What Will It Take For Matt Kemp To Win The Batting Title?
Matt Kemp still has a shot at the National League triple crown, but it will take a great closing series against the Arizona Diamondbacks, plus a little help from both Ryan Braun and Jose Reyes for Kemp to win the batting title.
Kemp in his career has hit .304/.335/.500 with seven home runs in 39 career games at Chase Field, where the Dodgers play their final three games of the season. This season, Kemp has hit .292 (seven hits in 24 at-bats) with two home runs in Phoenix. Kemp will face Daniel Hudson, Jarrod Parker (making his major league debut), and Joe Saunders.
Braun and the Brewers end their regular season at home with three games against the Pirates, facing starting pitchers Charlie Morton, Ross Ohlendorf, and the undefeated TBA.
Reyes and the Mets end at home against the Reds, facing Homer Bailey, Bronson Arroyo, and Edinson Volquez.
Heading into Monday, here is the National League batting average leaderboard:
| Player | AB | Hits | AVG |
| Ryan Braun | 556 | 185 | .3327 |
| Jose Reyes | 526 | 174 | .3308 |
| Matt Kemp | 589 | 191 | .3243 |
Here is a look at all the possible batting average outcomes for each of the three players, ranging from one to 15 at-bats over the final three games:
| Matt Kemp Batting Average Possible Outcomes | |||||||||||||||||
| Hits | |||||||||||||||||
| 0 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | ||
| AB | 1 | .3237 | .3254 | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 2 | .3232 | .3249 | .3266 | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | |
| 3 | .3226 | .3243 | .3260 | .3277 | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | |
| 4 | .3221 | .3238 | .3255 | .3272 | .3288 | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | |
| 5 | .3215 | .3232 | .3249 | .3266 | .3283 | .3300 | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | |
| 6 | .3210 | .3227 | .3244 | .3261 | .3277 | .3294 | .3311 | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | |
| 7 | .3205 | .3221 | .3238 | .3255 | .3272 | .3289 | .3305 | .3322 | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | |
| 8 | .3199 | .3216 | .3233 | .3250 | .3266 | .3283 | .3300 | .3317 | .3333 | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | |
| 9 | .3194 | .3211 | .3227 | .3244 | .3261 | .3278 | .3294 | .3311 | .3328 | .3344 | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | |
| 10 | .3189 | .3205 | .3222 | .3239 | .3255 | .3272 | .3289 | .3306 | .3322 | .3339 | .3356 | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | |
| 11 | .3183 | .3200 | .3217 | .3233 | .3250 | .3267 | .3283 | .3300 | .3317 | .3333 | .3350 | .3367 | --- | --- | --- | --- | |
| 12 | .3178 | .3195 | .3211 | .3228 | .3245 | .3261 | .3278 | .3295 | .3311 | .3328 | .3344 | .3361 | .3378 | --- | --- | --- | |
| 13 | .3173 | .3189 | .3206 | .3223 | .3239 | .3256 | .3272 | .3289 | .3306 | .3322 | .3339 | .3355 | .3372 | .3389 | --- | --- | |
| 14 | .3168 | .3184 | .3201 | .3217 | .3234 | .3250 | .3267 | .3284 | .3300 | .3317 | .3333 | .3350 | .3367 | .3383 | .3400 | --- | |
| 15 | .3162 | .3179 | .3195 | .3212 | .3229 | .3245 | .3261 | .3278 | .3295 | .3311 | .3328 | .3344 | .3361 | .3378 | .3394 | .3411 | |
| Ryan Braun Batting Average Possible Outcomes | |||||||||||||||||
| Hits | |||||||||||||||||
| 0 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | ||
| AB | 1 | .3321 | .3339 | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 2 | .3315 | .3333 | .3351 | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | |
| 3 | .3309 | .3327 | .3345 | .3363 | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | |
| 4 | .3304 | .3321 | .3339 | .3357 | .3375 | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | |
| 5 | .3298 | .3316 | .3333 | .3351 | .3369 | .3387 |
--- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | |
| 6 | .3292 | .3310 | .3327 | .3345 | .3363 | .3381 | .3399 | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | |
| 7 | .3286 | .3304 | .3321 | .3339 | .3357 | .3375 | .3393 | .3410 | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | |
| 8 | .3280 | .3298 | .3316 | .3333 | .3351 | .3369 | .3387 | .3404 | .3422 | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | |
| 9 | .3274 | .3292 | .3310 | .3327 | .3345 | .3363 | .3381 | .3398 | .3416 | .3434 | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | |
| 10 | .3269 | .3286 | .3304 | .3322 | .3339 | .3357 | .3375 | .3392 | .3410 | .3428 | .3445 | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | |
| 11 | .3263 | .3280 | .3298 | .3316 | .3333 | .3351 | .3369 | .3386 | .3404 | .3422 | .3439 | .3457 | --- | --- | --- | --- | |
| 12 | .3257 | .3275 | .3292 | .3310 | .3327 | .3345 | .3363 | .3380 | .3398 | .3415 | .3433 | .3451 | .3468 | --- | --- | --- | |
| 13 | .3251 | .3269 | .3286 | .3304 | .3322 | .3339 | .3357 | .3374 | .3392 | .3409 | .3427 | .3445 | .3462 | .3480 | --- | --- | |
| 14 | .3246 | .3263 | .3281 | .3298 | .3316 | .3333 | .3351 | .3368 | .3386 | .3404 | .3421 | .3439 | .3456 | .3474 | .3491 | --- | |
| 15 | .3240 | .3257 | .3275 | .3292 | .3310 | .3327 | .3345 | .3363 | .3380 | .3398 | .3415 | .3433 | .3450 | .3468 | .3485 | .3503 |
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| Jose Reyes Batting Average Possible Outcomes | |||||||||||||||||
| Hits | |||||||||||||||||
| 0 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | ||
| AB | 1 | .3302 | .3321 | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| 2 | .3295 | .3314 | .3333 | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | |
| 3 | .3289 | .3308 | .3327 | .3346 | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | |
| 4 | .3283 | .3302 | .3321 | .3340 | .3358 | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | |
| 5 | .3277 | .3296 | .3315 | .3333 | .3352 | .3371 | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | |
| 6 | .3271 | .3289 | .3308 | .3327 | .3346 | .3365 | .3383 | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | |
| 7 | .3265 | .3283 | .3302 | .3321 | .3340 | .3358 | .3377 | .3396 | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | |
| 8 | .3258 | .3277 | .3296 | .3315 | .3333 | .3352 | .3371 | .3390 | .3408 | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | |
| 9 | .3252 | .3271 | .3290 | .3308 | .3327 | .3346 | .3364 | .3383 | .3402 | .3421 | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | |
| 10 | .3246 | .3265 | .3284 | .3302 | .3321 | .3340 | .3358 | .3377 | .3396 | .3414 | .3433 | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | |
| 11 | .3240 | .3259 | .3277 | .3296 | .3315 | .3333 | .3352 | .3371 | .3389 | .3408 | .3426 | .3445 | --- | --- | --- | --- | |
| 12 | .3234 | .3253 | .3271 | .3290 | .3309 | .3327 | .3346 | .3364 | .3383 | .3401 | .3420 | .3439 | .3457 | --- | --- | --- | |
| 13 | .3228 | .3247 | .3265 | .3284 | .3302 | .3321 | .3340 | .3358 | .3377 | .3395 | .3414 | .3432 | .3451 | .3469 | --- | --- | |
| 14 | .3222 | .3241 | .3259 | .3278 | .3296 | .3315 | .3333 | .3352 | .3370 | .3389 | .3407 | .3426 | .3444 | .3463 | .3481 | --- | |
| 15 | .3216 | .3235 | .3253 | .3272 | .3290 | .3309 | .3327 | .3346 | .3364 | .3383 | .3401 | .3420 | .3438 | .3457 | .3475 | .3494 |
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Time to root for Kemp to finish seven for 12 (.3295), beating out a one-for-nine Braun (.3292) and a three-for-12 Reyes (.3290), while also hitting at least as many home runs over the next three (or four) days as Albert Pujols.
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I love this place
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 26, 2011 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
now this
is analysis!
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 26, 2011 6:57 AM PDT reply actions
I was thinking about this,
But definitely didn’t get to plotting this all out. Thanks!
It definitely will take a bit of luck at this point for this all to work out..
Do you think that Braun will rest before playoffs?
If so then that will mean that Braun will likely hold on to batting title
Depends when they or the D-Backs clinch the number two seed.
Brewers up by one but Arizona has the tiebreaker.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 26, 2011 7:06 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Is there a reason to rest a hitter?
I’d think you’d want to keep them playing. Maybe one day off, but not completely de-activated (IMO)
by Michael White on Sep 26, 2011 7:56 AM PDT up reply actions
undisclosed nagging injuries which everyone sure has a few of – a few days off might feel nice
but if I am stroking well, I agree with you, I don’t want to break the magic
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 26, 2011 7:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Looking at Kemp's swing
Do you think he is more interested in winning the triple crown, or going 40 – 40. I’m sure some would say “both, of course” but the way he is attacking the ball at the plate, I think he really wants to go yard on the ball, and that could hurt his average.
WHAMMY!
I think he is trying to hit the ball hard
I think he always tries to hit the ball hard
Matty doesn’t slap it too much
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 26, 2011 7:56 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm not expecting a slap hit
I am thinking of his swing on some of those strike outs, and they were definitely “big hit” swings.
Stupid Petco, he probably would have had at least 2 more hits, with one of those being a home run, in a smaller park.
Man, why couldn’t we end the season playing the Pirates in Tittsburgh.
WHAMMY!
Almost every contact at the moment is a grand fly ball – which in Petco stayed in and was caught, and also led to a lot of swings and misses. It’s true he always has a lot of those, but at the moment there aren’t any of those sharp, hard-hit line drive singles he usually gets and which help his batting average. He’s hitting more like a typical power hitter rather than the five-tool player he usually is. He’s aiming for a home run every time he swings. He may well get them in Chase, but he’s foregoing the singles and BA to do so.
I saw some hard line drives that went just foul – do those count?
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 26, 2011 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions
Really??? Coming off his torried .600 over a seven game span you have now decided based on your expertise in the batting box that Matt Kemp is now only swinging for home runs during the last three games because he was unable to keep hitting .600?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I recall 1-2 line drive singles in the past 4 days.
And in the last 7 games he’s had 4 doubles. Plus the 3 HRs and 4 singles.
Not sure what you’re saying really.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
because his doubles went high off the wall, he was trying to hit it out rather than “wow, he crushed that”.
I guess... so.... {returns to looking at pic of guy getting hit in crotch with football}
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Not the one yesterday.
Nor the near-double that was foul down the left field line.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 26, 2011 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Given Brewers are facing Pirates pitching, it's gonna be hard for Kemp
but he hits well in AZ. Hopefully he’s not pressing about this but I bet it ends up rather close. Thanks for doing this!
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
I have no idea what an OakHeart is, nor am I interested in finding out, but I hate when journalistic entities allow advertising content posing as articles.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
TBLA has no say but it sure felt weird that SBNation was called a “Journalistic Entity”.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Sep 26, 2011 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
I don’t know how I missed this….cracking me up
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 26, 2011 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions
Of course it was an SBN decision. I still don’t like it.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Feel free to make a $25.00 yearly donation to SbNation so they can change their model from FREE to a pay site if it bothers you so much.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Yes it does, if it was not free you’d all flee like rats on the Titanic.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Probably. But if we’re unhappy with the free service we can still flee and no one will be willing to buy ads on the site. My point is that just because customers aren’t paying doesn’t mean you can ignore them. I guess it’s just my point of view, I’m sure most people don’t care. And it doesn’t bother me enoguh to not come on to the site, but I don’t think I’ve yielded my “right” to complain about it.
Yes, because they click so often on the ad’s they ignore 99.9% of the time.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
advertising that you don’t like wasn’t written for you
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 26, 2011 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions
shockingly the comment sections
only represent a small section of the readership. I wonder how many people even read comments.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
i actually had a full conversation with a friend who reads the site who read the Kemp Triple Crown leaderboards last week but didn’t at all read the comments (and never does). Each their own.
I'd be curious to know how many unique visitors there are each day
Instead of the 50 or so who actually comment.
That probly came off differently than I meant to say it
My comment should have come off tongue in cheek, lol.
Good god you just walked right into the underpants gnome joke.
Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Sep 26, 2011 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions
they are able to sell lucrative advertising and get “funding” because you and thousands of others like you make comments.
They don’t need to get jack from you. Only the thousands of hits and hours and hours of eye balling you provide. Advertisers dig the hits.
These kinds of snide comments are cute and all, but there are other revenue streams they can pursue. I don’t like the advertisement-as-article. If they feel a need to charge consumers, that is a business decision they can make.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
by Nolij on Sep 26, 2011 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yes, I love teachers telling businessman about the different revenue streams they should pursue as thought they have not tried everything they can to make money.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
And businessmen telling teachers how to teach is one of my favorites as well. I don’t believe they have “tried everything,” but even so, I don’t like this particular strategy.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Not at all, but without any context of what SBNation does to create their revenue stream, an outsider has decided they are incompetent at running their business, and thus the customer who gets the product for free has to deal with an ad that they feel is beneath them.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Sep 26, 2011 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Somehow the Internet convinced people attention is a good substitute for money.
Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Sep 26, 2011 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions
what do you mean you want me to put money down on a timeshare? I thought after the one hour presentation, you’d let me go.
by Josie Becker on Sep 26, 2011 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm a teacher
and I’m 100% with Phil on this one. We don’t pay a dime and therefore have no real cause for complaint. JMO.
I am related to a teacher
and feel it is no big deal to provide constructive criticism even when we don’t pay a dime.
I play a teacher on TV, and I remember the LA Times has had a similar reaction when they’ve done similar promotions. Hasn’t stopped then from doing it, of course.
by Josie Becker on Sep 26, 2011 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Last I looked the Journalistic Entity known as the LA Times, charges subscribers for it’s product.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Sep 26, 2011 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions
yes, yes they do…I wasn’t taking a side just trying to add context, or something
by Josie Becker on Sep 26, 2011 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions
I didn't know what it was
Skimmed it, and didn’t even click it. Took a whole 10 seconds to go to the next one.
Since I got bashed for not liking a 30 second ad in an MLB.com video
I’ll say it’s free, we have no reason to complain.
I think that was me
and 30 seconds is longer then it should be probably, depending on how long the actual video you are watching is. Then again you can probably watch that one 30 second add and then watch like, 20 1 minute videos. Its a hard balance to strike.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
i enjoy when the pput the same “thie video brought to you by XXX Corp” before each video. Placement is more frequent and more direct while also less intrusive.
I'm sure their market research tells them
that it is 14.579 percent less effective then the 30 second video
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
After saying it I realize it was dumb to complain about
I think the video I was watching was 15-30 seconds though, so it was just kinda funny.
just like subthreads you don’t want to read, if you don’t like it, feel free to keep on scrollin. I really don’t see the fuss.
I don’t know Gary, it took me about three seconds I’ll never get back in my life to realize it was an ad that I could care less about and continue on to something more interesting.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Like spending time insulting people apparently.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Sorry, I was insulted you felt the need to whine about an ad on a product you get for free that you seem to use quite frequently after Eric had put quite a bit of time into this particular column. So excuse me if I think you are an ungrateful ass.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I’m very grateful for the work that you and eric and everyone else put into this site. i guess i just didn’t think i needed to check my opinions at the door.
I think you hit a sore spot with Phil. Personally, I see no harm in a constructive complaint about an ad or feature on a “free” site. I have sent suggestions to many free sites that I use (including SBN) and they are always very receptive to hear what their customers feedback is, even when I am not giving them any greenbacks. It is not like you were complaining about Eric’s articles and the way he runs the site. If you were doing that then I could see the dogs biting at your heels. But this wasn’t the case.
You don’t know me, do not make excuses for me. I find anyone who whines on a free site about the advertising to be irritating. Especially when it involves a little more then a few seconds to mentally move on from the ad they find offending. Baesball Ref has had ad’s I find troublesome, I pay for their service, I let them know.
These are my thoughts, mine alone and do not reflect managements opinions. If I’ve offended anyone with this opinion, tell my boss how offended you are. You know, the guy who does all this free work because if SbNation ever tried to make real money so they could pay their bloggers you’d all flee as fast as you ever showed up in the first place.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Ya know
I would actually pay to subscribe to the site, but the comments section would probably lose a lot of the people I enjoy talking to, eventually causing me to unsubscribe, and then I would be sad.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
I agree with you
Unless it was like 20 bucks a month or higher, I wouldn’t mind paying the 5-10 a month with the quality of writing and commenting on here. Problem is we would lose a lot of great people who do comment on here.
BP charges 4.99 a month
HQ charges 99.00 a year
Rotowire charges 69.99 a year
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Sep 26, 2011 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions
I actually find your response to it more irritating than the original constructive criticism of the ad.
BB-ref went ad crazy there for a while
Still a great site though, and I don’t even pay for the great stuff.
I didn't even realize it was an ad
and thought you guys got into the alcohol business, and I thought it was great! lol
Noooo my eyes saw an ad for 1.5 seconds I now have awareness of Oakheart.
You need any revenue stream possible for a blog because people sure as hell won’t pay for it.
Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Sep 26, 2011 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
You guys are acting like you’ve never complained about an annoying ad in your life. It doesn’t matter if it’s a 2 minute commercial before a movie or a billboard you can look away from oinstantly, annoying is annoying.
capitalism sucks
everything else sucks worse
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 26, 2011 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions
On something free? Can’t say I have.
Internet entitlement really pisses me off. These guys put in thousands of hours of work on a free service and you flip out when they dare to try to make some kind of profit off of it.
Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Sep 26, 2011 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
again.
i have no problem with ads. just this ad, which i find to be obnoxious.
YES!
I want it free, perfect, defect free, scalable, intuitive, cool, innovative, and not commercial
can I please get that?
thank you, remember FREE
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 26, 2011 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions
especially
after Kenley Jansen breaks them. :)
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 26, 2011 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions
For the record, I am not a fan of the ad as article either (an advertorial, as it were), but I also don’t see it as intrusive.
Your opinion is noted though.
The article is set to second position and will be gone by late tonight.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 26, 2011 9:24 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
magazines are big on advertorial these days too
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 26, 2011 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions
It will be burried when Kemp hits 3 Home Runs tonight and you have 3 articles on Kemp alone by the end of the night :)
Set to second position means it will be the second post on the front page until it is gone, regardless of how many articles we write today.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 26, 2011 9:29 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
All I know, is that I really want some Oakheart now. Sounds delicious!
by Josie Becker on Sep 26, 2011 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions
I really don’t see what the fuss is about. When I saw the OakHart insertion, I immediately knew it was an ad.
My reaction: “Good – advertizing revenue for TBLA = greater likelihood the site will be here for me to enjoy in the future.”
My biggest complaint about the OakHeart thing is that it isn’t funny.
Actually, that is my second biggest complaint. My biggest complaint is that spiced rum sucks.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Sep 26, 2011 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions
My third biggest complaint is that we cannot comment on the post! That is weak — weak, like spiced rum.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Sep 26, 2011 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions
Captain Morgan is girly rum, 35 instead of 45 proof
by Josie Becker on Sep 26, 2011 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions
that’s true, I mean it’s no Malibu Rum : )
by Josie Becker on Sep 26, 2011 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions
outside of tropical climes and white linen suits I have zero use for Rum in all of it’s variations
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 26, 2011 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions
but Rum and Whiskey built this country, you scalawag!
by Josie Becker on Sep 26, 2011 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions
Cigareets and Whiskee and wild, wild women built this country.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Sep 26, 2011 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions
and Rum! There are no temperance songs about demon vodka : )
by Josie Becker on Sep 26, 2011 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions
so did African slaves, native Americans, and Chinese coolies – not to mention the poor and starving of Ireland and Italy
doesn’t mean I want to celebrate them either
and really is was the mills of Lowell, combined with clipper ships for fast trade, and a new class of women workers that starting sucking the wealth out of Europe and into the US
today the clipper ship is the internet, the mills are SW delivered services, we are europe, and asia with smart, young, educated workers (many women!) is the new USA
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 26, 2011 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions
I bet, if you wanted to know, we could find out by alcohol sales records
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 26, 2011 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions
how could you get rum into Nazi Germany? Ze Germans drink their local beer, like Budweiser (semantic pun!)
by Josie Becker on Sep 26, 2011 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions
In Cabaret, they drank rum. Actually, I have no idea if they did. I’ve never seen it.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
I saw Cabaret performed live at Berkeley, good times
by Josie Becker on Sep 26, 2011 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions
Wilkommen, Bienvenue, Welcome.
Mumble, Etranger, Stranger.
Mumble mumble mumble
Je suis enchante
Delighted to see you
Mumble reste stay
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 26, 2011 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
That’s a little sorry, actually. The real Budweiser comes from Budvar in (what was in the 1930s) Czechoslovakia, which the Nazis annexed/overran in 1938. Sure, the beer was probably first brewed by the Germans living in that town (also previously known by the German name of Budweis, hence the name), but it is now/then a Czech national brew.
Sapphire and tonic is the perfect way to cool off on a hot Indian Summer day
by Josie Becker on Sep 26, 2011 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions
When you think about, it's sort of ridiculous
By showing how close Matt Kemp was/is to winning the triple crown, it feels like the default position is that he “must” win the TC to win the MVP, and that if he comes up short, than he therefore loses any shot at the MVP.
Why? Doesn’t this seem like a double standard? Braun doesn’t have to end his run with a 40-40 season, there is no arbitrary number he has to finish with, although I suppose if he loses the Batting Title to Reyes that won’t help. But it feels like because Braun is on the Brewers, it is his MVP to lose.
WHAMMY!
By showing how close Matt Kemp was/is to winning the triple crown, it feels like the default position is that he "must" win the TC to win the MVP, and that if he comes up short, than he therefore loses any shot at the MVP.
Simply not true. I think by now voters have made up their minds, and the Triple Crown is just something to help validate their current viewpoints. Keith Law tweeted yesterday that he thought Kemp was MVP with or without the triple crown.
That's cool to hear
And I wasn’t as clear as I wanted to be, but I don’t think “this board” made the TC the defeault, I was basing this on comments I was hearing over the weekend on MLB Network and Baseball Tonight. Hardly bastions of baseball brilliance, but still.
WHAMMY!
Meh, if you’re watching someone on TV talk about baseball you have to put it in the context of them being entertainers first and genuine baseball minds second. The Triple Crown is more interesting to talk about and is a nice segway into MVP talk.
Honest question
Who are your go-to sources for solid Baseball input and writing? Other than this board that is. Yahoo? SI?
I feel like I am inundated with a lot of sports noise, difficult sometimes to sift out the wheat from the chaff.
WHAMMY!
I like when Yahoo writes pieces about players, and avoid Jeff Passan at every turn. I don’t spend a lot of time reading about baseball and only really care about the Dodgers, so outside of here I trust people with first hand knowledge of minor leaguers for minor league information, and my own eyes for LA Dodgers information.
^5 on the Passan avoidance.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
that was cool
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 26, 2011 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I linked that Newk/Kemp article below
I do like Tim Brown. Passan gets a lot of national exposure, what’s the beef with him?
WHAMMY!
I've liked Jonah Keri for a while
He’s on Grantland now and still appears on FanGraphs.
by Michael White on Sep 26, 2011 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions
no problem – soon
I am feeling good right now
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 26, 2011 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions
I took one off the left elbow yesterday. Swolen and difficult to move this morning, but everything checks out. Game yesterday was rough. 7IP but gave up my first ER of the season followed by 6 more of its closest friends. ERA jumped to 3.15, and my shoulder is a little inflamed for the trouble.
ouch – that blows. Ice, ice and ice
I raked, but ran the team out of two innings by making bad outs at 3rd base. You can be too aggressive it seems. Felt like an ass….
Still I had 2 of the teams 5 hits yesterday and my only out was hit hard too
batting 12 players in the line-up, when the other team is pitching well sucks…only 3ABs from the 3-hole, some of our guys only got 2ABs in a nine inning game
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 26, 2011 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions
For many years Baseball Propsectus was my go to site. Strangely enough when they went to the pay model they stopped being good enough for me to continue. Not because the same writers became less effective but because they seemed to lose all the writers I found interesting.
Most of my analysis that I enjoy reading comes from Baseball HQ which is a pay site for roto players. Also the columns on Rotowire are always good reads.
If Fangraphs did not use WAR as their goto stat, I might be able to deal with them more.
I don’t read anything from ESPN anymore other then Jon.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
i like fangraphs but their content comes in chunks. im just realizing hwo great sbn is outside of tbla. other than that, all i check is dodger thoughts and msti (which ALWAYS has great stuff)
It's weird, I don't really check any other Dodger sites at all
Just here. I feel like if there’s something good enough to read someone will link it in the stories or the comments.
I read DT daily, other places sporadically
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 26, 2011 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions
We might not appreciate this year as much today as we will in ten years when we look back and see the career years that Kemp and Kershaw put together for us in 2011. Even if they continue to be great pitchers, it is doubtful either will top what they have put forth for us.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
agreed. it’d take something otherworldly for them to simply repeat these seasons, let alone top them. Kershaw is probably more likely to repeat than Kemp, but man has it been a fun ride watching them.
I'm not so sure
I agree both have had unbelievable seasons, but Kershaw has improved every single year since his start. The dude looks all time. He may not be able to put up all the exact same numbers (although I still think that is possible) but I expect he will give us a couple of No-No’s and at least have a shot at the vaulted Perfect Game, one of these seasons. Especially because he plays in the NL West, which will give him plenty of opportunities to see the red hot offensive power of the Padres and the Giants.
WHAMMY!
With a season so horrible for so long until August
These two made this team worth watching almost single handedly. I will forever appreciate the elite seasons they have put up here for us this year.
Great article
Todays BA candidates against probable starters:
Matt Kemp v. Daniel Hudson: 2 for 8 (0 HR)
Jose Reyes v. Homer Bailey: 0 for 3
Ryan Braun v. Charlie Morton: 6 for 11
I'm going to send
Hudson a text message and see if he can go easy on Kemp kekek
by Dodgerblue8188 on Sep 26, 2011 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions
weird. alliance couldn’t communicate directly with horde players and apparently kek translated into lol, so I figured you played and were saying lolol.
oh that might have been where i got it from
my friends play WOW and they say kekeke..kinda like a geeky LOL.
by Dodgerblue8188 on Sep 26, 2011 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions
Kekekeke was Korean for LOL so the WoW devs probably threw it in as a joke.
This has been your lesson in nerd history for today.
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by regfairfield on Sep 26, 2011 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions
When Hudson played at ODU
he worked part-time in the summer where I work.
by Dodgerblue8188 on Sep 26, 2011 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions
Man, that Oakheart ad really got us talking. Too bad ads never work.
by G.Scott on Sep 26, 2011 9:15 AM PDT reply actions 3 recs
and smooth
like a nice glass of Bacardi Oakheart ©
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 26, 2011 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions
never had it
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 26, 2011 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions
You drink AMFs, do you even taste the alcohol quality over the wretch that is Blue Curacao? Stuff tastes like bubble gum juice.
If you can taste the blue curacao, you’re using too much blue curacao. It should be used as food coloring with alcohol in it.
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by regfairfield on Sep 26, 2011 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions
In that case you need the curacao is way better than the hangover juice you’re drinking.
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by regfairfield on Sep 26, 2011 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions
That stuff is deliscious!
I had one from Islands with double the Blue Curacao had zero taste of alcohol and just tasted like a blue gatorade. It was perfection. And Idk if you’ve tried an AMF, if they do it right (with normal blue curacao) you will taste the alcohol for sure.
NO
My way is the correct way and I will not rest until everyone follows my way
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 26, 2011 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
I had a dream about you last night, Joe. Don’t worry, it wasn’t that kind of dream.
I dreamt you were in Sudan. The big story in Sudan is that an incarcerated felon had died — he had been convicted of murdering many people. Tried and convicted. Anyway, he’s in jail, and he’s died, and everybody in Sudan is talking about it. You say, “You know, I always thought that in one of my past lives, I was a murderer.” This leads to a heated discussion that ends with your arrest for the murders committed by the incarcerated, and now dead, prisoner — i.e., you are his reincarnated being, and now you must serve out the remainder of his sentence. Your protestations that this is madness fall of deaf ears.
I have no idea what this dream means.
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Sep 26, 2011 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions
I know what it means but I ain’t putting it out on a public forum for your family to see.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Sep 26, 2011 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Just get the meercat to whisper it in my ear.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 26, 2011 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions
that sounds more interesting than 99.5% of the films released in the last 10 years
start writing
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 26, 2011 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions
That girl I told you about texted me that I should try a beer
I’d rather try one with her there, haha.
if you’re ever at that bar again, I’ll try and come out. It just wasn’t happening last week.
FWIW, Jamie neat is AMAZING
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness
Depends on what kind I guess
And if it’s mixed with anything else. Grey Goose is the best tasting alcohol by itself I’ve ever had.
You need to go wine tasting.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 26, 2011 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions
yikes, but in my mid-20’s I was really into Stoli for the same reason. This was before vodka and redbull started dating and the world started to melt…I loved Stoli shaken with ice, maybe now and then I’d pour vermouth in the glass and then dump it out, just leaving the coating.
but, Grey Goose is not the destination, just a stop on the train. There is a wonderful world of tasty beverages for your palate to develop into – wines are a universe and even middling 12 dollar a bottle reds are far more tasty and delicious than grey goose can ever aspire to be
leaving wines, liqueurs are incredibly rich and varied,bitter and sweet. so good
Gin, wonderfully challenging, juniper berry goodness. Gin drinks are better with Gin than they are with Vodka. tastelessness is not a virtue, leave that quality for the teeny boppers in papa’s stash
and finally, Scotch, the water of life. I prefer it, like the Scottish, with either an ice cube or two, or just a few drops of water…opens it up
my advice – push the palate, drink slowly, savor, and you will develop appreciation of the not so obvious, secondary and subtle beauties are for more lasting than the obvious ones, works in drinks, in women, in life
and yes, I still really love Vodka, and will drink it happily on occasion
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 26, 2011 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions
Scotch, the water of life
Aquavit! Oh, gosh, aquavit. I got wholly toasted on the stuff in Scandinavia.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 26, 2011 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions
This. Keep in mind Grey Goose was only invented because there were no high end vodkas and they figured out that if they but vodka in a nice bottle and charged 60 bucks for it, people would buy it as a status symbol.
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by regfairfield on Sep 26, 2011 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
But this is oakheart man, it’s different.
Yeah, Bacardi sucks but it’s cheap and mixes well with sweet things. I don’t like it but I always have it on hand.
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by regfairfield on Sep 26, 2011 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m buying some spite rum tonight.
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by regfairfield on Sep 26, 2011 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Love this article
When a player like Kemp mentors with Davy Lopes and Don Newcombe, magic happens, which is this season.
WHAMMY!
Is related to the Waldo series of games and challenges?
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 26, 2011 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions
It was up it was down
Not too upset about the loss to NO, ecstatic about the bills taking the Pats, and I hate cromartie as much as ever.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
I assumed he was asking about the Angles meltdown
by Michael White on Sep 26, 2011 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions
I've already tucked that one deep deep down
hopefully it won’t come back as an ulcer in 15 years
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
The Angels closer is not Nolanders guy.
Blown 3 run lead in the 9th.
by Michael White on Sep 26, 2011 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions
its the 2nd time the bullpen lost them a game this week
that reagins did nothing to strengthen their obviously weak bullpen at the trade deadline makes me a sad panda.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
The price was very high for the good relief pitchers. I’d hate to have seen the Angels pay the price the Rangers did for Adams.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Sep 26, 2011 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions
He should learn from Ned, cannot have too many bullpen vets in a pennant race
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 26, 2011 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions
I am so happy we live in a society that gifs every single time an athlete gets hit in the testicles.
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by regfairfield on Sep 26, 2011 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions
oh he gets hit in the nuts there?
I just wanted to highlight the brilliant heads up play by the center. /snigger
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
we used to have to wait for America’s Funniest Home Videos to come on : )
by Josie Becker on Sep 26, 2011 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions
football
in the groin
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 26, 2011 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions
because the center was snapping the ball to catch the guy offsides
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
but the ball
his groin…
IT WORKS ON SO MANY LEVELS!!!
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 26, 2011 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Question you would appreciate
Who makes more in their career, Kershaw or Stafford?
by Michael White on Sep 26, 2011 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Stafford already got that crazy rookie contract. If he stays healthy enough to get another one (and he’s as good as SW thinks he is) that’s got to be more than Kershaw will make. He’d be pushing $200MM at that point.
by Michael White on Sep 26, 2011 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions
41.7 guarenteed
could be worth 80 when all is said and done. Yeah.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Hard to say
Stafford already got a near 50 mill contract, Kershaw hasn’t made anything yet really. The next 10 years Kershaw might make more, but Stafford could make more overall.
On an unrelated note,
I think I just changed my AL MVP vote to Ellsbury after last night. Dude is money. (Yes, be happy I’m not actually given a vote.) Joey Bats is awesoke, but I’ve decided Granderson isn’t my guy. That whole lineup hits homers. I guess Cabrera would be the “safe” pick.
Cabrerra, the safe pick nobody is talking about. I think Keith Law said it on Twitter last night, Cabrerra doesn’t win MVPs because he’s this awesome every year.
by Michael White on Sep 26, 2011 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Tigers should sweep the awards, Miggy is why I thought it was silly there was any Verlander MVP talk.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 26, 2011 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions
When asked who he would vote for with an AL MVP vote, Verlander could have started a groundswell if he had said his teammate Cabrera instead of himself.
Joey Bats is still better.
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by regfairfield on Sep 26, 2011 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions
Did he really? if so what a dick
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 26, 2011 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions
It
“If I get a vote, me,” he told Yahoo! Sports on Tuesday. “Yeah. Who wouldn’t [spend it on himself]? It’s not like I would just vote for anybody. But, yeah, if pitchers are eligible, and they clearly are, I would say I’m worthy of it. I wouldn’t say I should win it over others. I haven’t really delved into those numbers. So if I had a vote, I’d have to do my homework, but I wouldn’t discount my season.”
Yuck
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 26, 2011 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions
yes, but also delightfully un-polished
nice not to hear the coached answer sometimes, even if it be ugly
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 26, 2011 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions
He's been so consistently great
That people forget about him or they expect it so they put more expectations on him to do better to win awards.
Ellsbury is the best overall player in the AL
It’s hard not to give him the MVP at this point, even over Bautista. Personally, I like bautista better as the MVP candidate, but Ellsbury is a great vote as well.
Ostensibly this is about soccer but seems rather relevant.
@GrantWahl MLS followers get too caught up in semantics of “Most Valuable Player.” Just call it Player of the Year and give it to the most deserving.
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They wouldn’t have created the Hank Aaron award if they didn’t feel that MVP was different then the best hitter.
This coveted honor is awarded annually to the best overall offensive performer in both the American League and National League. Originally introduced in 1999 to honor the 25th anniversary of Hank Aaron breaking Babe Ruth’s all-time home run record, the Hank Aaron Award was the first major award to be introduced in 30 years.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 26, 2011 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions
defense counts
even if there is not good way to count it
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 26, 2011 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions
You’d be hard pressed to find me a MVP based on his defense other then Brooks Robinson way back in 64 unless it was Zoilo Versalles the following year.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 26, 2011 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions
Yep. And Ryan Howard’s mantel also would argue that nobody cares about defense in MVP voting.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
http://www.baseball-reference.com/awards/mvp_cya.shtml
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 26, 2011 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions
I don’t see any.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Sep 26, 2011 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions
Maybe Don Baylor 79
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 26, 2011 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions
Have any DHs deserved the MVP?
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
John Valentin was almost a full WAR point over him and finished 9th. Wow.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
One of the great fluke seasons of all time.
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by regfairfield on Sep 26, 2011 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions
Maybe but I think it is more a reflection that the writers realize that DH are 1/2 a player.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 26, 2011 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Nellie Fox in 59 had to have been inspired by his defense. Those writers are all dead but from 59 – 65 it looks like defense mattered a lot.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 26, 2011 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Hell, Brooks Robinson was 1, 2 , or 3 from 64 – 66 and while he had his best years they were the best offensive seasons of the time.
Interesting how defense mattered so much doing that period of 59 – 66 then kind of went bye bye.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 26, 2011 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions
I don’t think defense is taken into account as a ranking/rating scale, but “has to play defense” is on the checklist as well as “doesn’t kill his team by playing defense”
My guess is that defense is taken into account as is position difficulty. Just not on the scale that some would consider to be significant.
You’d think so, but since Chase still does not have an MVP and Ryan does, I’m not sure that is happening.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 26, 2011 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions
I am saying, if the award is “best player” you cannot have a real discussion unless you consider defense. It counts, it matters
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 26, 2011 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions
And thus if it comes down to Kemp vs Braun, and defense is included in the discussion
Kemp wins that, too. Period.
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He and Alexi Lalas are having an illuminating discussion
-At least it eliminates tedious arguments about the term “valuable.”
Then what would your “Player of the Year” criteria be?
-Simple: Who was the best player in the league this year? Doesn’t punish you for having a teammate or two who had great years.
Matt Kemp of course had the opposite problem
by Josie Becker on Sep 26, 2011 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Btw Eric, great column
As usual.
I know it’s not easy to do, but a few multi hit games and HGT I’m sure :)
What the HELL? This is rather... unusual.
RT @Rotoworld_BB: Red Sox trying to trade for Wednesday starter http://dlvr.it/n7dh9
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but whom?
WHOM!!!!!??
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 26, 2011 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions
They could do worse
Like by starting whoever they have instead of trading for Lilly
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 26, 2011 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions
they have money
we need money. They need pitching, we have pitching. Its a match made in heaven!
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
until next year
when we need pitching
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 26, 2011 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Right
as much as I still dislike Ted Lilly as a Dodger, having to fill three rotation spots and acquiring offensive production seems to be a mountain to climb.
I expect ted lilly to bounce back
but we can still probably sign someone for 10 million who will do as good or better then lilly
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
I continue to argue that as 4th starters go, Lilly has been far better than he seems to get credit for
I have no great need to dump him and end up with yet another hole in the rotation next year (esp with no guarantee they can re-sign Kuroda).
That said… if BoSox were so desperate they’d trade quite a bit for him, I wouldn’t turn that down.
But sounds like they more want someone who can fill in now just temporarily and not cost a ton in return.
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The other trouble is that if Kuroda doesn’t re-sign, Lilly has to perform like a third starter, because I don’t believe they’ll be able to afford someone who can perform like Kuroda at the price they paid Kuroda this year.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 26, 2011 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions
yeah and as a #3 starter he doesn't look as good (though I still maintain
he’s been more solid than some here seem to think)… but yeah it’s a problem, especially with Rubby now out all or at least most of next season.
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if we are filling 3 spots
that means kuroda didn’t resign, so without him and lilly that makes it almost 30 million to spend on pitching(including padilla and garlands salaries). I think we can get 3 pitchers for 30 million.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
I said three spots because, even if we fill Kuroda’s spot with Kuroda, it’s still a spot that needs filled.
right
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 26, 2011 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions
yeah
but he gets around 10 million or so, or he doesn’t and we sign 2 pitchers and hten give it to eo/nri/whoever, and spend the savings on hitting.
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we just freed up 10 million!
we can get, like, 2 pitchers!
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
“desperate”
the world you are looking for is desperate
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 26, 2011 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Indeed this is amazing, last week they wanted Capuano, wonder who else may slipped through waivers to them. Honestly if they had traded for Ted Lilly back at the deadline they would have already clinched even if they gave us nothing back but salary relief.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 26, 2011 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions
They got rebuffed in a trade proposal last week, but for the life of me I can’t remember the starter in question.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 26, 2011 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Capuano
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 26, 2011 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions
no prob
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 26, 2011 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions
You think we get a King’s Ransom by sending them Eovaldi?
by silverwidow on Sep 26, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Also, is it too crass and crude to say, rather simply, Fuck trying to help the Red Sox. ?
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I’m OK with helping them if it helps the Dodgers.
What Nolander said.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 26, 2011 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions
yes and yes
I guess I just see more scenarios where Dodgers (or Team X) help them and get little in return.
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Speaking of late non-postseason-eligible trades
The D-Backs traded for a reliever for this past weekend, and it spawned a cool look back from Tyler Kepner in the NY Times:
So it was in 1987, when the Detroit Tigers waged a fierce battle with the Toronto Blue Jays for the American League East title. The Tigers trailed by a half-game on Sept. 22 when they acquired reliever Dickie Noles from the Chicago Cubs for a player to be named later.
"Sparky Anderson had said once that the only reason Dickie Noles was in the big leagues is because he throws at people," said Noles, now the employee-assistance professional for the Phillies, referring to the Tigers’ manager. "Then I go there on Sept. 22, we’re playing the Red Sox at Fenway Park, and he brings me in in the ninth inning to get the save."
Noles collected one more save in four games, helping the Tigers win the division. A month later, he was shipped back to Cubs General Manager Dallas Green – as the player to be named later in the deal. Essentially, then, Noles was traded for himself.
I love stuff like this.
Smacks of collusion.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 26, 2011 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions
That makes two awesomely memorable trades for the 1987 Tigers
One was getting Dickie Noles for himself. The other was the greatest short-term vs. long-term deadline deal I can think of.
Tigers got Doyle Alexander from the Braves, and he proceeded to go 9-0 with a 1.53 ERA in 11 starts (Detroit won all 11 of those starts), including winning the opening game of the season-ending three-game sweep of the Blue Jays, a weekend series in Detroit which began with Toronto up by one game in the AL East with three to play.
The Braves got some Michigan kid named John Smoltz.
Of course, the playoffs didn’t work out so well for Alexander, as he got shelled in two starts (10.00 ERA) in a 4-1 ALCS loss to the Twins, but they wouldn’t have made the playoffs without Alexander.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 26, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Can I be happy
If he gets nine hits with three homers. He may not win the triple crown, but he would be 40/40 with 200 hits.
I love working on a Saturday, all the users are gone and I can get so much done.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 26, 2011 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions
how were the shrooms?
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 26, 2011 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
LOL
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 26, 2011 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions
he gave up 3 runs
2 were earned. I think he was cruising until the 5th. I really didn’t see it either.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 26, 2011 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions
it is a concern
but I’m hoping for a bounce back year in 2012
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 26, 2011 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Didn’t see it but he was facing a very bad lineup in a pitching park.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 26, 2011 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions
He was okay until the 5th
Seemed better overall than he had been in awhile, but yeah, it was the Padres. Not sure why he just has not had the stamina this season. That’s gotta be fixed.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
I think the biggest concern with Bills
Was that, despite pitching to a very crappy line up, he was on the axis of grooving fastballs or missing the corner trying to be too fine…especially being too fine to the 8 hitter OPSing .540.
this vendor of mine is just all over me this morning
like i am supposed to have answers exactly why Chad is bad because he is “my guy” but it seems he was pretty 2011 normal in the start. so trying to figure out the big deal.
Everything went South in 2011. I’ll be doing a post soon. He could bounce back or we may have seen the best of him but overall he struggled in 2011 with control and dominance compared to his historical norms.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 26, 2011 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
I think it more likely Matt hits 40 home runs then wins the batting crown. How do you place the odds Mr Xeifrank?
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same here
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 26, 2011 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions
I agree. Both odds would be high enough that I couldn’t give you a number I’d be confident with. If forced to take a swag. :) I’d go with something like…
Odds to win batting title: 200:1
Odds to hit 40 or more HRs: 20:1
Matt Kemp
Hit three home runs in two different series this year, both on the road.
He hit three in a three game series @CIncinnati and in a four game series @Colorado.
The most hits he had in a three game span
Was 8. In the recently completed San Francisco series at home. He did 7 a couple times.
But yes, I like the 12-14, 8 HR. Book it.
If you look at his game logs he has hit three HRs over a three game span three times. And that is using overlapping spans of games to get an extra time out of Cincy (0-2-1 and 2-1-0) along with his 9/21-9/22-9/23 HR games. He’s played 158 games, which gives us a sample size of 156. 3 out of 156 is 52:1 odds or a 1.92% chance. So that is what the empirical data tells us. From there adjust for park, pitchers and motivation.
Jarrod Parker is going to be like WTF after Kemp shows him how far a major league MVP can hit the ball in the desert.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 26, 2011 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions
When was the last time a pitcher won the pitchers triple crown?
I’m sure it is more recent than I can remember, but I can’t think of who has done it lately…
they messed up
they should have waited for about 10 years and THEN let everyone know they changed the logo back in 2012
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 26, 2011 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions
As far as we can tell this it the first adjustment of the Dodgers primary logo since their move to Los Angeles from Brooklyn in 1958, that leading tail on the ‘o’ had been around in one-form-or-another since the 1930s.
That is some continuity. It’s cleaner now. Don’t think this affects the uniform script though, so HJ’s uniforms aren’t obsolete
by Josie Becker on Sep 26, 2011 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Whew!
and I like the little tail from the D to the o
I have been doodling that logo for as long as I can remember
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 26, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions
My guess is one of the McC kids did it to justify their 600K income.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
I believe this was done by an actual, real-life graphic designer. The logo looks better.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 26, 2011 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Ted Lilly 2010 vs 2011
fip: 4.27:4.27
x-fip: 3.95:4.02
sierra: 3.83:3.72.
Era+: 110:90
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
let’s not forget his elbow and neck problems. While he never went on the DL, i’m sure pitching through discomfort wasn’t easy when you have to be as fine as Lilly.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 26, 2011 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Lilly did just fine in 2011, the problem is paying him $12,000,000 in 2012 and 13,500,000 in 2013. If you can get rid of that, you do it ASAP.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 26, 2011 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions
He is only getting older
so the injuries are likely to stick around, or to bring over friends, so yeah, thats a lot of money in year 2 and 3.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
I agree, but am scared of who would replace him. It’d have to be via trade because the free agent market doesn’t offer anything that would seem to be similar pitching for less money or years than a 2/25.5 deal.
you think so?
I think he’ll get 100M
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 26, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
No way
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 26, 2011 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
thats around where I would guess
if burnett could get that…
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
/Things we’ll be hearing regardless if Ted throws seven innings of shutout ball and gives up one home run in the 3rd.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 26, 2011 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions
James Loney’s current season numbers look oddly similar to Carl Yasztremski’s age 43 and final season. .767 OPS, 10 homers, etc. Loney K’s more though.
[insert breaking news sound]
James Loney should retire. Film at 11.
:)
by Eric Stephen on Sep 26, 2011 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
The Pittsburgh Pirates say: win or it won’t draw. The San Francisco Giants say: worked for us
by Josie Becker on Sep 26, 2011 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions
The pirates still might be making more money off luxury boxes and whatnot
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oh I’m sure they’re making more buck than they did in Three Rivers, but the question was draw, not money. You changed the question. Question changer!
by Josie Becker on Sep 26, 2011 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions
They will draw three licks, and end up in the center (of the NL East).
by Eric Stephen on Sep 26, 2011 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions
If they sign Pujols or Fielder they will:)
I’ve heard rumblings they will spend money this winter, I’ll believe it when I see it.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 26, 2011 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions
extend stanton
make another big splash, make money money
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Mike Stanton should demand a trade so he doesn’t have to wear that bugly cap.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 26, 2011 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions
It would be a win if they could turn those ugly logos and color schemes into something as memorable as the 70s Astros Unis.
As a kid, I always loved the Astros unis, because they were the only road team not to wear grey.
were you a kid during the blue roads phase?
by Josie Becker on Sep 26, 2011 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions
When do the wearers of that cap play the Lookouts?
by Eric Stephen on Sep 26, 2011 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m sure prototypes have been made, but until we see it on Hanley Ramirez, this is just posturating
by Josie Becker on Sep 26, 2011 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions
the official cap of Club Morongo
by NotJoeTorre on Sep 26, 2011 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Go big or go home doesn't apply
when you are already at home
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
You'll never actually get whatever they say you will
either way
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I've got 10 at home, and it's usually around 3 (might be my router)
and I can stream perfectly fine. I’d go with 6 or 12.
pulled from somewhere else
1.5 Mbps minimum
3 Mbps minimum for DVD quality
5 Mbps minimum for HD quality (720p)
8 Mbps minimum for HD quality (1080p)
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Are you looking at ATT right now?
Generally you will get a couple of MBPS lower than what you pay for, but I’ve been told with TWC some of my friends actually get higher than they pay for on average. It’s hard to tell because every site that tests speeds show different for me.
thats just the recommended bitrates
for streaming quality
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Heck of a run
Loney slowing down as he stopped moving his OPS+ up one point a day, but still hitting, and he did that while facing left hand pitching last week. He’s always loved Chase, he might end the season on a real bang. He has an OPS+ of 109 which is a career best in a full season by six points.
Chase Field:
1.083 Career in 159 PA’s
Only .741 in 16 PA’s this year. Good time to zoom zoom that up.
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Maybe I need a new chart
But Jon Weisman tweeted something that was a jolt to the system.
2011 slugging percentages
Andre Ethier: .4209
Jim A. Loney: .4111
It’s possible, folks.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 26, 2011 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions
No lefties either.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 26, 2011 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions
Saunders
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 26, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions
I wonder how long he will pitch on Wednesday if nothing is at stake?
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 26, 2011 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions
thank you
Captain Kirk
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 26, 2011 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions
10 total bases in 12 at-bats will do it.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 26, 2011 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions
Piece of Cake
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 26, 2011 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions
wouldn't that be to catch ethier?
and not kemp? I’m confused.
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Yes
why
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 26, 2011 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions
I completely glossed over the Kemp part.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 26, 2011 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions
because our minds knew it was a throwaway comment.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 26, 2011 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Grady Sizemore joined the 30/30 club with 33 home runs and 38 steals in 2008. He was once the jewel of the Bartolo Colon Canola Oil transaction.
This year, Sizemore has no stolen bases, in 71 games. He turned 29 last month (hat tip to Sam Miller for that factoid)
Savor these moments, folks. You never know when they are gone until it’s too late.
Yup – can’t believe he’s 29 already.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 26, 2011 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Hard to believe.
It is always interesting to me when players just “fall off the map”. Whether due to injuries or no longer juicing, or what ever the cause.
Iron Man Mike Kemp does not appear to be wearing down.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 26, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Grady Sizemore had 700 PA four years in a row.
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by regfairfield on Sep 26, 2011 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I wanted to rebutt the paper mache comment but you know how I hate to correct members.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 26, 2011 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions
Maybe those 700 PA every year turned his body in paper mache?
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 26, 2011 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions
You mean, he was the jewel at the time of the deal?
by Michael White on Sep 26, 2011 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Sizemore was the best player received by Cleveland in that deal (Phillips, Lee) until probably after Cliff Lee won the 2008 AL Cy Young Award.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 26, 2011 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Hell until about 2 weeks ago Sizemore had a higher career WAR than Lee.
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by regfairfield on Sep 26, 2011 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Sizemore might have been considered the best young player in baseball for a few years.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 26, 2011 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions
It would kind of like Longoria all of the sudden getting hurt a lot and sucking when he did play.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 26, 2011 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions
I was looking up highest WAR from age 21-25 for some reason and Sizemore is in the top 35 of all time, and he didn’t really get started until he was 22.
There was a few years where he was in the top 5 players in baseball.
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by regfairfield on Sep 26, 2011 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
One of my favorite players to watch for a few years.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 26, 2011 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Even more amazing out of the 34 players ahead of him 29 are Hall of Famers or should be and most of the guys that aren’t in (Dick Allen, Andruw Jones) have a good case for it.
Cesar Cedeno is the only guy that took the Sizemore path.
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by regfairfield on Sep 26, 2011 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions
CF
Speed
Power
Injuries
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 26, 2011 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions
Let’s all of us whistle past this particular graveyard.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 26, 2011 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Hell no.
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by regfairfield on Sep 26, 2011 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions
In 2001 the Indians
got Milton Bradley for a day but feeling they had not delivered enough talent to the Indians , in 2002 they flipped them Philips, Sizemore, and Lee. And threw in Lee Stevens for shits and giggles.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 26, 2011 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions
The scary part about the Diamondbacks
Is they traded their best player last year for Joe Saunders and two crummy prospects and still won 92+ this year. There is no telling how good they would have been with Haren instead of Saunders.
Tyler Skaggs
is one of the best pitching prospects in baseball.
by silverwidow on Sep 26, 2011 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions
I missed his name
as he was TPTBNL in the trade…but yes, the kid looks pretty promising.
11.4 K/9 as a 19 year old in AA. Looks like good control too.
Patrick Corbin
wasn’t terrible in his first go round at AA either.
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They also would have had a payroll $7.25 million higher. Not saying they wouldn’t be better, just that you have to consider their budget as well.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 26, 2011 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Hardly crummy prospects, good chance you’ll be hearing about Skaggs more then you want.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 26, 2011 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions
I still bet
That if you told the DBacks that they make the playoffs this year, they make the trade last year. Having a front line starter like Haren is sure nice in a short playoff series.
You mean they don’t make the trade? Right having Haren on this team would be gravy.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 26, 2011 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Caught a few of the games this weekend, Dee Gordon seemed to be playing elite defense.
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I wasn’t watching, but I will insist that his defense was merely solid.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 26, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Wrath of Kahn
Still a fun movie. Superior Intellect combined with arrogance gets you every time.
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I went to the American Cinematheque’s screening with a Q&A with the director several years ago. He said it was like trying to direct two men who were trying to sing arias to each other.
He also discussed his failed attempt to bring my favorite book, Robertson Davies’s Fifth Business, to the screen.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 26, 2011 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
The guy also directed the TV movie The Day After, which aired when I was, I think, 10 years old, and SCARED THE FUCKING BEJEEZUS OUT OF ME.
The man’s name is Nicholas Meyer. He also wrote and directed The Seven Per Cent Solution, which I have not seen but I hear is a pretty great Sherlock Holmes movie.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 26, 2011 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions
The Day After was scary
I forgot that it ever existed until just now
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 26, 2011 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions
remember it too
There’s a strange little movie named “Last Night” (1998) that follows a few people in the hours before the world ends. Prior to that, I always liked “Miracle Mile” from my youth.
Night movies
I like
“Big Night”
“After Hours”
“Night on earth”
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 26, 2011 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Night on Earth — I took a girl to see that movie. After the movie, she said, “Thanks, I’ve never seen a movie like that ever before.” She never spoke to me again.
That movie was a milestone on my Roberto Benigni kick, which did not end until Life is Beautiful. I was a complete and total hipster about Roberto Benigni. “There’s this Italian dude who might be the funniest man in the world,” I said. I even went to see Son of the Pink Panther in theaters, because he starred in it, and it was terrible. Then Life is Beautiful came out, and everybody joined the cult of Roberto Benigni, and I was like, OK, I’m done. I’m not proud.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 26, 2011 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions
he was great in Night on Earth, but what about....
Johnny Stecchino
Loved both him and Nicoletta Braschi in that one
really love Nicoletta Braschi
really
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 26, 2011 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions
He is great in Johnny Stecchino.
I joined the cult after the other Jarmusch movie, Down By Law. “Een Eenglish, eh, you say, ‘I look AT zee window,’ or ‘I look AT zee window?’”
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 26, 2011 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
and you are far better with Bride than you ever would have been with a girl who didn’t get that movie
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 26, 2011 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Bride has always indulged my movie habit — which, I’ll admit, has become significantly more mainstream over the years. (I don’t see anything anymore — y’know, kids — but even when I did, I still had a bit of an indie kick. I thought the movie “Me and You and Everyone We Know” was the best movie of its year.)
The moment Bride had to choose what kind of movie fan we were going to be was when we saw Scent of a Woman. We walked out of that movie and she said, “I know you hated it, but if I saw that movie by myself, I’d probably have liked it.”
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 26, 2011 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
you didn't like
Scent of a Woman?
(Not gasping, just curious)
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 26, 2011 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I wholly disliked it. I disliked it passionately, violently, fervently; I disliked it with all my vigor.
I should note that I could have out-mintxcore’d mintxcore when it came to movies back then. I would go see plotless Vietnamese art pieces and come back raving. All I can say is, I hope I’ve chilled.
That said, I still don’t think I’d like that movie. I haven’t seen it since it came out 20 years ago.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 26, 2011 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I have only seen bits of it on cable, but from what I gather it is
overacted
manipulative
trite
commercial
contrived
boorish
ego vehicle for Pacino
and generally yech…
these are a few of the thoughts that come to mind. I can deal with mainstream movies like that as long as they are entertaining and don’t take themselves seriously…but I think I was already too old and too cynical for something that was trying to be meaningful
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 26, 2011 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Hoo-ah!
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
when did that guy become such a hack?
Does he always have to scream?
Can’t he do subtle any more?
How fucking good was silent Michael Corleone?
jeez
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 26, 2011 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
After the positive feedback from Scarface.
No, but he’s arguably even worse when he doesn’t.
Nope.
Extremely.
The only thing I’ve seen him in from the last 20 years that I found acceptable was Donnie Brasco, but even still, he was not great in it.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Checkout Scarecrow
with Gene Hackman, from the 70’s
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Still my favorite video store banner
Scent of a Woman Inside!
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
I loved “Me and You and Everyone We Know”
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 26, 2011 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
watched that three straight times first time I saw it. Fantastic film
by Josie Becker on Sep 26, 2011 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
The last movie I saw that was not made by the studio I work for was Winnie the Pooh. Spawn liked it a lot, and frankly, I thought it was charming.
Before that, the last movie I saw that was not made by the studio I work for was the Coens’ True Grit.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 26, 2011 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I recently saw “The Debt”, enjoyed it – reminded me of movies from the 70’s a bit
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 26, 2011 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions
The Day After
isn’t that a movie that goes from “OH NOES, NUKES!!!” to “OH NOES, ZOMBIES!!” ?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 26, 2011 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Wine thoughts
I am not sure if I am going to do another wine post anytime soon, but I thought I would at least let you know what I just ordered from K&L Wines
2009 Fujanera Rosata (Puglia, Italy) – $4.99 a bottle regulary around 12 bucks. I like Rosato for hot days and BBQ, spicy foods, grilled fish….picked up 3 bottles in case we get a hot weekend in October. I haven’t had this wine, but I love the Fujanera Nero di Troia (about 14 bucks a bottle and a steal!!!) and so thought for 5 bucks a bottle, what could it hurt!
Valle dell’acate, Case ididni, Nero d’Avola (Sicily) – like 12.99 a bottle. I really like Nero d’Avola, never tried this one – seems like a good deal and got decent reviews. Nero d’avola is very syrah like, medium body, structure, spicy. A good wine to eat with.
2008 Antonelli Contrario Sagrantino (Umbria) – this wine on sale for $19.99 a bottle, regulary like $65 bucks. I had this wine this summer when on vacation in Umbria. Big red, perfect for a cold night and hearty foods. Not an easy wine to drink if you don’t like heavy red wines. If you are a big red drinker…try it out
2006 Odoardi Savuto (Calabria) – very interesting wine, about 13 bucks a bottle. This is a personal favorite of mine, is one of my week night, don’t care if I finish the whole bottle fall backs. Medium body, funky nose, good tannin, slightly acid. great Pizza wine (even though the Italians really don’t drink wine with Pizza (story for another day)). I love this wine.
2008 Biceglia Aglianico (Campania) – Aglianico is the big red of Campania and one of my favorites. Eat with with a hearty Sunday Ragu, roasted meats, game meats and enjoy – this is a steal at around 14 bucks a bottle
Saw Moneyball
really liked it
was impressed that Billy B was trying to find a few hundred K to make deals work
I really liked it, gave me things to think about beyond baseball
Was going to go last night
ended up not doing it. Will likely see this coming weekend
by Eric Stephen on Sep 26, 2011 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions
I saw it in the Cinerama Dome which is always a win
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 26, 2011 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
It’s far and away the best baseball movie ever, and that’s saying something for a script that used to have Billy nailing waitresses and Bill James as the Great Gazoo.
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by regfairfield on Sep 26, 2011 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I liked this
the subject …..was calmed when another officer advised that the subject’s handcuffs were made of silver and would protect him from any werewolf.
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 26, 2011 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
I sincerely hope they teach this at the police academy.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Sep 26, 2011 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions
brains over beating the shit out of a nutcase always gets high marks from me
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 26, 2011 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Not the guy’s best work, but still, 11 accidentally dirty baseball photos.
Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant
SFW?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 26, 2011 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
As long as your workplace is okay with Bartolo Colon puns.
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by regfairfield on Sep 26, 2011 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions
I'll have to check it out later anyway
that page is slowing my comp down a lot.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 26, 2011 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ve never understood why whenever a kid draws a baseball bat, inevitably the bat end is ginormous
by Josie Becker on Sep 26, 2011 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Good find
I enjoy juvenile double entendres any day of the week.
He makes a solid point, Colon and Chien Ming Wang are great headline gifts.
WHAMMY!
Kemp has won one player of the week
This one.
The only other Dodger to win it this year was Clayton Kershaw for June 20-26. IIRC he had two complete-game 11-strikeout wins that week.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 26, 2011 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Did he win a player of the month?
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Sep 26, 2011 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Nope
Last Dodger to win NL Player of the Month was Manny in August 2008.
Ryan Braun won in April this year.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 26, 2011 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions
How many times was he in SportsCenter’s top plays?
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 26, 2011 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions
His diving catch then throw to first double play
was number 1 on MLBN Plays of the Week
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 26, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Dodgers winning POTW
2010: Furcal
2009: Ethier (twice)
2008: Ethier, Kemp (Kemp won Apr 28 – May 4, last time he won it)
2007: none
2006: Nomar
2005: none
2004: Finley, Beltre
2003: Gagne
by Eric Stephen on Sep 26, 2011 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I've been on the phone with a customer (on mute)
for about an hour and a half with them talking to credit verification, billing, collections, billing, credit verification, and billing again. There’s a couple of past due balances, all the lady wants to know is what the past due amounts are for, and they can’t find that info, and keep transferring her to different departments. Gotta love how Verizon (and all the big similar companies) are good with this type of thing. Ugh.
Maybe if they had
some rum ads on their site, They might be able to afford a decent accounts receivable system
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
by mleadman on Sep 26, 2011 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
MART – TY
LEAD – MAN
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by Hollywood Joe on Sep 26, 2011 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Missed game
I am not sure if this has been addressed, how does the missed game against the nationals play into this? If Kemp was, for example, one home run shy of the Pujols, presumably that one missed game will be an issue.
by Notorious De La Rosa on Sep 26, 2011 1:47 PM PDT reply actions
Then his season falls into the What Might Have Been category and becomes more talked about than Alfonso Soriano’s 46/41 season

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