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Clayton Kershaw & Club 19

My guess is Clayton Kershaw pitches longer tonight than in his last start.

Expect a packed house at Dodger Stadium on Tuesday night, as the Dodgers open up a series with the rival Giants. Clayton Kershaw is in search of his 20th win, and he faces off with Tim Lincecum for the fourth time this season. Kershaw is looking for his fourth win against Lincecum this year, and his fifth win overall against the Giants.

Per Mark Simon of ESPN, the last Dodger to beat the Giants five times in one season was Don Newcombe, who was 5-2 for the Brooklyn Dodgers in nine games (eight starts) against the New York Giants in 1951. Newcombe was in line for a sixth win, on October 3, until Russ Hodges made the worst call in baseball history. The last Dodger pitcher to go 5-0 against the Giants was Vic Lombardi in 1946.

In five starts against the Giants this season, Kershaw has allowed five runs. Total. Four of those runs are earned, and they came in one start, on May 18. The Dodgers lost that game on May 18, though Kershaw got a no-decision, and they haven't lost a Kershaw home start since.

Kershaw is 7-0 in his last nine starts at Dodger Stadium, allowing a total of seven runs, with 10 unintentional walks and 70 strikeouts. On the season Kershaw has made 15 starts at home, and he is 11-1 with a 1.72 ERA. The Dodgers are 13-2 in those 15 starts.

Kershaw has two chances left this year to avoid this list, the list of Dodger pitchers to win exactly 19 games in one season:

Dodgers With Exactly 19 Wins, Single Season
Pitcher Year W-L Chances at 20
Orel Hershiser 1985 19-3 1 (in relief)
Fernando Valenzuela 1982 19-13 3
Burt Hooton 1978 19-10 1
Andy Messersmith 1975 19-14 0
Don Sutton 1974 19-9 0
Don Sutton 1972 19-9 0
Sandy Koufax 1964 19-5 0
Don Drysdale 1963 19-17 1
Don Newcombe 1950 19-11 4 (2 in relief)
Preacher Roe 1950 19-11 1
Whit Wyatt 1942 19-7 0
Burleigh Grimes 1918 19-9 --
Rube Marquard 1917 19-12 --
Jeff Pfeffer 1915 19-14 --
Oscar Jones 1903 19-14 --
Frank Kitson 1902 19-13 --
Frank Kitson 1901 19-11 --
Doc McJames 1899 19-15 --
Brickyard Kennedy 1895 19-12 --
Ed Stein 1893 19-15 --
Adonis Terry 1884 19-35 --
Source: Baseball-Reference.com

There aren't complete game logs available prior to 1919.

The two 19-game winners with the most shots at win number 20 were Newcombe and Valenzuela. Newcombe pitched 10 innings on the final day of the season against the Phillies, needing a win to force a playoff with the Whiz Kids. However, Dick Sisler's three-run home run in the 10th off Newcombe gave the Phillies the pennant.

Valenzuela had three chances at his 20th win in 1982. He didn't pitch poorly over those final three starts (nine runs, seven earned, in 20 innings) but didn't pick up another win. Maybe he was tired; Valenzuela made 37 starts in 1982 and averaged 7.70 innings per outing. His 285 innings have been topped only six times in baseball since then, but not once since 1987. No Dodger pitcher has started more than 35 games since Fernando's 37 in 1982.

Lineups

Giants Dodgers
CF Torres SS Gordon
2B Keppinger 2B Sellers
RF Beltran CF Kemp
3B DeRosa LF Rivera
1B Pill 1B Loney
SS Cabrera 3B Miles
LF Christian RF Sands
C Stewart C Barajas
P Lincecum P Kershaw

Hardware For The Bison

Matt Kemp has been voted the winner of the 2011 Roy Campanella Award, the annual award given to the Dodger who "best exemplifies the spirit and leadership of the late Hall of Fame catcher." The award is voted on by Dodgers players and coaches, and will be presented to Kemp before Wednesday's game by Campanella's daughter, Joni Campanella Roan.

This is the sixth year of the award, which has also been won by Jamey Carroll (2010), Juan Pierre (2009), James Loney (2008), Russell Martin (2007), and Rafael Furcal (2006).

Congratulations

Mike Petriello might be too busy to write for Mike Scioscia's Tragic Illness or Baseball Prospectus soon, as he announced today that he is engaged to be married. Best wishes to Mike and Emilie.

*****

Game Time: 7:10 p.m.

TV: KCAL

MLB Gameday

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When they make the Dodger movie — Marryball? — Jesse Eisenberg will play Clayton Kershaw.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Sep 20, 2011 3:53 PM PDT reply actions  

False

it will be some right-hander

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Sep 20, 2011 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

True or False

Martin Short will play Jaime McCourt

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 20, 2011 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

in full Jiminy Glick makeup?

by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seems like a fine idea, I must say.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Sep 20, 2011 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

and the “I must say” – nice touch

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 20, 2011 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Robin Williams

Mrs. DoubtFrank

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Sep 20, 2011 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

good name, but too lovable

Short will be the right amount of skinny, selfish, shrill

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 20, 2011 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sunshine is a better fit.

by silverwidow on Sep 20, 2011 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

19-35

one hell of a season lol

by asongscout on Sep 20, 2011 3:55 PM PDT reply actions  

Back when men were men and started a billion games per year.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Adonis is a helluva first name. No pressure kid. I hope he was ugly as sin.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 20, 2011 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fernando refused to leave games. I think Tommy was afraid of him.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 4:00 PM PDT reply actions  

In my SBN LA story this morning, there was a link to the SF Chronicle recount of that 1982 game at Candlestick, which was started by Fernando. After the 6th inning, Perranoski asked Fernando how he felt, but apparently at this point Fernando’s English wasn’t good at all and Perranoski didn’t know what he said, but took Fernando’s pointing to his left shoulder that he was hurt and this Niedenfuer came in to start the seventh.

It turns out Fernando wasn’t hurt, just tired, but wanted to keep pitching.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Here is the passage:

Valenzuela cruised in the middle innings. In the top of the seventh, the Dodgers started a rally. When Valenzuela was due up, then-Dodgers pitching coach Ron Perranoski asked his left-hander how he felt. Valenzuela, who did not speak English, pointed toward his left shoulder.

Perranoski took that to mean that Valenzuela’s arm was hurting. Perranoski told Lasorda, who removed Valenzuela for a pinch- hitter. The Dodgers not only failed to score, but had to go to their bullpen for the fateful bottom of the seventh.

Perranoski later learned there was nothing wrong with Valenzuela’s arm. He was merely telling his coach he was starting to tire.

“Knowing the type of competitor he was and became, I wish we could have communicated more,” Perranoski said. “He was tired, but OK. When it happened, there was a lot of second-guessing, but the situation was unknown at the time. We never let on why we pinch-hit for him.”

by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tommy speaks Spanish

He should have asked him himself.

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Sep 20, 2011 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it seems incomprehensible to me that such a thing could occur.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I find this lame, that Perry or Fernando or Scoscia didn’t have at least a few words set in stone for communication purposes.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

not sure i believe the story

Tommy spoke spanish, Scioscia was his catcher since ‘81 because he spoke spanish and I don’t believe that Fernando didn’t speak enough english to say “good” or “bad” in ’82.

by Scioscia14 on Sep 20, 2011 11:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Similar Pitchers through 25
Jake Peavy (974)
Steve Busby (970)
John Smoltz (969)
Andy Benes (967)
Ramon Martinez (962)
Ray Culp (960)
Jose Rijo (960)
Don Wilson (960)
Sid Fernandez (960)
Stan Williams (960)

by G.Scott on Sep 20, 2011 4:01 PM PDT reply actions  

If it wasn't for I Spy

Ray Culp may have been an all time great.

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Sep 20, 2011 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pitchers most similar to CBills through age 25

by G.Scott on Sep 20, 2011 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Normally I’m not a fan of these but Benes seems like a match.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Their sorta nice for comparing long careers, but not much else.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 20, 2011 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just hope for a better outcome than Don Wilson. Sad story.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 20, 2011 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Was Adonis Terry called Adonis

because he was handsome, or one of those opposite nicknames I wonder.

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Sep 20, 2011 4:02 PM PDT reply actions  

images of him are few, but not a bad looking fella

and then there was this on Wikipedia so you know that it is gospel

“He was considered a clean living player and kept himself in great condition in a time when many players were known for their off-field (and sometimes on-field) drunken escapades, including many Hall of Famers.2

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 20, 2011 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ll bet he wasn’t popular with the other drunks players

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Sep 20, 2011 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Damn you for not replying to the first reference regarding him!


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 20, 2011 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I expected Don Sutton more then twice.

Rau once

Ramon once

This is shocking, 26 years

So much the kids of today have never seen:)

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 4:02 PM PDT reply actions  

Me too.

He also won 18 once and 17 twice, so maybe that what I was thinking of. Thing I just noticed about Don Sutton. He led the NL four time in WHIP. In 1980 he led MLB in ERA (2.20 with an ERA+ of 161) and WHIP (0.989), made 31 starts (missed one in June) and got zero points in the Cy Young voting. He wasn’t going to come close to beating Carlton that year, but no votes was clearly due to having only a 13-5 record with 13 ND.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 20, 2011 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Odalisian amount of no-decisions

by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

TBLA events are a great way to meet the people behind the screen names and make it feel more like a family and community than just pixels and syntax.

I’ve been told that I’m an empty pixel with angry syntax

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

you’re way more than one empty pixel.

by G.Scott on Sep 20, 2011 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

did you post this exact exchange last time?

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 20, 2011 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Joe, I never repeat myself in the exact same way

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Angry repeating syntax

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Sep 20, 2011 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

what is this sin tax you keep talking about?

I should be able to buy what I want without paying off “the man” for the pleasure

get off of my cloud, dude

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 20, 2011 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

No such thing as a sin tax

For sin, it really is a use fee.

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Sep 20, 2011 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

In the end everyone will bail and it will just be you, Maddz, and an empty pixel.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not going to the game tonight?

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 20, 2011 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, the last time I was this interested in a game, Dave Goltz pissed on me.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Does that remain the biggest fallacy in LA Dodger history

that Fernando should have pitched that game (yes that was 31 years ago, pipe down young ones).

by bhsportsguy on Sep 20, 2011 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Probably

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

come on out Phil

last chance for baseball

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 20, 2011 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Was reading “Why Time Begins On Opening Day” today, about the ‘81 season and World Series. Tom Boswell did a very god job on the book, and some of the predictions he made have come true.
Very interesting stuff about Fernando, Lasorda and the older guys on the Dodgers. They were in awe of Fernando. They set up a committee to see who would be the first one to pinch hit for him. They were going to sacrifice Pepe Frias. They knew Fernando woulod not be happy, and didn’t want to get blamed.

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Sep 20, 2011 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sounds like a good book to read.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s mostly about the Orioles, but he gets into all the positions and their foibles, with even some umpire stories.

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Sep 20, 2011 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Eric Bedard

did not give up a run in the top of the first, Fenway can sigh for a moment.

by bhsportsguy on Sep 20, 2011 4:18 PM PDT reply actions  

That bullpen has to be flagged.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sox get one in the home half of the first. They leave the bases loaded.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Sep 20, 2011 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cliff Lee

has given up a solo shot to former Dirt Bag Danny Espinosa in the second

by bhsportsguy on Sep 20, 2011 4:27 PM PDT reply actions  

Espinosa is third rookie 2B ever to hit 20 home runs, per the Nationals.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nationals have had some pretty decent offensive seasons from surprising sources. Admittedly several only look decent given the lack of league offense this year, but four guys on that team who aren’t Jayson Werth or Ryan Zimmerman have posted OPS+s of 99 or better, with Morse being the best of the lot (Zimmerman included) at 143.

by EMDarrow on Sep 20, 2011 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yankees looking to help the Red Sox in the bottom of the second.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Sep 20, 2011 4:46 PM PDT reply actions  

I haven’t been listening to the Rays much this season, but I have tuned in lately. Do they ALWAYS complain about the umpiring crew?

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Sep 20, 2011 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

If we were fans of a team that was in the same division as the Yankees AND the Red Sox, we’d probably type ourselves hoarse complaining about umpiring and spouting conspiracy theories.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 20, 2011 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

4-0 Yankees bottom 2.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Sep 20, 2011 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Assuming the Red Sox win that’ll probably do it for the Rays.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Sep 20, 2011 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was promised a collapse. I will have my collapse, dammit.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Sep 20, 2011 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Best Buy ad from 1996

See the crap we wanted 15 years ago

http://gregarious24.imgur.com/best_buy_flyer_september_1996

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Sep 20, 2011 4:51 PM PDT reply actions  

did you just call Close Combat crap?

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 20, 2011 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

The TV in my bedroom is not unlike the one near the top of that ad. It’s a 27" Phillips, but still….


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 20, 2011 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

That is so great

“includes digital phone handset”

by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Auto reverse cassette deck

by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Three different Macarena-related CDs!!!

by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

This just brings back all kinds of painful memories.

by EMDarrow on Sep 20, 2011 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Montell Jordan’s second studio album, which amazingly did not do as well as the first one, which had This is How We Do It!

by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

it’s Friday night, and it’s all good here on the Westside

by Josie Becker on Sep 20, 2011 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I believe it went

It’s Friday night, and I feel alright, and the party’s here on the westside…

I still hear that song on KDAY, gotta love KDAY

by Billyum on Sep 20, 2011 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Waay back in the day

in the late 60s / early 70s KDAY was at 1580 AM and was a soul station, but if you were really cool, you listened to their competition, 1230 KGFJ.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 20, 2011 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

KRLA, KFWB and KHJ in the sixties. KMET, KABC-FM (KLOS) and KROQ in the seventies. The Mighty Met was the coolest!

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Sep 20, 2011 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Little bit o’ heaven
Ninety four point seven
K M E T
Tweedle dee!


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 20, 2011 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ninety three, K H J!
Boss radio!


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 20, 2011 6:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

and the surf report. Whooo-Ya!

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Sep 20, 2011 7:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

We liked playing You Don’t Know Jack and that snarky announcer guy.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 20, 2011 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Stunned

that they spelled out the full name of the “Butthole Surfers”. Usually that was abbreviated to “BH Surfers” for the family press.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 20, 2011 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

The original

Straw Dogs, on VHS. Crappy cover.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 20, 2011 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Computers 133 MHz and faster!

My head is spinning.

by jim hitchcock (railway) on Sep 20, 2011 5:00 PM PDT reply actions  

fuck ellsbury

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 20, 2011 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think that hurts Matt Kemp this year.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 20, 2011 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

at first I was like

awesome! Then I saw what that meant for my beloved peter bourjos.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 20, 2011 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Vernon Wells contributing tonight. Good to see.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

too little too late

:(

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 20, 2011 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Forgot to add

I just so happened to be wearing my Dodger cap when meeting Mitchell. Great timing. :)

by silverwidow on Sep 20, 2011 5:02 PM PDT reply actions  

So of the three Dodgers I’ve seen in street clothes…

Wade
Broxton
Mitchell

…only one couldn’t be bothered to say anything. I’ll let you guys figure that out. :)

by silverwidow on Sep 20, 2011 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wade, you were behind him at a takeout counter, and he was flattered at being recognized?

by jim hitchcock (railway) on Sep 20, 2011 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, the Wade story is my claim to L.A. Times “fame.” He was very nice. Broxton ignored me.

by silverwidow on Sep 20, 2011 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

He tried to kill me. In Best Buy!

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Sep 20, 2011 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

When he’s barreling doen an aisle, the only thing to do is find some shelf space.

by jim hitchcock (railway) on Sep 20, 2011 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Confirming earlier thoughts & reports

Johnny Cueto’s season is now over, officially.

156 innings, 2.3077 ERA.

Disqualified.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 5:03 PM PDT reply actions  

He had a good run.

by jrock247 on Sep 20, 2011 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also

what if you’d bought Apple stock instead of an Apple product?

http://kyleconroy.com/2010/04/apple-stock

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Sep 20, 2011 5:03 PM PDT reply actions  

But he wouldn’t have been able to write that blog post.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Sep 20, 2011 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

All I can say is Ken Gurnick

has some interesting stuff in his latest story

by bhsportsguy on Sep 20, 2011 5:18 PM PDT reply actions  

You mean the Loney-to-LF nonsense? Discussed last night.

by silverwidow on Sep 20, 2011 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

its not nonsense

its awesome!

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 20, 2011 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Who's that

Little guy?

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Sep 20, 2011 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

A guy who, 20 years from now, will come to Dodger Stadium, see that his number is retired, and think, “Gosh, I thought they didn’t like me here.”

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Sep 20, 2011 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because the Dodgers (almost) exclusively retire only HOF numbers

20 years from now means Kershaw retired at 38, if he was voted in the first time. I hope it’s 25 years from now and he lasted into his later years a la Randy Johnson.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 20, 2011 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Unless 22 is so great that his number is retired by acclaimation.

cal. lakers. dodgers. packers. chelsea.
vols. rangers. galaxy.

by cldpc on Sep 20, 2011 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was there!

I mean come on, give him another chance!

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 20, 2011 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t take the Loney to LF move seriously, but rather consider it the equivalent of buying the extended warranty at Best Buy on a new big screen HDTV.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

vestigial?

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 20, 2011 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

“Sure, I’d move to left field if the Dodgers got Prince” = “Sure, I’d have a three-way with Angelina Jolie and Bride, if Bride asked me to do it.”

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Sep 20, 2011 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is there a new story different than the one from last night?

by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry

I mean Jon linked it so I thought it was new. I am sleep-deprived

by bhsportsguy on Sep 20, 2011 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

No worries

I just thought there was a new article. I didn’t know.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Loney in LF?

Story

One of Fielder’s best friends is Dodgers outfielder Tony Gwynn Jr., who will be in Fielder’s wedding ceremony this winter. When the Dodgers were in Milwaukee last month, Gwynn stayed at Fielder’s house and not the team hotel. When Fielder visits San Diego, he stays with Gwynn.

When Gwynn was drafted in the second round by the Brewers in 2003 and reported to rookie ball in Beloit, Wis., the first teammate he met was Fielder, son of former Major League slugger Cecil Fielder and a first-round pick in 2002. The two sons of Major League stars have plenty in common.

“He’d hit with my pops his first couple of years,” Gwynn said, referring to his Hall of Fame namesake and hitting guru. “If you ask Prince, my pops and my mom are like his second father and mother.”

Gwynn said Fielder would be an ideal fit for the Dodgers, personally and professionally.

“He’s a leader, not necessarily by talking, but the way he goes about his business,” said Gwynn. "He does it the right way. Like myself, he grew up in the clubhouse and knows the nuances of how to act. He expects his teammates to play hard. He’s much like Matt, he plays hard every day. He’s definitely the type of guy you want in the clubhouse, and obviously in the lineup.

“It seems like it would be a good situation. He’s one of my best friends, we enjoy being around each other. If we have the opportunity and the situation suits him and his family, I don’t think he would turn it down. It doesn’t hurt that this is L.A. The weather is better than he’s ever played in. It’s all predicated on what the organization decides.”

And if the organization decides to make a run at his close friend, would Gwynn help recruit (not to imply that he already has)?

“Depends on the situation,” he said. “Obviously, James is still under team control. If they decide to go in a different direction and I’m still here, I’ll do as much as I can. Just knowing Prince, he’d like to be in this lineup, surrounded by hitters. I’m not saying he can’t be THE guy, but he’s more comfortable blending in, as big as he is, than being the sole focus of the other team. We would have a very similar order to the one he’s in now. And that’s a good thing.”

by bhsportsguy on Sep 20, 2011 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

You’d think that with the downturn in the economy, they could have gotten a graphic designer to do that.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Sep 20, 2011 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

You are kidding right

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 20, 2011 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

they are ditching the teal?

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 20, 2011 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

although those colors

could make for some awesome uniforms

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 20, 2011 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Do you think so? I was just about to say I’m not sure which color I hate the most, the blue, the pinkish-peach, or the yellow.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Sep 20, 2011 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

imagine

a black background with tri colored pinstripes!

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 20, 2011 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I dislike black baseball uniforms.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Sep 20, 2011 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

ok a blue vest with orange sleeves!

or vice versa!

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 20, 2011 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am ready to accept that most people

won’t like their jerseys and I will love them. Baseball fans can be so boring sometimes.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 20, 2011 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

And if the players ride their bikes home they won’t get hit.

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by regfairfield on Sep 20, 2011 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

they’ll also be safe on any construction sites, so that’s a plus

by Josie Becker on Sep 20, 2011 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Figured it out

The blue swosh starting in front of the M and ending behind it really bugs me. Makes me think of this

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by regfairfield on Sep 20, 2011 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

As someone elsewhere says it looks like the logo from the evil corporation in an 80s Schwarzenegger film.

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by regfairfield on Sep 20, 2011 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Where did you copy that from, such that even my firewall blocks it?


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by David Young on Sep 20, 2011 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was this, right?


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by David Young on Sep 20, 2011 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

The lettering style and font

reminds me of the Giants, so I hate it.


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by David Young on Sep 20, 2011 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s just as ugly the second time.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Sep 20, 2011 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

TWSS


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by David Young on Sep 20, 2011 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ugghhhhh... talk about a technicolor yawn.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Sep 20, 2011 6:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I FINALLY GET IT

It’s an inverted W !


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by David Young on Sep 20, 2011 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Sep 20, 2011 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Apologies for no header.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Sep 20, 2011 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

In the 1960s, when that film was made, they must have had to plant actual trees like that temporarily in order to film those scenes. It would be CGI now, of course.


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by David Young on Sep 20, 2011 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

SMH

It’s a Mad Mad Mad Mad World

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Sep 20, 2011 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Spent two minutes picking out the pic!


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by David Young on Sep 20, 2011 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Whaddya mean tax Free? Everybody pays taxes. Even businessmen, who rob and cheat and steal from people everyday, even they have to pay taxes!

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Sep 20, 2011 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

0 for 2!

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Sep 20, 2011 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can see it.


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by David Young on Sep 20, 2011 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was totally just going to make that joke.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cliff Lee has given up 2 runs in 6 innings so far. 2.39 ERA.

by Alex41592 on Sep 20, 2011 5:40 PM PDT reply actions  

3 runs now. Carlos Fucking Ruiz threw away a ball on a pickoff attempt. Lee’s ERA up to 2.43

by jrock247 on Sep 20, 2011 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

scratch that. i knew gameday wad fucked up he’s actually at 2.38

by jrock247 on Sep 20, 2011 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Need it be said?

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Sep 20, 2011 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Might that be an unearned run? Of course, if the batter homers, it will be earned.


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by David Young on Sep 20, 2011 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah its an unearned run. Ehh..whatever it will still help him get the " L"

by jrock247 on Sep 20, 2011 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Then screw that batter for not getting a hit and making that run earned!


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by David Young on Sep 20, 2011 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sandoval’s left shoulder strain keeps him hitting from the right side. So, he’s been hitting left handed exclusively. Which explains why he’s not in the lineup tonight.

by Alex41592 on Sep 20, 2011 5:48 PM PDT reply actions  

So is it worse to hit Aaron Miles third or Mark DeRosa 4th?

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by regfairfield on Sep 20, 2011 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

DeRosa 4th

when you are still, sort of, in the playoff hunt.


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by David Young on Sep 20, 2011 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

aaron miles 3rd

and its not close

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 20, 2011 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can’t we all get along?

A good team would not only do neither, but not let those players on the team.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Sep 20, 2011 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

I didn't realize the Braves' relievers had thrown so much this season

There was some discussion on it on today’s ESPN Baseball Today podcast.

Here are the MLB leaders in games pitched:
1) Venters 82
2t) Kimbrel 77

2t) Jose Veras 77
4t) O’Flaherty 75

by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 5:52 PM PDT reply actions  

True or False

Playoff teams and teams that contend until late, late into the season, tend to overuse their best relievers a bit because they are in more close ballgames, esp with leads, due to the fact that they are good teams.


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by David Young on Sep 20, 2011 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

There’s no real correlation between save opportunities and how good your team is because you’re leading by a lot more often.

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by regfairfield on Sep 20, 2011 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

The correlation is that Freddi Gonzalez is a really bad manager.

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by regfairfield on Sep 20, 2011 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Last year Vetters made 79 appearances and Peter Moylen made 85. Bobby Cox was the manager.


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by David Young on Sep 20, 2011 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

because you’re leading by a lot more often

I thought about that being a counterargument.


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by David Young on Sep 20, 2011 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would lean false

It does seem unusual to have three guys all at the top.

There are 12 relievers with 72 games this year…three are Cubs, and two are Pirates.

To find the next playoff-bound team with a reliever with that many games, you have to go down to John Axford, who is 15th with 70 games.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

True…. without thinking about all the other things that could be factored into this.

by jrock247 on Sep 20, 2011 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I knew I was missing something today

Eric didn’t do a links post!


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by David Young on Sep 20, 2011 6:23 PM PDT reply actions  

That’s like skipping lunch. No wonder why my day had gone by so slowly.

by jrock247 on Sep 20, 2011 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

It must be time for a new post, so I'll ask a question

Would we rather have this Dodger season where we (at least the realistic ones) knew we were out of it in May or be a Red Sox or Braves fan and be shitting bricks right now just waiting for their team to fail?

by Greg Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 6:28 PM PDT reply actions  

The Red Sox and Braves are going to make the playoffs so that’s pretty easy.

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by regfairfield on Sep 20, 2011 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

The latter

with the slightest turnaround, they are in the playoffs, and being in the playoffs is great.


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by David Young on Sep 20, 2011 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 20, 2011 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I personally like to get kissed before I get f-ed, so I’ll choose the latter

"A human's need to goof around is as essential to said human as the Schumann Resonance, the spirit of the chase, and the need to poo." - Goofucius

by Jack Huber on Sep 20, 2011 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

The

new post will likely be the game thread at 7 P.M., so you still got a 1/2 hour.


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by David Young on Sep 20, 2011 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Always choose the near-playoff run

Easier to clean shit off a nice bed than it is to sleep on the floor

by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 6:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

So if it is a close game, Javy Guerra is going to throw 2 2/3 innings of relief.


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by David Young on Sep 20, 2011 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep. Speaking of thursday I have 3 extra reserve level tickets if anyone want to go.

by jrock247 on Sep 20, 2011 6:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

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