Dodgers Week 27 In Review: Rising In Phoenix
Sure, it wasn't a full week, but thanks to the MLB schedule opening on a Thursday we ended on a Wednesday. The Dodgers won two of their three games in Arizona, nearly sweeping the NL West champs. The Dodgers ended their season by winning 10 of their final 11 series, and went 25-10 to finish with a winning record.
Dodger Batter of the Week: It seems Matt Kemp is the obvious choice here, as he ended his MVP-worthy campaign with two home runs and six runs batted in. But he splits the final weekly award with Jamey Carroll, who had five hits in seven at-bats, and Dee Gordon, who had a 7-for-14 series and scored four runs.
Dodger Pitcher of the Week: This award gets split as well, as all three Dodgers starters put up zeroes in Phoenix. Ted Lilly (seven innings), Hiroki Kuroda (six innings), and Dana Eveland (5 2/3 innings) are all worthy.
Clayton Kershaw, who last pitched Sunday, was the last Dodgers starting pitcher to allow a run in 2011.
Week 27 Record: 2-1
17 runs scored (5.67 per game)
14 runs allowed (4.67 per game)
.588 pythagorean winning percentage
Season Record: 82-79
644 runs scored (4.00 per game)
612 runs allowed (3.80 per game)
.523 pythagorean winning percentage (84-77)
Earned & Unearned: For the second time this season, a Dodgers relief pitcher allowed a pair of runs that were charged as unearned runs to the team, but earned runs for the pitcher. Just like on June 13 with Matt Guerrier, Javy Guerra on Tuesday allowed the final two runs of a six-run ninth inning, all of which scored after an error with two outs. Guerra only faced two batters, and allowed a walk and a home run, so his ledger shows two earned runs while those runs were unearned for the Dodgers, ruining Excel spreadsheets everywhere. The rule in question is MLB rule 10.16(i):
When pitchers are changed during an inning, the relief pitcher shall not have the benefit of previous chances for outs not accepted in determining earned runs.
Rule 10.16(i) Comment: It is the intent of Rule 10.16(i) to charge a relief pitcher with earned runs for which such relief pitcher is solely responsible. In some instances, runs charged as earned against the relief pitcher can be charged as unearned against the team.
Game Results:
- Monday: Dodgers 4, Diamondbacks 2
- Tuesday: Diamondbacks 7, Dodgers 6
- Wednesday: Dodgers 7, Diamondbacks 5
Previous Weeks In Review: Week 1 | Week 2 | Week 3 | Week 4 | Week 5 | Week 6 | Week 7 | Week 8 | Week 9 | Week 10 | Week 11 | Week 12 | Week 13 | Week 14 | Week 15 | Week 16 | Week 17 | Week 18 | Week 19 | Week 20 | Week 21 | Week 22 | Week 23 | Week 24 | Week 25 | Week 26
Week 27 Stats
| Player | PA | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | BB | SB/CS | BA/OBP/SLG | OPS |
| Carroll | 8 | 7 | 1 | 5 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0/0 | .714/.750/1.000 | 1.750 |
| Kemp | 14 | 13 | 3 | 4 | 1 | 0 | 2 | 6 | 0 | 0/0 | .308/.357/.846 | 1.203 |
| Gordon | 14 | 14 | 4 | 7 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 1/0 | .500/.500/.643 | 1.143 |
| Loney | 13 | 13 | 3 | 4 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 2 | 0 | 0/0 | .308/.308/.615 | .923 |
| Sands | 13 | 11 | 3 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0/0 | .273/.333/.273 | .606 |
| Barajas | 7 | 7 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0/0 | .143/.143/.143 | .286 |
| Miles | 9 | 6 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0/1 | .000/.250/.000 | .250 |
| Rivera | 13 | 11 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0/0 | .000/.077/.000 | .077 |
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| Ellis | 6 | 5 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0/0 | .400/.500/.800 | 1.300 |
| Sellers | 9 | 8 | 1 | 3 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 1 | 0/0 | .375/.444/.625 | 1.069 |
| Gwynn | 2 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0/0 | .000/.000/.000 | .000 |
| Oeltjen | 2 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0/0 | .000/.000/.000 | .000 |
| Velez | 1 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0/0 | .000/.000/.000 | .000 |
| Federowicz | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0/0 | .000/.000/.000 | .000 |
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| Pitchers | 7 | 6 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0/1 | .167/.167/.167 | .333 |
| Totals | 119 | 107 | 17 | 30 | 6 | 2 | 3 | 16 | 5 | 1/2 | .280/.328/.458 | .786 |
| Pitcher | G | W-L | Sv | IP | H | R | ER | BB | K | ERA | WHIP | FIP* |
| Lilly | 1 | 1-0 | -- | 7.0 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 5 | 0.00 | 0.571 | 2.48 |
| Kuroda | 1 | 0-0 | -- | 6.0 | 5 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 5 | 0.00 | 0.833 | 1.38 |
| Eveland | 1 | 1-0 | -- | 5.2 | 5 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 5 | 0.00 | 0.882 | 1.29 |
| Starters | 3 |
2-1 | -- | 18.2 | 13 |
0 | 0 | 1 | 15 | 0.00 | 0.750 | 1.76 |
| Jansen | 2 | 0-0 | 1 | 1.2 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 3 | 0.00 | 1.200 | 1.25 |
| MacDougal | 2 | 0-0 | -- | 1.2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0.00 | 0.600 | 3.65 |
| Lindblom | 2 | 0-0 | -- | 1.1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 0.00 | 0.750 | (1.45) |
| Ely | 1 | 0-0 | -- | 1.0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0.00 | 0.000 | 1.05 |
| Hawksworth | 1 | 0-0 | -- | 0.2 | 2 | 4 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0.00 | 4.500 | 7.55 |
| Guerrier | 2 | 0-0 | -- | 1.0 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 9.00 | 2.000 | 4.05 |
| Guerra | 2 | 0-1 | 1/2 | 1.0 | 1 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 0 | 0.00 | 2.000 | 19.05 |
| Eovaldi | 1 | 0-0 | -- | 0.1 | 0 | 2 | 2 | 3 | 0 | 54.00 | 9.000 | 30.05 |
| Troncoso | 1 | 0-0 | -- | 0.1 | 4 | 5 | 5 | 1 | 0 | 135.00 | 15.000 | 90.05 |
| Elbert | 2 | 0-0 | -- | 0.0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 0 | --- | --- | --- |
| Relievers | 3 |
2-1 |
2/3 | 9.0 | 10 | 14 | 8 | 11 | 9 |
10.00 |
2.333 | 9.05 |
| Totals | 3 |
2-1 | 2/3 | 27.2 | 23 | 14 | 8 | 12 | 24 | 3.25 | 1.265 | 4.13 |
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Jerry Sands
Using Fangraphs leaderboard
For the month of Sept:
As a RF had the 5th best wRC in baseball at 153
As a LF had the 3rd best wRC in baseball at 153
Sept line of .342 / .415 / .492 in 83 plate appearances
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by meercatjohn on Sep 29, 2011 8:37 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
JER-RY! JER-RY! JER-RY!
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by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 29, 2011 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Compared to Trayvon
For month of Sept (min 50 PA):
As LF: 26 wRC+ (worst in MLB)
As CF: 26 wRC+ (worst in MLB)
His Sept line: 162 /.203/.257 with 35 K/ 4 BB in 81 PA
I've read that before,
I just can’t seem to place where.
by Greg Stephen on Sep 29, 2011 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions
How many weeks in a row
did Loney post a plus 900 OPS? all eight since he got his motor running?
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Every week from 20-27 (August 15 on). Amazing
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2011 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions
LOL
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by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 29, 2011 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Let’s make him report with the catchers and pitchers in February. It was his bullpen session that turned him around, if you ask me. I wonder if he got a better feel for the ball coming out of a pitcher’s hand, or remembered something he’d forgotten. Let’s not let him forget.
by TopDeckTrueBlue on Sep 29, 2011 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions
While the playing week is over, the Transactions week may not be. Or are they not allowed to do anything whatsoever until after the world series? Not even DFA people?
Ya, I was trying to think of anybody that you would want to DFA right now. You’re not paying them, so it doesn’t really seem like there would be much urgency.
Even guys like Velez and Oeltjen, since they are pre-arb, you don’t really need to cut them lose until the roster deadline day at the end of spring training.
by Michael White on Sep 29, 2011 8:47 AM PDT up reply actions
Unbelievable
The Dodgers ended their season by winning 10 of their final 11 series, and went 25-10 to finish with a winning record.
skinnyswag9 and TheRealMattKemp
did pretty good themselves. :)
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by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 29, 2011 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Fun with numbers
The ten worst hitting outfielders per Fangraph Leaderboards in Sept:
Marlon Byrd
Mike McCoy
Dayan Viciedo
Desmond Jennings
Juan Pierre
Martin Prado
Shane Victorino
Drew Stubbs
Kosuke Fukudome
Nick Swisher
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The ten Best hitting outfielders per Fangraph Leaderboards in Sept:
Carlos Beltran
BJ Upton
MATT KEMP
Jacoby Ellsbury
Ryan Braun
Jeff Franceur
Lucas Duda
Lance Berkman
Shelly Duncan
JERRY SANDS
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Plenty of time in between to go Full Upton on the playoffs
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2011 8:49 AM PDT up reply actions
by winning last night
The Tampa Bay Rays defied Humma’s First Law.
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by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 29, 2011 8:52 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
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by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 29, 2011 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions
My first reaction is: boy, they sure did.
My second reaction is: Humma’s First Law might need an addendum: Anything can happen, but it won’t, unless Scott Proctor pitches three innings, in which case, all bets are off
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 29, 2011 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions
LOL
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by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 29, 2011 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions
If I may be so presumptuous, I humbly suggest something to the effect of:
Anything can happen, but it won’t, unless at least one thing absolutely must happen, and then it might
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 29, 2011 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions
failure
Anything can happen, but it won’t, unless at least one thing absolutely must happen, and then it might
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 29, 2011 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions
Crawford really should have caught that ball. Nothing and I mean nothing was more fitting then Carl failing on such a huge play and then showing off his popgun arm after the fact.
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I saw the replay a couple of times and couldn’t really tell how catchable it was. Looked like he had to slide and pick the ball right off the grass. Someone without his speed probably doesn’t even make it that close (Rivera, Sands). It was not even close to the Matt Halladay miscue that others described it as.
It is the expectation, if TGJ was in LF I’d expect him to catch that ball once he put his glove on it, I would not expect Juan or Jerry to make that play. Crawford comes into this with a reputation as one of the best defensive Left Fielders in baseball, I think he has to make that play. It was difficult no doubt.
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with what they are paying him
he better catch that ball
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
this is bullshit and hubris
but I think I catch that ball, at age 44, 8.5 times out of 10
I really do
he was caught in the middle an didn’t commit either way
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 29, 2011 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions
He was stuck in a moment and couldn’t get out of it.
by kinbote on Sep 29, 2011 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I was a huge Crawford fan, but damn I love how this turned out. I cannot think of any way to improve this script.
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of the 4 free agent bats last offseason
The one who had the best year was Beltre :)
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by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 29, 2011 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions
The only game that didn’t cause a fan suicide was Beltre! :)
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2011 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions
So your post obviously wins. Who comes in second? I would argue that I do. While Dunn may well have been the worst player in MLB last year, the basis for my argument is, “well, he’s the cheapest.” And he is. Crawford and Werth are on a whole other level salary wise.
by Michael White on Sep 29, 2011 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions
I’d say there was no winner after Beltre. Sox still have three years left on a deal for the worst player in baseball this year.
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yes, the best of the worst still sucks donkey
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 29, 2011 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions
if only
if only
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by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 29, 2011 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Why did the Yankees have a bullpen game? They couldn’t call up a AA pitcher to try and eat some innings?
Perhaps that’s against the un-written rules of baseball, and I have the benefit of hindsight, but pitching an entire bullpen game is close to punting the game anyway (even if it didn’t exactly work out that way.)
Betances started didn't he?
though I think he only pitched a few innings
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by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 29, 2011 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions
They started their best pitching prospect, only problem is, he’s not Matt Moore.
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I thought Banuelos was better?
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by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 29, 2011 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions
That would be like us debating Eovaldi and Webster.
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which we do
all da time! :)
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by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 29, 2011 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions
I prefer Moore
In mind he’s the right handed Kershaw* ;)
Good thing I found out after I said that the FIRST time that he’s a lefty.
And the bullpen shut them out for seven innings.
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Right, but they ran out of pitchers….during the time of year that rosters expanded.
by Michael White on Sep 29, 2011 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions
They could have used Mariano, they choose not to. See Eric’s comment below.
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OK. I didn’t see the connection but in the sense that the Red Sox’s hopes were pinned on, of all things, the Yankees winning, why should the Yankees want to do the Red Sox any favors by winning? OK. They didn’t exactly seem to be trying to lose though, 12 innings and all that.
there is the possibility that letting the Rays in the playoffs will come back to haunt the Yanks in the second round. I think the Red Sox are a much preferable foe.
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The conspiracy theory occurred to me, too, and I’ve been hesitant to comment on it, because I think it’s crazy. That said:
The Yankees would groove one to the Rays and kill the Red Sox because the wild card is from the east, meaning the Tigers or Rangers would get them in the first round. They are giving one of the other teams a much tougher opponent in the ALDS.
I don’t really think they were thinking that, but… that would be the theory.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 29, 2011 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Like I say, it’s crazy to think that way.
That said — and forgive me if I’m missing something — if the Yankees treated this like any other game, they’d have brought in Rivera, no? Did they announce that he wasn’t available or something?
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 29, 2011 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions
This be true, they tried, but they did not try like the Orioles tried.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Sep 29, 2011 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
They didn’t treat it like any other game. They treated it exactly like it was. A game where they had nothing to play for. They played their starters at first to keep them fresh and then got most of them out of there.
They did exactly what they felt was best for their team.
No argument with that. Besides, I think the whole conspiracy theory is BS. I think the Yankees were thinking of themselves and what works for the Yankees, not about being the puppet masters of the ALDS and who would get in and who wouldn’t.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 29, 2011 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions
If I'm the Yankees
I do the exact same thing. I don’t jeopardize my playoff chances by playing my full time regulars 10+ innings. Red Sox should’ve won one more game. I think having a 7-0 late in the game is more than the Red Sox could’ve asked for no matter which 10 Yankees were out there. In other words it is my opinion that they tried "hard enough’.
I don’t blame the Yanks one bit and I don’t think they just “let” them win in a conspiratorial manner, I just meant that they might regret having to face the Rays instead of the Rangers/Red Sox, and thus regret blowing a 7-0 lead in the late innings.
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Bring back the Four Corners offense!
In the nationally televised 1982 ACC championship game between the University of North Carolina Tar Heels and the University of Virginia Cavaliers, Carolina held the ball for roughly the last twelve minutes of the second half to nurse a small lead, eventually winning the game 47-45.
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Ranking the playoff series
1. DET at NYY: Arguably the two best teams in the AL meet for a 5-game set. Verlander/CC will be marquee and offenses are loaded.
2. STL at PHI: Baseball’s best most of the year faces the hottest team in the league. Can Philly shake off late season slump?
3. TB at TEX: Others might have this higher, but TEX should be clear favorites. Can TB’s miracle run extend another week?
4. AZ at MIL: The one potentially lopsided match-up of the group. Two offense-friendly parks could make for a homer-happy series.
BTW, five of ten most hitting-friendly stadiums are in playoffs:
yankees rotation
are the yankees deploying cc-nova-hughes/garcia?
I hope they get destroyed.
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Sep 29, 2011 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions
CC, Nova, Garcia. Three-man rotation for the ALDS
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2011 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions
im shocked
the yankees got such a good run from garcia and colon. their rotation was a bunch of wtf going into the season and look at them now.. some would argue life is unfair.
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Sep 29, 2011 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions
I'd still call it shaky
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by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 29, 2011 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions
thats why I foresee comeuppance in the first round
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Sep 29, 2011 9:04 AM PDT up reply actions
It definitely is. I would think the Tigers wanted to play the Red Sox (obviously) or Yankees (not Tampa.) Detroit can hit the shit out of the ball.
by Michael White on Sep 29, 2011 9:04 AM PDT up reply actions
i saw last night
Miggy won the batting title.
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by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 29, 2011 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions
And absolutely no MVP consideration
Didn’t he also have the highest OPS as well?
by The Dude Abides on Sep 29, 2011 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Joey Bats still beat him.
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by regfairfield on Sep 29, 2011 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Miggy ended up better than Kemp which I didn't think he was that close
On offense, that is.
I wouldn’t be shocked to see Miggy finish 2nd, possibly first now that the Sox aren’t in and people will hold that against Ellsbury (unfairly).
Though if Miggy wins the MVP I would be happy, he’s been amazing his entire career.
is Xeifrank
running the numbers?
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by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 29, 2011 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions
Tampa Bay
may have broken the simulator as well
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by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 29, 2011 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Last night was insane
Just another good example of why betting on baseball will break your heart and or send you to the funny farm.
Seems like the first two guys have been announced for the ALDS
didn’t hear about the NLDS
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by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 29, 2011 9:08 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m wondering who the Cards throw out first. Carpenter just threw a CG yesterday, who’s next in the rotation?
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by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 29, 2011 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions
The Cards don’t even know….yet.
Lohse or Jackson will probably start Game 1, and Carpenter Game 3, but Jaime Garcia is also in the mix for Game 2 as well.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2011 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions
is it the same for the Rays?
or is it Shields?
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by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 29, 2011 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Will you post sims on a game by game basis on your website?
by Michael White on Sep 29, 2011 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Not completely set yet
LaRussa is thinking about Lohse in Game 1. Not official. Garcia or Jackson in G2. Carpenter in G3.
Halladay, Lee, Hamels, Oswalt
Kennedy vs. Gallardo in G1. Nothing announced after that yet.
Sabathia, Nova, Garcia vs. Verlander, Fister, Scherzer and Porcello
Rays to be determined vs. Wilson, Holland, Lewis, Harrison
Not sure if they’d use him on three days rest. It is pretty tempting to use Matt Moore in Game 1. Shields in Game 2. Price in Game 3. Hellickson in Game 4.
But, they’re so deep they can stash Moore in the bullpen and start Niemann in Game 1. Even Wade Davis could start.
ESPN has a timeline up of last night, though it missed that Matt Kemp came up to bat in the 9th as Longoria hit the walk-off
I was watching that
then saw all of you go nuts over Longo. luckily i was able to rewind on MLBN
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by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 29, 2011 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions
I was listening to the Dodger game. Steiner had a Joe Buck type call.
“and the Rays just won” with no real excitement in his voice. But hey, he was busy calling the game he’s actually supposed to call, so I can’t really give him a hard time.
by Michael White on Sep 29, 2011 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions
That was better than Steve Berthiaume’s call on ESPN
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2011 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions
im sure the espn red sox celebration party with cupcakes was cancelled and made him sad
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Sep 29, 2011 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Worst announcer I've ever heard
and that’s saying something
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Cardinals
Playoffs
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by meercatjohn on Sep 29, 2011 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions
One of the craziest parts for me was Boston’s failure to score in top of 9th with huge opportunity. I mean, who doesn’t score against Baltimore’s bullpen when given the chance?
that was a great relay
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by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 29, 2011 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Scutaro messed up just as the analyst said, once he had committed that far he had to keep running.
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when the historians look to assign blame for this collapse, they will see that every one shit the bed
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 29, 2011 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions
and the Yanks? When that ball is hit to Longo and he makes the tag play at 3rd??? Nuts
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 29, 2011 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Thank god we have Matt Kemp
because if we didn’t, my Longo envy would know no bounds
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 29, 2011 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Speaking of Simmons
Chad Moriyama posted his quote about Longoria, something similar to the “not fearing” him crap that he said about Adrian Gonzalez.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2011 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions
How hard what that play? ball hit right to him he looks up and says OMFG you are toasty and tags him out.
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the play is not a hard one, the sequence is crazy
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 29, 2011 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Where do you think Troncoso plays next year?
Dominican leagues, or does an NPB team take a flyer on him?
I heard we are going to sell him to Korea so we can afford to bring back Velez
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Are you kidding? He’s our lucky charm. Brought him on July 4th and our team rocketed from last place.
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The Dodgers were 37-48 on July 3rd
82-79 now, meaning 45-31 since he was brought up. That’s just laughable.
The Dodgers were 37-48 on July 3rd
82-79 now, meaning 45-31 since he was brought up. That’s just laughable.
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by G.Scott on Sep 29, 2011 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Kemp didn’t have an amazing game but he did enough. Finishes at 10 WAR exactly making him the first player since Barry Bonds and Adrian Beltre to have a double digit WAR.
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by regfairfield on Sep 29, 2011 9:09 AM PDT reply actions 3 recs
M-V-P! M-V-P! M-V-P!
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by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 29, 2011 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions
Awesome.
Will there be post-season tweaks regarding park factors? If so, it probably helps his numbers a little bit more.
by Michael White on Sep 29, 2011 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions
Think so, but if anything that might hurt him since Dodger Stadium played as slightly more of a hitters park than usual this year.
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by regfairfield on Sep 29, 2011 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions
just asking
What’s your official position on who should win MVP/CY? Seems like you favor Kemp/Halladay by the numbers?
Yep. Kemp by a lot at this point, Halladay, and Lee both have slight edges over Kershaw.
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by regfairfield on Sep 29, 2011 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions
Come on man
I dont have a problem with Halladay>Kershaw but Kershaw>Lee, even if it is a small margin.
It’s not like Reg’s a hater, I’m sure he’s got a defensible reason for Lee > Kershaw.
by Michael White on Sep 29, 2011 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions
Is there room under those covers with you and Pujols? :)
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2011 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm also just saying
Sometimes its ok to be a homer, and in a case like this, it’s completely justified :)
It really can go either way on Lee but I’m looking at the xFIP and I think considering the park factors and the defense behind him he was very very slightly better.
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by regfairfield on Sep 29, 2011 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions
((homeRS + homeRA)/(homeG)) / ((roadRS + roadRA)/(roadG))
Dodgers may have higher park factors simply from dividing 82/81 with the one missed road game
I know
just being an annoying little brother type this AM
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 29, 2011 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions
I think
that is how ESPN does it, which is why their park factors suck. B-R does it in a much more complex fashion.
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Still waiting on start times for the NLDS
But with four games on Saturday it looks like the D’Backs/Brewers will have a morning start time.
Simmons wrote a Simmons diary
could have been written 15 years ago…the usual suspects are all there including a “The Real World” reference
I wonder, does he know that we all openly and happily root for his misery?
PS – Classy reference to Amy Madigan where he calls her voice “older” – nice move charmer
He seems more self-aware that nobody wants to hear about the Boston “woe is me” shit anymore.
by Michael White on Sep 29, 2011 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions
By the way, by scoring 7 runs last night, the Dodgers averaged exactly 4.0 runs per game. Quite an uphill climb to get there.
OWNZONE
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 29, 2011 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions
The only problem with the seedings...
is that I want the Brewers and then the Snakes….having them play each other increases the odds that one of those red fucking teams ends up in the series
Eh, fuck the Diamondbacks. I can’t root for another team in the division. This isn’t college football.
by Michael White on Sep 29, 2011 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions
I’ll easily root for the Diamondbacks against everyone but the Brewers.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
yes, they are less repugnant by a long way
also, no one I hate lives in AZ
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 29, 2011 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions
I would root for the Phillies over the D-Backs. I like Halladay.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2011 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions
I'll probably root for the Dbacks
for Gibson. But I think they get swept
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
If the D-Backs do well, I will be happy for Gibson. No doubt.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2011 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions
I never want to see any NL West team do well. Fuck them all.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2011 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions
I always fall back on Dodgers>NL West non-Giants Division>NL>AL non-Yankees division>Fuck the Yankees and Giants.
THE OFFICIAL HUMMA KAVULA LIST OF TEAMS TO ROOT FOR, IN ORDER
1. Brewers
2. Tigers
3. Rays
4. Rangers
5. Diamondbacks
6. Cardinals
7. Fuck you, Ruiz
8. Yankees
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Sep 29, 2011 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions
where were you last night
I made two, count ’em two, Ray Lewis is a murderer jokes and you were nowhere to be found
they were trees falling in the forest
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 29, 2011 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Daughter had basketball practice and I had to pick up my son from work.
Sorry, I won’t let that happen again.
by Greg Stephen on Sep 29, 2011 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Well, after the incident it was suspe…oh you meant Greg’s son.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2011 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Nope,
failed it on his first attempt. Next appointment is the day before Thanksgiving
by Greg Stephen on Sep 29, 2011 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Here in MD, they make you run a course first and then take
you out on the road. He jumped the curb twice trying to park my suburban.
by Greg Stephen on Sep 29, 2011 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Logic would dictate you take a driving test in something smaller.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
by meercatjohn on Sep 29, 2011 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions
My suburban or my wife's windstar (which probably wouldn't pass the inspection)
are our only options and he’s really only driven the sub.
by Greg Stephen on Sep 29, 2011 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Eric has a car?
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
by meercatjohn on Sep 29, 2011 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Hah, by the time I took my road test, I’d been driving for six months on my learner’s permit … more or less by myself. I really had to think hard to remember to keep two hands on the wheel and stuff.
by TopDeckTrueBlue on Sep 29, 2011 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Look, those two nuns should have looked twice before crossing the street. Sure, they had their hands full and were focused on not dropping the basket full of puppies they were delivering to the orphanage, but that doesn’t mean they couldn’t have tilted their heads.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2011 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions
really, killing Nuns shouldn’t be such a big deal because you figure a heavenly reward awaits….right?
Now killing some guy you doubts in god, and sees good and evil as words and not absolutes…hell if someone kills me nothing good happens
Much worse to kill someone bad
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 29, 2011 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Re-write
The two nuns couldn’t see because the pointy pillowcases they were wearing on their heads didn’t have eye holes big enough.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2011 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions
1) Tigers
2) Rays
3) Brewers
4) Rangers
5) Yankees
6) Cardinals
7) Phillies
8) Diamondbacks
by Michael White on Sep 29, 2011 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Brewers & Rays.
If the Tigers or Rangers win, that’s cool.
Fuck everyone else.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2011 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
This will end up some bullshit like last year
Where half the teams will be acceptable, yet the ones we hate will end up in the Championship Series’
Since all the cool kids are making one
1. Brewers
2. Rays
3. Tigers
4. Rangers
5. Diamondbacks
6. Cardinals
7. Yankees
8. Fuck you, Ruiz
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 29, 2011 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions
that's why i'm not doing it
/hipster
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 29, 2011 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Now that I look at the list
I really don’t like any of them
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Jim Leyland wears cleats in the dugout and told Barry Bonds to go fuck himself. I will watch Miguel Cabrera do anything except drive me home. Tigers are easy to like, for one.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2011 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions
He'd be
constantly swatting Miles away
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
by mleadman on Sep 29, 2011 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
best callback ever?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 29, 2011 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Kelly and I had this discussion earlier today
I don’t hate the Red Sox, just their fans. Their fans suck ass!
by Greg Stephen on Sep 29, 2011 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Red Sox fans aren’t the only reason I am no longer a Red Sox fan. They are not even the main reason I am no longer a Red Sox fan. But they are definitely one of the reasons I am no longer a Red Sox fan.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Sep 29, 2011 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions
When did you move to CA? If it was a few years later and MLB Extra Innings was available, would you have stuck with Boston?
by Michael White on Sep 29, 2011 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions
I moved to LA in 1996. I casually followed baseball for a while, then fell off the map in 2003, when I was in Europe for the entire year. Strangely, being gone (and following the Tigers’ incredible dream season that year!) made me miss baseball greatly, and I resolved to be a better baseball fan.
So in 2004, I did two things. I started following the Red Sox much more closely, and I bought into a season ticket package for the Dodgers, because I live here and wanted to see major league baseball. Watching the Dodgers play — and being a fan of Paul DePodesta and what he was trying to do — made me want to learn more about the Dodgers. I found out about Dodger Thoughts and starting reading and commenting. But I still considered myself, mostly a Red Sox fan whose NL team was the Dodgers. Of course, that was the Red Sox’s year.
So in 2005, several things happened:
1) I re-signed up for more Dodger tickets
2) I started following the Jacksonville Suns, since that was where the exciting Dodger action was
3) I started commenting more and more on DT
4) I became increasingly, and distressingly, disenchanted with other Red Sox fans.
By the end of 2005, I had dumped the Red Sox and considered myself a Dodger fan. The primary reason was following those Suns — how could I follow that team and not become a fan of those players and the team they would eventually play for?
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Sep 29, 2011 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions
this is how you leave a team and marry another with grace and dignity
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 29, 2011 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Was that the year the Tigers had to win 4 of the last 5 to avoid breaking the Mets record for losses in a season?
by Michael White on Sep 29, 2011 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions
The Intertational Herald Tribune has the standings every day and the occasional baseball article. I’d pick it up every now and then. “Whoo-wee,” I’d say, as the train rumbled, “They stink.”
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Sep 29, 2011 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Somewhere, there is a French student who looks back on his daily childhood train trips, and that one man who always said “Whoo-wee, they stink,” and wondered who exactly stank?
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2011 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Did you ever wonder if the overriding reason for dropping the Red Sox is that – you don’t know how to support a winning team? (Like “can’t pitch with a lead”. ;-)) Drawing obnoxious, smug fans is just part, if a big part, of that, but not the whole thing. Red Sox lost the losers’ romance, Dodgers had the young hopeful prospects. At least you hadn’t moved to Chicago in the meantime, where you would have succumbed to the Cubs.
I think this is an appropriate question for Cubs and Red Sox fans. How much of it is the “lovable losers” thing
by Michael White on Sep 29, 2011 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions
You mean like Pope?
Hope springs eternal in the human breast;
Man never Is, but always To be blest:
The soul, uneasy and confin’d from home,
Rests and expatiates in a life to come.
I’ve thought about it. And there may be something to that. Two pieces of evidence to the contrary:
1. I would contend that the Red Sox fandom did not go over the top in the obnoxiousness and smugness until after they won the championship.
2. I really had no problem supporting the Dodgers in 2009, when I thought they were the best team in the National League. The NLCS was a severe disappointment.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Sep 29, 2011 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Their fans make me hate the team
Also the fact they act like an underdog because they spend 30-50 million less (maybe?) on their payroll than the Yankees, yet it’s still 2nd highest.
I’ve got your back on this one. Even though the Phillies beat the shit out of us 2 years in a row, I never really developed a hatred.
by Michael White on Sep 29, 2011 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't hate anyone
I’m a lover.
But still, fuck the Giants
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
I’ve never developed DBacks or Padres hatred.
I do hate the Mets, Phillies, Cardinals, Rockies, and Giants.
Ya, fuck the Padres too. Closer proximity than SF, so I run into Padre fans more often. Plus, I like that they are such losers and I never want them to win, so I’d strongly root against them.
by Michael White on Sep 29, 2011 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions
I never run into any NL West fans, so I don’t have the same hatred as you guys.
I run into Braves and Cardinal fans.
I can tolerate the Braves to an extent now, but I will never pull for the Cards
You would pull for the Cards if it meant pulling them into an oncoming train.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2011 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions
This is fact
I would pull for the Cards against Nazi Germany.
Pretty sure I’d root for the Mexican Drug Cartels vs St Louis though
That's because you like tacos
more than BBQ
by Greg Stephen on Sep 29, 2011 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions
It seems to me (an obvious outside observer) that the Braves
became more of a team for the business traveler back in the 80’s & 90’s due to TBS coverage. No matter where you were, you could always find a Braves game on TV. The have never drawn well in The ATL. JMO
by Greg Stephen on Sep 29, 2011 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Ya, I know guys who grew up in Oregon who are Braves and Cubs fans because the games were on TBS and WGN all the time.
by Michael White on Sep 29, 2011 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Last night I tweeted right as the Braves game ended, “That’s what you get for 1991,” and right about the same time Grant at McCovey Chronicles tweeted something similar about 1993.
But Grant deleted his tweet. Pussy.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2011 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions
LOL
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 29, 2011 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions
I still don't understand deleting someone's tweets.
Once their out there, someone will see them regardless of how quickly you try to destroy the evidence.
by Greg Stephen on Sep 29, 2011 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions
In my excitement last night over Kemp’s home run, I tweeted that only Willie Davis had more RBI in a single season than Kemp among LA Dodgers, when I meant to say Tommy.
I deleted that tweet but also tweeted saying what an idiot I was for making that mistake.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2011 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions
You and I are almost completely similar
Take out the Cards and that’s how I’ve felt the last 5 years.
They're a bunch of pompous east coast assholes
Trust me on that one.
by Greg Stephen on Sep 29, 2011 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions
Don’t get me wrong, fuck the Phillies.
But when two loathsome teams get together, you gotta pick a side. And I would choose Philly over Phoenix.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2011 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions
It’s the baseball playoffs. It’s impossible not to watch.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2011 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions
Seriously. Even if it turns out to be Yankees-Phillies, which I would find the most loathsome World Series possible, a World Series built on cynicism and hatred and everything that is wrong with baseball, business, America, and the world — even that World Series, I would watch.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Sep 29, 2011 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions
To me, 2002 wasn’t even a conflict. Easily rooted for the Angels.
by Michael White on Sep 29, 2011 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions
same here
fuck the giants
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 29, 2011 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions
funny story
the night before me and my dad were going down to Anaheim for a couple games, I decided to take the family car out for a spin. I was 15, I made it home okay but decided to overcorrect and park exactly how it was left.. I took out the garage door, the car was fine.
there were no WS games for me. My dad was cool and told everyone he couldn’t stand the thunder sticks, so we didnt go.
I hated both teams, I fucked myself subconsciously
by NotJoeTorre on Sep 29, 2011 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
I stole my brother's car when I was 14
an old 1956 Chevy that didn’t need a key to start it. I picked up a friend and drove to Arcadia to another friend’s house. After an hour, I tried to go back home but the fucking car wouldn’t start. We ended up tying a rope to it and towing it home with another friend’s car. By the time I got it home, my dad was home from work. I made up some bullshit story about taking the car to get it fixed. I was grounded for two weeks.
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
thundersticks with 30k people doing it
at the same time are great. Anything less then that and its just obnoxious.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Chan Ho had a thunderstick posse that had choreographed moves. That was a good use for them.
Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Sep 29, 2011 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Never saw that.
I’d probably still talk shit about it, but like it in private….kinda like Jersey Shore
I dont watch TV like that but I heard the new Real World is awesome
by NotJoeTorre on Sep 29, 2011 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions
The only series I had absolutely no interest in watching
was the 2005 World Series. I had seriously no stake either way in who won or lost.
Wow, I'd completely forgotten about that one.
I have a latent connection to the White Sox, so I guess I paid some attention.
by TopDeckTrueBlue on Sep 29, 2011 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions
no
05 was White Sox and Astros
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 29, 2011 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions
CHW/HOU?
I wanted to Houston to win, always liked the killer B’s
by NotJoeTorre on Sep 29, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
This is why we get all Yankees all the time.
That series was amazing.
Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Sep 29, 2011 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't want to watch the Yankees
But I don’t want to watch the White Sox or Astros either. I’d be happy with Brewers/Cardinals/Rays/Rangers/Tigers this year.
1982 World Series rematch in the 2011 NLCS would be…something.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2011 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions
I just don’t want another team to pass the Dodgers on the longest time since a World Series appearance list.
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by regfairfield on Sep 29, 2011 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions
two things about '05 white sox
1. Juan Uribe was the opening day SS
2. They used six pitchers as starters all year
Buerhrle/Freddy Garcia—33 GS each
Contreras/Garland—32 GS each
O. Hernandez—22 GS
B. McCarthy—10 GS
=162
Only time I saw a pennant clinched in person.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
It's series like these
where you root for the natural disaster
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
I stopped doing that after 1989.
Follow @DavidYoungTBLA
- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Earthquakes aren't effective enough
I root for a meteor
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
based on an older, bad meteor movie that starred Sean Connery, IIRC.
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- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
If Clemens and Bagwell were fully healthy, that’s a much different series.
Closest sweep ever. Two 1-run games, two 2-run games.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2011 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions
the beating us two years in a row
and then FAILING to do the same to the giants has helped me develop some good hate for them.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 29, 2011 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Similar lines of thinking to why I'm glad the Braves failed in September this year
You asshats should have taken down the Giants.
I would root for six other teams over the Phillies.
I would root for the Phillies, except for Ruiz, over the Yankees.
Fuck you, Ruiz.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Sep 29, 2011 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions
quick aside
I’m now offering a Zumba class in the morning on Sundays at 10 am, so let your girlfriends and significant others know. This is probably best for my SFV people, but those living nearby (COUGHHOLLYWOODJOECOUGH) can probably make it out too.
/endselfpimping
My question now is that if the team actually does go for a 9 digit FA, who do they go for? Seems like a sure bet now that Loney, he gone.
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness
Silly rabbit, Sunday mornings are made for old man baseball and watching football
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 29, 2011 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions
I sense a 4 part off-season series!
But if it works out like last year, just go with whoever Phil picks.
by Michael White on Sep 29, 2011 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions
unless
they want to put him in LF
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 29, 2011 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions
Seems like a sure bet now that Loney, not behegone.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
I think they’ll go down to the wire with Loney. Like JMart last year.
by Michael White on Sep 29, 2011 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions
They ,may not agree on a deal before arbitration but no way is he not getting tendered like Martin did.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
Loney has to settle for less than what he’d get in arbitration to make it worth it for the Dodgers. $7+MM? You can’t do it. $5-$6MM, the Dodgers can work with.
by Michael White on Sep 29, 2011 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions
….Assuming you’re definitely keeping Ethier.
by Michael White on Sep 29, 2011 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Where would you put Loney? Fielder or Pujols are 1B, putting Loney in LF would limit Sands’ playing time, and you’re certainly not paying 7+ for a bench bat, especially one who has a hard time figuring out which end of the bat is which in the beginning of the season.
Jose Reyes is intriguing to me but he plays SS. Whither Dee?
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness
Reality is that Fielder and Pujols aren’t happening so first base.
Honestly I don’t think either Dee or Sands deserves to have a spot reserved for them. If you can’t find a replacement sure, go with it, but neither of those guys should stop you from acquiring the players you want.
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by regfairfield on Sep 29, 2011 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions
this is true. I wonder if the org would go for CJ Wilson.
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness
Not a 9 digit FA
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
by meercatjohn on Sep 29, 2011 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions
theres, what
2 guys who are worth 9 digits? Maybe ned just spends total 9 digits
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
on 9 1 million dollar contracts! HOORAY!
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness
or 100
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
by meercatjohn on Sep 29, 2011 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Posturing and signing two different things.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
by meercatjohn on Sep 29, 2011 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh, if you are assuming the club is getting one of Fielder or Pujols, Loney is definitely gone.
Reyes could play 2B, Uribe 3B, Gordon at SS. Or, you could sign Reyes and trade Gordon. His value is probably sky-high right now.
by Michael White on Sep 29, 2011 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions
I was assuming 9 digit FA. Unless Ned turns around and fires that money at someone who isn’t top tier talent (which I want to say isn’t possible, but…yeah), I’m assuming they’re targeting big named people.
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness
If you trade Gordon he goes for a SP I'd guess
I wonder what SP will be on the trade block this offseason. That said, I’d like to keep Gordon.
Wandy Rodriguez for Dee Gordon makes sense for both teams.
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by regfairfield on Sep 29, 2011 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions
You know 100% that Dee Gordon is not being traded.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
Sure, but 4down wanted a trade.
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by regfairfield on Sep 29, 2011 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't want a trade
I was saying if there was a trade I’d guess he goes for a SP. I’m a fan of his speedy game and the fact that he’s young Juan Pierre at SS, not LF or CF.
I wouldn't mind that too much
But are you worried that he seem a step below Billingsley for around the same amount of money and is also coming off an average year?
Average is okay. The Dodgers will need average. Realistically, they are going to have below average type guys rotating through the SP5 spot next year.
by Michael White on Sep 29, 2011 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions
He’s not perfect but he’s been arguably better than Billingsley since 2009 and there’s no way you could pull a pitcher that good for cheaper than the 2/25 Wandy has left.
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by regfairfield on Sep 29, 2011 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions
I think Dee for Wade Davis makes more sense for the Rays
Though Davis has a kick ass contract if he can improve his numbers.
Whenever I see the name Wade, I think of Wade Miller
by Michael White on Sep 29, 2011 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions
Wade Miller was a good pitcher for a few years there
I thought he might be as good as Roy O way back then.
In my day, challenge trades were position for position. Like David Segui for Brad Fullmer for Lee Stevens.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2011 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions
What is the genesis
of this challenge trade stuff?
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Impressive
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
by meercatjohn on Sep 29, 2011 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions
LOL
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 29, 2011 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions
Good chance
we sign Beltran or A Ram and Loney stays. Outside of pujols are fielder I think I would rather run with a Loney Sands platoon then anyone available.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
I read on ESPN that A-RAM was the worst defensive 3rd baseman in the league, so are we ready for pissing and moaning over his defense?
even with his defense
he is worth in excess of 3 wars. Better then anything else we got for the position.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
A-Ram is a likely target. He is a big bat and won’t require the number of years that the other offensive upgrades will. I’d be bringing back Rivera in this scenario though to spell Loney and Ethier.
I would love to see Beltran and Aramis sign instead of Prince. Love it. Sign them both to two year deals, play Loney at first, give Sands another year in AAA and called up when there is an injury, then if Loney hits, extend him, if he doesn’t, hello Jerry sands 2013 Starting 1B.
You think either of those guys would have to settle for 2 year deals? Maybe Beltran, I doubt Aramis would.
by Michael White on Sep 29, 2011 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions
none of this is going to happen, but I’d love it if it did. I full expect Beltran to get 2/28 and Aramis to get 64/4
I think we will have a fairly good shot at Ramirez if we want him and Loney’s late season surge may have given Ned enough incentive to focus on another position of need, 3B. Beltran, I think stays with SF.
I don’t think SF can afford Beltran, and I think Rollins will get double the years at the same salary
You don’t think they can afford a big signing? I think they’re pretty much assured of adding an expensive bat.
Higher attendance this year?
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by regfairfield on Sep 29, 2011 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions
A) They only had 4,000 more per game.
B) They don’t have much money coming off the books and their arb raises will be insane
C) They didn’t make the playoffs this year so the attendance could normalize, then they’d be stuck paying higher payrolls to a team with lower season ticket turnover.
Without Vogelsong (since I’m not even gonna try to guess what he’ll get) they’ve got 15-20 million coming off the books. Enough to go buy a major free agent.
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by regfairfield on Sep 29, 2011 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Added that in. Lincecum is the only real arbitration commitment they have, everyone else is either bad or in year one of arbitration.
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by regfairfield on Sep 29, 2011 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions
If they bring Sanchez back, they are looking at something like $110 million before any other moves
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2011 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions
MIssed Sanchez.
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by regfairfield on Sep 29, 2011 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions
I saw rumblings a few weeks back that he is a non-tender candidate, so SF might miss him too :)
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2011 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions
Andrew Baggarly has a pretty thorough set of notes in a post today on Sabean’s offseason plans. Doesn’t sound like they will be major players in free agency.
They are looking to re-sign Beltran, but don’t expect a deal to happen quickly.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2011 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Also wasn't there talk of their being a tighter mgmt/ownership group
now that Neukom is out?
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I’d rather trade for David Wright than sign Ramirez.
by dodgers4life on Sep 29, 2011 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions
I’d rather my wife brought home Kat Dennings than a steak for dinner
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 29, 2011 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
I know you're on the David Wright bandwagon
But it would take a lot more than we really have to give right now.
he’ll just waste it on sheep and blow
by Josie Becker on Sep 29, 2011 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I’ll rec it, but I would really pimp it if you had gone with “ewes”.
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- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
you’re right, sheep=rams and ewes.
Trivia question, a ram is an uncastrated male sheep. What do you call a castrated male sheep?
by Josie Becker on Sep 29, 2011 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions
no one got it
it’s called a wether.
And of course, a castrated bull is called a steer
by Josie Becker on Sep 29, 2011 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions
When the ex-ram asks what happened
The answer is You can’t do anything about it wether.
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Weren’t the (LA) Rams cheerleaders once called the Embraceable Ewes? Or is that just a suggestion that I remember?
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yes, yes they were
you are slipping though
no photo?
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 29, 2011 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
something about that picture
makes them look bottomless
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Yes, I found myself leaning toward the screen, trying to see what was what, so to speak.
by TopDeckTrueBlue on Sep 29, 2011 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I’d trade Webster and a a couple of minor league players for David Wright easily. Players on the major league roster(Gordon,Sands,etc.) though are off limits. I believe that we are only a bat away from being serious contenders. Wright would be that bat in my opinion.
by dodgers4life on Sep 29, 2011 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
That's what I'm saying though
They will want guys like Sands, Gordon, Eo, Kenley, guys who have shown they can play in the majors but have only been rookies this year. I’d bet they’d want at least 1 or 2 of these guys alone THEN a minor leaguer or two (top prospect).
David Wright has made himself tradable, but if they trade him, they still gotta sell that trade to their fanbase. There is no way they trade him for a package that is headlined by Webster.
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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Sep 29, 2011 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions
You are the 2011 Red Sox of trade proposals.
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by regfairfield on Sep 29, 2011 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions
I think I know what you are getting at
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 29, 2011 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions
I feel like it might cost another of our better prospects as well
And possibly a young prospect with good upside. I could see them asking for Jonathan Garcia as well.
the salaries they will earn is a huge factor there.
by NotJoeTorre on Sep 29, 2011 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions
if a ram gets that much money
I will poop myself out of shock
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
I’m more intrigued by pooping yourself out of shock
like, i am so shocked i pooped or
i was really shocked but then i pooped so i’m fine now
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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you can poop when you are very scared or when you die
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 29, 2011 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions
or apparently when you give birth
:(
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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yup
that’s why they used to make birthing mothers get enemas
by Josie Becker on Sep 29, 2011 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions
That was Zobrists job
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
by meercatjohn on Sep 29, 2011 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions
I wouldn’t know. I never got South of the Tits when my daughter was born.
by keithc13 on Sep 29, 2011 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Your daughter had tits when she was born?
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2011 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Some are just better bigger than others.
same difference, mostly
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 29, 2011 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions
NONSENSE
bigger is not always better with boobies, not by a long shit.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
by nolander on Sep 29, 2011 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
But you feel as though you’ve accomplished so much more.
by keithc13 on Sep 29, 2011 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
best comment ever
green for life
this makes me hurt
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 29, 2011 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
So, you were working on them
as she was in labor? That’s creepy
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
In 1966 that’s what my mom thought happened. Turns out it was just Greg.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2011 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Thought I’d see four or five of these in a span of seconds
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by meercatjohn on Sep 29, 2011 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Clayton Kershaw
is the Dan Patrick interview in SI this week
I read it last night before bed, perfect cap to the day
he is humble about everything except Matt Kemp
I heard him live earlier in the week
I was expecting more of a Texas Twang. Sorry, I don’t here him speak out here on the east coast.
by Greg Stephen on Sep 29, 2011 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions
He sounds like he could be from California with the way he talks
Not really any accent that I can tell.
blew chunks last night, I ended up giving up, it does seem to be having some problems right now.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
oh, and, with brother and sister schools you do dances together, and you end up at the same parties and stuff. So it’s not like Evan was just a name in a yearbook, I saw him all the time. And his aunt teaches at the same school as my mom. Party poopers : )
by Josie Becker on Sep 29, 2011 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Why you talking to me, G Scott made that comment?
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by meercatjohn on Sep 29, 2011 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions
and then you said, “when did you take over my personality?” : )
by Josie Becker on Sep 29, 2011 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Ah, but I knew the answer you delivered. It was something I’d ask if I didn’t know the answer.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
by meercatjohn on Sep 29, 2011 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions
All that Subject, text shenanigans blew out something else. Fuckin IT
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
E's stopped paying SBNation to let him post.
by Greg Stephen on Sep 29, 2011 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Didn’t we have similar problems during the 09 playoffs? TBLA traffic was crazy. We were having 6 overflow threads.
by Michael White on Sep 29, 2011 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions
this was systemwide though, like SBNs servers were overloaded
by Josie Becker on Sep 29, 2011 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions
that’s def what did it, just thought things would be back to normal by now.
by Josie Becker on Sep 29, 2011 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions
People on the east coast
where asleep when it all went down?
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
I went to bed at about 23:15
O’s & Sawx had just started back up, Sawx up 3-2, Rays & Yanks were in the 12th (I think) tied 7-7, and the Braves-Fuck the Phillies were 3-3 in the 14th.
by Greg Stephen on Sep 29, 2011 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions
D’Backs/Brewers play Game 1 at 10:37 am pacific on Saturday.
Game 2 is Sunday at 2:07 pm pacific. Head to head with the Packers game.
7 minutes past the hour. I wish they’d get over that. Exception for Toronto, which has always done it.
I liked that the White Sox got an endorsement deal out of it a few years back, starting all their 7pm games at 7:11.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2011 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Rays / Rangers
Game 1: 2:07pm Friday
Game 2: 4:07pm Saturday
Game 3: 2:07pm Monday
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Yup
I would have voted for Rubby by a mile.
by Michael White on Sep 29, 2011 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions
I think Lee would probably not be ranked so highly.
Nice to see that Dee lived up to his (formerly) ranked status of being awesome
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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the scouts.. they were right!
/moneyballbacklash2011
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Sep 29, 2011 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Ya
I have to give credit to poster BFDC. He was all about the scouting reports on Dee and they were right. Dee wasn’t a world-beater, but his ability to field his position at the major league level was fantastic considering his struggles in the minors. The scouts were all ove rthat.
by Michael White on Sep 29, 2011 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Don’t blame me, I voted for Kenley.
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by regfairfield on Sep 29, 2011 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions
in my inside of the park baseball gm sim on iphone
dewitt is a 5 star player making millions of dollars for the yankees.
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Sep 29, 2011 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions
I pimped Kenley Jansen and Sands pretty hard, I’m happy with that. I had Rubby as my top pitching prospect, I’m happy with that.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
by meercatjohn on Sep 29, 2011 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Mine would be something like
1. Rubby
2. Sands
3. Gordon
4. Kenley
5. Eovaldi
I really wish we could have seen Rubby all year and for all of next year too, he was so electric. Sands may not have the best looking numbers, but he showed a lot after he came back up and makes me think he can still be around the player we thought he’d be, just more of a doubles hitter. I very nearly put Gordon 2nd, because he’s showed an almost elite game at SS in September, but I like Sand’s chances better.
As for Kenley, he might deserve to go number 1 just on how dominant he was june 18th on. It was seriously amazing. His september was epic. Eo because he was awesome in AA and held his own at the MLB level.
right now
I take Webster over in pitcher in the system
by NotJoeTorre on Sep 29, 2011 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Did Anybody Besides Me Put Rubby #1?
I honestly don’t remember. On the down side, my skepticism about Dee is not looking wise right now. But If I am going to be wrong about a Dodger prospect, I would much prefer he turn out better than I foresaw instead of worse.
IIRC, I went with Kenley in the initial vote, and then, in the re-vote, your argument convinced me and I went with Rubby.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Sep 29, 2011 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions
2 wild card team playoffs
If this season had been played with 2 wild card teams eligible – all the drama last night would have been solely for home field advantage!
Matt Kemp's final OBP
.399129
Too bad that official scorer on Sunday didn’t change the error to a hit! (would have been .400581)
yeah
funny thing is, just before they cut from them to the game, you can hear Reynolds go “ARE YOU KIDD-”
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 29, 2011 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions
I knew right then something awesome was about to happen. Watching MLB TV last night made up for TBLA being dicky.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Sep 29, 2011 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
hah
the guy on the right seems to be like, DUDE JOURNALISTIC INTEGRITY! CHILLAX
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
for like three seconds, then it’s SPRING BREAK BABY!
by Josie Becker on Sep 29, 2011 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions
so as I see that
analyst 1, furthest to the left, is on the air for both those moments. the other two are doing silly dances trying not to get in the shot or make noise on the broadcast
by Josie Becker on Sep 29, 2011 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions
It's no Barajas + Dee Baby Rocking though.
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The TBLA Fifth Annual Postseason Contest is ready to roll
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James Loney was 5th on the LVP list
http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/7029954/mlb-award-winners-2011-major-league-baseball-season
Come on Man, the last 1/3 of the season shows completely otherwise.
For instance
Casey Kotchman was at 2.7 WAR .306/.378/.422. Clearly he was better, but another few weeks and Loney may have caught up to him, lol.
Kotchman’s season was heartstopping.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2011 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
He fell quite a bit the last month and a half
His last 43 games he hit .226/.331/.281 with only 4 extra base hits. Its shocking to see that line from him and the Rays still winning the way they did.
Helps that BJ Upton was the second best hitter in baseball in Sept
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 29, 2011 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Not as heart stopping as Dan Johnson’s season.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 29, 2011 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
ha
Chest pains
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 29, 2011 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions
shit hellickson is a rookie huh?
winner winner chicken dinner?
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
he has Mike Scioscia
ranked as 3rd in his AL Manager of the Year? Are you fucking kidding me?
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
The issue he brings up about Kemp vs Braun is that Braun put up those numbers on a team where every single game mattered, and that is supposedly more difficult.
I would argue that doing what Kemp did is more difficult, because he played hard every day for a team that wasn’t anywhere near close to being in contention.
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness
in serious conversation for worst movie ever. all i remember (besides Anthony Lane’s hysterical review) is almost every camera shot is tilted. didn’t improve the product. oh, and JT had a ridic accent.
I think my least favorite movie ever is Armageddon
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
I started watching Amageddon
and couldn’t stop. I thought to myself, “I don’t want to miss a thing.”
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
LOL
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 29, 2011 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Yes and the asteroid is a better actor
by VegasBlues on Sep 29, 2011 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
ha ha
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 29, 2011 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey, didn’t that have Liv Tyler, can any movie be called bad that has Liv Tyler?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Sep 29, 2011 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
i say
nay
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 29, 2011 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions
nope
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 29, 2011 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Of course it's a Michael Baysplotion movie
and Ben Afflack was not great in it (though still enjoyable for me), I thought it was a good movie to enjoy watching, just not necessarily a good movie.
You kind of like anything don’t you?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Sep 29, 2011 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I mean we call you Puppy for a reason
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 29, 2011 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions
nothing he said was wrong!
plus, steven buscemi. Come on!
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
that’s far from what Buscemi will be known for, and you know it!!
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
Desperado
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Sep 29, 2011 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Mr. Pink FTW
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
gotta love Buscemi
“Hey Homer, I’m actor Steve Buscemi.”
“The guy who got fed into the wood chipper in Fargo?!”
(Buscemi nods proudly.)
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 29, 2011 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Some friends have told me that
I’m actually a big fan of Ben Afflack and (duh) Bruce Willis. The sidekick to Bruce Willis’ character is an awesome actor in the stuff I’ve seen him in. Plus Steve Buchemi and Billy Bob Thornton are always great.
Things I don't like
The Phillies, the Yankees, the Giants (no particular order here, but Giants would be first), the Red Sox, Rockies, Tyler Perry, Brittney Spears, most punk rock, metal music, classical music, most big dogs I don’t already know, super huge trucks, drugs, Jersey Shore, people who act like dbags most of the time, Kyra Sedgwick, Sex and the City, Sarah Jessica Parker, super nerdy not well known comics and anime, soccer, and i’m sure lots of other stuff.
If you’re looking for movies I dont like, that list might be pretty long :P
most big dogs I don’t already know
simply can’t hide a nugget like that.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Sep 29, 2011 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Every dog that isn't cool with me, like that Im around a bunch
Seem to want to bite me in the jugular. Fuckin damn dogs.
I am getting significant joy from this conversation
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 29, 2011 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Eric
Can you approve people’s accounts who just joined? My friend from the softball game joined and it’s got the 24 hour thing to wait.
Isn’t that a reason to deny?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Sep 29, 2011 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions
New Fan Post about Old Friends by SteveSaxPhone
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He put Wolf and Saito on the wrong team.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Sep 29, 2011 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Those hard on David Wright
might want to consider some facts.
1. He will make 15,0000 in 2012 and 16,000,000 in 2013
2. He had a slug% of .427 in 2011
3. His OPS in 2011 was .771
Guys like Lucas Duda and Daniel Murphy had higher slug% then he did on his team before you start quoting me park effects.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
In my life
I’ve never seen a collapse like Adam Dunn.
FInal line:
.159 / .292 / .277
His career slug% is still over .500 even after this season. I’ve seen slumps, I’ve never seen this. Never.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 29, 2011 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions
He's a shoo-in for comeback player of the year though
I can’t imagine he does worse than .240/.360/.490 next year. Seriously, my brain won’t let me believe that.
Or Werth?
All the King’s men.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 29, 2011 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Every time someone says, “He [Reyes/Rollins/Beltran] won’t get that much money,” the best counterargument is Werth. That deal was crazy.
Those guys all either have injury concerns, are older
or haven’t been elite in a while(rollins). Werth was none of those.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Werth qualified for a batting title twice before signing for $126 million.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2011 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
doesn't negate anything I've said yo
He had least had two elite(maybe just solid) healthy seasons heading into free agency. None of those 3 can say that. Unless you are just saying Werth was once considered injury prone, which you have me there a bit.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
More like a platoon player until he started hitting righty’s enough to play everyday.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 29, 2011 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions
There has to be a non-zero chance that this season is a fluke.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Sep 29, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions
How does this compare with the lead balloon what was Andruw Jones?
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 29, 2011 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
yeah, but it was still a pretty big cliff from decline to KP (smile Silverwidow)
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 29, 2011 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Very close, difference was that in 2010 Dunn was very very good. Jones, not so much.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 29, 2011 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions
I know that’s a joke, but…… if the Dodgers can get Chicago to eat much of that salary… shouldn’t they at least explore such a trade?
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Sep 29, 2011 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Maybe he’s got Lou Gerhig problems?
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 29, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions
He’s the luckiest man on the face of the earth?
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Sep 29, 2011 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions
I still think he can be a .300/.370/.480 or so guy
Just not worth 15-16 mill unless his defense turns elite pretty quick.
How many third basemen OPSed .850 this year?
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by regfairfield on Sep 29, 2011 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions
The last two years have been freakish
I think 3B capable of it next year are Longo, Zimm, Wright, possibly MY (if he even qualifies at that point), Beltre, Aram, Arod, Lawrie, and probly not much else. Out of those guys maybe 4 or 5 might do it.
I’d rather have Beltran for the same money. JMO
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 29, 2011 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
Look at us, all convinced by Colletti’s statements that the Dodgers have money. We children are nestled, all snug in our beds, while visions of Fielder dance in our heads.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Sep 29, 2011 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
If kuroda leaves
we might have the money anyways. Or its even worse and we don’t even have that money for kuroda
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
The mind boggles.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Sep 29, 2011 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
I don’t believe him unless he means he’s been allowed to move his deck chairs around so he can spend money on a premium free agent. Those deck chairs being Andre and Chad.
If Ned adds a 9 digit free agent while keeping Andre and Chad I’ll be as astonished I was last night watching Dan Johnson hit a 2 / 2 pitch with two outs into the right field bleachers to complete a comeback for the ages.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 29, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
I don’t know how he trades Billingsley. Not only do the Dodgers already need to sign at least one SP (and probably two), but his deal reduces his value. Billingsley wouldn’t get much.
Ethier is another story. His trade value is probably lower than it’s been in some time, but I believe that if he is shopped well, there are teams that would give up good pieces for him. And the “Loney to LF” bullshit — which I believe was bullshit when it was reported — could actually come to fruition that way.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Sep 29, 2011 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions
but his deal reduces his value. Billingsley wouldn’t get much.
No
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Chad has a good contract, he has plenty of value.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Sep 29, 2011 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I phrased myself poorly. I like Chad’s deal, mostly because I know a lot about Chad because he pitches for my team. But Chad signed his big deal and then finished with an ERA+ that is worse than that of the much-maligned Ted Lilly. That is going to mean a lot to a lot of teams.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 29, 2011 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
That he’s a pitcher in his mid 20s with a 3/35 contract is gonna mean a lot too.
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by regfairfield on Sep 29, 2011 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
You’re probably right. Anyway, I don’t see him getting traded anyway, because I don’t think Colletti has the low-cost option to replace him.
I guess all I mean to say is that perception can sometimes mean as much as reality, and if the Dodgers attempt to him, the perception will be, “You know a lot about this guy, you signed him to a big deal, he had a disappointing season, and now you want to move him,” and the stink will be on that. There are probably teams that see him as a good bounce-back candidate, sure, of course — but are there enough of those teams to raise his value to where it belongs?
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 29, 2011 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
back to the point, do you think Ned is really going to sign a new FA while keeping this team intact?
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 29, 2011 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I think he will, I think he almost has to. Despite how we finished, this team obviously still needs another offensive piece and I don’t think he will be content to count on a comeback from Uribe to do it.
The team might need to sign a big guy and Ned may be 100% on board with that.
That doesn’t mean Frank or the bankruptcy court will allow it.
Pujols or Fielder may be out of reach, but I don’t see anyone throwing up roadblocks if he wants to go after Ramirez.
either a new tv deal
or a new owner
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 29, 2011 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
For this offseason
the only hope is a new TV deal. We aren’t getting a new owner anytime soon.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2011 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I have no idea. The big questions are, what is payroll going to be, and does Kuroda want to come back or return to Japan?
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 29, 2011 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Really:) His ERA+ is going to mean alot to a lot of teams? Maybe to their bloggers.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 29, 2011 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
The bloggers who haven’t come around to x-FIP anyway :)
by Michael White on Sep 29, 2011 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s a lot of shaking like a bowl full of jelly.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 29, 2011 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
A Ram > Beltran >>> Wright on my wishlist. Not really interested in giving up what it would take to get wright and then of course the money he is owed.
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We don't need Beltran
He is too old and on the decline. Plus we shouldn’t spend money on a position that we don’t need. Sands will likely start next year.
by dodgers4life on Sep 29, 2011 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Besides Andre will be gone after 2012. Having Sands as right handed caddy for Andre and health insurance for Beltran would not be the worst plan.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 29, 2011 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Four
Panda
Beltre
Longoria
ARam
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 29, 2011 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions
He was the best of the best
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 29, 2011 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Matt Kemp started 158 of 161 games in CF this year and played 1380 of 1462 innings, 96.4%.
Nobody in the National League has played more defensive innings in the outfield than Kemp (4131.1) in the past three years. In the majors, only Nick Markakis (4194) has played more OF innings from 2009-2011.
I'm just pissed he didn't also lead in Games Played this year like last
because of that missed game from the rain out.
He started a game in a corner? Or did he not start and come in as a PH?
by Michael White on Sep 29, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Kemp started twice at DH, and he had one game where he didn’t start at all, on June 10 in Colorado. Then he batted in the 9th inning and hit a ball that still hasn’t landed.
Dodgers were down 6-0 in the 9th and lost 6-5.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2011 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions
oh yeah
damn he hit that thing far, wow.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 29, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
If Robert Andino isn’t your new favorite player, he should be
“To end the season like this and make Boston go home sad and crying, I’ll take it all day. I’ve got no words for it. You saw Boston’s faces.”
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by regfairfield on Sep 29, 2011 11:39 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
That single will be the highlight of his career.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 29, 2011 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
I love the fact that Napoli ended with a 5.7 fWAR
.320/.414/.632 line in 113 games. It would have been a fail trade even if it was Rivera straight up for Wells, but Napoli on top, then going to the Rangers just makes it all the sweeter.
Why can’t we talk about our 2012 catcher?
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 29, 2011 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
I’d need to see whether or not Napoli can pick up and cradle our shortstop first.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2011 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Guys, c’mon. I can pick up and cradle our shortstop.
/notreally
//evensmallerthantheshortstop
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 29, 2011 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m smaller than the shortstop, but not that much smaller. He has about 4 inches in height and 10 or 15 pounds in weight.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 29, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
That is easily the craziest thing you will ever ever see in a dugout.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 29, 2011 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
I really feel the need to learn more about this ritual
I don’t ever want it to stop
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 29, 2011 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions
This reminds me of a year ago, when I longed for a ban on talking about left field.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 29, 2011 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Are you also an Angel fan?
Santana happened all the way back in 08, we’re still in the first year of the Napoli trade debacle :)
I got to see it first hand last night
dude really punished the angels
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So who has signed more bad free agents?
Ned or Theo?
Seems Theo’s still have time to redeem themselves (not Dice-K tho) but with the nuclear winter awaiting the chowderheads I wonder if some money will just be eaten (I’m looking at you Lackey).
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Difference is that Theo can just say whatever and go get someone else.
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by regfairfield on Sep 29, 2011 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
no doubt that factors into the recklessness
if he goes to the Cubs he can continue the Hendry tradition
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David ORtiz is going to wonder all winter why they didn’t use Aceves in the rotation.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 29, 2011 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Why wouldn’t you start the man with the greatest winning percentage of all time?
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by regfairfield on Sep 29, 2011 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions
I saw Ortiz hit two of the hardest hit singles in history the last few days. With his wheels, he didn’t even think of trying for second base.
I’m told base cloggers are not a bad thing.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 29, 2011 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Decent chance there is a Theo / Tito power play this winter, and it’s either/or. One could be gone.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2011 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Is anyone else of the idea
That since the Red Sox after making history with their collapse will go out and go crazy in the free agent market? I could see them signing Fielder or Pujols (Pujols seems more likely to me), not resigning Ortiz, and then possibly trade Youk for some pitching and getting someone else to play 3B.
Right
They had a 7.08 ERA in September.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2011 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Everytime I turned around Bard seemed to be getting worked.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 29, 2011 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Red Sox starters in September
just quick and dirty, by ERA:
Jon Lester: 6 starts, 5.40 ERA
John Lackey: 5, 9.13
Tim Wakefield: 4, 5.25
Josh Beckett: 4, 5.48
Erik Bedard: 3, 5.25
Kyle Weiland: 3, 7.36
Andrew Miller: 2, 11.70
Wakefield, Weiland, and Miller each also pitched in relief in September. Their ERAs reflect everything together.
Holy fuck that is terrible.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2011 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Erik Bedard: 3, 5.25
That 5.25 ERA is tied for their best with Wakefield! Good gosh, without that trade, they’d have been even worse.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 29, 2011 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Ted Lilly meanwhile …………………..
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 29, 2011 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions
You kill us.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 29, 2011 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Boston’s starting pitchers in September averaged 4.75 innings per start. They basically performed, as a whole, like the 2010 Dodgers’ group of 5th starters, the Ely/Monk brigade.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2011 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Great Idea Eric
We can trade them Ely and Monk
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 29, 2011 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
proposal
if LAD allocate Kuroda $$ somewhere else this winter, would you take Lackey as a 5th starter if the Red Sox eat his salary?
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If the Red Sox eat his salary? Are we talking his entire salary (Dodgers pay the minimum)? If so…. Why not? The Dodgers have the roster spot, and if he sucks, they can release him.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 29, 2011 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
For them to eat his entire salary we’d have to give up some sort of prospect. Lackey is horrible and not worth a prospect.
I guess I was assuming that Lackey coming over was part of some larger, complicated trade for another player that the Dodgers would actually want, and that the Dodgers would give up players for that guy and also have to take Lackey and money (as the Red Sox need the roster spot).
Lackey plus money for a good prospect and nothing else involved? No, no team would do that.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 29, 2011 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
this was my thinking
he would be a throw in as part of a larger Dre trade
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Probably they would not have to eat the whole thing. Lackey had a bad month, but before that he was an unlucky pitcher ERA wise. Not good by any means but not the worse pitcher in baseball type of numbers he threw up in Sept. I’d have to look deeper but I would not say no just based on his ERA.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 29, 2011 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions
That's why I think they might get Pujols (or fielder) and trade Youk
who should be very valuable and could bring back a very nice pitcher. Youk for Billingsley and Webster!
/Don’t really want to trade Bills
You guys can pine over Wright, give me Youk anyday of the week.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 29, 2011 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions
aren’t Youk and Pedroia signed to really team friendly deals ?
by NotJoeTorre on Sep 29, 2011 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Cause if any team needed a discount to make ends meet it is the Red Sox.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 29, 2011 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Very much so
Pedroia has 3 years, $28.5 million guaranteed left through 2014, plus an option for 2015 that could increase it to $39m.
Youkilis has one year left at $12 million, plus a $13 million club option for 2013 with a $1 million buyout.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2011 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Lowrie, played there while Youk has been hurt. You might have noticed him missing this month.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 29, 2011 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't see the point of it then
That might actually make them worse
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
I think there's a 90% chance
Pujols>Ortiz in 2012, and 100% chance Pujols>>>Ortiz the next 5 years. They would lose part of their (spectacular) offense with Youk, but gain a pitcher close to or equally as good as him in value to make their pitching staff less shitty. Actually, they may not get 1 pitcher as good as him, but they could get someone young and valuable and then a prospect or two for Youk. Honestly I think unless they just go sign Wilson this would make them better off.
Yes. That’s why we have to get our schaudenfreud in now.
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by regfairfield on Sep 29, 2011 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
No on trading Youk
No on signing Fielder or Pujols
Yes on getting busy for pitching.
Expect Larvnway, Lowrie or Scutaro to get moved.
They need a right fielder.
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 29, 2011 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
they say Kalish and Reddick are the future but I don’t buy that.
by NotJoeTorre on Sep 29, 2011 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Ethier picked a bad time to get hurt and have his power bottom out
we could definitely do business with Boston…Sands in RF and Beltran in LF
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Sands in RF,Loney in LF, and Prince at 1B.
by dodgers4life on Sep 29, 2011 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Would not shock me at all if Andre is in Boston
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by Phil Gurnee on Sep 29, 2011 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t see Boston trading for a left handed bat. I know they will have turnover but I just don’t see them wanting another lefty. Not as a first choice at least.
Drew and Ortiz are both free agents. They have Ellsbury/Gonzalez/Crawford as LH but Youkilis and Pedroia as good RH. And their LH hitters don’t have huge L/R splits to worry about. Their lineup is just not the issue.
I think Drew said
he’s going to retire.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 29, 2011 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions
rot in hell?
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by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 29, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions
heh
My Dad loathes him.
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by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 29, 2011 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Saturday's playoff schedule of awesomeness
D’Backs/Brewers: 11:00 am
Cardinals/Phillies: 2:00 pm
Rays/Rangers: 4:00 pm (TNT)
Tigers/Yankees: 5:30pm
I’ll be at the Coliseum for half of that but that’s a heck of a playoff day.
I always liked him too. Plus he calls Vin his idol, so he can’t be all bad.
by Michael White on Sep 29, 2011 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions
YES! Was so excellent.
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I'm not sure I like his writing style
I’ve written this before: I never argue with people who say baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn’t. And that’s what makes it great.
Statements like that don’t really do much for me.
by Michael White on Sep 29, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions
a drop in the ocean of beautiful things he has written
Soul of Baseball, The Machine
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 29, 2011 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Jayson Stark's year end award picks
http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/7029954/mlb-award-winners-2011-major-league-baseball-season
Gives his justification for Braun over Kemp (WHATever! j/k, I do get it, to an extent.)
And why he goes Kershaw for CY (of course).
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Sorry if this was posted earlier
but thought this was cool from the Dodgers FYI article from Dylan Hernandez:
Near the end of the Dodgers’ team meeting Monday, Kershaw stood up and announced he had something to say.
He said he wanted Kuroda to return next season.
“He knows how we feel,” Kershaw said. “We love him here. If he decides to go back to Japan, we understand. That’s his home. He will be a tough person and a tough player to replace, if he decides to go home to Japan.”
Also
from Hernandez’s look ahead to 2012, on Juan Uribe:
His performance was so substandard that Mattingly said he isn’t guaranteed a starting position next year.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2011 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
do we give ned credit
for fixing the terrible terrible team he put together in the offseason by the moves he made from July-on?
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Sep 29, 2011 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Wasted money without giving in house player an oportunity to grow on the big stage.
Velez.
Holding on to injured players instead of bringing up in house replacements, thus shortening the bench.
Work put in by the coaching staff to help slumping players evolve (#7).
Waited to long to return AJ to the big club.
by Grimjack on Sep 29, 2011 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I’ll give him credit for bringing in Rivera off the scrap heap though.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2011 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions
muchas
and I will give him credit for not trading Matt Kemp when it seemed that everyone but us was begging him not too
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 29, 2011 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Trading Furcal for something of questionable value and trading Trayvon Robinson for something of questionable value?
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by regfairfield on Sep 29, 2011 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Both Furcal and Trayvon have questionable value themselves. For Furcal we got future questionable value and for Trayvon we got not having to watch Trayvon Robinson.
That was a big get for Tray.
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by regfairfield on Sep 29, 2011 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions
leadership baby
our baby boy is all growns up
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 29, 2011 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
that's really cool
I’m sure that goes a long way with Kuroda
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by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 29, 2011 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
More pimping
http://www.truebluela.com/2011/9/29/2458303/fifth-annual-tbla-postseason-contest?login=1317325712
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Tony Jackson:
Dodgers looking at Japanese pitcher Tsuyoshi Wada.
Wada, 30, entered this season with a 41-31 record and a 3.30 ERA in four seasons with the Hawks, during which he made 88 starts and two relief appearances. This year, he is 13-5 and ranks third in the Pacific League with a 1.70 ERA.I wonder if Wada is vehemently against steroids.
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One concern with Wada, the source said, is whether he can adjust to pitching every fifth day, as starting pitchers in the U.S. major leagues normally do, instead of once a week as starters in the Japanese leagues do. This, however, is a common concern with most Japanese pitchers looking to jump to the U.S., and alleviating that concern is all part of the routine scouting process for such players, that process tending to be lengthy.
His English name
Needs to be Johnny
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
True story:
I once worked with a Jon Wada.
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Numbers look solid, scouting report looks terrible
Wada, 31 in February, is a Dallas Braden type with “a 86-87 mph fastball, a good circle change, and a solid slider,” in the opinion of Newman. Newman’s biggest concern is whether Wada could handle the innings required of an MLB starting pitcher.
But we’ve had a ton of success in Japan so why not.
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by regfairfield on Sep 29, 2011 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Colin Wyers wrote a very awesome article on Baseball Prospectus on dealing with the pain of sports losing. It’s free. And so good.
Sabean
Sabean said the biggest improvement for next year needs to be defense and baserunning, and that’s where any free-agent money might go. He also said they need an upgrade at center field and the leadoff spot. Coco Crisp, anyone?
Oh, please, please focus on defense and baserunning.
/dontbelievesabeanforasecond
In the MLBTR blog post about the Giants today they also mentioned how they will focus on pitching first
I mean, I get not resting on their laurels, they could have depth concerns and so on. But really, was pitching their issue this year? So yes, please focus on defense, pitching and baserunning. :)
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They meant pitching was their focus as in they are going to try to extend Cain before they do anything else, and if Lincecum wants to talk they will. Not add pitching necessarily.
Sounds like they may bring him back and have him compete for 5th starter spot
with Zito according to that article (buahahahahahaha)
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all indications are
they are going to tender him. I think Sabean said something like both him and Zito will have to compete for a rotation spot
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by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 29, 2011 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
YES!
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by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 29, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Noooo! I don't want the Giants getting anything decent for him. Want them stuck with him
more than I want Boston stuck with him.
Though if they’d made trade for him for 1 start this week I would’ve laughed.
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Ah, that makes a bit more sense. Yeah, like the Dodgers have their own extension issues
so too do the Giants, that makes more sense.
I heard Sabean on the radio here yesterday (he sounds similar to Colletti btw, not just in what he says but his voice) And he said priority was finding a leadoff hitter. Which is why they’re interested in CoCo Crispy Cereal.
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They shitcanning Torres after one down year:)
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More like a year after his one good year ever :-)
he’s also 33 years old.
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The Coco Crisp thing was a guess by Hank Schulman and not Sabean saying they would pursue him. I don’t think sabean can or would talk about specific free agents just yet.
Right true
I’d heard Crisp mentioned by others, too, but all just local pundits and radio people wondering aloud, so not really anything real.
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Meh
Crisp played in Oakland, so it was an easy name to pull. We’ll see as the offseason progresses, but I bet whoever they sign they’ll be disappointed with.
Andruw Jones? :)
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if I was at a bar, and the bartender grabbed a condom off his prick and threw it at me, I would call the police
by Josie Becker on Sep 29, 2011 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions
not all double standards go against women!
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by nolander on Sep 29, 2011 7:01 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
1.92 ERA since June 16th.
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by regfairfield on Sep 29, 2011 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions
pretty amazing turnaround
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by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 29, 2011 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions
More unexpected home run
Dan Johnson off Cory Wade in the 9th inning last night or Mike Scioscia off Doc Gooden in Game 4 of the 1988 NLCS?
Was Scioscia’s so unexpected that he hit a guy in the sack?
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by regfairfield on Sep 29, 2011 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Johnson vs Wade was crap vs crap
(his HR also was inside the right field pocket not exactly crushed). Scioscia wasn’t known for his power but was a good hitter, but Gooden was a great pitcher so… I don’t know, they kind of even each other out, but I’d still vote Scioscia’s the more impressive.
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Al Weis off Dave McNally in the 1969 WS.
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Nice pull
How about McNally hitting a grand slam though I have no idea who it was off of.
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Bah
McNally’s second WS home run. (I don’t remember either, looked it up.) The GS was off Wayne Granger in 1970 (looked that up too). The first one was in ’69, the historic last game of the WS, off Koosman to open the scoring.
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uhoh
erictortiz: Theo Epstein on #RedSox players in clubhouse: “I have a ton of respect for almost all of them.”
I tell you one thing Depodesta NEVER threw a player or coach under the bus.
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he continued: “But Crawford got me socks for my birthday. Ass”
by Josie Becker on Sep 29, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
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by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 29, 2011 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Good lord, should be an entertaining offseason in the Hub.
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by Humma Kavula on Sep 29, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
so
it begins………
/otter.jpg
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by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 29, 2011 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Otter?
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south park reference
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by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 29, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Running Down a Dream
is running over and over in my head today.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I picture Papelbon sitting in his mansion with his one-sided beer pong table playing You’re All I’ve Got Tonight over and over
heh
like the ping pong table in forest gump?
by Josie Becker on Sep 29, 2011 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Hate to say it..........
but we simply have to sign Barajas now
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Funny
the team who is entering the playoffs with the most emotion is the one who made exactly 0 in-season trades. Tampa.
i saw that
best thing they did was NOT trade BJ Upton
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by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 29, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
LOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Sep 29, 2011 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions
the craddling is too adorable
that is sitcom level cute right there
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 29, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions
David Ortiz would make a great Ray in 2012.
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hell sands had an ops of 601 in his first 156 ABs. Course he wasn’t striking out 38 percent of the time. Look what he has done since then. Can’t bury Tray yet.
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the swings I saw Tray take against the Angels in September were the same ones I saw in March. Sands improved because he adapted. Too soon, sure, but all the warnings signs are there.
yes
the SOs that I worried about when he was in the dodger system are still teh reason to worry about him now. Sands being sent down to work on his swing has worked out very well so far
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Yeah, but it wasn’t so much THAT he was striking out, but HOW he was striking out. Dude was getting low 90’s fastballs thrown by him because he would armbar and swing around them.
Sands, like Joe said, was cheating (and still is, yes), but has a better idea of what having an actual approach is like. Positive isgns abound.
but it wasn’t so much THAT he was striking out
to me, when you are striking out at a clip higher then 30 percent, all that really matters is you are striking out way to f’ing much
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not that you are wrong
but his strikeout rate alone was reason for concern without any need for deeper analysis
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I want to see the next set of Jerry adaptions
I think he is cheating a bit and will get caught
adapts again and I am on the last train to clarksville and a believer
I so want to be a believer
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 29, 2011 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions
he made good adjustments in the middle of the season
imagine what he can do given an entire off-season to work on his batting mechanics?
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Sep 29, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions
imagine an entire off season for hitting coaches to find his weakness and relay them to their pitchers.
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I’ve come not to praise Tray, but to tell you hold off on buying him
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 29, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Julius Caesar – Mark Anthony’s eulogy
stuck a cord for some reason
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 29, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Juan Rivera in 2012
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by Pure Azure on Sep 29, 2011 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Guess this player
2008 OPS+ 93
2009 – not enough major league at bats
2010 OPS+ 92
2011 OPS+ 95
WHen I saw this a few day ago his OPS+ in 2011 was 91 for perfect symmetry but he must have gotten hot the last few games.
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Total guess is J.D. Drew, but I have no idea. I’m thrown off about 2009 whether you mean qualified for the batting title or just that he played a scant few games.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2011 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions
From Bodog
World Series and Pennant Odds
Odds to win the 2011 World Series
Philadelphia Phillies 7/4
New York Yankees 4/1
Detroit Tigers 7/1
Milwaukee Brewers 15/2
Tampa Bay Rays 8/1
Texas Rangers 8/1
Arizona Diamondbacks 14/1
St. Louis Cardinals 14/1
Odds to win the 2011 AL Pennant
New York Yankees 3/2
Tampa Bay Rays 4/1
Texas Rangers 13/4
Detroit Tigers 13/4
Odds to win the 2011 NL Pennant
Philadelphia Phillies 4/7
Milwaukee Brewers 15/4
Arizona Diamondbacks 6/1
St. Louis Cardinals 13/2
2011 World Series Exact Matchup
Detroit Tigers vs. Arizona Diamondbacks 28/1
Detroit Tigers vs. Milwaukee Brewers 18/1
Detroit Tigers vs. Philadelphia Phillies 11/2
Detroit Tigers vs. St. Louis Cardinals 28/1
New York Yankees vs. Arizona Diamondbacks 14/1
New York Yankees vs. Milwaukee Brewers 10/1
New York Yankees vs. Philadelphia Phillies 5/2
New York Yankees vs. St. Louis Cardinals 15/1
Tampa Bay Rays vs. Arizona Diamondbacks 30/1
Tampa Bay Rays vs. Milwaukee Brewers 20/1
Tampa Bay Rays vs. Philadelphia Phillies 13/2
Tampa Bay Rays vs. St. Louis Cardinals 33/1
Texas Rangers vs. Arizona Diamondbacks 25/1
Texas Rangers vs. Milwaukee Brewers 18/1
Texas Rangers vs. Philadelphia Phillies 11/2
Texas Rangers vs. St. Louis Cardinals 28/1
secret sauce
in terms of playoff success secret sauce which team looks the best? yankees? detroit?
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Sep 29, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions
He was once listed as less then a prospect then my guy
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my Kemp adoration is bordering on creepy these days
Good thing the season ended, I really need to dial it back a notch
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 29, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
good guess
I put up Braun’s numbers and stick a knife in my skull please
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 29, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Velez?
Oh, I thought that said -171…
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Man it really has been a long season
that amazing Mitchell Castro game against the White Sox feels like it was ages ago.
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It feels like a month ago that I was sitting at a bar with my buddy
doing predictions for the divisions, playoffs, and awards. I had top 3 in NL CY as Hanson, Greinke, Kershaw (purposefully leaving out Doc because it was obvious he’d be up there) top 3 in MVP voting as Pujols, Fielder, Wright. I had Boston vs Atlanta (oops) in the World Series.
Hooray for great predictions!
In my Scoresheet League MATT HITS 40
Runs Hits Home Runs Runs Batted In
10 Votto,Jo 113 9 Gonzalez,Ad 218 11 Teixeira,Ma 40 11 Teixeira,Ma 128
1 Fielder,Pr 108 9 Castro,St 213 3 Kemp,Ma 40 6 Pujols,Al 120
3 Kemp,Ma 108 3 Kemp,Ma 201 12 Reynolds,Ma 39 3 Kemp,Ma 115
6 Pujols,Al 103 11 Bourn,Mi 198 1 Fielder,Pr 39 3 Upton,Ju 114
1 Braun(Mil),Ry 102 10 Votto,Jo 192 6 Pujols,Al 38 8 Howard,Ry 111
3 Upton,Ju 101 3 Cabrera,Mi 190 8 Howard,Ry 37 1 Fielder,Pr 104
9 Castro,St 100 1 Braun(Mil),Ry 190 2 Uggla,Da 35 9 Gonzalez,Ad 103
9 Gonzalez,Ad 99 5 Cano,Ro 188 1 Braun(Mil),Ry 34 3 Cabrera,Mi 102
3 Cabrera,Mi 98 7 Pence,Hu 187 2 Stanton,Mi 34 6 Tulowitzki,Tr 101
8 Howard,Ry 96 10 Phillips,Br 186 6 Berkman,La 33 5 Beltran,Ca 101
6 Berkman,La 96 6 Pujols,Al 180 10 Bruce,Ja 33 10 Bruce,Ja 97
2 Sanchez,Ga 95 6 Ramirez,Ar 178 3 tied with 31 6 Ramirez,Ar 96
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43
Kershaw led the league in ERA 2.32, K’s 260 .
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Rested Ogando was throwing bee bee’s this week. Hell of a bullpen for the Rangers going into this series.
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rangers gm's goal at the deadline
was to make the pen idiot/ron washington proof
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Sep 29, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Anyone have the balls to troll Michael Chiklis?
7 championships in 4 sports in 9 years. Boston Mass. #1 in sports. You haters have your fun but that’s a fact you’ll just have to deal with.
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oh I bet you loved this
MichaelChiklis Michael Chiklis
You gotta hand it to us, whether we win or lose in Boston, it’s always like nothing you’ve ever seen. Magnificent or car accident brutal.
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hey dummy
dont you live in sherman oaks. stfu.
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Sep 29, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions
if he loves it so much he should go back
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Sep 29, 2011 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions
he is rather correct
Boston has had a ton of incredible sports moments, both good and bad. The arrogance is another matter.
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I actually liked that 2nd tweet, seemed to capture it a little better than the other much more defensive tweet
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People are afraid of an actor who plays a tough guy?
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ouch
At age 20, Chiklis shaved his head to look like he had male-pattern baldness for his role as a 95-year-old man in You Can’t Take It With You. Instead of using powder on his head (as he did on his face), he used greasepaint, and he failed to remove it properly at the end of each day. This killed the hair follicles on his head, essentially shaping his career in many ways. Chiklis has said in an NPR interview that this was a very traumatic experience as a young actor, and is the reason he wore a hairpiece in Wired.
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Dodgers hired a new point man for arbitration
Alex Tamin, who is Director of Baseball Contracts, Research and Operations.
He is a lawyer who has represented teams in arb cases for 15 years, among other things and, according to the press release, “In his role, Tamin will work with Colletti on all contract negotiations and be the chief point person on all arbitration cases. In addition, Tamin will oversee the day-to-day baseball research and operations.”
awesoke
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by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 29, 2011 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey - Dee Gordon beat out Jerry Sands for Rookie of the Month
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I find it hard to believe our Runs leaderboard
1. Kemp—115
2. Ethier—67
3. Loney—56
4. Carroll—52
5. Miles—49
6. Gwynn—37
That’s not a drop-off. That’s a sheer cliff. Kemp for MVP.
Edwin Jackson will start Game 2
For the Cardinals
As anyone the Phillie pitching is impressive, everyone else not so much.
Pupols
Holliday
Berkman
Even Halladay might have trouble navigating that threesome four times.
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That’s why you just make sure they only get three at-bats :)
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2011 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Can anyone figure out why TLR would start EJ in game two over Garcia?
When did Garcia last pitch?
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others have said that was reason too, though Keith Law disagrees fwiw
keithlaw keithlaw
No. Home/road split this year is almost entirely due to BABIP. "dvit6: @keithlaw @OuttaHere22 He’s a much better pitcher at home"
Oh well, I’m sure TLR has reasons…
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Better to say a player hit a home run, rather than he "walloped"‘ or "‘blasted"‘ or "cracked" it. Home runs are also homers, but avoid calling them "dingers," "‘jacks," "bombs," "taters" and "four-baggers." Pitchers can pitch two-hitters, but avoid "twirling" or "chucking" or "fireballing." And teams try to reach the World Series instead of the "Fall Classic." In short, avoid hackneyed words and phrases.
by Josie Becker on Sep 29, 2011 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions
avoid calling them “dingers,” “‘jacks,” “bombs,” “taters” and “four-baggers.”
Disband the AP.
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by regfairfield on Sep 29, 2011 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions
whoever wrote that guide wasn't a fan of the old Batman TV series
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instead, call homers “circuit clouts”.
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When I was a boy, we had a little step in the bathroom that allowed us to reach the sink faucet, which had the following poem and matching drawing painted on it.
Wash your hands, neat as a pin.When you write “circuit clouts”, I flash back to that thing.
Circus clowns come marching in.
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I blame B-Ref
Blue Jays make the playoffs in two years, Angels next year
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Ernie Banks
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by regfairfield on Sep 29, 2011 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm on board
with New Girl. Pilot was pretty funny, douchebag jar made me laugh every time
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I like it too, but TV is out of control right now
call me old fashioned but this word, “douchebag”, cannot leave the lexicon fast enough
certainly doesn’t belong on network TV
If my 14 year old nephew said it in front of me I would smack his head
The problem is, it is an addicting phrase and if you hear it enough, you will use it. I know I have….
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 29, 2011 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I was always surprised back in the day when “scumbag” was widely used, given that it means a used condom.
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The things you learn on TBLA, eh?
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by Josie Becker on Sep 29, 2011 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Some link recently had a crossword puzzle where this clue appeared in the across or down section:
69 The ______ mightier than the sword
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I remember once a math teacher wrote on the board: The dog pen is 10 feet by 11 feet
by Josie Becker on Sep 29, 2011 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions
prison slang for a passive male homosexual
by Josie Becker on Sep 29, 2011 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions
go deeper
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punk_rock#Etymology
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the etymology is fun
punk means prostitute, related to spunk which is brit slang for semen.
by Josie Becker on Sep 29, 2011 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I am all for creative and funny ways to call someone a jerk, loser, whatever… I think “Douche” in all forms is a little rough for the 8PM to 10PM slot
but hey, I am also anti-cum joke, so I am not really so fun on this stuff
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 29, 2011 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions
the term douche
and cum jokes are pretty far apart imho.
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that is better for your 14 year old nephew?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Except when said by Ghandi in the movie trailer for Ghandi II
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2011 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Jason Heyward available?
From MLB Trade Rumors: the Braves might be open to dealing Heyward.
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/09/braves-notes-heyward-chipper-coaches.html
Might the Dodgers be interested in this? Ethier for Heyward, straight up?
we have said that too many times
for me to believe it anymore
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One year of Andre for five years of Heyward?
How about Sands, Mitchell, DeJesus, Lindsey, HOffman, Aussie, Van Slyke, Silverio, Tolleson, Uribe, and Guerrier
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I would give all 11 of those guys for Heyward….in a second
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 29, 2011 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
throw in Sellers, Link, Ely, Gibbons, and Vector
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Frank Wren did trade Yunel Escobar for Alex Gonzalez.
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by regfairfield on Sep 29, 2011 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Exactly
and someone recently traded Rasmus who is comparable to Heyward for a LH relief pitcher and a one year starter.
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Yunel by the way, the only major league SS with a double digit walk rate
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So assuming that’s even kinda comparable, Ethier and Kenley?
They can then trade Kenley for Kyle Farnsworth.
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by regfairfield on Sep 29, 2011 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Then again Alex Gonzalez was playing way over his head at the time.
Honestly if there’s no actual chance we can resign Kemp, Kemp for Heyward.
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by regfairfield on Sep 29, 2011 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes – on the surface it seems absurd – but the Braves will be desperate to put a new face on the team after their monumental collapse. Teams in duress make bad decisions (sometimes). Perhaps Eithier plus other young players (Webster? Lee?) for Heyward.
If not – what sort of a package would the Braves be looking for from any team?
My first group had who I thought would win, then I said screw it and went with who I want to win every series.
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I spent 30 seconds and made rushed, snap decisions.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2011 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions
That's my model for everything
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
I picked the same teams as GScott?!
That’s embarressing
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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Soon you will start looking like each other:)
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They probably already
finish each other’s sentences
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
and be willing to spend seven innings in separate parts of the stadium.
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If I had written “sections” instead of “parts”, that’s pretty good alliteration / assonance.
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Terra Nova absolutely blows
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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Jose Reyes really should've played the full game or really should've sat out
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“What is the deal with Jose Reyes?”
“Why don’t they call it batball? You use a bat more than you use a base!”
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2011 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions
We had so much other stuff happen yesterday and people still care about that?
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by regfairfield on Sep 29, 2011 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions
This really doesn't bother me
Plus, I hate Bill Dwyre (as a columnist)
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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
I thought he retired or was put to pasture
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Nobody really retires there
They just become wirters
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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Ryan Braun should have hit for a higher average.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2011 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Easy to say with Braun but would you have said that if Matt Kemp was the guy chasing him?
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There is an unsavory element and distaste to Reyes sitting out, but I think people are making too big a deal of it.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2011 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Is it true he bunted for a hit in his one PA before coming out?
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See, that is the real chicken move. Sit out the whole game and dare Braun to catch you. Or start and come out without batting so the fans can cheer you. But bunt????
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He's a wether
it might also have been his last game as a Met. The fans booed when he exited.
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really? That’s how you want to celebrate winning the batting title, with boos? And really Mets fans? The first batting title ever in your organization, and you boo?
by Josie Becker on Sep 29, 2011 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions
They came to watch him play in his last game with the team, not play for an inning then GTFO.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2011 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Somehow
This is DePodesta’s fault
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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
I'll play this

for Mets fans. You show up for the last game of the season and it means nothing in the standings, you better expect the scrubs. A short day and out for the regulars is the best you can hope for.
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Dave?
The man makes a living by using his speed.
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In what you know is the one PA in your last game of the season and you are the batting champion to be? Take a whack at it!
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I was thinking about this
Bunting isn’t very successful is it? Otherwise they’d do it all the time. I actually think the idiot took a bigger risk to his avg. by bunting.
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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
According to BRef in his career he has attempted 156 bunts, resulting in 128 official at bats, and has collected 62 singles for a .484 batting average.
So no, not an idiot move.
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Steve Garvey bunting for a hit not impressive given the 3rd baseman is always playing back but when guys like Reyes and Butler can get bunt hits when the infielder knows they might be bunting. That is some skill.
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I was looking this up on Baseball-Reference
I found the 62 bunt hits, and I found the 28 sacrifices (difference of 156-128), but where did you see the 156 bunt attempts?
I would look this up on Bill James Online, but apparently my subscription expired.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2011 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions
The bunt line says
156 PA
128 AB
62 Hits
62 Singles
That is what I went with.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=reyesjo01&year=Career&t=b
ha ha , One RBI
NO bunt doubles, I bet Gordon has a few of those
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Ah, the splits page
I was using the full batting page here.
Thanks.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2011 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Dee 7 for 18 so far on bunting for a hit.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2011 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I wonder how many times
he has tried and fouled it off. Seems like he tries once a game, or used to.
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or like the second Loney bunt attempt in Atlanta, when Loney got two strikes due to bunt attempts, then struck out. Don’t think those count, but I could be wrong.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2011 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Brett Butler, not surprisingly, hit .486 on bunt attempts from 1988-1997 (bunt tracking goes back to 1988).
He was 42 for 71, hitting .592 on bunt attempts in 1992
No career bunt doubles (or at least 1988-1997) and 7 RBI
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2011 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Rafael Furcal has 3 career bunt doubles
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2011 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions
and a lifetime sponsorship from Band-aids brand bandages
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 29, 2011 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh he won the title fair and square, but as you say it was distasteful. I don’t care about it nearly as much as sportswriters seem to, but it was a notable PR blunder. I always like those.
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No doubt
Plus, factor in it could have been his last game as a Met and is was just dumb.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2011 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions
The NL MVP contest
Part of me thinks Braun will win. Ultimately, a lot of their numbers are quite comparable to one another. But one things finally gets me, even if Kemp isn’t a great CF, he is contributing defensively in center field, a position no one would dare dream to play Braun. Braun is a decent LF, but how hard is it be above average in LF when the competition includes the likes of Thames, Gibbons, Rivera, everyone the Giants threw out there, etc.
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The offside argument no one likes is that Braun helped lead the charge to hunt down the Cardinals so every game was important until they had the comfortable lead.
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yeah but Kemp did his job while on a team that was terrible and offered no protection in the lineup. I’d say it’s harder to show up every day and work your ass of when your team isn’t good then when everyone else around you is working their ass off and there are results.
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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Braun did it in a pennant chase but it was easier to stay focused, Kemp’s played many meaningless games but where it could be hard to stay focused.
No one know if any of that matters. I think we all agree that CF defense is more important than LF defense. It’s why we sing the praises of Willie, Mickey and the Duke.
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If Defense meant dick in the MVP voting in the last 44 years someone forgot to tell the writers.
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I don’t think Jimmy Rollins wins his without being a SS.
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If Ryan Braun was gone the Brewers would have had to give 150 starts to Carlos Gomez. If that’s not valuable I don’t know what is.
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by regfairfield on Sep 29, 2011 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Wouldn’t have had to give 150 starts to Tony Gwynn Junior who is basically the left handed version of that player?
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We could have started TO.
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by regfairfield on Sep 29, 2011 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions
He’s the poor man’s Ethier; it would have worked out.
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Check out this pic of Dee Gordon
The swagster himself:
by JonWeisman on Sep 29, 2011 4:50 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
hahahahahaha
that is amazing
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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And I remember Watermelon Man
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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
I saw that on TV in the mid-70s. Shocked the hell out of me. Funny but flawed, I recall vaguely.
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there’s a moment in Mad Men where they’re at a Kentucky Derby party, and one of the partners since “My Old Kentucky Home” wearing blackface, and singing the original lyrics: “it’s summer, and the darkies are gay”
by Josie Becker on Sep 29, 2011 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Where Don meets Conrad Hilton
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
I’d like to see Rod try to rock that baby:)
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Sep 29, 2011 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
I saw the word "judge" on Twitter and looked at it funny
and immediately thought to just how dumb Paul Oberjuerge’s column on Matt Kemp was in 2009. And to think, he wrote that in 2009, when Kemp had a great year!
based on what Kemp did in 2011 you could write a book about the stupid things I probably said about him over his career.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
FTFY
you could write a book about the stupid things I probably saidabout him over his career.
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness
You post over seven years, stupid things get said. I’ll only say I think most of stupid comments are comments and not columns. Though saying Martin in 2008 was about to become a MVP candidate for the next decade kind of stands out.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I think I told someone at a Dodger game
“there goes Russel Martin, he’s the real deal, our next hall of famer”
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 29, 2011 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions
7 years?
Good god, I was young 7 years ago!!!
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 29, 2011 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Hell, I’ve said dumb stuff today.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 29, 2011 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
An article on dumb outs on the basepaths
with no mention of The Riot
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
There’s a reason I called him uber-jerky.
magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur
by Humma Kavula on Sep 29, 2011 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions
To the Overlords & Editors of TBLA
Great job this year, guys. Thanks.
(and it helps to have denizens who are the some of the wackiest, funniest, and smartest folk too :))
by jim hitchcock (railway) on Sep 29, 2011 5:18 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Picking the Redskins makes me more comfortable than picking the Eagles, Bears or Packers this week, but I’m sure it’ll be my downfall.
I seem to be the only one using the “pick the unsexiest game possible” strategy. Like, if there was a game going untelevised, and played at midnight, in the snow, that would be the game I’d want to pick
by Josie Becker on Sep 29, 2011 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Good luck and we’re all counting on you.
What a spot for Moore. Looking forward to it.
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