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Dodgers September In Review: A Strong Finish

The Dodgers in August had their best month in a calendar year, going 17-11. In September, they were even better, at 17-9, and finished the season with a winning record.

Dodger Batter of SeptemberMatt Kemp needed a big month to get to 40/40, and he nearly did it, ending with 39 home runs and 40 steals. In the season's final month, Kemp hit .343/.419/.667 with eight home runs. Kemp also scored 28 runs, one of the top run-scoring months ever by a Los Angeles Dodger:

Most Runs Scored, Single Month, LA Dodgers
Player Year Runs
Jim Gilliam Jun 1959 29
Davey Lopes May 1979 29
Maury Wills May 1962 28
Adrian Beltre Aug 2004 28
Matt Kemp Sep 2011 28

Honorable mention goes to James Loney, who hit .348/.400/.587 with 11 doubles and three home runs; and to Jerry Sands, who hit .342/.415/.493.

Dodger Pitcher of SeptemberClayton Kershaw finished his fine campaign by going 4-0 with a 1.30 ERA and 36 strikeouts in five September starts. He gets the nod over Ted Lilly, who was 3-1 with a 1.76 ERA. Kenley Jansen also must be mentioned, as he was third on the team with 32 strikeouts. He pitched 13 2/3 innings.

Dishonorable mention goes to Chad Billingsley, who had the fewest innings of the five starters (ignoring Nathan Eovaldi's one September start) yet still allowed the most walks and runs on the staff.

September Record:  17-9
120 runs scored (4.62 per game)
92 runs allowed (3.54 per game)
.619 pythagorean winning percentage (16-10)

September National League West Standings
Club W-L Pct GB RS RA
Dodgers 17-9 .654 --- 120 92
Diamondbacks   16-9 .640 ½ 119 89
Giants 14-11 .560 110 95
Padres 11-14 .440 79 82
Rockies 9-16 .360 109 132

Season Record:  82-79
644 runs scored (4.00 per game)
612 runs allowed (3.80 per game)
.523 pythagorean winning percentage (84-77)

Final National League West Standings
Club W-L Pct GB RS RA
Diamondbacks 94-68 .580 --- 731 662
Giants 86-76 .531 8 570 578
Dodgers 82-79 .509 11½ 644 612
Rockies 
73-89 .451 21 735 774
Padres 71-91 .438 23 593 611

Star-divide

Game of the Month: The final home game of the year was great, as Matt Kemp said goodbye to the Dodger Stadium fans for the season with three doubles and a towering home run against the Giants, in what could have been Hiroki Kuroda's final home start as a Dodger. But the game of the month was two days earlier, on September 20, when Clayton Kershaw dueled Tim Lincecum for the fourth time this year. Kershaw pitched into the eighth inning and left with a lead, but his 20th win hung in the balance as there were runners on first and second base with Pablo Sandoval and Carlos Beltran due up. Kenley Jansen came in, threw seven pitches, and blew both away, ending the rally, and helping to preserve the win for Kershaw.

Award Worthy: Dee Gordon hit .372/.398/.451 with 12 stolen bases in September, and his 42 hits in the month were second in baseball only to Jacoby Ellsbury's 43 safeties. Gordon was honored with the September National League Rookie of the Month honors.

Pinch Hitting:  For the month, Dodger pinch hitters had six hits in 34 at-bats, including a home run, hitting .176/.263/.265.

Runners in Scoring Position:  In September, the Dodgers hit .273/.381/.446 with runners in scoring position in 284 plate appearances.

They had a runner on third base with less than two outs 60 times, and got the runner home 29 times, or 48.3% (the entire NL scored 399 of 879 times, 45.4%).

They had a runner on second base with nobody out 43 times in September, and the runner advanced 26 times, or 60.5% (the entire NL advanced the runner 310 of 602 times, 51.5%).

 

September Weeks in ReviewSeptember 4 | September 11 | September 18 | September 25 | September 28

Previous Months in Review: April | May | June | July | August

September Stats

Player PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SB/CS BA/OBP/SLG OPS
Kemp 117 102 28 35 7 1 8 24 11 5/4 .343/.419/.667 1.085
Loney 102 92 15 32 11 1 3 17 8 1/0 .348/.400/.587 .987
Sands 83 73 9 25 5 0 2 9 8 0/1 .342/.415/.493 .908
Gordon 119 113 21 42 7 1 0 6 5 12/4 .372/.398/.451 .850
Carroll 63 56 9 17 1 1 0 5 5 0/0 .304/.371/.357 .728
Rivera 97 85 7 22 3 0 2 22 10 2/1 .259/.330/.365 .695
Barajas 54 48 3 8 3 0 1 6 6 0/0 .167/.259/.292 .551
Miles 83 73 8 16 0 0 0 6 8 0/1 .219/.305/.219 .524
Sellers 67 60 5 9 4 0 0 4 4 0/0 .150/.227/.217 .444
Starters
785 702 105 206 41 4 16 99 65 20/11 .293/.359/.432 .790
Ellis 36 31 3 10 1 1 1 4 4 0/0 .323/.417/.516 .933
Mitchell 27 25 2 5 0 0 1 2 2 0/0 .200/.259/.320 .579
Ethier 19 16 2 3 1 0 0 6 3 0/0 .188/.316/.250 .566
Gwynn 31 28 3 6 2 0 0 4 1 3/2 .214/.258/.286 .544
Federowicz 16 13 0 2 0 0 0 1 2 0/0 .154/.313/.154 .466
Oeltjen 17 15 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 2/0 .067/.125/.067 .192
Velez 8 7 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0/0 .000/.125/.000 .125
Bench
154 135 13 27 4 1 2 17 13 5/2 .200/.288/.289 .576
Pitchers
62 51 2 6 0 0 0 1 3 0/1 .118/.167/.118 .284
Totals
1001 888 120 239 45 5 18 117 81 25/14 .269/.337/.392 .729

 

Pitcher G W-L Sv IP H R ER BB K ERA WHIP FIP*
Kershaw 5 4-0 -- 34.2 22 7 5 4 36 1.30 0.750 2.13
Eovaldi 1 0-0 -- 6.0 3 1 1 5 5 1.50 1.333 6.02
Lilly 5 3-1 -- 30.2 18 7 6 11 33 1.76 0.946 2.04
Eveland 5 3-2 -- 29.2 28 10 10 6 16 3.03 1.146 3.19
Kuroda 5 2-2 -- 29.2 31 12 11 3 28 3.34 1.146 4.50
Billingsley 5 1-1 -- 22.2 26 16 13 14 15 5.16 1.765 4.83
Starters 26
13-6 -- 153.1 128 53 46 43 133 2.70 1.115 3.33
Ely 3 0-0 -- 4.0 3 0 0 2 4 0.00 1.250 1.77
Jansen 14 1-0 3 13.2 7 2 2 3 32 1.32 0.732 (0.78)
Elbert 10 0-0 -- 6.0 7 1 1 6 7 1.50 2.167 3.19
MacDougal 9 2-0 -- 7.1 7 2 2 5 8 2.45 1.636 2.88
Guerra 12 0-2 8/9 12.0 7 4 4 8 10 3.00 1.250 5.27
Lindblom 10 0-0 -- 9.1 8 4 4 3 14 3.86 1.179 0.66
Hawksworth 6 0-1 -- 5.2 7 7 3 3 5 4.76 1.765 4.61
Kuo 10 1-0 -- 8.1 4 5 5 5 10 5.40 1.080 4.34
Guerrier 8 0-0 -- 5.2 7 5 5 3 7 7.94 1.765 2.14
Troncoso 6 0-0 -- 5.1 10 6 5 1 7 8.44 2.063 5.83
Eovaldi 4 0-0 -- 2.2 3 3 3 3 0 10.13 2.250 7.52
Relievers 26
4-3 11/12 80.0 70
39 34 42 104 3.83 1.400 2.90
Totals 26
17-9 11/12 233.1 198 92 80 85 237 3.09 1.213 3.18
*FIP is estimated

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Jon Ely was awesome in sept

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 30, 2011 12:03 PM PDT reply actions  

He had three saves? [don’t remember that]

by kinbote on Sep 30, 2011 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Those should go to KJ, I believe.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 30, 2011 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

While we’re at it, can you give Mitchell’s HR to Kemp? ;)

by kinbote on Sep 30, 2011 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like where you’re going with this.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 30, 2011 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gonna be hard for Cy Young voters to avoid voting for a 30-win Clayton Kershaw

by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2011 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Chad only loses 1 September win though.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 30, 2011 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Anyone worried about Stewart's saying if Kemp isn't extended by start of season, that'll be the last chance?

I’m actually not. I think the Dodgers will extend him over the winter. May be naiively optimistic but I think they kind of have to. Already in too much trouble with fanbase.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Sep 30, 2011 12:06 PM PDT reply actions  

Posturing. Hopefully they’ll extend him regardless.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 30, 2011 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not worried

It’s fairly standard, as players generally don’t want the distraction during the season (though it’s not like Kemp won’t be asked a ton about it during the season anyway)

by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2011 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Honroable

oh nooo

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness

by Maddz on Sep 30, 2011 12:09 PM PDT reply actions  

Guerrier got BABIPed like nobody’s business.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 30, 2011 12:14 PM PDT reply actions  

Guerrier got squared up like nobody’s business.

by The Dude Abides on Sep 30, 2011 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bill Shaikin tweet
Bankruptcy court sets key #Dodgers hearing Oct. 31, Nov. 1, 2, 4. “The Court expects the Commissioner and Mr. McCourt to testify in person.”

"Champions last year," he said. "Not this year." - Rubby De La Rosa after shaming the Giants in ST

by EephusBlue on Sep 30, 2011 12:17 PM PDT reply actions  

Bill Shaikin tweets
Bankruptcy court sets key #Dodgers hearing Oct. 31, Nov. 1, 2, 4. “The Court expects the Commissioner and Mr. McCourt to testify in person.”
Big loss for McCourt — Judge Gross: “This hearing is a not a referendum on the Commissioner or other baseball teams …”

by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2011 12:17 PM PDT reply actions  

So what is it, then?

by kinbote on Sep 30, 2011 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Comeuppance.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 30, 2011 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Time to come out

and take his whuppin

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Sep 30, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

interesting

so why does the Commish need to be there?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 30, 2011 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

To testify on his dealings with McCourt and the Dodgers

by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2011 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

but it sounds like

McCourts lawyers aren’t going to be able to confront him about “unfair treatment”

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 30, 2011 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I believe this is what we call “tough titties.”

by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2011 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

It

Is a slippery slope. Let’s say the Court rules that the Dodgers can sell their rights and MLB cannot stand in the way since it will be in the best interest of the business and creditors. MLB will not have much to use in terms of rebuttal if they are precluded in bringing in examples of why they should be allowed to block the deal in the best of baseball since they cannot talk about other teams.

All Court rulings should be viewed with skepticism because what is sometimes seen as a victory one minute may not be viewed that way later.

by bhsportsguy on Sep 30, 2011 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

TWO MEN ENTER ONE MAN LEAVE!

"Champions last year," he said. "Not this year." - Rubby De La Rosa after shaming the Giants in ST

by EephusBlue on Sep 30, 2011 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Does this change the October 12 date

Is October 12 the date where media rights are going to be discussed?

by wineracquet on Sep 30, 2011 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seems to.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 30, 2011 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, see below, I asked the same question.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

[Jerry] Jones said during a Friday appearance on KRLD-FM that the league’s memo reminded teams that mimicking cadence is grounds for a 15-yard penalty for unsportsmanlike conduct.

What’s the baseball equivalent of this? Calling “I got it!” for a pop-up while rounding the bases?

by kinbote on Sep 30, 2011 12:17 PM PDT reply actions  

A-Rod says no.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 30, 2011 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or “swing, batter!”

by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2011 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

pretending that there is throw coming in order to make the batter slide

you can dick with me all you want, you make me slide when I don’t have to and I will expect someone to throw at your ear flap

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 30, 2011 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Swesoke
Kenley Jansen also must be mentioned, as he was third on the team with 32 strikeouts. He pitched 13 2/3 innings.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 30, 2011 12:18 PM PDT reply actions  

Thats just insane

"Champions last year," he said. "Not this year." - Rubby De La Rosa after shaming the Giants in ST

by EephusBlue on Sep 30, 2011 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

On the flip side

Guerra was third on the team with 8 walks. He pitched 10 innings.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 30, 2011 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

(32/16.666666666)*9=HOLY CRAP ARE YOU KIDDING ME RIGHT NOW

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 30, 2011 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

13.6 with a vinculum, but you know where I’m going.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 30, 2011 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Right. 21.07, which is, as was noted above, both insane and ridic.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 30, 2011 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

in two years

he went from being a no-name catcher, to a Major League record holder.

Way to go Kenley.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 30, 2011 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pedro Baez, take note.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 30, 2011 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

what are the odds

Donnie keeps Kenley in as the 7th/8th inning fireman and leaves Javy in to collect easy-ish saves in the 9th? Or does he just get unimaginative and pencils Kenley in for the 9th no matter what?

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Sep 30, 2011 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

This gets brought up a lot, but the 9th inning is so inherently high leverage that it’s almost always gonna be the most important inning.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Sep 30, 2011 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you had a system like “Kenley pitches 1 or 2 run saves, Guerra pitches 3 run saves” it might work, but as long as you have a defined closer, he’s always going to be seeing the highest leverage innings.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Sep 30, 2011 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think they like Kenley where he is

I think he may be more valuable in his current role rather than as closer. Javy’s handled the closer role well. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it!

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 30, 2011 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree, I think it works so just keep going with it into next season. I am loving our potential bullpen with Guerra, Jansen, Lindblom, Elbert, and Tolleson at its core.

by OB12 on Sep 30, 2011 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not that Guerra is a long time vet,

but I see this as more of a “waiting in the wings” type of thing

by Greg Stephen on Sep 30, 2011 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tigers Lineup

Jackson 8, Ordonez 9, Young 7, Cabrera 3, Martinez DH, Avila 2, Raburn 4, Peralta 6, Inge 5

Verlander 1

by Alex41592 on Sep 30, 2011 12:47 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

After the zombie apocalypse, there will only be roaches and Brandon Inge left.

by kinbote on Sep 30, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Quite a feat for a guy who was released by his team to starting in the first playoff game.

I guess Leland was unimpressed with Boom Booms career numbers against CC

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I always thought Inge was washed up like 4 years ago. Looked at his career numbers; he’s never been that good. Hit 27 hr twice but always with low .BA/.OBP.

In other words, 2012 Dodger starting 3B.

by kinbote on Sep 30, 2011 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Terrific defense at 3rd, basically the white Uribe

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

What did you call me?

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 30, 2011 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not emo enough

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Sep 30, 2011 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

and simultaneously too hipster with that chin hair.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 30, 2011 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

This might be closer

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 30, 2011 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Even then he hated catching.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

This will serve as the de facto game thread for Rays/Rangers. I’ll probably have another thread up later for Yankees/Tigers.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2011 12:49 PM PDT reply actions  

Querey

Four options for following the Rangers/Rays tilt.

  1. TBS
  2. ESPN Radio
  3. local radio through MLB.com app
  4. Gameday

If all four are available to you, which do you choose?

by Josie Becker on Sep 30, 2011 12:50 PM PDT reply actions  

If I'm at home

TBS HD.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 30, 2011 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

If I’m at work, Gameday or TBLA comment thread.
If I’m in the car, ESPN radio.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 30, 2011 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

i'd choose TBS

Because that would mean i was watching on TV.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 30, 2011 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Always TV if it’s an option

by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2011 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

1.

Unless it’s a Brewers game. 1 and 3. Sync it up. Uecker.

by Alex41592 on Sep 30, 2011 12:56 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

huh, I had gotten the impression that folk were none too fond of the TBS announcing crew.

by Josie Becker on Sep 30, 2011 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

There is a mute button on my TV. Moving pictures for the win.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 30, 2011 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

fair enough. I think I’m gonna go ESPN Radio, 2pm is too early on a weekday to be tied to a television box

by Josie Becker on Sep 30, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Radio is great, esp if you are doing something else at the same time, such as enjoying the fall sunshine and sipping a mint julep or something.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 30, 2011 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

IIRC Tampa’s was dreadful. Not sure I’ve heard Texas’. The ESPN crew would probably be your best bet.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 30, 2011 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

i kinda tune it out

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 30, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

other

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 30, 2011 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Eric, I really enjoyed your various reviews this season

and appreciate the work that goes into them. Weekly, monthly, year in thirds, you are on top of it all.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 30, 2011 12:51 PM PDT reply actions  

+1

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 30, 2011 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Most definitely

and thanks to the work of everyone who has contributed as a writer here, especially Mike with his Top 5 post ;)

Seriously, great job to all of you guys.

by Ivdown on Sep 30, 2011 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks

But the worst part of this comment is that I forgot about the year in thirds. So that will come next week (or this weekend) :)

by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

You will be accused of selective fractioning no doubt.

by kinbote on Sep 30, 2011 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Phillies NLDS roster

Position players: Francisco, Gload, Howard, Ibanez, Martinez, Mayberry, Pence, Polanco, Rollins, Ruiz, Schneider, Utley, Valdez, Victorino

Pitchers: Bastardo, Blanton, Halladay, Hamels, Kendrick, Lee, Lidge, Madson, Oswalt, Stutes, Worley

by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2011 12:53 PM PDT reply actions  

We sorta point to

Aaron Miles almost qualifying for the batting title as one the sign that the season went terribly wrong. Yet there’s Wilson Valdez of the Phillies, getting 300 PA and hitting a whopping .249 / .294 / .341 / .634, 73 OPS+. Of course he also earned 0.1 WAR by pitching a scoreless inning for a win.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 30, 2011 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

You rock Josie
Last stab at Phil’s new catchphrase
.
"There’s something about an underdog that inspires the unexceptional"
.
Follow @rocknjosie
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LAG Confidential / SBNLA / LA History / Pop Bunker
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by Josie Becker on Sep 30, 2011 11:55 AM PDT reply actions

That is my mindset in a nutshell.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 1:02 PM PDT reply actions  

I approve

I think this is how my mom thinks about this one sometimes ;-)

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Sep 30, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Of the Thursday NBComedies, I only watched The Office last night, but damn that was funny. I was cracking up at just how productive everyone was after Andy’s meeting. That was well done.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2011 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

it was crazy to think that’s the level offices are expected to run at, but never do cause people have souls and whatnot : )

by Josie Becker on Sep 30, 2011 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

says the gal who has never worked in a sales office:)

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

that’s true, never worked in sales. Two government offices, but yeah that’s not even close

by Josie Becker on Sep 30, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sales are like baseball where no matter what you try nothing works, then one day each client looks as big as a beachball.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I remember the office in Wall Street, they were at a high level of chatter/productivity

by Josie Becker on Sep 30, 2011 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because they were on cocaine.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 30, 2011 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think that was the expected level of production

by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I still have no clue how Jerry Sands did not garner

one vote for Rookie of the Month

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 1:03 PM PDT reply actions  

those same folks did not want to vote for 2 dodger outfielders in the same month?

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 30, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Guerra and Jansen got votes.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was just dicking around Philly

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 30, 2011 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

No .500 team has ever had two blah blah blah

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 30, 2011 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m sure playing time went into it (83 PA vs 119 for Dee, for instance), but yeah, perplexing.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Right, not saying Sands should have won, but when you saw all the other rookies who got a vote, Sands smashed them statistically.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe they watched Moneyball and decided they didn’t want to vote for a BABIP fueled month :)

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Sep 30, 2011 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

that’s the ticket

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dee Gordon Sept BABIP = .404

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 30, 2011 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

ended up .354 on the year

seems reasonable for a burner. Especially one who is 7 for 18 on bunt attempts for a hit!

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 30, 2011 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m not saying it’s unreasonable, just that his winning month was just about as BABIP-fueled as Jerry Sands’ zero-vote-getting month.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 30, 2011 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know

but I still wanted to point out that both jerry and dee’s overall season numbers do not appear to be babip driven.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 30, 2011 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

and overall they are average

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

better then replacment level!

I think they both ended up with .8 war according to fangraphs in around 1/3is of a season

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by nolander on Sep 30, 2011 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

he was due!

before sept his babip was .254!

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 30, 2011 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

This will never get old
Kenley Jansen also must be mentioned, as he was third on the team with 32 strikeouts. He pitched 13 2/3 innings.

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 1:03 PM PDT reply actions  

I will die before that gets old

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 30, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Great call on game of the month

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 1:05 PM PDT reply actions  

yes, best time I had at the stadium since that ball bounced off Holiday’s nuts

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 30, 2011 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

You should have come up and said hi, then you’d have been very very nervous.

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

you guys

would have thrown him to the wolves wouldn’t you?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 30, 2011 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Jackels would have devoured his puppiness

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

yes, would have been awesome

he would have been overmatched

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 30, 2011 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

you will be...

you will be…

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 30, 2011 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was only scared because I was married

single HJ would have called some bluffs and seen who was really ready to party

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 30, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

tweet from Andy Richter today
@Andy_Richter The worst part about hooking up w/ a cougar is when she sprays urine all over your apartment.

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by underdog on Sep 30, 2011 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

That

Was a memorable game for so many reasons

by bhsportsguy on Sep 30, 2011 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

the victims counseling that followed wasn’t as fun, but hey you play you pay

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 30, 2011 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Most perplexing stat of the month - Juan Rivera .695 OPS - 22 Runs Batted In

Doubt you see that very often

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 1:06 PM PDT reply actions  

Juanny on the spot

Would be interesting to see his hit ratio to RISP for the month

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 30, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Juan Rivera in September

RISP: 11 for 28, 3 doubles, 1 home run, 4 walks
0 on: 11 for 57, 0 doubles, 1 home run, 6 walks

by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2011 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

That last line isn’t nobody on base; rather, it includes when runners were on first base, too.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2011 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

That looks sustainable:)

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Amazing what happens sometimes after a player gets DFA’d.

by jrock247 on Sep 30, 2011 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Damn, that might crack a 2.5 Million deal. Can we do a Loney lookup and see how many times he came up with runners on base compared to his peers?

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Loney had 381 runners on base when he batted, 24th in the National League.

Kemp had 471, second to Prince at 473.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks, but I meant for Rivera, we used to use the logic that Loney had more RBI chances then anyone which was why he had so many RBI’s for such a pedestrian hitter.

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rivera for the season came up with 366 runners on base, 72nd in MLB.

With the Dodgers he came up with 176 runners on base. He was with the Dodgers for the final 69 games of the season, so prorate that over a full 162 games, and Rivera is at 413 runners, which would have been 12th in the NL this year.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2011 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

So, those RBI numbers seem impressive

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

As a Dodger, Rivera came up with a runner on third base with less than two outs 22 times. The runner scored 18 times.

*As B-R notes, it may or may not be RBI. So, something like a run-scoring double play with 0 outs would count.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2011 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d take him as our #6 hitter next year.

by kinbote on Sep 30, 2011 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well

Ethier and Carroll did get on base.

by bhsportsguy on Sep 30, 2011 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

by the way – Timmy Wallach thinks this is AWESOME

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 30, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wallach just likes meeting friends at or around 3B

by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

“How’ve you been, Hubie?”

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 30, 2011 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

he doesn’t like long meeting as he sends them on their way rather quickly

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

The McCourt/Judge Gross news today is actually kinda huge.

Takes away McCourt’s hoped-for ace in the hole. Legal equivalent of this for him…

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by underdog on Sep 30, 2011 1:06 PM PDT reply actions  

Late to party does this new date, replace the Oct 12th date?

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah. We can enjoy the playoffs before the courtroom comes calling

by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2011 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yah. This feels like a re-set, and then all of it taken care of in one fell swoop? All I know is:
Bankruptcy court sets key #Dodgers hearing Oct. 31, Nov. 1, 2, 4. "The Court expects the Commissioner and Mr. McCourt to testify in person."
If court schedule holds, we could have answer in early November about whether McCourt can hold onto #Dodgers or MLB can kick him out.

Of course with appeals process and blah blah, it would still be rather awhile before there would be, say, new ownership process, alas. Still, this is progress.

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by underdog on Sep 30, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

So by Nov 4th, McCourt will be allowed to re-auction the TV deal, makes deal with Time Warner comes out of bankruptcy on Dec 19th and is quickly taken over by MLB followed by Fox’s lawsuit. Fun days a head.

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I

May just be a cynical person but I never trust a Court ruling that appears to be one-sided.

by bhsportsguy on Sep 30, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

experience makes cynics of us all

I prefer to call it “wisdom”

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 30, 2011 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am jealous

eat fish and chips with mushy peas – I love me them mushy peas

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 30, 2011 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh

Had those too at Trishna

by bhsportsguy on Sep 30, 2011 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

NICE

I am going to some place called “Palate Food + Wine” tonight with clients

Seems like a terrible name, but they are staying in Pasadena and this place is in Glendale with solid reviews

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 30, 2011 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

It

Is very good, you will enjoy it

by bhsportsguy on Sep 30, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don't

Think they will have the game on though

by bhsportsguy on Sep 30, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah – Me + Mrs HJ + a very nice woman client = can’t be in a place with the game on

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 30, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

What is a cynic? A man who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing.

Wilde

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 30, 2011 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Elbert?

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love this one
“The stock market is filled with individuals who know the price of everything, but the value of nothing.” – Phil Fisher

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 30, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Easy rec.


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by David Young on Sep 30, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

The cynics are right nine times out of ten.
A cynic is a man who, when he smells flowers, looks around for a coffin.
-Mencken


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by David Young on Sep 30, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it.
- G. B. Shaw


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by David Young on Sep 30, 2011 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Really?

you might be the least cynical person I know

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 30, 2011 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I will heed bhsportsguy’s word of caution above regarding the ruling.


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by David Young on Sep 30, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Was leaving the house

but I saw ESPN teased the Barajas/Gordon clip just now.

by kinbote on Sep 30, 2011 1:17 PM PDT reply actions  

Did they mention how Kemp was not a viable MVP candidate because the clubhouse was to loose and thus played under no stress?

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or that he had to overcome more since his leadoff man was a freakin’ baby?

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 30, 2011 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

and his catcher was a mother

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I should say Big Momma

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think Rod

has a new nickname

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 30, 2011 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

anyone seen catching hell yet?

the best part was when Rod Blagojevich said this regarding Bartman:

“If someone ever convicts (Bartman) of a crime, he’s not getting a pardon from this Governor”

by shaqfor3 on Sep 30, 2011 1:27 PM PDT reply actions  

Good news for Barty, then.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 30, 2011 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I caught 5 minutes and it was so interesting I recorded the full one for later. Looks to be very well done. The bit on the history of scapegoating was great. (We don’t need the image again, thanks.)

by kinbote on Sep 30, 2011 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was incredibly well done

They interviewed maybe 5-7 key people who were at the games or involved with the games in some way for games 6 and 7. The takes on them were very interesting.

by Ivdown on Sep 30, 2011 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

at least when Boston made an unfair scapegoat they made it a player

the Chicago fans don’t go after the millionaire that boots the double play ball, but instead the geeky kid wearing headphones

people are dorks

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 30, 2011 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

They had Buckner on the show too

I feel so bad for what happened to him, even now you can tell it hurt him so emotionally how Boston treated him.

As for Bartman, he seemed like a really strong person for essentially not reacting the way he did. Very impressive.

by Ivdown on Sep 30, 2011 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Whereas Calvin Schiraldi (sp) is off the hook

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 30, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

As is Bob Stanley, and Alex Gonzalez

by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2011 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I blame Rich Gedman for calling the pitch.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 30, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Come on, easy peasy play, big moment, he muffed it, he has to deal with it just as Durham has to deal with it.

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

No question Buckner should get grief

But Bob Stanley threw the wild pitch that allowed the tying run to score with 2 outs. Nobody cares

by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2011 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Alex Gonzalez the glove

Oops

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

You don’t hear about Grady Little too much anymore. If Manuel does that with Halladay, everyone’s singing praises . . .

by kinbote on Sep 30, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

For the record, I was pro-Grady in 2003. I would have left Pedro in.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2011 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Me to, unlike Humma, you look at Pedro, you look at the pen, you look again at the best pitcher in baseball, you look at the pen, you walk away. JMO

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

And then you take your lumps and get fired. Pedro was done, done, done. Everybody knew it.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Sep 30, 2011 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought the Posada double was a lucky bloop.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2011 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Eh, just saying, there’s a reason that moment is famous. You can call it second guessing if you like. But the Red Sox fans were thinking, Holy Shit, thanks, Pedro, you did awesome, now they gotta hold it for you and get this done, and Grady walked out, and they said, Good, let’s get it done, and then Grady walked away, and everybody said, WHAT??? NO!!! And then Matsui.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Sep 30, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thought it was Giambi

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

With one out…

Jeter doubles. Williams singles. Grady goes out, Pedro stays in. Matsui ground rule double. Posada doubles, scoring two. Grady pulls Pedro.

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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Sep 30, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Heck, if the does pull him then Matsui and Posada go back to back. What’s the beef? Those were prime guys in their prime.

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

beef, prime?

Grady roasted.


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by David Young on Sep 30, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Timlin and Embree got out of the inning after that with no more runs scoring.

Look, I am the number one guy for leaving a pitcher in. I think managers have a quick hook so often or make a replacement too early even for a good reason like a platoon advantage… I think the number one rule for pitching changes should be “Do not replace an effective pitcher with an ineffective pitcher.”

Pedro had done a great job, but great as he was, he had tired to the point that he was no longer Pedro. He was no longer an effective pitcher.

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Sep 30, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Timlin and Embree did not have to face Matsui or Posada. Just saying.

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

and thus it lives and loves and dies again

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 30, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I enjoyed that doc. Lots of great footage of that night. Some crazy eyes in the stands that night, looking for blood, literally.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2011 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Things I did not know

Nova was picked by the Padres in the rule Five draft but was returned to the Yankees

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 1:32 PM PDT reply actions  

Padres returned Victorino. Obvious lesson learned: claim on waiver the Rule 5 guy San Diego returns.


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by David Young on Sep 30, 2011 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

We might have to study this.

or don’t let Depo get involved in Rule 5 scenarios

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

LA Dodger All Time leaders in BABIP, 2000 PA minimum
Rk 	Player 	 	BAbip 	PA 	
1 	Matt Kemp 	.352 	3158 	
2 	Mike Piazza 	.341 	3017
3 	Brett Butler 	.332 	3342
4 	Pedro Guerrero 	.330 	4089
5 	Manny Mota 	.330 	2187
6 	Andre Ethier 	.323 	3363
7 	M Grudzielanek 	.316 	2568
8 	Tommy Davis 	.315 	3216
9 	Rafael Furcal 	.314 	2802
10 	Raul Mondesi 	.313 	3765
11 	W. Crawford 	.312 	3198
12 	James Loney 	.311 	3018
13 	Steve Garvey 	.311 	7027
14 	Reggie Smith 	.311 	2055
15 	Mike Marshall 	.309 	3546


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by David Young on Sep 30, 2011 1:33 PM PDT reply actions  

3 of the top 4 hit some of the hardest line drives I have ever seen at DS

Butler makes sense

the Grudzilanek is the only surprise

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 30, 2011 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Was thinking the same thing on Kemp/Piazza/Pedro. It’s hard to field a ball when it’s hit like a missile.

by kinbote on Sep 30, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was surprised Willie Crawford made the list, but he did get helped late in his Dodger career by seeing a lot less LHP.


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by David Young on Sep 30, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Love this list.

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

No penguin!

I assume Sheff didn’t get the Abs

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 30, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sheff had enough – .296. His career BABIP is only .285. It’s .293 from San Diego to the Yankees though, throwing out his early years in Milwaukee (ages 19-22) and his last three years.


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by David Young on Sep 30, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

hmph

dude was scary with a bat

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 30, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

High HR totals part of it?


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by David Young on Sep 30, 2011 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

The bottom 10
Rk 	Player 	 	BAbip 	PA 	
36 	Ron Fairly 	.275 	4529
37 	Ron Cey 	.273 	6108
38 	Alex Cora 	.271 	2203
39 	Ken Landreaux 	.271 	2980
40 	John Roseboro 	.271 	4503
41 	Jim Lefebvre 	.270 	3417
42 	Jim Gilliam 	.269 	4893
43 	Mike Scioscia 	.263 	5056
44 	Joe Ferguson 	.262 	2525
45 	Steve Yeager 	.257 	3869


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by David Young on Sep 30, 2011 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is like

a PVL HOF

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Sep 30, 2011 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ron Cey and a bunch of catchers and middle infielders

Ron Cey?

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 30, 2011 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hit dingers, walked a lot, wasn’t beating out ground balls.


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by David Young on Sep 30, 2011 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

was definitely not beating out ground balls

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Only 45 LA Dodgers reached 2000 PA? Seems low.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 30, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Indeed

Willie Davis leads with 8035. Who’s second with 8020, nearly 1000 more than #3?


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by David Young on Sep 30, 2011 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

he’s #3.


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by David Young on Sep 30, 2011 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wills?

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Sep 30, 2011 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

4th


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by David Young on Sep 30, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

White Bill Russell

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 30, 2011 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Natch. He was here a loooong time.


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by David Young on Sep 30, 2011 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

The answer always seems

to be Bill Russell. Which is depressing

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Sep 30, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

The most boring manager of all time. Basically the template for Toby from the American The Office.

by kinbote on Sep 30, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Donny is a tad bit boring isn’t he?

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

38 Alex Cora .271 2203

That’s only ’cause 18-pitch plate appearances that end in home runs do not count as balls in play.

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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Sep 30, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Interesting overlap between the bottom-10 of BABIP and the all-time LAD BB leaders, same min.
Rk 	Player 	 	BB 	PA
1 	Ron Cey 	765 	6108
2 	Jim Gilliam 	631 	4893
3 	Davey Lopes 	603 	5308
4 	Mike Scioscia 	567 	5056
5 	Wes Parker 	532 	4835
6 	Ron Fairly 	522 	4529
7 	Eric Karros 	517 	6624
8 	Bill Russell 	483 	8020
9 	Maury Wills 	456 	6744
10 	John Roseboro 	434 	4503


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by David Young on Sep 30, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

This

gives away the answer to your quiz

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Sep 30, 2011 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was time, so I served it.


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by David Young on Sep 30, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you want to score points with your SO tonight

go home and show them this video. She will be crying by the time it is over. Then she will turn to you and punch you in the arm and ask you why you can’t be romantic like that.
http://today.ucla.edu/portal/ut/alumni-marriage-proposal-creates-216406.aspx

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 1:35 PM PDT reply actions  

I’m plenty romantic, but I like to keep my romance personal, not put on a show for a bunch of strangers(blah blah blah thye where probably all their friends or something).

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Sep 30, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

1) Flash mob
2) UCLA

Done reading

by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good god
Saturday, the couple walked through Ackerman Union, and the company that Tran hired to organize the dance, Flash Mob America, helped sneak a microphone onto him in the men’s bathroom before the couple headed outside where the surprise was waiting.


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by David Young on Sep 30, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

“Hey Greg, I have an idea for a startup company. We’ll organize, wait for it, flash mobs.”

by Josie Becker on Sep 30, 2011 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

That company knew they were about to become famous.

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

it’s the effort and focus guys, not what he ended up doing

Flash mob doesn’t float your boat – do something else

the romance is not the action but the months of planning and thinking about what she would enjoy

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 30, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yea

you have to be impressed with how he put it all together. Having her family sprinkled in among the group was a perfect touch. Plus the song selection was right on.

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

My wife would murder me in cold blood

If I ever did anything that would put her in a spotlight like that. She likes BH’s seats at DS because its too dark there to be on Kiss Cam randomly. But doing something well thought out that is focused on the other is a winner.

It works both ways, my wife planning a secret vacation to New Orleans + cruise was amazing. I’m still stunned she pulled it off.


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by David Young on Sep 30, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Have to know your audience.

Maybe someday you will all be asked to be part of a flash mob for or 25th singing take me out to the ballgame followed up with ……………

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

True story

I did not propose to Bride. We just got married.

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by Humma Kavula on Sep 30, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bride walked up to Humma and said, “Do I?” He replied, “Yup.”

by kinbote on Sep 30, 2011 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Snogging at the stadium are we?

by kinbote on Sep 30, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

fair enough, you get a pass

and I love me some mushy peas

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 30, 2011 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

If Josie wasn’t limeying it, then it wouldn’t be Josie.

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just larking about. I also love breaking out into a West Texas accent, and a real bahd Boston accent

by Josie Becker on Sep 30, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Love yourself Josie and inner peace will follow

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

but you will be boring as all git out

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

do I look like a communist?

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by nolander on Sep 30, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

never. i do make surfer s’s sometimes tho ;)

by kinbote on Sep 30, 2011 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nope, but I have been known to occasionally strike through a Z, but not always.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2011 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

intermittently. I used to, but when I started writing numbers all the time, I kind of stopped.

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by Nolij on Sep 30, 2011 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

if I am writing a long number and it also has ones in it then always

other wise intermittently

Daddy was a sign painter, I can write me some pretty add numbers

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 30, 2011 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

what Nolij said, though my penmanship is at a childs level so i try to never ever use it other then for writing checks.

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I slash my zeroes in some contexts, but never 7s. You only have to slash 7s if you have exaggeratedly pointy 1s, which is rare west of the Atlantic Ocean.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 30, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

and always say “zero” not “oh.” That’s just good form.

by kinbote on Sep 30, 2011 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

aught/naught

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 30, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Vin says “and” in the middle of numbers, especially years, “nineteen hundred AND sixty-five”. I always notice because I was taught not to do that, and only to use “and” between a whole number and a fraction, like “three and three-quarters” or “two dollars and ninety-five cents”.


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by David Young on Sep 30, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

always

not coincidentally, I only started doing this after my time in Europe. The first chapter of my life was slash-less.

Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.

by Pure Azure on Sep 30, 2011 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes.

Started doing so a few years ago. Just sorta happened, wasn’t really aware I was doing it. And I didn’t have a need to, as one can easily differentiate between my "1"s and "7"s.

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by Julio Pena on Sep 30, 2011 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Does Matt Moore last four innnings?

I’m thinking adrenaline and stuff get him through three, then trouble in fourth, knockout in fifth.

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 1:55 PM PDT reply actions  

I’m just catching up but I can’t believe he made it 7 shutout innings.

by jrock247 on Sep 30, 2011 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Unbelievable

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just a thought

On a scale of 1-10, how shocking would a three-year Loney contract this offseason rank? Would be Billingsley-like in timing.

by kinbote on Sep 30, 2011 1:56 PM PDT reply actions  

3.7 if signs for something like 3/24
9.9 if he signs for something like 4/44

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought of it because I was looking at that chart with his total PAs as a Dodger and thinking how strange it would be if ended up a lifetime Dodger. He’s already climbing up the career games list . . .

by kinbote on Sep 30, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

How shocking?

My monocle would pop right off my face.

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by Humma Kavula on Sep 30, 2011 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Are you the Monopoly man?

by kinbote on Sep 30, 2011 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

His monocle would drop

into my flute and ruin my Dom

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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Sep 30, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

10

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by nolander on Sep 30, 2011 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

If we’re going to be talking contract, avoiding arb, what’s the harm in floating some numbers? Seems like each side could be made happy with a deal.

by kinbote on Sep 30, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because eight weeks ago, Loney was a for-sure, book-it, lock-it-up non-tender.

Eight weeks have changed that, to the point that maybe the Dodgers are thinking about bringing him back for 2012. I don’t support that, but I could be convinced. I cannot support letting eight weeks determine the Dodgers’ fate for the next three years.

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by Humma Kavula on Sep 30, 2011 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

if its 3 for 15

fine, but what humma said

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by nolander on Sep 30, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

From the AP Style guide
Postseason vs. playoffs
The terms aren’t interchangeable. Postseason encompasses all the games after the regular season ends _ the first round of the league playoffs, the AL and NL championship series and the World Series. It takes 11 wins for a team to go through the postseason and become champions. Playoffs refers only to the first two rounds that determine the World Series opponents.

by Josie Becker on Sep 30, 2011 1:58 PM PDT reply actions  

These are been a tremendous help to us all

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

So the World Series isn’t the playoffs?

by kinbote on Sep 30, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

makes sense to me

Playoffs get you to the event, but are not the event

works for branded events like World Series and Superbowl

Not as good for NBA

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 30, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

they brand the NBA Finals pretty hard. It’s uninspired, but it’s something

by Josie Becker on Sep 30, 2011 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

But market the finals but struggle to build a brand because they don’t have a name

need a name

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 30, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

3 Weeks in the Lane?

by kinbote on Sep 30, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did not know this
The NBA Finals is the championship series of the National Basketball Association (NBA). The series was named the NBA World Championship Series until 1986.

by Josie Becker on Sep 30, 2011 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hoopageddon

they should call it Hoopageddon

I would never miss Hoopageddon

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 30, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

My gosh, even I would watch Hoopageddon.

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by Humma Kavula on Sep 30, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d watch Hoopageddon

HJ better trademark the name before I do.

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

www.Hoopageddon.com

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Server not found. Get on GoDaddy wit’ a quickness.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 30, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

run with it baby, just throw some crumbs my direction when you make bazillions

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 30, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm anti all things

aggedon, palooza, and gate

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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Sep 30, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Stanley Cup finals could be called Ragnapuck

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 30, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Just realizing Toronto Raptors is a really stupid nickname.

by kinbote on Sep 30, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

“Hey fellow administrative team members of the unnamed Toronto basketball club. Did anyone see Jurassic Park this weekend?”

“That’s it!”

by Josie Becker on Sep 30, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

wrong

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by nolander on Sep 30, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Raptors are far more badass than most mascots.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 30, 2011 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Utah Jazz is a really stupid nickname.

Also, frankly, Los Angeles Lakers is a really stupid nickname.

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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Sep 30, 2011 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

New Orleans and Utah could switch nicknames and I wouldn’t mind.

I’d be pissed if Minnesota and LA switched nicknames

by Josie Becker on Sep 30, 2011 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

BASEketball quote time!
The Lakers moved to Los Angeles where there are no lakes
The Oilers moved to Edmonton where there is no oil
The Jazz moved to Salt Lake City where they don’t allow music.
The Oakland Raiders moved to LA and then back to Oakland, no one in Los Angeles seemed to notice.

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by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 30, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

At least there is a Lake Los Angeles. Kind of. There is nothing jazzy about Utah.


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by David Young on Sep 30, 2011 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, Kenny G is kinda Utah.

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by Humma Kavula on Sep 30, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Case closed.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 30, 2011 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

OO

thanks for reminding me I wanted to write an article about the history of the LA river!

by Josie Becker on Sep 30, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

The only reason to write

about the LA River is to write about why it’s encased in concrete. Write about the great 1938 flood

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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Sep 30, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just wanted to dig a bit, write about the flooding, write about the different offshoots, what they lend their names to

by Josie Becker on Sep 30, 2011 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Might want to check in with Friends of the LA River, they are the powerhouse behind turning our concrete encased flood channel into a breathtaking, natural waterway that would make the San Antonio River blush.

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

But the San Antonio River runs right through the heart of downtown Los Angeles. /jimhealy

by kinbote on Sep 30, 2011 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

The LA river

will never be like the San Antonio river

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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Sep 30, 2011 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

You are right it won’t get drained once a year to clean it out.

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also correct, it won’t have the peak of the Downtown San Antonio river but it will make up for it with a long career.

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also FYI – you can now Kayak on parts of the LA River

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just remember that Phil lives near the headwaters.


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by David Young on Sep 30, 2011 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

When I piss, I create the headwaters

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

And Balboa. And Rikki/Veronica/Carnell

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 30, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Silverlake is not just a name!

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 30, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

but not an echo to be had

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Sep 30, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

God I loved Carnell at UCLA and then the Steelers

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 30, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would root for the

Toronto Poutine

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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Sep 30, 2011 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Toronto Timbits

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 30, 2011 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s Montreal, isn’t it?

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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Sep 30, 2011 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

But nobody can understand what they’re saying, so we’re hanging up

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by Humma Kavula on Sep 30, 2011 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Have them call back

when I’m not here

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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Sep 30, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I Poutine

knows no Canadian bounds

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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Sep 30, 2011 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Total nonsense and completely untrue. There is no such thing as Toronto poutine. The idea is ridiculous and repugnant. Poutine is from Quebec, including Montreal.

by berkowit28 on Sep 30, 2011 7:28 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

you play-off to get to the world series

then you post the season

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by nolander on Sep 30, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

semantically

MLB, after the regular season (or postseason) has playoffs to determine the participants in the World Series. NFL, NHL, NBA, MLS are all the same way

by Josie Becker on Sep 30, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, you know what they say about Knowing . . .

by kinbote on Sep 30, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

English is much more fun on TBLA then in school. Heck Miss Becker, you might have the makings of a professor after all. Provided you don’t have to work for Big Brother.

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Does MLS have playoffs and a championship of sorts?

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 30, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Let’s not start an overtime/extra time subthread.

by kinbote on Sep 30, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

yes, 8 team playoff to determine who plays in the MLS Cup.

by Josie Becker on Sep 30, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

My cup’s never at a neutral site, hiyo!

by kinbote on Sep 30, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

HARDBANK would never charge $5 to use your debit card, that’s for sure.

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by Humma Kavula on Sep 30, 2011 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

this is full of rec

MLS Clubs compete in up to three competitions each year. The MLS Cup, the US Open Cup, and the CONCACAF Champions League

by Josie Becker on Sep 30, 2011 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is this the game thread?

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by Humma Kavula on Sep 30, 2011 2:08 PM PDT reply actions  

yes

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 30, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

123 for CJ

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by Humma Kavula on Sep 30, 2011 2:12 PM PDT reply actions  

The graphic representation of the Ballpark at Arlington

shows an ad on top of the scoreboard, in Coca-Cola script, for “Kola Kola.”

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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Sep 30, 2011 2:22 PM PDT reply actions  

That’s in Gameday.

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by Humma Kavula on Sep 30, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

it’s in Gameday because it’s in MLB: The Show, right?

by Josie Becker on Sep 30, 2011 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

You can’t beat the real thing.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 30, 2011 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

CJ Wilson hits the baseball equivalent of tongue at a deli.

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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Sep 30, 2011 2:27 PM PDT reply actions  

(He went to Fremont High, where my dad spent his entire career.)

by kinbote on Sep 30, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

your dad never graduated?

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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Sep 30, 2011 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

What's funny is

MY dad never graduated high school

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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Sep 30, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not sure if my grandfather did. Some folks were working instead.

by kinbote on Sep 30, 2011 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

My dad dropped out in the 8th grade

I am come from scrappy stock

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 30, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mine dropped out at 17

to join the Marines (and get away from his family)

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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Sep 30, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

guffaw

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Used to love the USC running backs.
Charles White
Rickey Bell
Marcus Allen
Anthony Davis
Mike Garrett

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

OJ Simpson

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by nolander on Sep 30, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

before my time

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Umm

so was Garrett

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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Sep 30, 2011 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah but he was the main dude on the KC Chiefs that whupped the Vikings so he makes it on that basis.

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Grew up rooting for those guys. I’ll never forget 1978/1979 (very beginning of my sports fandom) with Charles White and Alabama. When Marcus Allen finally broke through, it was unreal. So great to watch.

by kinbote on Sep 30, 2011 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Damon takes Wilson deep!

only allowed 2 HRs to lefties during the season

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by underdog on Sep 30, 2011 2:31 PM PDT reply actions  

Getting that next contract set up.

JD3K.

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by regfairfield on Sep 30, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am writing a long and very polite, yet not giving an inch, GFY email that will likely end up in court

it is both fun and depressing

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 30, 2011 2:32 PM PDT reply actions  

Was it something I said?

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Sep 30, 2011 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

BTW

Nice book recommendation. We can discuss the ending next time we meet up.

by bhsportsguy on Sep 30, 2011 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Zen and the Art of Go Fuck Yourself

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by Humma Kavula on Sep 30, 2011 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I

Had problems with the book, hence the part about talking about later.

by bhsportsguy on Sep 30, 2011 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

suck it rangers

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by nolander on Sep 30, 2011 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

It is not like

They stole the division from the Angels.

by bhsportsguy on Sep 30, 2011 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I need special reasons

to root against a team from the division one of my favorite teams is from?

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by nolander on Sep 30, 2011 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tony Reagins officially out as Angels GM.

On the one hand he traded two guys in this game right now for 100 million dollars on dead weight.

But at least he got Dan Haren for Joe Saunders.

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by regfairfield on Sep 30, 2011 2:46 PM PDT reply actions  

Opening for Ned

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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Sep 30, 2011 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

If Scoiscia is as powerful

as all indications, this might be more or less meaningless. Nothing the new guy can do for a year or two either way since they are now stocked up on overexpensive outfield dead weight that will prevent them from spending money in free agency.

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by nolander on Sep 30, 2011 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

They should just name Scioscia manager/GM.

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by Humma Kavula on Sep 30, 2011 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

/shudder

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by nolander on Sep 30, 2011 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow 102 million already tied up with arbitration coming to Kendrick, Aybar, Morales and Mathis.

At least the Hunter deal has been better than anyone thought it would be.

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by regfairfield on Sep 30, 2011 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah

they are almost out from under it too, but its still 18 million commited to him next year. Abreau for 12 million next year…

Basically pray that trout destroys the world next year and Kendrys gets healthy.

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by nolander on Sep 30, 2011 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

If Mike is as powerful as all indications are then he would be taking more blame for Napoli on the Rangers and Wells on his team.

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

could be

mike gets blamed for wanting to be rid of napoli, but reagins gets the blame for the shitty return. It’ll still be another year chock full of mathis while conger tries ot figure out how to get traded to the rangers.

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by nolander on Sep 30, 2011 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I

Thought there was a story planted this week that mike liked Napoli’s defense.

by bhsportsguy on Sep 30, 2011 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

tell that to Napoli

Napoli was GLAD to be traded because he was sick of dealing with Scioscia

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by nolander on Sep 30, 2011 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did our finish save Ned’s job?

by kinbote on Sep 30, 2011 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I contend that Ned’s job wasn’t on the line.

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by Humma Kavula on Sep 30, 2011 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree, I think Ned is safe until a new owner shows up.. and there is always the chance he remains after that

by NotJoeTorre on Sep 30, 2011 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I contend that if the team finished the season as they played it from April – June his ass was on the line

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

maybe

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by nolander on Sep 30, 2011 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

the sports commentariat

always have nothing but nice things to say about Ned.. seems like the only people who dont approve of his tenior are people who pay the most attention, ie: us

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Sep 30, 2011 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

He signed winners and Frank McCourt never once gave him any money. What can you do?

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by regfairfield on Sep 30, 2011 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just

Saw that. Looks like Arte picked Mike for now to bring them back to playoffs.

by bhsportsguy on Sep 30, 2011 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Matt Moore is from Moriarty, New Mexico. I had no idea. Same place as the Padres’ Kyle Blanks.

It is probably a bad sign that I know who Kyle Blanks is.

by fbihop on Sep 30, 2011 2:49 PM PDT reply actions  

It's a bad sign

you know where Moriarty New Mexico is.

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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Sep 30, 2011 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Its a bad thing that I’ve ever stepped foot in that craphole of a town.

by fbihop on Sep 30, 2011 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

got my postseason picks in 20 mins before game time

saw that others submitted them past the posted deadline, so I did as well.

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by Pure Azure on Sep 30, 2011 2:56 PM PDT reply actions  

No problem, like others I thought we had an 11:00 game

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

CJ blowing it?

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quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur

by Humma Kavula on Sep 30, 2011 2:57 PM PDT reply actions  

I think that's BJ

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by Pure Azure on Sep 30, 2011 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

6-0 Rays!!

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by Pure Azure on Sep 30, 2011 3:00 PM PDT reply actions  

maybe I shoulda picked Rays in 3 instead of 4 :)

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by Pure Azure on Sep 30, 2011 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wilson

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by Humma Kavula on Sep 30, 2011 3:00 PM PDT reply actions  

one of the few Tom Hanks films I've liked

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by Pure Azure on Sep 30, 2011 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Helen Hunt was the problem with that movie

I’m surprised Hanks didn’t go to that island on purpose

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by mleadman on Sep 30, 2011 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought she was kinda pretty

but Wilson does have more curves

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by Pure Azure on Sep 30, 2011 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

it was a nice scene

the kiss in the rain

damn Marty

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 30, 2011 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've never understood Helen Hunt

Annoyed me in everything I’ve seen her in

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by mleadman on Sep 30, 2011 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I want to see Marty’s reaction to movie starring Helen Hunt with a soundtrack that is all Eagles.


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by David Young on Sep 30, 2011 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Marty would call it “As Bad As It Gets”

by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2011 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

ha ha

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Humma was spared Paul Newman in The Carlos Ruiz Story.

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by Nolij on Sep 30, 2011 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Marty Clockwork Orange situation would be a movie played 24/7 starring Helen Hunt and Nick Cage

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

did he like Adaptation?

Cage was great in that, twice!

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by Pure Azure on Sep 30, 2011 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kiss of Death and Peggy Sue Got Married

by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2011 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hah hah. He's definitely stranded on a desert island right now.

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by underdog on Sep 30, 2011 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Interesting

I’m on MLB.com and they say I have to pay to watch the postseason that my one year subscription did not include the postseason. However when they give me options:
1. AL/NL Division play 3.99
2. Al/NL Division play + NL Championship Series 5.99

No option for all playoff series.

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 3:01 PM PDT reply actions  

yes there is, the World Series isn’t a playoff series : )

by Josie Becker on Sep 30, 2011 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

My options are missing the AL Championship series

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

As always, blame Fox. Fox has the ALCS, TBS has the NLCS.

by fbihop on Sep 30, 2011 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

2007 – Rockies
2008 – Rays
2009 – Phillies
2010 – Rangers

by shaqfor3 on Sep 30, 2011 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

and you don't get proper feeds right?

just fixed cameras?

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by nolander on Sep 30, 2011 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought that was just TBS’ free feed, I imagine if you pay for it, it has to be the real thing

by Josie Becker on Sep 30, 2011 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Looks like you are right, only fixed camera feeds. Bogus

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is pointless, can’t recommend this to anyone. watching Matt Moore while Hamilton is running to second blows chunks

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was able to load the audio with no problems. I should probably check that credit card statement now :)

by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2011 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Of course I glossed over the worth “watch.” Carry on.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2011 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not the 100,000,000 pitcher……….

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

How much do you think he will get?

I’d love to see us go after him if Kuroda leaves for Japan. 5yrs/75M?

by dodgers4life on Sep 30, 2011 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

That is what people say, I think he gets less.

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't touch him with a straight edge razor

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by Pure Azure on Sep 30, 2011 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Play on his Twitter account name, @str8edgeracer

by fbihop on Sep 30, 2011 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Got it. He would be a great #2 behind Kershaw. Since there has been talk about giving one free agent a nine figure deal I’d use that money to get two free agents instead of one. Signing Wilson and Ramirez would be a better way to spend that money than signing someone like Fielder

by dodgers4life on Sep 30, 2011 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

just smells like too many other FA pitchers who never live up to a big contract, especially since he’s only been a starter for 2 years. Not enough of a track record for me.

Wouldn’t be surprised if he goes to Miami.

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by Pure Azure on Sep 30, 2011 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is it too late to change my ALDS pick for this series?

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by underdog on Sep 30, 2011 3:03 PM PDT reply actions  

that fan

didnt hesitate to throw back that HR ball

by shaqfor3 on Sep 30, 2011 3:05 PM PDT reply actions  

GIF

Via the always-great @bubbaprog

by fbihop on Sep 30, 2011 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Damn that was a nice catch and throw

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

he tracks balls as well as Sands

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 30, 2011 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

That was outstanding.

Now you’re ejected.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2011 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Do they eject people for throwing HRs back on the field?

by fbihop on Sep 30, 2011 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

i think it is park dependent

at DS you are ejected

correct?

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 30, 2011 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

You should be. Most places eject you for throwing objects of any kind on to the field. HR ball included.


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by David Young on Sep 30, 2011 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I always think throwing the ball back is stupid. But the execution here is simply excellent.


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by David Young on Sep 30, 2011 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Imagine never catching a ball in all your years in DS, and finally a ball come your way, and you snag it, but it is Matt Stairs’ NLCS HR ball. Like injection a dozen speedballs, “OH YEAH! OH SHIT.”


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by David Young on Sep 30, 2011 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you caught Matt Stairs’ home run, it would have likely broken your hand, unless it went completely through the body of the person directly in front of you.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2011 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think that ball ever landed

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by Pure Azure on Sep 30, 2011 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

"Intentional Walk" urban dictionary word of the day

When an individual feels pity for a fellow being and gives them a free pass to “first base”.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Intentional%20Walk&defid=5838742

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by DodgerSF on Sep 30, 2011 3:05 PM PDT reply actions  

I have never been “intentionally walked”

by wukunlin on Sep 30, 2011 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I once hit an inside-the-park home run, if you know what I mean.

by fbihop on Sep 30, 2011 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

touched them all the hard way

by wukunlin on Sep 30, 2011 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Now that makes it sound horrible.

by fbihop on Sep 30, 2011 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

as long as it wasn’t on a bus with 5 year olds, its cool

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 30, 2011 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

hhahah. i laugh, but ya, don’t steal home.

"They say The Jet's lost a step or two... but I wouldn't be surprised to see some fireworks here."

by DodgerSF on Sep 30, 2011 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

You had a solid hit, she slipped and fell, then said ah the heck with it?


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by David Young on Sep 30, 2011 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

she related to ryan braun?

by wukunlin on Sep 30, 2011 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or she was really good at it.


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by David Young on Sep 30, 2011 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

sucks to be a baseball fan on the other side of the globe

I can’t make up my mind on whether to get a mlb.tv subscription

most games finish by the time I get home from college

by wukunlin on Sep 30, 2011 3:12 PM PDT reply actions  

3.99 less then the price of a beer

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Unless its a PBR. Oh wait, that’s not beer.

/suckithipsters

by fbihop on Sep 30, 2011 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just subscribed

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

It appears you can’t watch on the PS3 in the US or Canada? Lame.

by fbihop on Sep 30, 2011 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Women

http://i.imgur.com/5Sb9x.png

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by DodgerSF on Sep 30, 2011 3:14 PM PDT reply actions  

there’s one for men too

"They say The Jet's lost a step or two... but I wouldn't be surprised to see some fireworks here."

by DodgerSF on Sep 30, 2011 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Natalie Portman is a pretty, fat bitch?

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 30, 2011 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

a girl that is pretty and nice is easy, a girl that is pretty and smart is a bitch, a girl that is smart and nice is fat. A girl that is pretty, nice, and smart is Natalie Portman

by Josie Becker on Sep 30, 2011 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I understand what it is trying to say. I also understand how Venn Diagrams work.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 30, 2011 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

x

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by nolander on Sep 30, 2011 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I laughed


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by David Young on Sep 30, 2011 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

dude

did they not teach ven diagrams at your elementary school?

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by nolander on Sep 30, 2011 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am certain Nolij is joking.


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by David Young on Sep 30, 2011 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Either way if someone does not understand a Venn Diagram you educate them not mock them.

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thats not how the internet works

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by nolander on Sep 30, 2011 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I

Am happy tosay I have no idea what a Venn diagram is and how it is interpreted.

by bhsportsguy on Sep 30, 2011 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not as bad as the creator of this one.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 30, 2011 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

they should pull Wilson and hope for game 4

by NotJoeTorre on Sep 30, 2011 3:14 PM PDT reply actions  

Never Give Up, Never Surrendor

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think they know something about 7 – 0 ?

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 30, 2011 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

hes throwing a lot of pitches, that is basically all I am going with

by NotJoeTorre on Sep 30, 2011 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would be soooo piiiissssed

If I was at Arlington and paid good money for these playoff tickets..

I’ve only been to two Dodgers playoff games and remarkably they were both the only home wins against Philly in the last two NLCS’s..

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Sep 30, 2011 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

You should have went to more games!

by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2011 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

We have a new scapegoat! Chad and JB are off the hook!

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by Nolij on Sep 30, 2011 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, where were you during the Stairs game?

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 30, 2011 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Watching the Ray Game when they were losing 7 – 0 I thought back to the Goltz game and said to myself, I understand how you Ray fans feel. Then the won. Fuckers, I wanted that feeling. For 31 years I wanted that feeling.

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I started watching that Rays-Yanks game

when the Rays had the bases loaded and scored their first run, starting the rally. I’m glad I stayed home that night and witnessed that crazy baseball madness.

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by Pure Azure on Sep 30, 2011 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was getting ready to go to Rosh Hashanah services when things started heating up, and I stayed and watched baseball. If G-d had wanted me to go to shul, he would have made the games more boring.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 30, 2011 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I didn’t get to see any of it, but I did annoy the hell out of my girlfriend by checking my phone every 30 seconds all night.

by fbihop on Sep 30, 2011 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Helen Hunt?
Eagles?
Goltz?

all someone has to bring up is The Doors or FullPack for Marty’s day to be complete

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 30, 2011 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Phil:worse/worst::Eric:went/gone


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by David Young on Sep 30, 2011 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was laughing because I made that same correction in your article last night. (Anal, I know.)


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by David Young on Sep 30, 2011 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

haha

I bought tickets for NLDS game 4 but I didnt need them because Chicago got owned. I changed my flight from SF to get back for it and everything! Didnt feel too bad about paying to change it since things were looking up.

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Sep 30, 2011 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m 2-3 in the postseason. Victorino/Stairs, Holliday’s nads, Pedro vs. Vicente.


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by David Young on Sep 30, 2011 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think I’m below .500 overall, but I was at 1988 NLCS Game 7 (the best game I have ever attended) and WS Game 1.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 30, 2011 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

You could be 2-10 and that would be awesome

by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2011 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly.


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by David Young on Sep 30, 2011 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was going to go full hyperbole and say 2-100, but man that would get annoying.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2011 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m not all that old. That would be some downright crappy playoff performances. Kind of like the Braves.

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by Nolij on Sep 30, 2011 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah. I’ve had a pretty good run. Also Denny Martinez’ perfecto, Steve Finley, LoDuca 6-6…

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 30, 2011 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

hot damn

were you in Milwaukee for Shawn Green’s 4 HR game?

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by Pure Azure on Sep 30, 2011 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Let me check my calendar…

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 30, 2011 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nolij was off to the side watching Jansen catch a bullpen and said aloud, “Nice arm. You should be on the mound.”

Then, Charlie Hough raised his eyebrow.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2011 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fortunately, G.Scott was there too, showing him how to throw a slider.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 30, 2011 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

this is becoming very Forrest Gump-y

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by Pure Azure on Sep 30, 2011 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was thinking The Observers from Fringe.

by fbihop on Sep 30, 2011 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or as it was later called, "The Curious Case of Benjamin Button"

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by Julio Pena on Sep 30, 2011 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

4-5 for me

Game 2 of the 1988 World Series
0-1 in 1995
1-1 in 2004
0-1 in 2006
1-2 in 2008 (closing out the Cubs, 3-4 of NLCS)
1-0 in 2009 (NLCS)

plus 0-1 for watching the Angels lose Game 5 of the ALCS

by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2011 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

did he not see that ball?

by NotJoeTorre on Sep 30, 2011 3:23 PM PDT reply actions  

erases the fluke double

by NotJoeTorre on Sep 30, 2011 3:26 PM PDT reply actions  

Moore thru 4

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by Pure Azure on Sep 30, 2011 3:29 PM PDT reply actions  

Beltre hasn’t had a good game with the glove, he should of attempted a play on the Zobrist bunt earlier

by NotJoeTorre on Sep 30, 2011 3:38 PM PDT reply actions  

What move did the Angel’s make?

pedrogomezESPN: MLB Hot Stove League off and running (W/Sox, R/Sox, Halos) before first playoff game. What will be left for Winter Meetings?

by Josie Becker on Sep 30, 2011 3:38 PM PDT reply actions  

Reagins fired

see Reg above

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by nolander on Sep 30, 2011 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dumped GM

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Moved the guy who makes moves

by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2011 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bet they wish they had the dude he fired back

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Vernon Wells extension

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by Pure Azure on Sep 30, 2011 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kelly Shoppach, early leader for postseason MVP

by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2011 3:42 PM PDT reply actions  

okay now they should pull Wilson

by NotJoeTorre on Sep 30, 2011 3:43 PM PDT reply actions  

“I think you can go get him now.”

by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2011 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or, as Dan Johnson calls it, like a billion.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 30, 2011 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wilson was either right over the plate or 4-5 inches off the plate. Not good

by NotJoeTorre on Sep 30, 2011 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Shoppach is why baseball rules

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by Pure Azure on Sep 30, 2011 3:43 PM PDT reply actions  

The dude has had three double digit home run seasons while never playing full time

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can't let Longoria have all the fun.

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by Julio Pena on Sep 30, 2011 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Russ Mitchell’s buddy just signed a three year deal for 8.25 Million

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 3:43 PM PDT reply actions  

yes

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Must not do political captions

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 30, 2011 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

“Have you tried chewin on your glasses? I tell ya, it’s tasty”

by Josie Becker on Sep 30, 2011 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

If he took an Advil he could go another nine innings.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2011 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nolan

Ryan was the first player who I actively sought out to see during his time with the Angels.

by bhsportsguy on Sep 30, 2011 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I never liked him, he seem to get all the praise that should have gone to Tanana.

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Mike Witt to Tanana’s Chuck Finley?

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 30, 2011 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Frank got top billing once

Tanana and Ryan and two days of cryin’.


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by David Young on Sep 30, 2011 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Phillies this year ruined chances to make such fun nicknames for a short rotation.

“Halladay, Lee, Hamels, and we still have Roy Oswalt? What the fuck are we crying about?”

by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2011 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Roy, Cliff, Cole and Roy. Piss your pants like a little boy.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 30, 2011 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gravity sucks

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yet, still, Sterling went with Dunleavy.

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by Nolij on Sep 30, 2011 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

and later

chose Vinny Del Negro over Dwane Casey

by shaqfor3 on Sep 30, 2011 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

b

ecause every owner picks the coach and not the GM

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Beltre’s agent did a better time the 3rd time then the 1st time

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Was that whiplash from watching Lackey pitch?

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

He found his way into a whirpool and was spiraling downward out of control.

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by Nolij on Sep 30, 2011 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

something, something

Natalie wood

something

Carol Rosenblum

snark, snark

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 30, 2011 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

bitchy comment

bitchy comment

dick joke

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by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 30, 2011 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

lol from puppy.


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by David Young on Sep 30, 2011 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Was saving Matt Moore till the post season designed?

The league hasnt seen him and seems to be a huge advantage.

by Joey Joe on Sep 30, 2011 3:56 PM PDT reply actions  

Brilliant strategy

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Possibly

but not for that reason. Maybe it was just to keep his young arm fresh.

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by nolander on Sep 30, 2011 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Worked with David Price too. The key to secret weapons is having weapons worth keeping secret.

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by Nolij on Sep 30, 2011 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

they didn't start price though

just had him relieve.

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by nolander on Sep 30, 2011 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Indeed. It’s a hell of a pantry from which to choose.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2011 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mike Vacarro tweeted something like “so the Red Sox and Rays were headed for Thursday with a thin pitching rotation, and one team was looking for Bruce Chen while the other had Matt Moore?”

by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2011 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Are you sure?

It even worked with James McDonald.


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by David Young on Sep 30, 2011 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

So Kershaw only gets one year of being the best left hander in baseball:)

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 3:57 PM PDT reply actions  

what happen to the kid from the Kazmir trade? I thought he was decent?

by NotJoeTorre on Sep 30, 2011 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sean Rodriguez is leading off

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by nolander on Sep 30, 2011 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

and he just lined out

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by nolander on Sep 30, 2011 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

and he’s a middle infielder not a 1st baseman

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah but matt sweeney sucks

and the other guy was a lh pitcher

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by nolander on Sep 30, 2011 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

also

matt sweeney is a 3b

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by nolander on Sep 30, 2011 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

or where you agreeing with me :)

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by nolander on Sep 30, 2011 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sean

is a 2nd/SS/3rd not a 1st baseman

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Matt Sweeney followed up his OPS of .665 last year with a .544 this year in AA.

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by Nolij on Sep 30, 2011 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nice job of selling high

by NotJoeTorre on Sep 30, 2011 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

the Rays need Prince

by NotJoeTorre on Sep 30, 2011 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Home run star Dan Johnson.

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by Nolij on Sep 30, 2011 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have no idea why

but James Loney just seems like the kind of guy that would thrive in Tampa.

by court168627 on Sep 30, 2011 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

he would top their payroll

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

He runs like a retiree.


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by David Young on Sep 30, 2011 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

They signed a Cuban guy (Leslie Anderson) a few years ago but he has not done much. They have mostly pitching prospects but two good SS.

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

and OF prospects

or the did till they called them up and they mashed

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by nolander on Sep 30, 2011 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Leslie Anderson sounds like

a 50s/60s actress name. Would have co-starred with Peter Lawford and the like.


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by David Young on Sep 30, 2011 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

could always move an OF to 1B no?

by wukunlin on Sep 30, 2011 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

So James Loney for Jeff Neiman:)
Sign Prince

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Potato, potato

lets call the whole thing off

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 30, 2011 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

seriously, they might as well put “resign” in quotes.

by court168627 on Sep 30, 2011 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I said those both the same way in my head

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Sep 30, 2011 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Always a rebel, rebel.


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by David Young on Sep 30, 2011 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

its all scoiscia's fault!

rabble rabble rabble

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by nolander on Sep 30, 2011 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Grady Little resigned from the Dodgers, too.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2011 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

When an owner says what Arte Moreno said, which is “We remained short of our objective in winning a championship. In moving forward, we felt a change was needed,” it is more than Reagins resigning.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2011 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

In his mind he was saying “that sonofabitch is never going to talk me into giving 21,000,000 to another piece of shit player ever again”. And I get to do it again and again. Fuck

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

4-pitch walk

3rd pitch looks good on gameday though

by wukunlin on Sep 30, 2011 4:06 PM PDT reply actions  

WHy the hell would you have your #3 hitter bunt when you’re down by 8 in a playoff game?

by court168627 on Sep 30, 2011 4:07 PM PDT reply actions  

cocaine

is a hell of a drug

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by nolander on Sep 30, 2011 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

“looks like we’re gonna lose no matter what, might as well have some fun and mess with their head a bit”

by wukunlin on Sep 30, 2011 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

If that’s the Rangers idea of “messing with their head,” I guess yeah, the Rays probably now think they’re total fucking idiots. Because they are.

by court168627 on Sep 30, 2011 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

make sure there is enough time for a good postgame program?

by NotJoeTorre on Sep 30, 2011 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

have a feeling TBS is cutting this one off at the three hour mark no matter what, then showing 37 minutes of the Yankee logo

by Josie Becker on Sep 30, 2011 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Anyone take the 10 – 1 Ray Shutout odds?

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hamilton giving props to Moore by deciding he can’t hit him? Plus it is the day time and you know how Hamilton feels about the day time.

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

or maybe

hamilton wants his 1.000 AVG for this game

by wukunlin on Sep 30, 2011 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Reyes can’t hear the laughter. He’s too busy polishing his batting title award (he bought a placeholder until he gets the actual award)

by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2011 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

do they actually give out hardware for stat leaders?

by court168627 on Sep 30, 2011 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Apparently it rained

out here awhile ago. The mall is all wet

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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Sep 30, 2011 4:09 PM PDT reply actions  

I guess we know the answer to this question today

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by underdog on Sep 30, 2011 4:09 PM PDT reply actions  

(Hint: Rhymes with Vijay Stilson)

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by underdog on Sep 30, 2011 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Harry Nillson?

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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Sep 30, 2011 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

You're missing The Point.

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by underdog on Sep 30, 2011 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

MLB Gameday

has a new dropdown results tab for each series at the top of the screen. I really like it.

by court168627 on Sep 30, 2011 4:14 PM PDT reply actions  

I hate it

Its annoying, the popups are huge and sometimes simply don’t go away obscuring the info I do want to see.

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by nolander on Sep 30, 2011 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

i was having the same problem at first, but if you just wand back over it it should fix it.

by court168627 on Sep 30, 2011 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Feldman has good stuff, he would be a good fit as a 4/5 starter for us

by NotJoeTorre on Sep 30, 2011 4:15 PM PDT reply actions  

If his stuff is that good

he’ll be a good 4/5 starter for the Rangers next year.

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by nolander on Sep 30, 2011 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

hes getting paid around 7 mil next year, that’s a good reason as well

by NotJoeTorre on Sep 30, 2011 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you mean Tim Beckham his luster was restored a bit this year.

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

21 year old SS already in AAA

putting up a .750 line, nothing to sneeze at.

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

his career line is nothing though

265/331/382

He’s Matt Bush without the injuries

by Joey Joe on Sep 30, 2011 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not at all, he’s 21 in the AAA. Get a grip

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

he got all of 111 ABs in AAA this year

and he’ll be 22 next year beginning in AAA.

by Joey Joe on Sep 30, 2011 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Scouts loved what he did this year compared to the past. If he turns 24 and is still in AAA then they blew the pick but he’ll probably be in the major leagues next year as a starting major league SS, so blowing the pick seems extreme in evaluating a 21 year old minor league prospect who has not stalled but made it all the way to AAA.

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

what did they like?

2010 – 256/346/359 (119ks/62bbs)
2011- 271/328/408 (120ks/42bbs)

He did hit 12homers in 2011, so a spike there…but i’m not seeing anything about this player that screams he’s going to be good.

by Joey Joe on Sep 30, 2011 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

what did they like about Dee Gordon?

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by nolander on Sep 30, 2011 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Speed and (somehow) defense. Becks clearly isn’t Dee’s league on speed, and his error totals don’t make me think his defense is a plus-plus tool.

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by Nolij on Sep 30, 2011 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Has anyone seen how many errors Andrus made in the minors? Hes the best defender in the league now.. can’t really use stats in the minors for defense. Scouting is the real tool there.

by NotJoeTorre on Sep 30, 2011 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

or even more relevant

how many dee made

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by nolander on Sep 30, 2011 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s made a few in the majors too. I definitely have hope for him to be a plus-defender though.

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by Nolij on Sep 30, 2011 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Way more steals
Way less ks

by Joey Joe on Sep 30, 2011 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

he was a great athlete and ok baseball player

they liked the projection

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 30, 2011 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

The projection has worked for Matt Kemp.


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by David Young on Sep 30, 2011 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Skills I guess

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

HQ Scout
Good to see him playing better this year and I agree if you removed the former 1st overall player tag, he’d be a player worth watching. His so-so defense and so-so bat keep him from being a top prospect, but there is still some offensive potential and he has youth on his side. Might not become an all-star, but might yet have a serviceable career and the Rays still believe otherwise they wouldn’t have him at AAA.

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Was blowing him part of his lustrous contract?

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by underdog on Sep 30, 2011 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not really

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

however the 2008 draft for Tampa kind of blew chunks. Bit shocking that BRef has them under Devil Rays for the draft.

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

i really like this argument.

by court168627 on Sep 30, 2011 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just imagine Hosmer added to that team.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 30, 2011 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dodgers got Dee Gordon in the 4th rd of that draft.
Looking way more productive at SS than the #1 overall pick….and Dee’s nothing great.

by Joey Joe on Sep 30, 2011 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you want to say they blew the pick on what they could have got I can’t argue, if you are going to call him Matt Bush then you are off base.

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

When I see Tim Beckham play

I’m reminded of a young Eugenio Velez.

by court168627 on Sep 30, 2011 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

JK.

I have no effing clue who you’re talking about.

by court168627 on Sep 30, 2011 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

When have you seen him play? When did you see young Eh-you-hen-ee-oh play?

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by Nolij on Sep 30, 2011 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Matt Bush – #1 overall HS SS…light hitter…never recovered
TIm Beckham – #1 overal HS SS…light hitter…continues to be light hitter

If the Dodgers had drafted Beckham and he put up the numbers he’s had…i’d say there was very little chance he’d ever be a productive MLB’er.

by Joey Joe on Sep 30, 2011 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

MLB is full of light hitting shortstops these days. Matt Bush never made it out of A ball. Still don’t see the comparison.

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bush wasn’t even a legit number one pick, I guess it doesn’t matter but still

by NotJoeTorre on Sep 30, 2011 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thats because Bush got hurt and had substance abuse issues

by Joey Joe on Sep 30, 2011 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dee would never have been a realistic option at #1, whereas Hosmer or Pedro Alvarez, or even Gordon Beckham would have been.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 30, 2011 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know – i’m not saying they should have picked Gordon at all.

by Joey Joe on Sep 30, 2011 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d like to see Craig Gentry and Jason Bourgeois play in the same outfield together. The highest class outfield of all time.

by court168627 on Sep 30, 2011 4:19 PM PDT reply actions  

The Gentry would never stand to be in the same outfield with the Bourgeois

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 30, 2011 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

But he would gladly share the field with Cubs catching prospect Chad Noble.

by court168627 on Sep 30, 2011 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

And Zach Duke and Prince Fielder.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Sep 30, 2011 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Moore
Price
Hellickson
Shields
Neiman
Davis

Boston is drooling as they go slack jawed, knowing they are spending more money on Jon Lackey then that rotation combined.

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 4:30 PM PDT reply actions  

$42M – right?

the whole fucking shebang

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 30, 2011 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

85 million

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by nolander on Sep 30, 2011 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

cite your source please…..

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 30, 2011 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cots
5 years/$82.5M (2010-14), plus conditional 2015 option
.
    signed by Boston as a free agent 12/16/09
    $3.5M signing bonus
    10:$18M, 11:$15.25M, 12:$15.25M, 13:$15.25M, 14:$15.25M

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

ahhh, I see

$42M is the Rays payroll this year

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 30, 2011 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

yet more proof

that buying wins on the free agent market is an inefficient way of running payroll.

by court168627 on Sep 30, 2011 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

well, if you got the cash, it can work

but not the only way to skin the cat

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 30, 2011 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Shields 4.25
Price 1.25
Davis 1.00
Niemann .900
Hellicksonson .420
Moore – whatever

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

goddamn.

that is truly impressive.

by court168627 on Sep 30, 2011 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Whatever happened to Andy Sonnanstine?

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by Nolij on Sep 30, 2011 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

if they win the World Series

i expect a sequel

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by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 30, 2011 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

extra 2% is on my coffee table but i have yet to read it

by Joey Joe on Sep 30, 2011 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Shields has an amazing team friendly deal.

by Joey Joe on Sep 30, 2011 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

all of the Tampa deals are. They give their rookies money in the beginning, something no one else does.

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Price isn’t a free agent until after 2014.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2011 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

So it was a Joey Phact? ;-)


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by David Young on Sep 30, 2011 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Someone didnt alert Cots then:
David Price lhp
6 years/$8.5M (2007-12)

    * 6 years/$8.5M (2007-12)
          o signed Major League contract with Tampa Bay 8/15/07
          o $5.6M signing bonus (paid in 6 installments each Aug. 31, 2007-12)
          o 07:$0.5M, 08:$0.65M, 09:$0.75M, 10:$1M, 11:$1.25M, 12:$1.5M
          o salaries in minors: 08:$0.1M, 09:$0.15M, 10:$0.2M, 11:$0.65M, 12:$1.2M

by Joey Joe on Sep 30, 2011 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cot's is correct

That was the contract he signed when he was drafted. It doesn’t affect his free agency.

Check Matt Kemp and Andre Ethier on Cot’s. They both signed multi-year deals through 2011. Are they free agents now?

by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2011 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

They werent signed to MLB contracts when they were drafted.

by Joey Joe on Sep 30, 2011 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

An MLB contract doesn’t create service time out of thin air.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2011 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think so, isn’t that simply the end of the major league deal he signed in the beginning? He has to still be under Tampa control. Eric?

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would imagine they will try to sign Price to a long-term deal this winter. He will be a Super Two.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2011 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

They should trade him for a 1st baseman like Jim Loney

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Rays manipulated Price’s service time to perfection. He was optioned at the start of 2009, then recalled on May 25. Price is eight days shy of another full season of service time.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2011 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought if you signed someone to a MLB contract when they were drafted…their 6yr clock automatically started then…3 non arbitration years..then 3 arbitration years

by Joey Joe on Sep 30, 2011 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nope, it puts them on the 40-man immediately and starts burning option years.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2011 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nope, you just have to put them on the 40 man.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Sep 30, 2011 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I must have been hallucinating. Could've sworn Rangers had Josh Hamilton sac bunt down 8-0

I didn’t see that, right?

Probably just side effect from snorting cocaine.

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by underdog on Sep 30, 2011 4:31 PM PDT reply actions  

Yeah

that 3 team trade was all win

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by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 30, 2011 4:36 PM PDT reply actions  

With EJax flipped to the Chisox for Dan Hudson, then going to St. Louis to help them, yeah everyone won. Except the White Sox.


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by David Young on Sep 30, 2011 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Man. The White Sox love acquiring big namish players that end up disappointing them.

by court168627 on Sep 30, 2011 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don’t forget the Blue Jays in this scenario.

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by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

That trade was always short term vs long term. Cards got the short term benefit, but now the Jays need Rasmus to provide the long-term part.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2011 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Right. Toronto’s story is still developing.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 30, 2011 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seattle got one nice HR-robbing catch, Boston got a guy who pitched a few decent innings, but couldn’t stop the bleeding from the training room and we got 2 hits from a AAA catcher. Hooray for everyone.

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by Nolij on Sep 30, 2011 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

heh

sorry, i thought everyon was watching the game

I was talking about the D-Back/Tiger/Yankee trade.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 30, 2011 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Right

in that trade EJax went from Detroit to Arizona. Then later traded for Hudson, thus the discussion above.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 30, 2011 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

ah

i should have read your post closer, and Nolij’s less closely.

no offense Nolij

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 30, 2011 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

i just got compared to a sawx

Fan because of my Steeler alliance. I may be kicked out by game #2 of my daughters basketball league

by Greg Stephen on Sep 30, 2011 4:38 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Per Danny Knobler of CBS Sports
I hear pitching coach Don Cooper, who got contract extension with White Sox, pushing for Francona as mgr

by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2011 4:40 PM PDT reply actions  

Hmmmm.

That’s just crazy enough to suck.

by court168627 on Sep 30, 2011 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

probably know each other

Francona managed for the White Sox in the minors…he was Michael Jordan’s guy.

by Joey Joe on Sep 30, 2011 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep

Never on the same coaching staff, but Cooper was the minor league pitching coordinator in 1993 and 1994, which were Francona’s first two years in Birmingham.

In 1992, Francona managed in South Bend in the Midwest League while Cooper was the pitching coach in Birmingham. Both in Sox organization.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2011 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

2nd MLB start

7 innings, 2 hits, 0 runs, 2 walks, 6 strikeouts. Against a team that averaged over 6 runs per game at home.

Welcome to the grand MLB stage.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 30, 2011 4:43 PM PDT reply actions  

Nothing like your first two major league starts coming against the Yankee’s and Rangers with so much on the line. I’d be hard pressed to think of anyone whose first two starts had more leverage then these.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Sep 30, 2011 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

someone should ask Ron Washington

his opinion of Shoppach’s performance

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 30, 2011 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Matt Moore

Postseason Winner

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 30, 2011 5:10 PM PDT reply actions  

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