Freely Available Talent: The Bargain Of Juan Rivera
This figures to be an interesting winter for the Dodgers. The team will finish somewhere near a .500 record, but there is some excitement if not an extra sense of accomplishment to it because of their hot finish. The Dodgers are 21-8 since August 22.
We really have no idea what the payroll budget will be for 2012, and it could go a myriad of ways. The Dodgers sold fewer than three million tickets this season for the first time since 2000, and the second time since 1996, and that doesn't count no-shows, which could be as high as 20-30%. The team is still in bankruptcy, and with Frank McCourt still at the helm for the near future, there is good reason to think season ticket sales will plummet for 2012.
Then again, the hearing in Bankruptcy Court in Delaware on October 12 could provide the lifeline McCourt needs, green lighting a lucrative television deal that could fund a winter spending spree. But in truth we don't really know what's in store in building next year's team.
No matter if a team's payroll is $70 million or $120 million, the lifeblood of an organization is finding productive, cheap talent. The most likely source of this is through the draft. Young players make close to nothing in a relative sense in their first three years of MLB service time. The MLB minimum salary is $414,000, and nearly all "zero to three" players make somewhere near this amount. For instance, Clayton Kershaw while turning in one of of the greatest pitching seasons in Dodgers franchise history is making $500,000 this year, because he had two years, 105 days of service time entering this year.
Another way to get bang for the buck is picking up guys off the scrap heap. Usually this someone thought of as a AAAA player, someone who is freely available (free being a relative term, like a waiver transaction fee or a six-figure minor league deal with an invitation to spring training) for some reason or another. Jack Cust is an example of a hitter who gave the A's four mostly productive seasons beginning at age 28 after toiling in the relative obscurity of the minor leagues for five different organizations over a decade.
One such player who has helped fuel the Dodgers' second-half surge is former Angel Juan Rivera, who was designated for assignment by Toronto in July. The Dodgers acquired Rivera for a player to be named later or cash during the All-Star break, and for a pro-rated share of the minimum salary (about $179,000) he has given the Dodgers a line of .294/.354/.438 with 12 doubles and five home runs in 57 games, all while giving the Dodgers offensive production out of left field and first base, something that was missing in the first half of the year.
Rivera leads the National League with 40 RBI since August 1. He has basically been everything Marcus Thames was supposed to be, which is good since Rivera literally took Thames' spot on the roster in July. Rivera is a career .278/.328/.451 hitter, and has fared well against left-handed pitchers, hitting .289/.336/.497 against southpaws.
Rivera is making $5.25 million this season (again, the Dodgers are only paying him a pro-rated share of the minimum salary; Toronto is responsible for the rest) in the final year of a three-year deal originally signed with the Angels. It sounds like the Dodgers want Rivera back for 2012, with his role likely dependent upon just how much the Dodgers have to spend this winter.
Do you think Juan Rivera will be a Dodger in 2012? Do you think Rivera should be a Dodger next year? I wouldn't mind having Rivera back in a reserve role at something like $2 million or so. What say you?
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give me Juan for 2 million
sure
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
by nolander on Sep 23, 2011 1:07 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
yes please
I would like me some Juan for $2M
call it a bargain
or at least fairly priced
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 23, 2011 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions
This.
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No
We’ve seen the best of Juan, let it be and move on.
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by meercatjohn on Sep 23, 2011 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
whispered words of it
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 23, 2011 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t expect him to be this good
but I do expect him to be a fair $2M value
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 23, 2011 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
So long as Mr. Sands gets to start, then i’m all for it.
by Lex in Brooklyn on Sep 23, 2011 1:10 PM PDT reply actions
I've said it before
but I’m very happy Sands and Gordon are giving me some hope to cling to this offseason.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Dear lord, I wish.
KEMvP
"You know Joe, if Keith Jardines last name was Johnson, the nickname 'The Dean of Mean' wouldn't work at all."
WILL (not should) the Dodgers bring back Juan Rivera in 2012?
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either way Sands is the starter
rivera would be the 4th OF with Gwynn the 5th(I hope)
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Platoon partner for Dre and James
I’d even offer an option for a second year, in the form of a contract of 2 yrs/$4m, with the second year being a team option with a $500,000 buyout.
by The Dude Abides on Sep 23, 2011 1:14 PM PDT reply actions
I would be happy with that
and power off the bench will feel new
by Lex in Brooklyn on Sep 23, 2011 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Rivera’s been a great pickup, and appears from the outside to fit in with this club.
But with Ned in charge, you’re dreaming if you think it’ll be $2 million. More likely Ned will channel his inner Uribe and sign him for 2 years and $13.5 million.
yikes
plus Rivera will get calls I bet, from teams like Philly, who need righty power.
by Lex in Brooklyn on Sep 23, 2011 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I can see it now
Ruben Amaro Jr. sits in a room with his buddies next season.
“So then this guy calls me, and I know he’s with Ned, and I say…I say, hah, “Rivera? Oh hell yeah, I am high on that guy…how much, jeez I’d be willing to go as high as $11.2 to $11.5. So then two days later, I shit you not, Dodgers pick up Rivera for $13 Million, can you believe that, oh man what a tool, HA HA HA!”
WHAMMY!
by Champ Kind on Sep 23, 2011 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm thinking of the Ned that signed Orlando Hudson for 1 yr/$5m
Not the Ned that signed Juan Pierre, Juan Uribe, Mark Guerrier, Dioner Navarro, Rod Barajas, Ted Lilly, Jason Schmidt, Luis Gonzalez, Nomar Garciaparra, and Andruw Jones, and bid for Aubrey Huff.
/grasping at straws while crossing my fingers
by The Dude Abides on Sep 23, 2011 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions
there is enough bad without overstating
I thought Andruw was a bargain
and Manny well negotiated
Rod has been a bargain compared to Martin
Lilly will hurt before it is over, but has pitched well
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 23, 2011 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I kind of agree. But I think Ned overpaid for Manny (a bit), and aren’t we only saving $1.75 million with Rod over Russell? (I’m glad we have Rod over Martin, but it isn’t that much of a bargain for very similar stats, per today’s LA Times.)
by KellyStephen on Sep 23, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Hmmm
I didn’t – I hated his declining peripherals from the previous two seasons
Yes he was, but I didn’t mention Manny
You’re right, shouldn’t have included Rod
Lilly’s hurt the team this year compared to what he had done the previous couple years
Hudson was a real bargain, I thought.
by The Dude Abides on Sep 23, 2011 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I’d love that, but if you look at the salary chart on the right the Hudson deal was an anomaly.
$114 million total, $33 million on the DL, $14.7 millioin playing somewhere else, and over $16 million deferred. Only $50 million sitting in the dugout ready to play.
by KellyStephen on Sep 23, 2011 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
In the case of Schmidt
I think it is
by Lex in Brooklyn on Sep 23, 2011 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe the worst signing in Dodger history
Gave a pitcher $47 million over three years after his MRI showed a torn rotator cuff and his average fastball velocity in the previous season dropped significantly over the final weeks.
/Conte’d
by The Dude Abides on Sep 23, 2011 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Hmmm…that would be an interesting discussion, wouldn’t it? So many to choose from!
by KellyStephen on Sep 23, 2011 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree that it’s not all his fault; although you could argue that with Uribe and Blake there was an assumed risk of the DL.
My point is we have less than half of our payroll available to play. That may not be Ned’s “fault”, but it is hiss responsibility and I get extremely frustrated every time I look at that payroll list.
by KellyStephen on Sep 23, 2011 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions
But Blake was overall really healthy over the first two years, and the third year was what got him here.
Rafy, Blake, Uribe, Garland, Padilla – all DL risks based on either prior work or age or MRI’s or body type.
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Re: body type—that’s my biggest fear in even thinking of signing Prince to a 7 year deal.
by KellyStephen on Sep 23, 2011 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Prince
is a lot more athletic than Mo Vaughn ever was
by Lex in Brooklyn on Sep 23, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Yep, but his body type screams early age problems.
by KellyStephen on Sep 23, 2011 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions
But he's vegan!
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my roommate my freshman year
of college was vegan. she managed to find out that all sorts of junk foods are vegan. like oreos, apparently.
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness
Dude eats a shitload of veggies then.
(and i heard he’s no longer a veggie)
by KellyStephen on Sep 23, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Did his dad lose all his veggies to a 5th grader?
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and we all knew Andruw Jones had become a fat ass. why Uribe?
by Lex in Brooklyn on Sep 23, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Padilla was a good low risk/high reward signing that didn’t work out, and I don’t think we are nearly as good in 2008 and 2009 without Raffy or Blake.
Sure but your question is how can you blame Ned for the DL and that is why. When you people to three year deals, you can probably expect some DL time for those guys who are old by the time the deal is up(Blake), DL time for those who have already spent a good amount of time on the DL (Rafy), even one year deals for Padilla (who missed time in the previous year), or a body type like Uribe in his 30’s, or someone like Garland who was passed on by everyone else because of his MRI. So Yes, you can blame Ned for the DL time even though it was the cost of doing business to build a team.
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fair enough, but I think he did a great job going for it in 2008, 2009 and 2010 (even though it didn’t work out because of the Dreinjury, Kemp slump and Manny suspension), and I’m okay if the idea was that 2011 was probably the cost of making a run.
Or Matt Stairs and Rollins having to much
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If Brox would have grown some goddamned facial hair he might have been able to get that fastball by him
by Lex in Brooklyn on Sep 23, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
This seems right up Ned's alley
A decent veteran that Ned can pick up on the cheap (well relatively inexpensive).
However, depending on who you believe, if the Dodgers are trying to figure out a way to finance a deal with Fielder, that could change everything.
WHAMMY!
sneaky fucking russian
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 23, 2011 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree. But that was the fastest I ever hit a link in here.
by KellyStephen on Sep 23, 2011 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Well bowled, sir.
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I wish sometimes
I lived even remotely close to some of these events. Now that I’m working and can actually afford it, we need to do another minor league night in the IE, I’m pretty close to… well, virtually all of the (Southern) Cal league teams.
Money Ball
FYI, my wife and 2 of my daughters went to see it this morning and liked it.
Spoiler alert: A’s don’t win a World Series.
Soylent Green is people
IT’S PEOPLE!!!!
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 23, 2011 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions
hey
she kissed him
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 23, 2011 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
tie nothing
she grabbed his head and planted one on him
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 23, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Not in the George Lucas revised edition. Luke bends her over backwards and shoves his tongue down her throat.
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Sep 23, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Lucas is sexually assaulting our childhood
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 23, 2011 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Seems to me its getting pretty good reviews
The only negative ones seem to be folks irritated with Moneyball in general, not necessarily the movie.
WHAMMY!
I wonder if Joe Morgan will see the movie, since he can’t won’t read the book.
by KellyStephen on Sep 23, 2011 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Are you kidding?
Billy Beane made a movie about himself and made Brad Pitt star as himself, Joe Morgan won’t put up with that type of arrogance.
WHAMMY!
To be more accurate - according to Morgan
Beane adapted a screenplay, from a book he wrote, starring Pitt as the hero (Beane) who single-handedly saved baseball.
WHAMMY!
And forced the producers to cast a schlub in the role as Beane’s #2 to make himself look even better in comparison?
by The Dude Abides on Sep 23, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s why I hang out with my 2 brothers; I always look good!
by KellyStephen on Sep 23, 2011 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
The only shit that Joe Morgan ever did that I gave a fuck about was how he pronounced Eddie Murray’s name.
on that note
it always cracked me up how Jon Miller pronounced Adrian Beltre’s name.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 23, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
He was the first announcer to pronounce it correctly
There’s an accent on the final E.
by The Dude Abides on Sep 23, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions
He's a Giants announcer, so by default he pronounces everything incorrectly.
cal. lakers. dodgers. packers. chelsea.
vols. rangers. galaxy.
by cldpc on Sep 23, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
You're right
Can’t believe I didn’t think of that.
by The Dude Abides on Sep 23, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions
You get first run movies in Arkansas??????
by KellyStephen on Sep 23, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
No creative freedoms with the ending, eh?
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The A’s don’t win it, the A’s don’t win it. Oh my god, the A’s don’t win it!
by Eric Stephen on Sep 23, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah they didnt even win a World Series, so its a movie about something that didnt work, sweet…. But I guess since ive seen Meatballs and Spaceballs, I’ll see Moneyballs too.
its a movie about something that didnt work, sweet
This is why the book was written.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 23, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions
they still made the playoffs
quite a bit didn’t they?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 23, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions
And they still won like 50 games in a row
Which was fun
by Michael White on Sep 23, 2011 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s Moneyball (singular).
I think Moneyballs (plural) is a porn flick.
by KellyStephen on Sep 23, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Jackie Treehorn treats objects like women man
by Lex in Brooklyn on Sep 23, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Moneyballs
main character: Billy Bone
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 23, 2011 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions
haha thats funny man… Who would play the little plump guys character? whats that plump porn guys name again?
"What does she do?" (points)
“You want me to speak?”
“When I point at you, yes.”
“She lets you get to third base.”
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 23, 2011 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Peter Grand
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Weirdly
The veteran player he gets for half price is still David Justice. And the role is actually played by David Justice.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 23, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Because everyone knows that “David” equates to “packing the goods”.
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The two that went are 24 and 22. I remember your pain the joy you are going through with your daughter.
by KellyStephen on Sep 23, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Isn’t 9 all kinds of great compared to 13 -17?
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My daughter had one super-angsty phase for about one semester in HS. The rest of time, she wasn’t too difficult. But nine is really in the sweet spot.
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I teach 4th graders in religious school. They start out cute and likable. Most of them make it all the way through the year without becoming awful people.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Of course. They all have Jewish mothers.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 23, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Actually, they don’t.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
NLTFGITWOAGJ
Never let the facts get in the way of a good joke.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 23, 2011 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Humma’s Law is easier to say
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 23, 2011 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions
That can be Humma’s Second Law.
Humma’s First LAw, of course, is: Anything can happen, but it won’t.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 23, 2011 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Which law is “whatever the Dodgers decide to do with Loney it will be the wrong decision”?
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That is Hollywood Joe’s Maxim.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 23, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Would is surprise anyone if HJ was the founder of Maxim?
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
I believe that Joe has the talent, brains, money, heterosexuality, and connections to found Maxim.
I do not believe he has insufficient taste to found Maxim. As in, too much taste.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 23, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
The ranges change with each kid. All I know is you have some interesting years ahead of you.
I wouldn’t trade them for anything, but let’s just say we had some interesting times while they were coming of age. And remember, i have 3 girls, all within 3 years of age of each other.
by KellyStephen on Sep 23, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Ever get John Sebastioned?
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The music was never as bad as the crap TV shows I had to endure.
by KellyStephen on Sep 23, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ll only be impressed if they were by three different women.
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Hey, I’m not a Bronco running back; or Shawn Kemp.
by KellyStephen on Sep 23, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Hm, I should get that reference but don't...
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
The imdb description makes it sound like the most boring thing ever:
The story of Oakland A’s general manager Billy Beane’s successful attempt to put together a baseball club on a budget by employing computer-generated analysis to draft his players.
Dammit, who put the trashcan by Matt’s locker again?
by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Sep 23, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Fun with Numbers
Last 14 Days
Lowest wOBA belongs to Trayvon Robinson at .151
Highest wOBA belongs to Pablo Sandoval at .620
Beltre is 2nd at .580
Mike Moustakas says don’t forget about me in your 2012 roto auction is at .509
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I could see Tray becoming the Devon White of this generation. Overrated because of early highlights.
by Lex in Brooklyn on Sep 23, 2011 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions
For a while Devon White was the best defensive CF I’d ever seen. As a Dodger he was done but hardly overrated in his career.
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I still remember the Angels had a scorecard on one of their homestands with Devo standing in full uniform in front of a fighter jet with the caption “Secretary of Defense”.
by KellyStephen on Sep 23, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions
With Erstad, Devon White, Pettis, and now Bourjos the Angels have had way to many great defensive center fielders. Hell even Edmunds was there for a while.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
And one of the best catches I ever saw (on TV) was by Fred Lynn when he was in CF for the halos. He and Brian Downing (in LF) were going after a deep fly and downing crashed into the wall ahead of Lynn. Downing had no chance to catch it (he wasn’t a good outfielder), but he hit the wall so hard he pushed it back (the old plywood days at Anaheim Stadium) and Lynn came over the top of him to catch it before hitting the wall himself. That used to be on either the opening or closing video momtage on TWIB
by KellyStephen on Sep 23, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
That catch has gotten a lot of play recently on MLB Network
by Eric Stephen on Sep 23, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I wasnt thinking about defense
but yeah, in that case he wasn’t overrated.
My dad claims Petis to be the best defensive CFer of all time
by Lex in Brooklyn on Sep 23, 2011 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions
I should add, that because Devo had a few years where he was on great teams and scored a lot of runs, he was considered by many to be a good offensive player
by Lex in Brooklyn on Sep 23, 2011 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Rk Player Rfield From To Age G OPS Pos
1 Devon White 65 1985 1990 22-27 612 .683 *89/7D
2 Gary Pettis 56 1982 1987 24-29 584 .651 *8/D79
3 Jim Edmonds 28 1993 1999 23-29 709 .856 *8/739D
4 Peter Bourjos 24 2010 2011 23-24 192 .727 *8
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Generated 9/23/2011.
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The resurgence of James “Prince Albert” Loney has made Tray hindsight-expendable.
by The Dude Abides on Sep 23, 2011 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Eric - thanks for the link to the Vin/Zim story
Freakin’ hilarious. Too bad I didn’t wander into the media dining room at that time. And now I know to time it for around 6:40.
I forgot to put in my preview that Vin was wearing a lightish-to-medium blue jacket. You wouldn’t have gotten that elsewhere.
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yeah
i was cracking up at that.
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by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 23, 2011 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Soooo late to the party
Prediction:
Rivera WILL be part of the Dodgers, but should not.
Question: do we really think that the best deal Rivera will be able to get is a $2 million deal to play a reserve role? I know the dude was released earlier this year, but I gotta think that the same reasons that would encourage the Dodgers to bring him back would encourage some team to hand him a starting job (and more than $2 million, too). And maybe that team is the Dodgers, which is just depressing.
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I will be surprised if Sands isn't the starting LF next year
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Me, too, of course, but I’ve been surprised in my life. This one wouldn’t exactly make my monocle pop off my face.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 23, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions
What about this?
[imagine Christina Hendricks photo here]
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Fortunately, the monocle bounces right off her and directly back into my eye.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 23, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I remember being all excited about Kemp and Ethier starting
only to watch Torre give their time to Juan Pierre
by Lex in Brooklyn on Sep 23, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I won't be surprised if he isn't
I think/hope/pray that Mattingly puts Ethier in LF and Jerry in RF.
by The Dude Abides on Sep 23, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
From ESPN
How rare is it for a player to be this close, this late in the season, to the Triple Crown? Since Yastrzemski won it in 1967, according to the Elias Sports Bureau, Kemp is the only player to date to be within five points of the league leader in batting average (or leading), within one HR of the league leader (or leading), and within one RBI of the league leader (or leading), in the last 15 days of the season, let alone the last week of the season.
And that’s what you call a deep pull.
I’d like to see the SQL statement for that query.
by KellyStephen on Sep 23, 2011 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions
All this Triple Crown frenzy should be nailing down the MVP for him
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
Agreed
Regardless of if he gets the TC or not, he’s getting a ton of attention when it counts, so if he hits like we know he can this weekend, even if Braun and Pujols don’t falter, I think he’s got a decent shot.
WHAMMY!
Unless, y’know, he doesn’t win the triple crown.
I will note that if he can pull it off, he would be the first bison ever to win the triple crown.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 23, 2011 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
No Rivera please
He will be another in a long line of midseason acquisitions who disappoint the following year. We’ve seen his best and it was basically free. Don’t want to pay him.
click the link dude
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by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 23, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Don’t you already know who is going tonight by now?
by Eric Stephen on Sep 23, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Okay, but ain’t no one going who wasn’t already going.
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I thought Magic was in on an NFL team? If he really is interested in Dodgers, wonder if that means NFL isnt happening, or maybe he wants both. Would love to see how Snoop pimps out Dodger Stadium though.
click the link dude
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by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 23, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions
This is like Cal celebrating a win over Presbyterian
by Eric Stephen on Sep 23, 2011 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
I might show up at the bowling alley just to drop a ball on G.Scott’s foot and then leave.
by KellyStephen on Sep 23, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
hahaha
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by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 23, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
You want ScarJo pics?
I can get you ScarJo pics…actually so can you, its called Google image search.
And now there is a local Angelino who’s helping the cause as well.
WHAMMY!
Thankfully, I didn’t click on the link this time. (But I almost did)
And here I had images of them bringing back the bullpen car, Snoop style.
by KellyStephen on Sep 23, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Caddy, spinners, MagicTV network feed and Katt Williams standup on the TVs in the backseat, hotboxed.
Maybe Don Mattingly can wear loc’s in the dugout.
by Lex in Brooklyn on Sep 23, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
All I’m getting from this is: jokes aside, Snoop Dogg really should team up with Magic to buy the Dodgers. Good gosh.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 23, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I would have gone with Snoopy Doopy Poop Dogg.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 23, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions
woah woah waoh, lets not get crazy now… He is one of the greatest rappers/gangbangers of all time man, you gotta respect the game.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 23, 2011 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions
jokes aside, Snoop Dogg really should team up with Magic to buy the Dodgers
Should have been:
Jokes aside, ANYONE should team up with ANYONE to buy the Dodgers.
by KellyStephen on Sep 23, 2011 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Unless it was Trump
Frank, you are a bad business man, you brought this team to its knees, you deserve to be shot, and you are a horrible human being. Yer Fiyahd!
Say, are we still on for golf later?
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Save perhaps
“certain state-owned investment institutions of the People’s Republic of China”
“certain state-owned investment institutions”*
*child labor camps where major league uniforms are sewn
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 23, 2011 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Majestic’s authentic jerseys are made in Easton, PA.
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Hmmm, wonder if that’s where my Easton glove is from?
by jim hitchcock (railway) on Sep 23, 2011 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Cube is one of the richest guys in Hollywood
maybe he can do it. Not sure how the LAPD would feel doing off duty work for the man who penned “Fuck the Police”
by Lex in Brooklyn on Sep 23, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions
No one liked Sting
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Yeah, im not being serious. Cube sold out a long time ago.
by Lex in Brooklyn on Sep 23, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Someone should have told Grant that nobody averages five at-bats per game before he made that chart.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 23, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
All are based on 30 at-bats. It is extremely unlikely the three players will get 30 PA, let alone 30 AB in six games.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 23, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions
K.
Just some “for-fun” scenarios…you know just like…
“Kemp needs a Jerry Sands-like run (16 for 30) over the last eight games to get to a batting average of .332”
Yes, it turns out it is amazingly easier and much more likely to get 30 at-bats in eight games than it is in six games.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 23, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
and that Braun’s BA remains identitical throughout those games? i don’t want to argue, all I did was post a chart that I thought was mildly interesting.
My entire sentence, which you clipped:
Kemp needs a Jerry Sands-like run (16 for 30) over the last eight games to get to a batting average of .332, so he likely needs a slump from both Reyes and Braun to capture the batting title.
The most at-bats Kemp has in any five-game stretch this season is 27, which he has done twice. He is averaging 3.72 AB per game this year, which not only isn’t five per game, it’s not even four.
Jose Reyes is one of 17 qualified players in MLB this season to average at least four AB/game, and he is at 4.29. He did reach 31 at-bats in one five-game stretch, but never had more than 29 in any other five-game stretch.
I enjoyed Grant’s article, and liked the idea of the chart. But the numbers in the chart are mostly useless. I wish he would have used a different number like 25 or less, something much more realistic. He gave us scenarios that have almost no shot of happening, and I think he should have taken an extra step.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 23, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree with you. I saw the article and immediately blanched at the line about 5 AB per game.
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And here’s Grant’s comment on his own chart:
“Obviously, this isn’t and can’t be exact. Braun might get some rest before the playoffs. Reyes’s hamstrings might turn into a liquid and seep out of his pores. But it gives you an idea of how hot or cold the three players would have to get over the next six games, for there to be some shuffling.”
It’s math. And math is a science. The best one, I might add.
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by Hollywood Joe on Sep 23, 2011 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions
after we get rid of all the trash on the bench (brox / kuo / garland / blake / padilla ) and pay for the raises of guys like kemp / kershaw / ethier, by my calculations we have about 5-7 to spend if we’re keeping the payroll at this year’s level. maybe that all goes to resigning kuroda but i don’t see much on the horizon
and this estimate includes going for loney@ 7mil / per.
we have to win the dodger way. kershaw is a dodger style pitcher. home grown. we need to stop spending on middling free agents and lets the rocky growth come from within.
trash?
c’mon dude, let’s not be harsh
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by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 23, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Except that if Kuroda re-signs, it’s likely for the same or less money than he got this year, so it’s a wash.
Unless he takes the attitude, “make it worth my while to come back to the Dodgers next season”. The price might go up a bit.
what else were they? i love kuo ( i have the bat flip saved to my hard drive, most epic thing i’ve ever seen) but he was awful this year. same for brox (granted her was injured). blake and his injured cervix were barely serviceable this year and I don’t see him being more of an upgrade over some players we have in the minors.
my point is if we’re going to suck (as 2012 is being projected) why not suck with our youngsters then overpaid broken down veterans?
I thought this was to the bowling thing again.
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by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 23, 2011 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Sometimes when you bluff, you have to holding the winning cards, and this is the internet, you’ve already forgot I pranked it three times today, not two.
If you are going to finally link to the goods
Why aren’t they pics of ScarJo’s butt?
Just saying, you catch bees with honey, not vinegar.
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by KellyStephen on Sep 23, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Rivera knows how to hit and knows how to play
He’s been the 2nd best hitter on the team since his arrival and has
been a key to the offense turning around. But you’re only willing to pay him
2 million? Really?
The Ghost of Ronnie Belliard rattles it’s chains
by Lex in Brooklyn on Sep 23, 2011 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ghost of Rinnie Belliard
probably still weighs more than Dee Gordon.
Just a quick and dirty look at Juan Rivera’s OPS through the years:
2007: .737 (91 OPS+)
2008: .720 (86)
2009: .810 (111)
2010: .721 (99)
2011: .722 (97)
I think we have a good idea of his production level.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 23, 2011 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions
He had a broken leg there though.. Plus, what is 2 mill compared to what they’ve paid outright failures much more?
$2 million is what I would pay him.
There is no logic behind “well we paid $36 million for Andruw Jones, so why not give $5 million to Juan Rivera?”
by Eric Stephen on Sep 23, 2011 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t think so, but I haven’t really heard.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 23, 2011 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Probably DeJesus:)
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that dude can walk on water he is so good
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 23, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions
there is nothing dirty about that look
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 23, 2011 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm personally less worried about money per se and more worried about what the contract length will b
1 year at $4 mil works better for me than being locked in for 2-3 years when you know he will slide down within a year anyway.
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they were speculating on Dodgers Live last night
that he could get a one year deal with an option.
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by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 23, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions
What is his OPS since coming to the Dodgers
I’m guessing it might be on the higher side, which always tends to skew our view of him.
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Eenteresting....
@BillShaikin
MLB asks bankruptcy court to order sale of #Dodgers, says McCourt’s plan to reorganize by selling TV rights is “dead on arrival.”
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hmmmmmmmmm
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by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 23, 2011 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions
too bad BH is in London, who knows when he’ll be back online
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by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 23, 2011 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah
have fun BH
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by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 23, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions
More
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-mlb-dodgers-20110924,0,3508892.story
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Harsh
“No one will pay the [Dodgers] to broadcast Dodgers games if the club is not part of Major League Baseball,” the filing reads. “Consequently, the [Dodgers’] path in this case is a dead end or worse.”
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Wow, you can hear Bud’s dick land on the desk with that one
thud
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 23, 2011 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Bud plays himself in the Moneyballs movie?
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prior to that
A sale of TV rights now not only would subject the Dodgers to significant damages in a lawsuit from Fox, baseball argued, but could result in MLB discipline up to and including the team’s suspension from the league.
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by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 23, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions
A money quote if there ever was one.
Once again, October 12 = big day
by Eric Stephen on Sep 23, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Yea
Thats when we find out when the hearing is being re-scheduled for!
10/12 is the date for the hearing, not necessarily a decision, right?
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I thought they where not going to do that
seriously thought they where going to let frank keep the team. Hm.
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for sure would sink a Detroit v Brewers affair
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 23, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions
MLB and Bud pulling out all the stops to punch Frank in the gut
I’d pull a Tony the Tiger and say “This is GRRRRRREAT!”
But I got into a little bit of trouble for rooting for Frank’s demise in a previous thread, so I’ll just say, hmmmmm.
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See this is what I am literally praying for
The league asked the judge to act even before the expiration of McCourt’s exclusive window to propose a reorganization plan so the Dodgers could “emerge quickly from bankruptcy under new ownership and with the financial stability necessary to adequately prepare for the 2012 baseball season and beyond.”
WHAMMY!
I know I don't get all the intricacies of the legal maneuvers
But you got the sense that this was Selig’s strategy the whole time, so why did he wait so long to put this out there officially?
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Hate to be near/around/or working next to
McCourt today when he heard this.
I’m guessing he’s not going on this road trip. Then again, does he ever?
WHAMMY!
cue: Kenny Rodgers
“You gotta know when to hold’em”
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 23, 2011 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow, then look at this...
In a separate filing, the league asked that the Dodgers’ bankruptcy attorneys be disqualified because they represent the interests of McCourt rather than those of the team.
Selig going for the jugular. He’s laid out a case where McCourt can’t go for TV money, (cause Fox will sue) he can’t use any of his own money (he doesn’t have any) and if they have to MLB will kick the Dodgers out of the league.
Oh and Frank, your lawyers don’t count either, booyah! MLB laying the hammer down, good lord.
WHAMMY!
MLB’s argument in a nutshell: “Your honor, Mr McCourt can not be trusted to have the Los Angeles Dodgers’ long term interests in mind with his continued ownership of the team.”
Works for me
But McCourt is a fighter, I think he will see this as personal, and he will punish Selig as much as possible to prove his point. Which in turn could damage the Dodgers, scary.
WHAMMY!
Well to be fair
A.) I should have said "But McCourt is a fighter, I think he will sees this as personal
and
B.) Don’t underestimate the blind stupidity of Frank, remember he still believes he can maintain ownership of this team (both from MLB and Jaimie) turn the sinking ship, and leave a “legacy” for his children in Los Angeles. He ain’t smart.
WHAMMY!
Good guys -- could see history tonight
Gordon SS
Sellers 3B
Kemp CF
Sands RF
Oeltjen LF
Mitchell 1B
Federowicz C
Velez 2B
Lilly P
in what way, that someone so bad at his job can still make 1/2 a million?
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no, i dont feel bad about that. i just feel bad that mattingly keeps giving him a chance to snap his “slump” when really he’s just forcing him to continuously embarass himself.
dude is living the dream
I’d hate to be 0 for a zillion or whatever he is
but if you gave me the choice of 0 for a zillion or not being in the bigs….I go 0 for a zillion
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 23, 2011 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions
And the estate of Hal Finney will be watching, as he holds the record for most AB in a season without a hit (35) by a position player.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 23, 2011 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions
I am sure it sucks, and it is frustrating, it would kill me like eating glass
but better than not playing
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 23, 2011 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions
I have to assume the guy would rather go 0-for-100 and be itching for at bat #101 rather than sitting there hoping his name doesn’t get called.
exactly
a hit is always the next swing away
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 23, 2011 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow
Donny going all out now that he’s playing a team that doesn’t matter. Basically Kemp and a bunch of whatever.
by Michael White on Sep 23, 2011 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions
This isn't really surprising or unusual is it?
Totally expected there’d be a lot of different guys playing this weekend.
But yeah, Kemp can prove that he can rake no matter who is in the lineup, and by sheer Bison-itude get some of those guys on base, too. :-)
Er, except for Velez.
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Nah, September lineups over the years have been full of these things.
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I assume Kemp has more than Eugenio too.
by Michael White on Sep 23, 2011 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Big moment for Velez
I have no idea who is pitching but if I was pitching and I saw this lineup I’d be thinking a no hitter with four walks is the way to go here.
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can’t raise your average by walking, and since it’s a meaningless game and both sides know Kemp is chasing the triple crown, unwritten rules/general integrity says pitch to him.
Dude, stop writing what I am writing
look below
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 23, 2011 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions
The dude has the highest walk rate in the rotation, you can’t make someone into something he is not.
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if he sucks and walks him that is slightly different, but even then they won’t pitch him that close, they will challenge him
it is the law of the west
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 23, 2011 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Wade Leblanc
whom Kemp is 2 for 13 career against.
You heard it here
Velez will get his first hit of the year in the 8th inning, which will extend the inning just enough for Kemp to get up in the 9th and homer
Velez becomes a legend
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 23, 2011 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions
I actually have a feeling Velez gets a hit today. Even if a flukey one (well of course it will be flukey)
I don’t need to add that he is “due”. But I feel it coming…
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nobody is going to walk Kemp in the Padre series – if they do, that will be bush to the extreme and a violation of the code
Meaningless game, guy is chasing down a batting title (and more), you don’t take him out of the game
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 23, 2011 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions
They did that in Mr. 3000.
Then again, Kemp is no asshole.
cal. lakers. dodgers. packers. chelsea.
vols. rangers. galaxy.
Actually an enjoyable movie.
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Yes, but the premise is cool
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I think by the end of the movie you will have a slight smile on your face.
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good enough for me
next time it is on….maybe
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 23, 2011 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Haha, I was about to suggest to rent it if it is cheap enough.
cal. lakers. dodgers. packers. chelsea.
vols. rangers. galaxy.
does that even exist anymore?
can you still do that?
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 23, 2011 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Flickster is just a flick away
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Well, I could suggest torrenting it.
But that’s illegal, ya’know.
cal. lakers. dodgers. packers. chelsea.
vols. rangers. galaxy.
Most disappointing movie I have ever seen.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
How is that possible, you would have had to have high expectations for this to be true.
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I did have reasonably high expectations. It was a baseball movie with an amusing premise and a pretty decent trailer. It was botched across the board.
Little Big League and Rookie of the Year were more realistic to me.
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Okay, I had little expectations as I do for every baseball movie, for whatever reason I enjoyed it, possible if I saw it again I’d be in a different mood and not like it.
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The scene in little big league when the general manager tries to convince the kid manager/owner to bunt his clean-up hitter is fantastic.
by Michael White on Sep 23, 2011 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Come on now, that’s not fair. If Little Big League was the bar you set for Mr. 3000 then it never stood a chance! :)
Bad News Bears in Breaking Training was better than Mr. 3000.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
I was just saying I really, really love Little Big League. It’s my #3 favorite baseball movie behind Bull Durham and Field of Dreams.
I don’t think of Field of Dreams as a baseball movie, even though there is obviously baseball in it.
The Sandlot
Bull Durham
For the Love of the Game
The Natural
Pastime
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
I wanted to love "For the Love" more than I did
It had Vin in it, so that automatically bumps it up, and Kelly Preston is hot, but some of those scenes were pretty schmaltzy.
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I hear a lot of buzz for
Eight Men Out and Bang The Drum Slowly though, somehow, I’ve seen neither.
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Really not to be missed. Haven’t read BTDS, but EMO captured the book well.
by jim hitchcock (railway) on Sep 23, 2011 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I will get boooooed off the boards for this one
But I’ll admit to liking a baseball movie that I’m guessing is universally loathed around here.
Fever Pitch
(ducks)
woah woah, was that a bowling ball someone just threw at me, easy guys, easy
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I enjoyed fever pitch
its been a long time since I watched it, and it was really poorly made, but it was funny. Plus Jessica Alba.
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Jessica Alba???
Are we thinking of the same flick? It had Jimmy Fallon and Drew Barrymore, don’t remember Alba’s part.
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Summer Catch had Jessica Biel. Did it have Alba too?
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
I'm all over the place right now
its been so long since either of those two where relevant I mixed them up
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I can top that
The Babe, wherein John Goodman rounds the bases on a popup between home and third.
by jim hitchcock (railway) on Sep 23, 2011 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions
That might be next on my list. I enjoyed it. Baseball + Geometry teacher is a good start to appeal to me.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Wow, people didn't kill me as quickly as I expected
I mean, it did have some typical Farrelly brothers humor.
Why are you shaving my balls?
You don’t want me to shave your balls, I won’t shave your balls.
NO I DONT WANT YOU TO SHAVE MY BALLS, GET OUTTA HERE!
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That X-Files episode with the baseball play alien is great.
Episode’s title is “The Unnatural”. And Vin’s voice is in it!
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ever see tomorrow before mixed in with a touch of right now and a little but of yesterday and a dash of what will never be?
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 23, 2011 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I am half nodding and half booing
His recent streak defies luck
His recent streak defies luck
His recent streak defies luck
Keep saying it, you’ll feel better
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 23, 2011 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions
meh
his season babip is all of .310. .5 war in 55 ABs. Not a bad start.
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he’s hit the ball hard, no doubt. But he’s taking really, really shitty swings to do it and he’s no Vlad/Panda in his approach. he’s trying to take good swings, he’s just not at a point where he can do it aggressively without thinking about it first.
I’ll take shitty swings for homers any day.
by Julio Nievas on Sep 23, 2011 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Just remember
LeBlanc is the lousy lefty
Leubke is the good lefty
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That is the extent of my Padre preview
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Awww, just screw it. Nobody’s listening anyway.
by KellyStephen on Sep 23, 2011 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Nick Hundley
best catcher in baseball no one has heard of?
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Holy Shit
The Padres are doing a Leonard Gary Gabrielson
Entering tonight they have no one on the active roster who has hit at least 10 home runs.
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http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/SDP/2011.shtml
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Matt Kemp's pre-game Tweet to the Pads starting lineup
“Let me show you how it’s done fools!”
WHAMMY!
Dilbeck says those two are still under contract to KABC, so they would be affected. Never mind
by Eric Stephen on Sep 23, 2011 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Wouldn’t they just let them out of the contract, what would be the point?
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Right, I would imagine both will move over to KLAC, but hell, who knows?
by Eric Stephen on Sep 23, 2011 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions
The positive for me is that after I’ve left my station on 790 I won’t say WTF for the first few minutes when I turn on the car.
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At one time KLAC was the only country station in LA, what do they do know in the off hours, are they also talk radio?
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Instead of accidentally listening to conservative talk radio, you’ll listen to just dumb people saying some dumb stuff.
Hooray for non-partisan stupidity over partisan stupidity!
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I might argue that Hartman and the "Loose Cannons"
Get pretty political, and they are REAL REAL stupid. It makes you shudder if you ever agree with them.
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I liked Levine better than Block. Maybe KLAC would bring him back. I like Suchon though.
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I'll want to punch my face in less
when I scroll past that preset and the dodgers aren’t playing!
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YEAH
I get KLAC, I don’t get KABC
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
Well they lost the Lakers
So now they get the Dodgers. Steve Hartman won’t be happy he will have to talk Dodgers, he only wants to yell about things like the RRRRRAAIDAHS and other non-LA stories.
WHAMMY!
As much as I enjoy bashing Hartman,
He does care about how well the dodgers are doing when he has to talk about them when doing sports on channel 5. With that being said the dude is an enema bottle.
Enema bottle, good one
I agree that he cares about them, you can tell, but I feel like he sells out rational discourse for what he perceives will generate “buzz” and “controversy” so as to improve ratings. Also he’s incredibly arrogant, and when he and Vick da Brick just turn to yelling and shouting, it is just the worst.
WHAMMY!
Vic de Brick = Bad Radio
Steve Hartman, best used to loosen bowels.
I guess it is raining on the East Coast
Huge Boston/NYY game postponed
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
Good news, Lackey convinced them to let him pitch Sunday
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
Strasburgh going tonight, must feel like 2nd hand news after that starting debut by Moore yesterday.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
When is Xeifrank due back?
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
People who will stare in awe while Matt Kemp is at the plate
Maybin CF
Bartlett SS
Denorfia RF
Hundley C
Hudson 2B
Cunningham LF
Gonzalez 1B
Parrino 3B
LeBlanc P
Interesting two inning for Morrow
1st Inning
Walk
Strikeout
Strikeout
Walk
Strikeout
2nd Inning
Strikeout
infield hit
Strikeout
Strikeout
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
breaking news
MLB asks court to boot McCourt come october 12.
by lnickerson88 on Sep 23, 2011 4:53 PM PDT via mobile reply actions

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