Rookies Rocking in September
by Phil Gurnee on Sep 19, 2011 9:12 AM PDT
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| Name | PA | Hits | BB | AVG | OB% | Slug% |
| Dee Gordon | 78 | 28 | 2 | .373 | .390 | .467 |
| Jerry Sands | 46 | 16 | 4 | .390 | .457 | .537 |
| Russ Mitchell | 20 | 5 | 2 | .278 | .350 | .444 |
| Timothy Joseph Federowicz | 10 | 2 | 2 | .286 | .500 | .286 |
| OOPS | 47 | 5 | 3 | .122 | .217 | .171 |
| Name | PA | K | BB | WHIP | ERA | OPS |
| Kenley Jansen | 34 | 21 | 1 | 0.808 | 2.08 | .461 |
| SKIP THE REST |
Okay, not all the rookies are rocking in Sept. Sellers is doing his best impression of Juan Castro, Elbert is not building off the brilliant August, Javy is showing why Jansen should be the closer in 2012, Nathan is no more a stud relief pitcher then he is a starter.
Still, the important rookies are delivering and are a big part of the reason why this team is as hot in Sept as any team in baseball.
Kenley Jansen by the way is simply sick. 21 k's against his last 31 hitters. With only one walk. Marmol may have the all time K/9 rate but his walk rate was through the roof when he did it. It is premature to say Jansen is better then what we got from Gagne / Broxton / Saito / Kuo but right now, Jansen can stand tall among those redwoods.
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speaking of young 'uns, Alex Santana made BA's top 20 Arizona Rookie League prospects list
http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/prospects/rankings/league-top-20-prospects/2011/2612367.html
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
go watch the vid
at dodgers.com
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 19, 2011 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions
SCIENCE DAMN YOU
FIREWALL!!!!!!!!
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 19, 2011 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions
I did enjoy the Emmy bit last night involving Mad Men when grey haired dude put the old telephone to his eyes when Lynch said you can now watch video on your phone.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I missed that part, but did see the Office skit. That was good.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 19, 2011 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions
That and separately
“I lot you were wondering why I became a lesbian. Ladies and gentlemen, the cast of Entourage.”
by Eric Stephen on Sep 19, 2011 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions
that is awesome
I am glad I watched a hell of a football game instead, but would have guffawed loudly on that one
I hate Entourage
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 19, 2011 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions
That was definitely one of the better lines of the night
on a night full of really terrible lines, of course, but still.
The Office ad and the Mad Men bit were the other rare highlights.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
The PA announcer was awful. Worse puns than me.
Side note, Amy Poehler and The Bangles on this week’s Comedy Bang Bang. Hilarious.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 19, 2011 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
That was some nice talent for leading comedy skirts on the stage. I’ve only seen the first episode of Molly but she was awesome in it.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Sep 19, 2011 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
That was a pretty cool/funny stunt by Poehler and the gang.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 19, 2011 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Awesome
and I still can’t believe Poehler didn’t win.
But I also can’t believe Nick Offerman wasn’t nominated.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
it really was a hell of a football game
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 19, 2011 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Monday Night Football, that is crazy.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Sep 19, 2011 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions
so glad
Kyle Chandler got recognized
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
Me too. Only wish Connie Britton had won too :-(
She was so awesome on that series.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Don’t watch much but top three for me
Community
P&R
Modern Family
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Sep 19, 2011 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions
might be camera angle, he could potentially be more behind the ball than that still shot looks
but I agree, on it’s face, that picture is gross looking
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 19, 2011 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions
I pretty much raked yesterday and went 1 for 5 for my troubles
I was half proud / half salty
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 19, 2011 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions
I pitched 6 innings, 10K 1BB, 4R 0ER, threw an extra 30 or so pitches because of errors and catchers not being able to, you know, catch the pitches they themselves called for. Best play was probably runner on second, comebacker, i get the guy off second, the first throw from the 2B to the 3B goes right passed the 3B glove untouched and out of play, runner scores, batter goes to third.
outside pitch
reached out and got it. Went out real fast.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 19, 2011 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions
When I saw the NPUT link
I thought it said Rockies and I totally was looking forward to shitting on Colorado’s latest late season fade and poking fun at Dave Cameron’s prediction.
But this is good, too. :)
heh
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 19, 2011 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions
omg I thought so too, lol
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
What is more fun?
Watching Jansen strike out a hitter with deadly aplomb
Dee Gordon running
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Dee running is in the top tens things you can watch with your clothes on
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 19, 2011 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions
actually dee gordon jumping high off the ground to rob guys on at least two plays
is even more fun for me than the running
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
That was a mad hop yesterday and i loved Vin’s call of it.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Sep 19, 2011 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
We should set up a race between:
1) Jansen throwing a ball through a paned-glass window
2) Dee Gordon running
3) A dude on a motorcycle
/Feller
by Eric Stephen on Sep 19, 2011 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Bob won
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 19, 2011 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions
must I choose? :)
I gotta say, when Dee hit that ball that ended up a triple yesterday, my first thought was “Oh boy, this is gonna be great!”
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 19, 2011 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions
I still have no clue how he did not have more doubles and triples in the minors based on what I’ve seen up here.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Did you see the extra gear when he rounded first? He went twice as fast rounding second than first. and walked into third!
Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.
I have a high definition television, but there is no setting that accurately captures that gear.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 19, 2011 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Jansen, since something generally unfun has to happen before Gordon can do his thing.
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by regfairfield on Sep 19, 2011 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Dee is Mr. Fun
This team will be fun to watch next season. Hope they’re good too.
by Lex in Brooklyn on Sep 19, 2011 9:34 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Jansen to me
Dee is incredible, but Jansen is just lights out.
I was at the game with the girl I was dating on friday, as soon as Gordon got on I told her to watch him because he would steal at least a base or two. He ended up with 2 that game, the 2nd they didn’t even throw it or cover the bag he had it so easy.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Scarlett Johansson
She’s very mad at Josie.
I’ve been dating a girl for around 2 months now, I wanted to bring her to bowling on Friday night, but she’s busy studying like non-stop for her LSAT in a couple weeks.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
I confused PSATs with LSATs. Its funnier if you think she’s studying fo the PSAT.
by Michael White on Sep 19, 2011 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions
lol, that changes things juuuuust a little.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Negative. Let her go now, or else the next few years will be hell with her.
by UCLADodger32 on Sep 19, 2011 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions
smart play
let her run free for the crazy years
date her shortly when she becomes an associate
break up again because of her career
marry her when she makes partner
become Mr. Mom and live the high life
have low self-esteem and have an affair with the hot young mom next door who’s husband travels too much
retire with a good story of your life
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 19, 2011 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions
It's weird to see my future laid out so well like this
hahah
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Thanks
I feel so bad because she’s so stressed but she’s got a lot of drive, wants to be an immigration lawyer.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
is this her first time taking the test?
by UCLADodger32 on Sep 19, 2011 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions
She's taken it a few times now
She may not take the next one, she says it all depends on her next few practice tests and if she scores higher than the last time she took it.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
She said she needs to score in the 160s or higher
I’m just not sure what is good, great, etc…
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Oh. Well, it depends on where she wants to go. For a top tier school, a great college GPA and high 160’s, low 170’s is necessary. Taking it multiple times doesnt really help you case, unfortunately.
by UCLADodger32 on Sep 19, 2011 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions
When I took the test, we had a totally different scale
I was all set to go to Law school, but backed out the summer before – felt like all my older friends who were lawyers hated practicing and I felt like I needed to surf more
Probably the right decision, but had I went the other way I think that would have been good too
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 19, 2011 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions
It seems like you’ve done fine for yourself. I really, really hope I dont become one of those hate hate their job (please hire me DA’s office, please hire me DA’s office).
by UCLADodger32 on Sep 19, 2011 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions
She won't tell me what she's scored already
But from what she has said I’m guessing she has been in the 160s.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Frank Cross:
I’m gonna give you a little advice, Claire… Scrape ’em off. You wanna save somebody? Save yourself!
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Thanks
Lumpy
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 19, 2011 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions
but we pretend to listen to the guys when they predict baseball things, it makes them feel better
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
and when it happened guess who felt like a big shot, haha
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
The last time I did that Broxton was ruined forever.
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by regfairfield on Sep 19, 2011 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions
GScott predicts a Loney bomb at least every PA
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
he also predicts how a starter is going to do
after seeing him warm up with a few pitches and the infuriating thing is that he’s almost always right
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
as long as that is the extent of your cheating, you may live
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 19, 2011 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions
That’s only while you’re dating. My wife doesn’t even pretend to care any more. She just threatens to call the Dodger hot line and tell them I’m hindering her enjoyment of the game.
Follow @DavidYoungTBLA
- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Really? Shit, that's my go-to move
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
They only care when you attempt to steal home
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Sep 19, 2011 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
On Friday Night
When Gordon got on base I told David that Dee needs the old Maury Wills GO GO GO chant. The next time he got on base I stood up and did it and he stole the base. I was alone, hopefully next year I won’t be. If anyone deserves this chant it is Dee Gordon.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Dee Go-go-gordon racecar
I feel like this needs an Inspector Gadget theme with the go-go part.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
I usually write it here
if that helps
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 19, 2011 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Not all young Dodger fans think of Don Sutton as an Angel.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I know about it
because I read Jon’s Book.
100 Things Dodgers Fans Should Know & Do Before They Die
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 19, 2011 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions
We remain ignorant to the things we’ve yet to learn. I only know of the GO GO GO from here, and I will tell you that while the people I’ve met and played with know basic Dodgers history, almost none of them can tell you how many championships the Dodgers have won or in what years. we know of 1988 because it was drilled into us, but know nothing of the 1985, 1983, 1981, 1978, or 1977 teams/playoffs.
Plato thinks that you are born knowing that, you just haven’t remembered it yet
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 19, 2011 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions
I like Plato. My favorite was taking the yellow Plato and pushing it through the holes to make Plato Spaghetti.
by G.Scott on Sep 19, 2011 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
I know of it from my dad
He’s told me about that before. If I had a better memory I could tell you almost all of Dodger history based off of what my dad has told me, but le memory is le shit.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
no one is as old as you
they need stadium music to teach them the beat
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 19, 2011 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions
I apparently purchased Africa by Toto Saturday night
in a drunken stupor, because I don’t remember doing it. More importantly, how did I not have it before? :(
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
stars weren't aligned
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 19, 2011 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions
We’ve all made that mistake before.
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by regfairfield on Sep 19, 2011 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions
I apparently punched one of TBLA’s favorite posters because my phone slipped in between the car door and my seat. Not a proud moment.
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
Sounds like my Saturday. Just with less Rick Astley.
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by regfairfield on Sep 19, 2011 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions
That’s like not playing Safety Dance.
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by regfairfield on Sep 19, 2011 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions
I think we need to throw a TBLA night with an 80s theme
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
We know you’ve got the music on your phone!
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by regfairfield on Sep 19, 2011 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions
you can’t play music off your phone at an 80s party, unless the other end is pressed against a radio
by Josie Becker on Sep 19, 2011 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions
?
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by regfairfield on Sep 19, 2011 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions
I love when Urban Outfitters says: “we love your enthusiasm, Josie. But join us in the 21st century.”
by Josie Becker on Sep 19, 2011 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions
yes! I'm so for this
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
You can dance if you want to
You can leave your friends behind. Because if your friends don’t dance and if they don’t dance well they’re no friends of mine.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
somewhat ironically, that very not punk rock song was about punk rock dancing
by Josie Becker on Sep 19, 2011 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions
the song was about the awesomeness of ren faires and having short people as friends
I refuse any other narrative, just like I avoid any conversation where Joey Joe is being the unsufferable attendee at the cocktail party.. You know the one
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 19, 2011 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions
i keep reminding myself of your words of wisdom re: responding to contrarion people, and I’m getting better, but good lord is it difficult.
I’m going to make that meme. I am going to get banned for life, but I am going to do it, and it is going to be hilarious
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
Make sure to post the meme picture on here
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
how did I not have it before?
This is the first thing that popped into my head
by Eric Stephen on Sep 19, 2011 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Saw a Foreigner concert
and the opening act was Jefferson Starship (or whomever is left).
During the opening part, they brought up the lead singer from Toto, and he sang three songs. I pulled out my iPhone to show my cousin and nieces that those were the three Toto songs I had: Africa, Hold The Line, and Rosanna. It was basically a religious experience.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 19, 2011 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions
Outside of those songs I couldn't name a Toto song
But those 3 are great
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Rosanna is a POS song
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Sep 19, 2011 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Plenty of Cetera-esque high register notes
by Eric Stephen on Sep 19, 2011 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m a one L Philip, good sir. Do not confuse me with the riff raff who need two L’s.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Sep 19, 2011 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions
That song has been on my itunes for 5 years
it’s a must have for any Toto fan. Wait, there aren’t really any? Ok, 70s and 80s fan :)
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Ryan Theriot is being a dick.
“I don’t think at this point in my career I see myself as a second baseman,” he said. “That said, I have no problem going to play second base. It doesn’t bother me at all.”
The Cardinals led the division until July 27, four days before the Furcal acquisition. Speaking only about his own role, Theriot noted, “When I was playing shortstop we were in first place. I know that. It is what it is.”
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I told my latin class that
I am the Aaron Miles of Latin composition. No one understood what I meant. I asked if anyone was a baseball fan. One of the guys was, and he was a Cubs fan. I said, “OH! I’m the Ryan Theriot of Latin composition.”
Then he told me he liked Theriot and I stopped talking to him.
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
Wasn’t Aaron Miles a Cub for several years?
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by regfairfield on Sep 19, 2011 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions
even if he wasn’t, he is still a booboo bear
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 19, 2011 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions
he didn't know who he was
I was trying to say I was essentially mediocre/borderline awful at writing in Latin and only occasionally had flashes of brilliance competence
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
Should've said you were the Fukudome of Latin then
he’d have gotten it immediately.
Depends on how old school a fan he is
My buddy who was a Cubs fan used to think of Mitch Webster that way.
I think Jeff Samardjkhgsdfghdghfjia would also fit that description.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
I think there was little other course of action
Then he told me he liked Theriot and I stopped talking to him.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Ryan Theriot is beinga dickawesome.
The more you drink, the less gruesome I look.
Writing and inciting at Barca Blaugranes
Troll @shadowking011
Also worth noting that the last time Theriot played short they were not in first place.
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by regfairfield on Sep 19, 2011 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions
when i had a job, the economy was in better shape.
It is what it is
by Lex in Brooklyn on Sep 19, 2011 9:58 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
anyone still doubt Jansen?
Those may game threads look hilarious now.
75 career IP for a 23yr old reliever short on experience is enough of a sample size to conclude he’s something special…way more special than Saito (a veteran when doing it), Gagne (juiced), and Kuo (only loogy’ing).
Kuo was more than a loogy, most definitely
Saito was a veteran, but from Japan, he dominated major leaguers right out of the gate.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
He went from being an unnotable reliever in the Japan to a 1.8 FIP in the bigs a year later.
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by regfairfield on Sep 19, 2011 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions
He's always going to be one of my favorites because he was awesome but low key
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Jansen’s career FIP is 1.89 currently over 75ip.
Saito threw 78ip in his 1st season when putting up that 1.87 ERA.
So yes, they are both really good.
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by regfairfield on Sep 19, 2011 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions
for Jansen's sake
I hope you’re right
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
absolutely
Others things I hope…
for polite and informative conversations sake I hope this tracking of who said what when and for what reason goes the way of the dodo
unless it is good natured fun, this “Look at me, I said this!” coversation pattern is dull at best.
say smart things repeatedly and people will notice without you telling them how smart you are
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 19, 2011 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions
End of May, Jansen had a 6.43 ERA and looked like crap. he then took three weeks off and has posted a 0.65 ERA in 27.2 IP since.
He never looked like crap
You, Josie, and Maddz kept saying he did, but his stats said differently.
You guys were all wrong.
Should have looked at his peripherals.
Not what you saw for 20 minutes in spring training when he was warming up.
the peripherals where he checked out women without looking like he was?
by Josie Becker on Sep 19, 2011 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Lot of strike outs, lot of walks, lot of dingers.
He stopped throwing his dumbass “cutter” or he at least figured out what a cutter actually was and he got better.
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by regfairfield on Sep 19, 2011 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions
Kenley's May Line
ERA: 4.70
FIP: 2.36
xFIP: 3.67
It was actually April when his ERA was terrible. May it was simply, bad.
by Michael White on Sep 19, 2011 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Feel free to revise history if you like, but he looked like shit in spring training and then the first third of the season. Not having a very good offspeed pitch is one thing, not knowing you’re throwing one is a big problem. Glad to see he worked it out.
He still doesnt throw his off speed pitches hardly at all.
But he has a cutter.
The same cutter that he used last year when he struck out 15/9.
And he’s still doing it this year.
No one said he wasn't going to be great
the debate was always whether he could use more time in the minors or not. But hey, don’t let me get in the way of Joey Joey giving himself the ole reach around.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
can you Dutch Rudder yourself over the Dutch Rudder?
by G.Scott on Sep 19, 2011 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I was Jazzersized over Jansen’s debut. But after folk figured out his fastball, it was obvious he needed time to work on his breaking stuff. He did, and here we are.
by Josie Becker on Sep 19, 2011 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions
when someone is so spectactularly right and the group think wrong
i will definitely oblige.
I just hate when people actually see something (like say at spring training or at a game), and immediately determine they have insider knowledge.
Then again, i hate baseball scouts so its the same concept.
You cant watch someone for 20 minutes and say “we’ll they arent any good”…or “they are great”…especially when it goes against what they actually do on the mound in real games.
g scott did say that jansens fastball had no movement, and when i saw his bullpen on apr 5 or so in SD that shit was moving like crazy and i told the person i was with WTF was gary talking about?
gary's the victim of confirmation bias
he has his preconceived notions, and then he goes about looking for something to prove it.
Look no further than saying “Well James Loney is going to turn it around real soon…I saw something in his swing”…and this was back in May I think.
James loney then went on to put up 200 PAs
that where like 300 OPS higher then his OPS to that point in the season. so.. what are you trying to say?
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
You have very selective sample size end pointing.
Loney had a 500 OPS or something…it was inevitable he’d improve. Not because he changed something about his swing or what not…thats just the player he is. A 700 OPS player.
the sample size endpointing
isn’t that selective when its based on something someone specifically said on a real day of the year. But ok.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Loney's peaks and valleys..
May 2nd – 472 OPS
June 25th – 685 OPS
August 8th – 619 OPS
Sept 18th – 744 OPS
To me this is just the eb and flow of the season…especially for a guy like Loney who has had 2,000 ABs of being the exact same player.
but will anyone complain when I break out the
“S to the 7”
YO!
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 19, 2011 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions
sure this is james loney's mo
doesn’t mean G Scott didn’t see something that allowd him to predict the next peak. I’m not saying Loney isn’t inconsistent/streaky/peaky/valley, just that maybe you can look at his swing and say, hey, that looks better then last week, I think he is getting his timing down.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Maybe, but knowing when a player is about to break out or slump is a lot of why scouts exist. it’s not all about evaluation to put someone on a scale (I would say almost NONE of scouting involves “that guy’s good” or “that guy sucks”) and instead is about looking for trends, changes, discrepencies and advantages/disadvantages to be gained.
It’s happened twice this season that Loney has improved his numbers, so how was he wrong…? Especially since one of these was in may, around the 14th on (TBLA game so I’m told :P).
Don’t worry Gary, just don’t respond, lol.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
one day jansen would be awesome
the next he would walk 5 guys. When he was good he was great, when he wasn’t he was horrible.
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Its completely relevant
with how inconsistent jansen is maybe his fastball WAS flat when G Scott saw him, and he was simply better when you saw him?
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and I'm saying within a single week jansen was going from great to horrible
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I can’t help but think you either saw incorrectly (which I highly doubt), Jansen threw a cutter when he called for a fastball, or was simply using his cutter as his fastball that day (which isn’t all that unusual).
he must have thrown everything that day, i watched about 20 pitches so i assume some of them had to be fastballs. i watched from directly behind him, and trust me everything was moving, some moving too much for sure. my point is that you mentioned everything was flat and straight, and I saw nothing of the sort just a short time later.
it is what it is
I would be more concerned (which still means not concerned at all) if you watched the same bullpen and had the same conclusion
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 19, 2011 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions
I’d be more concerned if he wasn’t awesome.
As much as in person reports are interesting I completely discard them even if the person reporting did play baseball at a high level.
One spring Reg came back and told us that DeWitt was the worse fielding 3rd baseman he’d ever seen. Then everyone broke their thumbs and Dewitt was playing 3rd, and lo and behold this guy turns out to be the best defensive 3rd baseman we’d had since Beltre.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 19, 2011 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't want a reliever in the bullpen
who I don’t know whether he is going to strike a couple guys out or walk 3 guys. Those are the kind of things a young pitcher like Jansen might simply be better working on in the minors. Its not like I said he was going to be bad, just that he might need more time to work on things.
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Nolander
don’t attribute comments to me that I never said. Regarding Manning.
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I think your comment was in reply to mine at one point
saying that it was rediculous to think one player could be that important in such a team oriented game or something. shrug
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that sounds halfway between me and Phil
by Josie Becker on Sep 19, 2011 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions
funny you should say that...
http://www.truebluela.com/2011/8/24/2381740/dodgers-cards-getaway-game-chat#75472799
sorry phil!
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by nolander on Sep 19, 2011 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
about? I’m probably blind but I did not see anything from me in that chat regarding Manning.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 19, 2011 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh, I took as he was sorry he proved me wrong.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 19, 2011 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions
ah, that sounds like something I’d say, not specific to Manning, but to one person importance on a football team.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 19, 2011 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions
I remember the first great Manning and what happens when a great QB is on a truly bad team
The drop from Manning to a retired Collins is too great to overcome, but I fret when folks overstate the QB role
put it this way, replace Peyton with someone outside between the 10th and 15th best QB in the league – maybe his little brother? Maybe a Flacco? and this Colts team isn’t 4 – 12
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 19, 2011 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions
jeez…this is what I said
’yeah, Peyton is great and all, but it is not like the Colts have lacked talent during his tenure"
sue me, I still believe that to be true
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 19, 2011 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions
I think Bob Sanders’ health (or lack thereof) is as big a reason for their success (or lack thereof) as Peyton Manning’s right arm.
Peyton clearly makes players better – but guys like Saturday, Wayne, Harrison, Addai, Clark would have been successful anywhere
Sanders was a huge difference
in general, the roster has gotten weaker over the last two years
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 19, 2011 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions
and i argued specifically the last two years
even more so last year the team would be horrible without him and people disagreed.
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again, horrible without him replaced by who?
Collins? Sure. Tarvaris Jackson? Sure?
Drew Brees? they don’t skip a beat
Roethlisberger? Maybe 11 – 5 instead of 12 – 4
Eli or Flacco or that kid from TB? 10 – 6? 9 – 7?
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 19, 2011 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions
anyone outside a top 5 QB
probably horrible. His line was really really really bad. Manning’s quick release is hte only thing stopping that line from racking up a billionty sacks. They also didn’t win 12 games last year.
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fantasy football is too much of a crapshoot
I’ve given up on it
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Right. I mean it's sort of like when I saw John Elway replaced by Brian Griese
If Broncos still had Terrell Davis after that they might still have been ok, Griese wasn’t totally horrible, but wasn’t good enough to mask other deficiencies. Basically, replacing one of the all time greats is… hard. But if you have another great one, like Brees or Rogers, obviously they wouldn’t drop off quite as severely.
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bob sanders hasn't been healthy for years
they went to the super bowl without him
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for you - i wanted to smash my phone yesterday
when i kept seeing tweets about how bad the raiders needed nnamdi yesterday LOL
Don’t mock the Turtles
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 19, 2011 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Funny how one day Pythag is dead on, and the next he’s the biggest liar around.
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he never tells you shit about what happened, just gives you decent directions on what will happen
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 19, 2011 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions
horrible
A negative of the renaming and separation is that the Qwikster.com and Netflix.com websites will not be integrated. So if you subscribe to both services, and if you need to change your credit card or email address, you would need to do it in two places. Similarly, if you rate or review a movie on Qwikster, it doesn’t show up on Netflix, and vice-versa.
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Obviously Netflix wants to sell out of the DVD business
:(
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yeah really sounds like they’re trying to make it a totally separate entity so they can sell it off and/or smoothly transition to a solely streaming business. Which, I applaud if they can get their entire library streaming, which I don’t think will happen for awhile yet.
Not when they're losing streaming rights, anyway.
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their deal with Starz
doesn’t look to be renewed
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 19, 2011 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions
That's where you're wrong.
Taken from the article below:
Starz happens to own exclusive licensing rights for many movies from Sony and Disney, meaning that when Starz pulls out of Netflix streaming in February, movies such as “Tangled,” “Toy Story 3” and “The Expendables” will go with it. Starz also owns the rights to many older cult classics such as “The Toxic Avenger,” “Big Trouble in Little China” and “The Karate Kid.”
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not to mention
30 second Bunny Theater
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 19, 2011 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions
One of the best
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 19, 2011 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
and Netflix has shown that 9 percent of users
have ever watched stars content.
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I also lied
it accounts for 8% of the hours watched or something like that, but to be honest other then a few films starz didn’t offer much, and the quality of the video was pretty shitty. They also wanted Netflix to raise their prices, which I think is why the deal fell through.
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http://www.technewsdaily.com/starz-to-remove-disney-sony-movies-from-netflix-streaming-3212/
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always good when you use terms like “second place” “first place”
nothing like really communicating the details during a time of corporate unrest
that was a boob reply, and in this case “boob” does not mean perfect, though in fact, Boobs are Perfect
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 19, 2011 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions
good lord, that could take upwards of twenty seconds
by Josie Becker on Sep 19, 2011 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions
it is a matter of consumer expectations
once a standard has been set, it is tough to make customers change
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 19, 2011 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions
over and over and over
the integration of streaming and dvds is why I love netflix right now. I don’t want to maintain two seperate lists, and rankings and then to constantly have to search on two different sites. This offers no benifits to the customer, its just a huge pain in the ass.
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I also think this is going to lead to the death of netflix
I know thats dramatic, but without the weight of their dvd service to through around studios wont’ give them shit for streaming, and some other, bigger company will come in and steamroll them when it comes to streaming.
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Bockbuster will have its revenge!
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heh
I actually think Qwikster will do better then Netflix. “Qwikster” dominated the dvd by mail rental market, netflix can’t really say that about streaming.
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probably?
They have said they will be run as two completely seperate companies if I understand correctly. Maybe netflix really is going to add a huge amount of content to their streaming in the next couple months like they claim, but I doubt it. I would love to be wrong.
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but you do maintain two separate lists
your DVD list and your streaming list have always been separate. Only thing now is a DVD in your queue will tell you if it’s available for streaming, and it’s the same search function to put a movie in either list
by Josie Becker on Sep 19, 2011 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions
it will automatically be added to my instant queue
but I can search for a movie and find out right away if I can stream it, and if not just add it to my dvd list if not. Theres also the integration of ratings, which is half the reason I love netflix so much.
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SQL can do all kinds of cool shit with lists
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 19, 2011 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Meerkat’s rule the box office once again.
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Just bought field level right field seats for tomorrow
Can’t wait to see Kershaw notch win number 20
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Nothing to stop him from moving behind the plate except gumption.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 19, 2011 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions
I lack for many things
but I am not shy about walking to a better seat than I one I paid for, assuming of course that the better seat is empty
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 19, 2011 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions
My favorite is the person/persons who have taken someone else’s seat and when that person comes to claim their seat, they are asked by the usurper to take the empty seats behind them instead so they don’t have to move.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 19, 2011 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions
At an Isotopes game one time I saw two people obviously going into seats that weren’t theirs. So we went and pretended those were our seats, just to be jerks.
I mean, there are pretty much no bad seats in Isotopes Park.
That does seem jerky
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 19, 2011 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions
that’s not me
that is the difference between an opportunist (me, I hope) and a self-centered jerk (which we all struggle against)
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 19, 2011 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions
me too
when i had res 23 seats i always sat around res 5-9. I would get pissed when people came to 23 with 51 seats, so i bounced and did the same.
Despite the amazing matchup
I think we will be able to move around.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
No time to move when you are glued to the edge of your seat.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 19, 2011 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
It’s not often you get to see someone hit a 38th home run in person.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 19, 2011 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Nobody ever makes home run saving catches over the wall in prison because anytime an outfielder starts to climb the fence he gets shot by the guards.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 19, 2011 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions
Plenty of asspattingto go around
even more accurate
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 19, 2011 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions
i wish
he gave his Go USA speech, get back on those planes, don’t let the terrorists win, travel, spend that money, gold medal, i also bleed red white and blue, pledge of allegiance every morning, got mad slammed his jacket on the infield grass, blew out his candles, stormed to the top of the mound, threw a 12-6 strike and stormed off the field. Place went berzerk.
by delias man on Sep 19, 2011 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Pretty much if anyone can throw a curve for a ceremonial first pitch and have it anywhere within the Eric Gregg strike zone, it’s awesome.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 19, 2011 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions
More and more talk swirling
about Verlander getting the AL MVP.
He’s had a fantastic season, but that’s what the Cy Young is for. Let the hitters have their own damn award.
Nothing is ever easy.
Then change the name to Most Valuable Hitter
by Michael White on Sep 19, 2011 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions
Call it “The Hank”
make the award a statue of Aaron – have him hand it out until he dies and then a family member or some shit like that
Now you have CY, the Hank, and MVP
done and done
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 19, 2011 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
You mean this?
The Hank Aaron Award is given annually to the Major League Baseball (MLB) players selected as the top hitter in each league, as voted on by baseball fans and members of the media. It was introduced in 1999 to commemorate the 25th anniversary of Hank Aaron’s surpassing of Babe Ruth’s career home run mark of 714 home runs. The award was the first major award to be introduced by Major League Baseball in 19 years.
ha ha
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 19, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Trivia time
While no Dodger has one the Hank, two players that have won the Hank played for the Dodgers…name them
For xtra credit, name another Hank winner who will join the Dodgers in the next 2 years
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 19, 2011 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Hmmm, since 1999
Sheffield?
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 19, 2011 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Nice
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 19, 2011 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions
WAIT 3 players won the award
and a 4th will be a dodger soon
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 19, 2011 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions
whoops
he didn’t!!!
you sir are correct and I am clearly terrible at this stuff
Manny and Andruw is it – two OFs will checkered stays in LA
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 19, 2011 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
I don’t see him on the list and how can Albert not have won just about every year he’s played?
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 19, 2011 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
close but nope
Now for the hard question, which two time winner (2006, 2009), will end up as a Dodger regular, amid much fanfare, at the start of the 2013 seasons….
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 19, 2011 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions
he never won, though the player my crystal ball is taunting me about plays the same position
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 19, 2011 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Ridic
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 19, 2011 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions
BINGO!
thank you for taking part in the one and only trivia challenge I will ever do
leaving this for the pros
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 19, 2011 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions
Damn you.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
And Jeter. Also hate Jeter.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Or they can give the Hank Aaron award the same merit as the Cy and MVP.
Nothing is ever easy.
by drulenarendes on Sep 19, 2011 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions
I agree with this
but I don’t think Verlander has been good enough to be MVP
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What's funny is
If you wanted to use fWAR as a justification for casting your MVP vote, it’s Halladay (not Verlander) who has the better argument.
by Michael White on Sep 19, 2011 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Who would want to do that?
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 19, 2011 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Willie Hernandez might be my favorite WTF pitcher MVP
by Eric Stephen on Sep 19, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, that was a WTF choice.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 19, 2011 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions
Probably made Blyleven (19-7, 144 ERA+, 6.2 bWAR — second to Stieb) wait a few more years for the HOF. He finished 3rd in the CY that year to Hernandez and Quisenberry. It was a year to vote for relievers apparently.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 19, 2011 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions
He’s putting up very similar numbers to Clemens when he won in 1986. I think it’s very feasible he wins. Particularly with three Red Sox splitting votes.
Nothing is ever easy.
by drulenarendes on Sep 19, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Granderson and Bautista
have cases
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 19, 2011 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions
As does his teammate, Mr. Miggy
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 19, 2011 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions
True
but Bautista is out simply because Toronto is not a contender. Granderson will probably lose votes for his BA.
Nothing is ever easy.
by drulenarendes on Sep 19, 2011 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions
If the Red Sox finish in 3rd they will not need to worry about splitting 1st place votes.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 19, 2011 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions
ellsbury and pedroia
If its not enough that the Red Sox have lots of cash…hitting on their late round 1st rounders is even more impressive.
Ellsbury leads the AL in WAR (according to fangraphs)…but i dont think he has a shot at MVP.
bill simmons brought up..
That if you just take the amount of batters that Verlander would face in a given season…and compare it to the amount of ABs a batter would get…they are affecting the game at the same level.
Obviously doesnt account for seasonal fielding…but its an interesting way to look at it.
Everyone is a Baltimore Orioles fan over the next 10 days
Orioles play Red Sox 7 times, including right now in the first game of a doubleheader.
Orioles up 2-0 in the 3rd
I dislike the Sox so much
I was rooting against the Boston truck in the great foodtruck race
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 19, 2011 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I only caught one episode this season. I was turned off when at the end of last season it seemed fixed, like they needed some strange way to end it, and the editing was poor.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 19, 2011 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions
the highlight / low light for me is when the Korean guys got busted for cheating when they didn’t need to
they were my favs
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 19, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
My friend up here is a Red Sox fan.
Safe to say he is freakin out.
I have sent him a this text 3 times today.
“You guys can win it with Lackey and Wakefield throwing. Nothing to worry about. Go Rays.”
by keithc13 on Sep 19, 2011 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
cold-blooded
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 19, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
ha
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 19, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Let's go Orioles
clap, clap, clap clap clap
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
James McDonald's cousin
dropped a ball in today’s game but then hit a solo shot to make it 2-1 Orioles.
by bhsportsguy on Sep 19, 2011 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions
The fact Darnel McDonald is even playing says volumes about the outfield situation in baseball these days.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 19, 2011 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions
He wasn’t even good enough to stay in our minor league system.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 19, 2011 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
I thought you were letting us know how much we meant to you
Je t’aime
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 19, 2011 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Who are these guys
Robert Andino just hit a 2 run homer off of Kyle Weiland to give the Orioles a 4-1 lead in the top of the 4th.
Sox should have traded for Lilly.
Not sure you can cobble together a rotation better then the Dodgers between both the Yankee’s and Sox at the moment.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 19, 2011 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions
Okay
really, Nolan Reimold just hit a solo shot to make it 5-1 (back to back).
by bhsportsguy on Sep 19, 2011 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions
Reimold is hot, not just a flukey game. THey are drilling a lousy pitcher, Sox deserve to lose this game.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 19, 2011 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions
.931 OPS in Sept
He’s had five hits in the past eight days, three of them home runs. And four stolen bases.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 19, 2011 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions
That name is all eye- tal- yan
His brother Dino is a professional surfer out of New Jersey
actually, I don’t know that Dino is his brother
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 19, 2011 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions
Playing with pain?
SI_JonHeyman
interesting that carl crawford was scratched with a stiff neck. what #redsox player doesnt have neck pain now? #heimlich
that is about the most clever thing that dude has ever written
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 19, 2011 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions
#howcanbradpennybebetterthanboth
by Eric Stephen on Sep 19, 2011 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
You’re making it hard to live in my Heyman free world.
Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Sep 19, 2011 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Carlos Beltran probably POTW
Last seven games
14 hits
30 ab
4 doubles
3 home runs
1.415 OPS
Now has a higher OPS with the Giants .932 then he did with the Met’s .904
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He even hit a ball into the Navarro Pond last week.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 19, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Or when healthy
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 19, 2011 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Going to be 10 – 6 Sox Victory
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 19, 2011 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions
Speaking of the Fenway Park outfield
It was described as “mud” in Game 7 in the 1975 World Series by Joe Posnanski (talking about Morgan’s GW hit that Lynn didn’t catch).
Just finished “The Machine” last night. Loved it.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 19, 2011 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions
any and all Pos books are great
“The Soul of Baseball” is a beauty
and everyone in the entire world should buy and read “The Art of Fielding” by Harbach
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 19, 2011 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Heard nothing but amazing things about The Art of Fielding.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions
A book about the greatest Yankee of them all, Derek Jeter, written by Nolij.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 19, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
It is a new novel. Franzen says it’s the shit, so you know all the snooties will be reading it.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions
raises hand
the book, contains passages of brilliance.
BTW – I wanted to let you know that I have come to a full Humma position on James Loney.
Whatever the Dodgers do about Loney, it will be the wrong decision.
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 19, 2011 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions
HJ, that is good. So good I wish I’d come up with it myself.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions
I cannot help but feel that you put the thought into my head
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 19, 2011 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Franzen says, “Reading The Art of Fielding is like watching a hugely gifted young shortstop: you keep waiting for the errors, but there are no errors. First novels this complete and consuming come along very, very seldom.”
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions
Well, it does say “hugely gifted.”
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions
read the first chapter right there on Amazon
hooked me hard, that chapter
The book zapped my head something fierce, I find myself thinking about it all the time
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 19, 2011 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions
All right already
I’ll download it to the Kindle for the plane/train rides.
by bhsportsguy on Sep 19, 2011 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions
I cannot help it
I am a book evangelist
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 19, 2011 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions
I couldn’t put The Soul of Baseball down. I loved that book.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 19, 2011 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions
made me cry sweet and sad tears
The book made me want to find Buck O’Neal and hug him, but I read it too late. I did the next best thing I could think of and donated money to the Negro League Museum in KC. One of these days I gotta get to KC
I heard they got some crazy little girls there and I’m gonna get me one
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 19, 2011 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Everything’s up to date in Kansas City.
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions
One of my favorite books ever. I’m a big time Negro Leagues buff, and Buck is one of my favorites. I’m still seething that he wasnt inducted into the HOF when he was still alive.
by UCLADodger32 on Sep 19, 2011 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
don’t get me started
blowhards and idiots
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 19, 2011 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
And Buck was still so much of a boss that he goes up there and gives one of the best HOF speeches ever. I definitely cried when watching him speak….what a man he was.
by UCLADodger32 on Sep 19, 2011 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions
I read Beyond the Shadow of the Senators for my class last semester…it’s about the Negro Leagues, if you’re interested.
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
havent read that one yet. I wish I had time to do some reading outside of school, but alas, it must wait til summer.
by UCLADodger32 on Sep 19, 2011 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Burns hooked me on Buck, Pos educated me on Buck. Not sure a greater person ever wore the uniform.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Sep 19, 2011 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions
I have a lot of baseball memorabilia, cards, autographs, etc, but one of the most important things I have is just a simple Buck autographed photo. not too expensive, but its meaning to me is priceless.
by UCLADodger32 on Sep 19, 2011 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
don’t have much interest in meeting athletes, but I would surely paid to watch a KC Royal game with Buck.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Sep 19, 2011 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I loved his stories
on Ken Burn’s Baseball doc.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 19, 2011 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions
nope – worth it?
I read the Ron Luciano books when I was young
read the Bruce Weber Umpire book recently and LOVED it
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 19, 2011 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I think I still have it on my shelf. I’ll have to bring it next time I see you. Nothing earthshattering, but a lot of fun stories about umpiring, players, the game, fans and the like.
And JJ Hardy
hits a solo shot to make it 6-2.
by bhsportsguy on Sep 19, 2011 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions
Ok, so anyway. About yesterday.
Vinny said, “Live from Dodger Stadium. Prime Ticket presents the Dodgers as they take on…of all teams! The Pittsburgh Pirates.”
It was hilarious. The way I posted it came off like an important thing when really we just laughed our asses off.
This is like watching Christina Hendricks remove the balled up socks from from the front of her dress right in front of you.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 19, 2011 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions
I’d still be grateful for the intimacy of the moment
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 19, 2011 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Yes and looking back on it I shouldn’t have bothered. Because really a 4+1 tribute would’ve been awesome.
The funny part is I didn’t even see your comment at first, and only went back after berkowit was wondering what was going on. I even rewound the opening and listened twice and didn’t catch anything.
This is definitely one of those mountain/molehill situations.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 19, 2011 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions
we still talking about Hendricks and socks?
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 19, 2011 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions
I would bet anything that Hendricks doesn’t use socks.
I would further bet anything she uses tape — a lot of tape.
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions
In the category of Super Boss
the Rays took a train from Boston to New York. A TRAIN! And they wore letterman sweaters for the occasion.
Josie the baseball romantic
I like it
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 19, 2011 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions
A scene out of the Moneyball trailer.
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by regfairfield on Sep 19, 2011 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions
“We can’t afford a plane. Buy transportation with the money we DO have.”
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions
“The A’s have three days off after their homestand, in order to make the train trip to Chicago for a series with the White Sox.”
by Josie Becker on Sep 19, 2011 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions
In the trailer, you see someone buying a train ticket in slow motion set to music from Friday Night Lights.
they have themes for all their road trips
The last train trip was a 50’s throwback as an homage to Zimmer and the way they did it in his day.
In Zim’s day, the Red Sox REALLY knew how to blow a huge lead.
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Interesting discussion last week on whether the Rays’ thinking totally blew it for them this season — if they’d had Moore and Jennings all season, instead of playing the service time games……..
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Wisdom
Kevin_Goldstein
Sometimes we don’t need hardcore analysis . . . RT @mtmeyers: It’s almost as if Kyle Weiland is not a major league-caliber pitcher
.
And that's that.
Dodgers
Jonathan Broxton underwent an arthroscopic procedure on his right elbow this morning to remove bone spur & associated loose bodies #Dodgers
I’d like to think that is I was good enough to be a pro athlete, I would be paranoid and competitive enough never to admit I was hurt too
Good luck Jonny Brox, others call you an idiot, but I get you brother…I get you
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 19, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions
all broken merchandise 50% off
no refunds
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 19, 2011 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions
One of them
was Matt Stairs
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
by mleadman on Sep 19, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
ack
why does bref list sOPS+ and tOPS+ but not OPS+ in their league splits
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Phil was talking about some Thursday night something or other
I was thinking about “Moneyball” that night at the Arclight Hollywood
(not knowing if it is playing there or not)
but maybe that is the end of season outing?
Like “I totally need a Mani and Pedi, my nails are disgusting!”
or like
“That Pedy likes to hangout at the ballpark, but isn’t allowed to be within 200 yards of any minor boys”
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 19, 2011 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions
They pronounce it PEE-dee. It’s still awkward and weird.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Like LAPD?
Announcers are fools – perfect nickname for him is “Dusty” a reflection of his name and his uniform, and a natural baseball name
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 19, 2011 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions
dude, fuhgetabout it. We’ll do something else some other time
by Josie Becker on Sep 19, 2011 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
I’d take me two hours to get there, still in Carson. I thought you had the day off or something, when you suggested it. Really, don’t worry about it
by Josie Becker on Sep 19, 2011 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Always depends on the nickname
After all, it was Hawk Harrelson who coined “The Big Hurt.”
by Eric Stephen on Sep 19, 2011 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
he's either Pedy
or DAH LASAH SHOW!
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 19, 2011 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Orioles remember who they are
it is now 6-4 after 5.
And there was this call
Kevin_Goldstein
Remember that missed call on the Ortiz double the next time you have some cockamamie idea about MLB conspiring for the Red Sox and Yanks.
Sands/Prince will make around the same as Loney/Ethier (if each were tendered) next year.
Please Dodgers – make a good decision.
Two in the bush.
I don’t necessarily disagree with you, but I think the tender deadline is before the free agency deadline, so they’d have to ditch Dre and Loney for nothing and hope Prince signs and Sands produces at least to an (Prince-(Ethier+Loney))/2 level which is very much russian roulette for me.
Ethier, sure
Loney? Would Loney get $7MM on the open market, because that’s what he’d make in arbitration. Not sure how many clubs will be willing to take on Loney at that salary and give the Dodgers somebody for the trouble.
by Michael White on Sep 19, 2011 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Yep, have to at least tender Ethier, see if you can sign Prince and if you do you can trade Ethier for Blake DeWitt or whatever.
Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Sep 19, 2011 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
You’re going to be eating salary if you try to deal Ethier when he’s making 13mils…wouldnt be impossible to trade him…but it’d just add to the cost of Fielder (in a roundabout way).
The alternatives to simply non-tendering Ethier is you immediately have money to resign Kuroda for a yr if need be at the very least.
I’d non-tender both of them.
20mils alot that can be used on something useful.
I cant count on Ethier being useful given his lack of power in a corner OF spot.
It's not the 20M for one year
it’s the 120M for the 6 years that is the problem.
by bhsportsguy on Sep 19, 2011 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
and if you strike out on fielder
then you have neither and we actually get worse. Yay.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
I would totally take
Fielder over Ethier and Loney, but its not a slam dunk that we can make that happen.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
the worst part is, saying shit like this then watching the team follow the common sense route of simply tendering a contract to their two time all star and fan favorite to a below market deal could lead to him having the opportuniity to completely ignore Dre’s knee injury and just walk aaround with his chest puffed up screaming I Told You Sos
Dre hasnt hit for power since he broke his wrist in May 2010.
I dont think the power is coming back.
I think he has enough sample size ABs in his career to know what kind of player he is. A team with the Dodgers budget cant carry him in a corner OF spot and improve.
I thought I had missed something. Phew.
Dre claims it’s his knee now — I wonder if this happened after he crashed into that OF fence many moons ago
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
he also hurt his knee
in the same ST
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 19, 2011 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions
broke his pinky finger. it’s a HUGE difference. The huge sample size you talk about is that of a 130+ OPS+ player who will make somewhere around $14mil.
I would rather gamble on etheir
then gamble on another old aging veteran like say, A Ram. I’ll take both though.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
is there much to lose though?
You’re already average/bad currently, so it doesnt matter.
Going from 3rd place to 4th place is negligible IMO.
Not providing a compelling reason for Matt Kemp to sign long term is reason enough to not suck in 2012.
If you’re saving $20mil, give it to Kemp and beg him to take it.
if non-tendering Loney and Ethier
is what it takes to free up enough money to sign Kemp longterm, I’m all for it. But I don’t see Ethier getting non-tendered.
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
I agree.
I wouldnt mind using that 20mils to simply resign Kemp either.
The main point…you got 20mils to work with potentially…spend it on a better player than Loney/Ethier.
well, you’d be able to extend Kemp and keep Dre for next year and see how it plays out, and if you so chose, non-tender Loney and play Sands or Van Slyke at 1B, and try to re-sign Rivera or a like player on the cheap for LF (which almost never works out well), but hey, it could happen. There are options, but I don’t think non-tendering Dre is a solution. You re-sign Kuroda with the money Kuroda is making this year.
You re-sign Kuroda with the money Kuroda is making this year.
I wanted to say that but… well… payroll could very well go down. Or we get a new tv deal and it actually goes up.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Trying to restore faith in a brand that people don’t believe in?
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by regfairfield on Sep 19, 2011 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Use the 20mil to resign Kemp or buy out Kershaw.
But bringing back the same cast of inefficient characters only at higher salaries is the one thing not to do.
that won't sell more tickets
we already have those guys. It sucks, but this is a business.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Once the regular season ends
all players that are on the DL must be reactivated. Now some like Padilla and Garland will just become free agents. Others like Rubby remain on the 40-man roster.
No one is on the DL during the off-season.
by bhsportsguy on Sep 19, 2011 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Even if you dont get Prince…
Sands in RF.
Rivera/Gwynn platoon in LF.
Ethier/Loney still = 20mils
20mils can surely buy something that would outproduce them.
Like who?
Does this also assume Uribe/Gordon/Sellers rounding out the IF?
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
On that point
I could definitely see the argument for spending the money on Reyes and then trading Gordon.
by Michael White on Sep 19, 2011 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Once you get past Pujols and Prince this market gets incredibad. Reyes, Aramis and CJ Wilson are the biggest names out there and honestly getting Nick Punto would make me happier than getting 85% of the guys on the list.
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by regfairfield on Sep 19, 2011 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
could be a starting pitcher
I wouldnt limit the discussion to only position players.
IF there was a #1 pitcher on the market, i’d rather have that guy than Loney/Ethier…
Loney/Ethier at 20mils is why bad teams are bad.
Inefficient salary structure.
The only way to combat that is to have a very high payroll to work around it…if you dont, you’re screwed.
way oversimplifying the reasons why bad teams are bad, and ignoring the fact that the Giants paid Rowand/Zito last year and won
Angels are on pace to win 90 games
they are paying Vernon wells more then 20 million.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Bad teams are bad because they don’t have many good players. The Dodgers have a team where Rod Barajas is arguably the second best position player, so they are not very good. Having a useful farm system covers up a lot of mistakes.
The teams that spend payroll efficiently win the coveted JP Riccardi wins per dollar title and then I laugh at them.
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by regfairfield on Sep 19, 2011 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions
this seems like a major shift
from you. gave up on our prospects?
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
For 1/2 a year this team has been better then good. If Rubby was here in 2011 I’d take our chances with this exact same team.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Sep 19, 2011 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions
two months ago
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Sep 19, 2011 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions
On this issue I fall one side one day and the other the next day. I can see arguments from all sides.
1. Joey could well be right, we’d be better of trading Loney/Andre signing Prince.
2. This team could be peaking toward 2012 just as it is, adding in a healthy Uribe, and finding one more starter.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Sep 19, 2011 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I dont see anyone in the organization that can be counted on to be #1 level good or All Star good within the next 3yrs.
Rubby was the only one.
I’m already plugging Sands in.
Gordon already is here.
So there’s not much left in the minors to improve the team. Its on free agency now.
I don’t think he’s ever pimped our prospects any further than “we should have saved our money and just let them play”. He’s almost entirely financially driven in his arguments.
i'm financially driven
because thats the only way for the team to accrue enough saved money to spend on difference making free agents.
like…
Werth
Crawford
Dunn
Lackey
……..
it is roulette, the difference makers
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 19, 2011 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Like every other team, we have a best case scenario too
Kemp and Kershaw continue their dominance
Loney is not a fluke
Ethier comes back healthy
Sands fills in LF and provides the lineup depth we lacked for the first 80 games
Gordon finds his inner Brett Butler at the plate and Ozzie in the field
Uribe doesn’t totally suck
Kuroda re-signs and continues to perform well
Billingsley returns to his above averageness
Guerra, Jansen, Lindblom, Elbert, Hawksworth, Guerrier form the best and cheapest bullpen in the NL
Eovaldi learns a changeup
Lilly continues being solid, no more or less than that
Ellis and Federowicz provide a young, exciting defensive duo that shuts down the opponent’s running game
Third base is filled with a down on his luck player who has his one last year in the sun
The only ones that seem unlikely are Sands and Loney, with no real solution at 3B unless you play Uribe there and Sellers at 2B and accept the free out while knowing your up-the-middle defense is the best in MLB
Agree on a lot of points
I think a healthy Ethier will regain a good part of his past, stellar form. I think Donny needs to sit Andre down and tell him that he’s playing LF. Tough crap for Andre if he throw a snit, as Jerry’s arm needs to be in RF. I think you plug in Uribe at 3B and hope we get something closer to 2010 Juan.
Re-sign Carroll, keep Sellers and Mitchell, and re-sign Rivera and Gwynn (or offer them arb, not sure of the details). Rivera can be platooned a lot with Ethier and some with Loney, and Mitchell can also play some 1B. Also, pray to FSM that the Loney who’s hitting effortless bombs now shows up in 2011. Keep Ellis, offer Barajas 60% of his 2011 salary and if he accepts, let Fedex play every day in AAA. If he declines, let AJ play two days out of every three and see if Fedex is ready to begin the season as backup.
If Kuroda doesn’t re-sign, then try to sign CJ Wilson with the Kuroda money. See if Eveland can start the season at #5 in the rotation while Eovaldi works on his secondary pitches in AA. Use whatever off days you can to skip a few of Eveland’s starts. Pray to FSM that 2012 Lilly resembles second half Lilly more than first half Lilly.
by The Dude Abides on Sep 19, 2011 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
That's an interesting point
and it brings up the discussion of whether or not a SP has more “say” in a game than an everyday starter, as an SP plays once every 5 days. I don’t think anyone other than Wilson are out there for SPs that I personally would be interested in…Aramis is intriguing but then you have Uribe floating about. I guess Sellers would have to be Carrollesque off the bench. Cheaper, too.
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
Sabathia?
Not that he’ll be affordable or anything
by Michael White on Sep 19, 2011 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't think he leaves new york anyways
he’ll get a little bit more money from the yankees and be happy to stay.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
A few years ago we convinced ourselves that he really wanted to return to California and he wanted to hit. So, we can talk ourselves into that again!
Ya, i know this has no shot at happening.
by Michael White on Sep 19, 2011 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions
The Yankees already have the dump truck full of money ready.
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by regfairfield on Sep 19, 2011 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah you end up with Uribe at 2B if you get Aramis, but I suspect Sellers would be sent back to AAA and a NRI guy like Miles/Castro will be kept to fill that role on the MLB team so Sellers can play.
I doubt sellers is a starter
but I would like to have him as the 25th man on the roster next year. I want to see him play in the OF, I really wonder what kind of skillz he has out there.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Why would you want to see someone who barely hits enough to be a utility player, play the outfield?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Sep 19, 2011 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions
curiousity
I don’t want him to play there more then once or twice just to slake my curiosity.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
I am not curious to see him play any offensive position
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 19, 2011 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Shrugs, I’d rather have him then Juan Castro and since we always have a Juan Castro having Sellers in 2012 providing utility is fine with me.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Sep 19, 2011 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
At the In-n-out drive thru
Some guy ordered a No.1 with “no vegetables”.
First time Ive heard anyone say that
by Julio Nievas on Sep 19, 2011 11:52 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
I’ll take things Monica Lewinsky said for a thousand, Alex
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 19, 2011 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
pretty sure not eating vegetables is classic man status, not chick.
And of course you don’t want to spill dressing on your skirt. Ass.
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
by Maddz on Sep 19, 2011 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
dry cleaning is expensive. I just keep them in a pile says “dirty”
by Josie Becker on Sep 19, 2011 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Holy crap, Pedro Martinez had a 291 ERA+ in 2000. http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/15194
This is the kind of year a pitcher needs to have to win the MVP. Not what Verlander is doing.
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by regfairfield on Sep 19, 2011 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions
You need one of the ten greatest years ever thrown to win the MVP?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Sep 19, 2011 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Somewhere between that and Verlander. CC Sabathia is having just as good of a year as Verlander and no one cares about him.
Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Sep 19, 2011 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Barrel Chested
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Sep 19, 2011 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m not arguing , I was asking if you think a pitcher has to be that brilliant to get the MVP nod.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 19, 2011 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions
good one
cc era is 3.01 … verlander is 2.30 not even close
by matthewmafa on Sep 19, 2011 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
There’s better ways to measure how good a pitcher is than ERA!
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by regfairfield on Sep 19, 2011 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
is cc as good as verlander in any stat this year?!
by matthewmafa on Sep 19, 2011 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Very similar strike out to walk rates, and less home runs for Sabathia even though Sabathia plays in a much tougher park.
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by regfairfield on Sep 19, 2011 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
thats it
home run rate… and its not that big of a difference and it doesnt matter cause home runs equals Runs and verlander allows less runs anyways
by matthewmafa on Sep 19, 2011 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions
FIP, xFIP, and Fangraphs WAR (which is based on FIP)
by Eric Stephen on Sep 19, 2011 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
When you first come into the light, it makes your eyes hurt and you think you’ll never be able to see anything ever again
but then your eyes adjust and you’ll wonder how you ever lived so long in the dark
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 19, 2011 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
verlander has allowed 166 H this year.....
in 244 IP…
his WHIP is .91 … sabathia 1.23…
by matthewmafa on Sep 19, 2011 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
peyton manning taking the bartolo colon route to getting healthy?
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
how is this show so frequently relevant
by Josie Becker on Sep 19, 2011 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Good news!
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Josie!!
I’m thinking of being Zapp Brannigan or Zoidberg for Halloween. Thoughts?
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Honestly I was thinking Fry, Zoidberg, or Zapp
Problem is I have to make my own costume.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
All of this is predicated on the Rays being able to beat the Yankee’s quite a few times over the next week.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Sep 19, 2011 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
which they have been doing this season
correct?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 19, 2011 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
past performance does not guarantee future results
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 19, 2011 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
that's what
the Red Sox said
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 19, 2011 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m not comfortable with Peralta closing this week. Bad time to lose Farnsworth.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Sep 19, 2011 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
indeed
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 19, 2011 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
This AJ Ellis story by Ramona S is awesome. Was already rooting hard for the guy
but reading this makes you root still harder for him,
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/mlb/story/_/id/6992653/credit-role-players-dodgers-rise
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
ruh roh, chemistry rears its troublesome and unquantifable head
It’s the attitude or maybe just the force of several strong, hard-working personalities who have helped run the Dodgers’ clubhouse this year. Guys like Casey Blake, Jamey Carroll, Tony Gwynn Jr. and, yes, Ellis, the guy who catches every third day or so.
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
I love chemistry as long as you are not paying guys for it
as a by product, gimme all you got
charge me for it? no thx
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 19, 2011 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Easy to write about chemistry, just hard to quantify it.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Sep 19, 2011 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Only the scrappy guys can be counted on for chemistry.
They should be known as chemists from now on.
a full reading of the piece will show that the chemistry talk started with Kemp and Kershaw
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 19, 2011 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
“He really did a lot of work with [former hitting instructor Jeff Pentland]. He’d get here at like 1 o’clock, and by the time I’d get to the park to meet guys at the cage, they would’ve already been in there for like an hour and A.J. was soaking wet.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Sep 19, 2011 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
yah further evidence that MSTI Mike is right, that a lot of other factors other than hitting coach
explain the Dodgers 2nd half surge. Hansen’s a nice story and all and seems to deserve to come back next year but Pentland was probably unfairly thrown under a bus.
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You mean Mike was as right as every other person who has ever said that hitting coaches don’t mean squat?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Sep 19, 2011 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Shocking
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Sep 19, 2011 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions
I just meant his post made a good case as to why in this specific case the evidence is pretty good
to support it. Seen other writers covering the Dodgers running with the “Hansen has saved the day” story so was worth going into a detailed rebuttal.
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He’s been hungry since the day the Dodgers selected him in the 18th round of the 2003 draft.
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It was a surprise pick, one that Ellis hadn’t counted on or expected. He’d already made plans to go to graduate school and be an assistant coach at his alma mater, Austin Peay.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I’ve been to Austin Peay, it’s in rockin’ (NOT) Clarksville, TN.
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
I hope you took the last train there.
Follow @DavidYoungTBLA
- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
“When he’s behind the plate, you always know what you’re going to get out of A.J.,” said reliever Josh Lindblom. "He’s just so prepared. You can kind of just take it easy on the days you’re throwing just knowing he knows what pitches to put down and what you need to do.
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“It takes a big burden off you as a pitcher. You still have to prepare, but really, when he’s back there, all you have to do is worry about executing the pitches.”
I just wish Ned and Donny had noticed these intangibles last year.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 19, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Dave and Phil- how was Friday? Hope you enjoyed :-)
"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre
Thank you very much, the four of us had a grand time pretending to be wealthy.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 19, 2011 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm so glad
Yeah it’s fun to feel like a high roller sometimes :-)
"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre
Yes, we did indeed
The whole experience was really great. BTW, the carvery was the brisket that night – pretty decent.
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- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
glad to hear it :-)
"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre
Ha, you had me worried with that headline
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Sep 19, 2011 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
hahaha
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 19, 2011 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Thankfully, the Orioles didn’t bury the lead :)
by Eric Stephen on Sep 19, 2011 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm really enjoying this collapse
Red Sox nation’s tears fuel me.
Nothing is ever easy.
by drulenarendes on Sep 19, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions
So how is everyone feeling about the Pac-16? :-
"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre
My only thought
Couldn’t they eliminate Cal and make it the Pac – 15?
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 19, 2011 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions 5 recs
Replace Cal with a winning program
Boise State sounds about right
by Michael White on Sep 19, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
funny how every single program in the world seems to be switching conferences, and Boise St. has been mentioned AT ALL
by Josie Becker on Sep 19, 2011 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions
One of the little-known portions of the Pac conference charter
is the prohibition of any school that is located in a state that has a U.S. Senator named Crapo.
by The Dude Abides on Sep 19, 2011 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Forward thinking by the conference forefathers.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 19, 2011 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
so no one thinks Boise St belongs in a major conference
by Josie Becker on Sep 19, 2011 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
no one?
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some think
this whole superconference thing is done only to squeeze them out because they are so afraid. has nothing to do with $$$
so you think
it’s more likely that the entire NCAA has conspired against one school, and not that it’s a tiny little podunk school with no other sports programs or academic merit to offer
by Josie Becker on Sep 19, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Congrats you’re one of the best people in the world at what you do you get to live in Idaho for the next four years.
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by regfairfield on Sep 19, 2011 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Not sure about the "no one" part
While geography is getting more and more meaningless by the day, nobody would suggest Boise State is a fit for the ACC or the Big East. Really, only the Pac-whatever makes sense and they passed.
So there is 1 conference that makes sense and they said no. Doesn’t mean nobody thinks they belong in a major conference.
by Michael White on Sep 19, 2011 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions
They took TCU, which is not exactly around the corner
by Josie Becker on Sep 19, 2011 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions
A Dallas suburb is slightly easier logistically then travelling to Boise.
And the TCU add was a stretch that may not even happen after this is all said and done.
by Michael White on Sep 19, 2011 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah but Idaho
would make a complete and absolute mockery of it. TCU in the big east just a complete mockery.
Why would anyone want to bring in a program that would kick their collective asses?
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Penn St. and Florida St. are like, what?
by Josie Becker on Sep 19, 2011 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions
because improving your conference’s profile is always a good thing
by Josie Becker on Sep 19, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s just, you know. It’s just funny, it’s… funny, the way the story gets told and everything.
by Josie Becker on Sep 19, 2011 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Boise State’s a clown? Here to amuse you?
by Michael White on Sep 19, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Only the PAC 16 makes sense for Boise State. No way they could afford the travel of being in one of the East Coast conferences.
Sadly for Boise State they aren’t connected at the hip with Texas or Oklahoma like TT and OSU are, so they have absolutely no chance in joining any of those conferences. The only chance Boise State would have is if Texas and Texas Tech decided to go to the SEC. That would open up 2 spots in the PAC 16.
None of this has anything to do with Boise State being good enough or not to play in the conference (in football).
I don’t see any chain of events where Boise State enters the Pac-12. If Texas and the other Big 12 schools stay put or go somewhere else, the Pac 12 just won’t expand.
by Michael White on Sep 19, 2011 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions
I think it’s a forgone conclusion that the SEC, ACC, Big 10 (16?), and PAC 12 go to 16 teams each. I didn’t expect the ACC to be the ones to start this, but it looks like they have. The BIG12 is pretty much done so those schools will go somewhere.
All this will pretty much force Notre Dame (and a couple other schools) to join the Big 10.
they could have made it work in the MWC, with Utah and BYU and TCU. But little did they know, that all those schools had plans to make a better life somewhere else
by Josie Becker on Sep 19, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Getting pummeled in the Pac-10 hardly seems like a better life.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
they held their own against the Trojans
by Josie Becker on Sep 19, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Boise State did the best they could do to toughen their schedule and it didn’t work out for them in the long run.
I’m not sure I’d count on TCU to the Big East anymore though. They could stay put or try and get in somewhere else. The Big East might be getting picked apart pretty soon.
As Josie said, Utah, BYU, TCU and Boise State would have been a really good nucleus for a conference. MWC probably could have got Nevada, Hawaii and Fresno State as well.
The funny thing about all of this is the WAC actually expanded to 16 teams at one time. This expansion caused problems for many schools (academic and financial reasons) so 8 of them left to form the MWC in 1999. More and more schools have made the jump since then.
What happened to the WAC could very well happen to the bigger conferences that are looking to expand to 16 teams. The smaller schools are going to love the money they get from joining but the biggest schools in those conferences are just going to lose money. Those bigger schools have enjoyed their pie being split in 12. They might not like it so much when it gets cut into 16 pieces.
Just get it over with
and have the PAC-64. Then the second half of the season can be a tournament.
Boom
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Can they make space for my alma mater San Francisco State? They don't even have football anymore
but their women’s soccer is sometimes decent!
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you have to wait for the chaos to end
the same way I hope Long beach falls UP into the WAC or something when it is all said and done.
Eight 2-team divisions. Three rounds of conference playoffs
by Eric Stephen on Sep 19, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Nobody has a clue yet. For football reasons I would think it would have to be 2 8 team divisions just so they can setup their conference title game.
it’ll be the Pac-8 vs. the Mountain-8, and they’ll have a Championship game in a super stadium they’ll build in Vegas, that’ll also host the Super Bowl every year. I plan on riding my unicorn to Vegas to catch the game when Cal plays in it
by Josie Becker on Sep 19, 2011 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Greater odds of you riding your unicorn to Vegas
than Cal playing in the championship game.
by The Dude Abides on Sep 19, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions
3 games against your own division, 4 games against all teams in another division, rotating so you see each team in other divisions once every three years.
Two rounds of conference playoffs, beginning Thanksgiving weekend (or the weekend after).
I like it.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 19, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I doubt that
A repeat of a game during the regular season? Why would that be particularly compelling?
by Michael White on Sep 19, 2011 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions
You could alter the brackets each year so the semifinals wouldn’t have two divisions that played one another
by Eric Stephen on Sep 19, 2011 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Then the rematch is in the championship game.
Kind of kills the, “every game is a playoff game in college football” theory
by Michael White on Sep 19, 2011 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions
As it stands right now, every major conference with a title game has a potential rematch. Hard to avoid, and it hasn’t hampered the SEC
by Eric Stephen on Sep 19, 2011 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions
You deal with it, sure. Just adding another round of potential rematches (semi-finals) makes it less compelling to me, not more.
by Michael White on Sep 19, 2011 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions
But you can absolutely eliminate any rematches in the semifinals with a rotating bracket.
Regular season
North plays South
East plays West
Semifinal bracket
North plays East
South plays West
or something along those lines.
Also, I assumed poorly regarding the SEC. Last year was the only year of the last five that the SEC title game featured a rematch of the regular season.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 19, 2011 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions
North plays South
I know how this one ends.
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions
I hear you.
You also have to account for all the side deals that are about to or have been cut. Like Cal and Stanford requiring to play USC and UCLA every year. I’m also guessing the Arizona schools are going to be looking for similar deals if/when they move out of a division that plays the CA schools.
by Michael White on Sep 19, 2011 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Until Shawn Tolleson passes him, obviously.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 19, 2011 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
He only got that many because Tracy was forced to use Gagne more after DePodesta foolishly traded away Guillermo Mota.
#nottrue
by Eric Stephen on Sep 19, 2011 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Getting really upset about trading Guillermo Mota seems like such a weird concept now.
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by regfairfield on Sep 19, 2011 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I almost feel bad for Juan Encarnacion. Nobody ever used him as a “we shouldn’t have made that trade” example.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 19, 2011 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Other then that was the reason people could point to and say, don’t let Dan Evans be the GM anymore.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I remember being really mad when the Dodgers traded for Encarnacion, then signed him for 2/$8m because that winter there were the FA like Jose Guillen and Reggie Sanders signing for 2/$6m.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 19, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions
We extended Juan Encarnacion?
Then someone accepted him in a trade?
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by regfairfield on Sep 19, 2011 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions
He was arb eligible
Traded for him, then signed him
by Eric Stephen on Sep 19, 2011 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
If it makes him feel better, we shouldn’t have traded whoever Travis Ezi was for Juan Encarnacion.
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by regfairfield on Sep 19, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
At one time I was worried that Matt Kemp was Juan Encarnacion.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Matt Kemp with a pulled hammy, suffering from a 14 fever, and a nasty case of shingles is Juan Encarnacion
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 19, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions
and since we are talking about Juan Encarnacion on Talk Like A Pirate Day…with an eye patch.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 19, 2011 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I am glad you didn’t ask me what a 14 fever is
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 19, 2011 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I just assumed it was a really bad fever, on a scale of 1 to 10, where 10 is the worst kind of fever. :)
by Eric Stephen on Sep 19, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Beautiful plumage
the Carroll
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Age on day of first save
602 Mariano Rivera: 26 years, 170 days
601 Trevor Hoffman: 25 years, 198 days
by Eric Stephen on Sep 19, 2011 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions
regarding the NF/Qwikster story commented on above, this Oatmeal comic nails it.
http://theoatmeal.com/comics/netflix
Cracks me the hell up.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
that was awesome :)
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
It’s funny, but, streaming Firefly and getting Firefly DVD in the mail isn’t meat and buns. It’s a hamburger now or a hamburger later.
by Josie Becker on Sep 19, 2011 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions
But it’s not “now or later.”
- I want a roast beef sandwich.
- Roast beef sandwiches are not available. Can we interest you in chicken liver?
- I don’t want chicken liver, I want roast beef. I was here last week and I could get roast beef, though there was a wait.
- I don’t know what you’re talking about. However, we do have a sister restaurant. Perhaps you should check them out.
- Do you have a link?
- No.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions
you forgot
the broken link to the customer survey site
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
“These are the sandwiches we currently offer”
“Those sure are some fine sandwiches, but what happend to the Bourbon BBQ sandwich”
“Well the contract expired on that one”
“Oh”
“Yup”
“Can I special order the sandwich, have it here in a day or two?”
“Sure, just go to that restaurant next door.”
by Josie Becker on Sep 19, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions
If we had some ham
we could make a ham & cheese sandwich. If we had some cheese.
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
From Joe McDonald from ESPN Boston (yes, that site is different than ESPN.com)
After this morning’s Red Sox / Orioles tilt:
Ortiz: “F_this S_. that’s it.”
Reg brought this up last week, but Braun is having a fantastic season
wOBA:
Braun: .434
Kemp: .411 (2nd)
wRC+:
B: 179
K: 164
Bautista has a wRC+ of 186
If Braun reaches Bautista for being the best hitter in baseball, that in itself is impressive.
Offense in general seemed to be on fire last week.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Not what a father wants to see
on a daughter’s boyfriend:
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
I would be tempted to do all sorts of bad things
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 19, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Todd Marinovich's
little brother
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Not what I expect when someone offers tickets to the gun show.
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by regfairfield on Sep 19, 2011 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Everybody knows the gun tattoos go on the biceps, not the chest.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 19, 2011 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, now he’ll never be buried in a Jewish cemetery.
/not really true anyway
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I was in a Jewish fraternity
and my pledge class was impressed by the branding done by the African-american fraternities, so we decided we were going to brand each other.
one guy got spooked about the Jewish cemetery thing and went to ask his Rabbi about it, Rabbi called parents, Parents called school, school called national fraternity, national fraternity called chapter adviser, chapter adviser called chapter president, chapter president hazed the fuck out of all us pledges. I am not branded.
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 19, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m also not branded, but I am annoyed by urban legends. “You can’t be buried in a Jewish cemetery” is an urban legend told by Jewish moms to keep their children from getting tattoos.
I mean, it might result in that, if you want to be buried in an ultra-Orthodox cemetery, but for the people who are considering tattoos… no rabbi will stop your burial.
If you ask your rabbi about it, the conversation will go like this:
Q: “Rabbi, I want to get a tattoo, but I’m worried that it’ll mean that I won’t be buried in a Jewish cemetery.”
A: “You know that getting a tattoo won’t make you a better person, right? Why would you want to get a tattoo?”
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions
x
If I did ever get a tattoo, I would tattoo “BRANDEIS” across my shoulders, like these guys:
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m one of the only men in my fam not to have been locked up. If one of my daughters brought home a poser with tough guy tattoos and he fronted like that, he would not have fun at thanksgiving.
And yeah…I have two daughters…pictures like that make me say Oy vey.
by Lex in Brooklyn on Sep 19, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
full disclosure
I had a boyfriend with two six shooters tattoed on his chest. That was not the extent of his tattoos, either. Maddz Daddz wasn’t wildly impressed by him. He actually kind of ignored him.
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
Tough act
for Gary to follow
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Or easy
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Sep 19, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
you mean there are other jackholes with 6-guns on their chest?
is it a club?
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 19, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Unless Maddz dated this dude.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I have 2 of these, not pictures of it on my tits
by keithc13 on Sep 19, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Things I Don't Have That Will Surprise No One
1. Guns
2. Tats of guns
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I have no tats
but I do own a gun
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
nope
I grew up in a household full of guns. The old man kept a loaded pistol under his car seat “just in case”.
The gun I have is an old auto-loader shotgun that I used to hunt with 30 years ago. It’s been about that long since I fired it.
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
There would be no quicker way to a dead/injured Humma than a Humma owning a gun.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Bride need not shoot me. You all know she is much taller than I; all she need do is squish me under her heel.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
I never thought I would die this way, but I've always really hoped.
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not often
I have a glock .45 which I keep unloaded with gun and clip in separate parts of house
and a .30 / .30 lever action rifle (think the Chuck Conners Rifle man) which is wrapped up in the garage. I used to do a whole bunch of backpacking and I packed heat with me
I really should take both to smith before I shoot again
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 19, 2011 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions
my younger brother
keeps trying to get me to get a tatoo. I have no desire for one. I have to problems when them, I just don’t want one.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 19, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions
to problems = no problems*
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 19, 2011 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I never wanted one until my dad passed – then I got the same one he had on his arm on my arm
I forget I have it all the time, then will catch a glimpse of it and it looks like my dad’s arm
I like that
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 19, 2011 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I got misty at that
that’s really cool HJ
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 19, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions
thats cool
if you are going to put something permenant on your body make it something meaningful
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Guns bug me, tattoos don’t. /shrug
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
I actually hate guns
I don’t know why I still have the one in my closet. Not like I’d ever shoot it again.
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
I’m actually fairly certain that my distaste for guns is more classist and snobby than anything else
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
That's probably
the dumbest/lamest looking gun I’ve ever seen
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
oh?
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
by nolander on Sep 19, 2011 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I was thinking the same thing!
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions
from the movie...
[about his pistol grips]
Patton: They’re ivory. Only a pimp from a cheap New Orleans whorehouse would carry a pearl-handled pistol.
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 19, 2011 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions
He was a vain man
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
an Olympic athlete, great general, sadist, and total nut ball
that nonsense of being a reincarnated roman….jeez
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 19, 2011 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Ted Williams thinks he’s a pussy.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions
who knows what the eskimo head is thinking
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 19, 2011 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Another fine product
of San Marino
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
See comment above
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
There is an entire generation that knows George C. Scott for his role in Man Getting Hit By Football than for Patton.
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by regfairfield on Sep 19, 2011 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions
The Hospital
is maybe my favorite Scott movie
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
And the previous generation who knew him as the crazy man in the war room of Dr Strangelove
Scott’s most famous early role was in Dr. Strangelove, or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb, where he played the part of General “Buck” Turgidson. It is revealed on the DVD documentary that after having shot many takes of any given scene, Stanley Kubrick would frequently ask Scott to redo it in an “over the top” fashion. Kubrick would then proceed to use this version in the final cut, which Scott supposedly resented.4
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
You just start the countdown baby
and old Bucky will be back before you can say Blast Off!
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
#2: Those chicks in “Bad Lieutenant.”
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Yep.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions
By knowing what we are, we will know how to take care of ourselves
if we are ignorant we won’t know.
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 19, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Apparently this dude's dad died from Dr. Pepper
by Eric Stephen on Sep 19, 2011 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Tommy Blackjack feels suddenly vindicated
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
I need
the We Win pic here
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 19, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I'll be honest
There were far more results than I expected when I typed “Dr. Pepper tattoo” into Google image search.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 19, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't have a problem with tattoos
I have a problem with stupid tattoos
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
I'm pretty sure
I was on that lot a few years ago
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Some house tour
and I may be mis-remembering. But I get dragged to a lot of house tours through the years.
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
very much
A good friend was some sort of big wheel at The Gamble House in Pasadena. She would get me on the tours
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
that seems something I would love to do. I think I heard about an old stadium tour you were leading, and I’m still bummed I missed that
by Josie Becker on Sep 19, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Wasn’t me
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Last historical tour I was on
was one of the original Busch Gardens off the arroyo in Pasadena. There’s still quite a few remnants of it if you know where to look. It was great.
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Also
I live on a street that used to be called “Millionaire’s row” in Altadena. There’s still a few old mansions on the street. One from Andrew McNally of Rand-McNally fame. Another was the Zane Grey mansion. Still another was from the Scripps newspaper dynasty family. It’s now a school auditorium.
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
I did some old house tour in the Historic Adams district around x-mas one year – there was food in each house along the tour
was very fun
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 19, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I did that
25 years ago when a friend was thinking of buying there.
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
We got married at a B%B there. First wedding they ever did. They don’t appear to be in business as a B&B anymore but it was called the Salisbury House.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Was the wedding meal Salisbury Steak, and if not, why not?
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Reminder
drop a line in the fanpost if you plan on attending Friday Night’s TBLA Bowling event at Corbin Bowl in Tarzana at 8pm.
http://www.truebluela.com/2011/9/7/2411241/tbla-bowling-night-9-23
So far we have 5 confirmed, but plenty more who said they were likely to attend. I need to call the alley tomorrow and need to have a general head count.
No, the night of the bowling he will be
KCAL! FTMFW!
by robotmadeofnails on Sep 19, 2011 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Don't know but the formula for FIP
at least some form of it is supposed to be right there on the cover.
Hey Nola
so I’ve been checking out this DC Reboot stuff. It’s like a real real reboot? Like Barbara Gordon wasn’t shot reboot?
I just saw that a bunch of the #1’s are out right now. I assumed they were just copying Marvel’s .1 concept, but this is sort of like, “hey fandom. Forget everything you know!”
by Josie Becker on Sep 19, 2011 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm thinking its gonna be their "ultimate" universe
hopefully it has more long term success and tries to not be so… XTREME
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
so they’re running simultaneously? Batman #6xx and Batman #1?
by Josie Becker on Sep 19, 2011 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions
i can tell you’re really into it right now : p
by Josie Becker on Sep 19, 2011 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions
trying to keep up with comics
is wallet suicide. And yeah, the whole reboot thing just seems a bit silly, but it could be cool.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
fbihop
i saw the gif you posted of the mayweather headbutt. do you have the knockout by any chance? thanks.
Kenley Jansen is amazing
Line up all the shitty hitters with great arms in the farm system and put them on the mound.
Loney, James? Is there a Loney, James here, you’re on the mound next
by Josie Becker on Sep 19, 2011 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Let’s sell it to Showtime as a series: “The Seven Million Dollar Arm.”
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions
OK, fine. Let’s take all the pitchers and see if we can find somebody in the Dodger system who can hit.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions
would the infield get annoyed
when Gwynn tries to catch every popup?
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Amazing just how average LF is these days after Braun / Holliday.
Rk Player OPS+ Year Age Tm PA BA OBP SLG OPS Pos
1 Ryan Braun 168 2011 27 MIL 595 .336 .400 .597 .997 *7/D
2 Matt Holliday 154 2011 31 STL 503 .295 .388 .528 .915 *7/D
3 Carlos Lee 119 2011 35 HOU 610 .277 .338 .455 .792 *73/D
4 Gerardo Parra 115 2011 24 ARI 458 .296 .358 .438 .796 *79/8
5 Logan Morrison 114 2011 23 FLA 491 .249 .330 .462 .792 *7/D3
6 Chris Heisey 113 2011 26 CIN 275 .252 .303 .496 .799 *789
7 Laynce Nix 108 2011 30 WSN 338 .256 .305 .465 .769 *79/38D
8 Cody Ross 105 2011 30 SFG 461 .240 .325 .405 .730 *798
9 Alfonso Soriano 103 2011 35 CHC 480 .243 .288 .465 .753 *7/D
10 Jonny Gomes 97 2011 30 TOT 363 .211 .331 .393 .723 *7/D9
11 Jason Bay 95 2011 32 NYM 508 .246 .329 .375 .704 *7
12 Martin Prado 91 2011 27 ATL 550 .262 .306 .389 .695 *75/3
13 Raul Ibanez 91 2011 39 PHI 535 .243 .290 .423 .712 *7/D
14 Ryan Ludwick 90 2011 32 TOT 533 .238 .311 .363 .674 *7/9D
15 Tony Gwynn 86 2011 28 LAD 338 .258 .310 .355 .664 *78/9
Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Play Index Tool Used
Generated 9/19/2011.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Sure our prospects may not be good, but neither are anyone elses.
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by regfairfield on Sep 19, 2011 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Laynce?
Who names their kids Laynce?
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Ones who name their other kid Jayson?
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by regfairfield on Sep 19, 2011 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions
No Offense to Anyone
But my wife and I have a running tally of Kaden/Kayden/Kaiden & Jaden/Jayden/Jaiden going. It’s amazing how popular that form is.
If you include alternate spellings, Aidan is the most popular boy’s name in the US.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions
yup
It’s gotten so bad, my buddy named his son Shayden. We get it people: you like the ending. (In fairness, I liked Kieran for a time.)
oof
It’s bad. Real bad.
Madison seems to have died down. Except for the lefty up north.
by Lex in Brooklyn on Sep 19, 2011 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Offense is trending down
We may realize that we had a 10-12 year period of high level production but the norms are pretty much what the 80s brought us.
I don't know how many of you watch Breaking Bad
but last night’s episode was terrific
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Pretty good.
Surprised they wrapped up the cartel storyline all in 1 episode though.
The previews made it seem like it’d be an ongoing thing.
5 innings, 3 runs?
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by regfairfield on Sep 19, 2011 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I was wondering if Brian Matusz had the record for most innings thrown with an ERA over 9.5.
Sadly he’s only half way to Steve Blass and won’t even reach Roy Halladay.
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by regfairfield on Sep 19, 2011 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s my mind, but I don’t know how to do things like figure out a league difficulty factor yet.
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by regfairfield on Sep 19, 2011 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions
67.2 innings, 10.64 ERA in 2000.
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by regfairfield on Sep 19, 2011 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Ned would be lucky
to get Dotel for that
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
damn, wonder how he turned it all around.
by dodgerpreacher on Sep 19, 2011 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Sent down to minors, had a epiphany on a bus to bumfuck Idaho.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
There’s a Boise State joke to be made here, but I’ll be damned if I can find it.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions
He detested being called Pigfucker by the dude in my fantasy baseball league that drafted Halladay that year.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 19, 2011 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions
- — I knew it!
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Argh. That should say, #5.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Pujols is mean?
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions
They’re both terrible tippers and save soap scraps in tins for shaving?
/Josie
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meanest?
I think they meant biggest whiners
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 19, 2011 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions
also, only like 1/3 of the teams, and it looks like they polled only the Rays, Orioles, Reds, Astros, Pirates and Cubs.
Yet, amazingly, Pierzynski still ended up #1. It’s almost like he has a universal reputation for being a complete cock.
I get the feeling that if life is ever discovered on other planets, we’ll say, “We come in peace,” and they’ll be like, “Yeah, right — what about Pierzynski?”
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Last off day of the season for the Dodgers
I see TBLA is enjoying it to the tune of ~1000 comments.
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Curt Sandoval on KABC-7's 11 PM news last night
must have gotten fooled by Fan Appreciation Day, which he noted it was, because he said that it was the last home game of the season and that the Dodgers end with a nine-game road trip. Uh, no, Curt, that is incorrect.
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i made this same mistake, assumed it was the last home game before i saw an add for tomorrow’s Giants series.
But you are not paid to broadcast news.
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The 2011 Pecota Team Predictions were way off this year for just about every team except Boston.
Not sure how the other predictors did.
I never gave up on the dream of mediocrity.
Actually, I’m serious. Every team gets hot at some point; when things looked bleak for the Dodgers, they had not had a hot streak longer than three games. It was not much to predict that they’d put things together for some sustained period at some point, and it would be enough to get them even.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions
We are not as bad as we looked at the beginning of the season, we simply found a different way to embrace mediocrity.
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by regfairfield on Sep 19, 2011 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions
This year
We are to win-lost record what Eric Karros was to RBI.
by kinbote on Sep 19, 2011 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Beauty
Our numbers will be there in the end
by Eric Stephen on Sep 19, 2011 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Did we? We have been good since the all-star break, that does not seem like most of the year.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Of course it was far too late for them to contend. But they weren’t going to contend.
We all bet on this at the beginning of the year, and many of us had them within a couple of games of .500. They did it by playing shitty, then playing better, but they did it.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions
phil cmon
All Star Break – 41-51
August 21 – 57-69
Today – 76-76
I’d say they’ve been good for 1 month of the season (starting August 21).
loving the selective endpointing, again, after you called nolander out for it earlier.
If they are 76-76 now, and 41-51 at the break, it means they’ve gone 25-15 since the break. What part of what Phil said was wrong?
In a battle of selective endpointing, they are both looking back to try to find where the hot streak started. One says the ASB. The other says August 21. Both POV have value, but both are selective endpointing.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions
aren’t hot streaks, by their very nature, selective in their end pointing?
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
Yes.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions
anything thats not a full season is selective endpointing
it gets silly when everyone try to call everyone out for it
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
We can all figure out when a hot streak starts. I was only calling you out because it seemed like you were saying his streak numbers represented his true talent level, and not his overall numbers.
wha?
the whole discussion was about whether G Scott saw something in his swing or not.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
or more accurately
whether it was possible that g scott had seen something in his swing
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
yeah, but one made a general statement with a convenient, existent starting point, and the other went and found right where the hot streak started and trolled the first poster with it. They’re both right, but being agreeable, kind and respectful are important too, but it’s Joey Joe’s world and rent is due.
All true.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions
this is TBLA
what is this about “agreeable” and “respectful”
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
I just dont think you can claim the hot streak started at the All Star Break.
They were -10 at the ASB.
The Dodgers didnt crack -7 below 500 until August 27th.
Can’t agree, I was disagreeing with the notion we stunk most of the year. I’d say 1/2 a season of playing very good baseball does not constitute stunk for most of the year. If Kinbote had said we stunk for the first half then he’d be 100% accurate.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
yep
AL East:
Boston 93-69
New York 92-70
Tampa Bay 84-78
Baltimore 81-81
Toronto 76-86
AL Central:
Detroit 83-79
Minnesota 83-79
Chicago 82-80
Cleveland 74-88
Kansas City 69-93
AL West:
Texas 84-78
Oakland 83-79
Los Angeles 78-84
Seattle 70-92
NL East:
Philadelphia 91-71
Atlanta 87-75
Florida 84-78
New York 80-82
Washington 70-92
NL Central:
St. Louis 87-75
Milwaukee 85-77
Cincinnati 81-81
Chicago 80-82
Pittsburgh 71-91
Houston 68-94
NL West:
San Francisco 90-72
Los Angeles 87-75
Colorado 83-79
San Diego 80-82
Arizona 74-88
Was that the first, second, third, or 78th release by BPro? :)
by Eric Stephen on Sep 19, 2011 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I pulled it from another board but the author wrote it March 3rd, 2011.
Maybe BP adjusted after that not sure.
Sure seems like they missed the difference in talent between the top 5% and bottom 5%. The best teams were way better than they projected, and the worse teams way worse.
It was weird. They did the annual here are our Pecota predictions post, then oh wait we screwed up, then we need to do some more revisions. I don’t remember the dates though.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 19, 2011 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions
oh definitely could have been worse.
I doubt many could have predicted the Twins would be 59-93 right now.
Having every single player under perform or get hurt will do that to a team.
Also giving Drew Butera get 230 PA while shoving something called Ben Revere down everyone’s throats.
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by regfairfield on Sep 19, 2011 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Makes Mathis look like Brian McCann. .155/.191/.224
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by regfairfield on Sep 19, 2011 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Oooh Possible History
Butera’s 26 OPS+ is the fifth lowest for any non pitcher with at least 350 big league PA.
Since the Twins love him because they are a very very dumb organization, there’s a good chance he’ll be the first person with 400+ PA and an OPS+ under 20.
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by regfairfield on Sep 19, 2011 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Also remember the Twins traded Wilson Ramos for Matt Capps a year ago.
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by regfairfield on Sep 19, 2011 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions
San Diego was trendy because while the lost A-Gon they got way better up the middle and there’s no way Ludwick could be that bad again right? I had us fighting them for third place.
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by regfairfield on Sep 19, 2011 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Nobody was who they thought they werre
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
My dad told me the Dodgers would be bad this season.. it was heated and I didn’t talk to him for a week. I regret that, hes never steered me wrong.
This just in:
The Dodgers will be mediocre next year, too. That might take any form — maybe they’ll do poorly, then get hot at the end, when it doesn’t matter; or maybe they’ll be a contender that collapses; or maybe they’ll be fringey average all year long. But when the book on the 2012 Dodgers is written, it will be in the Book of Meh.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions
too soon to tell
lots could happen. Sands, Gordon, & now Loney look like likely starters in 2012. a month ago, that might not’ve been the case.
I dunno. I agree on Loney — he may have reversed his fortune — but Sands and Gordon have looked like likely starters in 2012 for months — even given some lousy MLB performance.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Kind of amazing the Astro’s have lost 100 games for the first time in their franchise history considering they were the first modern expansion team. First three years they lost 96 games.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I think the Dodgers have the longest run without 100 losses. Cards and Yankees both lost 100+ in 1908.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 19, 2011 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Hell, even losing 90 games is a rarity for the Dodgers
2005
1992
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1944
1937
1912
1910
1909
1908
1905
1904
1898
by Eric Stephen on Sep 19, 2011 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions
To be fair, Sharperson did hit .328/.424/.433 before the All-Star break that year, but remember also that he played in 78 of the 88 games, and only started 48 games before the break.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 19, 2011 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions
considering they were the first modern expansion team
Weren’t the Angels and Senators v2.0 added to the AL in ’61, then Houston and the Mets to the NL in ’62? Give the Halos their due!
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Astros were the first team in a completely new market in the modern age, I think is the sentiment
by Josie Becker on Sep 19, 2011 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions
anyone see Ramona's tweets to eephus blue today?
Apparently Sellers goes home after each game to Huntington Beach and helps tuck his younger siblings in.
link
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
I heard he has only tucked them in 6 of the last 53 nights.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 19, 2011 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions
1-0 Orioles
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Runners on the corners, nobody out, top first
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Sac fly, 2-0 Baltimore. One out.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Markakis SB. Man on second, still one out.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Davis base hit. Play at the plate. Markakis slides into Varitek, knocks it loose, safe. 3-0 Orioles. Runner safe at second. Still one out.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Some dude I’ve never heard of got out somehow. Runner goes to third, bringing up some other dude I’ve never heard of.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Lackey about to make his 30th pitch in the inning.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Foul out to A-Gon. Inning’s over.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh, they’ll collapse.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes. I stand by my prediction.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I’d like to see Arizona end on a hot note just to see where they fit in history from one year to the next. 23+ right now and counting.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Fuck you, Ruiz.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions
John Lackey standing in the way of keeping the Red Sox ahead of the Rays in the loss column. Whoops.
Kelly was probably a teenager then
I figure he’s the best person to ask
by Michael White on Sep 19, 2011 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Just be sure to call them the Superbas. Otherwise he’ll get confused.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 19, 2011 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Only one dude on a blog in 1956, but his intentions were vague since he only typed “FIRST”
by Eric Stephen on Sep 19, 2011 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions
blogging was difficult then, and usually just really annoyed the teletype operator
by Josie Becker on Sep 19, 2011 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions
The MLB Angels, who took their name from the PCL Angels.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Magna Carta Angelica
1035
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
here's the short of it
Minor League team in the PCL, played at LA Wrigley Field in Central LA. Wore red and blue, and were the first team to wear the interlocking LA
by Josie Becker on Sep 19, 2011 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions
It's why my dad's an Angels fan
To me they are OC all the way. To him they are OG.
by Lex in Brooklyn on Sep 19, 2011 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Flawed thinking
The MLB Angels paid to have the same name as the PCL franchise, but are about as related to the PCL Angels as the current touring group called the Beach Boys is related to the original 60s Beach Boys. Sure Steve Bilko played for both teams…..
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most fandom
is flawed thinking….for him, the Dodgers always felt like NY’s team
by Lex in Brooklyn on Sep 19, 2011 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions
weird to think the LA area has only been awarded three expansion teams, and two of them were hockey teams
by Josie Becker on Sep 19, 2011 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions
we are so awesome
established teams want some of this action
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It’s a continuity thing though. San Diego takes on the Padre name. Milwaukee the Brewer name. Kansas City the Royals. Washington Senators (II). The new Cleveland Browns!
You’re gonna tell Browns fans their current team has nothing to do with the old Browns?
by Josie Becker on Sep 19, 2011 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Kansas City the Royals
I dunno. KC took the A’s and they stayed the A’s. The Senators changed their name both times they moved.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh, and the Pilots-Brewers changed their name, too.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions
talking about expansion franchises, which are making an attempt to connect with the city’s sports continuity.
by Josie Becker on Sep 19, 2011 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Milwaukee was not an expansion franchise.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions
yes the storied Seattle Pilots, can’t believe I forgot about them
by Josie Becker on Sep 19, 2011 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions
yes the storied Seattle Pilots, can’t believe I forgot about them
by Josie Becker on Sep 19, 2011 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions
see also Milwaukee, then Atlanta, Braves
by Eric Stephen on Sep 19, 2011 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions
y’all are talking current franchises moving and keeping their old name. Apples and oranges to an expansion team take an old minor league or defunct franchise name
by Josie Becker on Sep 19, 2011 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Seems like there are plenty of examples of
a) expansion teams that take on a historical name
b) expansion teams that take on brand-new names
c) moving teams that keep their old name
d) moving teams that take on new names, whether historical or otherwise
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions
we’ve moved far from the point, which is, there’s something to be said about a team taking on the identity of a defunct team, and there is some connection between the PCL Angels and the current Angels for that reason
by Josie Becker on Sep 19, 2011 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions
the PCL Angels where not defunct I thought
they just sold the name
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The PCL Angels were moved to Spokane, became the Indians. Moved to Albuquerque, became the Dukes. These were all the Dodgers AAA team. 2000 the Dukes were sold to Portland, became the Beavers, then the Dodgers and Padres swapped teams.
Beavers were folded so that Portland could have a MLS soccer team. So the Angels franchise is technically defunct
by Josie Becker on Sep 19, 2011 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions
hold on, I’m wrong, apparently the Portand Beavers became the Tuscon Padres, so technically the Angel franchise is still alive.
by Josie Becker on Sep 19, 2011 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I just meant at the time the Angels moved to LA
there was already an LA Angels.
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by the time the Angels were founded, the Dodgers had already moved the PCL Angels to Spokane
by Josie Becker on Sep 19, 2011 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions
the Dodgers owned all the rights to the Angels, took their cap logo, then sold the name to the AL expansion franchise
by Josie Becker on Sep 19, 2011 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions
By the time the Angels were founded the Los Angeles Dodgers had won a World Series.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions
by the time Dodger Stadium was opened, the LA Dodgers already had a WS banner to hang
by Josie Becker on Sep 19, 2011 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions
the Milwaukee Brewers or the Angels could wear 1920s throwbacks, as an example, but it’s highly unlikely the Giants ever wear Seals throwbacks, because it’s not part of their brand
by Josie Becker on Sep 19, 2011 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions
The Rays do just that
with uh… some Saint Peter team or something like that.
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The Titans wear Houston Oiler jerseys
those fucking fucks.
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right….and I like when expansion teams do that actually
by Lex in Brooklyn on Sep 19, 2011 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions
You’re gonna tell Browns fans their current team has nothing to do with the old Browns?
Yes
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Losing?
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by regfairfield on Sep 19, 2011 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions
No
The NFL made some bizarre ruling that the Ravens were a new franchise that kept all of the Browns’ assets and that the “new” Cleveland Browns are part of the same franchise that dates back to Paul Brown.
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Someone I know claims that the Angels were the first MLB team in LA.
and he isn’t referring to the PCL Angels… he actually claims that the MLB LA Angels came before the LA Dodgers…
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well that’s just a misinterpretation of history
by Josie Becker on Sep 19, 2011 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Tell me about it. I showed him the dates on Wikipedia. He claims they are wrong, and actually went in to edit them.
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Is he still ticking?
/Swayze
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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
angels could be 2.5 back of the wild card if they win?
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Giants are on an eight game winning streak and four back on the Wild Card.
Yeah, didn’t have a clue.
Their E number in the wild card is 6; in the division it’s 5.
Gonna be really difficult to eliminate them in LA.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 19, 2011 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions
They need to get out of LA having gained 1 game on the Dbax.
If they are 4 out going into that series…then you say a sweep and they are right in it
And if that were to happen…then the Dodgers-Dbax games would be really important to end the year.
AZ is winning the shit out of the K johnson A Hill trade
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Red Sox on the corners, one out.
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Busted double play on a ball batted by, um, Pedy, becomes merely a FC, 5-4; Ellsbury scores, 3-1.
High fly ball off the wall by Ortiz. Second and third, two out, still 3-1 Orioles.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Good lord, can’t anybody pitch?
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Count goes full against Lowrie…
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Home run out of the park. 3-run HR; Red Sox 4, Orioles 3.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Somebody gets out on some play, inning over.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Isn’t Brian Matusz pitching? Mr. 15 home runs in 43 innings coming into tonight?
This isn’t news.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 19, 2011 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions
It might not be a surprise, but in terms of “this happened a few seconds ago,” it most certainly is news.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions
It feels like it was another century that the Orioles were good.
by Lex in Brooklyn on Sep 19, 2011 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions
I knew they have struggled for a while
They haven’t had a winning season since making the 1997 ALCS, but it’s even worse than that. They haven’t even won 70 games since 2006, when they won exactly 70.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 19, 2011 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions
They never re build
that’s their problem
by Lex in Brooklyn on Sep 19, 2011 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Lackey picks up where he left off
Adams, whoever that is, singles.
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Tatum double-play. Nobody on two out, Angle up for Baltimore.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions
6-3. Inning over.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Lackey's affect on the mound
always reminds me of a disgruntled little league parent.
by Lex in Brooklyn on Sep 19, 2011 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Two on, nobody out, bottom of the second.
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Ellsbury flies out; Varitek, who had been on second, tags and goes to third. Corners, one out.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Fair ball down the left field line. rattles in the corner. Varitek scores, but McDonald runs through the stop sign, gets into a rundown, he’s out. Scutaro, the batter-runner, is on second, 5-3 Red Sox, two out.
Intentional walk of Adrian Gonzalez now. Up comes Pedroia.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Pitching change, which might be a good idea.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Chris Jakuboskas in now.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Base hit by Pedroia. Scutaro scores. 6-3 Bostons.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Weird play at first, but Ortiz is out. Inning over.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Boston always seems to have amazingly bad third base coaches
The guy was waving McDonald around third, then changed his mind and put up the stop sign just as he touched 3B, causing him to slip and fall, getting into a rundown. If he puts up the stop sign earlier instead of initially waving him around, he stops at 3B. Also, if he never puts up the stop sign, McDonald probably scores.
by The Dude Abides on Sep 19, 2011 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions
He was saying “No no no,” but McDonald thought he was saying, “Go go go”
by Eric Stephen on Sep 19, 2011 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Pinning your hopes on Brian Matusz is foolish.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Hah. Seriously.
They are, alas, dead to a lot of people and have been for awhile. We shouldnt pin hopes and dreams on them at this point.
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Stanton, 2 HR today
56 homeruns before turning 22
by Julio Nievas on Sep 19, 2011 4:56 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Holy shit
Here is the video. What a blast. Galarragan.
“A fine union of bat and ball.”
by Eric Stephen on Sep 19, 2011 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Even Paul Warfield
couldn’t catch up to that one.
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All the kids say
who?
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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
They have to know he must have been something to have his name up there. (The Dolphins ring of honor can be seen in the video and the HR flies right over Warfield’s name.) But yeah.
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his swing is so very short, it’s amazing. no movement, no hitches, just start, go, and go quick. Love it.
That would be the usual result.
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by David Young on Sep 19, 2011 7:31 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Fuck you, Ruiz.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Speaking of the Red Sox, did y'all see this?
http://mlb.sbnation.com/2011/9/19/2436590/if-mlb-gameday-were-completely-accurate
Sometimes Grant can be pretty damned hilarious.
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The guy in the middle is thinking the same thing
by Lex in Brooklyn on Sep 19, 2011 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Not like muscles didn’t exist before steroids did.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
they never did test positive
though cushing got nailed for the same hormone manny did.
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Sure But This Didn't Happen In One Year Without Them
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by regfairfield on Sep 19, 2011 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Pic on the left — is that ScarJo?
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions
from “he’s got muscles, but we could still probably hang out, drink a Corona, go surfin” to “that man is going to rip his baby like a phone book”
by Josie Becker on Sep 19, 2011 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Cushing is truly an intense man
steroids or not he works as hard as anyone in the business, and I give him credit for that.
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I went with Kelly and his son to see USC practice a few years back, and we expected Taylor Mays to be the one to see on the practice field. Mays was completely ripped, but it was Cushing who just blew everyone away. Crazy muscular up close.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 19, 2011 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions
so what time does the complaining
about mariano getting a bunch of media attention start? I want to complain about the people complaining, and I want to be ready.
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by nolander on Sep 19, 2011 5:10 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Dee Gordon has 18 infield hits in 47 games
The only Dodgers with more this season are Andre Ethier (23) and Jamey Carroll (21). Dee has a decent shot at leading the team.
I’m gonna guess it’s a dead ball era dude.
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No idea of the record
but Ichiro’s high in a season is 64 infield hits (last year).
Brett Butler had 109 infield hits in 1992.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 19, 2011 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Butler in 1992 went berserk with the bunt.
In 1991, Butler had 97 infield hits (Baseball-Reference only has infield hits broken down back to 1988, but Butler’s next best season was 51 infield hits), and 21 bunt hits (pretty much in line with his work for a decade or so). He tried 10 sacrifice hits, and was successful four times.
In 1992, Butler had 109 infield hits, and a whopping 42 bunt hits. But he also had 39 sacrifice bunt attempts (!!), and was successful 24 times. Craziness.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 19, 2011 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Butler in 1992 only had 34 singles to the outfield.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 19, 2011 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Butler in 1992 had 25 singles with runners in scoring position, and 10 of them didn’t drive in a run. One of those 10 non-run-scoring singles came with a man (Jose Offerman) on third base.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 19, 2011 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions
But he also had 39 sacrifice bunt attempts (!!), and was successful 24 times.
This seems terrible for a man who is supposed to be a good bunter, only a 61.5% success rate. That’s a lot of time to bunt into force, DP, or pop up the bunt.
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MLB average was a 72% success rate on sacrifices in 1992 FWIW.
Definitely bad.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 19, 2011 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Not really paying attention anymore, but the Sox announcers are shouting, and the Orioles score twice. 6-5 Boston still leads.
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More shit happens
And it’s 7-5 Red Sox in the third.
Oh wait, more shit is happening. 8-5 Red Sox.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions
9-5 now.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Pitching change.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions
10-5.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh, forget it. More runs come in while I’m on the phone. Who the hell knows what the score is now. It’s at least 11-5.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions
If it helps, I stopped paying attention a while ago.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 19, 2011 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions
But you’ll miss the totally huge Baltimore comebazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions
A shit storm
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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Things I did not know until now
Secret service agent extraordinaire Aaron Pierce is in Moneyball. He plays special assistant to the GM and former national crosschecker Ron Hopkins
by Josie Becker on Sep 19, 2011 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions
if your doorman judges who can come in the building based on who they’ve seen come into other buildings, sure
by Josie Becker on Sep 19, 2011 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions
General definition
National cross checker’s job it is to collect information on the top players and make sure the evaluations are consistent.
This game will be seen as
it was hard for the Phillies to stay motivated with clinching HFA all but certain.
Write off Halladay's start as "hitter's park"?
cal. lakers. dodgers. packers. chelsea.
vols. rangers. galaxy.
John Lackey
can’t pitch with lead, leaves with one on, one out, top of the 5th with Red Sox leading 11-8.
And Terry Francona also drinks Bigelow Tea.
Can the Orioles keep the Red Sox from scoring any more runs
and can the Boston bullpen hold a 3 run lead for 4 more innings.
John Lackey now has a 6.49 ERA…and a 12-12 record.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 19, 2011 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Carlos Ruiz doubles, trying to prevent a loss for Halladay.
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it’d be 7-0 if Theriot were playing Shortstop.
by G.Scott on Sep 19, 2011 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Angels got out of a 2nd & 3rd, 1 out, 5-man infield situation in the bottom of the 9th. To extras in Toronto! 2-2
John Farrell had Brett Lawrie sacrifice with no outs, 1st & 2nd BTW, to get to that point.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 19, 2011 6:38 PM PDT up reply actions
The McDonald trade has paid off!
Finally.
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by David Young on Sep 19, 2011 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
It would be nice, that is for sure… Although I’d rather he gets a ND and gives up a lot of runs.
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I want Arizona to win, so the possibility of us knocking the Giants out of the NL West in our series increases.
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It’s super low anyway. But yeah it would be nice.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 19, 2011 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions
An Arizona sweep + a Dodgers sweep would do it, right?
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The number is 5, so yeah, only that with a slight room for error.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 19, 2011 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions
5 is the Dbacks magic number, or just by how much they lead?
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The E number for the Giants for the wild card is still 6, because Craig Kimbrel just allowed a walk-off 2-run shot to Omar Infante.
So the Dodgers can’t officially eliminate the Giants from the playoffs.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 19, 2011 6:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Gonzalez overused Kimbrel this year. It’s finally starting to show.
Nothing is ever easy.
by drulenarendes on Sep 19, 2011 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Also: Kimbrel, still not close to Orel Hershiser’s record.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 19, 2011 7:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I doubt that record ever gets broken.
Nothing is ever easy.
by drulenarendes on Sep 19, 2011 7:09 PM PDT up reply actions
People used to say that about Drysdale.
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Arizona can get a come from behind win after Kennedy gets knocked out.
Nothing is ever easy.
by drulenarendes on Sep 19, 2011 7:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Heading to the bottom of the tenth in Toronto. 2-2.
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Let's say the Brewers lose
tonight (trailing 3-1 in 6th). The Phillies Magic Number for HFA would be 1. Kendrick is supposed pitch game 1 of a day/night doubleheader, if the Phillies beat the Nationals in that game, they would clinch everything.
Cliff Lee is scheduled to pitch game 2.
So if the Brewers lose, do you flip it, have Lee pitch game one with your full lineup and hope you win so you can write off the night cap?
Actually
if the Brewers lose, the Phillies would clinch HFA since the best the Brewers could do is tie the Phillies and the Phillies won their head to head games 4-3.
So the Phillies could either be hanging around waiting for the end of the Milwaukee game and then do a celebration tonight, give the afternoon off to the regulars and then play them in the night cap.
2011 Draft Sleepers: National League West by John Sickels
LOS ANGELES DODGERS: O’Koyea Dickson, 1B: OK, I just have to write about O’Koyea, and he hit well enough in the Pioneer League for me to do so: .333/.402/.603 with 13 homers, 19 walks, and 44 strikeouts in 189 at-bats. A 12th round pick out of Sonoma State, he has excellent power in his 5-11, 215 frame, but will need to tighten up the strike zone against better competition. If he can do that, he has more than enough power to make noise in the minor leagues and perhaps in the majors as well.
Also
Link to the article at Minor League Ball
http://www.minorleagueball.com/2011/9/19/2436826/2011-draft-sleepers-national-league-west
well
you see how he rocks back? That’s really good!
you see how he rocks forward to generate power in his swing? That’s really not good. He’s going to have to learn how to hit without that if he’s going to make it passed high school breaking pitches.
Someone throw up the Brandon Signal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu8U7DdCdMM&NR=1
Video interviewing O’Koyea’s father about O’Koyea. Kind of a plug for the First Base Foundation, but he seems like a good dude.
Also, it’s pronounced Oh-Koy-YAY
Really?
The accent is at the end? Like you’re cheering? Oh-koy-YAAAAAYYYYY!
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Just saw the Phillies-Cards result
Halladay 18-6, 2.42 ERA. Yay! One thing I noticed is that Charlie Manuel REALLY wants to play the Cardinals in the NLDS (plus the added bonus of possibly getting Halladay the win). STL was leading 3-1 going into the bottom of the 6th. Halladay had already thrown about 80 pitches in his 6 innings of work. He was due up 4th in the inning, and sure enough, somebody doubled, and Manuel let him bat with two out and a runner on 2B, Halladay representing the tying run. To me, that’s not trying to win, unless there are extenuating circumstances like an overworked bullpen. I think Charlie would rather face the Cardinals than either the Snakes or Brew Crew.
by The Dude Abides on Sep 19, 2011 7:19 PM PDT reply actions
Boston 7th still going — Connor Jackson GS HR, Boston 18, Orioles 9.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions
So is the Boston staff. That’s the thing: yeah, congratulations, you won a game that you really had to win… but your staff still gave up 9 to the frickin’ Orioles. The problem that has gotten you into this situation is still as bad as ever. There is your Eeyore cloud moving in.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Get the fuck outta here
Now consider this: Loney said he would be willing to move to left field, if it meant adding someone like Fielder at first base.
“I’d play wherever,” said Loney, who is back in the 2012 picture after a six-week hitting resurgence. “I like playing different positions. I just like playing the game. I’d do it, especially if we have a better team because of it. If you’re talking about building a winning team, I want to be on a winning team. Yeah, if those guys [management] are really trying to win, I’m all for making the team better.”
I’m confused. Is this a good thing or a bad thing? I’m leaning towards the latter.
cal. lakers. dodgers. packers. chelsea.
vols. rangers. galaxy.
Just for shits and grins
2011 NL 1B: .272 / .352 / .455 / .807
2011 NL LF: .260 / .328 / .420 / .748
2011 Loney: .283 / .336 / .408 / .743
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so he’s a better than league average LF, or at least at league average if you use wOBA I assume. ALSO, he can’t be worse than Garrett Anderson, right? And you know he’s got the arm for it.
I think it’s around league average. His range will be lousy. And keep him away from the walls.
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That was where I was going earlier when I posted the LF OPS+ but I stopped short.
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fuck it
lets do it. He is better then the other guys we have for left field next year. I’m totes serious.
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If it means the Dodgers get Fielder, I will accept Spawn of Kavula in LF.
Note: Spawn throws like a three-year-old girl, which is exactly what she is. I will further note that she takes after her old man. If only a 37-year-old dude had some excuse for throwing like a three-year-old girl.
I will also say that if we have to worry about what the Dodgers are going to do about Loney now that they’ve signed Fielder, we can file that one under F for FUCKING GOOD PROBLEMS TO HAVE.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I would consider doing it even without fielder
probably easier to get a goodish 1st baseman then a goodish LF. And I love me some loney, as irrational as it may be at this point, but it makes so much sense WHY NOT DO IT. Other then Loney having a propensity for slamming into walls. SHUT UP.
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I feel ya, dog. But we can file this under HJ’s maxim: whatever the Dodgers do about Loney will be wrong. I think we can most definitely say that this includes moving him to LF.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Seconded! All in favor? AYE!
MOTION CARRIED
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Don’t really care what loney is saying. The key here is as the article states many players say luring Prince to L.A is the best way to spend resources. Loney is clearly just saying he wants to stay here. The real thing here is that the players and Donnie want him and think he’s the single biggest difference maker out there. Hopefully Frank is listening and has a secret stash under his bed to make it happen.
If Frank has a secret stash, Judge Gordon and Jamie’s attorneys will be extremely interested.
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THIS TEAM WILL CONTINUE TO SWIRL THE TOLET
As long a McCourt is associated with it.
No way anything much different than what we are seeing will occur with the Dodgers and the construction of this team until the ownership situation is resolved.
Just Saying
by 68elcamino427 on Sep 19, 2011 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Pimping is necessary
New fanpost up about the Bowling Night this Friday. I’ll be pimping it the next few days in the comments so if you could either green those comments so people see them or rec the fanpost to the top (mods stick it at the top of the page when one of tomorrow’s threads gets long, hmmmmmmmm?) Either way, thanks to those who decide to come out, if you read these articles but don’t post, you’re of course more than welcome to come. TBLA events are a great way to meet the people behind the screen names and make it feel more like a family and community than just pixels and syntax.
http://www.truebluela.com/2011/9/19/2437068/tbla-bowling-this-friday-friday-friday-9-23
by G.Scott on Sep 19, 2011 9:40 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Pimping is necessary
Finally, an expression on pimping that I can agree with, as it expresses no opinion on the ease or difficulty of the act.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Halladay agrees with you, at least for tonight.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Braves
Had a 8.5 game Wild Card lead on September 1st.
This would be one of the biggest collapses ever if they dont make the playoffs.
Cards trail by 2 on loss side.
Giants by 3.
Say what you will about the wild card, but we have seen some PHENOMENAL collapses in the past several years. I still tease my Met-fan friend over the epic collapses they saw in back-to-back years — was it 07 and 08?
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions
And let’s not forget the Padres last year. As much as we’d like to, as their all-time collapse made the Giants’ win possible.
But the Padres did have an all-time collapse.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions
its going to be devestating to tits fans
when glasselbeck goes down for the year next week, dashing what hope this weekend gave them.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
nothing could devastate tits fans. there are tits everywhere.
by G.Scott on Sep 19, 2011 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
We prefer the term “chestnut.”
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
you kid
but of all the teams on gods green and sometimes brown earth, I think I hate the titans the most. Fuck the giants and all that, but I can at least respect their players. The titans are dirty, foul beasts of men who would just as soon spit on their mothers then hug them. Blast them all to hell.
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man i hope you didn't waste a high pick on that
illiterate summa bitch
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the #6 pick. our draft went Brady, Peterson, Foster, Rodgers, Mcfadden, me with Johnson. Was hoping I could snag Andre in the second round but I think I should have taken him #6.
Thanks you you fellas, I now know something about football: there’s some guy whose name is Nnamdi.
He’s gonna show up in a crossword puzzle one day, and I’ll be able to get it because of this.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 19, 2011 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions
HOMER
know, I got excited because I haven’t followed football since Andre was a rookie, and Chris was so highly rated I figured I was getting a steal with two guys taking QBs in the first 4 picks. Thought Andre might go in the second round because the rest of the first went Maurice Jones-Drew 7, Ray Rice 8. Andre went 9th, Jamaal Charles 10th.
If anybody has NBA TV, they’re showing the 1963 NBA FInals. Lakers and Celtics from the Sports Arena. So cool.
Quality is excellent.
Thanks, never seen the best of Elgin.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 19, 2011 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions
NPUT
http://www.truebluela.com/2011/9/19/2437083/giants-come-calling
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