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Dodgers Fail To Cover First...Place Diamondbacks

Hiroki Kuroda put up zeroes in his final start of 2011.

The Dodgers scored five runs off noted hitter Micah Owings in the 10th inning, taking what looked like an insurmountable 6-1 lead over the Diamondbacks. The inning prompted me to tweet this:

Micah Owings was 7-0 this season before tonight

Make that 8-0. With a five-run lead, Blake Hawksworth got two groundouts to open the 10th inning, but failed to cover first in time on the third grounder, a nice play by James Loney. A single, a walk, and a fielding error by Aaron Miles led to a run, and led to Javy Guerra pitching for the third straight day.

Guerra walked Aaron Hill to force in a run, but it was still 6-3. No need to worry, right?

Wrong.

Ryan Roberts ended the game with a line drive grand slam over the left field wall, giving Arizona a sudden 7-6 win with just the second home run allowed all season by Guerra in 47 appearances.

The regulation portion of the game, however, was highlighted by Ks: Kuroda, Kemp, and Kenley.

Hiroki Kuroda pitched six scoreless innings, ending his season in fine style. He allowed five hits, didn't walk anybody, and struck out five. Unfortunately, the Dodgers didn't score in the first six innings either, not that it was anything new for Kuroda, who had the Dodgers score one run or less for him nine different times this season.

Jarrod Parker, the ninth overall pick of the 2007 MLB draft, made his major league debut tonight, and matched zeroes with Kuroda. Parker retired the first seven batters he faced before Jamey Carroll got him for a single in the third inning. Parker ended up pitching into the sixth inning and didn't allow a run, allowing four hits and a walk while striking out one batter.

Parker made a splash at the plate too, delivering a double down the right field line in the fifth inning in his big league second plate appearance. However, Parker forgot how many outs there were so when Willie Bloomquist flied out to right field, Jerry Sands was able to easily double off Parker at second base to end the inning.

The Dodgers have 36 outfield assists on the season, tied with the Detroit Tigers for fifth most in baseball.

Kuroda was removed for a pinch hitter in the top of the seventh inning, and the Dodgers eventually plated a run thanks to an RBI single by Dee Gordon. However, Gordon was thrown out trying to stretch it into a double, a situation exacerbated by Gordon nearly sliding into left field, to end the inning.

Kuroda is the 38th Los Angeles Dodgers pitcher to throw 200 innings in a season. By reaching the milestone, Kuroda earned an additional bonus of $200,000.

Matt Guerrier was brought in for the second night in a row, to opened the seventh inning. It was the 70th appearance of the season for Guerrier, the fifth straight year he has pitched that many games, the longest active streak in baseball. However, activity doesn't equal achievement, and Guerrier was anything but effective on Tuesday. He faced two batters and didn't record an out, allowing a walk and a double to tie the score at 1-1, giving Kuroda just his third no-decision of the season.

Josh Lindblom pitched a scoreless ninth inning, and in his last six appearances, spanning 5 2/3 innings, has one walk and 12 strikeouts.

The Dodgers are 8-3 in extra innings this season.

Kenley The Great

Kenley Jansen pitched the eighth inning in a 1-1 tie, and continued to impress. He actually showed he is human, allowing a walk and a single, but thanks to that golden right arm the former catcher struck out three to get out of the inning. There are so many ridiculous numbers with Jansen right now it's hard to know where to begin.

  • Jansen has a strikeouts-per-nine-innings ratio of 16.30, which is the best in major league history, beating the record of 15.99 set in 2010 by Carlos Marmol of the Chicago Cubs
  • Jansen has struck out 13 of the last 17 batters he has faced
  • He has struck out 30 of the last 45 batters he has faced
  • In his last 20 1/3 innings, Jansen has five walks and 44 strikeouts
  • Jansen has recorded 34 of his last 42 outs (14 innings) via strikeout
  • He has not allowed a run in 28 of his last 30 appearances

Triple Crown Watch

It's over. Matt Kemp doubled in the fourth inning, extending his hitting streak to 11 games, and had an RBI single in the 10th. However, Kemp hasn't gotten any help on the batting average front from the two league leaders.

Jose Reyes had three hits in six at-bats, including two home runs, on Tuesday, raising his batting average to .3358. Meanwhile Ryan Braun had a single in two at-bats and walked twice in Milwaukee, raising his average to .3345. Kemp is at .3244 and needs a miracle to win the batting title. Just to force a three-way tie at .333333, Kemp would need eight hits in eight at-bats in the season's final game, and have Reyes go 0-for-4 and Braun go 0-for-2 or 1-for-5.

Also, Braun wasn't the story Tuesday in Milwaukee, as Prince Fielder slugged three, count 'em, three home runs to pull even with Kemp atop the National League with 38 round trippers. Kemp, with 124 RBI, has four more than Fielder. In LA Dodger history, only Tommy Davis (153 in 1962) and Shawn Green (125 in 2001) have had more RBI in a season than Kemp.

Tomorrow

Ted Lilly starts the season finale for the Dodgers, facing Joe Saunders for Arizona. The Diamondbacks need a victory and a Milwaukee loss to clinch the second seed in the National League and home field advantage in the NLDS.

WP - Micah Owings (8-0): 1 IP, 4 hits, 5 runs (4 earned), 1 walk, 1 strikeout

LP - Javy Guerra (2-2): 2 batters, 1 walk, 1 grand slam

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Well done on the title

I just knew when Hawk failed to cover… Oh well

The more you drink, the less gruesome I look.
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by Paul Udani on Sep 27, 2011 10:50 PM PDT reply actions  

Well that's the cherry on top

Of what has been an absolute shit sundae of a day. Thanks a lot, you bums.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Sep 27, 2011 10:51 PM PDT reply actions  

I bet y'all are missing our lil TOOTBLANing short stop right now :-)

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Sep 27, 2011 10:52 PM PDT reply actions  

nope

not one. fucking. bit.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 27, 2011 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

(I know you were joking btw)

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 27, 2011 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I want to believe that’s from the catcher but I bet its just him being picked off.

by fbihop on Sep 27, 2011 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Looks like he missed the tag. Safe!

by Xeifrank on Sep 27, 2011 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

how much did he get payed to suck this year? fuck the Cardinals

by NotJoeTorre on Sep 27, 2011 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

he’s been worth a whopping 0 bWAR this year

by eitherethier on Sep 28, 2011 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

How does that compare to bhawksWARth?

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 28, 2011 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

-0.3 bWAR for Hawk

by G.Scott on Sep 28, 2011 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Though the eye test says he’s better than that.

by G.Scott on Sep 28, 2011 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sure. I’d still rather have hawk, especially when the financial element comes into play.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 28, 2011 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

no i mean he’s better than -0.3

by G.Scott on Sep 28, 2011 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m agreeing with that too. And the “eye test” as it could potential refer to siblings.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 28, 2011 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

sister factor is overrated

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 28, 2011 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well

Considering a search for Ryan Theriot’s sister, yielded this image, I have to think Erin wins under any circumstances.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 28, 2011 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

bWAR uses leverage so last night killed him.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Sep 28, 2011 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

.1 fwar

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 28, 2011 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

His peripherals kinda suck too. He’s pretty much the Ryan Theriot of pitchers.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Sep 28, 2011 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

his k/9 and walks aren't that bad

its the dingers that kill him

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 28, 2011 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Gets Ks because he throws 96, gives up jacks because it’s a flat 96.

Someone teach that boy a splitter and have him start.

by G.Scott on Sep 28, 2011 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hawksworth has allowed six home runs in 53 innings this season. He hasn’t really been killed by them at all.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2011 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Average strikeout rate for relievers is way higher than you’d think it should be. He’s below average.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Sep 28, 2011 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

I would expect it to be at or near 1 per inning.

by G.Scott on Sep 28, 2011 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

NL

8.1 per 9 innings for relievers
6.9 for starters

by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2011 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

8.1 is near what i said! :) I wonder what the non-Jansen division is at?

by G.Scott on Sep 28, 2011 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

8.1 per nine. He’s got an above average walk rate but below average home run rate. So .3 WAR for a below average reliever overall seems just about right.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Sep 28, 2011 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

or.1

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 28, 2011 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

the eye test fails me

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 28, 2011 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

use different eyes :)

by G.Scott on Sep 28, 2011 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Eye test probably isn't even the right term

just selective memory

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 28, 2011 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t understand the term. All memory is selective.

by G.Scott on Sep 28, 2011 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

exactly

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 28, 2011 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

when he is on he is fantastic

when he isn’t he gives up dingers

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 28, 2011 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

sounds like that could be applied to just about everyone.

by G.Scott on Sep 28, 2011 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Seems like every bad game I've seen him pitch

was because of a homer instead of a bunch of balls in play and walks

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 28, 2011 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Black hawk down would have been equally good title

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Sep 27, 2011 10:53 PM PDT reply actions  

What's that make 'em? 81-79?

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Sep 27, 2011 10:53 PM PDT reply actions  

Let me be clear: I hope the Dodgers win tomorrow. I always hope the Dodgers win.

But if they lose… there’s a kind of perfection to that 81-80 unbalanced finish. Their spirited play in the last 8 or 9 or 10 weeks of the season outweighs — but only very slightly — their piss-poor play for the first 16 or 17 or 18 weeks. 81-80 is the record that best describes the 2011 Dodgers.

But I hope they tell me I can go fuck myself by spouting that noise. Forgive me, it’s been a long day.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Sep 27, 2011 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

2007 here we come!!!

by Table on Sep 27, 2011 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

We just need a win tomorrow to end the season on a good note

And root for history as well… Meaning a Red Sox loss and a Braves loss…

You know what, screw the Cards… I hope they lose too…

The more you drink, the less gruesome I look.
Barca Blaugranes
@shadowking011

by Paul Udani on Sep 27, 2011 10:58 PM PDT reply actions  

Well the Rays and Braves go up against the best teams in baseball (NYY, PHIL) while the Cardinals and Redsox draw the terrible Astros and Orioles respectably.

by Table on Sep 27, 2011 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Then you realize that Joe Blanton is starting

by Eric Stephen on Sep 27, 2011 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

and that the Yankees and Phils have no reason to start.

by fbihop on Sep 27, 2011 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

to start anyone good, i meant. Sorry, a half-dozen of beers in.

by fbihop on Sep 27, 2011 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yankees are still undecided on who their starter is going to be.

by Xeifrank on Sep 27, 2011 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Karma is still repaying us for the 4+1 game (still a more amazing feat than this game)

by Joey Joe on Sep 27, 2011 10:59 PM PDT reply actions  

Can someone explain the 4+1 game?

by fbihop on Sep 27, 2011 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I listened on the radio, I thought they HAD to be playing replays of the other homeruns, but no it was Russ Martin! and before I finished reacting to the amazing, the cup runeth over with Anderson

by Table on Sep 27, 2011 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Try to make picks in the contest tomorrow. You are probably the only one that can dethrone Phil at this point. Thanks. :)

by Xeifrank on Sep 27, 2011 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ll try, but swamped at work.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Sep 27, 2011 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bruce Bochy, the manager of the Padres has seen enough, and calls for Hoffman to pitch.

LOL

by fbihop on Sep 27, 2011 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rudy Seanez, who last enjoyed a good season sometime in the mid-90s

by NotJoeTorre on Sep 27, 2011 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Twenty years from now, somebody will start a Dodger blog called “Memories of Rudy Seanez.”

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Sep 27, 2011 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

He gave up a home run to Charlie Hayes that is possibly the farthest-hit ball I have ever seen.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 27, 2011 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Who was the pitcher that Charlie Hayes charged from second base?

by Eric Stephen on Sep 27, 2011 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think Todd Stottlemyre? It was a Dback, I’m pretty sure.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 27, 2011 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or they could call it "Seanez Signs"

and get lots of search results from people who spell the site name incorrectly, looking for this:

by Eric Stephen on Sep 27, 2011 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

i can't wait for her to hold

that mic in jason campbells face in a few months

by delias man on Sep 28, 2011 8:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Awesome! Thanks.

Was before I started seriously paying attention to the Dodgers. Was more of a casual fan before then.

by fbihop on Sep 27, 2011 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

thank you

For this epic recap of an epic game. I remember watching that game back when I was 16 and I was so uplifted by the dodgers, it felt like I was on the team , on the field. It had to be one of the greatest dodger games of the 21st century if not the greatest.

by lnickerson88 on Sep 28, 2011 12:05 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Jon Weisman at Dodger Thoughts had a very nice 5-year remembrance of 4+1 last week. It’s almost as long as Humma’s email :)

by Eric Stephen on Sep 27, 2011 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

at least Humma’s email post had a subject (optional) header we could use to minimize the post. :)

by Xeifrank on Sep 27, 2011 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wha?

I kinda thought we might have already gotten back our Karma?

2outsathome1play
2yearsdowntheStairs2hell

by Table on Sep 27, 2011 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

but the 2 outs at home wasnt karma, it was rich donnelly

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Sep 27, 2011 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

and the Todd Helton game in Colorado, exactly one year later. The first time in 365 calendar days that Saito allowed more than one run.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 27, 2011 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I remember it well…..I had just finished expounding upon the brilliance of Saito to my bro….

by Table on Sep 27, 2011 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sweeping that double header really got them going… And got us rolling in the opposite direction…

The more you drink, the less gruesome I look.
Barca Blaugranes
@shadowking011

by Paul Udani on Sep 27, 2011 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

i was sitting right behind the plate

worst feeling in a stadium ever. even more than stairs bomb

by delias man on Sep 28, 2011 8:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Someone made a deal with the devil around October 15th, 1988

by NotJoeTorre on Sep 27, 2011 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thursday baseball looks likely

Baseball Prospectus:

We’re currently above 80% to enjoy some extra regular-season baseball, and there’s a healthy 30% chance that we get not one but two bonus games. You can hardly script it better than this, folks.

by fbihop on Sep 27, 2011 10:59 PM PDT reply actions  

I love sudden death!

games

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Sep 27, 2011 11:02 PM PDT reply actions  

me too!

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 27, 2011 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Who doesn't?

Oh yeah, the managers of the teams involved…

The more you drink, the less gruesome I look.
Barca Blaugranes
@shadowking011

by Paul Udani on Sep 27, 2011 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Me

I don’t like it in baseball. Most any other sport? Fine, but baseball where you could have your #5 starter starting that game? Bleh.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 28, 2011 8:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

If the managers play it right, the aces should be lined up to start game 1 of the playoffs. Since they are already in line to pitch, said ace should start game 163 instead.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 28, 2011 8:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

even then

not a fan. It just seems un-baseball to me. I wish there was a magical way to do it in at least a 3 game series, but that would never work.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 28, 2011 8:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

back in the day, this was the only way you could get a playoff game before the World Series. In fact, the word playoff actually means an additional game to decided a tied contest

by Josie Becker on Sep 28, 2011 8:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Tell that to all the three-game NL playoffs the Dodgers were involved in.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2011 8:33 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Maury Wills asked Matt Kemp to call him when he plays 165.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 28, 2011 8:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

with

scheduled doubleheaders

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 28, 2011 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

For the rest of his career he got thrown out at a decent clip but man in 62, those 104 stolen bases with only 13 caught stealing was off the charts.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2011 8:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

1946
1951
1959
1962

All three-game playoffs for the NL pennant, involving the Dodgers.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2011 8:45 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Damn

1962 is legendary Dodger history but dang if I knew we had to win a three game playoff in 59 for the honer of rolling the White Sox.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2011 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dodgers were down 3 in the 9th in the second game, tied it, then won in the 12th on a throwing error. I’m pretty sure I have heard Scully’s call, but can’t remember what it was. It might be on the 1959 DVD.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2011 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Warren Spahn, on two-days rest, blew the save.

Sandy Koufax pitched in middle relief in that game too.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2011 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Damn, now it is coming back they went one inning to long with Burdette. Did you see all of those HOF in that lineup?
Matthews
Aaron
Red Schoendienst
Enos Slaughter
Spahn

followed by great players like
Mickey Vernon
Joe Adcock
Johnny Logan
Del Crandell

Hell we had
Don and Sandy pitch and Sandy blew chunks.

What a game that must have been.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2011 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Looks like Charlie Neal was getting warmed up for his great World Series performance.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2011 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Didn’t realize Slaughter was on that team. Schoendienst either. Awesome.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2011 9:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

The box score was a who’s who of the present best and a plethora of the past best.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2011 9:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

That was my Dad’s team, I may have to ask him about that series. I’m fairly certain he was in Korea when that was going on because we had been living with my grandparents in Glendale while he was overseas in 59. He didn’t meet me until I was two.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2011 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Best part of 1959

was that the Giants were the team that gacked.

SF was up by 2 on both the Dodgers and Braves with 8 games to play. Then the Giants got swept by the Dodgers and went 1-7 to end the season.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2011 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Starting a theme that would last a 50 years until Cliff Lee failed to deliver.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2011 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah, and it was against the two-time defending NL pennant-winning Braves.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2011 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

On the flip side you made Eric revisit some interesting history.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2011 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

get a load of Captain Bring-Down

whoooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaa

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 28, 2011 8:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

I feel ashamed for laughing at this

The more you drink, the less gruesome I look.
Barca Blaugranes
@shadowking011

by Paul Udani on Sep 27, 2011 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know it’s the best.

by Alex41592 on Sep 27, 2011 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would have gone with Hank Gathers. But this works.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 27, 2011 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

letting my anger settle

i realize this was a hell of a game, that just went the other way for us.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 27, 2011 11:07 PM PDT reply actions  

It was a fluke loss, it doesn’t mean our bullpen is bad. Plus the offense looked good. Gordon, Carroll, Ellis!! I like my OBP hiyyy

by Table on Sep 27, 2011 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

It really was kind of bizarre. Just a crazy capper to a great day of baseball.

We are headed into the final day of the season with both wild cards tied. Gotta love it.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 27, 2011 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s been a great month for baseball

by Table on Sep 27, 2011 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wouldn’t be much drama if they had the two wild-card configuration this year.

by Xeifrank on Sep 27, 2011 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

i know hawksworth should been at first

but i dont think the home plate ump was helping either. hawks walked some right? a couple of the pitches were strikes.

"Next year, we're definitely going to make the playoffs."
-MVP

by funkyjam on Sep 27, 2011 11:10 PM PDT reply actions  

The ump got squeezy with one batter

Called balls on all three pitches at the letters on the inside corner to Chris Young, who walked on four pitches. Perhaps Hawk should have tried the outside half of the plate if the ump wasn’t going to give him the up and in strike.

by The Dude Abides on Sep 28, 2011 1:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Jansen has a strikeout-to-walk ratio of 16.30, which is the best in major league history, beating the record of 15.99 set in 2010 by Carlos Marmol of the Chicago Cubs

do you mean K/9? i would image marmol would have a miserable K/BB ratio

by wukunlin on Sep 28, 2011 12:03 AM PDT reply actions  

Yep

I will correct.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2011 12:05 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Wow…it seems that this is just spiraling down. Hopefully something will be decided next month.

by lnickerson88 on Sep 28, 2011 2:47 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

everybody making their move

nobody wants this decided without getting their best interest out there, no one wants to die without drawing all of their weapons

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 28, 2011 6:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

I dreamed last night that Lilly was traded to the Yankees, they took him to block the Sox from getting him

I was disappointed this morning not to see it was true, it was one of those dreams that was really, really, real

kinda like the one with Kat Dennings

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 28, 2011 6:38 AM PDT reply actions  

so do we have a fun guest coach for today's game?

"They say The Jet's lost a step or two... but I wouldn't be surprised to see some fireworks here."

by DodgerSF on Sep 28, 2011 6:51 AM PDT reply actions  

Donnie said he wanted to do that

we’ll see now that it may mean something for the D-backs.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 28, 2011 6:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Because it's a somewhat meaningless game

I’d like to see Gibby come over and manage a game for us :)

by Ivdown on Sep 28, 2011 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

what would it mean?

"They say The Jet's lost a step or two... but I wouldn't be surprised to see some fireworks here."

by DodgerSF on Sep 28, 2011 7:03 AM PDT reply actions  

They are trying for the #2 seed in the playoffs

also known as, “We don’t want to play the Phillies the first round”

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 28, 2011 7:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Or at the very least, have home field advantage in the NLDS.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2011 7:53 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

right

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by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 28, 2011 7:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

super sad that today is the last game of the year for the Dodgers

"They say The Jet's lost a step or two... but I wouldn't be surprised to see some fireworks here."

by DodgerSF on Sep 28, 2011 7:07 AM PDT reply actions  

indeed

hopefully, we’re celebrating Matt Kemp joining a certain club by the end of the night.

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by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 28, 2011 7:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nice. I can comment again.

by Michael White on Sep 28, 2011 7:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

did it send you to the top of the page

every time you clicked something yesterday?

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by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 28, 2011 7:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

did you collect $200, did you pass Go?

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 28, 2011 7:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

i did

but I landed on Mediterranean, and there were two hotels there. TWO!!!

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by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 28, 2011 7:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

It is fun sometimes to play Monopoly with unlimited building.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2011 7:54 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

6, 7, Baltic avenue

10 Hotels there, sign over your first born!

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by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 28, 2011 7:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yup. So I guess this problem was not unique to me.

by Michael White on Sep 28, 2011 7:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

yeah, same thing happened to me

I think it was the ad that was there yesterday.

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by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 28, 2011 7:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

I thought it might have been the ad too, but I couldn’t comment on other SBN blogs either (and they didn’t have the same ad.)

by Michael White on Sep 28, 2011 7:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

now that you mention it, I couldn’t either.

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by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 28, 2011 7:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

the plot thickens

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by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 28, 2011 7:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Me too

site was f-ed up all day for me. But it is a free site, so nuts up.

by Xeifrank on Sep 28, 2011 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Once they start screwing with the ability of the clients to access the site, they are experiencing what some might call arrogance or incompetence.

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by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2011 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’d like all four teams in the hunt to either lose today or win today so that they get to play each other to complete the regular season. Anything else would be completely unsatisfactory.

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by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2011 8:20 AM PDT reply actions  

I agree. Unless, of course, the Red Sox just lose. That would also be satisfactory.

I would very much like to see the Cardinals beat the Braves in #163 just to punctuate that collapse.

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by Nolij on Sep 28, 2011 8:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

I want the Cardinals to lose so bad

by keithc13 on Sep 28, 2011 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

word

that would make tomorrow so cool. Even though i’d probably miss a lot of the AL game.

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by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 28, 2011 8:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dodger BS

Fox sues Dodgers

Ned says Dodgers have been given permission to sign a NINE digit free agent!!!!!!!!!!

Took my toes but eventually I figured out that Ned is talking about a minimum $100,000,000 dollar deal. Course he used the word 9 digits. Is it possible that someone is playing with nine toes?

Reyes – Nada
Beltran – No way
Prince – maybe baby
Pujols – maybe baby

Who else could be a nine digit free agent?

While I’m all for spending money, I’d rather the 1st priority if Frank all of the sudden has found a fountain of money is to lock up Mr. Kemp ASAP. All 9 Digits worth.

youknowhatimean.

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by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2011 8:27 AM PDT reply actions  

Sabathia would qualify

But its a big difference being authorized to pony up a 9 figure deal, and being authorized to outbid the Yankees.

by Michael White on Sep 28, 2011 8:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

That would be cool we get a pitcher and the big bat:)

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by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2011 8:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

The only other potential 9 digit free agents would be CJ Wilson and (in theory at least) CC Sabathia, if he opts out. I doubt the Dodgers would get in on that action. My guess is Ned is pretending the Dodgers could be part of the Prince sweepstakes, but ultimately will pull up short.

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by Nolij on Sep 28, 2011 8:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Beltran + CJ Wilson = over 100 mil?

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by nolander on Sep 28, 2011 8:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe – don’t see any scenario where CJ Wilson comes close to 9 digits.

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by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2011 8:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

30+75

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by nolander on Sep 28, 2011 8:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

cj wilson is the best pitcher

to truly be available this offseason. He is probably getting 5 years and 15 per

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by nolander on Sep 28, 2011 8:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Most big money FA pitches have had more then two successful years as a starter on their resume. His is an interesting case.

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by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2011 8:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

AJ Burnett hadn't had that much better of a career

.9 then 2.9 war, then 5.1, then BOOM money. CJ Wilson, 2.0 war, 4.0 war, then 5.7 war, BOOM money?

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by nolander on Sep 28, 2011 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

ah right

that 2.0 war year was as a reliever. Still.

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by nolander on Sep 28, 2011 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Burnett was a few years younger too

by Michael White on Sep 28, 2011 8:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Why do you bring WAR into a conversation about how much a GM is going to spend?

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by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2011 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

AJ Burnett hadn't had that much better of a career

3.98 then 3.75 war, then 4.07, then BOOM money. CJ Wilson, 2.81 war, 3.35 war, then 2.94 war, BOOM money?

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by nolander on Sep 28, 2011 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

ah right

that 2.0 war year was as a reliever. Still.

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by nolander on Sep 28, 2011 8:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

if we go by era instead of war CJ Wilson looks even better!

Their SO numbers are pretty similar too. CJ has the lead in ERA+

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by nolander on Sep 28, 2011 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

replace war with ERA

oops

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by nolander on Sep 28, 2011 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think that’s probably about right. But if 4 teams are willing to go there, one of them will add a year or two and a couple mil to make it happen. But if it’s just the Yankees and Rangers, then 5/75 seems right.

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by Nolij on Sep 28, 2011 8:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think anyone blinks and gives him six years. This is CJ Wilson who will turn 31 in November.

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by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2011 8:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Certainly noone should. But that rarely means anything.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 28, 2011 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree on that.

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by nolander on Sep 28, 2011 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

9 digits???

If that’s true, then we might just…oh man. That seriously has to mean Prince, Fielder, CC, possibly (hopefully not) CJ Wilson.

by Ivdown on Sep 28, 2011 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

McCourt is counting on getting the TV rights auction he wants. He lives in pretend-world. But it may mean he actually authorizes it before the court decides, so deluded is he. Then it might or might not be up to MLB to approve it, depending where the legal situation is. On the one hand, McCourt might be able to go ahead and promise it without actually having the cash; then, eventually, when the dust settles, whoever owns the teams makes it good. Or, he may not be able to contract such a huge IOU, and he can blame MLB for being prevented, and gain some fan support or something, and a bigger mess. Who knows?

by berkowit28 on Sep 28, 2011 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Would you rather

A. Prince Fielder at 1st 7/20, no Loney, outfield of Sands/Kemp/Andre
B. Pujols at 1st 8/25, no Loney, outfield of Sands/Kemp/Andre
C. Beltran in RF 2/30, Loney at 1st, outfield of Beltran/Kemp/Andre with Sands backing up 1st and OF, with Beltran taking over RF in 2013, and Sands taking over LF in 2013?

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by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2011 8:41 AM PDT reply actions  

In C, do we get to spend the money saved on something else good?

If not, I’d take A.

by Michael White on Sep 28, 2011 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Whichever one includes Matt Kemp through 2019.

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by Nolij on Sep 28, 2011 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's hard to turn down Pujols

But 8 years is a long long time. 7 is too, but Fielder is younger. But Fielder is also bigger and likely to be in worse shape later on. Really hard to pick one, but definitely A or B.

by Ivdown on Sep 28, 2011 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Definitely A

/Cards are my second favorite team full disclosure

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by JLS23 on Sep 28, 2011 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

The NL playoffs will be at least 50% teams I don't want to root for

Phillies, Cards and Braves. I can pull for the Brewers and even the DBacks against those teams, and the AL.


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by David Young on Sep 28, 2011 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

A. That’s $40M less committed $$ than B.

C holds some intrigue, but man I’d be worried about Beltran breaking down at any moment.


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by David Young on Sep 28, 2011 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Would have to be Beltran+Aramis if you’re not getting Fielder/Prince but still want to spend the money.

by G.Scott on Sep 28, 2011 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I could go for some Jose Reyes.

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by regfairfield on Sep 28, 2011 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

That would be a mistake, IMO

Let’s get someone with home run power.

by Ivdown on Sep 28, 2011 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I want no part of Reyes. Didn’t we just get rid of a oft-injured shortstop?

by fbihop on Sep 28, 2011 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m assuming we can’t afford people that are both healthy and good.

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by regfairfield on Sep 28, 2011 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Perceptions suck

Reyes isn’t oft-injured, and could/should be moved to third base.

Reyes and Beltran would make for an interesting Dee7, Reyes5, Beltran9, Kemp8, Ethier7, Loney3, Barajas2, Uribe4. Depending on your stance you could plug Sands in at either LF or 1B and say adios to either Loney or Ethier, but it’s really too bad he can’t play third base.

by G.Scott on Sep 28, 2011 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Reyes games played, by year, as full time player

161
153
160
159
36
133
125


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by David Young on Sep 28, 2011 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was on that train

then his hammy flaired up again.

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by nolander on Sep 28, 2011 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Worse case scenario
Loney/Gordon/Reyes/Uribe works for me

Top of the lineup with
Reyes
Gordon
Kemp

Would be wildly fun to watch.

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by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2011 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Assuming the very likely scenario we don’t get Prince or Pujols.

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by regfairfield on Sep 28, 2011 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

With only 7 HR

Reyes has a .493 slugging % !
If they move in the fences at Citi, I wonder if that hurts Reyes – his gappers get to the wall and back faster and triples turn back into doubles.


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by David Young on Sep 28, 2011 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

What is his career slugging percentage?

And I’m sure his skills would play good in Dodger Stadium (and Petco, Colorado, The BOB, and ATT for that matter), but if we are spending that kind of money just go for the monster power bat at 1B in Pujols or Fielder.

by Ivdown on Sep 28, 2011 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

.457 from 2006 to the present.

Gordon and Reyes hitting in front of Kemp holds some intrigue.


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by David Young on Sep 28, 2011 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Allmost Herzog Cardinals-esque.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 28, 2011 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

It would have to

he had several triples against us to the gap didnt he?

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by nolander on Sep 28, 2011 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gordon seems like a better option at short

then anything we have at 3rd. /overvaluing our prospect?

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by nolander on Sep 28, 2011 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Since we do not have a 3rd base prospect this seems accurate.

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by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2011 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow, I had no clue Miguel Cabrera was at 7.2 fWAR

He actually has a shot at finishing top 3 in MVP.

by Ivdown on Sep 28, 2011 8:53 AM PDT reply actions  

Don’t you post a link to the FanGraphs leaderboards every single day? If I had to guess somebody who would know, you would be up there.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2011 8:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not every day

Just almost every day :)

I look nearly every day but its usually at the top because of Kemp, and now Miggy is getting up there.

by Ivdown on Sep 28, 2011 9:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

In case anyone feels like buying anything today
@Dodgers Los Angeles Dodgers
Dodgers reached 800,000 LIKES on Facebook, so you get 25% off at the Dodgers.com Shop today by using code DODGERSFB atmlb.com/re06La

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by underdog on Sep 28, 2011 9:02 AM PDT reply actions  

800,000 is the critical point? Set by MLB (shop) itself? Jeez.

by berkowit28 on Sep 28, 2011 9:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

just a way to hype up

a sale is all.

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by nolander on Sep 28, 2011 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

I"m guessing that if it was 340,000 the same tweet would have been sent using 340,000 instead of 800,000. In fact I’m going to go out on a huge limb and stat that every team’s facebook fans got the same message with the only difference being the number of LiKES they have relative to their team.

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by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2011 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yea. Bunch of crap. Thanks.

by berkowit28 on Sep 28, 2011 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yep, it's all a marketing hype ruse

still a decent deal if anyone wanted to order something anyway

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by underdog on Sep 28, 2011 9:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ya

I appreciate the heads up. Days like this basically pay for the shipping.

by Michael White on Sep 28, 2011 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

stupid shipping

almost annihilates the discount for a cap. Blah.

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by nolander on Sep 28, 2011 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Best last day of the season ever? I can’t wait until 4pm. This is why baseball is still the best sport. All year long I heard [and sometimes said] this was a lackluster year for races. At the end, we have the dream/nightmare scenario come true.

by kinbote on Sep 28, 2011 9:03 AM PDT reply actions  

All it took was all the arms in baseball hitting a wall in Sept. At the end of the day, I’m going to guess the offense did not drop as much as was expected back in June. Some awful pitching going on these days.

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by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2011 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Are you in some weird half-hour time zone? Newfoundland? What happens at 4 pm where you live?

by berkowit28 on Sep 28, 2011 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, the other teams. OK.

by berkowit28 on Sep 28, 2011 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Games starting at 4pm

Boston at Baltimore
New York at Tampa Bay
Philliadelphia at Atlanta

Then a little later, St. Louis at Houston.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2011 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

PS: Belatedly but nice headline Eric. I see what you did there.

(Oh, the pain, the pain… I’m so glad that game didn’t knock the dodgers out of the playoffs or something or we’d be talking about it for years after…)

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by underdog on Sep 28, 2011 9:03 AM PDT reply actions  

Why haven't the Red Sox convinced Pedro to come pitch for them today?

maybe he’s too out of shape.

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by underdog on Sep 28, 2011 9:04 AM PDT reply actions  

Not verified but I saw a stat on MLBTV that said Lester was 14 – 0 against the Orioles.

David Price is going against the bullpen I imagine. I think he lost last time he went against the Yankee bullpen.

Cardinals would seem to have the huge advantage going against the Astro’s but somehow I see them losing.

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by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2011 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

It is interesting that Chen is a Type B so the Royals have a reason to ask for something in return.

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by regfairfield on Sep 28, 2011 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

God, that would be so cool

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by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2011 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

and he wouldn't be playoff eligible!

ask for Lavarnway, Royals! ;-)

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by underdog on Sep 28, 2011 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Is everyone else with Phil

and wants all the Wild Card teams to win/lose today so there are playoffs for the Wild Cards?

Whether it’s that or settled today, who is everyone rooting for?

I’ve got the Rays and Cardinals (Braves are dead to me after not taking out the Giants last year, luckily the Phillies were already dead to me)

by Ivdown on Sep 28, 2011 9:16 AM PDT reply actions  

Would love to see 163, but fuck the Red Sox and fuck the Cardinals. If they are eliminated today I won’t be sad.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2011 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

ditto

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by nolander on Sep 28, 2011 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

bah, I’d rather see great baseball history at this point

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by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2011 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think I’m with Phil. I’d like to see this handled with 1 game playoffs in both leagues, just because that would be fun.

But ya, fuck the Red Sox.

by Michael White on Sep 28, 2011 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dan Shaunessy was on the Dan Patrick show

talking about the Red Sox like an internet commenter.

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by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 28, 2011 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

wha?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 28, 2011 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Greatest contribution Carl Everett ever made

He called Shaugnessy the “curly-haired boyfriend” of Sox beat writer Gordon Edes.

An internet meme was thus launched.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2011 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

and now I know!

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by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 28, 2011 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

I swear Eric, we have the same mother.

Fuck the Cards and Sox with a passion

by keithc13 on Sep 28, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

The 2004 World Series had no winners

by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2011 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Disagree

I was very glad that Albert Pujols has a ring. The Cardinals were incidental.

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by Nolij on Sep 28, 2011 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Pujols got an NL champion ring in 2004

by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2011 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

I started to make a cock-ring joke and then thought better of it

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 28, 2011 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Lose the social filter Joe. It’s the last day of the regular season.

by keithc13 on Sep 28, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

it involved The Castro and a 3 game series with the Giants

it got really ugly, really fast

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 28, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m only rooting for the Rays, but I’d like to see them decide these games head to head. Hero’s and Goats will be created on Thursday that will last a lifetime, isn’t that right Mr. Bucky Dent?

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by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2011 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Rays fans are going to be disappointed when they make this huge and memorable comeback and then get stomped by the Tigers.

by Michael White on Sep 28, 2011 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

No they won’t. I don’t know the numbers last night but from the shots I saw they had a nice crowd going crazy for them.

Plus the TIgers won’t stomp anyone. If Fister can do this magic after they see him more then once I’ll be a monkey’s uncle.

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by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2011 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Actually, I screwed this up. Didn’t realize Rangers had 95 wins (Tigers have 94.) So it could be Tigers/Yankees with Rangers vs. WildCard. Or Tigers and Rangers could tie and I don’t know what the tiebreaker is.

by Michael White on Sep 28, 2011 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Tigers have the tiebreaker (won season series with Texas 6-3)

by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2011 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

I would root for 163 if it meant chaos for the other teams.

But in the AL, the Tigers and Rangers will know by tonight which one is the 2 seed, and which one (the 3 seed) has to go to NY. The number 2 seed hosts the wild card winner, so there is no limbo about taking a plane somewhere.

In the NL, the D-Backs and Brewers might not know until Thursday night who they will play in the NLDS, but who cares since that series doesn’t start until Saturday anyway.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2011 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

In my opinion

Some underrated [whatever that means] storylines heading into the playoffs:

1. Texas’s amazing offense. Up and down the lineup are bats.
2. Milwaukee’s front three (Gallardo, Greinke, Marcum).
3. I can’t think of a number three.

by kinbote on Sep 28, 2011 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

How well the Red Sox/Rays have played in the playoffs because they spent the end of the season fighting instead of coasting on secured spots.

by G.Scott on Sep 28, 2011 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Losing all those games the last month of the year is probably great practice for the Red Sox in the playoffs.

by Michael White on Sep 28, 2011 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

I still can’t believe the fastballs Papelbon was throwing right down the middle to Adam Jones for the last out last night. Jones had several good cuts and could’ve easily connected. That would’ve been it.

by kinbote on Sep 28, 2011 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Texas has a crazy good lineup when healthy

Kinsler, Michael Young, Beltre, Nelson Cruz, Hamilton, Napoli, Moreland…Damn

by Ivdown on Sep 28, 2011 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Whatever happens

Kemp needs to hit a pair of homers today, not just to join 40/40 but to build a cushion against Prince and possibly two games from Pujols.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2011 9:20 AM PDT reply actions  

He’s facing the right guy to do it against.

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by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2011 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Kemp v. Saunders

9 for 27 with 3 homers and a double

by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2011 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Who isn’t?

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by regfairfield on Sep 28, 2011 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Casey Blake

0 for 17

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by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2011 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Andre found a LHP he owns

10 for 23

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by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2011 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

2 of those home runs were this year, the other was last October 2.

MRKMFGT

by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2011 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Fuck the Cardinals

is one of my favorite phrases, or more specifically, “Fuck La Russa”, but I don’t want Pujols getting an extra game to possibly pass Kemp. So, I am hoping for a resolution on NL WC today and hoping for a one-game playoff in the AL tomorrow.

In a year that has been so improbable, the impossible has happened

by JB 8 on Sep 28, 2011 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Do people think that the Dbacks will be “trying harder” (with the same pitcher but maybe better position players?) now that they can still play for home field advantage because they won yesterday? How far alomng will the other games be when ours starts? 7th inning or so? Might that make a difference? I suppose it will validate anything Kemp manages to achieve against “real opposition”?

by berkowit28 on Sep 28, 2011 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, they absolutely will.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2011 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wonder if noggin knocker plays

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by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2011 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Caught bits and pieces during commercials in the Dodger game. It has promise.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 28, 2011 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

she is truly cute, adorable even

I am not sure she has enough sex in her violence for me

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 28, 2011 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was prepared for this. Because it’s true, but I haven’t thought it through yet. Sexual maturity and violence seem so intertwined, I want to read books on this topic

by Josie Becker on Sep 28, 2011 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

well, I was quoting the band, not the president, Bush, so take it all with a grain of salt

but I always liked smart girls with a hint of danger on them

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 28, 2011 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

ah, right, sorry, that was tangental to a class I took

by Josie Becker on Sep 28, 2011 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

so wait

the new girl is good?

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 28, 2011 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

better than I would have ever guessed

you want to look at her face and she is a delight to boot

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 28, 2011 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’d say I underestimated New Girl and Whitney. They have much more potential than their pilots let on. Two Broke Girls is probably actually horrible, though

by Josie Becker on Sep 28, 2011 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

My wife wants to watch the new girl

I told here to test drive it for me, but I guess I’ll jump in with her.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 28, 2011 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

it has cute Zooey, it’s always lampooning Bro culture, it also doesn’t like hippies, I dunno, it’s got something for everyone

by Josie Becker on Sep 28, 2011 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

they guy who is supposed to be good looking is truly bad – he is no “good looking dumb guy” from friends, whoever that was

they need to kill that guy or do something to make him less a cartoon

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 28, 2011 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

oh for sure. He’s heading into one dimensional territory and needs some redeeming qualities, stat

by Josie Becker on Sep 28, 2011 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

doesn't like hippies

SOLD1

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Sep 28, 2011 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Whitney….improves?

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by regfairfield on Sep 28, 2011 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

I know, but I gave episode two a chance and it’s actually kind of funny. Less “I’m Whitney, bitch” and more “I’m gonna try and play off my costar, who’s also funny”

by Josie Becker on Sep 28, 2011 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Her SO seemed like the best part of the show. Her friends blow chunks and have been done a billion times. Must be hard to come up with a new character type.

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by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2011 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

All right one more chance. It’s just jarring to go from Community and Parks and Rec to what seemed like a parody of a bad sitcom from 1998.

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by regfairfield on Sep 28, 2011 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

I know, believe me, I know. One more shot and if it doesn’t make you laugh, let it go, into the wind.

I haven’t seen this week’s Office, but I also put it on notice after the season premiere.

by Josie Becker on Sep 28, 2011 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

argh

I have a hard time letting shows go even when they are pat their prime. I hope the office either rights the ship or ends it after this season. I have a feeling neither will happen.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 28, 2011 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

really easy for me

I love when I write a show off, I often loath myself for how much tivoing I do

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 28, 2011 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

it was a fun dead open, but then the hulu and tutsi angle? In season 7?

by Josie Becker on Sep 28, 2011 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, Josie.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 28, 2011 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

I happen to like James Spader a lot. So, it helps with me.

by Alex41592 on Sep 28, 2011 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

smug and perpetually creepy

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 28, 2011 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Community was OK for me last week, but nothing special.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2011 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

I could tire of this ‘Pierce is out, he’s in, he’s out’ quickly.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 28, 2011 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was bored, I watch it because Mrs HJ watches it, and sometimes it is good, but I would never watch it otherwise

I do like the dark haired one though

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 28, 2011 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

I guess Amazon’s Kindle is not going to go lightly into the good night as everyone told me when the IPad came out.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2011 9:31 AM PDT reply actions  

I have read on both

I read between 35+ books a year

I am keeping the Kindle

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 28, 2011 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

I have no idea what “between” is doing in that sentence

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 28, 2011 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

It’s being a pier – “a disappointed bridge”.

by berkowit28 on Sep 28, 2011 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

e-ink

love it so much

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 28, 2011 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Shoot

I’m thinking of buying a kindle fire after reading up on it. 199 for a nice tablet hooked into amazons services? Yes please.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 28, 2011 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

My friend just mentioned to me about Vernon Wells that this must be the worst offensive season with 25 HR ever. Have we gone through that with Rob Deer and company before?

by Ivdown on Sep 28, 2011 9:35 AM PDT reply actions  

Tony Batista off the top of my head, I’ll see if Wells is worse.

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by regfairfield on Sep 28, 2011 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Batista has the two worst. Then Vinny Castilla, Aaron Hill, Jeff Francouer, Corey Synder and Tony Armas.

This is in terms of oWAR before position adjustments.

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by regfairfield on Sep 28, 2011 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

OPS+ has him at 4th worst with two seasons of Tony Batista and Aaron Hill in front.

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by regfairfield on Sep 28, 2011 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Marquis Grissom had it for 20 HR

by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2011 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Grissom managed a 71 OPS+ with 21 homers for the Dodgers in 2001.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2011 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Why is it every time I rec something you say

It brings up the rec number next to the “flag” button, but it doesn’t do that with anyone else I rec, hahahah.

by Ivdown on Sep 28, 2011 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

He's an Angel fan

and his team is not going to the playoffs, so time to lament the moves that stopped his team from making it, hahah.

by Ivdown on Sep 28, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sharing kinbote’s enthusiasm. I can’t wait for tonight’s games.

Apparently ESPN has gone crazy awesome and will be showing all four games. AL games on ESPN and NL games on ESPN2. They’ll probably be swapping back and forth between the games.

by Alex41592 on Sep 28, 2011 9:35 AM PDT reply actions  

this is what ESPN is good for

all that other shit is shit

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 28, 2011 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ya, for all the complaining about ESPN, they pony up and provide A LOT of meaningful games that otherwise wouldn’t be shown.

They seemingly do it for college football every year.

by Michael White on Sep 28, 2011 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

when they serve the core, they serve it well

when they, correctly as a business, try to expand beyond core meatheads like us…it fails for us and pisses us off

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 28, 2011 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

well and live sports programming is expensive, you gotta fill up space with old guys talking in a studio

by Josie Becker on Sep 28, 2011 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

College sports

seems to have the oldest guys as analysts.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 28, 2011 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Second to boxing.

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by regfairfield on Sep 28, 2011 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

well you gotta appeal to the alumni who are going to buy the luxury car advertised between segments. Frat boys ain’t buying those : )

by Josie Becker on Sep 28, 2011 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

like their fathers, or like they have a kid and suddenly they want a Lincoln?

by Josie Becker on Sep 28, 2011 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Damn ex College Football Coaches seem to live forever.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2011 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Someone needs to do a study on this

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 28, 2011 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m amazed Lou Holtz is able to sit upright that long

by Josie Becker on Sep 28, 2011 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

haha something tells me there aren’t that many “core meatheads” around here.

by BFDC on Sep 28, 2011 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

cool

but did ESPN just get lucky that all this happened on a Wednesday? MLBN has been killing it recently on coverage.

by kinbote on Sep 28, 2011 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

MLB Network has built itself into a real must have net. Lucky for them, there’s so much baseball content to work with, and MLB owns rights to all the local feeds. Unlike NFL network, which barely ever has a live game and is now negotiating with ESPN to take over the Thursday night games

by Josie Becker on Sep 28, 2011 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

look, you guys suck at this

Here is a billion and we will produce the game for the next 20 years. bye now.

by delias man on Sep 28, 2011 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

they both suck

but NFLN sucks more.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 28, 2011 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

their crew last year

might be the worst I’ve ever heard

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by nolander on Sep 28, 2011 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

ESPN has the Wednesday baseball package so they decided to do all the important games.

Plus, I think ESPN is sending crews to all four games while MLBN just shows local feeds for most games.

by Alex41592 on Sep 28, 2011 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

crews to all four? Crew number four is going to be, what, a college football crew?

by Josie Becker on Sep 28, 2011 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

shit!

thanks for reminding me, I got to catch a plane to Houston!

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 28, 2011 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Whoops

sending you an e-mail

by G.Scott on Sep 28, 2011 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Off the top of my head. The Monday crew, the Wednesday crew, the Sunday crew and a fourth crew with Karl Ravech could be done.

But, I’d love to see Brad Nessler try.

by Alex41592 on Sep 28, 2011 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Can MLBN show live look-ins of a game ESPN is airing?

by kinbote on Sep 28, 2011 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

sure

they’ll just use the local feed

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 28, 2011 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

I believe so. Though, I’m sure there’s some rules in there somewhere. Maybe they have to show ‘highlights’ instead of ‘live’. Maybe it won’t matter on the last day of the season.

by Alex41592 on Sep 28, 2011 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think they got a lot of negative feedback, such as my email that said, “just so you know, this is absolutely terrible.”

by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2011 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

What was the goal with that?

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by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2011 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

It was dumb, but like not an issue

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 28, 2011 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sure, but what was the goal? Someone had to have a reason to attempt this modification in the software.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2011 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

I wonder if Lookout Landing got mad that “optional” was in the Subject line.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2011 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Usability test said that people couldn’t figure out what the two different boxes were for?

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by regfairfield on Sep 28, 2011 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

and it went away once you started typing. I really don’t get the outrage. It’s not like the text said “drink rum”

by Josie Becker on Sep 28, 2011 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

It was annoying

but a totally valid attempt to improve the user interface for the other 80 percent.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 28, 2011 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

No outrage, it just seems pointless since as you say it went away when you started typing.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2011 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

delicous and smooth

Oakheart© rum. Drink it with a lady, and she’ll be running her fingers throurh your hair that you just washed with Head and Shoulders © shampoo.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 28, 2011 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Go Oakheart!

I hope they put another “article” up soon ;)

by Ivdown on Sep 28, 2011 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Most in-depth article at TBLA in months.

by fbihop on Sep 28, 2011 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

people got confused

with subject and comment when replying to people. I haven’t seen it here, but I’ve seen it elswhere. At the bottom of the page there is the same text, but to the right off the input fields, no room for that when replying I guess.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 28, 2011 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ah, thanks

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2011 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

an example

would be people only typing in the subject line, because they didn’t realize why there where 2 boxes.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 28, 2011 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

those people who got confused should have their genes removed from the pool for the good of future generations of humans

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 28, 2011 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

eh

if your first attempt to comment is through a reply to someone, I can easily see the confusion. There is nothing to explain to you that THIS site has a subject header on your comments. Who else even does that? I’ve spent enough time recently working on UI and talking to people who I would normally consider intelligent human beings, and then having them get confused by things that I thought should have been blatantly obvious, that I have mellowed on these things.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 28, 2011 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

and thus the fall of humanity is complete. Not by callousness, but by compassion and empathy our doom is sealed

/not really, just entertaining myself, I think your point is fair

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 28, 2011 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

its weird to me and probably most commentators here

but things that just seem intuitive to a lot of people on computers confuse the general populace so much. I’ve gone through the 5 stages to finally reach acceptance. It was a journey.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 28, 2011 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Then you discovered

you had the ability to get home whenever you wanted.

You just had to click you heals together and repeat the words.

“fuck this shit….fuck this shit…..fuck this shit.”

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 28, 2011 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

No one will read anything, no one will do anything but the defaults, if you give anyone an option they’ll get scared and give up.

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by regfairfield on Sep 28, 2011 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Then TBLA will survive the longest

because compassion and empathy were left by the wayside when Eric entered the room.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2011 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

we still have Hope and Joy, they are beaten and bloody and menaced by that bully Fear, but they are here

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 28, 2011 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

True story

/makes joke about a dead guy

by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2011 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

i think you made more than one yesterday

about different dead guys

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 28, 2011 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

My average per day had dipped under one. Needed a late run, a la Matt Kemp

by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2011 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

We just need someone to make an off-hand comment about Pez to get it started

by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2011 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

It still says Subject.

I think if they were to do anything like that, they should include an automatic header when a picture or gif is in the body of the comment, assuming no header has been manually entered.

by G.Scott on Sep 28, 2011 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Which I think proves my point

the confusion is that people don’t know why the heck there are two boxes on their first attempt.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 28, 2011 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

and as an extension: that clicking on the header will minimize a comment

by G.Scott on Sep 28, 2011 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was born with that knowledge

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2011 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think that makes you a duck

by G.Scott on Sep 28, 2011 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think you misspelled that

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 28, 2011 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Made the best Turkey meatballs ever last night

Three tricks

1) go slightly (and I mean slightly) heavier than your recipe calls for on the breadcrumbs. Too many breadcrumbs and you have a breadball, too few and the meatball dries out. Yeah, you heard me, breadcrumbs make for a moister meatball because they swell and hold liquid

2) If you remember one trick, remember this – mix your meatball mixture with forks, not your hands, and do not overwork the meat. The heat from your hands, overworking the meat, kneeding the meat…all result in dry, tough, meatballs (goes for meatloaf too)

3) Wet hands when shaping meatballs – minimizes friction and hand heat, little touch of water makes a smooth outside

Bonus tip – Medium high heat, cook the outsides until a very dark brown, you want a nice crust here

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 28, 2011 9:39 AM PDT reply actions  

noted

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 28, 2011 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

do not overwork the meat. The heat from your hands, overworking the meat, kneeding the meat…

This is sound advice in general.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 28, 2011 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I always use my hands

when I make meatballs and I use saltines rather than breadcrumbs. I make a cocktail meatball recipe that I’ll have to make for the gang sometime. Just need power for a crockpot to keep them warm. The sauce I use is addicting.

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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Sep 28, 2011 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

I use saltines

for my meatloaf

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by nolander on Sep 28, 2011 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

sounds delicious Marty – saltines are like seasoned breadcrumbs of a sort

my mom uses her hand too, to no ill effect

because I am a kneader of doughs, a bread man, I found I was killing my meatballs – the fork method has really worked to give a juicy turkey meatball

I do a version of a turkey meatball that also has pure pork fat ground into the mixture – that is a “secret” for another day. Porkiest turkey meatballs you can imagine

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 28, 2011 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I imagine that “don’t overwork the meat” along with your tip 3 should go a long way toward combating whatever ill effects body temperature may have. When making hamburger patties, I abide by “don’t overwork the meat as well” – overworking it dries out the patties.


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by David Young on Sep 28, 2011 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

so true for burgers

Mrs HJ has taken to checking the burgers to make sure I shaped them enough that they will not fall apart on the grill….I have over corrected in this regard

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 28, 2011 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Matt Kemp 40/40 fake odds

Kemp needs two HRs for 40/40 as we all know. He has done it one time out of 160 so far this year. So using past performance to predict future performance which is always bullet proof, he has a 0.625% of reaching 40/40. But if you adjust for park, pitcher (Joe Meatball Saunders) and motivation and then running the numbers on that I get a 45% chance of Kemp hitting two out tonight. HGT! #FortyFortyKemp

by Xeifrank on Sep 28, 2011 9:42 AM PDT reply actions  

Is this worth pondering over logically, or is it just pretty?

by berkowit28 on Sep 28, 2011 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

there is no LA there

so I can’t be bothered beyond noting that is resembles spaghetti with meatballs and sausages

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 28, 2011 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m detecting a distinct meatball theme to today’s proceedings.

by kinbote on Sep 28, 2011 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Tomorrow, Porky’s.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 28, 2011 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

lunch: meatball sandwich

I had to do something with all those tomatoes from the garden

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 28, 2011 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

I watched Ratatouille again over the weekend. It’s not great by Pixar standards.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 28, 2011 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

But don’t disagree strongly enough to form a well-researched argument.

by G.Scott on Sep 28, 2011 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Research you feelings

you know it to be true

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 28, 2011 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

yeah

other then Humma I don’t think he will get much support on that.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 28, 2011 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

I enjoyed it more than most films I have seen, but I have not seen the entire Pixar catalog to comment about comparisons

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 28, 2011 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Its better then Cars

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by nolander on Sep 28, 2011 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

but not better than The Cars

by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2011 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

my youth right there – love them

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 28, 2011 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

yeah, cars didn’t interest me…missed that and the sequel

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 28, 2011 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Even knowing it was Owen Wilson

I went into Cars blindly, drunk on Pixars previous successes. What a letdown.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 28, 2011 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Loved Cars.
Loved Toy Story 1-3
Loved Wall-E
Loved Ratatouille
Loved The Incredibles
Loved Finding Nemo
Loved Monsters Inc
Loved A Bugs Life
Up was depressing as shit

by G.Scott on Sep 28, 2011 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Up was great – god damn I wept like a little girl with a skinned knee during that first montage

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 28, 2011 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

It was so sad in the beginning that it lost me for the rest of the flick.

by G.Scott on Sep 28, 2011 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

it was beautiful, sad but beautiful

It made me remember to love my wife as much as I already do

when art does that, art works

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 28, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

when she took off the helmet, and her hair went poof. hit home

by Josie Becker on Sep 28, 2011 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Greatest beginning to a movie I’ve ever seen. I suspect the older you are the more you felt the weight of those few minutes. I may never have felt so much emotion as I felt during that montage from a movie. Even as i type this I feel like saying fuck this, leave work, pickup my wife from school ala Richard Gere, and whisk her a way to Costa Rica.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2011 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed

The montage was so excellent. If that doesn’t make you tear up, nothing on film will.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 28, 2011 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

I like how Pixar is all, “Hey, let’s do something in our children’s movie that will make EVERY ADULT IN THE THEATER CRY.”

by fbihop on Sep 28, 2011 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

And every time they watch it on video with their kids later too!


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 28, 2011 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pixar is 10.5/11.5 on the very good side of the ledger for me. (I still haven’t seen all of Up, but what I’ve seen was very very good). To steal from Beane Pitt, there are 11 movies, then 50 feet of crap and then Cars 2.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 28, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

can’t think of any other small studio with that kind of record. Even Weinstein has let me down more than that

by Josie Becker on Sep 28, 2011 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

There have been 12 Pixar features.

TS1, 2,3, Monsters Inc and Finding Nemo are all definitely better. I’d rank others ahead too, but certainly those 5. Being at best 6th out of 12 qualifies as “not great.”

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 28, 2011 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

thats a horrible way to rank things

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 28, 2011 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

You study humanities but teach math and see if you can rank things sensibly!

by G.Scott on Sep 28, 2011 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

So being 6th (in your mind)

Means it’s not great, even though the first 5 could be amazing, which they pretty much are? Interesting…

by Ivdown on Sep 28, 2011 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

“You said all the performances were magnificent so that means statistically, magnificent is average, so you were all average”

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by regfairfield on Sep 28, 2011 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

No. That is not what I said. I said it wasn’t great by Pixar standards.

James Loney is a great baseball player. Of the 6.6 or so billion people on this planet, he is better at baseball than 6.5995 billion of them. He is not great by MLB standards.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 28, 2011 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I never implied you weren't talking about just Pixar

I’m still saying that you look like you are saying because it is sixth it is not great, not that it is not great because it is not great. If this were going against other movies it might much higher, but clearly against those are 5 incredible movies, it would be 6th.

This is the logic you said in the post before.

For instance, going by team wins

1. 102 2. 100 3. 97 4. 96 5. 94 6. 92 7. 90 8.etc…

92 wins isn’t bad because it’s not 96, 96 is just even better.

by Ivdown on Sep 28, 2011 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

In a small enough group, say, playoff teams, 94 wins is not great.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 28, 2011 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Then you're really changing what the perception of great is then
"You said all the performances were magnificent so that means statistically, magnificent is average, so you were all average"

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by regfairfield on Sep 28, 2011 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions

by Ivdown on Sep 28, 2011 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

What are you even arguing here??

Nolij wrote (emphasis mine):

It’s not great by Pixar standards.
I think everyone agreed “Pixar standards” are incredibly high. And average, by Pixar standards, is still a good movie.


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by David Young on Sep 28, 2011 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm having a pointless debate of what great means

Even if it is by Pixar standards, 6th out of 12 movies would still be pretty great, because not only what i’ve already said, but the ones below it are still almost all very good movies.

by Ivdown on Sep 28, 2011 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

You are not arguing with him, you are arguing past him.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 28, 2011 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

That is no more a critique of what I have said when you repeat it than when reg wrote it.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 28, 2011 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love ratatouille

we have a similar dish called caponata

so summer good

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 28, 2011 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think I figured it out, but man that wasn’t worth it.

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by regfairfield on Sep 28, 2011 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

hope the brewers win tonight

don’t want them to have to deal with the phillies till the NLCS.

by shaqfor3 on Sep 28, 2011 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m definitely rooting for a Milwaukee title. Will be interesting to see Greinke on the biggest of stages.

by G.Scott on Sep 28, 2011 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

if they play the phillies

all he has to do is drill one of them in the ribs and he’s a success

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 28, 2011 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Beating a better team is easier in 5 games than in 7

by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2011 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

and easier again in 3 games rather than 5

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 28, 2011 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

I wonder

when the better team has Halladay and Lee, I would rather go 5 and hope you get 2 other guys or one or both of them to fumble on short rest

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 28, 2011 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bronson Arroyo now has the 17th season since 1875 with more home runs allowed than walks.

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by regfairfield on Sep 28, 2011 10:09 AM PDT reply actions  

maybe if he walked more guys they wouldn’t be so eager to swing.

by G.Scott on Sep 28, 2011 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

heard this

“he is always around the plate, don’t get cheated”

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 28, 2011 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

what's the opposite

of effectively wild?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 28, 2011 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

93 right down the middle

by kinbote on Sep 28, 2011 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

89 and “relies on command”.

by G.Scott on Sep 28, 2011 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ineffectively tame

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 28, 2011 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

General Manager Ned Colletti intimated Tuesday that the Dodgers could pursue a high-end free agent such as Prince Fielder or Albert Pujols this winter, saying he understands the value of adding a star attraction to appease an increasingly disgruntled fan base.

Colletti said he is more open to offering a long-term contract than he has been in the past. In his time with the Dodgers, he has signed only one player to a contract longer than three years: Juan Pierre.

OMG. I don’t like the sound of this, given who it’s coming from. He’ll give Prince Fielder
a million bucks per pound and the dude will fall apart on us. As a fan, I want a championship team, not just one player who will sell jerseys..

by Freddy V on Sep 28, 2011 10:28 AM PDT reply actions  

Meh, Miles’ glove was supposed to be used by Blake and Furcal.

by G.Scott on Sep 28, 2011 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

you all are going to be so moted when Uribe puts up this number next year

250/305/415 with 22 HRS

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 28, 2011 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

2.0 war

its happening

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 28, 2011 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

What Ned is saying about Uribe these days is similar to what he said about Andruw Jones. Wouldn’t shock me a bit if Juan Uribe never got another Dodger at bat.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2011 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Who can afford a Werth jersey after buying that marked up Strasburg jersey?

by G.Scott on Sep 28, 2011 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

just biding their time

before the Harper Jersey corners the market

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 28, 2011 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Saving my money for the kid with all that silly eye black

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 28, 2011 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

I imagine Harper stepping into the box against the Cardinals for his first MLB at bat and Yadier Molina saying, “Gotta be difficult to see the ball with all that shit on your face”. Harper pulls the eye black pen out of his back pocket and says, “I bought 100 of these, one for every base I’m gonna steal”.

by G.Scott on Sep 28, 2011 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Jose Reyes got a hit today

Then came out. He is hitting .3371.

Matt Kemp needs to go 12 for 12 to pass him.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2011 10:39 AM PDT reply actions  

Ryan Braun needs 3 hits tonight, either in 3 or 4 AB, to beat Jose Reyes for the batting title

by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2011 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Reyes, if he wins, would be the first Met ever to win the batting title.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2011 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

At first I was all NUH UH KEITH HERNANDEZ

Then I was all “oh yeah he did it with the Cardinals”

Keith Hernandez is a spitter

by G.Scott on Sep 28, 2011 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

You know, Matt may not have this

by Michael White on Sep 28, 2011 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

How great would it be for the Dodgers game to not only go extra innings, but last long enough so that Kemp gets 12 at-bats, and that his continually getting hits doesn’t affect the relative score of the game (i.e. if the Dodgers score, the D-Backs tie it, and we play on)?

by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2011 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

What if it means Jansen pitching two innings, striking out no one and losing the record?

by G.Scott on Sep 28, 2011 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Jansen pitching two innings, striking out no one

I don’t understand what these words mean together

by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2011 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Jansen pitching one innings, striking out two, no?

by G.Scott on Sep 28, 2011 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ely will pitch 9 innings in relief

by Michael White on Sep 28, 2011 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

it would be less improbably than 4+1, so yeah, it could happen

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 28, 2011 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

This might be the silliest comment Eric Stephen has ever made.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2011 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Man, lots of people on Twitter are not happy with Reyes. Kind of a puss move.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2011 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

in the old days, we wouldn’t know until tomorrows news paper and then just bitch about it at the watercooler

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 28, 2011 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

I didn’t even realize the Mets had a day game

by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2011 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ted Williams thinks it’s a bitch move

by keithc13 on Sep 28, 2011 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Today is the 70-year anniversary of the real 1941 MVP playing in the doubleheader in Philadelphia and saying none of this .39955 bullshit.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2011 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

The real MVP in 41 is correct.

by keithc13 on Sep 28, 2011 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

He did his job this week. Braun sat out Monday, Reyes didn’t.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2011 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Had Reyes stayed in for one more AB and made an out, Ryan Braun could have also passed him by going 2 for 2.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2011 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Culeeeeeeeeero. Culeeeeeeeeero.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 28, 2011 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wow, I completely missed the game yesterday

and didn’t even read a newspaper account. I say pitch Guerra 2 innings today

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Sep 28, 2011 10:55 AM PDT reply actions  

…to restore his confidence, like Torre used to do with Broxton. Right.

by berkowit28 on Sep 28, 2011 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

OK, OK. Forgot this dummy signal – /sarcasm

by berkowit28 on Sep 28, 2011 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Adam Dunn, hitting .159, is not in the starting lineup today. Will likely end short of qualifying for the batting title, ruining many future Baseball-Reference searches.

Dunn is at 496 PA

by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2011 11:04 AM PDT reply actions  

I really wanted us to sign him in the offseason.

Kinda glad we didn’t

by keithc13 on Sep 28, 2011 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dunn vs. Arroyo would be fun.

by kinbote on Sep 28, 2011 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve been watching him like a hawk to see him dip below .160. Was nice for it to finally happen. 0-3 with 3 ks I believe.

by kinbote on Sep 28, 2011 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

I just realized for the first time that a bookworm is an actual bug

by Josie Becker on Sep 28, 2011 11:05 AM PDT reply actions  

What if

OK, with the D’backs playing for real tonight, if Kemp should get his home runs it will mean more than if it were a “gimme”. Sure. But what if “plying for real”, trying harder, means that the D’backs intentionally walk Kemp to avcoid the possibility of a multi-run homer. That’s what teams do when they’re trying to win. That might lose Kemp his chance, such as it is. What then?

by berkowit28 on Sep 28, 2011 11:10 AM PDT reply actions  

we call them assholes

and hope some else hits a homer

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 28, 2011 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

they can walk him if the situation dictates and no one will be any the wiser. But if it’s two outs bases empty in the first and he gets an intentional pass, Joe Saunders needs thrown at when he bats.

by G.Scott on Sep 28, 2011 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Everyone gets thrown at, then Loney eventually pitches

by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2011 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is a meaningless game except for Kemp

So I’m cool with every dbacks hitter and pitcher taking a fastball to the ribs/back if they pitch around Kemp, lol. 81-80 is over .500!!!

by Ivdown on Sep 28, 2011 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

The implied question, exactly, is “Wouldn’t you have preferred then that [the D’backs had lost yesterday and] weren’t going to try to win tonight, even if that would cheapen Kemp’s achievement as a result?”

The emphasis not on the D’backs losing yesterday. which can be taken for granted, but the not trying to win tonight part.

by berkowit28 on Sep 28, 2011 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

F you, 11:30 meeting.

by G.Scott on Sep 28, 2011 11:14 AM PDT reply actions  

People who don’t eat lunch shouldn’t be allowed to schedule meetings.

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by regfairfield on Sep 28, 2011 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

people on the east coast

should also not be allowed to schedule meetings

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 28, 2011 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Long before apocalyptic movies/books were the thing (40 years ago) I read a book that basically split the country along the Mississippi due to an outbreak with those infected on the East side of the great river. Unlike today’s tired story, the dead people stayed dead. It seemed fitting to me at the time that the West Coast was the right coast.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2011 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

World War Z(zombies)

has the USA condensing itself to the west of the rockies for a time while gathering strength to purge the zombie menace.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 28, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

they’re making a movie of that, with Brad Pitt I think

by Josie Becker on Sep 28, 2011 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

It barely resembles the book

so I’m very meh on it. The book is basically an oral history, a collection of stories telling the tale from the beginning to the end, and the movie sounds like some dumb action movie with Pitt “racing against time”.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 28, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

its a book that doesn't really

make sense as a movie. Would work better as a miniseries.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 28, 2011 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

If only there were a recent example of an unfilmable book without a conventional narrative adapted into a movie starring Brad Pitt.

If such a movie existed, I might be tempted to give World War Z the benefit of the doubt.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Sep 28, 2011 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I'm not saying it will be a bad movie

well I did call it stupid. Or did I? Anyways, it’ll probably gripping and stuff, but piss off anyone who wanted them to even pretend to adapt the book and not just use the name and slap it on a movie about zombies.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 28, 2011 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

piss off anyone who wanted them to even pretend to adapt the book

I’ve read the buzz, too. My advice is to wait for the movie.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Sep 28, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

You are right

but, I’ve been hurt too many times.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 28, 2011 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

And, when the movie is released, this one may not be what you’re hoping for. But still, wait for the movie.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Sep 28, 2011 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

show us on the doll

where Hollywood touched you.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 28, 2011 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

you're a mad man sir

with an insane dream!

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 28, 2011 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Heh

rec’d


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 28, 2011 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, they are filming it now.

by fbihop on Sep 28, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Figging Rod Argent, I told him to tell her no, but she was not there, because it was the time of the season for loving.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2011 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Those are the only three Zombies songs anybody knows.

Hell, those are the only three Zombies songs I know, and I regularly listen to the 18-or-so-track Zombies Greatest Hits.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Sep 28, 2011 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

The latter

was known as the beer drinking song.

Do-do-dum AHHHH do-do-dum AHHHH


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 28, 2011 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Who’s your daddy?

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 28, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Odessey & Oracle is better than any Beatles record. And I love the Beatles.

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by Pure Azure on Sep 28, 2011 2:07 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

In 1967, The Zombies signed to CBS Records, for whom they recorded the album Odessey and Oracle. (The word odyssey was misspelled by cover designers.) Because the band’s budget could not cover session musicians, they used a Mellotron, a device designed to imitate orchestral sections.1

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by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Heh

Always thought the misspelling was intentional, like some kind of psychedelic creation.

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by Pure Azure on Sep 28, 2011 2:15 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Writing about zombies must be the laziest form of writing these days. Unless it is Vampires and Werewolves. I’m going to blame Stephen King. and Charlton Heston. The human tolerance for having the same story drilled back to them over and fucking over makes me want to retch.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Read world war z

and you will change your tune. It takes a fairly different tact to it.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 28, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

not your typical "bunch of people stuck in a remote location trying to survive" story
The interviews chart a decade-long war against zombies from the view point of many different people of various nationalities. The personal accounts also describe the changing religious, geo-political, and environmental aftermath of the Zombie War.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 28, 2011 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

laziest form of writing these days.

Certain sports columnists spring to mind.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 28, 2011 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree. I’ve been pissed at your 11:30 meeting for a couple of hours now.

by keithc13 on Sep 28, 2011 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

11:30 isn't noon

noon meetings suck. and I scheduled one last Friday. Doubley bad. I also didn’t bring lunch in, but I did arrange for a fruit platter

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Sep 28, 2011 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

I hate meetings where lunch is brought in. Working lunches piss me off. I can’t stand listening to a room full of people eating and talking with their mouths full.

by Michael White on Sep 28, 2011 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Take it to the Hate Thread!

:)

by keithc13 on Sep 28, 2011 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

This was a project kickoff meeting

with an outside vendor. It’s really hard to schedule a meeting with a dozen people without making it a lunch meeting

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Sep 28, 2011 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

correct

and the rest of you get over it

if you want noon to be a sacred hour, get a union job

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 28, 2011 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

I have teams working across 5 time zones, meeting times are always bad for someone…I try and make sure that I move around the “this time sucks” so that no one is ever truly happy

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 28, 2011 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm dealing with a development team in India on one project

Lots of 9 am meetings which are 9 pm for them.

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Sep 28, 2011 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

right

They’ve been good about not asking me to make them earlier

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Sep 28, 2011 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

does not register as “late” to them

they probably start their day around noon

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 28, 2011 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Plus accents are hilarious

I’ve got Indians on one side and my in-house developers are Russian. It makes for interesting conversations.

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Sep 28, 2011 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

call me 9 years from now

you might be like “I just wish everyone would shut the fuck up so I can hear myself think!”

but yeah, working with India is mostly a gas

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 28, 2011 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

I work with Indian call centers

Their mannerisms and accents can be funny.

by Ivdown on Sep 28, 2011 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

You were the guy watching Outsourced?

by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2011 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it was me

For at least 5-7 episodes. I wish my guys were as funny as some of the people on there (which might tell you something), my guys are just pushy, kind of annoying, and always “having customer on line”. Oye.

by Ivdown on Sep 28, 2011 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Agenda – I has it.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 28, 2011 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Lots of

What? and Repeat Please.

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Sep 28, 2011 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

i had one

but i worked the night shift

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 28, 2011 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

does 11:30-12:30 count?

by G.Scott on Sep 28, 2011 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

12:30 for lunch is a luxury

I have a lunch meeting 3 of the 5 days this week

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Sep 28, 2011 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

The NFL

makes sure to schedule a game in London every year. The Bills make sure to schedule a game in Toronto. MLB makes sure to schedule a game in Japan every year.

All but one of these makes sense.

by Josie Becker on Sep 28, 2011 11:21 AM PDT reply actions  

If it makes you feel any better, it makes people watch the A’s and Mariners for once.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2011 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

They all make sense. I just can’t figure out why the NHL doesn’t play a game in Northern Mexico.

by G.Scott on Sep 28, 2011 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

A perception of a general lack of refrigeration?

by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2011 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

I always forget about the NFL’s secret following in Englad, probably because it doesn’t make any sense to me. The NHL needs to play a game in Sweden

by Josie Becker on Sep 28, 2011 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Do the English think sending Manchester over here doesn’t make sense?

Probably yeah.

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by regfairfield on Sep 28, 2011 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

they’re like, “Oi, whatda the Yanks what with a bloody football team. They won’t know what to do with em. Oh, whyeye”

But then they’re told that a fringe cable channel and ESPN at 4am show EPL matches, and it all makes sense.

by Josie Becker on Sep 28, 2011 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Football is awesome, that’s the logic behind there being a following in England.

by Michael White on Sep 28, 2011 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

They even carry some NFL games live on BBC Sports Radio now! I found that out when they made an announcement to that effect on the last cricket match I was listening to. (I don’t think it’s available in North America on the internet, like England-based international cricket matches, but it is carried live on BBC Radio 5 in Britain.)

by berkowit28 on Sep 28, 2011 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

: )

I found out yesterday the TuneIn Radio app for the iphone has licence to stream all the BBC Radio channels. I was listen to yesterday’s Champions League and N-power Championship action on BBC Radio 5 through my phone. It was sooooo cool!

by Josie Becker on Sep 28, 2011 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Really?? That means I’ll be able to listen to all the international cricket matches which England play overseas between now and next June when the English season starts again. BBC does not have the rights to broadcast those worldwide on the internet because the other countries where the games are actually played own all broadcast rights. (Not that they ever do anything with radio rights, but they make you pay a fortune if you want to watch the TV versions on your computer. I sometimes settle for the illegal free streaming, but that gets so iffy, always dropping out and more annoyingly freezing and getting overlaid with rogue radio signals playing commercials very, very loudly that I usually just end up closing the streams.) I wonder whether these radio rights will apply to the games played abroad – I bet not.

by berkowit28 on Sep 28, 2011 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

I listened to Manchester City playing in Munich through that app on my phone yesterday, I don’t know how the rights are worked out

by Josie Becker on Sep 28, 2011 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

I couldn’t imagine listening to a soccer game (no video). But I suppose Europeans would say the same about baseball.

by Xeifrank on Sep 28, 2011 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ya, even here in the States, non-baseball fans can’t believe I enjoy listening to baseball games on radio.

by Michael White on Sep 28, 2011 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

like baseball, it all depends on the announcer. And there a couple games happening, so there were a bunch of times when they’d cut to someone announcing a goal in another game. It was cool

by Josie Becker on Sep 28, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sky has games

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 28, 2011 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

They like football

like parents like kids. Rugby → football

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by nolander on Sep 28, 2011 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

All three of those cultures (Canada, Japan, UK) suffer to some extent American penis envy, they all want to be us to some large degree

the rest of the planet is a little more GFY

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 28, 2011 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

oddly, the UK only has American envy because their johnson got cut off after WWII. It’s like they have an empire ghost limb

by Josie Becker on Sep 28, 2011 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

they want to be important

they are like an annoying little brother always asking us “what should we do next?”

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 28, 2011 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

and yes, all of my comments are merely fucking with you

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 28, 2011 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

oh, you’re one of my favorites, you don’t need to check in with me, we’re good : )

by Josie Becker on Sep 28, 2011 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

lmao

Is that the one where he runs over the queen? Great episode.

by Ivdown on Sep 28, 2011 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

yes

and when they’re taking him away, he drops this gem.

America Rules!! Our Beatles are WAY better than your precious Rolling Stones!

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 28, 2011 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

There hasn't been talks of the NBA here in awhile, I guess people don't care what's going on

But with no movement in these meetings, I have to admit I’m dying just a little inside.

No Kobe fallaways
No Lebron-DWade running a fastbreak
No D-Rose ball skills..

SIGH

by Julio Nievas on Sep 28, 2011 11:26 AM PDT reply actions  

No Stu Lantz. That will get it done.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 28, 2011 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

[high five]

And no Billly Mac, or Forehead/Bahamian

by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2011 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

You have a point

Lakers announcers – TV and radio – will hit a new low.

by Julio Nievas on Sep 28, 2011 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

no NBA

and I still won’t see you at the pyramid i bet.

by delias man on Sep 28, 2011 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m going to be there on October 9

Durant, Westbrook, and John Wall are going to play

by Julio Nievas on Sep 28, 2011 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

I care

it’s gonna suck not having a real rooting interest any major sport being played.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 28, 2011 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

I care

And I am sad.

Should we cling to the bright side and note that meetings will continue on Saturday with more participants (specifially more owners and more high profile stars.)

by Michael White on Sep 28, 2011 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

I've read the biggest hurdle is the topic on guaranteed contracts

What’s your opinion on this Mike?

I honestly don’t have one. Both sides have some solid arguments, but if the owners somehow get a hard cap, it will be a big loss for the players. But a player’s contract structured similar to the NFL’s may be what’s needed to balance the nBA.

by Julio Nievas on Sep 28, 2011 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

I thought it was the hard cap?

though I heard the owners are starting to back off that

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 28, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

No hard cap, Contracts will stay guaranteed. Owners have already backed off hard cap. They are just negotiating the split between players and owners on BRI. Players have already come down to 54% (from 57%) and have hinted they will come down more. Not sure if the magic number is 50/50, but I really think that’s the only issue that needs to be settled.

by Michael White on Sep 28, 2011 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Magic number is 32

by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2011 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

TMBG

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by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2011 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Banking question

Do free, no-strings-attached checking accounts still exist? Like with no minimum balance or direct deposit.

by silverwidow on Sep 28, 2011 11:29 AM PDT reply actions  

My Chase one is free

the string is having direct deposit, which I don’t know why anyone even asks about that nowadays

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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Sep 28, 2011 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Because they don’t have jobs.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 28, 2011 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Stretch

Hawk Harrelson signed a four-year extension with the White Sox

by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2011 11:38 AM PDT reply actions  

they gave him

Ozzie’s money

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 28, 2011 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Signing of the year already.

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by regfairfield on Sep 28, 2011 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

He not gone.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 28, 2011 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

mike

Big West commish said in paper yesterday….
never say never on BW-WCC merger

by delias man on Sep 28, 2011 11:40 AM PDT reply actions  

I’d find that awesome. Unfortunately, Gonzaga’s as big of a pain in the ass as Texas and they get all worried about RPI and shit.

by Michael White on Sep 28, 2011 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

the big money private schools would crush these CSU's

article was intimating that an eventual WAC melt down could be great because a bunch of schools would go the BYU/Hawaii route.

by delias man on Sep 28, 2011 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

UNLV/Fresno/Reno, etc

would potentially come back home to the Big West in order to save money on travel if they join C-USA or something like that. A lot has to happen, but it sounds fun.

by delias man on Sep 28, 2011 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Football should really do it’s own thing, and schools should just stick with (pretty much) existing conferences for all the other sports.

by Michael White on Sep 28, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

how will this effect college baseball

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 28, 2011 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

The WCC plays baseball too. Pepperdine was quite good for a while.

by Michael White on Sep 28, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks to Randy Wolf

by G.Scott on Sep 28, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good history there

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by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Randy wolf is 7th and Dan Haren 9th on the all-time MLB hits leaderboard for players who attended Pepperdine. #1 is Chad Kreuter’s 593 MLB hits.

by G.Scott on Sep 28, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d put Haren and Wolf’s total wins against any other Christian based college in this country.

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by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

have to plead ignorance to the fact USC is run by priests.

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by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2011 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep, historically Methodist.

by G.Scott on Sep 28, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

But not Lutheran. At least not from the late 1400s – early 1500s.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Sep 28, 2011 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

though I don’t think you’re required to attend services anymore

by G.Scott on Sep 28, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

as far as I know, the Methodists no longer have any association with the school

by Josie Becker on Sep 28, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Criminy

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by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2011 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought it was more recent than that

by G.Scott on Sep 28, 2011 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dallas Braden and Mark DeRosa will serve as guest analysts for MLB Network during the postseason. I hope Braden gets to talk about A-Rod.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2011 11:42 AM PDT reply actions  

LOL

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 28, 2011 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

We could get him cheap!

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Sep 28, 2011 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Milton Bradley lives north of the boulevard? Omigod, gag me with a spoon!


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 28, 2011 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m a fan of Joan Jett’s signature songs but really, the HOF?

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by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2011 11:49 AM PDT reply actions  

Runaways FTW

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Sep 28, 2011 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Is there a hall of fame that less people care about than the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame?

by fbihop on Sep 28, 2011 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

1/8th of the UFC Hall of Fame is the guy from Tapout.

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by regfairfield on Sep 28, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Don’t know, but it is one reason why I’ll visit Cleveland some day.

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by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2011 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve been there. It’s a cool museum. The enshrinees are a strange mix though to be sure.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 28, 2011 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pro Football HOF

They let ANYBODY in there. (no Tim Brown jokes please)

by delias man on Sep 28, 2011 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m glad that they finally inducted Art Monk.

by fbihop on Sep 28, 2011 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Can we agree that the MLB HOF may be the most select HOF?

If Bagwell can’t make it in on the first ballot, there are some picky ass bastards.

by Ivdown on Sep 28, 2011 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

i'm gonna laugh

if Maddux doesn’t get in uniamously

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 28, 2011 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

He won't

And it will be bullshit

by Ivdown on Sep 28, 2011 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

No chance

If anyone has a chance, it’s Maddux. But he won’t.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2011 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah

i meant to write “when” instead of “if”

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 28, 2011 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

There really should be

a giant beer mug there too

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Sep 28, 2011 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

They must have cropped out

the Dennny’s sponsorship. Has there ever been a better sponsorship then Denny’s sponsoring the PBA tour?

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 28, 2011 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was actually kind of humorous to read the rest of the game chat

this morning after having watched the outcome last night.

The only comment I didn’t see that I expected to find was complaining about Sellers being used to PH but not staying in defensively for Miles. Even so, if McDonald’s ball is pulled about 1 inch more, it hits Miles squarer, stays in front of him and he likely throws him out to end the game. Baseball is a funny game.

Also surprised that there wasn’t more complaining about bringing Guerra in for the third straight game, in what was more or less a meaningless game, instead of never getting in up in the first place. Gibson lived and died (and was later reborn like, well, a phoenix) with Owings; Mattingly should have been willing to live or die with Hawksworth.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 28, 2011 12:12 PM PDT reply actions  

I think since Guerra had already warmed up in the top of the 10th (when it was 2-1, 3-1, and 4-1), it wasn’t an extra large leap to bring him in once the tying run was up.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 28, 2011 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

instead of never getting in up in the first place

I am unclearly arguing that he should have been given the day off no matter what.

Yes, once they had committed to getting him up, it’s not a stretch.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 28, 2011 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

The ball was hit to the center of Miles, and he moved to make it an OLE play. His bad.

by G.Scott on Sep 28, 2011 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

He also cost Jansen a hit too on a sharply hit ball that Casey Blake or Justin Sellers makes with ease. I just assumed he was trying to help Jansen’s K/9.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 28, 2011 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

When I look at

this replay, maybe it is just an unlucky carom. Doesn’t looked ole-d to me though.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 28, 2011 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

instead of staying squared up to a one-hop line drive, he turned his body open and put his glove near his body, creating a more in-between hop rather than just picking the short hop. That’s bad juju.

by G.Scott on Sep 28, 2011 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

(click pic to enlarge in a new window/tab)

I think that ball was coming up in front of him far enough that he was never going to get a short hop. If you reach too far in front of you, you stopped being squared up too. Also the ball was hit sharply enough that it was totally a reaction play, part of why 3B is hard to play, a lot harder than RF anyway.

In this pic, the ball is already coming off the infield.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 28, 2011 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

firewalled. I’ll try to remember to take a look later, though at this point I’m not sure it matters all that much either way.

by G.Scott on Sep 28, 2011 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is is wrong for me to hope

that Brian Sabean is the guy that give Jimmy Rollins the five years that he’s looking for, just because I want him to be the next addition to the San Francisco shortstop graveyard?


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 28, 2011 12:52 PM PDT reply actions  

marriage made in hell

so let it be done!

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 28, 2011 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

no

its natural

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 28, 2011 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ha. From a Joe Posnanski chat earlier today on SI.com:

Comment From dave
Is there any way to speed up the Dodgers sale, so a new owner can…you know…invest in the team?
Joe: I’m for using the National Guard.

He also says if he had an NL MVP vote he’d go with Kemp over Braun. And a poll there showed most of the readers (65%) said Kemp should win it.

by fbihop on Sep 28, 2011 12:53 PM PDT reply actions  

Of course, he also seems to love Kemp’s defense.

by fbihop on Sep 28, 2011 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Even if Kemp is a below-average CF, he is still a CF, unlike that failed-3B cum LF in Milwaukee. Kemp’s UZR this year is -4.4, FWIW.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 28, 2011 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, if he mentioned that Kemp plays a tougher defensive POSITION, but he just kept saying, “Defense.”

I don’t think that Kemp is horrible, but he isn’t great either. Probably somewhere in the middle of all CFs in the NL.

by fbihop on Sep 28, 2011 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

A while back, we got into a discussion about Trayvon Robinson’s defense (this was when he was still Dodger property). The takeaway, if I remember correctly, is that he could be either an average-ish CF or a very, very good LF, and either way it would be a wash — either due to the increased value at CF or the increased quality of play in LF.

I think Kemp figures right into that. The trouble with Kemp in CF is that the Dodgers have a better option for CF defense (Gwynn), and can shift the other two players in such a way that they can increase the quality of play in the outfield across the board. But that fact is not the voters’ problem. Kemp provides value as a defender, whether it is in CF or in RF.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Sep 28, 2011 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

This assumes someone moving from CF to RF can still get reads and routes on balls hit to RF. Not every CF moving to the corners all of the sudden becomes an above average corner outfielder. Logic may make one think so but not sure it plays out that way in the diamond. One only has to look at the work that Vernon Wells and Tori Hunter have done since moving from CF to the corners, while it seems like having 3 CF is great, not sure anyone would say Hunter and Wells have played above average defense this year.

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by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Do they get dinged

by Bourjos catching every ball hit to the OF?

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by nolander on Sep 28, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t know, just subjectively they were not impressive to me.

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by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have no idea what the metrics say and won’t know if they are any good or not until 2013. Who the fuck can wait that long to serve up an opinion.

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by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2011 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wells sucks

Torrii is aight imho. How Wells ever played CF is a mystery, he just looks slow.

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by nolander on Sep 28, 2011 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

He was fast once, he aged quickly. at the age of 24 you’d have been hard pressed to find a better young center fielder.

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by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2011 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

why didn’t the director stop the taping when they saw the stickers? or edit them out bef9ore filming

by G.Scott on Sep 28, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because he’s a director on Two and a Half Men and so probably not very good?

by fbihop on Sep 28, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Martin Luther

so I have been ruminating on this quote from Luther of late

“Reason is a whore, the greatest enemy that faith has.”

and I keep on coming back to this sounds like the discourse around moneyball and advanced metrics, Martin Luther is Bill Plaschke

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 28, 2011 1:03 PM PDT reply actions  

And it’s typically didactic fearmongering. Sort of like a pre-Renaissance way of saying “if you use logic, the terrorists win.”

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 28, 2011 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh Please

Martin Luther isn’t half the asshole that Sir Thomas More is.

What a difference a generation makes. Usta be that “A Man for All Seasons” was about the courage of standing up for one’s convictions and speaking the truth to power. Now, “A Man for All Seasons” is about a religious nutjob who would rather get executed and see his family become paupers than allow somebody else to seek happiness in his personal, private relationship.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Sep 28, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

if you really want to think More an ass, read Wolf Hall

loved it, and her take on Cromwell

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 28, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I do like that this board is as likely to get into a debate of “Biggest Asshole: Martin Luther or Sir Thomas More” as it is to get into “Biggest Asshole: AJ Pierzynski or (say) Barry Bonds.”

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Sep 28, 2011 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

me too

and More and Luther would have hated each other just as much as AJ and Barry

4 pillars of mutual loathing and assholeness

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 28, 2011 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

But AJ Pierzynski King, Jr. would have to be a good guy of legendary status.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 28, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

the times

she is a changin

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 28, 2011 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

pre-Renaissance?

Bwah?

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness

by Maddz on Sep 28, 2011 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

My brain was thinking “early Renaissance” and my fingers translated “early” to “pre-.” Mea culpa.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 28, 2011 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dude, been there before.

by G.Scott on Sep 28, 2011 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

But Martin Luther was like 1400, and the Renaissance was 1300-1600ish, so he was right smack dab in the middle of the Renaissance.

I think the most important thing to take away from the quote is this: He ain’t lyin’

by G.Scott on Sep 28, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

martin luther was like mid 1500s

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by nolander on Sep 28, 2011 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

ok early 1500s

slash late 1400s

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by nolander on Sep 28, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

what’s a century amongst friends

by G.Scott on Sep 28, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Since we were talking about it earlier

On BBC Radio 5, after broadcasting a soccer match, they’re broadcasting the Giants v Rockies season closer. No idea why.

by Josie Becker on Sep 28, 2011 1:05 PM PDT reply actions  

and

the BBC has a whole radio station just for books on tape. I love this country, have I mentioned that?

by Josie Becker on Sep 28, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

unless you are a long distance trucker, pick up the book you limeys

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 28, 2011 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think books on tape are a great idea for any commuter

by Josie Becker on Sep 28, 2011 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

sure

just not on the radio

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by nolander on Sep 28, 2011 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

it saves you having to purchase them, and they’re expensive!

by Josie Becker on Sep 28, 2011 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m a big fan of books on tape. HJ is not always right, just most of the time. He must not know the pleasure of having a book read to him while he’s making his turkey meatballs.

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by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2011 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

that is what Mrs HJ is for!

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 28, 2011 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Damn, books on tape sounds so antiquated.

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by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2011 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

books on CD doesn’t sound right, and books on mp3 is just silly

by Josie Becker on Sep 28, 2011 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

they shouldn’t be called books on tape anyway. they’re on tape, they are no longer books. Audio Novels is more accurate.

by G.Scott on Sep 28, 2011 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

audio stories

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by nolander on Sep 28, 2011 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

thank you. my brain said stories, my fingers said novels. stupid fingers.

by G.Scott on Sep 28, 2011 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

The problem with that is that it does not imply the story came from a book. I could see a future / past where you have an audio story that did not originate in text form. Those tribes who have an auditory history for example.

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by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can't do audio books

I can’t pay attention like I do reading them

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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Sep 28, 2011 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think Highway Safety approves.

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by regfairfield on Sep 28, 2011 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

There are some books I have already read

that I want to check out the audio book for. some of them have really fantastic voice casts.

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by nolander on Sep 28, 2011 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ball Four was awesome with Mickey Mantle doing his own lines.

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by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2011 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

You try filling up five stations worth of programming.

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by regfairfield on Sep 28, 2011 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Look what it did to ESPN

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 28, 2011 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love it

cept there’s 6, and three of them have bonus stations, and only two are for sport, the two fives. I’m just shocked with all the baseball available, you go with Giants v. Rockies?

by Josie Becker on Sep 28, 2011 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

“We’ll give you a pint for the rights to broadcast this game”

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by regfairfield on Sep 28, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

they’ll have to throw in some bangers and mash

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by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 28, 2011 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

things you'll never have to know

BBC Radio 5 extra and MLB Gameday Audio both have the Giants v Colorado game.

It’s better listening the BBC stream because 1) it’s about five seconds closer to real time and 2) no commercials means between innings two Brits debate the state of baseball. And they just used the phrase SABREmaticians

by Josie Becker on Sep 28, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

and they just compared the Yankees to Chelsea, brilliant

by Josie Becker on Sep 28, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

That seems a silly comp, but I’m ok with it because I do not like Chelsea.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 28, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

it’s the “won a bunch, getting older, who’s there to fill in the gaps” comparison

by Josie Becker on Sep 28, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sounds reasonably valid, while ignoring the “being a top team virtually every year for 110 years running” element. And Robbie Cano, Mark Teixeira, Ivan Nova, Brett Gardner…

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 28, 2011 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

it’s not a forever and ever comparison, really there’s no EPL team that fits the Yankees perfectly, since ManU and Liverpool split that role

by Josie Becker on Sep 28, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Right. They’re Yankees-Red Sox, if you give the Sox 6 or 7 of the Yankees’ titles.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 28, 2011 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh and Gardner was the counterargument, that the Yankees did need to go after Crawford cause they had him, they are developing players, yada yada

by Josie Becker on Sep 28, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

hah louie had a jamie moyer joke

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 28, 2011 1:21 PM PDT reply actions  

was it “brb I gotta go take a Jamie Moyer”

by G.Scott on Sep 28, 2011 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

i love reading comments in news articles i read. Wow there are some super haters out there!

by delias man on Sep 28, 2011 1:36 PM PDT reply actions  

The Onion is the best

Historians Politely Remind Nation To Check What’s Happened In Past Before Making Any Big Decisions:

“It’s actually pretty simple: We just have to ask ourselves if people doing the same thing in the past caused something bad to happen,” Collins continued. “Did the thing we’re thinking of doing make people upset? Did it start a war? If it did, then we might want to think about not doing it.”
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In addition, Collins carefully explained that if a past decision proved to be favorable—if, for example, it led to increased employment, caused fewer deaths, or made lots of people feel good inside— then the nation should consider following through with the same decision now.

by fbihop on Sep 28, 2011 1:58 PM PDT reply actions  

Area man nods knowingly to mechanic. (I am area man.)

by kinbote on Sep 28, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Giants are losing 4-0, on fan appreciation day. Apparently they got a decent turnout, which amuses me

by Josie Becker on Sep 28, 2011 1:59 PM PDT reply actions  

Found my (not all that) old 7th grade yearbook in the closet last night and went over the top 10 lists. #1 song was Pretty Fly (For a White Guy) and the #10 movie was Player’s Club

by G.Scott on Sep 28, 2011 2:00 PM PDT reply actions  

The Offspring was a fun band.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 28, 2011 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Uno dos tres cuatro cinco cinco seis.

by fbihop on Sep 28, 2011 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Awesome

Watching Around the Horn, and Cowlishaw just accidentally called the Red Sox the “Rod Sex.” Does he secretly have a crush on our catcher?

by The Dude Abides on Sep 28, 2011 2:05 PM PDT reply actions  

Yeah, Plaschke’s on today. Gonna quit watching.

by The Dude Abides on Sep 28, 2011 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

At least Mariotti isn’t on there anymore!

by fbihop on Sep 28, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

really?

i used to watch all the time, have not in about a year.

by delias man on Sep 28, 2011 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mariotti keeps getting arrested

for domestic abuse and stalking. He’s the Milton Bradley of Around the Horn.

by The Dude Abides on Sep 28, 2011 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I accidently saw part of the show with LeBetard’s dad or something. My goodness . . .

by kinbote on Sep 28, 2011 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

can i email someone to do my football pool picks this week? i really suck at this.

by delias man on Sep 28, 2011 2:10 PM PDT reply actions  

Bet big on the Texans

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 28, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

You going to do this one game at a time spread out over a 24 hour period so he has to look for in all the new threads Eric has planned for us?

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2011 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

we should draw lots

and take turns making picks. Make him really work to find them.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 28, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Juan Pierre makes the last out of the White Sox season

Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.

by Pure Azure on Sep 28, 2011 2:12 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

I’d hate to be the White Sox blogger who advocated signing Adam Dunn.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

What male can resist a swag bag

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Touch my swag?
Wish you could.
I look fly
I look good.

by G.Scott on Sep 28, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why’s it gotta be for a Thursday and Friday?

by G.Scott on Sep 28, 2011 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because they have no trouble getting customers on Sat/Sun? Just a wild guess

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, I know. Wonder what Saturday prices are

by G.Scott on Sep 28, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Two of the worst contracts in baseball history originated with the Blue Jays, yet the new GM was able to move both those deals and not only move the contracts but make his team better. Damn impressive.

How many bad contracts can the White Sox handle? Uribe would look so sweet on that team.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2011 2:25 PM PDT reply actions  

You can never go home

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 28, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don’t we have numerous US Men’s National Team’s. I’m going to assume this is about badminton until instructed otherwise.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Sep 28, 2011 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

tiddlywinks

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 28, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

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SP 44
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