aug 5, 2011 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions
in context sure, but I want to correct them
by Josie Becker on Aug 5, 2011 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
But Josie — if you know what they mean — if their meaning is coming through to you loud and clear — then they are using the word correctly. There is no conflict. Why correct them? What’s in it for you?
Berkowit’s point is different. Not knowing the informal usage caused conflict, and that’s why we’re having this conversation, and — at least in my opinion — we’re both richer for it.
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Aug 5, 2011 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Right
Hangs head
Shovels his feet home to the lazy chair of life that awaits him in the garage.
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(sad Charlie Brown piano plays in the background)
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 5, 2011 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Naw, I’m gonna come to your side on this one, Phil.
I see all the time people getting upset over misplaced apostophes, misspellings, pluralizations, etc. I used to get upset about that stuff, too.
Then I realized that life is too short. Now I ask myself, one question: is the writer’s meaning understood? If so, who cares if they pluralize a word with an apostrophe-s? You know it’s “not correct,” I know it’s “not correct,” but I know well enough what they mean. So what’s the big deal? Now I try to let it go.
If, say, I’m going to print a sign, I’m going to try to get it right — just because I’m embarrassed for my own sake. But I do that for my own, personal satisfaction with my work.
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by Humma Kavula on Aug 5, 2011 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I suppose
some people can’t stand what they see as carelessness. I was a journalist so I can’t accept submitting mistakes and thus edit as I write, it’s just ingrained in me at this point. But that’s me.
I let it go too, unless someone is so bad it looks like a drunk person texting somebody, then it gets oppressive to read.
I think you should put some effort into writing something for public consumption, but I’m not strict about it anymore.
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I get that, and I dig it. And you’re right to point out that there is a limit to it — are we talking about a typo here and there, or is it so bad that the writer (or speaker) can’t make themselves understood?
A good example, to me — not to get political, but here we go — is one particular Sarah Palin quote from a while back. She used the word “refudiate.” Many people who can’t stand Palin laughed at her for this one. But I thought it was a hell of a portmanteau. I think everyone reading that knew what that word meant — refute and repudiate. If you know what she means, what’s the big deal?
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by Humma Kavula on Aug 5, 2011 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
So I’m going to come in with Josie, somewhat, on this one. When I’m reading along, and I hit a word whose syntax is out of whack – which can often be caused by a misspelling that turns it into another word (my current favorite: “where” for “were”), I suddenly come to a juddering halt. For a few moments I’m thrown out of whack – “Wha??? What the hell is s/he talking about? Who, what, where??…Ah, OK, just that stupid misspelling again…”
At such times (which occur every day), I wish that people were more careful so that their meaning were clear and I didn’t get nonplussed, yet again, like Charley Brown and the football taken away. Clarity is a great thing, since you then don’t upset people reading you. In the end, of course, reading a casual blog, this is still going to happen to me dozens of times; and I cause such problems too since my typing is really bad.
There’s something newish in the world, which is auto-correct. Often our computers’ built-in spell-checks auto-correct our mistypings and poor spellings. And often is guesses wrong (based, no doubt, on word frequency, since it doesn’t really see into our minds). It will change a misspelled word into the wrongh word, with the wrong syntax, and probably causes me more discombobulations than if the word was just left misspelled, where I would easily know what the writer meant.
OK, enough for now. (Too much.)
I did not know the word “judder” before I read this comment, so thanks for that. I must point out that at the Merriam-Webster on-line dictionary, it is noted to be “chiefly British”, so Josie must have liked it as well.
Personally, I do find it mildly annoying when a word colloquially takes on a meaning that is the opposite of its original meaning, because it causes confusion. Sometime the context just doesn’t allow you to infer which meaning was meant.
Of course, I grew up in the era where “bad” started to mean “good”, so I am not pedantic about such things, or at least try not to be.
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never heard of
portmanteau either, and I studied French!
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Lewis Carroll coined that. Check out The Annotated Alice by Martin Gardner. It’s amazing.
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that would make sense
Carroll was a gem of a thinker, thanx for the tip.
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the big deal is that words have roots and refudiate is just sounds that implicate a thing.
Joss Whedon created words on Buffy all the time, to sound like youth slang. Dollsome springs to mind. I’d say they’re fun, but I wouldn’t put them in something I wanted others to read
by Josie Becker on Aug 5, 2011 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
you dont like it when i
type like this with no pauses or capitalization when i talk about things and stuff and go on and on and on
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
that didn't come out as shitty as I wanted it to
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Huh. I stand corrected.
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by Humma Kavula on Aug 5, 2011 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
For what it’s worth, the other word I use incorrectly all the time is “boondoggle.”
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by Humma Kavula on Aug 5, 2011 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m curious how you misuse it, and I wonder if bothering to tell him is also a boondoggle. I also had no idea that boondoggle also means
a braided cord worn by Boy Scouts as a neckerchief slide, hatband, or ornament
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Still waiting to hear back from Eagle Rock Rec. It is not possible to reserve a field in Pasadena if it is not more than 30 days out. Nothing is scheduled for those weekends, so we just need to make sure no big event at the Rose Bowl, and then we would need to chase out the Ultimate Frisbee players that like to take up both outfields (they piss me off)…or we could just do Eagle Rock. They have 3 fields and it is generally empty, so we could have our pick I bet. We could just do a potluck to make it easier than having to BBQ.
KCAL! FTMFW!
by robotmadeofnails on Aug 5, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Plan on without me, but I could be a game time decision. A bit of a drive for me, but the lure of softball and food is strong. I could anchor the old guys infield at SS if I made it. Not that I am old. :)
Four more added
Eric Stephen Sunday August 21st, Sunday August 28th C, 1B, 3B Under 40
Brandon Lennox Sunday August 21st 1B, 2B, LF, CF, RF Under 40
Julio Nievas Sunday August 21st All Under 40
Jack (Grimjack) Sunday August 14th, Sunday August 21st, Sunday August 28th 1B Under 40
KCAL! FTMFW!
by robotmadeofnails on Aug 5, 2011 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions
One more (at 13 now)
We go another over 40
TopDeck (Jonathan) Sunday August 21st, Sunday August 28th 2B, SS, Rover Over 40
KCAL! FTMFW!
by robotmadeofnails on Aug 5, 2011 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions
all those names were already in my list, so not really anyone new yet.
Based on registered info and input info we should have a good group.
Ivdown, IIvdown, Maddz, G Scott, Michael, Brandon, GrimJack, HJ, Lex, Topdeck, Jrock
Eric, Aj, Julio, David Young, Josh, Taylor, Phil,Josie, Matthew(Nolij), Kevin, NoLander, Mintxcore, Nate
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Awesome
I don’t know if we really will hear back from any parks about this in time. So, it might be best to just say let’s meet at such and such a place to play. We could start at the Rose Bowl and Eagle Rock Rec is only 3 -5 minutes away.
KCAL! FTMFW!
by robotmadeofnails on Aug 5, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
And Brookside park is near the rose bowl too.
by Taylor Maricle on Aug 5, 2011 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Yea, Brookside 3 (near the pool) is where we would start
KCAL! FTMFW!
by robotmadeofnails on Aug 5, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Brandon
this draft still looks lousy.
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I agree
I like with McGough, Anton, and Dickson are doing, but will any of them every be MLB regulars? and Alex Santana is still a huge question mark
by Brandon Lennox on Aug 5, 2011 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions
As I was walking to my office this morning
I thought to just the first round picks in the Logan White era:
2002 – James Loney
2003 – Chad Billingsley
2004 – Scott Elbert, Blake Dewitt
2005 – None
2006 – Clayton Kershaw, Bryan Morris
2007 – Chris Withrow
2008 – Ethan Martin
2009 – None
2010 – Zach Lee
On the one hand 5 are currently on active rosters and the other 4 are still on minor league rosters but again what you are looking at is one Ace, one solid starter, one reliever possible LOOGY, and two bench players. Of the minor leaguers, right now, you think they all get a shot at the majors but don’t know as what yet.
Disagree with your assessment of Bills. Even if he’s no more than a 3 at this point, that’s still a huge success.
How dare BH call Bills a “solid starter”?
Was what I took from Silverwidow’s comment.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 5, 2011 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
All-star at 24. Still barely 27. Solid seems exceedingly conservative.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Solid
career FIP/xFIP: 3.64 / 3.94 per fangraphs. Career ERA+ of 112 per b-r.
He could be more, but so far, solid sounds about right.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Come on, you take Kershaw out of the equation and that is sorry ass shit for that number of number picks.
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I don’t know, is it? Seems better than his predecessors.
by Michael White on Aug 5, 2011 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
comparing solid shit to soft shit is still shit.
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We should look at what his peers have done in the same time period.
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And while picking in similar positions. I imagine the success rate in the top half of the first round is much better than the bottom half, where most of Logan White’s picks have been. And we don’t now how restricted White has been or not been with regards to going overslot. Obviously he did for Zach Lee, but maybe he was constrained other years.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
How does that compare with the rest of the league?
by Michael White on Aug 5, 2011 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
don't like 1/3 of first round picks never play a single inning in the majors?
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solid shit to soft shit
Take it to yesterday’s shit thread.
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by Humma Kavula on Aug 5, 2011 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Yesterday was a banner day for TBLA.
I’m shocked it didn’t make SBNation’s “Best of the Blogs”
by Michael White on Aug 5, 2011 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I found myself
reading through comments at 2 AM on pissing and shit and spitting on dicks.
/Signs that I need a social life.
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yeah but one is high fiber and the other eats too much dairy
by Josie Becker on Aug 5, 2011 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I said
solid, is that bad in some way. Also if you look below, I still say because of the combo of he and Kemp, that was the best draft White has had in his time with the Dodgers.
Damning with faint praise, IMO. Not saying some of it isn’t deserved, but this guy has a really good track record overall.
But we are only talking about his number one picks not his entire track record.
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Look, when Valerie Simpson said Nickolas Ashford was solid as a rock, that was a GD compliment
by Eric Stephen on Aug 5, 2011 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
4th and 6th rounders look terrible
and more terrible if they don’t sign.
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Any idea how old Barlow is?
I was 17 when I graduated high school, so if he’s young they could have seen him as projectible. He went in the 4th round for a reason.
by Michael White on Aug 5, 2011 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Barlow was the 6th rounder
born 12/18/92 so he’s 18…O’Sullivan will be 21 in exactly a month.
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Yeesh, so he’s actually an old senior. Nevermind.
by Michael White on Aug 5, 2011 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
catwoman riding the batcycle?
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
NAILED IT!
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
So no news on who starts tomorrow yet? Has Eovaldi tweeted that he’s flying somewhere? At this point if he’s going to pitch tomorrow he has to have already gotten started heading to Arizona doesn’t he?
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you would think so
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
They never mention a dude’s name when he’s not on the 40-man until they have to. I’m sure we will find out after the game, officially.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 5, 2011 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m not sure what the reason would be; perhaps it’s procedural, or perhaps it’s because talking about a future roster addition means one of the current 25 will soon be gone.
But they always avoid it like Steve Sax didn’t want to touch Kirk Gibson until after he touched the plate in 1988.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 5, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh, I understand the Dodgers not saying anything, but in todays world of instant communication I would think the people of the Lookouts would know if Nathan is headed to LA and one of them would have let it slip.
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We talked a little bit on blogger night about athletes and Twitter accounts, and Rawitch said the team doesn’t care if they use social media, and the only thing they don’t want players doing is breaking news before it’s official (i.e. Javy Guerra mentioning on Facebook, though he wasn’t specifically brought up)
by Eric Stephen on Aug 5, 2011 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
FWIW Alvin High School’s baseball website seems to think Eovaldi starting Saturday is a done deal, though it doesn’t seem like they would know first.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 5, 2011 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Ned Colletti screams, “Aaaaaaaaallllllllllllllllllllllllllllllviiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnn!!!”
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Aug 5, 2011 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Why do we all think this?
Ely is a starting pitcher who is with the major league club. There’s no smoke here suggesting we should be looking for a fire.
by Michael White on Aug 5, 2011 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
-They haven’t commited to Ely starting which is a bit odd
-They had pushed Eo’s last start back to a date that coinceded with Kuroda’s spot in the rotation back when they where trying to trade him. Could just be coincidence.
-Eo is awesome.
-The team sucks and is out of it so why not?
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
For me the smoke is Donny not committing to Ely on Saturday. Why not commit unless some other option is going to be used?
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Thanks guys.
I guess I wasn’t aware that D2X was being non-commital about Ely’s role.
by Michael White on Aug 5, 2011 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions
All 3 beat writers wrote about it on Tuesday
Tony Jackson
Ken Gurnick
Dylan Hernandez
Some reasonably vanilla stuff there, but Tony Jackson has been more adamant on Twitter about it than in his ESPN articles.
Gurnick has a few excerpts that swayed me:
Mattingly said that John Ely, promoted from Triple-A Albuquerque Monday when De La Rosa was placed on the disabled list, would pitch out of the bullpen and apparently not be considered for a start. Ely had started exclusively for Albuquerque.
Also:
Eovaldi conveniently started on Monday, so a Saturday start would be on his regular five-day cycle. Another indication that it will be Eovaldi is that he had previously been pushed back in the Chattanooga rotation to coincide with Hiroki Kuroda’s day to pitch, presumably so Eovaldi could have been the replacement if Kuroda been traded.
Hernandez had this:
But Colletti said he would be open to rushing a top pitching prospect to the majors, as De La Rosa was this season.
Jackson is close with DeJon Watson, and Gurnick is usually pretty good about getting the info, i.e. it’s not just idle speculation.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 5, 2011 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I totally bolded the wrong part of that quote. Oh well.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 5, 2011 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Quick things
Unfortunately I am likely to be out of town that Sunday, have fun.
Congrats Keith, I hope this new addition does not delay your trip back to LA.
Since she is a favorite of some here - some Zooey updates from Jon Weisman at the Television Critics panel
dodgerthoughts Jon Weisman
@
@stevedilbeck you know, she acted embarrassed and thanked the reporter for the compliment, in an adorable way.
34 minutes ago
dodgerthoughts Jon Weisman
Paula Abdul’s hometown on X-Factor one-sheet listed as “San Fernando Valley, CA.” #tcas11
1 hour ago
dodgerthoughts Jon Weisman
Zooey just got asked, “When did you first know you were adorable?”
1 hour ago
dodgerthoughts Jon Weisman
RT @HitFixDaniel: Zooey Deschanel is sitting w/her hands daintily in her lap as if waiting to be asked to dance. In 1955. #TCAs11
1 hour ago
dodgerthoughts Jon Weisman
Zooey asked to name her favorite downtown spots. She starts with Disney Hall and Chinatown dim sum. And hoping that’s the end of that.
1 hour ago
dodgerthoughts Jon Weisman
Fox day at #tcas11 – about 10 minutes until we bask in the glory of Zooey Deschanel in the #newgirl panel.
I applied to be in the TCA
didn’t make it, though I guess I still coulda applied for a credential to the TCA’s, but it’s like two weeks of these all day tours
by Josie Becker on Aug 5, 2011 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Off the top
Rankings of White’s drafts
1. 2003
2. 2006
3. 2002
4. 2008
5. 2010
6. 2004
7. 2009
8. 2005
9. 2007
For old time Ram's fans
Bernie Miklasz
Deacon Jones on Marshall Faulk: “I know one thing, I wouldn’t have wanted to chase his (tail) all over the field.”
Faulk is being inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame this weekend.
You’re a UCLA guy.
I still contend that the vicious hit Shaun Williams put on Faulk is what ended his career. Williams also ended Ed McCaffrey’s career.
by Michael White on Aug 5, 2011 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Do you remember the hit I’m talking about? I don’t remember either the McCaffrey hit or Faulk hit being cheap or borderline.
Shaun Williams was one of the best tacklers I’d ever seen. It seemed tackling was as natural to him as walking. Was a huge fan.
by Michael White on Aug 5, 2011 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Marshall Faulk went to SDSU, n’est-ce pas?
by Josie Becker on Aug 5, 2011 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
they’ve been showing some of his best games on ESPN Classic.
by Josie Becker on Aug 5, 2011 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Faulk must be the centerpiece of this year’s HoF class, I haven’t heard about anyone else that made it
by Josie Becker on Aug 5, 2011 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions
2011 Class
Richard Dent – Defensive End
Marshall Faulk – Running Back
Chris Hanburger – Linebacker
Les Richter – Linebacker (Cal graduate)
Ed Sabol – contributor NFL Films
Deion Sanders – Defensive Back
Shannon Sharpe – Tight End
Looks like a hell of group to me.
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Is Marcus Allen in?
Fairly certain most of disgust with the Raiders falls with how he was treated.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
I did once upon a time.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
he will get in eventually. i am not very passionate about this. although he was my favorite player ever.
Eventually
was in 2003.
Marcus’s father introduced him somewhat breaking the tradition of having Al Davis introducing any player with Raider ties going into the HOF.
Richter is from back when Cal did things like go to the Rose Bowl : )
by Josie Becker on Aug 5, 2011 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Dion Sanders says
“HHEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Shannon Sharpe is a huge name also
and he will tell you himself if he gets a chance. Cause he likes to talk you seee
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Had a Tommy Burger Lunch Truck at work today
for Free!!
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 5, 2011 12:27 PM PDT reply actions
I hate Tommy Burgers as much as you hate Dr. Pepper.
by Eric Stephen on Aug 5, 2011 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions
it’s the “Tommy” isn’t it?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 5, 2011 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
didn’t get chili on mine
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 5, 2011 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I have ordered their burgers without chili, and they just seemed ordinary (though better than a standard fast food fare).
by Eric Stephen on Aug 5, 2011 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions
just add chile peppers and problem solveD!!!
by Julio Nievas on Aug 5, 2011 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
on the serious? But that chili is magnanimous. And the lines! Lines can’t be wrong!
by Josie Becker on Aug 5, 2011 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Lines can’t be wrong!
unless they’re out in the open at illegal poker games
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 5, 2011 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I believe you are using magnanimous incorrectly:
1: showing or suggesting a lofty and courageous spirit <the irreproachable lives and magnanimous sufferings of their followers — Joseph Addison>
2
: showing or suggesting nobility of feeling and generosity of mind
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
sure, tis what I get for showing off. Meant magnificent, obv.
by Josie Becker on Aug 5, 2011 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I had their cheddar apple bacon thing. Cheese wasn’t melted.
by Josie Becker on Aug 5, 2011 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I was surprised. I go to Meltdown Comics, stand in line to get a grilled cheese, and they don’t even melt it. Like, it was tasty, the flavors worked, but no
shoulda taken that shit back
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Grilled Cheese = bread that has been placed on the grill to 1. toast the bread, and 2. MELT THE CHEESE. If part 2 has not been achieved all that you have is a “sandwich” with cheese.
Even though I’ve had a great lunch I’m now hungry for a grilled cheese. And ice cream but that is always the case.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
query
Joy of Cooking suggests putting mayo in your grilled cheese after the cheese is melty. Anyone done this?
Tommy's
is one of those things you do because it is sort of venerable, in an LA way, but you really aren’t impressed. See also: Tito’s Tacos, The Pantry. Plaschke would put Dodger Stadium in this category.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I enjoy the Pantry
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Maybe, but it is always filled with people your age having a good time, eating lots of food, and helping heart doctors stay busy.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
The food was pretty mediocre. Haven’t been there in years though. Don’t imagine anything has changed though.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
More a fan of the atmosphere
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
Something I still like about sitting at a busy counter, watching my bacon cook in front of me, as the waitress tends to 10 people at a time whirling around the cooks, making small talk with everyone.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
Aren’t there several old-style places like that around where that can be done?
And delias man may be right – that does sound like something an old guy would like doing, though I must admit, I can understand the appeal. I do like the counter myself, esp when it’s just you and the newspaper.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
You are wrong re: Tito's.
Agree about Tommy’s and Pantry (and Apple Pan)
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Obvi this is all eye of the beholder stuff. Some people absolutely hate El Chollo and put it on this list, but I don’t mind eating there at all. Some would put reading the LA Times into this category.
To each their own, I say!
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
El Chollo food is fine, but unspectacular. The margaritas are top-notch, though.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
I misspelled it, didn’t I? Should be El Cholo with one ‘l’. I still say it’s a good place to take tourists. I always laugh at a certain picture on their wall. It is inscribed with something like “Congratulations to the second best restaurant in Los Angeles on their N years. Richard Riordan.” The photo is of The Pantry, of course.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
the lunch was.
Employee appreciation day
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 5, 2011 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions
we got kogi truck awhile back for that
was my first time ever having it cuz Im too lazy to figure out where these trucks are located and I refuse to use twitter..
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Aug 5, 2011 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions
I’d forgotten who Joey Ballgame was.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
If we want to talk about a bad run of drafts…
by Eric Stephen on Aug 5, 2011 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
He was the 2nd base "Solution" before The Solution!
And… {deflated balloon sound}
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Ridic comment?
Who will have the better OPS+ in the AL between Colby Rasmus and Trayvon Robinson?
Everything would point to Colby but after 30 at bats with the Blue Jays he’s hitting .167
Is Colby going to turn into Ben Grieve?
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
Stranger things have happened in short periods of time, but long term I’d bet on Colby all day.
"Fast just got Faster"
Yes, just meant for 2011
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
also referring to an old thread
Yes, most definitely Requiem for a Dream is the most disturbing film I’ve seen. I’m a film nut so I’ve probably seen thousands of movies ranging from the silent era to the present….I just wanted to take a shower after that movie.
Only one that I can think of that comes close is Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
NO!
I hear it’s a mindfuck, I still have to see that. I’m too poor for even Netflix alas.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
I never understood the fascination with that film.
Maybe one or two odd scenes could be seen as disturbing by some. But overall, the movie is a bore.
Maybe one of my least favorite movies that I wasted so much time watching.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
Philip Seymour Hoffman
playing with his poo didn’t entertain you??
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That movie was popular in high school. I don’t know why
by Julio Nievas on Aug 5, 2011 1:16 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
nowdays though
Connely has made so many movies, and taken off her top in pretty much all of them, that you don’t have to depress yourself to see them.
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
I have the disk for it from Netflix
somewhere in my house. If I can find it I’m going to watch it tomorrow.
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
have yet to see that too
saw his most recent film, it was…not one I’d see again, but I appreciated it.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
I’m still going to stand by The Blue Angel.
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
If not for the Blue Angel I would have become intoxicated with the tendrils of love offered by Mary Mayhem, and found myself living under the pier muttering to tourists as they dodge us as though we were lepers.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
Also
Don’t Look Now is certainly chilling, but not disturbing in the sense that no movie depicts a slow descent into hell like Requiem does for me. It’d make a great anti-drug, scared-straight-type film for teenagers.
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Also, Donald Sutherland and Julie Christie are really doing it in that movie, so there’s that!
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
TANSTAFL
There ain’t no such thing as free love.
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
Don’t ask me. I’m a tiny, ugly, half-blind nerd.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
Oh, I forgot: I also don’t know how to talk to girls, and on the occasion that I HAVE spoken to girls, they have been repulsed by what I have had to say.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
I would love to have been a fly on the wall when you hooked Bride. That would have benn some conversation.
Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.
It was basically this: We already spend all of our time with each other. Why don’t we fuck?
And she didn’t have a good answer.
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
That was never confirmed, was it? If it did happen, that’s a win for the Donald, for sure.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
the donald denies it
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
That is what a gentleman does. Otherwise, it’s — er — kissing and telling. You don’t do that.
Donald knows what really happened, and that’s good enough for him.
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
Are you Julie Christie?!
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
I guess I’m going to have to break my cover, FWIW,
In my real life, I am, or was, a classical pianist. (At the moment, for my sins, I have taken on a mostly administrative job at the university where I teach, so I’m not doing any playing. That should finally end in a year, not a minute too soon.)
OK, so back then (early 1980s?), I was living in London, UK, eking out some sort of living barely, struggling away in the usual way. I got a phone call from the cultural attaché of the Candian High Commission. (I’m Canadian, and had played at some do there, met the guy, who always seemed out of his element, which he was. He was some sort of carerer diplomat who had been put into this job.)
Anyway, there was it seems a Canadian-financed movie (or something like that; I expect the Canadian government was involved somehow) starring Donald Sutherland (Canadian – note a theme?) that needed a (Canadian-content, evidently) pianist to play the second movement of the Ravel piano concerto. As it happens, I do play that. I think I was put in touch with someone connected with the film. When they said “and the ending will be changed” , I think I gave the very slightest of queries or qualms, like “oh?” Anyway, he didn’t like that expressed qualm, as he made it very clear, and that’s the last I heard. Someone else played that part of the soundtrack.
Many, many years later, just a few years ago, I found myself sitting next to Donald Sutherland at one of the first concerts to open Disney Hall. I told him about this. That’s all I’ve got.
by berkowit28 on Aug 5, 2011 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
That’s all I’ve got.
Better story then most could muster up here. Have you regretted the “oh”?
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
I agree with the meercat
That is actually an excellent story, esp with the punchline at the end that you actually got the opportunity to tell that story to one of the movie’s leads.
I must say, having met you at least once, you must be older than I thought. Don’t Look Now was made in 1973.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Then I really was struggling then. I arrived in London summer of 1973, aged 24. So I must have only just met/introduced myself to the Canadian Cultural attaché, and I would have been a very unknown quantity. I could have sworn this must have happened at least 2 years later. Hmmm. This is the movie set in Venice, etc, right?
That is the movie in question. I would not have pegged you as a sexagenarian. Of course I think I met you four years ago (DT Day 2007) and you weren’t yet one then!
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Yes, Venice.
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
Also recently voted the best British film of all time by some reputable group in GB.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
A new contender for oldest TBLA commenter! I, too, was born in 1949.
Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.
Aha! I knew that would fool someone. I was actually born in 1948, October. Got to tretch out every month…
That story
made this thread worth it.
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by Pure Azure on Aug 5, 2011 4:15 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Yep, and apparently you only want to play SS :)
KCAL! FTMFW!
by robotmadeofnails on Aug 5, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Rotoworld
Mariners recalled OF Trayvon Robinson from Triple-A Tacoma.
As expected. Robinson, 23, was acquired by the Mariners on Sunday as part of the three-way Erik Bedard trade with the Dodgers and Red Sox. The highly-touted outfielder was batting .289/.374/.552 with 26 home runs at the Triple-A level this season, but also struck out 122 times in 146 plate appearances. He is worth adding in AL-only leagues, but his inability to make consistent contact could be an issue in his first taste of the big leagues.
Certainly more realistic expectations than Rotowire.
Good luck Trayvon
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Aug 5, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions
struck out 122 times in 146 plate appearances
That’s got to be a typo.
Rooting for you, Tray. Let ’em rave on.
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
or they are a time traveler
and accidentally posted his stats from his first 146 big league PA
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
This guy's not talking
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He’s had the most to work with. The Steven Moffat stories have been very, very good. Oh, I think he’s doing a good job, sure, but what is setting the very recent episodes apart is the writing.
What I really wish is that they would dispense with the idea of a story arc. I don’t think Doctor Who needs it; they should have 13 standalone episodes, written by the best British writers. They’re already starting to do this — they got Richard Curtis and Neil Gaiman to write episodes — and they just need to take it all the way. Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of the TARDIS!
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Eovaldi has been promoted
Should get announced soon.
by Julio Nievas on Aug 5, 2011 2:47 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
its not even all over twitter now
julio has a secret source?
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
unless he is sourcing Eo's high school newspaper
which… well…
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Probably after the game. But he is on his way.
by Julio Nievas on Aug 5, 2011 3:03 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Eovaldi is the #28 fantasy starter tomorrow
With Rubby De La Rosa on the shelf, 21-year-old Nate Eovaldi likely gets the call from Double-A for the Los Angeles Dodgers. We like this unknown better than the known disaster that has been Chris Tillman, 0-2 and a 5.01 ERA when going against the Blue Jays.
Chattanooga Times Free Press
Chattanooga Lookouts starting pitcher Nathan Eovaldi has been promoted to Los Angeles, Lookouts officials announced today.
In 2009
I would have lost a lot of money if we were betting which pitcher would start for LAD sooner, Eovaldi or Withrow.
Heck, I thought Eovaldi had reliever written on him until a few months ago.
by Michael White on Aug 5, 2011 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Should have traded Withrow when his value was high
or was it ever high?
Nothing is ever easy.
by drulenarendes on Aug 5, 2011 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Very high after 09
Top 50 prospect with BA
by Michael White on Aug 5, 2011 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I think you would have lost this bet
Who will be the first to make his MLB start for the Dodgers, Elbert, Withrow, Martin or any other draftee in the system? (I am excluding McDonald)
Arizona
Bloomquist SS
Johnson 2B
Upton RF
Young CF
Montero C
Roberts 3B
Goldschmidt 1B
Parra LF
Collmenter P
by Eric Stephen on Aug 5, 2011 2:52 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
It'll be over soon
or maybe not soon enough since the Phillies are next
Nothing is ever easy.
by drulenarendes on Aug 5, 2011 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Last night, I tuned in to the SF-Phi game just as Ruiz was coming to the plate.
My brain exploded in a fit as I went through the complicated calculus of what to root against.
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It's too bad Kuroda and Kershaw can't be swapped
Halladay v. Kershaw would be one for the ages.
Nothing is ever easy.
by drulenarendes on Aug 5, 2011 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Dodgers Lineup
Gordon SS, Blake 3B, Ethier RF, Kemp CF, Rivera LF, Miles 2B, Loney 1B, Barajas C, Billingsley P
So is there a pattern as to when it’s Rivera LF and Loney 1B rather than Gwynn LF and Rivera 1B? Something to do with LHP/RHP, or no?
No obvious pattern. How the coaches view the particular starting pitcher vs. that batter, and their past history, I would guess.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Signability pick isn't so signable
He’ll probably sign, but I didn’t think he’ll hold off till the deadline…
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Last time we drafted a 1st rounder from Boras was Hochevar was it not?
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
Should have put some mayo on it
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by meercatjohn on Aug 5, 2011 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hochevar was a supplemental round pick
The more you drink, the less gruesome I look.
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I was thinking Eovaldi was older than 21
Looking forward to seeing what he can do tomorrow.
Nothing is ever easy.
Whatever he does tomorrow won’t mean Jack as in Edwin Jackson.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
Was EJax still 19 when he was brought up the first time? Still, even with Nate at 21, EJax is still the cautionary tale. I hope we don’t find ourselves in a roster bind a few years from now when Eovaldi Four Seasons are up and he’s out of options.
(Yes, yes, I know, three options years except in special cases……)
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
looked him up on milb.com
cap’n eo has a 6.26 era with runners on base and a 0.15 with nobody on. wild.
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Aug 5, 2011 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions
But the only way you can get an earned run with nobody on is via home run.
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You are destroying the slyness of my response.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
eo is great at not giving those up
seriously
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Arizona will be a great place to test that
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Certainly a fun team to watch
miklasz
Many of 99-01 #rams expected in Canton for @marshallfaulk including Warner, Holt, Bruce, Pace, Vermeil, Martz, Timmerman, Hanifan.
Oh. I can also add after the fact that Moore missed most of this season with an arm injury (not sure what part). He didn’t have any four-year offers, so maybe he’ll try a JC to get his stock up? Only throws high-80’s, so he’s not likely to shoot up much higher.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Vince Spilker
As a Johnson County CC instructor, I had a particular interest in Spilker’s future. He is considering attending Central Missouri (a Division II school) as an alternative to signing, but with his big (6’4", 230) frame and 95+ fastball, I hope the Dodgers can get him into the system.
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