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Spoiler Alert: Dodgers Look To Cool Off Giants

Mike Piazza helped end the Giants' season in 1993.

The Dodgers open a three-game series Tuesday night with the Giants, winners of eight straight games and possessors of hope that they can make an improbable run to the playoffs. That puts the Dodgers in the role of spoilers, which is just another layer to the longtime rivalry between the two teams.

I took a look back at 1982 and 1993 for SB Nation Los Angeles, when the Giants and Dodgers took turns eliminating each other from the playoffs on the final day of the regular season.

In 1982, the Dodgers needed a win at Candlestick Park to force a one-game playoff at Dodger Stadium with the Atlanta Braves. The game was tied 2-2 in the bottom of the seventh inning, and relief pitcher (and lifetime .397 hitter) Terry Forster faced Joe Morgan with runners on second and third base with two outs.

Forster got ahead of Morgan 1-2, but hung a slider that the Hall of Famer hammered over the right field fence for a 5-2 lead. "I still remember watching Joe between first and second base," teammate Duane Kuiper said of Morgan, per the San Francisco Chronicle. "He raised his right arm as if to say, 'If we're not going to win it, you're not either.' "

Eleven years later, the Giants needed a win at Dodger Stadium to force a one-game playoff at Candlestick Park with the Braves. The Dodgers, however, had other ideas:

The Dodgers knocked out Salomon Torres in the fourth inning, then hit four home runs off the Giants bullpen as they cruised to a 12-1 win. Mike Piazza hit two of the home runs, ending the greatest rookie season ever for a catcher (.318/.370/.561, 35 home runs, 112 RBI).

For the Dodgers, it ended their season at .500, but was worth celebrating since they eliminated their hated rivals. "We had a little meeting before the game and Tommy [Lasorda] gave us a little pep talk," outfielder Cory Snyder told the Los Angeles Times. "Tommy came in and started reciting the stats and times that the Giants had knocked the Dodgers out of the pennant, and that seemed to be all the incentive we needed."

The Dodgers can't eliminate the Giants from the postseason, but they can potentially officially end San Francisco's hopes of winning the National League West. At the very least, the Dodgers can deliver a crushing blow to the already dim (4.4%) playoff hopes of the Giants.

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I have a vague recollection

Of Tommy Lasorda being interviewed for KTLA back in 93 (I was 9 years old at the time) and taunting the Giants after eliminating them by basically saying, “this is payback for 82.”

by Michael White on Sep 20, 2011 11:07 AM PDT reply actions  

I was young and idealistic and I remember feeling shocked at (what at the time seemed like) Tommy being un-sporting.

by Michael White on Sep 20, 2011 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well, at least he didn’t throw a football that hit a dude, which has been shown to be the worst act of humanity.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

reg thinks

this is a dick move

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 20, 2011 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

good god, I thought you delivered us from that

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 20, 2011 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

it was a ruse

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 20, 2011 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

You’re a real man, Deion.

by slaps825 on Sep 20, 2011 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

My favorite is Joe Namath saying he wants kiss that one female announcer.

by kinbote on Sep 20, 2011 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

As I have vociferously stated on multiple occasions.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 20, 2011 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

That would have been

a dick move

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Sep 20, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

When it comes to Tommy Lasorda

Being a Giant is all the excuse needed to be a dick. Even God hates the Giants.

by EMDarrow on Sep 20, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nah.

All class. /debate

cal. lakers. dodgers. packers. chelsea.
vols. rangers. galaxy.

by cldpc on Sep 20, 2011 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

One of the things I love about Tommy the most is that he loved making the walk from the outfield to the dugout at Candlestick, and just bathed in the boos. He relished it.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

But I didn’t write anything here since Sunday! (I looked last night, and it snapped a 36-day streak)

by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Some Yankee blogger named Joe D. is happy you could only get within 20 days of his record blogging streak.

by slaps825 on Sep 20, 2011 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

I remember in high school, me and a few others, including a Giants fan (there’s always one) sneaking into an empty classroom to watch an end of the season Dodgers V Giants game, just in time to watch Mark Guthrie give up a huge home run to Brian Johnson.

by Lex in Brooklyn on Sep 20, 2011 11:20 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Man that game was a killer.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Old frienemy Brian Johnson.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 20, 2011 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

If the DBacks can win at least one game against Pitt, we can eliminate the Giants sometime during this series.

by slaps825 on Sep 20, 2011 11:21 AM PDT reply actions  

…from the NL West.

SF is still alive for the wild card

by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

I love that the Dodgers are out of playoff contention...

And yet there is still so much to watch these guys play for. Not that there isn’t always something to watch, even in the bad years like ’10, and ugh ’05. But a chance to see Kershaw get his 20th, AND beat skinny Timmy, AND slow down the GNats, AND hope for a Matt Kemp home run (or 3).

Tonight’s game has so many possibilities, I’m giddy!

WHAMMY!

by Champ Kind on Sep 20, 2011 11:23 AM PDT reply actions  

I think my header should have had a "despite" in there

I don’t love that the Dodgers aren’t in the post season, obviously.

WHAMMY!

by Champ Kind on Sep 20, 2011 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Can someone tell me if I am wrong...

The Dodgers currently have the 14th best record in the league at 76-76. That means, we would currently have the 16th overall draft pick in next June’s draft.

A few things:

Isn’t it the rule that if teams sign a Type A free agent, that only picks 16 or below are forfeited as compensation?

If so, we are a half game ahead of Cleveland for our pick to be safe from being lost to compensation in the case that we sign a Type A. Not that with the ownership situation, that would happen anymore, but just a thought.

by slaps825 on Sep 20, 2011 11:28 AM PDT reply actions  

Yes

If you have a top 15 pick (not counting any supplemental picks added from unsigned players from the previous year) and sign a Type A free agent, you would not give up your first round pick but would give up your second round pick instead.

Also, 14th-best record would net the 17th pick.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Show of hands, how many would give up the Dodgers 1st pick next year

for Prince Fielder? I would. Though it’s weird, the assumption is that the pick would be some slot or below slot guy, but if they are finding money for Fielder maybe that would mean budget situation is different anyway.

Of course, they could also not sign Fielder, and draft below slot, too. Meh.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Sep 20, 2011 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

I would certainly give up the pick if it meant signing Fielder.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Sep 20, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

I would not. I am on record as saying I do not want Prince Fielder for anything even remotely resembling the contract he will have earned. Then again, I am clearly a dick.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 20, 2011 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

but you football in the eye stanch

is in the negative

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 20, 2011 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

stanch?

don’t type and eat at the same time

/lifelessons

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 20, 2011 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

porn stanch?

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Sep 20, 2011 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

only if you don’t shower afterwards

by G.Scott on Sep 20, 2011 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

easily give up the pick for Fielder. Doesn’t even factor into the decision if you get to sign someone like him.

by G.Scott on Sep 20, 2011 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

I will give up the pick and my right to complain about any other moves for one entire year provided the holy duo of K and K remain untouched

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 20, 2011 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Will the Giants be in the Prince sweepstakes?

If so, I’m rooting for him to have the following season:
1.) An injury in ST that holds him out the first month and a half of the season, followed by…
2.) Horrible slump in the next 2 months, followed by…
3.) A small resurgence, but a sudden case of the yips and a horrible rise in errors, which permanently cements them in the bottom half of the NL West

WHAMMY!

by Champ Kind on Sep 20, 2011 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'd enjoy it

if he smiled when he struck out

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Sep 20, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Giants will have a payroll of about $110 million or so without Fielder, so it’s doubtful. If they spend big, it would likely be on Reyes.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

How much of that is in Zito bucks?

Mmmmm, Zito bucks, with that rich taste of FAIL.

WHAMMY!

by Champ Kind on Sep 20, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

They’ll pay Zito about $5MM more than we’ll pay Andruw, Juan and Manny next year and get similar production.

by G.Scott on Sep 20, 2011 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Juan, Manny and Andruw

3 names that scare me about acquiring Prince. I’m not saying he’d be Andruw, but the chance of him getting hurt, the possibility of him showing up and partying hard in LA and getting distracted, ugh it just scares me.

WHAMMY!

by Champ Kind on Sep 20, 2011 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'd be more worried about these two words

Mo Vaughn

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Sep 20, 2011 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Five more years of production is okay by me.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Sep 20, 2011 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

at least he’s not having a big red flag of a season like Andruw did.

by G.Scott on Sep 20, 2011 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

or old like many

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 20, 2011 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s an argument against acquiring anyone.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Sep 20, 2011 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Then we shall hide in the shade!

by G.Scott on Sep 20, 2011 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

he isn't old

and he isn’t declining.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 20, 2011 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fair enough, then what is a reasonable price tag?

Assuming the Dodgers can scrape together the cash to make it work, and not put holding onto K & K for long term future deals at risk?

I suppose the fact that the Yankees, Sox, and Phillies are good at 1st, and the competition of Albert, would make the deal for Fielder possible.

WHAMMY!

by Champ Kind on Sep 20, 2011 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

its going to be at least 6 years

and at least 20 million per, but I think it ends up closer to 140 then it does to 120

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 20, 2011 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

So who's gonna pay that?

The Cubs seem to be after Pujols, so who’s next in the big spending category? Angels?

WHAMMY!

by Champ Kind on Sep 20, 2011 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sox could also DH him.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Sep 20, 2011 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you have near infinite resources why not?

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Sep 20, 2011 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think they go add another left-handed bat.

by G.Scott on Sep 20, 2011 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

David Ortiz contract is expiring, so maybe they would.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 20, 2011 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

If they miss the playoffs (probly wont)

They sign Fielder or Pujols IMO and ditch Ortiz.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Sep 20, 2011 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

if they miss they Playoffs

they’ll throw a ton of money at CJ Wilson IMO

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 20, 2011 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was just typing this

by G.Scott on Sep 20, 2011 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

cj wilson gonna be rich

picked a good year to be a free agent

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 20, 2011 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

ah yup

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 20, 2011 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sounds like when Alex Smith went first overall back in 05 to me.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Sep 20, 2011 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

there’s never a bad year to be a free agent pitcher.

by G.Scott on Sep 20, 2011 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

but there are better years then others

boston and yankees desperate for pitching,

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 20, 2011 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think there’s ever a season where either of those teams wouldn’t want the best pitcher available.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Sep 20, 2011 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Orioles

Nats.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 20, 2011 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

ok probably not the orioles. But Nationals

probably go after him.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 20, 2011 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

could see the Orioles if they stick Reynolds back at 3B.

by G.Scott on Sep 20, 2011 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Giants maybe

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 20, 2011 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Someone above mentioned that the Giants payroll

Is too big, $110 million next season, may mean they are out of the Prince and Albert sweepstakes.

WHAMMY!

by Champ Kind on Sep 20, 2011 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

who knows

they might think that with their pitching adding him would get them to the playoffs perrenially and that would make back the money they put up for him.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 20, 2011 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Without Vogelsong who I’m not even gonna try to bother to guess they’re at about 100, if they backload the deal they could still keep payroll below this years.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Sep 20, 2011 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Teixeira signed for 180/8, I imagine he will either get the same amount of money or similar annual value. Maybe 160/7?

by G.Scott on Sep 20, 2011 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Shit, was it 180?

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Sep 20, 2011 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

$20.625M for the first two years, $22.5 for each of the next 6.

by G.Scott on Sep 20, 2011 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

8 years/$180M (2009-16)
signed by NY Yankees as a free agent 12/23/08
$5M signing bonus
09:$20M, 10:$20M, 11-16:$22.5M annually

full no-trade clause
Teixeira may purchase 8 of best available Yankees season tickets

by G.Scott on Sep 20, 2011 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

If the Dodgers actually did try to go after Fielder...

A big if, I shudder to think how F-ed up that deal would look. We’d be paying Fielder well into the 2020 season with all sorts of back end cash and such.

WHAMMY!

by Champ Kind on Sep 20, 2011 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d be pissed off about it too, sitting there in front of my PC in 2020 wearing my worn out Dodgers back to back 2013 and 2014 World series championship tees

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 20, 2011 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow

You believe we are really that close, with our current pitching roster? I like your optimism though.

WHAMMY!

by Champ Kind on Sep 20, 2011 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

our current pitching roster deserves all superlatives, a bat would make us very much contenders.

by G.Scott on Sep 20, 2011 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mike Scioscia's TI disagrees with you

Not that he is THE EXPERT, just saying.

WHAMMY!

by Champ Kind on Sep 20, 2011 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Now if you can bring in Prince and Kuroda…

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Sep 20, 2011 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I haven’t read his stuff lately. Sure, the returning crop is Kershaw, Bills then Head for the Hills, but if Kuroda comes back, I think Lilly will be fine and we’ll figure something out for the 5th spot.

by G.Scott on Sep 20, 2011 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also, you wouldn't be sitting in front of anything

Your eyes would have “i-Lenses” grafted on that allow you to check e-mail, post blogs, chat, surf the net, etcs. all through the power of your mind.

WHAMMY!

by Champ Kind on Sep 20, 2011 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah, sure

in my flying car

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 20, 2011 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

i hope it doesn’t post what i think, because what i think usually takes revisions before it gets posted.

by G.Scott on Sep 20, 2011 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

The most common comment would become “GFY”.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 20, 2011 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

2014 World Series MVP Kyle Russell just wasn't ready yet in 2012

Otherwise it would be a 3peat :)

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Sep 20, 2011 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

:)

you and me are the only ones on this bandwagon

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 20, 2011 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just hope we don’t lose you when he becomes MVP of the Central League.

by G.Scott on Sep 20, 2011 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

heh

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 20, 2011 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

we will ride it till the wheels go flying off :)

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Sep 20, 2011 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Teixiera’s deal is a good comp. 8/160. Prince doesn’t have the glove but he’s two years younger

Could be some surprise teams like Toronto or Washington involved so I wouldn’t count on too much of a discount.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Sep 20, 2011 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d do it

but Price does have the body type that gets old fast

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 20, 2011 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

but he is still only 27

so we would have 6 years before that would happen hopefully probably

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 20, 2011 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

then again dunn is 31

and well, yeah

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 20, 2011 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mo Vaughn is the comp that gets used and he broke down at 33.

Sad fact is you can’t expect performance out of every year of these megadeals, so you just hope the years they’re healthy more than make up for it.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Sep 20, 2011 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

and that the years they’re healthy/good, you get lucky and a couple kids and a couple other guys are healthy/good

by G.Scott on Sep 20, 2011 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

then you have david ortiz

who is 35 and still trucking

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 20, 2011 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ortiz did look like he was crashing though

age 33 season: .238 / .332 / .462 / .794 after a difficult and injured year before.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 20, 2011 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Let's just get Pujols instead ;)

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Sep 20, 2011 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Lets just get both

Pujols can play 3B or LF, after all. Maybe not well, but with both and Kemp, who cares?

by EMDarrow on Sep 20, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Let's have Prince play SS and Pujols play 3B

best hitting team worst fielding team!!! I’d like to be the Knicks of the MLB, lol.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Sep 20, 2011 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Prince’s shadow has more range than Dee ever could anyway.

by G.Scott on Sep 20, 2011 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

"...then we dine in the shade."

:)

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Sep 20, 2011 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

fight?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 20, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

fuck, lol

Been a while, not sure why I put that.

/no breakfast this morning :(

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Sep 20, 2011 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

I just figured it was a Prince Fielder joke.

by G.Scott on Sep 20, 2011 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's even better

Better to be unintentionally funny than try and fail (as usual).

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Sep 20, 2011 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

This was a rhetorical question, right? If you are signing Prince Fielder, the draft pick you are yielding is the least of the factors to consider.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 20, 2011 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seems like a lot of "ifs" in that statement

Might be worth waiting until the rest of the season closes up before we worry about whether we may or may not get compensated. But maybe I am looking at this the wrong way.

WHAMMY!

by Champ Kind on Sep 20, 2011 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Late to the party

I read and enjoyed Chad’s piece about Loney.

It seems:

1) There has been a real change, and
2) That isn’t surprising, because Gary told us that there’s been a real change, and Tony said so too, and
3) Loney is the kind of player who is always making changes, which is the problem, because
4) Who knows if he’ll keep on doing this or what will happen when the slump eventually comes around.

My only issue is in the conclusion. Chad writes:

unless the Dodgers can get Albert Pujols, Prince Fielder, or Lance Berkman, I’d rather give Loney another shot if he comes at a reasonable salary (4-6 million?) even though I had previously preferred signing Carlos Pena (probably more expensive).

… it is easy to agree with that, but it may not be the choice. To get Loney at a reasonable salary, they must non-tender him, and if they non-tender him, he may find a home elsewhere. So what does that mean? Should the Dodgers punt on Fielder/Pujols and work out a deal with Loney in which they non-tender him and immediately sign him to a new (and reasonable) deal? Or should they non-tender him and take their chances? Or should they tender him and pay him the $7 million he’ll likely get?

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Sep 20, 2011 11:35 AM PDT reply actions  

we missed you this morning

there was much to be mocked and smirked at

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 20, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’ll go back and take a look at lunchtime.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Sep 20, 2011 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

you should probably do it on an empty stomach

by G.Scott on Sep 20, 2011 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Cliff’s Notes: Throwing a football at a dude’s face from point-blank range is not a dick move. Saying it’s a dick move is a dick move. So they tell me.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 20, 2011 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

making it personal

by trawling tblackjacks comments for comments that really where not relevant was a dick move.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 20, 2011 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I did not make it personal. I did not insult Tommy at all. I have called nobody a dick except myself.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 20, 2011 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is where we buy each other a beer and squash it.

by G.Scott on Sep 20, 2011 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

but then I have to get back to work

and nobody wants that!

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 20, 2011 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Good lord, what did I miss.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Sep 20, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Went back and read it, which was almost certainly a dick move on my part.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Sep 20, 2011 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m doing boss-directed work that has nothing to do with my work, I feel like I’m in procrastination purgatory.

by G.Scott on Sep 20, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Many years ago

I had a manager that made a point of picking out a random female worker and directing her to go get his car washed. That’s a dick move

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Sep 20, 2011 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

You there! Wench! Turkey! Wheat! No Mayo!

by G.Scott on Sep 20, 2011 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

those were the days my friend
when goils were goils

what happened to us as a culture, nobody washes my car, clothes, or body but me….we had it all and gave it away

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 20, 2011 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Because we were all drunk at the time too

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Sep 20, 2011 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

“Where is the cream?!”

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Sep 20, 2011 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

I am one of them “liberated men.” I been liberated to get up with the baby in the middle of the night, wipe the baby’s ass, and plan a birthday party.

In short, I been liberated to worry about keeping my job AND about raising the children.

That liberation calls for libations*.

*I’m going for the informal definition of the word. Nobody jump down my throat.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Sep 20, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

you mispelled Libated

by G.Scott on Sep 20, 2011 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

we escaped this conversation once

leave it behind or take it to the hate thread

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 20, 2011 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

word

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 20, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

I read that quickly

and looked like “dick expert” on the first go around, hahah.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Sep 20, 2011 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Also

Don’t mind me, i’m just killing time.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Sep 20, 2011 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

i didn't say that

My Position

Throwing a football at a dude’s face because you’re super pumped at the TD you just made = bonehead move

Not apologizing for it = dick move

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 20, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Don Zimmer’s position = Missionary

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 20, 2011 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

he's seen it all

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 20, 2011 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

and doesn’t remember most of it

by G.Scott on Sep 20, 2011 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

In fairness to Zim, he really knew how to blow a load lead.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Sep 20, 2011 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

"I never could stand that little fucking gerbil"

- Vin Scully, on Don Zimmer
/probably never actually said that

by The Dude Abides on Sep 20, 2011 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 20, 2011 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think my ears would fall off my head if I ever heard Vin Scully curse. It just doesn’t seem like two things that should go together.

by EMDarrow on Sep 20, 2011 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

best believe i bookmarked that

by G.Scott on Sep 20, 2011 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have the audio clips saved on two different computers

by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

and in a jump drive shoved well up my ass

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 20, 2011 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

scroll to the gibson homer there EMDarrow

by G.Scott on Sep 20, 2011 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pardon me, but did we know this — that the Gibson HR is due almost entirely to Vin Scully calling him out?

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Sep 20, 2011 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

and one pre-series scouting report.

by G.Scott on Sep 20, 2011 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wonder if that was a calculated move, knowing how Gibson was, he said it to try and goad him into making an appearance.

by EMDarrow on Sep 20, 2011 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

So Bucknor

also missed the Aaron home run. I never realized he was close to two monumental plays.

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Sep 20, 2011 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

just means he did it right

like that one thing that happened…..what was it……oh right, the sixties.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 20, 2011 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

i had a coach at Sonoma who was like that. Dude played for the Red Sox for a couple years in the 60’s as a 20ish year old. The dude had the raunchiest, and coolest, stories I’ve ever heard.

by G.Scott on Sep 20, 2011 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

but the intern gets a cool story to tell and to be on national TV, he should be thankful for the ball to the face.

by G.Scott on Sep 20, 2011 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

he's a youtube

sensation

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 20, 2011 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

They can simply agree to a contract with him

without cutting him. Does loney really think he will make more then 4-6 million on the open market? Is he willing to take that chance while leaving the team I hope he dearly loves?

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 20, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Even if he doesn’t, he might think that playing somewhere like Houston would boost his numbers and make him look like a better FA candidate for 2013. And he might be right.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Sep 20, 2011 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

depends if they think Loney can do something close to this long-term, they won’t sign Fielder or Pujols, and that the difference between expected production of Pena and Loney isn’t worth the difference in money.

by G.Scott on Sep 20, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not exactly

They will negotiate with him before the tender deadline. If they don’t agree before then, they non-tender him.

by Michael White on Sep 20, 2011 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Only because I got LAT'd

and never answered Marty’s question, the LA History blog is a blogger blog, you can just comment there. Fairly easy since google bought blogger.

I got distracted writing a longish piece on Hollywood.

Now let’s get back to this one.

by Josie Becker on Sep 20, 2011 11:46 AM PDT reply actions  

I got distracted writing a longish piece on Hollywood.

flattered

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 20, 2011 11:47 AM PDT reply actions  

Good work here.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Sep 20, 2011 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

any idea yet where/what time you play on Sunday?

by G.Scott on Sep 20, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

9AM – Veterans Memorial Park in Commerce

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 20, 2011 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

i’m 10am at College of the canyons. One of these days I’ll get a 1pm game and I’ll get to come watch you play.

by G.Scott on Sep 20, 2011 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

would be fun

next time we are down a few guys – will see if we can get you in as a super sub

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 20, 2011 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

EtHAHAHier
I’m enjoying my last week in LA…whose coming out to the Giants series this week?!
Don’t freak out…I just mean my last week in LA this year! GO BLUE!

cal. lakers. dodgers. packers. chelsea.
vols. rangers. galaxy.

by cldpc on Sep 20, 2011 11:55 AM PDT reply actions  

LOL

at least he realizes people can freak out when he says shit like this.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 20, 2011 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly

Perhaps he’s learned his lesson. It may also belay the point that he finally realizes he’s coming back next year, given his injury, his value went down and he’s gotta stick with his mates in LA.

WHAMMY!

by Champ Kind on Sep 20, 2011 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am of the minority who belives

Andre Ethier actually likes being a Dodger

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 20, 2011 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Who wouldn't?

Well besides Vogelsong, but no one cares about that little whiny b****

cal. lakers. dodgers. packers. chelsea.
vols. rangers. galaxy.

by cldpc on Sep 20, 2011 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Matt Diaz.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Sep 20, 2011 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

he just hates traffic

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 20, 2011 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

dudes into food

la has good food

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 20, 2011 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am a Caucasian who believes that as well.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

LOL

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 20, 2011 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'll admit, I had to read it a couple of times.

"I’m back to my first love – the Oakland Raiders and working with the Offensive Line. I’m a Raider for life." -- Steve Wisniewski

by S Jay Bruin on Sep 20, 2011 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

facebook or twitter i'm sure

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Sep 20, 2011 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

facebook

cal. lakers. dodgers. packers. chelsea.
vols. rangers. galaxy.

by cldpc on Sep 20, 2011 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Time to catch Verlander tonight

MLB ERA
1) Verlander 2.287
2) Kershaw 2.305

To pass Verlander, if Kershaw gives up…
0 runs, he needs to pitch at least 2 innings (you never know, Kershaw could hit Panda in the elbow)
1 run, he needs to pitch at least 5 2/3 innings (2.2868 to 2.2869!)
2 runs, he needs to pitch at least 9 2/3 innings

MLB K
1) Verlander 244
2) Kershaw 236
3) CC 224
4) Lee 223

by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 12:12 PM PDT reply actions  

HGT

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 20, 2011 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh man

that would be rad

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 20, 2011 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

so a 1 run complete game it is

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Sep 20, 2011 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd prefer a 0 run complete game.

But that’s just me…

cal. lakers. dodgers. packers. chelsea.
vols. rangers. galaxy.

by cldpc on Sep 20, 2011 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd prefer a 27 K game.

But that’s just me…

cal. lakers. dodgers. packers. chelsea.
vols. rangers. galaxy.

by cldpc on Sep 20, 2011 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I might pee myself

I haven’t been this excited for a Dodger game since opening day

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 20, 2011 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm with you

Aint it cool to be this jazzed for a non-playoff game.

WHAMMY!

by Champ Kind on Sep 20, 2011 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

… for a game after the team has been eliminated from the post-season.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 20, 2011 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is Teixeira a good comp that we want to shoot for? If this year becomes his norm you are paying 22Million for a 115 OPS+ 1st baseman. Yikes

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 12:21 PM PDT reply actions  

paying a $15mil per year price tag for the extra .1 OPS points over Jim Lonestar.

by G.Scott on Sep 20, 2011 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

You just laid out a case

For why the Prince deal scares me. Call it the pessimist in me, but I just see the potential for disaster, or at the very least, mediocrity but with a price tag that hurts us in some other capacity.

WHAMMY!

by Champ Kind on Sep 20, 2011 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

this goes for all big free agent deals

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 20, 2011 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, but...

Some have more inherent risk than others. If Sabermetrics have taught us anything, its that swinging a big bat, while cool, isn’t always as optimal if you fail in other areas.

WHAMMY!

by Champ Kind on Sep 20, 2011 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Then again

Anyone else in the owners box, who didn’t author Angela’s Ashes, might bring in the type of money where this isn’t as much of a concern. But who knows when that will be.

WHAMMY!

by Champ Kind on Sep 20, 2011 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Will This Free Agent Be A Good Signing?

Good player, lots of money – Maybe, but expect a couple down years anyway
Good player, no money – Hahahaha
Mediocre player, mediocre money – No
Mediocre player lots of money – “But Barry Zito was the best guy out there”
Bad player, no money – Who cares
Bad player, lots of money – You are Dayton Moore

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Sep 20, 2011 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Basically free agents signings will blow up in your face because the Yankees and Red Sox took the ones you’d actually want.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Sep 20, 2011 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

LIke JD Drew and Julio Lugo
And Lackey
Lets not forget Cameron
and throw in Dice fucking K

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m also willing to accept free agent signings never work out, you’re doomed.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Sep 20, 2011 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just to clarify for me, who have the Red Sox signed as a free agent that anyone would actually want? I guess Scutaro, otherwise all I see is a team built on the draft and trades.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

david ortiz

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 20, 2011 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fair enough.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Sep 20, 2011 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

And I left off Crawford because he’s going to kick ass next year.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Crawford scares me

and did last year, in a similar way that Johnny Damon scared me back when he first left the Sox and so many people thought he was (one of) the best available FAs: he does many things well, but does virtually nothing exceptionally well (aside from steal totals), so if any one thing regresses (like, he goes from a .300 hitter to a .280 hitter, as he has a few times in past seasons) then he becomes extremely pedestrian.

by EMDarrow on Sep 20, 2011 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Adrian Gonzales?

But I don’t recall how much they paid him. But to someone else’s point, if they have unlimited dollars, what difference does it make, the fact is they have him. Whether they paid him a lot or little, it doesn’t seem to matter.

WHAMMY!

by Champ Kind on Sep 20, 2011 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

traded for him

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 20, 2011 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Stay on point

Basically free agents signings will blow up in your face because the Yankees and Red Sox took the ones you’d actually want.

Not a free agent.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

have to consider them being able to trade away their prospects for top impending free agents because they can afford to extend the guys they acquire, no?

by G.Scott on Sep 20, 2011 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Reg could make that argument but he didn’t.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

fair enough.

On the flip side, you could also see instances of them signing the top guy for more money than your team was comfortable spending, having it not pan out as planned, and saving your team from being bogged down for the next half decade. Imagine if the Angels had outbid the Red Sox for Lackey, maybe they aren’t able to trade for Haren?

by G.Scott on Sep 20, 2011 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Unlike Reg I see the Sox and Yankee’s doing the rest of baseball a huge favor.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

No idea what Tex’s xBABIP is, but his actual BABIP this year is .239. But yes, definitely a concern with any big deal.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

For Reg

From Todd Zola

In 2005, I introduced what I call Category Efficiency Ratings which lead to CER values. Based on the non-linear distribution of the categories, I weight them differently (increase HR, decrease SB). The rest of the process is exactly the same. The resultant values are eerily similar to those derived from SGP.

So in effect you could say I have a mathematical adjustment for both positional and categorical scarcity, because it is the aforementioned non-linear distribution that spurs categorical scarcity

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 12:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Sad

News about Derrick Hall being diagnosed woth prostate cancer, good luck to him.

by bhsportsguy on Sep 20, 2011 12:31 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

who doesn’t

and good luck

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Correct me if I'm wrong...

But if the dodgers sweep the giants and the dbags win one game and the braves sweep their series won’t that eliminate the giants?

by soolongfrankie on Sep 20, 2011 12:31 PM PDT reply actions  

The Braves can’t sweep their series because they lost on Monday night.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

True that I didn’t know the braves had Thursday off. Well that blows cuz I’ll be at the game on Thursday.

by soolongfrankie on Sep 20, 2011 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Braves had a one-run lead in the ninth, but Chipper Jones made one of the worst fielding plays of the season, then Omar Infante took Craig Kimbrel deep

by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can’t really blame Chipper for the Marlins playing in a stadium that has its lights setup for football. The lights are lower than in most (if not all) baseball stadiums and he clearly lost it in those lights.

by VegasBlues on Sep 20, 2011 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

those electric signs that all stadiums have now are also a bitch to try to pick a ground ball out of.

by G.Scott on Sep 20, 2011 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

and they are facing three pitchers who are favored to win.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

December 22, 2009: Traded by the Atlanta Braves with Boone Logan to the New York Yankees for Melky Cabrera, Michael Dunn, Arodys Vizcaino and cash.

Nothing against Vizcaino and his bright future, but if I’m the Braves I probably wish I had Vazquez going from them in this series instead of Delgado.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Giants could very well catch the Braves but lose to the Cardinals. If I was in the postseason I’d be frothing to play the Braves.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 12:37 PM PDT reply actions  

Frothing Phil scares me.

by kinbote on Sep 20, 2011 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Frothing Phil

causes fainting

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 20, 2011 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Trivia Time

The picture of Piazza at the top of this page has a black #52 patch on his left sleeve, but there is also a black patch on his right sleeve. The right sleeve was also turned into a button that was worn by all Dodgers employees that year. Who are the Dodgers being commemorated?

by G.Scott on Sep 20, 2011 12:39 PM PDT reply actions  

#52

Tim Crews and his dastardly mustache.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 20, 2011 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Right, Crews is the #52.

by G.Scott on Sep 20, 2011 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

http://miscbaseball.wordpress.com/2008/12/14/cleveland-indians-tragedy-in-spring-training-1993-the-death-of-steve-olin-and-tim-crews/

Crews sustained an injured lung and a "very serious head injury," said Joe Brown, a spokesman at Orlando Regional Medical Center. He is in the intensive care unit.
No surgery was planned for Crews until his condition could be stabilized, Brown said.
With the Dodgers last season, Crews was 0-3 with a 5.19 earned-run average in 49 games

He didn’t make it.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

x

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Should be able to cruise to an easy and quick answer…damnit Dave

by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

having two patches for 3 names in the same year sucks.

by G.Scott on Sep 20, 2011 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm in a shitty named FF league.

It’s called “fear the beard”. Div names are Cain lincicum Wilson. Shitty right! So I proudly named my team
“Tommy Lasorda”!
Yeah! In your face dumb giants.

by Skunkburner on Sep 20, 2011 12:46 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Bravo

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 20, 2011 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

You should have named it “Casey Blake”.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 20, 2011 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

One of the names is spelled wrong.

It is Licecum.

cal. lakers. dodgers. packers. chelsea.
vols. rangers. galaxy.

by cldpc on Sep 20, 2011 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

parasite porn grosses me out

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 20, 2011 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

That mistake is on me. TL is the best name. Because when I won I just smile and wave.

by Skunkburner on Sep 20, 2011 2:14 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yankee Fun

Teixeira 22 Million 115 OPS+
D Jeter 15 Million 95 OPS+
Alex Rodriguez 29 Million 121 OPS+
Jorge Posada 13 Million 88 OPS+
AJ Burnett 16.5 MIllion 83 ERA+

Good thing they had another 100 Million to blow

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 12:48 PM PDT reply actions  

Cashman is a fucking genius

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

talk about a golden eraser

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 20, 2011 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Welp, I just met another Dodger at Rubios

Yes, yes I did — Russ Mitchell.

He looked familiar, but I didn’t want to say anything until the cashier called his order.

“Order for Russ.”

Me: “Hey are you Russ Mitchell?”

[Surprised look] Russ: “Yeah.”

Me: “Can’t wait for tonight! Kershaw for 20!”

Russ: “Are you going?”

Me: “Yeah” (I’m really not). “Good luck!”

by silverwidow on Sep 20, 2011 12:50 PM PDT reply actions  

I need to eat me more fast food

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 20, 2011 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

So you can lie to baseball players?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

why should they be different than anybody else

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 20, 2011 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Indeed

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I met Pete Rose once

Signing autographs at a Toyota Dealership. I told him he was my favorite player…I lied.

WHAMMY!

by Champ Kind on Sep 20, 2011 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

If I told Pete Rose he was my favorite player my teeth would fall out

I could tell him, “Hey Pete, I was a Dodger fan, so I always hated you” which he should understandably take as a compliment

I could also say “Hey Pete, I kinda think you’re a scumbag degenerate gambler, but loved the way you played the game – if Ty Cobb, that racist ass is in the HoF, well, you should be in there too” Which he would probably like

I could also say…..

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 20, 2011 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I still don’t understand fans who equate racism to gambling as a reason why Rose should be in the HOF. Being a dick is not relative to the argument.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gambling (ON BASEBALL) is a whole different animal than any number of other sins. Pete Rose absolutely does not belong in the Hall of Fame, whether or not he apologizes.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 20, 2011 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t have the moral fervor of either of you gentlemen about this issue

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 20, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Has nothing whatsoever to do with morality.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

You seem kinda pissed today

After this post I’m gonna do my best to not taunt the (whatever figurative animal is relevant in this conversation).

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Sep 20, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Everyone loves a Beaver

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not my neighbors

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Sep 20, 2011 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

My wife's gynecologist for one time only

http://www.healthgrades.com/physician/dr-bonnie-beaver-xw49n

Can’t make this stuff up.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hope she has a sense of humor

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Sep 20, 2011 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Her office had Beaver’s all over it.

The furry kind
Wait
I mean the animal kind
Wait
These guys

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Get it off, Get it off!!!!! :)

by G.Scott on Sep 20, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is that a tail between it's legs

or is he just happy to see us?

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Sep 20, 2011 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Wow

and people say theres no such thing as destiny.

by EMDarrow on Sep 20, 2011 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

cool

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 20, 2011 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Russ Mitchell: eating fast food to save that MLB meal money since 2010.

by G.Scott on Sep 20, 2011 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Josh Bell shakes his head.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Josh "Taco" Bell?

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Sep 20, 2011 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cameron “Taco” Maybin?

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 20, 2011 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jose “Jamba Juiced” Canseco?

by G.Scott on Sep 20, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Juan “Navarro” Uribe?

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Sep 20, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think there is a Brady Bunch episode in here somewhere

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 20, 2011 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

That was in the last thread when Jan got hit in the eye with the football

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wasn't it Marcia?

Or did Jan get hit too?

The NFL commercial making the rounds of late with all the footballs flying to various people around the country even includes a clip of Marcia getting hit. I laughed the first time I saw it.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I only used her name because someone mentioned it above. I only had eyes for Jan, I think she was my age.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

sounds like

me and Stephanie Tanner

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 20, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

really?

scrawny nerdy hip works for you eh?

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 20, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Star kisser

 (at 13 I hope that is all you were)

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 20, 2011 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

No wonder you liked AJ.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 20, 2011 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was going to make a joke about Cindy, but there is no way to not make it sound creepy, so I shall pass…this time.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I expected you to go the Cousin Oliver route.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 20, 2011 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Heh. Or Sam the Butcher I suppose. :)

by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Alice was his beard?


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 20, 2011 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

that was weird, the whole live in maid thing getting it on with the thick headed butcher

like what was that all about?

a white maid too? Was that an enlightened TV for the time, not making the maid “of color”, or was it hyper-racism by not allowing anyone of color on the show at all

and when Joe Namath and Mrs Brady had that threesome with Big D, well the whole thing jumped the shark

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 20, 2011 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Unless you were around for it

it is hard to explain what a big deal “Fonzie” was to pop culture in the mid-70s.

I mean Fonzie would make eating veggies cool, he got glasses, he wore a helmet (well they rarely showed him wearing a helmet but he had one). He even went back to complete his high school education to show that learning was coolamundo.

by bhsportsguy on Sep 20, 2011 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

eeeeyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 20, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

what’s wrong with a hyper-sexualized, borderline thug, high-school dropout, motorcycle mechanic living above your garage?

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 20, 2011 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

you know he and Mrs. H got down.

by G.Scott on Sep 20, 2011 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

heroine?

it was Mrs. C

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 20, 2011 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

stupid fingers playing tricks on me again

by G.Scott on Sep 20, 2011 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

he’d walk across the lot to tinker with Mrs. Howell’s engine.

by G.Scott on Sep 20, 2011 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

He was totes a junkie

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Sep 20, 2011 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

apparently he was 19 when the show started

but he seemed way older then that, yet cavorted around with high school girls.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 20, 2011 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m not sure why this is creepy to you….


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 20, 2011 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

the actor was 29

but the character was 19, to clarify. He didn’t look 19.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 20, 2011 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Henry Winkler

He’s also little and Jewish, right? (Not that there’s anything wrong with that . . .)

by kinbote on Sep 20, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hope there’s nothing wrong with that. It’s all I’ve got!

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Sep 20, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

You will always have brisket

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

We had brisket Friday night!


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 20, 2011 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I LOVE BRISKET

and how about that chicken:)

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

So good it tasted like pork!


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 20, 2011 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

As a Jew, I can tell you that brisket really does taste even better if you cook it with bacon.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Sep 20, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

What doesn’t

however that has nothing to do with the chicken that was so good it tasted like pork.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well

it is after all:


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 20, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I could make a joke here, but it would end up getting the thatsracist.gif.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Sep 20, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

If Hollywood ever makes the story of the Bride and Humma love affair, there will be a scene at Burbank airport where I tearfully put her on a plane, and she’ll say, “But what about us?” and I’ll say, “We’ll always have brisket.”

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Sep 20, 2011 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

But will it be in 3D?

by kinbote on Sep 20, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m not sure the world is ready for Humma in 3D.

Bride in 3D is really somethin’, though.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Sep 20, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Laurie Partridge.

I did encounter Susan Dey in her LA Law days in a Studio City movie theater once. Turns out, she’s pretty scrawny.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 20, 2011 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was Marcia. I said Jan, just cause I always remember her getting shat on

by Josie Becker on Sep 20, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Should have known you would point me in the wrong direction

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Like a broken compass, you’ll never know when I’m right.

by Josie Becker on Sep 20, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

marcia, marcia, marcia

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 20, 2011 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

There is a business I pass sometimes, not too far from where Phil is, which I think is a clothing business, called Marcia, and the outside has “Marcia” in script written over and over again in a stripe across the building. Whenever I pass it, I cannot help but think of the episode.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 20, 2011 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's cool

Should have asked him if he thought his shaved head helped his swing any. :)

Also, we need to know, did he go for the hot salsa, or mild?

by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don’t know about the salsa part, but I will say that dude isn’t much taller than me. And I consider myself fairly short.

by silverwidow on Sep 20, 2011 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

How thick was his drawl?


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 20, 2011 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

not surprising

listed 5’ 11"
210 lbs

Pretty damn close to me, although our fat to muscle ratios probably differ a bit

BTW – you didn’t seem short at the TBLA softball game

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 20, 2011 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

compared to non existent?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Silverwidow played a good first base for us :)

by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Instead of Phil and me and whoever doing a bunch of pinch-running, we should have used SW as the ghost runner.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 20, 2011 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

“No, no, he definitely scored on that play at the plate. What a slide!”

by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

ha ha

I love this idea

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Awesome

I’m sure he was indeed surprised that anyone recognizes him. He’s like, I’m not Matt Kemp or Aaron Miles, the real superstars!

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Sep 20, 2011 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's pretty sweet, I'd love to meet a Dodger

Or pro baseball player, or pro sports player, or famous person. Lol

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Sep 20, 2011 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I could have made my Cindy joke, and not had the creepiest comment in the thread!

by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

This allows room for you to do that now :P

Honestly I don’t care about meeting anyone famous, I just feel like it might make for a good, quick story later on.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Sep 20, 2011 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

If the season ended today

Who’s more likely to win their respective award:
Kemp for MVP / Kershaw Cy Young

BUT

Who’s more deserving, stripping away the BS politics and the idea that MVP’s have to come from a winning team?

Annnnddd BEGIN!

WHAMMY!

by Champ Kind on Sep 20, 2011 1:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Braun and Kershaw

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

+1

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 20, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kemp has more positional value!

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 20, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

not for anyone who has read Tom Tango

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 20, 2011 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Has Tango been proven right?

He’s got a lot of stats and theories, I’ve never bothered to check up to see if he was proven absolute on all his concepts.

WHAMMY!

by Champ Kind on Sep 20, 2011 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

kemp should win

kershaw should probably be 2

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 20, 2011 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kershaw 2nd to?

Halladay? Lee? Please don’t say Kennedy.

WHAMMY!

by Champ Kind on Sep 20, 2011 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Halladay's tough to argue against

Then again, Kershaw’s numbers “appear” better now, with the exception of CGs and innings pitched.

WHAMMY!

by Champ Kind on Sep 20, 2011 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

and fip

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 20, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

and siera(by .02)

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 20, 2011 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not to be confused with fap

which is a whole different thing, man.

by EMDarrow on Sep 20, 2011 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kershaw for Cy Young, Kemp at worst second for MVP, still has a good shot IMO at 1.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Sep 20, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Some numbers

Kemp / Braun:
OPS+: 165 / 166
bWAR: 9.0 / 7.5
fWAR: 7.6 / 7.0
wOBA: .411 / .431
wRC+: 165 / 178

We are seeing one helluva year from Mr. Kemp.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 20, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I <3 Kemp and Kershaw

They have single handedly (just about) kept people coming to the stadium this year.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Sep 20, 2011 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

All twelve of them.

by EMDarrow on Sep 20, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well

Josie would never wear it and Eric would shred it into little pieces, burn it and then salt the ground he burned the hat on.

So you are not missing much of hat

by bhsportsguy on Sep 20, 2011 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

at lunch i saw a car with both cal and usc decals on the back window. i shuffled away as quickly as i could.

by G.Scott on Sep 20, 2011 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Haven’t many people educated in LA gone to both institutions?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Never let facts get in the way of a joke.

by G.Scott on Sep 20, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

As a kid growing up it seemed unfathomable to me that someone could go to both schools, and then I found out that a large % of educated people don’t give a shit about football or basketball or even sports. I had no idea.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

A lot of people find (or at least found, back in the day) that they could get a good, inexpensive undergrad education at UCLA, then get a job with an employer that will pay for your graduate degree at USC. Almost all the Masters and PhD candidates in my area here at work are in a USC program.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 20, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Makes sense.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

One thing

Matt Kemp has “24” intentional walks, Ryan Braun has “2.”

by bhsportsguy on Sep 20, 2011 1:33 PM PDT reply actions  

by the time Braun reaches 24, it’ll be too late.Bauer is in Arizona practicing his long range accuracy just waiting for the right opportunity.

by G.Scott on Sep 20, 2011 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dodgers excited for tonight...early ass lineup

Gordon SS
Sellers 2B
Kemp CF
Rivera LF
Loney 1B
Miles 3B
Sands RF
Barajas C
Kershaw P

by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 1:36 PM PDT reply actions  

looks like the “what would I do if it were May 1st still” lineup

by G.Scott on Sep 20, 2011 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because of Chad’s optimistic post I expect nothing but fly balls to LF, ground balls to 2nd, and the occasional strikeout tonight from Mr. Loney.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lincecum is pitching, you should expect that from everyone.

by G.Scott on Sep 20, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

John Ely could be pitching against us and I’d have made the same comment.

Sands will probably have a .680 OPS THIS week.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

ha, I knew what you meant. You’ve beaten me into not making SSS predictions anymore, though I think Trayvon will end up looking like a wise thing to say for me.

by G.Scott on Sep 20, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Still pimpin

New fanpost up about the Bowling Night this Friday. I’ll be pimping it the next few days in the comments so if you could either green those comments so people see them or rec the fanpost to the top (mods stick it at the top of the page when one of tomorrow’s threads gets long, hmmmmmmmm?) Either way, thanks to those who decide to come out, if you read these articles but don’t post, you’re of course more than welcome to come. TBLA events are a great way to meet the people behind the screen names and make it feel more like a family and community than just pixels and syntax.

http://www.truebluela.com/2011/9/19/2437068/tbla-bowling-this-friday-friday-friday-9-23

by G.Scott on Sep 20, 2011 1:49 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

I guess it is easy

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 20, 2011 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

TBLA events are a great way to meet the people behind the screen names and make it feel more like a family and community than just pixels and syntax.

I was told I’m just a bunch of angry pixels with no syntax

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

even pixels have syntax, even you Ron.

by G.Scott on Sep 20, 2011 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I saw Contagion over the weekend

For a movie where millions of people die, it was surprisingly devoid of tension for me. Kind of a boring flick. But Elliot Gould does call a blog “graffiti with punctuation”, so there’s that.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 20, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Keep on pimpin. I still can’t go. Have fun!

by jrock247 on Sep 20, 2011 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

lets sign bam bam

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 20, 2011 1:57 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Who is Bam Bam?

Bam Bam Bigelow and Terry Bam Bam Gordy are both dead.

by silverwidow on Sep 20, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

and yet

they’d still be an upgrade on Juan Uribe.

by EMDarrow on Sep 20, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

phil is dissapointed in you

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 20, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

no sir

he’s dissapointed in you

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 20, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

thats pretty much

a constant

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 20, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

GOOD GOD

was he trying to say BOOM BOOM?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

lmao

That’s awesome

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Sep 20, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

This whole subthread was hilarious to read after the fact.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

OUT GO THE LIGHTS!


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 20, 2011 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

whats the difference?

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 20, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bam Bam is a bad cartoon character in a bad cartoon.

Boom Boom is a fan favorite baseball player.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Sep 20, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bibimbap is a Korean rice dish. (This is fun!)

by kinbote on Sep 20, 2011 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Whether you hear the syllable “ba” or “fa” is entirely dependent upon what your eyes see.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Sep 20, 2011 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Super Bon Bon is a song I had forgotten about for years until now.

by fbihop on Sep 20, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is that anything like Shake Your Bon Bon?

God I hope not.

by EMDarrow on Sep 20, 2011 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Crazy talk, the Flinstones were awesome for their time. Next you are going to tell me that Bullwinkle is a never was.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would never say such a thing. I cannot believe you are equating Bullwinkle and the Flintstones.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Sep 20, 2011 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

If anyone badmouths Felix the Cat I’m walking out.

by kinbote on Sep 20, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

who?

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 20, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hope you're kidding

or else I now feel old. Felix the Cat was one of my first cartoon favorites, up there with Mighty Mouse.

by EMDarrow on Sep 20, 2011 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Felix, the cat

The wonderful wonderful cat?

Whenever he gets in a fix, he reaches into his bag of tricks?

THIS ISN’T ROCKET SCIENCE PAL!!!!

(storms off)

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 20, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s the cartoon character mascot for that car dealership by the shrine.

by G.Scott on Sep 20, 2011 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

i mean COME ON

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Sep 20, 2011 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

we can agree on this. Throw in Mr Peabody and it is the Matt Kemp of the field.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Giants hitting coach? No thanks!

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Sep 20, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Isn’t BH in London yet?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

it's been calling

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 20, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

London’s burnin

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Sep 20, 2011 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

and IIIIIIII LIVE BY THE RIVER!


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 20, 2011 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

In a van down by it anyway.

by EMDarrow on Sep 20, 2011 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Elvohich (sp?) said they were going. Forgive me for the horrible spelling of the name, lol.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Sep 20, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nevermind, I'm just dumb all around!
I wish I could go to tonight’s game. Can’t wait to watch Kid K

AND ITS FREE HAT GIVEAWAY NIGHT!

by elvinkch on Sep 20, 2011 1:32 PM PDT reply actions

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Sep 20, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

special Bobbi special

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm going to go sit in the corner and play with my blocks now

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Sep 20, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

insert short bus to stadium joke here

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 20, 2011 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

if you keep making castles

i’m putting you in front of a Double Dragon arcade machine

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 20, 2011 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

They’re going to more than one?
/Maddz


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 20, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

been working in that one long?

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 20, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

It took me a while to do the math.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

how many times did you have to touch your nose to your fingers and toes while counting?

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 20, 2011 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m not kidding, i love everything about this article.

I love sports, and I love geography.

by Michael White on Sep 20, 2011 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

In other words, on a per-capita basis, there are probably about 5 times as many football fans in Birmingham as there are in New York. So although the New York media market is about 10 times larger, it has fewer than twice as many college football fans as Birmingham.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Makes sense since you have three things to do in Birmingham

-Watch football
-Smoke meth
-Watch football while smoking meth

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by regfairfield on Sep 20, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

The S.E.C. has few large media markets — Atlanta’s Georgia Tech is in the A.C.C., as is the University of Miami. But if it adds Texas A&M, it will be up to 15.6 million fans total, just barely behind the Big Ten (17.5 million). The enthusiasm for college football in the Southeast and a lot of mid-sized markets with decent population growth adds up to a very valuable brand — as, of course, does the exceptional quality of the product on the field.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

All I needed to see

was S.E.C. and I knew this was a New York Times story.

So says the U.C.L.A. fan.

by bhsportsguy on Sep 20, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

H. I. T. N. G.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Sep 20, 2011 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

On the other hand, the Pacific-12’s latest targets — Texas, Oklahoma, Texas Tech and Oklahoma State — have about 5.1 million fans between them, which would expand the conference’s aggregate fan base by almost 70 percent. No wonder the Pacific-12 might be willing to make some academic and geographic compromises in order to get them.

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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

You have double the base of Stanford, maybe you need to raise your standards.

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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have to imagine that Stanford has few non-alumni fans. It’s not a regional brand the way USC and UCLA are, the casual football fan in the South Bay is probably more concerned with the 49ers. Cal has benefitted from good years under Tedford and dreadful years from the Raiders.

by Josie Becker on Sep 20, 2011 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

You think so?

Even with Luck, and the Harbaugh years? I know this is anecdotal but talking to friends who grew up in the Silicon Valley, and there were a lot of Stanford fans.

WHAMMY!

by Champ Kind on Sep 20, 2011 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

when I say casual football fan I’m imagining your average Joe type, and just looking at Stanford, Vanderbilt, Northwestern…all at the bottom of their conference by fan base in that article, despite two in major markets.

by Josie Becker on Sep 20, 2011 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Won’t someone think of the graduation rates!

by G.Scott on Sep 20, 2011 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Smart people don’t feel the need to fill a void in their lives with sports?

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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

they do, but by law of averages, most people in America are C students

by Josie Becker on Sep 20, 2011 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

most people in America are C students

Is that still true, with grade inflation?

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Sep 20, 2011 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t know.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Sep 20, 2011 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Isn’t a C student at Stanford still smarter then 90% of the nation?

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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I meant more, in high school. Most people maintain a C-B average, go to their local state school.

by Josie Becker on Sep 20, 2011 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Most people don’t go to college, correct?

by Michael White on Sep 20, 2011 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

that I don’t know, private school kid my whole life, my perception is skewed

by Josie Becker on Sep 20, 2011 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

no shit

as in “no shit” your perception is skewed, not “no shit” you went to private school your whole life.

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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

going to public school in orange county

is like going to a private school, but cheaper.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 20, 2011 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

parts anyway

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

when I say oc

just assume I mean the 949

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 20, 2011 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Couldn’t you just say Irvine?

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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

no

irvine IS the largest city, but it is still but one city. I never lived or went to school in irvine until I was 18 and I will probably never live in irvine again.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 20, 2011 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

So what does the 949 encompass?

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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

35 cities
t also includes a small adjacent area of northwest San Diego County, specifically parts of Marine Corps Base Camp Pendleton and San Onofre State Park. It includes some of the wealthiest communities in the United States; including such cities as Newport Beach, Irvine, Lake Forest, Portola Hills, Coto de Caza, Dove Canyon, Aliso Viejo, Trabuco Canyon, Capistrano Beach, Corona Del Mar, Laguna Niguel, Laguna Hills, Laguna Woods, Newport Coast, Foothill Ranch, Robinson Ranch, Mission Viejo, San Juan Capistrano, Rancho Santa Margarita, Ladera Ranch, Dana Point, Laguna Beach, and San Clemente. Costa Mesa is shared between the 949 and 714 area codes, being split at Wilson Street and along Newport Boulevard

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 20, 2011 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

ah, the newbies

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

So how does this apply to Stanford, Northwestern, and Vanderbilt. I was not talking about the general population but the fact the best academic schools in each conference had the lowest fan base.

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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

those schools all have like a 10% acceptance rate, small graduating classes, and a personal appeal rather than a regional appeal, is what i’d argue

by Josie Becker on Sep 20, 2011 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because the general fan doesn’t like getting lectured by the alumni fans about how they aren’t real fans.

by Michael White on Sep 20, 2011 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

And those 3 schools suck at football.

Stanford is good, for now, but they’ll be right back to sucking by this time next year. None of those schools would ever go on a run of dominance like other private schools Notre Dame, USC or Miami did.

by Michael White on Sep 20, 2011 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

the C students at Stanford create million dollar e-commerce businesses. The A students then apply for and get rejected by the C students.

by G.Scott on Sep 20, 2011 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

laziness

is the mother of invention

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 20, 2011 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

FWIIW – I’ve always rooted for Stanford in football. Might be because of Jim Plunkett

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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve also disliked Cal since 1969 because of Joe Kapp.

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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think Stanford nor Cal are particularly attractive to non-alumni fans. Josie has argued that Cal has a bit of appeal and the poll seems to suggest she’s right.

That being said, it’s just a geography thing. Like with Alabama, Oregon and Oregon State fans are likely a much higher percentage of the population since there is only one pro-team in Oregon. On the other hand, Oregon and Oregon State sucked for 30 years before getting good again recently.

by Michael White on Sep 20, 2011 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fuck Joe Kapp.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 20, 2011 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I liked Plunkett and his little overachiever receiver Randy Vataha, and I liked them for beating Ohio St. in the Rose Bowl.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 20, 2011 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Immediately preceding that
For instance, according to Google Insights for Search, the term "college football" is searched for about 5 times as often in Birmingham, Alabama as it is in New York City, relative to overall search traffic.

My interpretation is that fans in Alabama constantly search for “college football” while fans elsewhere actually bookmark the sites they use. ;-) I’m surprised Arkansas isn’t darker.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 20, 2011 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

The only good thing about sitting around waiting

for the state legislature to actually do something; I get time to catch up on TBLA threads.

by fbihop on Sep 20, 2011 2:24 PM PDT reply actions  

Is that a good thing?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

To me, it is.

The only question is if I’ll still be here tonight when the Dodgers game is going on.

by fbihop on Sep 20, 2011 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Matt Kemp won the Roy Campanella Award

by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 2:31 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

nice

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 20, 2011 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kemp joins

2006 – Rafael Furcal
2007 – Russell Martin
2008 – James Loney
2009 – Juan Pierre
2010 – Jamey Carroll

Roy Campanella Award is given to the Dodger player who best exemplifies the spirit and leadership of the late Hall of Fame catcher. Dodger uniform personnel vote for this award.

by bhsportsguy on Sep 20, 2011 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Awesome. Bowa/Schaefer buh-bye.

by kinbote on Sep 20, 2011 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mike announced via twitter that
MikeSciosciasTI
I always knew there was something wrong with @banchovie, and now she confirmed it by agreeing to marry me. Ha!

by bhsportsguy on Sep 20, 2011 2:35 PM PDT reply actions  

If the Dodgers don’t win tonight, we have our Yoko

by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Sorry if this was posted already

http://www.ussmariner.com/2011/09/19/forget-prince-fielder-target-joey-votto-instead/

In which Dave Cameron suggests Pineda could be a part of a trade package for Votto. (There’s also some subtle Fielder-bashing in it.)

by kinbote on Sep 20, 2011 2:37 PM PDT reply actions  

Hey Cincinnati please trade us one of the best hitters in baseball for a guy that had a 104 ERA+ this year.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Sep 20, 2011 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I can’t see CIN trading an MVP player in his early prime, but the fact he’s only signed for two more years is interesting.

by kinbote on Sep 20, 2011 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sure, but the Central is ripe for the next two years so Cincinatti has no reason to make their team substantially worse.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Sep 20, 2011 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh wait he wants to add Brandon League well okay then.

I’m not gonna say this is the worst trade Dave Cameron has come up with, but man that’s an absolute fantasy.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Sep 20, 2011 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Definitely a fantasy. Usually he’s targeting smaller fish.

by kinbote on Sep 20, 2011 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mike Stanton is a fish, but he is not smaller.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mike Stanton could be the most valuable guy around now that Kershaw will break the bank soon.

by silverwidow on Sep 20, 2011 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

< 26, 2009 - 2011, OPS+>120, >400 at bats < 500 games

I removed everyone who has a large contract or is due one in the next 12 months.

                                                                                       
Rk Player OPS+ G AB From To Age PA BA OBP SLG OPS Pos Tm
6 Kendrys Morales 139 152 566 2009 2009 26-26 622 .306 .355 .569 .924 *3 LAA
7 Evan Longoria 137 431 1609 2009 2011 23-25 1863 .275 .362 .509 .871 *5/D TBR
9 Shin-Soo Choo 136 156 583 2009 2009 26-26 685 .300 .394 .489 .883 *9/7D8 CLE
13 Matthew Joyce 132 219 679 2009 2011 24-26 786 .262 .349 .483 .832 *9/7D8 TBR
14 Mike Stanton 132 242 847 2010 2011 20-21 963 .263 .345 .532 .877 *9/8D FLA
16 Carlos Santana 130 191 668 2010 2011 24-25 811 .244 .364 .463 .826 *2/3D CLE
18 Billy Butler 129 469 1771 2009 2011 23-25 1992 .304 .371 .474 .846 *3D KCR
19 Pablo Sandoval 128 413 1542 2009 2011 22-24 1695 .302 .355 .500 .855 *5/3D2 SFG
21 Ike Davis 123 183 652 2010 2011 23-24 750 .271 .357 .460 .817 *3 NYM
22 Andrew McCutchen 123 413 1554 2009 2011 22-24 1794 .278 .365 .459 .824 *8/D PIT
23 Alex Avila 122 265 792 2009 2011 22-24 923 .270 .361 .457 .818 *2/D5 DET
26 Buster Posey 120 160 585 2009 2011 22-24 645 .294 .353 .462 .815 *2/3 SFG

Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Play Index Tool Used
Generated 9/20/2011.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Damnit Stanton is great

I would give up the farm for him and then some, just save Kershaw and Kemp.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Sep 20, 2011 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dave Cameron is that you?

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Sep 20, 2011 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Has anyone told Dave that Kershaw is not regressing?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Now this is just foolish

I never said it would work ;)

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Sep 20, 2011 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would

It would just hurt because of the attachment. I’d get over it once Stanton hit 50 home runs and constantly more than 40, but Kemp’s my most favorite position player since Piazza.

Just think of how this lineup would look with Stanton AND Kemp in it.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Sep 20, 2011 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Anyone would

Marlins would not.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I misunderstood IVdown, I thought he was saying he’d trade anytyhing but Kemp or Kershaw.

by Michael White on Sep 20, 2011 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Honestly the sad part is Kemp wouldn't even get it done

Because even if the Dodgers sent over a few of our top prospects, the Marlins aren’t really close to being able to win and it wouldn’t be worth it for them, even though if it was to say Boston or Texas, they might do it for a better chance to win now (or 2012 as the case may be).

Kershaw for Stanton could be an interesting thing to watch in a year or two.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Sep 20, 2011 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mike Trout is a fish and he needs to form a school in Seattle with Mike Carp.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 20, 2011 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tim Salmon can be the Principal.

by EMDarrow on Sep 20, 2011 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is the 2nd time I’ve seen him try to trade Pineda unless it is the same story that appeared in mid-summer.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

he did mention it before

but I don’t think he said what for the previous time.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 20, 2011 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

yes

first time is referenced in the article

by kinbote on Sep 20, 2011 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

It would suck for Votto to move from the Reds to Seattle.

The NL Central seem to own the awesome 1st baseman.
Votto
Fielder
Pujols

The West has
Loney
Helton
Guzman
Belt/Huff
Goldschmidt

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Padres still have high hopes for Rizzo don’t they?

Nothing is ever easy.

by drulenarendes on Sep 20, 2011 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Funny if Guzman ends up better then Rizzo or Blanks

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

If I were a Padres fan, I would make a Midnight Cowboy reference every single time Rizzo drew a base on balls.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Sep 20, 2011 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Besides Dustin wasn’t there also a famous rat named Rizzo?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m a muppet fan except for one

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe because I didn’t grow up on Sesame Street

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Feel like there’s a lot of revisionist history there to hide that they traded Adrian Gonzalez for Casey Kelly.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Sep 20, 2011 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ll bet they end up with more WAR from Texas in the Adams deal then they get from the Adrian deal.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

It always cracks me up to read other teams/regions thinking about their future

Just like some of the knuckleheads on sports talk radio, these guys don’t write “what if” scenarios about their current players, they write “facts” and explain how these “facts” are indisputable and without argument. Pineda as a top tier starter = FACT! According to McLovin’ on the DP show, Cliff Lee is really the Cy Young candidate to beat, better than Kershaw, better than Halliday = FACT.

To the un-initiated, you can feel like a fool if you disagree with them, but these dudes are just folks with opinions like everyone else. Something we all here at TBLA should be reminded of. A little humility goes a long way.

WHAMMY!

by Champ Kind on Sep 20, 2011 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Name That Current Dodger

Ted Kluszewski (974)
High Pockets Kelly (968) *
Joe Adcock (955)
Mike Ivie (947)
Alvin Davis (942)
Chris Chambliss (941)
Steve Garvey (941)
Garret Anderson (939)
Wally Joyner (935)
Jack Burns (933)

by G.Scott on Sep 20, 2011 3:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Similar Batters through 26

*signifies Hall of Famer

by G.Scott on Sep 20, 2011 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, yeah. Would be cool if he could go all Steve Garvey on us. Without, you know, playing for the Padres.

by G.Scott on Sep 20, 2011 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seems like a lot of those guys hit like Loney until age 24, then got way better and not worse.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Sep 20, 2011 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Off the top of my head I remember Ivie and Joyner being early bloomers then meh. Alvin Davis didn’t have a long career but I thought it was consistent.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Joyner definitely was

and was helped/hurt some by the offensive explosion of ’87 (age 25, second full season): hit 34 HRs that year and never came close to that again. Definitely had a nice career but after that one season, they all looked pretty disappointing by comparison.

by EMDarrow on Sep 20, 2011 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wally World was fun for all

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Without, you know, playing for the Padres. knocking up about every woman he meets

FTFU

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 20, 2011 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, Jack Burns did not star in Meet the Fockers

by G.Scott on Sep 20, 2011 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Less inspiring

Richie Zisk (973)
Bill Nicholson (962)
Jacque Jones (956)
Jim Edmonds (956)
Corey Hart (955)
Cliff Floyd (954)
Rondell White (953)
Aubrey Huff (953)
Dmitri Young (952)
Bobby Higginson (952)

by G.Scott on Sep 20, 2011 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

You kidding

I’ll take that list
Zisk
Edmonds
Hart
Floyd and White were good players whose injuries crashed production
Young

Higgy

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

That list is hitters most similar to Andre Ethier through age 28

by G.Scott on Sep 20, 2011 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Higgy crashed hard but damn he was good for a few years.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Looks like Dre would have to just about turn into 2009 Loney to finish with Zisk’s numbers. Dude was gone at age 34.

by G.Scott on Sep 20, 2011 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Big slow white guys didn’t last long back then.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Especially Pirates
Bob Robertson
Richie Hebner

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Zisk and Robertson were finished, but Hebner dug his own grave.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 20, 2011 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Edmonds, Hart, Floyd, White, Huff (for the most part) and Young were all at least above average

to great hitters. Who is that?

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Sep 20, 2011 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

That list is hitters most similar to Andre Ethier through age 28

by G.Scott on Sep 20, 2011 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have a hunch it is Andre:)

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Having your boss ask you to give her you goals for 2011 in mid-September is like being asked to predict the MLB division winners in, well, mid-September.

by G.Scott on Sep 20, 2011 3:47 PM PDT reply actions  

“Celebrating the five-year anniversary of you asking this question.”

by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

and you've been there all year?

your boss is a lousy boss

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Sep 20, 2011 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Losers

Torres CF
Keppinger 2B
Beltran RF
DeRosa 3B
Pill 1B
Cabrera SS
Christian LF
Stewart C
Lincecum P

by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 3:48 PM PDT reply actions  

lol rugby

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 20, 2011 3:49 PM PDT reply actions  

this has to be the worlds biggest Italian

it ain’t even close…we are not a large people

in the next photo he bites the head off that wee man

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 20, 2011 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Quintin Geldenhuys of Italy: 116kg (18 st 2lb), 2.03m (6 ft 8 in)
Alexander Yanyushkin of Russia: 75kg (11 st 11lb), 1.65m (5 ft 5 in)

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 20, 2011 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh and the short dude scored a try

in the game.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 20, 2011 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

165 pounds is not noting when you’re as tall as I am.

But holy crap, that other dude is huge.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Sep 20, 2011 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

ah, the name is a clincher

He is an Italian by residency, that explains the size

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 20, 2011 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hobbits vs. Ents

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Sep 20, 2011 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

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SP 22 Kershaw $6,000,000
SP 58 Billingsley $9,000,000
SP 29 Lilly $12,000,000
SP 44
Harang $3,000,000
SP 35 Capuano $3,000,000

CL 74
Jansen $491,000
RHP 52 Lindblom $483,000
RHP 51 Belisario $414,426
RHP 54 Guerra $488,000
RHP 28
Wright $900,000
LHP 57 Elbert $488,500
RHP 60 Coffey $1,000,000

DL 27 Kemp $10,000,000
DL 21 Rivera $4,000,000
DL 12 Sellers $481,000
DL 5 Uribe $8,000,000
DL 55 Guerrier $4,750,000
DL 14 Ellis $2,500,000
60DL 36 Hawksworth $495,000
60DL 41 De La Rosa $485,000

AA 50 Eovaldi $7,885
AAA 56 Antonini $7,869



Manny $8,087,432 deferred


Andruw $3,375,000 deferred


Pierre $3,050,000 deferred
Furcal $3,000,000 deferred
Kuroda $2,000,000 deferred
Garland $1,500,000 option buyout
Blake $1,250,000 option buyout
DFA 66 MacDougal $650,000

Totals
$115,942,869

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Current 40-man roster count: 42
(incl. De La Rosa & Hawksworth)

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Manager

Eric___ned___reporters_2011_trade_deadline_small Eric Stephen

Editors

100_1427_small Phil Gurnee

Dgy_small David Young

Hanauma_bay_small Chad Moriyama

2501_small Michael White

Raptors_small Brandon Lennox

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