Clayton Kershaw & Club 19
Expect a packed house at Dodger Stadium on Tuesday night, as the Dodgers open up a series with the rival Giants. Clayton Kershaw is in search of his 20th win, and he faces off with Tim Lincecum for the fourth time this season. Kershaw is looking for his fourth win against Lincecum this year, and his fifth win overall against the Giants.
Per Mark Simon of ESPN, the last Dodger to beat the Giants five times in one season was Don Newcombe, who was 5-2 for the Brooklyn Dodgers in nine games (eight starts) against the New York Giants in 1951. Newcombe was in line for a sixth win, on October 3, until Russ Hodges made the worst call in baseball history. The last Dodger pitcher to go 5-0 against the Giants was Vic Lombardi in 1946.
In five starts against the Giants this season, Kershaw has allowed five runs. Total. Four of those runs are earned, and they came in one start, on May 18. The Dodgers lost that game on May 18, though Kershaw got a no-decision, and they haven't lost a Kershaw home start since.
Kershaw is 7-0 in his last nine starts at Dodger Stadium, allowing a total of seven runs, with 10 unintentional walks and 70 strikeouts. On the season Kershaw has made 15 starts at home, and he is 11-1 with a 1.72 ERA. The Dodgers are 13-2 in those 15 starts.
Kershaw has two chances left this year to avoid this list, the list of Dodger pitchers to win exactly 19 games in one season:
| Dodgers With Exactly 19 Wins, Single Season | |||
| Pitcher | Year | W-L | Chances at 20 |
| Orel Hershiser | 1985 | 19-3 | 1 (in relief) |
| Fernando Valenzuela | 1982 | 19-13 | 3 |
| Burt Hooton | 1978 | 19-10 | 1 |
| Andy Messersmith | 1975 | 19-14 | 0 |
| Don Sutton | 1974 | 19-9 | 0 |
| Don Sutton | 1972 | 19-9 | 0 |
| Sandy Koufax | 1964 | 19-5 | 0 |
| Don Drysdale | 1963 | 19-17 | 1 |
| Don Newcombe | 1950 | 19-11 | 4 (2 in relief) |
| Preacher Roe | 1950 | 19-11 | 1 |
| Whit Wyatt | 1942 | 19-7 | 0 |
| Burleigh Grimes | 1918 | 19-9 | -- |
| Rube Marquard | 1917 | 19-12 | -- |
| Jeff Pfeffer | 1915 | 19-14 | -- |
| Oscar Jones | 1903 | 19-14 | -- |
| Frank Kitson | 1902 | 19-13 | -- |
| Frank Kitson | 1901 | 19-11 | -- |
| Doc McJames | 1899 | 19-15 | -- |
| Brickyard Kennedy | 1895 | 19-12 | -- |
| Ed Stein | 1893 | 19-15 | -- |
| Adonis Terry | 1884 | 19-35 | -- |
| Source: Baseball-Reference.com | |||
There aren't complete game logs available prior to 1919.
The two 19-game winners with the most shots at win number 20 were Newcombe and Valenzuela. Newcombe pitched 10 innings on the final day of the season against the Phillies, needing a win to force a playoff with the Whiz Kids. However, Dick Sisler's three-run home run in the 10th off Newcombe gave the Phillies the pennant.
Valenzuela had three chances at his 20th win in 1982. He didn't pitch poorly over those final three starts (nine runs, seven earned, in 20 innings) but didn't pick up another win. Maybe he was tired; Valenzuela made 37 starts in 1982 and averaged 7.70 innings per outing. His 285 innings have been topped only six times in baseball since then, but not once since 1987. No Dodger pitcher has started more than 35 games since Fernando's 37 in 1982.
Lineups
| Giants | Dodgers | |||
| CF | Torres | SS | Gordon | |
| 2B | Keppinger | 2B | Sellers |
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| RF | Beltran | CF | Kemp | |
| 3B | DeRosa | LF | Rivera |
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| 1B | Pill | 1B | Loney | |
| SS | Cabrera | 3B | Miles |
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| LF | Christian | RF | Sands | |
| C | Stewart | C | Barajas | |
| P | Lincecum | P | Kershaw | |
Hardware For The Bison
Matt Kemp has been voted the winner of the 2011 Roy Campanella Award, the annual award given to the Dodger who "best exemplifies the spirit and leadership of the late Hall of Fame catcher." The award is voted on by Dodgers players and coaches, and will be presented to Kemp before Wednesday's game by Campanella's daughter, Joni Campanella Roan.
This is the sixth year of the award, which has also been won by Jamey Carroll (2010), Juan Pierre (2009), James Loney (2008), Russell Martin (2007), and Rafael Furcal (2006).
Congratulations
Mike Petriello might be too busy to write for Mike Scioscia's Tragic Illness or Baseball Prospectus soon, as he announced today that he is engaged to be married. Best wishes to Mike and Emilie.
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Game Time: 7:10 p.m.
TV: KCAL
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When they make the Dodger movie — Marryball? — Jesse Eisenberg will play Clayton Kershaw.
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False
it will be some right-hander
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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
True or False
Martin Short will play Jaime McCourt
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 20, 2011 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Seems like a fine idea, I must say.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 20, 2011 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Robin Williams
Mrs. DoubtFrank
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
good name, but too lovable
Short will be the right amount of skinny, selfish, shrill
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 20, 2011 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Back when men were men and started a billion games per year.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Adonis is a helluva first name. No pressure kid. I hope he was ugly as sin.
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Fernando refused to leave games. I think Tommy was afraid of him.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
In my SBN LA story this morning, there was a link to the SF Chronicle recount of that 1982 game at Candlestick, which was started by Fernando. After the 6th inning, Perranoski asked Fernando how he felt, but apparently at this point Fernando’s English wasn’t good at all and Perranoski didn’t know what he said, but took Fernando’s pointing to his left shoulder that he was hurt and this Niedenfuer came in to start the seventh.
It turns out Fernando wasn’t hurt, just tired, but wanted to keep pitching.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Here is the passage:
Valenzuela cruised in the middle innings. In the top of the seventh, the Dodgers started a rally. When Valenzuela was due up, then-Dodgers pitching coach Ron Perranoski asked his left-hander how he felt. Valenzuela, who did not speak English, pointed toward his left shoulder.
Perranoski took that to mean that Valenzuela’s arm was hurting. Perranoski told Lasorda, who removed Valenzuela for a pinch- hitter. The Dodgers not only failed to score, but had to go to their bullpen for the fateful bottom of the seventh.
Perranoski later learned there was nothing wrong with Valenzuela’s arm. He was merely telling his coach he was starting to tire.
“Knowing the type of competitor he was and became, I wish we could have communicated more,” Perranoski said. “He was tired, but OK. When it happened, there was a lot of second-guessing, but the situation was unknown at the time. We never let on why we pinch-hit for him.”
by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Tommy speaks Spanish
He should have asked him himself.
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Yeah, it seems incomprehensible to me that such a thing could occur.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions
not sure i believe the story
Tommy spoke spanish, Scioscia was his catcher since ‘81 because he spoke spanish and I don’t believe that Fernando didn’t speak enough english to say “good” or “bad” in ’82.
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Jose Rijo (960)
Don Wilson (960)
Sid Fernandez (960)
Stan Williams (960)
If it wasn't for I Spy
Ray Culp may have been an all time great.
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Normally I’m not a fan of these but Benes seems like a match.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Their sorta nice for comparing long careers, but not much else.
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I just hope for a better outcome than Don Wilson. Sad story.
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Was Adonis Terry called Adonis
because he was handsome, or one of those opposite nicknames I wonder.
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
images of him are few, but not a bad looking fella
and then there was this on Wikipedia so you know that it is gospel
“He was considered a clean living player and kept himself in great condition in a time when many players were known for their off-field (and sometimes on-field) drunken escapades, including many Hall of Famers.2”
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 20, 2011 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Damn you for not replying to the first reference regarding him!
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I expected Don Sutton more then twice.
Rau once
Ramon once
This is shocking, 26 years
So much the kids of today have never seen:)
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Me too.
He also won 18 once and 17 twice, so maybe that what I was thinking of. Thing I just noticed about Don Sutton. He led the NL four time in WHIP. In 1980 he led MLB in ERA (2.20 with an ERA+ of 161) and WHIP (0.989), made 31 starts (missed one in June) and got zero points in the Cy Young voting. He wasn’t going to come close to beating Carlton that year, but no votes was clearly due to having only a 13-5 record with 13 ND.
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jrock told me too
New fanpost up about the Bowling Night this Friday. I’ll be pimping it the next few days in the comments so if you could either green those comments so people see them or rec the fanpost to the top (mods stick it at the top of the page when one of tomorrow’s threads gets long, hmmmmmmmm?) Either way, thanks to those who decide to come out, if you read these articles but don’t post, you’re of course more than welcome to come. TBLA events are a great way to meet the people behind the screen names and make it feel more like a family and community than just pixels and syntax.
http://www.truebluela.com/2011/9/19/2437068/tbla-bowling-this-friday-friday-friday-9-23
by G.Scott on Sep 20, 2011 4:02 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
TBLA events are a great way to meet the people behind the screen names and make it feel more like a family and community than just pixels and syntax.
I’ve been told that I’m an empty pixel with angry syntax
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
did you post this exact exchange last time?
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 20, 2011 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions
what is this sin tax you keep talking about?
I should be able to buy what I want without paying off “the man” for the pleasure
get off of my cloud, dude
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 20, 2011 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions
No such thing as a sin tax
For sin, it really is a use fee.
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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
In the end everyone will bail and it will just be you, Maddz, and an empty pixel.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
No, the last time I was this interested in a game, Dave Goltz pissed on me.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Does that remain the biggest fallacy in LA Dodger history
that Fernando should have pitched that game (yes that was 31 years ago, pipe down young ones).
come on out Phil
last chance for baseball
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 20, 2011 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Was reading “Why Time Begins On Opening Day” today, about the ‘81 season and World Series. Tom Boswell did a very god job on the book, and some of the predictions he made have come true.
Very interesting stuff about Fernando, Lasorda and the older guys on the Dodgers. They were in awe of Fernando. They set up a committee to see who would be the first one to pinch hit for him. They were going to sacrifice Pepe Frias. They knew Fernando woulod not be happy, and didn’t want to get blamed.
Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.
Sox get one in the home half of the first. They leave the bases loaded.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 20, 2011 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Espinosa is third rookie 2B ever to hit 20 home runs, per the Nationals.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Nationals have had some pretty decent offensive seasons from surprising sources. Admittedly several only look decent given the lack of league offense this year, but four guys on that team who aren’t Jayson Werth or Ryan Zimmerman have posted OPS+s of 99 or better, with Morse being the best of the lot (Zimmerman included) at 143.
Yankees looking to help the Red Sox in the bottom of the second.
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I haven’t been listening to the Rays much this season, but I have tuned in lately. Do they ALWAYS complain about the umpiring crew?
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 20, 2011 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions
If we were fans of a team that was in the same division as the Yankees AND the Red Sox, we’d probably type ourselves hoarse complaining about umpiring and spouting conspiracy theories.
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4-0 Yankees bottom 2.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 20, 2011 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Assuming the Red Sox win that’ll probably do it for the Rays.
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by regfairfield on Sep 20, 2011 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions
I was promised a collapse. I will have my collapse, dammit.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 20, 2011 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Phil
I love that Toyota is using the Kinks `Got to be Free’ in their new Prius commercial:
by jim hitchcock (railway) on Sep 20, 2011 4:49 PM PDT reply actions
Best Buy ad from 1996
See the crap we wanted 15 years ago
http://gregarious24.imgur.com/best_buy_flyer_september_1996
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
The TV in my bedroom is not unlike the one near the top of that ad. It’s a 27" Phillips, but still….
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As long as it doesn't have a built in VCR
I think you’re okay.
by jim hitchcock (railway) on Sep 20, 2011 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions
That is so great
“includes digital phone handset”
by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Three different Macarena-related CDs!!!
by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Montell Jordan’s second studio album, which amazingly did not do as well as the first one, which had This is How We Do It!
by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions
it’s Friday night, and it’s all good here on the Westside
by Josie Becker on Sep 20, 2011 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I believe it went
It’s Friday night, and I feel alright, and the party’s here on the westside…
I still hear that song on KDAY, gotta love KDAY
Waay back in the day
in the late 60s / early 70s KDAY was at 1580 AM and was a soul station, but if you were really cool, you listened to their competition, 1230 KGFJ.
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KRLA, KFWB and KHJ in the sixties. KMET, KABC-FM (KLOS) and KROQ in the seventies. The Mighty Met was the coolest!
Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.
Little bit o’ heaven
Ninety four point seven
K M E T
Tweedle dee!
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Ninety three, K H J!
Boss radio!
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We liked playing You Don’t Know Jack and that snarky announcer guy.
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Stunned
that they spelled out the full name of the “Butthole Surfers”. Usually that was abbreviated to “BH Surfers” for the family press.
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The original
Straw Dogs, on VHS. Crappy cover.
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Computers 133 MHz and faster!
My head is spinning.
by jim hitchcock (railway) on Sep 20, 2011 5:00 PM PDT reply actions
I think that hurts Matt Kemp this year.
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at first I was like
awesome! Then I saw what that meant for my beloved peter bourjos.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Vernon Wells contributing tonight. Good to see.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Forgot to add
I just so happened to be wearing my Dodger cap when meeting Mitchell. Great timing. :)
So of the three Dodgers I’ve seen in street clothes…
Wade
Broxton
Mitchell
…only one couldn’t be bothered to say anything. I’ll let you guys figure that out. :)
Wade, you were behind him at a takeout counter, and he was flattered at being recognized?
by jim hitchcock (railway) on Sep 20, 2011 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions
He tried to kill me. In Best Buy!
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Yeah
When he’s barreling doen an aisle, the only thing to do is find some shelf space.
by jim hitchcock (railway) on Sep 20, 2011 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Also
what if you’d bought Apple stock instead of an Apple product?
http://kyleconroy.com/2010/04/apple-stock
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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
But he wouldn’t have been able to write that blog post.
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by regfairfield on Sep 20, 2011 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions
If You Don't Like Him

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by regfairfield on Sep 20, 2011 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Who's that
Little guy?
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
A guy who, 20 years from now, will come to Dodger Stadium, see that his number is retired, and think, “Gosh, I thought they didn’t like me here.”
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 20, 2011 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Because the Dodgers (almost) exclusively retire only HOF numbers
20 years from now means Kershaw retired at 38, if he was voted in the first time. I hope it’s 25 years from now and he lasted into his later years a la Randy Johnson.
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Unless 22 is so great that his number is retired by acclaimation.
cal. lakers. dodgers. packers. chelsea.
vols. rangers. galaxy.
I don’t take the Loney to LF move seriously, but rather consider it the equivalent of buying the extended warranty at Best Buy on a new big screen HDTV.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions
“Sure, I’d move to left field if the Dodgers got Prince” = “Sure, I’d have a three-way with Angelina Jolie and Bride, if Bride asked me to do it.”
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 20, 2011 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Is there a new story different than the one from last night?
by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions
No worries
I just thought there was a new article. I didn’t know.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Loney in LF?
One of Fielder’s best friends is Dodgers outfielder Tony Gwynn Jr., who will be in Fielder’s wedding ceremony this winter. When the Dodgers were in Milwaukee last month, Gwynn stayed at Fielder’s house and not the team hotel. When Fielder visits San Diego, he stays with Gwynn.
When Gwynn was drafted in the second round by the Brewers in 2003 and reported to rookie ball in Beloit, Wis., the first teammate he met was Fielder, son of former Major League slugger Cecil Fielder and a first-round pick in 2002. The two sons of Major League stars have plenty in common.
“He’d hit with my pops his first couple of years,” Gwynn said, referring to his Hall of Fame namesake and hitting guru. “If you ask Prince, my pops and my mom are like his second father and mother.”
Gwynn said Fielder would be an ideal fit for the Dodgers, personally and professionally.
“He’s a leader, not necessarily by talking, but the way he goes about his business,” said Gwynn. "He does it the right way. Like myself, he grew up in the clubhouse and knows the nuances of how to act. He expects his teammates to play hard. He’s much like Matt, he plays hard every day. He’s definitely the type of guy you want in the clubhouse, and obviously in the lineup.
“It seems like it would be a good situation. He’s one of my best friends, we enjoy being around each other. If we have the opportunity and the situation suits him and his family, I don’t think he would turn it down. It doesn’t hurt that this is L.A. The weather is better than he’s ever played in. It’s all predicated on what the organization decides.”
And if the organization decides to make a run at his close friend, would Gwynn help recruit (not to imply that he already has)?
“Depends on the situation,” he said. “Obviously, James is still under team control. If they decide to go in a different direction and I’m still here, I’ll do as much as I can. Just knowing Prince, he’d like to be in this lineup, surrounded by hitters. I’m not saying he can’t be THE guy, but he’s more comfortable blending in, as big as he is, than being the sole focus of the other team. We would have a very similar order to the one he’s in now. And that’s a good thing.”
You’d think that with the downturn in the economy, they could have gotten a graphic designer to do that.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 20, 2011 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions
although those colors
could make for some awesome uniforms
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Do you think so? I was just about to say I’m not sure which color I hate the most, the blue, the pinkish-peach, or the yellow.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 20, 2011 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions
imagine
a black background with tri colored pinstripes!
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
I dislike black baseball uniforms.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 20, 2011 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions
I am ready to accept that most people
won’t like their jerseys and I will love them. Baseball fans can be so boring sometimes.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
And if the players ride their bikes home they won’t get hit.
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by regfairfield on Sep 20, 2011 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions
they’ll also be safe on any construction sites, so that’s a plus
by Josie Becker on Sep 20, 2011 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Figured it out
The blue swosh starting in front of the M and ending behind it really bugs me. Makes me think of this

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by regfairfield on Sep 20, 2011 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions
As someone elsewhere says it looks like the logo from the evil corporation in an 80s Schwarzenegger film.
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by regfairfield on Sep 20, 2011 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Where did you copy that from, such that even my firewall blocks it?
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The lettering style and font
reminds me of the Giants, so I hate it.
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It’s just as ugly the second time.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 20, 2011 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Ugghhhhh... talk about a technicolor yawn.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
I FINALLY GET IT
It’s an inverted W !
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 20, 2011 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Apologies for no header.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 20, 2011 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions
In the 1960s, when that film was made, they must have had to plant actual trees like that temporarily in order to film those scenes. It would be CGI now, of course.
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SMH
It’s a Mad Mad Mad Mad World
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Spent two minutes picking out the pic!
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Good God man, have you learned nothing from Marty?
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Meant to post that, not link it

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0 for 2!
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
I was totally just going to make that joke.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Need it be said?
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 20, 2011 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Might that be an unearned run? Of course, if the batter homers, it will be earned.
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Then screw that batter for not getting a hit and making that run earned!
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Sandoval’s left shoulder strain keeps him hitting from the right side. So, he’s been hitting left handed exclusively. Which explains why he’s not in the lineup tonight.
So is it worse to hit Aaron Miles third or Mark DeRosa 4th?
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by regfairfield on Sep 20, 2011 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions
DeRosa 4th
when you are still, sort of, in the playoff hunt.
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Can’t we all get along?
A good team would not only do neither, but not let those players on the team.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Sep 20, 2011 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I didn't realize the Braves' relievers had thrown so much this season
There was some discussion on it on today’s ESPN Baseball Today podcast.
Here are the MLB leaders in games pitched:
1) Venters 82
2t) Kimbrel 77
2t) Jose Veras 77
4t) O’Flaherty 75
True or False
Playoff teams and teams that contend until late, late into the season, tend to overuse their best relievers a bit because they are in more close ballgames, esp with leads, due to the fact that they are good teams.
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There’s no real correlation between save opportunities and how good your team is because you’re leading by a lot more often.
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by regfairfield on Sep 20, 2011 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions
The correlation is that Freddi Gonzalez is a really bad manager.
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by regfairfield on Sep 20, 2011 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Last year Vetters made 79 appearances and Peter Moylen made 85. Bobby Cox was the manager.
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because you’re leading by a lot more often
I thought about that being a counterargument.
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I would lean false
It does seem unusual to have three guys all at the top.
There are 12 relievers with 72 games this year…three are Cubs, and two are Pirates.
To find the next playoff-bound team with a reliever with that many games, you have to go down to John Axford, who is 15th with 70 games.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I'll bet O'Flaherty is a dickhead
*inside joke for E
by Greg Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I knew I was missing something today
Eric didn’t do a links post!
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It must be time for a new post, so I'll ask a question
Would we rather have this Dodger season where we (at least the realistic ones) knew we were out of it in May or be a Red Sox or Braves fan and be shitting bricks right now just waiting for their team to fail?
The Red Sox and Braves are going to make the playoffs so that’s pretty easy.
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by regfairfield on Sep 20, 2011 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Pretty damn close.
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by regfairfield on Sep 20, 2011 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions
The latter
with the slightest turnaround, they are in the playoffs, and being in the playoffs is great.
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agreed, being in the playoffs is great,
but the alternative is an ultimate collapse
by Greg Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all.
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The
new post will likely be the game thread at 7 P.M., so you still got a 1/2 hour.
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Always choose the near-playoff run
Easier to clean shit off a nice bed than it is to sleep on the floor
by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 6:53 PM PDT up reply actions
So if it is a close game, Javy Guerra is going to throw 2 2/3 innings of relief.
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