Dodgers Wednesday Links: Clayton Kershaw Cy Young Edition
by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2011 9:01 AM PDT
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PrintClayton Kershaw made quote an impression on Tuesday night...
- Tony Jackson of ESPN LA has one of 32 votes to decide the National League Cy Young Award, and his top choice is clear: "Let there be no further argument, because the issue has been decided: Kershaw -- the Los Angeles Dodgers left-hander who has morphed over the past year from an occasionally erratic ace-in-waiting to a guy whose future most definitely is now -- should be the 2011 National League Cy Young Award winner."
- Tim Lincecum, sufferer of four losses at the hands of Kershaw, told Andrew Baggarly of the San Jose Mercury News, "I did my job the best I could. He was just better. That's tough to say."
- Kershaw should get extra credit in the Cy Young Award for his answer to what he felt about the Dodgers hurting the Giants' playoff chances, per Dylan Hernandez of the LA Times: "It's a shame."
- Matt Kemp chimed in about Kershaw, per both Hernandez and Jackson. "It was special, man. Twenty-three years old, 20 wins. That's a great accomplishment. We knew what was at stake tonight," Kemp said. "I was thinking about that standing in center field in the eighth inning. If this boy doesn't win the Cy Young, something is definitely wrong. No question about it."
- "I'm in awe of him, honestly," Kershaw said of Kenley Jansen, per Hernandez. "Tonight, you saw his command. Beltran couldn't even get the bat off his shoulder because he couldn't do anything with those pitches. They were right on the black. When it's 96 [mph] and cutting halfway across the plate, it's pretty unbelievable."
- Jon Heyman of Sports Illustrated and MLB Network on Tuesday night chimed in on the award on Twitter: "kershaw staked his claim to cy young tonite. the award should be his. hes been better than halladay, lee and kennedy." No word though on how Kershaw compared to Brad Penny.
- Gabe Lacques at USA Today's Daily Pitch thinks Kershaw will walk away with the award, saying, "Barring an unforeseen shellacking in his final start, the award will be Kershaw's."
- Dave Cameron and Eric Seidman had a discussion about the Cy Young Awards in both leagues, and the use of various statistical metrics.
- Mike Fast at Baseball Prospectus took a stab at quantifying catcher pitcher framing. In case you were wondering, Rod Barajas rates at five runs below average per 120 games caught. Fast on Twitter explained further, "I watched Barajas (who rates poorly) last night, he was doing head drop, and he lost a close strike.
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by G.Scott on Sep 21, 2011 9:04 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I don’t think so because he was just discussing his opinion on the matter. He didn’t say specifically who he was voting for.
Though he was a tad obvious..
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by drulenarendes on Sep 21, 2011 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions
As great as Clayton was for 7 1/3, Jansen just bossing the two best hitters on the team, and the two hottest hitters in all of baseball might have been even more impressive.
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And he did it two different ways. He straight up overpowered Panda and he made Beltran look silly, like a rookie who had never seen big-league pitching. I look forward to next year seeing Jensanity in the 9th on a regular basis. (No offense, Javy)
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Agree completely. You shouldn’t have assigned roles as a principle, but if you’re going to, Jansen should pitch the 9th and Guerra should just be used as a short reliever.
I was pissing my pants when Javy came out for the 9th instead of Jansen after he faced only two hitters and was as fresh as fresh could be.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 21, 2011 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions
One month ago to the day
the Dodgers were 12 games under .500 (57-69)
When Jon Heyman tweeted something incredibly dumb about your favorite player it was the most notable tweet of your life. For him, it was a Tuesday.
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by regfairfield on Sep 21, 2011 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
This links post is filled with links above.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2011 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions
@SI_JonHeyman
Jon Heyman
kershaw may be regressing faster than billingsley. not sure. close competition. #howcanbradpennybebetterthanboth?
I just can’t see his logic, which is what upsets me
by Josie Becker on Sep 21, 2011 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Right he had a rough beginning to 2010 and when you tweet your current thoughts stupid things are said.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 21, 2011 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions
If you are Jon Heyman at least.
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by regfairfield on Sep 21, 2011 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
sure but they aren’t as easily captured as text.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 21, 2011 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
by Josie Becker on Sep 21, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
right, and as part of his standup, no big deal, but on twitter, folk be mad
by Josie Becker on Sep 21, 2011 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions
TBF that seems like it should be offensive, but I’ll be damned if I can figure out why.
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by regfairfield on Sep 21, 2011 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions
because it doesn’t give you any insight. It’s probably only a grandparent, two parents and one child liing in there.
if there’s a child, there must be a violin and or a piano.
by Josie Becker on Sep 21, 2011 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions
it’s vaguely racist and vaguely sexist but it really is neither and is so absurd that it makes it a wonderfully opaque statement. This is why Louis CK is funny as shit.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
I have opaque windows
but they never seemed very funny to me.
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Sure but you can get rid of 99% of that by not overreacting to one bad start.
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by regfairfield on Sep 21, 2011 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
yes, yes that would make it makes sense
by Josie Becker on Sep 21, 2011 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Redoing tweets should always be accompanied by a date so as not to confuse anyone.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 21, 2011 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
At the time of that tweet, Kershaw had just allowed 7 runs while recording 4 outs, and his 2010 season stats were:
6 starts, 1-2, 30.2 IP, 24 walks, 36 strikeouts
by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2011 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Just wanted to ask Nolander if Jerry Sands hit that home run hard enough:)
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he has turned the corner
I hope. 2012 NL West Champion Dodgers, led by Gordon and Sands. Its gonna be great when Etheir returns from his injury and goes back to bashing too.
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yeah, you just have to hope. He’s not there yet as his swing is still way long. You don’t swing through 3 straight belt high 91mph fastballs the at bat after you crushed a homer because you’ve got it figured out.
You do when you hit like vintage Pat Burrell and nothing wrong with that.
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The newest stat they care about is ERA.
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by regfairfield on Sep 21, 2011 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions
If writers haven’t voted on a player deserving of an award because of advanced stats, I don’t thinkthey’ll start now.
by Julio Nievas on Sep 21, 2011 9:18 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I’d say wins are largely ignored, except to discount Ian Kennedy’s 20 win total. If anyone is crazy enough to say that Kennedy gets it because of his wins, then you look at Kershaw, who also has 20 but is better in every other metric.
They now focus on ERA, and I think it will take time for WAR to have effect, because some writers are wary of the whole “margin of error” bit.
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by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 21, 2011 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Anybody notice the look on Beltran's face
after Jansen had 2 strikes on him? Like, “Man, I gotta try to get one of these, but shit…”
If pitch framing can mean the difference of five runs over a season, we really need new umpires.
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I really have yet to find anything earthshattering about that article. Catchers can absolutely affect how a pitch looks. It’s not that they talk umpires into calling balls as strikes, it’s that they allow the umpire to call strikes as strikes without setting up or moving in a way that makes seeing part of the plate more difficult than it should be.
with a totally non-demeaning intent: anyone who finds that article to be revelatory has neither pitched, caught or umpired at a level that has offspeed pitches with sharp break, or pitchers who can locate a fastball.
That pitch framing has an effect: of course. I don’t like it but it is what it is.
That pitch framing can mean the difference of 4 wins (6 if we don’t drop Jose Molina) from best to worst: we really need to do something about this, since in a perfect world pitch framing wouldn’t mean a damn thing but it has just as much value as fielding a middle infield position.
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by regfairfield on Sep 21, 2011 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions
each play a middle infielder gets has a much higher value than every single pitch the catcher receives, especially since catchers receive more pitchers (most nights) than the starting pitcher throws. I think less significance should be put on what the catcher is doing in that study and focus more on umpires not working with a uniform strike zone.
Yeah that’s my main problem here. If umpires not calling the right zone can have that much of an effect on the game, there has to be a change.
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by regfairfield on Sep 21, 2011 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions
This Is A Problem
If these numbers accurately represent catcher performance at getting extra strike calls, catchers have the ability to gain or cost their team a win or two over the course of the season in this department. That would make this skill as important as all the other facets of catcher defense that we are currently able to measure (preventing stolen bases, blocking pitches, and fielding balls) put together.
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by regfairfield on Sep 21, 2011 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions
but preventing stolen bases and blocking pitches are way more dependent on the pitcher than the catcher, so there’s that.
i’m not sure there is any one single measurable catcher metric that is mutually exclusive of everyone else on the field.
This says that they controlled for the pitcher when measuring pitch framing, but I haven’t figured out how they do that yet.
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by regfairfield on Sep 21, 2011 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Here’s how, can’t really dive into this until I get home.
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by regfairfield on Sep 21, 2011 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions
No wait, it can mean the difference of 40 runs. Either that study is incredibly wrong or pitch framing is as important as defense up the middle.
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by regfairfield on Sep 21, 2011 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions
pitch framing is bulshit
umpires are trained over and over to call the strike from the front of the plate. they may look it into the glove but their mind is already made up by the time it hits the glove.
it comes into play more when a catcher sets up on one side of the plate and the pitcher misses his spot to the other side of the plate. The umpire sets up in a place not meant to see the opposite corner, and the catcher has a lot of movement to try to get to it and still show it as a strike. It’s the better catchers that can setup in a spot that doesn’t require as much movement and thus doesn’t make the pitch look further away than it actually was. I imagine that’s where the biggest difference comes.
This is more of an aside comment but I noticed Barajas was expertly and every so subtly
moving his glove down into the zone before the ump knew what happened last night. At least twice that I can recall if not more.
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Yep.
an ultra quick and subtle lowering of the glove. nicely done, rod.
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Dodger Offense is alive
Not sure what the number was before but it could not not have very high but as of Sept 20th, the Dodgers are now right smack in the middle of the NL pack related to offense. with a wRC of 93
fueled by Jim Loney and the outfield.
Jim Loney has a league leading WAR (for 1st baseman) of 1.4 in Sept
His total is 1.7:)
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wOBA for Dodger outfielders in Sept
Sands .446
Kemp .379
Rivera .369
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He’s moving up, now a head of Ryan Howard, Freddie Freeman
In the fastest climb since Humma conquered Mount Hendricks.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 21, 2011 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Loney ranking ahead of Ryan Howard in any reasonable metric, much less WAR, is pretty shocking. Although, I assume that this is dependent upon Loney’s acceptable defense vs. Subwayboy’s statuesque glove.
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My eyes think he’s overrated on defense. He’s smooth, but I wouldn’t rate him better than slightly above-average.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
He came into the league with a sterling defensive reputation from scouts. I’ve seen him fumble far too many easy plays to consider him elite.
no one here is saying he is elite
he is, if even just barely, above average. Thats it.
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There is NO downside!
Either it works and that would be great, or it doesn’t and its hilarious to watch!
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I said that about Marcus Thames :(
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by regfairfield on Sep 21, 2011 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions
James Loney could easily play LF as well as Juan Rivera plays it. And way better then Marcus Thames would have played it.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 21, 2011 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't see why we don't just move him there now.
Let rivera play 1st
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That left fielders suck so bad that moving James to LF automatically makes him an average player:)
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 21, 2011 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions
Sands will be playing 1st
while loney plays left. Duh.
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Andre is in Boston so we could afford Prince:)
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 21, 2011 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Give that man a statie in front of Staples
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Give that man a statue in front of Staples
by Julio Nievas on Sep 21, 2011 9:19 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Someone put together a good gameplan against Lincecum last night, too.
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Fun with neutralized stats
At Baseball-Reference, you can look at each player’s stats, neutralized to a park factor of 100 and a 715 runs per 162 games environment. An explanation of how they arrive at some stats is here.
Here are the 2011 Cy Young candidates, just to give you an idea of how close everyone is:
Halladay: 17-7, 2.50 ERA, 223 IP, 34 BB, 213 K, 1.072 WHIP
Cliff Lee: 17-7, 2.52 ERA, 218 IP, 42 BB, 223 K, 1.083 WHIP
Kershaw: 17-7, 2.53 ERA, 217 IP, 55 BB, 232 K, 1.069 WHIP
They are 1-2-3 in the NL. Only Justin Verlander (19-7, 2.49 ERA) has a lower neutralized ERA.
it really has been crazy how similar they’ve all been this year. I couldn’t imagine a team that had 3 guys capable of pitching like that every night then having Oswalt/Bills still on the team.
What about… 1) Kershaw 2) Halladay 3) Lee 4) Verlander 5) Lincecum?
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Well the Phillies do have that, as Hamels is at 14-8, 2.93 (6th in NL, behind Lincecum and Kennedy). Which explains why they are going to win more than 100 games, which amazingly caps a run starting with an 85-win team then improving their win total every year since.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2011 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Eric could you throw in Hamels just for shit and giggles.
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In the NL
4) Lincecum 15-7 2.82 ERA, 204 IP, 86/209, 1.270
5) Kennedy 15-8 2.86 ERA, 211 IP, 53/190, 1.104
6) Hamels 14-8 2.93 ERA, 200 IP, 42/181, 1.025
7) Vogelsong 11-6, 2.98 ERA, 160 IP, 62/126 1.363
Those are the ones under 3.00 ERA. Verlander, Beckett, and Weaver are the only ones under 3.00 in the AL
by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2011 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Love that Hamels WHIP
Be hard pressed to find three pitchers in recent history as good as those three on the same team.
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good lord his strikeout rate has actually gotten worse
38 percent now. He is going to have to fight real hard to get that down or its gonna gobble up his career. Too soon to say though.
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This is what happens when big league pitchers start making adjustments to Trayvon Robinson.
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by regfairfield on Sep 21, 2011 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions
yeah, and he’ll adjust back. Question, as always, will be can he adjust to the pitchers quickly enough that they haven’t already adjusted to him again.
the problem is he started out with a k rate over 30 percent
and had one that high in the minors. I just can’t get past it, its such a huge… I wanna say albatross but I don’t think that applies.
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yeah, it’ll be interesting to see how he develops. gladly for his sake he’ll get a chance to play (both because the Mariners have nothing to lose and they have to justify giving up Bedard for him) to see if he will get to the level he needs to be to keep playing.
Why would they have to justify giving up Bedard? He was a free agent to be with no compensation, and they got two outfielders for him.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2011 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions
I know Jack Z just got an extension, so it may not apply here, but i feel like acquired prospects get more rope to fail than homegrown prospects because the GM wants to show he got a good deal.
But the team was going nowhere and Bedard is this close to having Rich Harden’s medical record.
Trayvon is found money for the Mariners.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2011 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Yah. Is it wrong of me to think the Mariners and Dodgers both won that trade
and the Sox may be the one loser?
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3.5ish ERA, so he’s been fine. Sox are still killin the trade.
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by regfairfield on Sep 21, 2011 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
okay, not great but decent.
The one (and half) times I saw him he didnt look impressive but i guess numbers overall are okay.
ERA 3.63 WHIP 1.47 BAA .267 BBs 15 Ks 32
1 and 2, 34 IP
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Or "good" I guess I can say. record a little deceiving.
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They get in the postseason by one game, they win the trade based on the garbage that would have had to pitch instead of him.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 21, 2011 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Trayvon has a .368 BABIP and his hitting .229 so I wondered if this was the worst average for someone with over a .365 BABIP.
He’s second worst. Bill Stoneman somehow managed to hit .129 with a .375 BABIP.
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by regfairfield on Sep 21, 2011 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions
How many ABs was this in? Wasn’t Stoneman a pitcher?
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110 PA. Tray is leading all non pitchers but it’s not by as much as I thought.
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by regfairfield on Sep 21, 2011 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions
And Torii Hunter’s favorite GM.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
It was Tony Reagins who signed Hunter for the most lucrative deal ever signed at a Del Taco.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2011 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions
ESPN Baseball Today podcast said last time pitchers were 1-2-3 in WHIP in their league was the 2002 Red Sox:
Pedro 0.923
Lowe 0.974
Wakefield 1.053
Right now Kershaw is 2, breaking up Hamels-Lee-Halladay.
But I know you were talking about overall. Just thought that was interesting.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2011 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions
Phillies starters have a 3.15 xFIP this year.
There are nine pitchers in baseball with a lower xFIP. Three are on the Phillies.
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by regfairfield on Sep 21, 2011 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions
I know this has no shot at happening
But this blog would explode if Roy Halladay won the Cy Young Award AND MVP before Kemp and Kershaw.
Because Halladay leads all of baseball in fWAR. So he’s more deserving of MVP love than Verlander is.
by Michael White on Sep 21, 2011 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions
Probably never happen again. Craig, Joe, and I were plopped right smack in the middle of eight drunken 30 – 45 female school teachers.
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We were entertained in a way that I’m sure none of us have ever been entertained at a game by complete strangers before. I think the highlight was Joe (Joe Torre to them) being asked to do a pole dance in their van:)
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 21, 2011 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
i posted this in the prior thread after being LAT'd
if I did the math right, between from 1963 through 1966 Sandy Koufax threw 1192.2 innings with an ERA of 1.85. WOW, that is some great shit!
For whatever it is worth
ESPN Chats now have both Kemp and Kershaw leading for their awards.
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How much money does Carlos Pena make this offseason?
Does he get a 3 year deal? 3 for 30?
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He got $10 million after hitting .197, so anything is possible.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2011 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Why do you think he gets a 3 year deal? Haven’t looked at the stats lately, but he’s not blowing away his production from last year where he had to settle for a 1 year deal.
by Michael White on Sep 21, 2011 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions
basically he got better
while the rest of the league got worse
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My exact thought but he did jump from
.196 / .325 / .407
to
.229 / .357 / .471
have to think the BA is still going to keep him from getting anymore then another one year deal.
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Heck, from what I heard the Cardinals were only talking one year with Berkman who has been one of the top five hitters in the NL.
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I don't know what he gets
thats why I asked :). I could see him get a 3 year deal at most, maybe, but not sure.
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Kershaw celebrated with some bubbly last night
Nothing is ever easy.
by drulenarendes on Sep 21, 2011 9:41 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
That reminds me of a scene from one of my favorite movies, Kingpin with Randy Quaid and it was not a pleasant scene
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Is that Kenley Jansen in the background? Just like last night; can’t ignore him.
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and a quickly-dressed Manny Mota, I believe
by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2011 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions
I think Jansen deserves a sip of that after bailing Kershaw out in the 8th. Those K’s were HUGE!
Nothing is ever easy.
by drulenarendes on Sep 21, 2011 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions
I was angry at Mattingly for taking Kershaw out after walking Burrell. Not because I didn’t think Kershaw was done, but because a double would mean Kershaw gets the L. Felt like if you were going to do that, you should have taken him out after the first walk and let Jansen face Burrell too.
I didn't really want them to bring him out in the first place
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Kershaw had retired seven straight through the 7th, including three of the last four via strikeout
by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2011 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Nay
Talk like a pirate day was Monday. :)
by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2011 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions
I was going for talk like a british person day
otherwise known as josie’s favorite holiday
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Josie only has a holiday to not talk like a Brit :)
by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2011 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions
No wonder I'm always so confused around here:
That picture doesn’t show up in Firefox (v. 3.6.22). Had to go over to Internet Explorer to see what you were all talking about. Guess I need a newer version … I hate upgrading.
OK, back to the celebration.
by TopDeckTrueBlue on Sep 21, 2011 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions
awesoke bottle
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by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 21, 2011 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Clayton Kershaw
I feel I have not adequately appreciated his greatness until this year. He deserves every accolade that comes his way. Simply amazing.
The most amazing thing of all:
He’s 23.
Nothing is ever easy.
by drulenarendes on Sep 21, 2011 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions
and his walk rate has plummeted, and he basically abandoned his second best pitch for a new one thats just as good if not better
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Sep 21, 2011 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions
the boy’s still got it
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Sep 21, 2011 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Seems like his stance is more hunched over this year too. Makes himself more compact. Maybe so his moving parts don’t all fly open.
pitch selection
I was kinda annoyed with barajas constantly calling for the bounced breaking pitch in the dirt on what seemed like every 1-2 count but I guess you cant argue with results..
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Sep 21, 2011 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions
That did seem to happen an awful lot. I meant to go back through Gameday to check on those, because I think all of those were sliders, but I could be wrong.
Thank God the curve was working though.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2011 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions
I thought it was intentional
kinda like a purpose pitch? I didnt watch the entire game so its sss on my end..
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Sep 21, 2011 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Most likely, yeah.
The Giants were fouling off a ton of pitches too. I’m not sure on the breakdown of pitch types.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2011 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions
They said something to that effect on Dodger Talk last night
So i called in to say I think Kershaw has been appreciated more than any player on the Dodgers since Piazza, and I was going to talk about the 1500+ comments on TBLA which was more than any other game thread I’ve ever seen and how the game yesterday seemed like it was all for Kershaw, everybody was doing what they did to give Kershaw his win. Then as I was waiting I went through the mountain-ish part of the 5 and my call dropped :(
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Final results from ESPN MLB Awards Chat Vote
Kershaw with 73% over Kennedy and Halladay with 10% each (Lee has 7%)
Much closer for MVP, but Kemp still has the majority with 51%, and Braun with 37%
cal. lakers. dodgers. packers. chelsea.
vols. rangers. galaxy.
Eveland goes back to the mound tonight.
No gimmie pitches tonight, Cat. Even to the opposing pitcher.
cal. lakers. dodgers. packers. chelsea.
vols. rangers. galaxy.
Offensive night coming up.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 21, 2011 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions
Last night should have ended the season, like when Wilt Chamberlain scored his 100th point.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2011 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Cat?
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
At this rate Xeifrank is going come back from vacation and find James Loney and Jerry Sands both hitting .290
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Kind of late in the season for such moves
but it seems like Jim Loney’s OPS+ goes up at least one point a game. Now at 108
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Wow, Halladay threw 250 innings last year. Next closest was 235 (Carpenter).
Halladay needs 7.1 IP to get to 235, Lee needs 8.1 IP, Kershaw needs a CG.
I hope Halladay and Lee and up with 229
by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2011 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions
Throw out the knuckleballers like Wood, Niekro
Rk Player IP Year Age G GS CG SHO W L BB SO ERA+ OPS
1 Wilbur Wood 376.2 1972 30 49 49 20 8 24 17 74 193 126 .620
2 Mickey Lolich 376.0 1971 30 45 45 29 4 25 14 92 308 125 .645
3 Wilbur Wood 359.1 1973 31 49 48 21 4 24 20 91 199 116 .693
4 Steve Carlton 346.1 1972 27 41 41 30 8 27 10 87 310 182 .548
5 Gaylord Perry 344.0 1973 34 41 41 29 7 19 19 115 238 118 .681
6 Gaylord Perry 342.2 1972 33 41 40 29 5 24 16 82 234 170 .556
7 Phil Niekro 342.0 1979 40 44 44 23 1 21 20 113 208 120 .691
8 Phil Niekro 334.1 1978 39 44 42 22 4 19 18 102 248 142 .621
9 Wilbur Wood 334.0 1971 29 44 42 22 7 22 13 62 210 189 .568
10 Nolan Ryan 332.2 1974 27 42 41 26 3 22 16 202 367 118 .592
11 Phil Niekro 330.1 1977 38 44 43 20 2 16 20 164 262 111 .712
12 Gaylord Perry 328.2 1970 31 41 41 23 5 23 13 84 214 125 .642
13 Fergie Jenkins 328.1 1974 31 41 41 29 6 25 12 45 225 126 .608
14 Catfish Hunter 328.0 1975 29 39 39 30 7 23 14 83 177 144 .573
15 Mickey Lolich 327.1 1972 31 41 41 23 4 22 14 74 250 127 .635
16 Nolan Ryan 326.0 1973 26 41 39 26 4 21 16 162 383 123 .605
17 Bert Blyleven 325.0 1973 22 40 40 25 9 20 17 67 258 158 .618
18 Fergie Jenkins 325.0 1971 28 39 39 30 3 24 13 37 263 142 .642
Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Play Index Tool Used
Generated 9/21/2011.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 21, 2011 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions
game changed in 1975 as Hunter was the last to get the message.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 21, 2011 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions
LA Times Poll Question: Should Clayton Kershaw win the Cy Young Award
What a stupid poll, obviously he’s going to get around 90% or something.
But check out the pic :)
you’re right, that is the unnecessary half
by G.Scott on Sep 21, 2011 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
can we agree the Trojan fandom has moved into the more annoying? Yesterday’s hat fiasco, now cutting out Kershaw!
by Josie Becker on Sep 21, 2011 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
best quarterback in the history of life : )
by Josie Becker on Sep 21, 2011 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions
I can get behind this thinking :)
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
The hat fiasco needs to be taken in context, in that most of the parties in question (namely, the ones with my last name) would also hate the cardinal and gold LA hat given away a few weeks ago at Dodger Stadium.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2011 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions
FTR – I like my Bruin / Dodger hat and plan to wear it regularly.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 21, 2011 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions
can't hold it in any longer
I just don’t see why they had to bruin a good thing.
God damn it! : )
by Josie Becker on Sep 21, 2011 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions
I had no idea you were a US fan. All of that class you exuded earlier now seems like snobbery.
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I'm pretty agnostic about UCLA these days
But I still hate The Irish
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Me too
and I can’t stand Notre Dame either.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2011 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Sometimes I want to root for the Irish because everyone hates them, but I can’t do it.
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College football hate list:
Stanfurd
Mack Brown
The U
The Entire SEC (except maybe Vandy and Kentucky)
Notre Dame
Nebraska
Florida St.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Arkansas is on the less-offensive side of the most offensive conference in the land.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Twas a stupid movie, pathetic that the man built a career out of it.
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I love the movie.
Kelly, meanwhile, refuses to watch it, even for a second.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
and yet you wont’ watch a dolphin swim without a tail
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as I watch the previews I’m wondering if we can’t cut off our legs and build us interchangeable parts that would work for swimming, running, flying.
Would the heart work less with no lower limbs?
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isn't that why
diabetics get their legs/feet amputated?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 21, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Same here, I liked it better than last year’s (which I also have). The white front this year was a nice touch, kind of mimics the Bruins uniforms.
by TopDeckTrueBlue on Sep 21, 2011 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m with you. I don’t know what these yahoos are talking about.
(Although I don’t hate on either UCLA or USC — My parents went to the former and my wife to the latter. We can all agree that Stanfurd sucks, though.)
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
clearly they’re just jealous cause they didn’t go to the greatest university in the world.
Damn it, damn it, damn it!
by Josie Becker on Sep 21, 2011 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions
you’re not helping your “we are not the most annoying fans” case
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
I’m trying, but they’re just right there!
by Josie Becker on Sep 21, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions
I have always told my friends here….in the imaginary scenario of “If you had to be any college team, except Arkansas, who would you choose” I always pick USC or Michigan
The only surprising part to this comment is that Keith has friends
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 21, 2011 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions
KEITH!!!!!!!!!!!
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 21, 2011 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Attendance only 32,000 last night
Surprised, seemed like more, I had to pay for parking because the street parking was taken and that hasn’t happened all year.
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Huge Doubleheader for Rays today
somehow they have to figure out how to score against the yankee’s. Hughes was pulled somebody named Noesi is pitching.
Cool, as I’m typing this the Rays score two on Jennings home run
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Everyone has pimped out Lawrie and Hosmer this year, but damn Jennings has had a fine 214 at bats. Special to watch.
by Julio Nievas on Sep 21, 2011 10:59 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Fine AL class
Hosmer
Trumbo
Jennings
Lawrie
Pineda
Nova
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 21, 2011 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions
Mariners could have an infield next year of
Carp
Ackley
Seager
Liddi – born in Italy -
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 21, 2011 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Traded for Andre:)
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 21, 2011 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Ogando is still a rookie too, isn’t he?
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Could throw in Walden
Fine class
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 21, 2011 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions
And Moustakas, Crow
Moose is going to give Lawrie a run next year. All Star Crow will be in the KC rotation
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 21, 2011 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Alas. Matt Moore and Mike Trout emerged this year as well, even if their performance is not on par with the guys you mentioned. Also, Jordan Walden.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
True. Although Mike Carp has been pretty good. Seems like something fishy has been going on.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
rolling eyes
but Carp has been good. Alot of talent rolled into the AL in the second half.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 21, 2011 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions
ck has always been unhittable, but the walks would kill him, blowing up his era and whip. now he’s gotten the walks under control while still having nasty stuff. unlike most pitchers i can’t see any things that would worry me with ck. we got a stud.
He makes losing 91 games in 2005 worth it.
Nothing is ever easy.
by drulenarendes on Sep 21, 2011 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions
we almost had luke hochevar too =\
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Sep 21, 2011 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions
ie we would have been stuck with his sorry ass but he did us all a favor and now we have ck
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Sep 21, 2011 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions
Kershaw has to be at the top of active ERA leaders with > 100 games started, right? career 2.88 ERA now.
I missed this earlier
But Kershaw is tops among starters. Among all MLB pitchers with 500 IP:
1) Rivera 2.22
2) K-Rod 2.53
3) Nathan 2.86
4) Kershaw 2.88
5) Lincecum 2.95
6) Josh Johnson 2.98
Everyone else is over 3.00
by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Brett Gardner wOBA .333
James Loney wOBA .325
Who finishes higher?
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If you were in a nasty pennant race, the second best player on your team, and your wife had a baby, would you really skip two games instead of waiting a week and spending the rest of the winter with the family? I know your wife is counting on you but so are the 25 people involved in this race where each ab of Elliot Johnson could mean the difference.
Thousands and thousands and thousands of babies are born without pappa being present and not a one of them ever felt slighted by the fact pappa was not there.
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its tough
but I don’t get why Mike McDougal didn’t take leave
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
because he saw his first one and said JC don’t make me watch again.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 21, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions
I know you have your troll hat on, I really do, but you haven’t gone through this, right? Your opinion is bound to be different.
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
huh?
I’m trolling because I don’t see why Mike McDougal didn’t go see the birth of his child instead of pitching in meaningless games for the Dodgers?
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
He may have been gone for a few days. He didn’t pitch from September 13-16. There is no administrative need to place him on paternity leave with expanded rosters.
Guerrier went on paternity leave on August 31, and Lindblom was brought up a day before rosters expanded.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2011 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Google is of no help here. Whom is the expectant father you are talking about?
by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Liam Hendricks
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by regfairfield on Sep 21, 2011 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Man, if he would go by Tyrus, it would be over.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2011 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions
waiting for a Nigel in baseball
too bad this guy didn’t make it
there was a Nigel Wilson in the 90s tho
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
T.Plush can always legally change his first name.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2011 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Is Kershaw the first Dodger to go 5-0 against the Giants? Did I miss that? Friend on facebook says he is and I want to correct him and the 12 people who agreed with him.
PI says Newcombe in 51.
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by regfairfield on Sep 21, 2011 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
and the last with five wins, before Kershaw
by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2011 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Ah, it didn’t count the games he lost in the results.
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by regfairfield on Sep 21, 2011 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Per our own scribe
Per Mark Simon of ESPN, the last Dodger to beat the Giants five times in one season was Don Newcombe, who was 5-2 for the Brooklyn Dodgers in nine games (eight starts) against the New York Giants in 1951. Newcombe was in line for a sixth win, on October 3, until Russ Hodges made the worst call in baseball history. The last Dodger pitcher to go 5-0 against the Giants was Vic Lombardi in 1946.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 21, 2011 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
I want to make up a bunch of Vic Lombardi quotes as slightly different Vince Lombardi quotes.
“Winning isn’t everything but its something.”
“Winning against the Giants isn’t everything, it’s better”
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
Vince might even have said that one day.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 21, 2011 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions
“Fatigue makes Colin Cowherds of us all.”
by fbihop on Sep 21, 2011 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
First LA Dodger.
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by regfairfield on Sep 21, 2011 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Sound tasty
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 21, 2011 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I actually kind of enjoyed umami burger but G hated it
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
The correct opinion. Unless you have to have tiziki sauce on your burger, you’ll be happier at In N Out.
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by regfairfield on Sep 21, 2011 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, it’s the stuff they put of gyros.
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by regfairfield on Sep 21, 2011 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
one just opened in century city mall
I expect nothing but mayhem during lunchtime on weekdays..
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Sep 21, 2011 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Need one downtown next, making it an option for pre-game for Dodgers and Clippers.
by Michael White on Sep 21, 2011 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I like how this is a subtle push for a Dodger move. :)
by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2011 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions
It was so subtle I totally missed it
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 21, 2011 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions
They just opened up one in Times Square
If I can duck out of work early and beat the tourist throng, I’ll be having lunch there tomorrow
veggie burger there is excellent
get it with bacon
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Sep 21, 2011 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I had a veggie dog once on accident
I could tell there was something wrong with it, but it was still edible.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
1) this comment is hilarious
2) I now for some reason have a song in my head: “Finally, it has happened to me, right in front of my face, and I just cannot hide it….”
by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2011 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Yankee’s are using their 4th pitcher in the 6th inning of a Double header, though they have only given up two runs.
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Just heard that Phil Hughes got scratched with back spasms.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2011 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
they are more comfy
pushing him to go longer then trying to get more out of their bullpen pitchers?
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
right
but if you start him in Game 1 and let him go as long as he can, you’ll know exactly how many pitchers you can use in game 2.
I think it was more that he was slated for game Two and Hughes game one when Hughes couldn’t go and they did not want to mess with CC’s routine since he was already expecting to go in game two.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 21, 2011 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Christy Mathewson called it a pussy scratch
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 21, 2011 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Beckett against World Series pitcher Tommy Hunter
later tonight
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246 hits in 203 IP in 2010
183 hits 233 IP in 2011
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yeah, everything else was stable but he allowed 3 more H/9 last year than the year prior. wonder what the babips look like
sabremetric analysis last winter said he’d bounce back but I didn’t expect a bounceback like this.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 21, 2011 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions
We have a reason to keep Greg Maddux from getting 100% on the first ballot.
Mazzone era Braves were doctoring baseballs.
I’m sure the congressional hearing is right around the corner.
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I'm gonna be honest guys
sometimes, when I can’t think of what to write on one of my blogs, I drink coffee, to stimulate my brain. I know.
by Josie Becker on Sep 21, 2011 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Do the rules of blogging say you can’t do that?
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by regfairfield on Sep 21, 2011 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I drank coffee today
and passed out. Life isn’t fair sometimes.
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
I’m just poking. But I was pretty sure in America you need evidence to try someone, not just anecdotes
by Josie Becker on Sep 21, 2011 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions
even on a blog?
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 21, 2011 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
evidence is anecdotal in nature
discuss
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
I assume that's why
you need motive, witness accounts, and other lawyer things I don’t understand
by Josie Becker on Sep 21, 2011 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Deductive reasoning, upon which our system of justice is based, requires facts. Facts can be anecdotal or universal (I saw X standing there, vs. You can’t be in two places at one time). You deduce by taking true “If p, then q” statements, present “p” as truth, implying “q.” Circumstantial evidence comes from taking “if p, then q” and “if p, then r” and trying to pretend a relationship between “q” and “r.”
Well, it makes sense to me at least.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
right, but what I think Maddz is saying is no evidence is truth, evidence is just evidence and you build a truth around it.
X was doctoring baseballs, but that doesn’t mean x won only because of doctored baseballs or even that doctored baseballs had more than an incremental effect on their ability to win unless you tie it into a greater universal truth about the power of a doctored baseball and I think we have more of a “everyone did it” story regarding doctored baseball than a “doctoring baseballs taints your career” story.
by Josie Becker on Sep 21, 2011 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ve got an anecdote: players killed by spitballs – 1. Players killed by roids – 0.
Checkmate.
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by regfairfield on Sep 21, 2011 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions
so we’re not counting pro wrestlers and football players? : )
by Josie Becker on Sep 21, 2011 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ll let you smart people work it out, I’m only here to enlighten or annoy.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 21, 2011 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Sure, I don’t particularly care about doctoring balls since everyone cheats, just, you know, remember everyone cheats.
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by regfairfield on Sep 21, 2011 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
One of the best quotes ever regarding doctoring baseballs came from Don Sutton, who was once asked if he put a foreign substance on baseballs when he pitched. Sutton said something like, “Last time I checked, Vasoline was made in the USA.”
by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2011 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
God damn that rules.
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by regfairfield on Sep 21, 2011 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I think I’m okay with baseball players cheating like a kid playing stick ball cheats, but not like Baine cheats in his battle with Batman
by Josie Becker on Sep 21, 2011 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I could have also went with Cap. America, but that might have been confusing. Super Soldiers =/= a good thing for baseball
by Josie Becker on Sep 21, 2011 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Ozzie Guillen
being Ozzie Guillen. In addition to admiring his wife’s hotness, Guillen talked about former Dodger reporter Doug Padilla, now in Chicago:
We had this media guy, Padilla. He was eating a cheeseburger during the game. I saw him while I was managing. I grabbed the phone, called the PR department, and said, "Doug, you’re gonna choke on that f***ing cheeseburger." Then I hung up. People wonder, How the f*** did you see him? But I see everything.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2011 12:22 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Ozzie is like 180 degrees from Donny.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 21, 2011 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions
My favorite fact that isn't true
Ozzie Guillen is the only man to be caught by the hidden ball trick three times in his career.
I’ll keep repeating that, even though it’s not true, because it COULD BE true.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Sep 21, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes, but don’t tell anybody.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Sep 21, 2011 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Isn’t that true?
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by regfairfield on Sep 21, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s true that he was caught three times by the hidden ball trick.
Unless I’m mistaken, it’s not true that he’s the ONLY guy to meet such a fate.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Sep 21, 2011 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Come on, who other then a Canseco would fall for that more than once?
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by regfairfield on Sep 21, 2011 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Someone named Jack Martin is tied with three.
My main takeaway is the old timey players were dumb as all hell.
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by regfairfield on Sep 21, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
So with a slight re-phrase, it's actually true:
Ozzie Guillen is the only modern ballplayer to be caught by the hidden ball trick three times.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Sep 21, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions
He sees all
Unless you hide a ball.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Sep 21, 2011 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Corey Wade now in, fifth pitcher still only the two runs from the previous four.
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there’s another pitcher named Corey Wade?
by dodgerpreacher on Sep 21, 2011 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Only the original, been a life saver for the Yankee bullpen.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 21, 2011 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions
the J Martin effect
Troncoso will own next year for the Bombers
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
This be true – Cory Wade
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 21, 2011 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
So much for Kila Ka’aihue* being the Royals (interim) first baseman. He was DFA’d today.
*Yes, I had to cut and paste his name.
Mele Kalikimaka, Eric Hosmer.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
2012 Dodger 1st Baseman
Kila Ka’aihue* and Scott Van Slyke
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 21, 2011 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Ya coulda gone with “that Hawaiian fucker what usta play for the Royals.”
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Sep 21, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m not looking forward to Peralta blowing this game and the Rays season.
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Are we really rooting for the train wreck that is the 2011 BoSox season?
And the answer to my own question is…
Yes, I sorta am. Go Rays!
WHAMMY!
I am still on a Kershaw-related high from last night. I feel bad for tonight’s game, as Eveland v. Vogelsong is bound to be a let down.
Which sucks
Cause I would like nothing better than for the Dodgers to smack Vogelsong around like the whiny-bitch-Giant apologist that he is.
WHAMMY!
All I want tonight is
Kemp Krush
Loney Longball
Sands Smash
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 21, 2011 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Anyone know of some incantations
That can magically turn Vogelsong into Bronson Arroyo? Cause I’d be down for some Voodoo Mamma Juju if you did.
WHAMMY!
Regression
is the only incantations I know
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Sep 21, 2011 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Mitchell Mash
Jamey Jack
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
A Jamey Jack?
Wow, you are optimistic, we might as well ask for Sellers triple, and a Eugenio hit.
WHAMMY!
I’m rooting for Velez Vacancy. And alliteration.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Sorry
I realize I wasn’t following the rules.
Sellers Slam is just as unlikely as a Jamey Jack, and since there is no cute phrasing for a Velez smack, we will just leave that one off the board.
WHAMMY!
don’t talk back
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 21, 2011 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions
As a general practice, I ignore most signatures here, but I have to say I laugh nearly every time I notice yours.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2011 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions
That Whammy guy
did have a sad story including having his home robbed of thousands of dollars of cash.
by bhsportsguy on Sep 21, 2011 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
This is why banks are better than mattresses in most cases.*
*Not for fucking.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2011 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
For a second I thought you had created a signature
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Sep 21, 2011 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
He had Thousands of dollars in cash in his home – stop violin.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Sep 21, 2011 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
he was trying to win one of those turn in a dollar bill serial number games so he cashed out 50K and then he and his wife went out for a few hours and came home, the house was broken into.
by bhsportsguy on Sep 21, 2011 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Wait a minute, who is this Whammy guy anyway?
by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2011 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
he was on that game show with the "Whammy!"
I forget the original name for it. He figured out the pattern of the show, so he won like 100,000 dollars from it
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 21, 2011 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh, the Press Your Luck dude. Yeah, I know about that guy.
Press Your Luck might just be my favorite TV game show of all-time.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2011 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I remember reading up on him, amazing stuff
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Sep 21, 2011 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Now I remember where I’d heard of him, I heard this when it was broadcast.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Sep 21, 2011 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Ha Ha
James Loney has more RBI’s then Arod.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Jim Tracy, managing record.
74-42 in 2009
since then 153-163.
His winning pct in LA was .527, in Colorado it is .525 and trending down.
Am I surprised by this? No, no I am not. Am I ecstatic that the Rockies have been more disappointing than the Dodgers in 2010-2011? Yes, quite so.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2011 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Purple people don’t visit here anymore.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Sep 21, 2011 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Well let's see
Dodger record in 2010-2011 is 157-158.
by bhsportsguy on Sep 21, 2011 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Top of the 8th in NY
Casey Kotchman is on 1st after getting hit by a pitch. Let’s see what the Rays can do.
WHAMMY!
Aaaaannnndddd
They did nothing. Not that I care that much, still thinking about that trainwreck though, and all those sobbing Sox fans.
Also the thought of Stephen King crying bitter tears of bitterness as he pumps out another 1000 pages of horror prose kinda makes me smile.
WHAMMY!
.
I wanted the Red Sox to win simply because the complaining would have been completely unbearable. Then I saw this today:
So I’m all for a complete meltdown.
Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Sep 21, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions
This Today
Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Sep 21, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions
{buying a bird so that I can use this to line the age}
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 21, 2011 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
“This whole issue is a bad idea” by Bill Simmons
Ahahahaha
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
20 years ago
“New York Sucks” by Bill Hicks
by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2011 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I’m just glad we finally have evidence Boston has no class
by Josie Becker on Sep 21, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
some things don't need evidence
and are simply accepted
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
isn’t the accent along common general use of the word “wicked” evidence enough?
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 21, 2011 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Can I also point out
That its interesting that they clearly used the hand of an African American, when everyone knows that Beantown doesn’t acknowledge blacks.
WHAMMY!
Except Len bias
because, he’s dead
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Just landed in Dallas
that was an incredible night at the stadium last night – my throat is hoarse and I imagine BHs hand might still be tender. It would be impossible for me to root with more of my heart than I rooted last night. I love that Kid K and the rest are alright too
as alluded to earlier, no words can describe the pack of drunken cougars that cornered us last night, suffice to say that if I was dusted for fingerprints this morning there would be trouble explaining just how innocent it all really was. It this was a basketball game those ladies would have all fouled out for handchecking. I felt like a loaf of bread being squeezed for freshness…
The loved Phil – called him Kenny Chesney and said he had the lovliest eyes and lips….
classic shit man, had to be there
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 21, 2011 12:58 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
We now need BH to rule on something…
Who gave the hardest five: me or Joe?
by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I only got him good once, after that I started pulling up on the slaps
FWIW, BH was somehow working these ladies into cooking classes and getting wrapped up in full body hugs as we tried to leave
it was really a very strange evening
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 21, 2011 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions
did you kiss your nuckles and say
“hmmm, taste like Nicole’s blood”
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 21, 2011 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Stupid Tampa Bay
You do realize you are playing for your playoff lives don’t you? And more importantly, you are playing so that a bunch of fans who don’t care about you can endlessly mock another team, the Sox. Jeez Joe Madden, where is your heart, where are your priorities?
WHAMMY!
by Champ Kind on Sep 21, 2011 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
But consider this
Sox fans now have to do something they loathe more than bathing. Rooting for NY.
This guy is sickened by that.
WHAMMY!
Yanks Clinch a postseason spot
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 21, 2011 1:28 PM PDT reply actions
Stat padder
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Diamondbacks have four stolen bases and a 3 – 1 lead in the 3rd inning.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Magic number would be two with a win today
by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2011 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions
can I get confirmation on this?
MLBN just said that D2X is against bringing back Broxton next year because of his medical history
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 21, 2011 1:38 PM PDT reply actions
That would his “you ask I don’t tell” medical history?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
reading between the lines
that’s my guess
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 21, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Deceiving headline
Donny merely said it’s a tough decision because of the surgery.
by The Dude Abides on Sep 21, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions
D2X should worry about where he’s gonna be next year first.
Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Sep 21, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
is that
really even in doubt?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 21, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Depends on what happens with ownership.
Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Sep 21, 2011 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I guess
but I think he’ll be back regardless
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 21, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Not after this finish, he’s cemented his stay.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Yep
You can’t swing a dead cat without hitting a writer mentioning how Mattingly still has his players playing hard.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2011 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Based on the Donny comments and Broxton, you’d think Kuo would be in super jeopardy
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Folowed by
“Get that fuckin stiff kitty off of me”
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
If only he did that earlier in the season.
Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Sep 21, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions
once he got some consistency in his lineup, things got a lot better. This is all my memory, so I could be wrong, but once he tried sticking just-off-the-DL Uribe/Blake/Furcal in the lineup….
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness
we traded for rivera
the bullpen stopped being injured and shitty. James Loney went nuts. Gordon started playing better. Sellers played well while gordon was out(not so great after). Rod got healthy and has mashed. Its a lot of things I think.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
you and your PETA-phors.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Where?
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Oh he goes THERE but not to here or DT? Hah.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
You’d love him. He’d take the pressure off of Joey Joe.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
oh that guy
billz hater right? What was his full name?
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
2 run double for Roberts
6-1 D-backs
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 21, 2011 1:44 PM PDT reply actions
and then
2 run single for Hill. 8-1 D-backs
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 21, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Good
because:
(a) fuck the Giants;
(b) Arizona doesn’t get to clinch with a win :)
by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2011 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions
they are having this conversation on MCC right now! /lurk
mostly they don’t want to do it while in AZ, with all the celebration and whatnot
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness
Oh shit, then there is that. It would be cool for the Giants to have the division clinched in their face.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2011 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
This is what we call a win-win.
Just as long as Ian Kennedy doesn’t win this weekend :)
by Eric Stephen on Sep 21, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Win-win-win
In a perfect world. The Dodgers sweep the Giants and eliminate them from the division race. Giants lose the next night in Arizona and are eliminated from postseason contention.
Lose tonight
Win tomorrow, watch the Giants lose in Arizona and the crowd go nuts :)
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
“It’s like an oven in here, literally like an oven. Like God is trying to melt us down and reshape us into better people”
by Josie Becker on Sep 21, 2011 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions
God Dammit - so close to being brilliant
if we had only made the postseason.
Loney leads the league in hitting on May 13th, then tails off so badly he is replaced by Sands after the all-star game. -On Aug 9th, Loney pinch hits a two-run home run to win a game, and is inserted back into the lineup. From Aug 9th until the end of the year Loney hits .329/.393/.521 leading the Dodger to the pennant.
-Furcal does not vest his option, but it works out as Dee Gordon comes up on Aug 12th and along with Loney ignites the Dodger offense.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
This looks familiar
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
It is going to suck having to wait so long for 2012 opening day
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Things have sucked for quite a while now, so what’s a little more sucking?
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Sep 21, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Hillel is kvetching at you from his grave.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
He’s still mad at me for not joining his society at Brandeis.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Sep 21, 2011 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Isn’t the Hillel at Brandeis just Brandeis?
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
You’d think. That’s why I didn’t join — I didn’t need it to meet other Jews.
There is, of course, Hillel at Brandeis, and if you think it’s got a lot of frummy Jews, you’d be right.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Sep 21, 2011 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Starting with openning day
Kershaw has made living in the Bay Area during this dark time so much better. Kudos to you young lefty for improving the quality of life, and continuing to help drop the Giants a peg (or 4).
"I’m back to my first love – the Oakland Raiders and working with the Offensive Line. I’m a Raider for life." -- Steve Wisniewski
New post comes before I am asked to explain the word “frummy.”
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Sep 21, 2011 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions
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