Spoiler Alert: Dodgers Look To Cool Off Giants
The Dodgers open a three-game series Tuesday night with the Giants, winners of eight straight games and possessors of hope that they can make an improbable run to the playoffs. That puts the Dodgers in the role of spoilers, which is just another layer to the longtime rivalry between the two teams.
I took a look back at 1982 and 1993 for SB Nation Los Angeles, when the Giants and Dodgers took turns eliminating each other from the playoffs on the final day of the regular season.
In 1982, the Dodgers needed a win at Candlestick Park to force a one-game playoff at Dodger Stadium with the Atlanta Braves. The game was tied 2-2 in the bottom of the seventh inning, and relief pitcher (and lifetime .397 hitter) Terry Forster faced Joe Morgan with runners on second and third base with two outs.
Forster got ahead of Morgan 1-2, but hung a slider that the Hall of Famer hammered over the right field fence for a 5-2 lead. "I still remember watching Joe between first and second base," teammate Duane Kuiper said of Morgan, per the San Francisco Chronicle. "He raised his right arm as if to say, 'If we're not going to win it, you're not either.' "
Eleven years later, the Giants needed a win at Dodger Stadium to force a one-game playoff at Candlestick Park with the Braves. The Dodgers, however, had other ideas:
The Dodgers knocked out Salomon Torres in the fourth inning, then hit four home runs off the Giants bullpen as they cruised to a 12-1 win. Mike Piazza hit two of the home runs, ending the greatest rookie season ever for a catcher (.318/.370/.561, 35 home runs, 112 RBI).
For the Dodgers, it ended their season at .500, but was worth celebrating since they eliminated their hated rivals. "We had a little meeting before the game and Tommy [Lasorda] gave us a little pep talk," outfielder Cory Snyder told the Los Angeles Times. "Tommy came in and started reciting the stats and times that the Giants had knocked the Dodgers out of the pennant, and that seemed to be all the incentive we needed."
The Dodgers can't eliminate the Giants from the postseason, but they can potentially officially end San Francisco's hopes of winning the National League West. At the very least, the Dodgers can deliver a crushing blow to the already dim (4.4%) playoff hopes of the Giants.
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I have a vague recollection
Of Tommy Lasorda being interviewed for KTLA back in 93 (I was 9 years old at the time) and taunting the Giants after eliminating them by basically saying, “this is payback for 82.”
I was young and idealistic and I remember feeling shocked at (what at the time seemed like) Tommy being un-sporting.
by Michael White on Sep 20, 2011 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Well, at least he didn’t throw a football that hit a dude, which has been shown to be the worst act of humanity.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions
good god, I thought you delivered us from that
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 20, 2011 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kO9jo8XkOfA
Because this never gets old to watch
That would have been
a dick move
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
When it comes to Tommy Lasorda
Being a Giant is all the excuse needed to be a dick. Even God hates the Giants.
depending if he is on your side or now
Tommy is all (cl)ass
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 20, 2011 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
One of the things I love about Tommy the most is that he loved making the walk from the outfield to the dugout at Candlestick, and just bathed in the boos. He relished it.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
But I didn’t write anything here since Sunday! (I looked last night, and it snapped a 36-day streak)
by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions
put him in LF
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 20, 2011 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions
I remember in high school, me and a few others, including a Giants fan (there’s always one) sneaking into an empty classroom to watch an end of the season Dodgers V Giants game, just in time to watch Mark Guthrie give up a huge home run to Brian Johnson.
by Lex in Brooklyn on Sep 20, 2011 11:20 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
If the DBacks can win at least one game against Pitt, we can eliminate the Giants sometime during this series.
…from the NL West.
SF is still alive for the wild card
by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions
I love that the Dodgers are out of playoff contention...
And yet there is still so much to watch these guys play for. Not that there isn’t always something to watch, even in the bad years like ’10, and ugh ’05. But a chance to see Kershaw get his 20th, AND beat skinny Timmy, AND slow down the GNats, AND hope for a Matt Kemp home run (or 3).
Tonight’s game has so many possibilities, I’m giddy!
WHAMMY!
I think my header should have had a "despite" in there
I don’t love that the Dodgers aren’t in the post season, obviously.
WHAMMY!
Can someone tell me if I am wrong...
The Dodgers currently have the 14th best record in the league at 76-76. That means, we would currently have the 16th overall draft pick in next June’s draft.
A few things:
Isn’t it the rule that if teams sign a Type A free agent, that only picks 16 or below are forfeited as compensation?
If so, we are a half game ahead of Cleveland for our pick to be safe from being lost to compensation in the case that we sign a Type A. Not that with the ownership situation, that would happen anymore, but just a thought.
Yes
If you have a top 15 pick (not counting any supplemental picks added from unsigned players from the previous year) and sign a Type A free agent, you would not give up your first round pick but would give up your second round pick instead.
Also, 14th-best record would net the 17th pick.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Show of hands, how many would give up the Dodgers 1st pick next year
for Prince Fielder? I would. Though it’s weird, the assumption is that the pick would be some slot or below slot guy, but if they are finding money for Fielder maybe that would mean budget situation is different anyway.
Of course, they could also not sign Fielder, and draft below slot, too. Meh.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
I would certainly give up the pick if it meant signing Fielder.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 20, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions
I would not. I am on record as saying I do not want Prince Fielder for anything even remotely resembling the contract he will have earned. Then again, I am clearly a dick.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
but you football in the eye stanch
is in the negative
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 20, 2011 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
stanch?
don’t type and eat at the same time
/lifelessons
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 20, 2011 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions
porn stanch?
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
I will give up the pick and my right to complain about any other moves for one entire year provided the holy duo of K and K remain untouched
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 20, 2011 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
Will the Giants be in the Prince sweepstakes?
If so, I’m rooting for him to have the following season:
1.) An injury in ST that holds him out the first month and a half of the season, followed by…
2.) Horrible slump in the next 2 months, followed by…
3.) A small resurgence, but a sudden case of the yips and a horrible rise in errors, which permanently cements them in the bottom half of the NL West
WHAMMY!
I'd enjoy it
if he smiled when he struck out
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Giants will have a payroll of about $110 million or so without Fielder, so it’s doubtful. If they spend big, it would likely be on Reyes.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions
They’ll pay Zito about $5MM more than we’ll pay Andruw, Juan and Manny next year and get similar production.
Juan, Manny and Andruw
3 names that scare me about acquiring Prince. I’m not saying he’d be Andruw, but the chance of him getting hurt, the possibility of him showing up and partying hard in LA and getting distracted, ugh it just scares me.
WHAMMY!
I'd be more worried about these two words
Mo Vaughn
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Five more years of production is okay by me.
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by regfairfield on Sep 20, 2011 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
That’s an argument against acquiring anyone.
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by regfairfield on Sep 20, 2011 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Fair enough, then what is a reasonable price tag?
Assuming the Dodgers can scrape together the cash to make it work, and not put holding onto K & K for long term future deals at risk?
I suppose the fact that the Yankees, Sox, and Phillies are good at 1st, and the competition of Albert, would make the deal for Fielder possible.
WHAMMY!
its going to be at least 6 years
and at least 20 million per, but I think it ends up closer to 140 then it does to 120
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
So who's gonna pay that?
The Cubs seem to be after Pujols, so who’s next in the big spending category? Angels?
WHAMMY!
Sox could also DH him.
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by regfairfield on Sep 20, 2011 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions
If you have near infinite resources why not?
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by regfairfield on Sep 20, 2011 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions
David Ortiz contract is expiring, so maybe they would.
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by David Young on Sep 20, 2011 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions
If they miss the playoffs (probly wont)
They sign Fielder or Pujols IMO and ditch Ortiz.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
if they miss they Playoffs
they’ll throw a ton of money at CJ Wilson IMO
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 20, 2011 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions
cj wilson gonna be rich
picked a good year to be a free agent
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
ah yup
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 20, 2011 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions
but there are better years then others
boston and yankees desperate for pitching,
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
I don’t think there’s ever a season where either of those teams wouldn’t want the best pitcher available.
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by regfairfield on Sep 20, 2011 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions
ok probably not the orioles. But Nationals
probably go after him.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Someone above mentioned that the Giants payroll
Is too big, $110 million next season, may mean they are out of the Prince and Albert sweepstakes.
WHAMMY!
Without Vogelsong who I’m not even gonna try to bother to guess they’re at about 100, if they backload the deal they could still keep payroll below this years.
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by regfairfield on Sep 20, 2011 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Teixeira signed for 180/8, I imagine he will either get the same amount of money or similar annual value. Maybe 160/7?
Shit, was it 180?
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by regfairfield on Sep 20, 2011 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions
If the Dodgers actually did try to go after Fielder...
A big if, I shudder to think how F-ed up that deal would look. We’d be paying Fielder well into the 2020 season with all sorts of back end cash and such.
WHAMMY!
I’d be pissed off about it too, sitting there in front of my PC in 2020 wearing my worn out Dodgers back to back 2013 and 2014 World series championship tees
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 20, 2011 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow
You believe we are really that close, with our current pitching roster? I like your optimism though.
WHAMMY!
Now if you can bring in Prince and Kuroda…
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by regfairfield on Sep 20, 2011 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Also, you wouldn't be sitting in front of anything
Your eyes would have “i-Lenses” grafted on that allow you to check e-mail, post blogs, chat, surf the net, etcs. all through the power of your mind.
WHAMMY!
i hope it doesn’t post what i think, because what i think usually takes revisions before it gets posted.
The most common comment would become “GFY”.
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by David Young on Sep 20, 2011 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions
2014 World Series MVP Kyle Russell just wasn't ready yet in 2012
Otherwise it would be a 3peat :)
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
:)
you and me are the only ones on this bandwagon
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 20, 2011 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
heh
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 20, 2011 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions
we will ride it till the wheels go flying off :)
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Teixiera’s deal is a good comp. 8/160. Prince doesn’t have the glove but he’s two years younger
Could be some surprise teams like Toronto or Washington involved so I wouldn’t count on too much of a discount.
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by regfairfield on Sep 20, 2011 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I’d do it
but Price does have the body type that gets old fast
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 20, 2011 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions
but he is still only 27
so we would have 6 years before that would happen hopefully probably
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Mo Vaughn is the comp that gets used and he broke down at 33.
Sad fact is you can’t expect performance out of every year of these megadeals, so you just hope the years they’re healthy more than make up for it.
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by regfairfield on Sep 20, 2011 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions
then you have david ortiz
who is 35 and still trucking
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Ortiz did look like he was crashing though
age 33 season: .238 / .332 / .462 / .794 after a difficult and injured year before.
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by David Young on Sep 20, 2011 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Let's just get Pujols instead ;)
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Lets just get both
Pujols can play 3B or LF, after all. Maybe not well, but with both and Kemp, who cares?
Let's have Prince play SS and Pujols play 3B
best hitting team worst fielding team!!! I’d like to be the Knicks of the MLB, lol.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
"...then we dine in the shade."
:)
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
fight?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 20, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
fuck, lol
Been a while, not sure why I put that.
/no breakfast this morning :(
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
That's even better
Better to be unintentionally funny than try and fail (as usual).
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
This was a rhetorical question, right? If you are signing Prince Fielder, the draft pick you are yielding is the least of the factors to consider.
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by David Young on Sep 20, 2011 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Seems like a lot of "ifs" in that statement
Might be worth waiting until the rest of the season closes up before we worry about whether we may or may not get compensated. But maybe I am looking at this the wrong way.
WHAMMY!
Late to the party
I read and enjoyed Chad’s piece about Loney.
It seems:
1) There has been a real change, and
2) That isn’t surprising, because Gary told us that there’s been a real change, and Tony said so too, and
3) Loney is the kind of player who is always making changes, which is the problem, because
4) Who knows if he’ll keep on doing this or what will happen when the slump eventually comes around.
My only issue is in the conclusion. Chad writes:
unless the Dodgers can get Albert Pujols, Prince Fielder, or Lance Berkman, I’d rather give Loney another shot if he comes at a reasonable salary (4-6 million?) even though I had previously preferred signing Carlos Pena (probably more expensive).
… it is easy to agree with that, but it may not be the choice. To get Loney at a reasonable salary, they must non-tender him, and if they non-tender him, he may find a home elsewhere. So what does that mean? Should the Dodgers punt on Fielder/Pujols and work out a deal with Loney in which they non-tender him and immediately sign him to a new (and reasonable) deal? Or should they non-tender him and take their chances? Or should they tender him and pay him the $7 million he’ll likely get?
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
we missed you this morning
there was much to be mocked and smirked at
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 20, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions
I’ll go back and take a look at lunchtime.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Sep 20, 2011 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Cliff’s Notes: Throwing a football at a dude’s face from point-blank range is not a dick move. Saying it’s a dick move is a dick move. So they tell me.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
making it personal
by trawling tblackjacks comments for comments that really where not relevant was a dick move.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
by nolander on Sep 20, 2011 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I did not make it personal. I did not insult Tommy at all. I have called nobody a dick except myself.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
but then I have to get back to work
and nobody wants that!
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Good lord, what did I miss.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Sep 20, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Went back and read it, which was almost certainly a dick move on my part.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Sep 20, 2011 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m doing boss-directed work that has nothing to do with my work, I feel like I’m in procrastination purgatory.
Many years ago
I had a manager that made a point of picking out a random female worker and directing her to go get his car washed. That’s a dick move
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
those were the days my friend
when goils were goils
what happened to us as a culture, nobody washes my car, clothes, or body but me….we had it all and gave it away
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 20, 2011 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Because we were all drunk at the time too
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
“Where is the cream?!”
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Sep 20, 2011 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
I am one of them “liberated men.” I been liberated to get up with the baby in the middle of the night, wipe the baby’s ass, and plan a birthday party.
In short, I been liberated to worry about keeping my job AND about raising the children.
That liberation calls for libations*.
*I’m going for the informal definition of the word. Nobody jump down my throat.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Sep 20, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
we escaped this conversation once
leave it behind or take it to the hate thread
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 20, 2011 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions
word
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 20, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
I read that quickly
and looked like “dick expert” on the first go around, hahah.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
i didn't say that
My Position
Throwing a football at a dude’s face because you’re super pumped at the TD you just made = bonehead move
Not apologizing for it = dick move
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 20, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
he's seen it all
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 20, 2011 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions
In fairness to Zim, he really knew how to blow a load lead.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Sep 20, 2011 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
"I never could stand that little fucking gerbil"
- Vin Scully, on Don Zimmer
/probably never actually said that
by The Dude Abides on Sep 20, 2011 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 20, 2011 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I think my ears would fall off my head if I ever heard Vin Scully curse. It just doesn’t seem like two things that should go together.
I have the audio clips saved on two different computers
by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
and in a jump drive shoved well up my ass
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 20, 2011 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Pardon me, but did we know this — that the Gibson HR is due almost entirely to Vin Scully calling him out?
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Sep 20, 2011 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions
So Bucknor
also missed the Aaron home run. I never realized he was close to two monumental plays.
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
just means he did it right
like that one thing that happened…..what was it……oh right, the sixties.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 20, 2011 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions
but the intern gets a cool story to tell and to be on national TV, he should be thankful for the ball to the face.
he's a youtube
sensation
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 20, 2011 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
They can simply agree to a contract with him
without cutting him. Does loney really think he will make more then 4-6 million on the open market? Is he willing to take that chance while leaving the team I hope he dearly loves?
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Even if he doesn’t, he might think that playing somewhere like Houston would boost his numbers and make him look like a better FA candidate for 2013. And he might be right.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Sep 20, 2011 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Not exactly
They will negotiate with him before the tender deadline. If they don’t agree before then, they non-tender him.
by Michael White on Sep 20, 2011 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions
Only because I got LAT'd
and never answered Marty’s question, the LA History blog is a blogger blog, you can just comment there. Fairly easy since google bought blogger.
I got distracted writing a longish piece on Hollywood.
Now let’s get back to this one.
Calm down
She didn’t say she was writing about a longish piece on Hollywood
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
by mleadman on Sep 20, 2011 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Good work here.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Sep 20, 2011 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
9AM – Veterans Memorial Park in Commerce
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 20, 2011 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
i’m 10am at College of the canyons. One of these days I’ll get a 1pm game and I’ll get to come watch you play.
would be fun
next time we are down a few guys – will see if we can get you in as a super sub
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 20, 2011 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
EtHAHAHier
I’m enjoying my last week in LA…whose coming out to the Giants series this week?!
Don’t freak out…I just mean my last week in LA this year! GO BLUE!
cal. lakers. dodgers. packers. chelsea.
vols. rangers. galaxy.
LOL
at least he realizes people can freak out when he says shit like this.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 20, 2011 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Exactly
Perhaps he’s learned his lesson. It may also belay the point that he finally realizes he’s coming back next year, given his injury, his value went down and he’s gotta stick with his mates in LA.
WHAMMY!
I am of the minority who belives
Andre Ethier actually likes being a Dodger
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 20, 2011 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Who wouldn't?
Well besides Vogelsong, but no one cares about that little whiny b****
cal. lakers. dodgers. packers. chelsea.
vols. rangers. galaxy.
Matt Diaz.
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by regfairfield on Sep 20, 2011 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
he just hates traffic
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 20, 2011 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I am a Caucasian who believes that as well.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
LOL
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 20, 2011 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I'll admit, I had to read it a couple of times.
"I’m back to my first love – the Oakland Raiders and working with the Offensive Line. I’m a Raider for life." -- Steve Wisniewski
by S Jay Bruin on Sep 20, 2011 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions
facebook or twitter i'm sure
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Time to catch Verlander tonight
MLB ERA
1) Verlander 2.287
2) Kershaw 2.305
To pass Verlander, if Kershaw gives up…
0 runs, he needs to pitch at least 2 innings (you never know, Kershaw could hit Panda in the elbow)
1 run, he needs to pitch at least 5 2/3 innings (2.2868 to 2.2869!)
2 runs, he needs to pitch at least 9 2/3 innings
MLB K
1) Verlander 244
2) Kershaw 236
3) CC 224
4) Lee 223
HGT
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 20, 2011 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions
so a 1 run complete game it is
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
I'd prefer a 0 run complete game.
But that’s just me…
cal. lakers. dodgers. packers. chelsea.
vols. rangers. galaxy.
I'd prefer a 27 K game.
But that’s just me…
cal. lakers. dodgers. packers. chelsea.
vols. rangers. galaxy.
I might pee myself
I haven’t been this excited for a Dodger game since opening day
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 20, 2011 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions
… for a game after the team has been eliminated from the post-season.
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by David Young on Sep 20, 2011 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Is Teixeira a good comp that we want to shoot for? If this year becomes his norm you are paying 22Million for a 115 OPS+ 1st baseman. Yikes
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You just laid out a case
For why the Prince deal scares me. Call it the pessimist in me, but I just see the potential for disaster, or at the very least, mediocrity but with a price tag that hurts us in some other capacity.
WHAMMY!
Yes, but...
Some have more inherent risk than others. If Sabermetrics have taught us anything, its that swinging a big bat, while cool, isn’t always as optimal if you fail in other areas.
WHAMMY!
Then again
Anyone else in the owners box, who didn’t author Angela’s Ashes, might bring in the type of money where this isn’t as much of a concern. But who knows when that will be.
WHAMMY!
Will This Free Agent Be A Good Signing?
Good player, lots of money – Maybe, but expect a couple down years anyway
Good player, no money – Hahahaha
Mediocre player, mediocre money – No
Mediocre player lots of money – “But Barry Zito was the best guy out there”
Bad player, no money – Who cares
Bad player, lots of money – You are Dayton Moore
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by regfairfield on Sep 20, 2011 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Basically free agents signings will blow up in your face because the Yankees and Red Sox took the ones you’d actually want.
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by regfairfield on Sep 20, 2011 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions
LIke JD Drew and Julio Lugo
And Lackey
Lets not forget Cameron
and throw in Dice fucking K
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m also willing to accept free agent signings never work out, you’re doomed.
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by regfairfield on Sep 20, 2011 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Just to clarify for me, who have the Red Sox signed as a free agent that anyone would actually want? I guess Scutaro, otherwise all I see is a team built on the draft and trades.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Fair enough.
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by regfairfield on Sep 20, 2011 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
And I left off Crawford because he’s going to kick ass next year.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Crawford scares me
and did last year, in a similar way that Johnny Damon scared me back when he first left the Sox and so many people thought he was (one of) the best available FAs: he does many things well, but does virtually nothing exceptionally well (aside from steal totals), so if any one thing regresses (like, he goes from a .300 hitter to a .280 hitter, as he has a few times in past seasons) then he becomes extremely pedestrian.
Adrian Gonzales?
But I don’t recall how much they paid him. But to someone else’s point, if they have unlimited dollars, what difference does it make, the fact is they have him. Whether they paid him a lot or little, it doesn’t seem to matter.
WHAMMY!
traded for him
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 20, 2011 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Stay on point
Basically free agents signings will blow up in your face because the Yankees and Red Sox took the ones you’d actually want.
Not a free agent.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
have to consider them being able to trade away their prospects for top impending free agents because they can afford to extend the guys they acquire, no?
Reg could make that argument but he didn’t.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions
fair enough.
On the flip side, you could also see instances of them signing the top guy for more money than your team was comfortable spending, having it not pan out as planned, and saving your team from being bogged down for the next half decade. Imagine if the Angels had outbid the Red Sox for Lackey, maybe they aren’t able to trade for Haren?
Unlike Reg I see the Sox and Yankee’s doing the rest of baseball a huge favor.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions
No idea what Tex’s xBABIP is, but his actual BABIP this year is .239. But yes, definitely a concern with any big deal.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions
IS XBABIP A REAL THING OR ARE YOU GUYS JUST BEING FUNNY
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
as much a real thing as xNOLANDER is.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions
For Reg
From Todd Zola
In 2005, I introduced what I call Category Efficiency Ratings which lead to CER values. Based on the non-linear distribution of the categories, I weight them differently (increase HR, decrease SB). The rest of the process is exactly the same. The resultant values are eerily similar to those derived from SGP.
So in effect you could say I have a mathematical adjustment for both positional and categorical scarcity, because it is the aforementioned non-linear distribution that spurs categorical scarcity
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Sad
News about Derrick Hall being diagnosed woth prostate cancer, good luck to him.
by bhsportsguy on Sep 20, 2011 12:31 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
who doesn’t
and good luck
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Correct me if I'm wrong...
But if the dodgers sweep the giants and the dbags win one game and the braves sweep their series won’t that eliminate the giants?
by soolongfrankie on Sep 20, 2011 12:31 PM PDT reply actions
The Braves can’t sweep their series because they lost on Monday night.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions
True that I didn’t know the braves had Thursday off. Well that blows cuz I’ll be at the game on Thursday.
by soolongfrankie on Sep 20, 2011 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Braves had a one-run lead in the ninth, but Chipper Jones made one of the worst fielding plays of the season, then Omar Infante took Craig Kimbrel deep
by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Can’t really blame Chipper for the Marlins playing in a stadium that has its lights setup for football. The lights are lower than in most (if not all) baseball stadiums and he clearly lost it in those lights.
and they are facing three pitchers who are favored to win.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions
December 22, 2009: Traded by the Atlanta Braves with Boone Logan to the New York Yankees for Melky Cabrera, Michael Dunn, Arodys Vizcaino and cash.
Nothing against Vizcaino and his bright future, but if I’m the Braves I probably wish I had Vazquez going from them in this series instead of Delgado.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
The Giants could very well catch the Braves but lose to the Cardinals. If I was in the postseason I’d be frothing to play the Braves.
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Frothing Phil
causes fainting
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 20, 2011 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Trivia Time
The picture of Piazza at the top of this page has a black #52 patch on his left sleeve, but there is also a black patch on his right sleeve. The right sleeve was also turned into a button that was worn by all Dodgers employees that year. Who are the Dodgers being commemorated?
#52
Tim Crews and his dastardly mustache.
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by David Young on Sep 20, 2011 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Crews sustained an injured lung and a "very serious head injury," said Joe Brown, a spokesman at Orlando Regional Medical Center. He is in the intensive care unit.
No surgery was planned for Crews until his condition could be stabilized, Brown said.
With the Dodgers last season, Crews was 0-3 with a 5.19 earned-run average in 49 games
He didn’t make it.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions
x

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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Should be able to cruise to an easy and quick answer…damnit Dave
by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm in a shitty named FF league.
It’s called “fear the beard”. Div names are Cain lincicum Wilson. Shitty right! So I proudly named my team
“Tommy Lasorda”!
Yeah! In your face dumb giants.
by Skunkburner on Sep 20, 2011 12:46 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Bravo
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 20, 2011 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
You should have named it “Casey Blake”.
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by David Young on Sep 20, 2011 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions
One of the names is spelled wrong.
It is Licecum.
cal. lakers. dodgers. packers. chelsea.
vols. rangers. galaxy.
That mistake is on me. TL is the best name. Because when I won I just smile and wave.
by Skunkburner on Sep 20, 2011 2:14 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Yankee Fun
Teixeira 22 Million 115 OPS+
D Jeter 15 Million 95 OPS+
Alex Rodriguez 29 Million 121 OPS+
Jorge Posada 13 Million 88 OPS+
AJ Burnett 16.5 MIllion 83 ERA+
Good thing they had another 100 Million to blow
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Cashman is a fucking genius
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Welp, I just met another Dodger at Rubios
Yes, yes I did — Russ Mitchell.
He looked familiar, but I didn’t want to say anything until the cashier called his order.
“Order for Russ.”
Me: “Hey are you Russ Mitchell?”
[Surprised look] Russ: “Yeah.”
Me: “Can’t wait for tonight! Kershaw for 20!”
Russ: “Are you going?”
Me: “Yeah” (I’m really not). “Good luck!”
So you can lie to baseball players?
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
why should they be different than anybody else
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 20, 2011 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Indeed
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions
I met Pete Rose once
Signing autographs at a Toyota Dealership. I told him he was my favorite player…I lied.
WHAMMY!
If I told Pete Rose he was my favorite player my teeth would fall out
I could tell him, “Hey Pete, I was a Dodger fan, so I always hated you” which he should understandably take as a compliment
I could also say “Hey Pete, I kinda think you’re a scumbag degenerate gambler, but loved the way you played the game – if Ty Cobb, that racist ass is in the HoF, well, you should be in there too” Which he would probably like
I could also say…..
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 20, 2011 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
I still don’t understand fans who equate racism to gambling as a reason why Rose should be in the HOF. Being a dick is not relative to the argument.
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Gambling (ON BASEBALL) is a whole different animal than any number of other sins. Pete Rose absolutely does not belong in the Hall of Fame, whether or not he apologizes.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
I don’t have the moral fervor of either of you gentlemen about this issue
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 20, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Has nothing whatsoever to do with morality.
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You seem kinda pissed today
After this post I’m gonna do my best to not taunt the (whatever figurative animal is relevant in this conversation).
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Not my neighbors
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
My wife's gynecologist for one time only
http://www.healthgrades.com/physician/dr-bonnie-beaver-xw49n
Can’t make this stuff up.
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I hope she has a sense of humor
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Her office had Beaver’s all over it.
The furry kind
Wait
I mean the animal kind
Wait
These guys

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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Is that a tail between it's legs
or is he just happy to see us?
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
by mleadman on Sep 20, 2011 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
cool
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 20, 2011 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Josh "Taco" Bell?
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
I think there is a Brady Bunch episode in here somewhere
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 20, 2011 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions
That was in the last thread when Jan got hit in the eye with the football
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Wasn't it Marcia?
Or did Jan get hit too?
The NFL commercial making the rounds of late with all the footballs flying to various people around the country even includes a clip of Marcia getting hit. I laughed the first time I saw it.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions
I only used her name because someone mentioned it above. I only had eyes for Jan, I think she was my age.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
sounds like
me and Stephanie Tanner
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 20, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions
really?
scrawny nerdy hip works for you eh?
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 20, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Star kisser
(at 13 I hope that is all you were)
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 20, 2011 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I was going to make a joke about Cindy, but there is no way to not make it sound creepy, so I shall pass…this time.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I expected you to go the Cousin Oliver route.
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that was weird, the whole live in maid thing getting it on with the thick headed butcher
like what was that all about?
a white maid too? Was that an enlightened TV for the time, not making the maid “of color”, or was it hyper-racism by not allowing anyone of color on the show at all
and when Joe Namath and Mrs Brady had that threesome with Big D, well the whole thing jumped the shark
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 20, 2011 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Unless you were around for it
it is hard to explain what a big deal “Fonzie” was to pop culture in the mid-70s.
I mean Fonzie would make eating veggies cool, he got glasses, he wore a helmet (well they rarely showed him wearing a helmet but he had one). He even went back to complete his high school education to show that learning was coolamundo.
eeeeyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 20, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
what’s wrong with a hyper-sexualized, borderline thug, high-school dropout, motorcycle mechanic living above your garage?
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 20, 2011 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions
He was totes a junkie
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
apparently he was 19 when the show started
but he seemed way older then that, yet cavorted around with high school girls.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
I’m not sure why this is creepy to you….
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the actor was 29
but the character was 19, to clarify. He didn’t look 19.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
I hope there’s nothing wrong with that. It’s all I’ve got!
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 20, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I LOVE BRISKET
and how about that chicken:)
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As a Jew, I can tell you that brisket really does taste even better if you cook it with bacon.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 20, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
What doesn’t
however that has nothing to do with the chicken that was so good it tasted like pork.
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I could make a joke here, but it would end up getting the thatsracist.gif.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Sep 20, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions
If Hollywood ever makes the story of the Bride and Humma love affair, there will be a scene at Burbank airport where I tearfully put her on a plane, and she’ll say, “But what about us?” and I’ll say, “We’ll always have brisket.”
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Sep 20, 2011 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I’m not sure the world is ready for Humma in 3D.
Bride in 3D is really somethin’, though.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 20, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Laurie Partridge.
I did encounter Susan Dey in her LA Law days in a Studio City movie theater once. Turns out, she’s pretty scrawny.
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It was Marcia. I said Jan, just cause I always remember her getting shat on
by Josie Becker on Sep 20, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Should have known you would point me in the wrong direction
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Like a broken compass, you’ll never know when I’m right.
by Josie Becker on Sep 20, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions
There is a business I pass sometimes, not too far from where Phil is, which I think is a clothing business, called Marcia, and the outside has “Marcia” in script written over and over again in a stripe across the building. Whenever I pass it, I cannot help but think of the episode.
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That's cool
Should have asked him if he thought his shaved head helped his swing any. :)
Also, we need to know, did he go for the hot salsa, or mild?
by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Don’t know about the salsa part, but I will say that dude isn’t much taller than me. And I consider myself fairly short.
by silverwidow on Sep 20, 2011 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions
not surprising
listed 5’ 11"
210 lbs
Pretty damn close to me, although our fat to muscle ratios probably differ a bit
BTW – you didn’t seem short at the TBLA softball game
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 20, 2011 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Silverwidow played a good first base for us :)
by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Instead of Phil and me and whoever doing a bunch of pinch-running, we should have used SW as the ghost runner.
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“No, no, he definitely scored on that play at the plate. What a slide!”
by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Awesome
I’m sure he was indeed surprised that anyone recognizes him. He’s like, I’m not Matt Kemp or Aaron Miles, the real superstars!
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
That's pretty sweet, I'd love to meet a Dodger
Or pro baseball player, or pro sports player, or famous person. Lol
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
I could have made my Cindy joke, and not had the creepiest comment in the thread!
by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
This allows room for you to do that now :P
Honestly I don’t care about meeting anyone famous, I just feel like it might make for a good, quick story later on.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
If the season ended today
Who’s more likely to win their respective award:
Kemp for MVP / Kershaw Cy Young
BUT
Who’s more deserving, stripping away the BS politics and the idea that MVP’s have to come from a winning team?
Annnnddd BEGIN!
WHAMMY!
+1
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 20, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Has Tango been proven right?
He’s got a lot of stats and theories, I’ve never bothered to check up to see if he was proven absolute on all his concepts.
WHAMMY!
Halladay's tough to argue against
Then again, Kershaw’s numbers “appear” better now, with the exception of CGs and innings pitched.
WHAMMY!
Not to be confused with fap
which is a whole different thing, man.
Some numbers
Kemp / Braun:
OPS+: 165 / 166
bWAR: 9.0 / 7.5
fWAR: 7.6 / 7.0
wOBA: .411 / .431
wRC+: 165 / 178
We are seeing one helluva year from Mr. Kemp.
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I <3 Kemp and Kershaw
They have single handedly (just about) kept people coming to the stadium this year.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
I wish I could go to tonight's game. Can't wait to watch Kid K
AND ITS FREE HAT GIVEAWAY NIGHT!
Well
Josie would never wear it and Eric would shred it into little pieces, burn it and then salt the ground he burned the hat on.
So you are not missing much of hat
at lunch i saw a car with both cal and usc decals on the back window. i shuffled away as quickly as i could.
Haven’t many people educated in LA gone to both institutions?
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As a kid growing up it seemed unfathomable to me that someone could go to both schools, and then I found out that a large % of educated people don’t give a shit about football or basketball or even sports. I had no idea.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
A lot of people find (or at least found, back in the day) that they could get a good, inexpensive undergrad education at UCLA, then get a job with an employer that will pay for your graduate degree at USC. Almost all the Masters and PhD candidates in my area here at work are in a USC program.
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Dodgers excited for tonight...early ass lineup
Gordon SS
Sellers 2B
Kemp CF
Rivera LF
Loney 1B
Miles 3B
Sands RF
Barajas C
Kershaw P
Because of Chad’s optimistic post I expect nothing but fly balls to LF, ground balls to 2nd, and the occasional strikeout tonight from Mr. Loney.
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John Ely could be pitching against us and I’d have made the same comment.
Sands will probably have a .680 OPS THIS week.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
So in other words
D2X is making bank tonight.
Still pimpin
New fanpost up about the Bowling Night this Friday. I’ll be pimping it the next few days in the comments so if you could either green those comments so people see them or rec the fanpost to the top (mods stick it at the top of the page when one of tomorrow’s threads gets long, hmmmmmmmm?) Either way, thanks to those who decide to come out, if you read these articles but don’t post, you’re of course more than welcome to come. TBLA events are a great way to meet the people behind the screen names and make it feel more like a family and community than just pixels and syntax.
http://www.truebluela.com/2011/9/19/2437068/tbla-bowling-this-friday-friday-friday-9-23
by G.Scott on Sep 20, 2011 1:49 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I guess it is easy
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 20, 2011 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions
TBLA events are a great way to meet the people behind the screen names and make it feel more like a family and community than just pixels and syntax.
I was told I’m just a bunch of angry pixels with no syntax
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I saw Contagion over the weekend
For a movie where millions of people die, it was surprisingly devoid of tension for me. Kind of a boring flick. But Elliot Gould does call a blog “graffiti with punctuation”, so there’s that.
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lets sign bam bam
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
by nolander on Sep 20, 2011 1:57 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
no sir
he’s dissapointed in you
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 20, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
GOOD GOD
was he trying to say BOOM BOOM?
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 20, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
This whole subthread was hilarious to read after the fact.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Bam Bam is a bad cartoon character in a bad cartoon.
Boom Boom is a fan favorite baseball player.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Sep 20, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Whether you hear the syllable “ba” or “fa” is entirely dependent upon what your eyes see.
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Sep 20, 2011 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Is that anything like Shake Your Bon Bon?
God I hope not.
Crazy talk, the Flinstones were awesome for their time. Next you are going to tell me that Bullwinkle is a never was.
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I would never say such a thing. I cannot believe you are equating Bullwinkle and the Flintstones.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Sep 20, 2011 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I hope you're kidding
or else I now feel old. Felix the Cat was one of my first cartoon favorites, up there with Mighty Mouse.
Felix, the cat
The wonderful wonderful cat?
Whenever he gets in a fix, he reaches into his bag of tricks?
THIS ISN’T ROCKET SCIENCE PAL!!!!
(storms off)
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 20, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions
i mean COME ON
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Sep 20, 2011 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions
The Giants hitting coach? No thanks!
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
it's been calling
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 20, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
London’s burnin
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
and IIIIIIII LIVE BY THE RIVER!
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Elvohich (sp?) said they were going. Forgive me for the horrible spelling of the name, lol.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Nevermind, I'm just dumb all around!
I wish I could go to tonight’s game. Can’t wait to watch Kid K
AND ITS FREE HAT GIVEAWAY NIGHT!
by elvinkch on Sep 20, 2011 1:32 PM PDT reply actions
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
I'm going to go sit in the corner and play with my blocks now
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
if you keep making castles
i’m putting you in front of a Double Dragon arcade machine
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by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 20, 2011 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions
They’re going to more than one?
/Maddz
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how many times did you have to touch your nose to your fingers and toes while counting?
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 20, 2011 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions
If you're still trying to figure out the CFB situation
and you like charts, well the NYT has an article on the Geography of College Football that I found really insightful.
I’m not kidding, i love everything about this article.
I love sports, and I love geography.
by Michael White on Sep 20, 2011 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions
In other words, on a per-capita basis, there are probably about 5 times as many football fans in Birmingham as there are in New York. So although the New York media market is about 10 times larger, it has fewer than twice as many college football fans as Birmingham.
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Makes sense since you have three things to do in Birmingham
-Watch football
-Smoke meth
-Watch football while smoking meth
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by regfairfield on Sep 20, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions
The S.E.C. has few large media markets — Atlanta’s Georgia Tech is in the A.C.C., as is the University of Miami. But if it adds Texas A&M, it will be up to 15.6 million fans total, just barely behind the Big Ten (17.5 million). The enthusiasm for college football in the Southeast and a lot of mid-sized markets with decent population growth adds up to a very valuable brand — as, of course, does the exceptional quality of the product on the field.
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All I needed to see
was S.E.C. and I knew this was a New York Times story.
So says the U.C.L.A. fan.
I can’t wait for the New York Times to do a story on True Blue L.A., just so they can reference G.F.Y.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
H. I. T. N. G.
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Sep 20, 2011 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions
On the other hand, the Pacific-12’s latest targets — Texas, Oklahoma, Texas Tech and Oklahoma State — have about 5.1 million fans between them, which would expand the conference’s aggregate fan base by almost 70 percent. No wonder the Pacific-12 might be willing to make some academic and geographic compromises in order to get them.
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I mean, when Cal is your #3, something’s wrong
by Josie Becker on Sep 20, 2011 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions
You have double the base of Stanford, maybe you need to raise your standards.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I have to imagine that Stanford has few non-alumni fans. It’s not a regional brand the way USC and UCLA are, the casual football fan in the South Bay is probably more concerned with the 49ers. Cal has benefitted from good years under Tedford and dreadful years from the Raiders.
by Josie Becker on Sep 20, 2011 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
You think so?
Even with Luck, and the Harbaugh years? I know this is anecdotal but talking to friends who grew up in the Silicon Valley, and there were a lot of Stanford fans.
WHAMMY!
when I say casual football fan I’m imagining your average Joe type, and just looking at Stanford, Vanderbilt, Northwestern…all at the bottom of their conference by fan base in that article, despite two in major markets.
by Josie Becker on Sep 20, 2011 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Smart people don’t feel the need to fill a void in their lives with sports?
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they do, but by law of averages, most people in America are C students
by Josie Becker on Sep 20, 2011 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions
most people in America are C students
Is that still true, with grade inflation?
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Sep 20, 2011 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t know.
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Sep 20, 2011 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Isn’t a C student at Stanford still smarter then 90% of the nation?
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I meant more, in high school. Most people maintain a C-B average, go to their local state school.
by Josie Becker on Sep 20, 2011 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Most people don’t go to college, correct?
by Michael White on Sep 20, 2011 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions
that I don’t know, private school kid my whole life, my perception is skewed
by Josie Becker on Sep 20, 2011 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions
going to public school in orange county
is like going to a private school, but cheaper.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
no
irvine IS the largest city, but it is still but one city. I never lived or went to school in irvine until I was 18 and I will probably never live in irvine again.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
35 cities
t also includes a small adjacent area of northwest San Diego County, specifically parts of Marine Corps Base Camp Pendleton and San Onofre State Park. It includes some of the wealthiest communities in the United States; including such cities as Newport Beach, Irvine, Lake Forest, Portola Hills, Coto de Caza, Dove Canyon, Aliso Viejo, Trabuco Canyon, Capistrano Beach, Corona Del Mar, Laguna Niguel, Laguna Hills, Laguna Woods, Newport Coast, Foothill Ranch, Robinson Ranch, Mission Viejo, San Juan Capistrano, Rancho Santa Margarita, Ladera Ranch, Dana Point, Laguna Beach, and San Clemente. Costa Mesa is shared between the 949 and 714 area codes, being split at Wilson Street and along Newport Boulevard
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
So how does this apply to Stanford, Northwestern, and Vanderbilt. I was not talking about the general population but the fact the best academic schools in each conference had the lowest fan base.
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those schools all have like a 10% acceptance rate, small graduating classes, and a personal appeal rather than a regional appeal, is what i’d argue
by Josie Becker on Sep 20, 2011 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Because the general fan doesn’t like getting lectured by the alumni fans about how they aren’t real fans.
by Michael White on Sep 20, 2011 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions
And those 3 schools suck at football.
Stanford is good, for now, but they’ll be right back to sucking by this time next year. None of those schools would ever go on a run of dominance like other private schools Notre Dame, USC or Miami did.
by Michael White on Sep 20, 2011 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions
FWIIW – I’ve always rooted for Stanford in football. Might be because of Jim Plunkett
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I’ve also disliked Cal since 1969 because of Joe Kapp.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I don’t think Stanford nor Cal are particularly attractive to non-alumni fans. Josie has argued that Cal has a bit of appeal and the poll seems to suggest she’s right.
That being said, it’s just a geography thing. Like with Alabama, Oregon and Oregon State fans are likely a much higher percentage of the population since there is only one pro-team in Oregon. On the other hand, Oregon and Oregon State sucked for 30 years before getting good again recently.
by Michael White on Sep 20, 2011 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I liked Plunkett and his little overachiever receiver Randy Vataha, and I liked them for beating Ohio St. in the Rose Bowl.
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Immediately preceding that
For instance, according to Google Insights for Search, the term "college football" is searched for about 5 times as often in Birmingham, Alabama as it is in New York City, relative to overall search traffic.
My interpretation is that fans in Alabama constantly search for “college football” while fans elsewhere actually bookmark the sites they use. ;-) I’m surprised Arkansas isn’t darker.
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by David Young on Sep 20, 2011 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
The only good thing about sitting around waiting
for the state legislature to actually do something; I get time to catch up on TBLA threads.
Matt Kemp won the Roy Campanella Award
by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 2:31 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
nice
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 20, 2011 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Kemp joins
2006 – Rafael Furcal
2007 – Russell Martin
2008 – James Loney
2009 – Juan Pierre
2010 – Jamey Carroll
Roy Campanella Award is given to the Dodger player who best exemplifies the spirit and leadership of the late Hall of Fame catcher. Dodger uniform personnel vote for this award.
Mike announced via twitter that
MikeSciosciasTI
I always knew there was something wrong with @banchovie, and now she confirmed it by agreeing to marry me. Ha!
If the Dodgers don’t win tonight, we have our Yoko
by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Sorry if this was posted already
http://www.ussmariner.com/2011/09/19/forget-prince-fielder-target-joey-votto-instead/
In which Dave Cameron suggests Pineda could be a part of a trade package for Votto. (There’s also some subtle Fielder-bashing in it.)
Hey Cincinnati please trade us one of the best hitters in baseball for a guy that had a 104 ERA+ this year.
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by regfairfield on Sep 20, 2011 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I can’t see CIN trading an MVP player in his early prime, but the fact he’s only signed for two more years is interesting.
Sure, but the Central is ripe for the next two years so Cincinatti has no reason to make their team substantially worse.
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by regfairfield on Sep 20, 2011 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh wait he wants to add Brandon League well okay then.
I’m not gonna say this is the worst trade Dave Cameron has come up with, but man that’s an absolute fantasy.
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by regfairfield on Sep 20, 2011 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Mike Stanton is a fish, but he is not smaller.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions
< 26, 2009 - 2011, OPS+>120, >400 at bats < 500 games
I removed everyone who has a large contract or is due one in the next 12 months.
Rk Player OPS+ G AB From To Age PA BA OBP SLG OPS Pos Tm
6 Kendrys Morales 139 152 566 2009 2009 26-26 622 .306 .355 .569 .924 *3 LAA
7 Evan Longoria 137 431 1609 2009 2011 23-25 1863 .275 .362 .509 .871 *5/D TBR
9 Shin-Soo Choo 136 156 583 2009 2009 26-26 685 .300 .394 .489 .883 *9/7D8 CLE
13 Matthew Joyce 132 219 679 2009 2011 24-26 786 .262 .349 .483 .832 *9/7D8 TBR
14 Mike Stanton 132 242 847 2010 2011 20-21 963 .263 .345 .532 .877 *9/8D FLA
16 Carlos Santana 130 191 668 2010 2011 24-25 811 .244 .364 .463 .826 *2/3D CLE
18 Billy Butler 129 469 1771 2009 2011 23-25 1992 .304 .371 .474 .846 *3D KCR
19 Pablo Sandoval 128 413 1542 2009 2011 22-24 1695 .302 .355 .500 .855 *5/3D2 SFG
21 Ike Davis 123 183 652 2010 2011 23-24 750 .271 .357 .460 .817 *3 NYM
22 Andrew McCutchen 123 413 1554 2009 2011 22-24 1794 .278 .365 .459 .824 *8/D PIT
23 Alex Avila 122 265 792 2009 2011 22-24 923 .270 .361 .457 .818 *2/D5 DET
26 Buster Posey 120 160 585 2009 2011 22-24 645 .294 .353 .462 .815 *2/3 SFG
Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Play Index Tool Used
Generated 9/20/2011.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Damnit Stanton is great
I would give up the farm for him and then some, just save Kershaw and Kemp.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Dave Cameron is that you?
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by regfairfield on Sep 20, 2011 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Now this is just foolish
I never said it would work ;)
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
But why wouldn't you trade Kemp for Stanton?
by Michael White on Sep 20, 2011 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I would
It would just hurt because of the attachment. I’d get over it once Stanton hit 50 home runs and constantly more than 40, but Kemp’s my most favorite position player since Piazza.
Just think of how this lineup would look with Stanton AND Kemp in it.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
I misunderstood IVdown, I thought he was saying he’d trade anytyhing but Kemp or Kershaw.
by Michael White on Sep 20, 2011 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Honestly the sad part is Kemp wouldn't even get it done
Because even if the Dodgers sent over a few of our top prospects, the Marlins aren’t really close to being able to win and it wouldn’t be worth it for them, even though if it was to say Boston or Texas, they might do it for a better chance to win now (or 2012 as the case may be).
Kershaw for Stanton could be an interesting thing to watch in a year or two.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Mike Trout is a fish and he needs to form a school in Seattle with Mike Carp.
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This is the 2nd time I’ve seen him try to trade Pineda unless it is the same story that appeared in mid-summer.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
he did mention it before
but I don’t think he said what for the previous time.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 20, 2011 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
It would suck for Votto to move from the Reds to Seattle.
The NL Central seem to own the awesome 1st baseman.
Votto
Fielder
Pujols
The West has
Loney
Helton
Guzman
Belt/Huff
Goldschmidt
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Padres still have high hopes for Rizzo don’t they?
Nothing is ever easy.
by drulenarendes on Sep 20, 2011 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Funny if Guzman ends up better then Rizzo or Blanks
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He certainly has so far
Guzman has been awesome.
If I were a Padres fan, I would make a Midnight Cowboy reference every single time Rizzo drew a base on balls.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 20, 2011 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Besides Dustin wasn’t there also a famous rat named Rizzo?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Feel like there’s a lot of revisionist history there to hide that they traded Adrian Gonzalez for Casey Kelly.
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by regfairfield on Sep 20, 2011 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions
It always cracks me up to read other teams/regions thinking about their future
Just like some of the knuckleheads on sports talk radio, these guys don’t write “what if” scenarios about their current players, they write “facts” and explain how these “facts” are indisputable and without argument. Pineda as a top tier starter = FACT! According to McLovin’ on the DP show, Cliff Lee is really the Cy Young candidate to beat, better than Kershaw, better than Halliday = FACT.
To the un-initiated, you can feel like a fool if you disagree with them, but these dudes are just folks with opinions like everyone else. Something we all here at TBLA should be reminded of. A little humility goes a long way.
WHAMMY!
Name That Current Dodger
Ted Kluszewski (974)
High Pockets Kelly (968) *
Joe Adcock (955)
Mike Ivie (947)
Alvin Davis (942)
Chris Chambliss (941)
Steve Garvey (941)
Garret Anderson (939)
Wally Joyner (935)
Jack Burns (933)
Loney.
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by regfairfield on Sep 20, 2011 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, yeah. Would be cool if he could go all Steve Garvey on us. Without, you know, playing for the Padres.
Seems like a lot of those guys hit like Loney until age 24, then got way better and not worse.
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by regfairfield on Sep 20, 2011 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Off the top of my head I remember Ivie and Joyner being early bloomers then meh. Alvin Davis didn’t have a long career but I thought it was consistent.
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Joyner definitely was
and was helped/hurt some by the offensive explosion of ’87 (age 25, second full season): hit 34 HRs that year and never came close to that again. Definitely had a nice career but after that one season, they all looked pretty disappointing by comparison.
Without, you know,playing for the Padres.knocking up about every woman he meets
FTFU
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 20, 2011 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Less inspiring
Richie Zisk (973)
Bill Nicholson (962)
Jacque Jones (956)
Jim Edmonds (956)
Corey Hart (955)
Cliff Floyd (954)
Rondell White (953)
Aubrey Huff (953)
Dmitri Young (952)
Bobby Higginson (952)
You kidding
I’ll take that list
Zisk
Edmonds
Hart
Floyd and White were good players whose injuries crashed production
Young
Higgy
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Higgy crashed hard but damn he was good for a few years.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Looks like Dre would have to just about turn into 2009 Loney to finish with Zisk’s numbers. Dude was gone at age 34.
Big slow white guys didn’t last long back then.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Especially Pirates
Bob Robertson
Richie Hebner
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Zisk and Robertson were finished, but Hebner dug his own grave.
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Edmonds, Hart, Floyd, White, Huff (for the most part) and Young were all at least above average
to great hitters. Who is that?
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Having your boss ask you to give her you goals for 2011 in mid-September is like being asked to predict the MLB division winners in, well, mid-September.
“Celebrating the five-year anniversary of you asking this question.”
by Eric Stephen on Sep 20, 2011 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions
and you've been there all year?
your boss is a lousy boss
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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Losers
Torres CF
Keppinger 2B
Beltran RF
DeRosa 3B
Pill 1B
Cabrera SS
Christian LF
Stewart C
Lincecum P
this has to be the worlds biggest Italian
it ain’t even close…we are not a large people
in the next photo he bites the head off that wee man
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 20, 2011 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Quintin Geldenhuys of Italy: 116kg (18 st 2lb), 2.03m (6 ft 8 in)
Alexander Yanyushkin of Russia: 75kg (11 st 11lb), 1.65m (5 ft 5 in)
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
165 pounds is not noting when you’re as tall as I am.
But holy crap, that other dude is huge.
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Sep 20, 2011 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions
ah, the name is a clincher
He is an Italian by residency, that explains the size
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 20, 2011 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions

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