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Dodgers Tuesday Links: Matt Kemp MVP? Adrian Beltre Hall Of Fame?

Now that the Dodgers have lost two games in a row, let's take our mind off things with some Tuesday morning Dodgers links...

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the hate thread, just when I was just about to jump in.

These Dodgers are making me thirsty!

by Josie Becker on Sep 6, 2011 11:05 AM PDT reply actions  

for blood?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 6, 2011 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

These Dodgers....

are making me THIRSTY!

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Sep 6, 2011 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

no no no

you’re putting the emphasis on the wrong word.

These Dodgers are MAKING ME Thirsty!

by Josie Becker on Sep 6, 2011 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Andre has plenty of liquid in his knee

Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.

by Pure Azure on Sep 6, 2011 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Juan Pierre should have 4,000 hits by now with the way he hacks at everything.

by kinbote on Sep 6, 2011 11:09 AM PDT reply actions  

Juan Pierre, professional slapper

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by Pure Azure on Sep 6, 2011 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think, with some the stigmas that are on him

Beltre will need 3000 hits to get to the HOF.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 6, 2011 11:14 AM PDT reply actions  

I haven’t read the Neyer story as I was doing my own research on Beltre, but if he continues in this arc he will end up being one of the top five 3rd baseman in history in hits and home runs and his glove plays with all of them. Other then Robinson, Schmidt, and Boggs most of the historically great 3rd baseman did a lot of time at 1st and DH later in their careers. At this point he’s been 99% 3rd baseman and seems to have the glovework to continue for at least two more years. The glove didn’t help Santa any so it may not help Beltre any but our 19 year 3rd base phenom has had a hell of a career.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 6, 2011 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

the story was pretty simple and short

If he gets rated as he should among his 3B peers he should get in. But I know it does not really work like that.

by delias man on Sep 6, 2011 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

only for catchers and middle infielders

@RB_GScott

by G.Scott on Sep 6, 2011 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

He’s about to hit some real select company when he connects on his next two home runs giving him 300 home runs and 2,000 hits.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 6, 2011 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Should the Dodgers ever get to .500... nah

Braun will probably win it

The more you drink, the less gruesome I look.
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by Paul Udani on Sep 6, 2011 11:18 AM PDT reply actions  

Speaking of Neyer

Pretty fun read regarding WAR, sort of a rebuttal of a non-specific straw-man against the stat.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 6, 2011 11:23 AM PDT reply actions  

I largely agree with him but there are people that use WAR in very stupid ways, usually involving adding them together.

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by regfairfield on Sep 6, 2011 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

WAR is sometimes abused on these very pages

WAR is a light, not a cudgel

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 6, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

How not to use WAR:

1) Bad player+bad player != good player
2) Realize that there’s a margin of error in UZR so that anyone within .5 wins in either direction is equivalent
3) Don’t try to predict the future based on one year of UZR

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by regfairfield on Sep 6, 2011 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

5) Don’t use it to prove, use it to understand

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 6, 2011 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

But it is very hard to prove that someone is a good defender.

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by regfairfield on Sep 6, 2011 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Single season WAR for pitchers is probably more accurate than single season WAR for position players. But then it’s two different equations.

by Tripon on Sep 6, 2011 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did Eric already do this?

If anyone is freaking out about Dee Gordons’s two walks so far at the beginning of his career he’s in good company. The following SS had zero walks in their first 55 at bats.
Jose Reyes
Michael Young
Orlando Cabrerra
Erik Aybar
Placido Polanco

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 6, 2011 11:23 AM PDT reply actions  

So you’re saying there’s a chance…

The more you drink, the less gruesome I look.
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by Paul Udani on Sep 6, 2011 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Did any have as few as 2 in 130abs?

by Joey Joe on Sep 6, 2011 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Can’t get that, the play index only gives me a starting point of a career with a game with zero walks.

Maybe Eric knows how to take it further.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 6, 2011 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

need to search game logs further through some of the zero dudes I suppose.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 6, 2011 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

never understood why they didn’t also put tarps on the outfield grass.

@RB_GScott

by G.Scott on Sep 6, 2011 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

because you want rain on grass???

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 6, 2011 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed, although most if not all of the ballparks have pretty sophisticated drainage systems for the grass areas.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 6, 2011 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

That was my thought as well.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 6, 2011 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

The only thing I miss about artificial grass in baseball is the ZAMBONI machine. Or am I thinking of Hockey and ice?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 6, 2011 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

turf = vacuum machines, ice = zamboni

@RB_GScott

by G.Scott on Sep 6, 2011 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

true, that’ll keep it from puddling, but won’t keep it from being slick as shit out there.

@RB_GScott

by G.Scott on Sep 6, 2011 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

He must be lonely. Would TBLA be credentialed if we traveled since no one else is?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 6, 2011 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think Eric has enough frequent flyer miles for that : )

by Josie Becker on Sep 6, 2011 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Silly Josie, the more he travels the more he earns:)

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 6, 2011 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Gotta spend money to make money.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 6, 2011 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

You mean that blogging about baseball doesn’t pay enough to follow the team around?

by fbihop on Sep 6, 2011 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Depends on the team in some cases. I’m sure the Dodgers PR department would help if needed.

I simply asked directly to the Padres and Angels and got in, but other teams (Rockies, for one) aren’t as blog friendly.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 6, 2011 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Phil, let me be the first to say...

Welcome to the dark side.

I too, at one time was positive.
When the McCourt’s bought the team and hired DePodesta…i figured we were going to get Red Sox West…A smart team that knew how to build, and that had the funds to do it.

Too bad, it didnt work out.

But its easier to roll with the punches when you’re no longer emotionally invested, but rather watching from the sidelines.

Because in all honestly…Snarking is more fun that getting frustrated with incompetance.

by Joey Joe on Sep 6, 2011 11:29 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Really good and detailed overview of Tommy John surgery (including video) by Nathan Fenno of The Washington Times.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 6, 2011 11:32 AM PDT reply actions  

Nats lineup...weather permitting of course

Desmond SS
Werth CF
Zimmerman 3B
Morse LF
Gomes RF
Espinosa 2B
Marrero 1B
Ramos C
Strasburg P

by Eric Stephen on Sep 6, 2011 11:35 AM PDT reply actions  

http://www.weather.com/weather/today/USDC0001

Dont think its going to happen tonight.
100% chance of rain with 1inch expected and more possible.

by Joey Joe on Sep 6, 2011 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

It’s going to be fucking hard to get this game in.

by Xeifrank on Sep 6, 2011 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Angels PR man Eric Kay passed along the note that if Mark Trumbo wins ROY it will be the first time “LA” has had two ROY in the same year since Raul Mondesi and Jerome Bettis in 1994.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 6, 2011 11:36 AM PDT reply actions  

I had not clue what he meant until I clicked on the tweet. This is pathetic but my first thought was which Laker won ROY.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 6, 2011 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

My fault there actually; I meant to include Blake Griffin in my comment.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 6, 2011 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

I thought he was REALLY impressed by Rubby

@RB_GScott

by G.Scott on Sep 6, 2011 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

I wonder who was the last city to do that? We and other big market cities should have an unfair advantage (even though no NFL). You got hockey and the Galaxy and I wonder if you can count the Sparks? Heck, if you count the Clippers you’d have to count the Sparks.

by Xeifrank on Sep 6, 2011 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hey Hey

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 6, 2011 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Weird how

the East coast gets the memo that summer is over like right away…but we’ll have summer for a few months more

by Josie Becker on Sep 6, 2011 11:39 AM PDT reply actions  

hot rain I’m sure, summer is still happening.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 6, 2011 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

hot rain is a concept I just don’t understand. I think I might have experienced as a child.

by Josie Becker on Sep 6, 2011 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Warm rain while in a pool is all kinds of cool.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 6, 2011 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Warm rain while in a pool is all kinds of cool.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 6, 2011 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

In the tropics

surfing in a warm rain, in warm ocean water is transcendent

I was in costa rica surfing this river mouth break with just my brother and a friend. A hard down pour pounded us for hours, so hard that it transformed the surface of the water into a mist that was about a foot high – clouds got so low that we could hardly see the jungle on the shore

thank you for reminding me of this

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 6, 2011 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Your life should be an autobiographical film.

@RB_GScott

by G.Scott on Sep 6, 2011 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

No shit, I think I’ve lived a fairly full live and then HJ just pours salt on that memory.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 6, 2011 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Finished a night dive in Costa Rica

In the bay by Playa El Coco. Great dive, waiting on the surface for the boat to pick us up, looked up and saw the North Star, then looked to the south and we could see the Southern Cross. Started moving around and there was electric blue bioluminescence in the water. Fortunately, the dive boat captain was probably doing a J, because it took him almost ten minutes to notice us and pick us up. We didn’t mind.

by The Dude Abides on Sep 6, 2011 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

love the visual.

23 years ago I was supposed to go to Costa Rica for river rafting and diving. No one knew jack about Costa Rica at the time, I did all sorts of reading it and was telling all my friends about the jewel of Central America.

I never made it and I’ve still never been. I feel like the crank in the beginning of UP.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 6, 2011 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I really want to go back

Only been there once, and it was primarily a dive trip. I’d love to hit up the Arenal area, then Manuel Antonio area, then do a liveaboard dive trip out to Cocos Island. I’ve seen a school of about 20 hammerheads from about five feet away, but I’d love to see one with hundreds of them.

by The Dude Abides on Sep 6, 2011 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Have you dived the Sea of Cortez?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 6, 2011 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

A bunch of times

That’s where I saw the hammerheads, at El Bajo Seamount. Cabo Pulmo is awesome for the fish life. Cabo San Lucas is by far the best city harbor diving in the world, although technically that’s not the Sea of Cortez. We once were right in the middle of a school of 10,000 mackerel that was being herded and hunted by about 20 or 30 yellowfin. On that same dive there were about a dozen sea lions, then out of the corner of my eye I saw something shoot down from the surface to about 40-ft depth. Thought it was a turtle, got closer and it was a cormorant hunting for fish. Swam up to it, maybe three feet away, and it completely ignored me, darting its head into and out of the rocks.

by The Dude Abides on Sep 6, 2011 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Great

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 6, 2011 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Should add that on a later dive in the CSL harbor

Saw a squadron of about ten spotted eagle rays, all in formation. Incredible sight, although the schools of thousands of cownose rays you can see in Costa Rica are pretty awesome as well…but the spotted eagle ray is so incredibly beautiful that seeing a handful of them “flying” in synchronization is quite the sight.

by The Dude Abides on Sep 6, 2011 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

in Jamacia

we went to a golf course where it started raining for several minutes, then the sun came back out and dried us out very quickly.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 6, 2011 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

The hazards of planning to see a pitcher

The worst case scenario is all 3 games get rained out in DC. Then my guess would be the rotation in SF would be Lilly, Bills and Kershaw. Kershaw would then pitch the Friday game against the Pirates and then either Wednesday or Thursday game against the Giants. He would get his final start in Arizona against their AAA team since they should have clinched their playoff spot by then.

by bhsportsguy on Sep 6, 2011 11:44 AM PDT reply actions  

I dont think all 3 will get rained out, but if 1 does they may not make it up.

by Joey Joe on Sep 6, 2011 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

They’ll try to, though. That’s money in the bank, regardless of playoff implications (or lack thereof).

@RB_GScott

by G.Scott on Sep 6, 2011 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

On the topic of fandom....whats your favorites/least favorite moments as a fan..

Me personally:

Best moment – Rams winning the Super Bowl. I dont think anything will ever top that because when you are emotionally invested in a team that had been as bad as the Rams had been for as long as they had been (the entire 1990s)…winning in the way they did and the team they had…doesnt get any better than that.

Worst moment – I have to say the Rams again…losing to the Carolina Panthers in double OT at home..just was a killer, especially given how they came back in the game. I think they would have made the Super Bowl that season.

The Patriots loss doesnt bother me as much for some reason. Maybe bc the Super Bowl is as far as you can go…and since they got there and had just won 2yrs before…i wasnt that bummed out they lost.

Best individual game (apart from Super Bowl) – Lakers-Blazers Game 7..coming back from 15..Shaw’s banker and the end of 3rd…kobe to shaq…that was rather awesome game too.

by Joey Joe on Sep 6, 2011 11:50 AM PDT reply actions  

Best moments

-Dodgers World Series in 1981 and 1988, especially the Gibby dinger. In 1981, my favorite player (Guerrero), my girlfriend’s favorite (Cey) and her best friend’s favorite (Yeager) were the three co-MVPs of the Series, plus I hated the goddamn Yankers

-Lakers championships in 1972, 1980, 1985, and 2010; especially 1985 and 2010, because I hate the fucking Celtics

-Borg over McEnroe, Wimbledon 1980…Bjorn Baby was my favorite player of all time

by The Dude Abides on Sep 6, 2011 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Best moment – Gibson
Worst moment – When the clock struck 0:00 in the 2006 Rose Bowl. Texas 41, USC 38
Best individual game – the 2006 Rose Bowl

by Eric Stephen on Sep 6, 2011 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

if the 2006 Rose Bowl is the worst you’ve felt as a fan, you’ve led a charmed life.

@RB_GScott

by G.Scott on Sep 6, 2011 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Best moment – 2009 Big Game
Worst moment – Aaron Rogers’ pass being one foot off
Best individual game – anything DeSean Jackson did

by Josie Becker on Sep 6, 2011 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

You take school spirit to a whole new nauseating level :)

@RB_GScott

by G.Scott on Sep 6, 2011 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I will

add that one the best individual player performances I ever saw was Maurice Jones-Drew scoring 5 touchdowns to beat Cal in 2005.

by bhsportsguy on Sep 6, 2011 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I saw your Laker-Blazer game 7 in person, it has to be the greatest game I’ve ever seen. Not sure I’ll ever have that feeling leaving a sporting event ever again.

Ferragamo to Waddy to beat Dallas my favorite football moment on TV

Magic and Lakers game championship game against the 76’ers in his rookie year my favorite basketball moment on TV

Favorite Soccer moment – when that Indian chick was allowed to play by her dad and teamed up with the British white chick to kick ass.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 6, 2011 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Worst moment

1986 Game 5 ALCS – really wanted that one for Bobby Grich and for my cousin and other Angel fans, I think I became somewhat less fanatical about sports after that game.

Best – too many really, fortunate. The three moments where I was at the game that stand out in the last 5 years:

1. 4+1 (and I have a new take fan post brewing about that one)
2. Game 2 2009 NLDS – A lonely eye looks toward Mark Loretta
3. UCLA beating USC on the Eric McNeal pick in 2006. Nice to bookend a bad year for USC at the Rose Bowl.

by bhsportsguy on Sep 6, 2011 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

That reminds me the best football game I saw in person was the Rose Bowl victory over number one rated Ohio State with Wendell Tyler doing the good work.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 6, 2011 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I recall us being deliriously happy after Hamilton played that ball of his gonads

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 6, 2011 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Best moment- Barcelona’s very first CL title

Worst moment- Lakers losing in ’04

Best individual game- Rose Bowl ’06

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by Paul Udani on Sep 6, 2011 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Best –
1977 come back against the Phillies is the most memorable (Vic Davillio!) but best has to be 1981 Dodger team. It felt so good against the Yankees. Or Magic’s baby sky hook – I went out of my mind on that one. All the best was when I was young…Though when the Steelers beat Detroit for the Superbowl I cried tears of relief and joy

Worst
Hmm – 1978 Reggie Jackson’s hip and the evaporation of a 2 – 0 lead. Last years superbowl to see that in person. Lakers losing to the celtics

Best game – has to be Magic’s baby hook

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 6, 2011 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

If I had not watched Magic’s rookie season, his baby hook would own the board.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 6, 2011 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Best moment – 2008 Dodgers beat Cubs in Game 3. Never saw them win a playoff series ever until that night in person.

Worst moment – 2008 Lakers lose Game 4 to Celtics, close second was NLCS Game 4 2008 and 2009. Rollins’ gapper pretty much has numbed me to sport disappointments. That Lakers loss put me in a state of shock for two days.

Best individual game – 2006 Maddux vs. Schmidt on ESPN. Martin ends game on walk off HR. Saw game in person. Incredible game. 2009 NLDS Game 2 was the best ending but this was the best game.

by Alex41592 on Sep 6, 2011 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Worst – Not being able to enjoy the 2008 win because my friends bailed on me forcing me to eat a tray of potato skins and a pitcher of beer myself and wanting to die afterwards instead of celebrate.

Best – The Lima game.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Sep 6, 2011 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Next time we meet up, we’ll have to review what “worst” means. :)

@RB_GScott

by G.Scott on Sep 6, 2011 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

“All right we won. Welp gonna leave to go lie on the couch for the next four hours.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Sep 6, 2011 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

“hold my calls”

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 6, 2011 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

the beer was probably no problem, the potato skins…ha, don’t eat em all!

@RB_GScott

by G.Scott on Sep 6, 2011 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

You try having nothing at your table but a tray of skins and see what happens.

And yeah I have an incredibly low tolerance for junk food so it was totally the skins.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Sep 6, 2011 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I haven’t learned much but I have learned one thing, you don’t have to eat food just because it is available.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 6, 2011 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

sage

not the food, the advice

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 6, 2011 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

/I’llhavetheBrewerPlate

Tony P’s was fun, btw. Good quesadilla. Delirium Tremens was new and exciting.

@RB_GScott

by G.Scott on Sep 6, 2011 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

There was no carbs or anything deep fried, if anything that’s health food. Definitely need to do it again.

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by regfairfield on Sep 6, 2011 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

fried food angers the blood

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 6, 2011 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

ha, i threw chicken in with mozzarella and sour cream and told em to put it inside a fried tortilla. You had a plate of sausages and cheese and we drank fermented wheat. I guess Bloody Mary’s count as health food :)

@RB_GScott

by G.Scott on Sep 6, 2011 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not one, not two, but three kinds of veggies.

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by regfairfield on Sep 6, 2011 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

olive, celery, vodka?

@RB_GScott

by G.Scott on Sep 6, 2011 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

LIMA

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 6, 2011 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Lima Game was so good.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 6, 2011 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

it was really was

I was at the game where they announced he had passed away, I had tears in my eyes.

I remembered being at a game not too long before that where Lima was in the crowd and they had a video tribute to him.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 6, 2011 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I remember watching that 2006 ESPN game at a bar here, that was fun…1-0, Martin off Vinnie Chulk!

Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.

by Pure Azure on Sep 6, 2011 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

best and worst

are both 2009 for me

Best: Holliday nut catch game, because I was there, and it was the most electric game I’d ever been too.

Worst: Watching Rollins hit that double off of Broxton that all but sealed the Dodgers fate.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 6, 2011 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Most electric game absolutely

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Sep 6, 2011 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Best Moments

- Mark Loretta walk off single Game 2 NLDS 2009
- Steve Finley Grand Slam to clinch division
- Packers handling the Steelers in the Super Bowl
- Kershaw CG 2011 Home start against the Angels that the Dodgers tied up and then won for Kershaw in the bottom of the 9th, I was also there with my best friend (Angel fan) :)

Worst Moments

- Game 4 and 5 2008 and 2009 NLCS’s
- Arizona losing to Pitt in the 2009 Super Bowl, I REALLY wanted Pitt to lose.
- The game against NY up 4 in the 9th that started Broxton’s demise
- USC losing to Texas in the Rose Bowl, despite how amazing the game was.

There were a bunch of great games with walk-offs from Kemp or from Ethier or Kershaw throwing a brilliant game, as well as stinging losses like the Braves on Sunday or games like that, but these are the ones that have stood out.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Sep 6, 2011 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

One of these is not like the others:)

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 6, 2011 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

My guess

The Cards/Steelers game or Packers/Steelers game. Hmm….lol

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Sep 6, 2011 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd like to add

Game’s 3 of the NLDS and NLCS in 2008, both Kuroda starts, both I attended, both wins.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Sep 6, 2011 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Best: Seahawks upset over the Saints this playoffs, That one was pretty sweet after every single expert was mocking us.
Worst: Chile 4 Peru 0 1998 WC Qualifiers, I was just 7 i still can remember how miserable everyone that went to my house to watch the game was after it, to lose the WC berth to Chile of all countries. the closest we have been to a WC in the last 30 years.

by XXDC2XX on Sep 6, 2011 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Best — easily the Game 7 against the Blazers, not only was it a wild comeback when a historic season seemed doomed, but it was the first time a team I rooted for was going to win a championship ( I was cautiously optimistic the Pacers would just be easy prey and the Finals anti-climactic, I was right).

Worst — 2009 Rollins, Broxton, it’s all been said. I was just happy to be there in 2008, especially happy that I watched Game 3 of the NLDS in a bar surrounded by shocked Cubs fans who thought their year had finally come. I remember one lady afterward said, “the Dodgers came out of nowhere!”…but 2009 was the year I had expectations of finally getting to a WS, I figured the Dodgers would have the odds on their side for the second straight NLCS with Philly. The fact that my family roots for the Phillies made it marginally worse.

Best game — Italy over Germany in Berlin, 2006 WC semis, Grosso and Del Piero with two magical goals in overtime to sink the home side. I was running around that restaurant like a madman.

Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.

by Pure Azure on Sep 6, 2011 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Italy over Germany in Berlin, 2006 WC semis

Forza Azzurri!

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 6, 2011 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's incredibly interesting
And while Doc does win the WAR argument with FanGraphs …

6. Matt Kemp(notes) absolutely trounces him with B-Ref WAR, 8.5 to 6.3, which illustrates the problem with counting on WAR strictly for MVP voting as opposed to using it as just another piece when putting together a ballot.

The 26-year-old Kemp is the NL Bautista, putting up a monster season for a mediocre team. He plays center field (not all that well, but still), runs with aplomb and is a fearsome hitter. Plenty more time could be spend espousing his virtues; instead, do yourself a favor and take a look at what Tim Brown wrote. He lays out an intelligent case for Kemp over …

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Sep 6, 2011 11:54 AM PDT reply actions  

you bolded the wrong part of that sentence

@RB_GScott

by G.Scott on Sep 6, 2011 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not for the point I wanted to make

Which is damn who knew rWAR had Kemp so beast!

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Sep 6, 2011 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

my only point was that the second half of the sentence was more important.

@RB_GScott

by G.Scott on Sep 6, 2011 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I understood your point

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Sep 6, 2011 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Extreme hypothetical

MLB rules to qualify for the Rookie of the Year award says a player qualifies if they have less than 130 at bats, 50 innings pitched or 45 days on the active roster of a Major League club (excluding time in military service or on the disabled list) before September 1.

Let’s say a player is called up July 20th or so, spends 40 days on the MLB roster before 9/1 then continues to play in September. Over those 60 games, he hits 22 homers, .392/.457/.744 and wins the ROY. The following year, is he eligible to win Rookie of the Year again?

@RB_GScott

by G.Scott on Sep 6, 2011 11:55 AM PDT reply actions  

Interesting question. While seemingly technically eligible, I would have to think the Super McCovey would be ineligible once he won the award.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 6, 2011 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

just used Ethier’s first 33 games of 2010 slash line, doubled the homer total. My assumption is that even if eligible, and even if worthy, it’d be awarded to someone else.

@RB_GScott

by G.Scott on Sep 6, 2011 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

it is hard to imagine

some one playing 50-60 games and not surpassing 130 AB

by bhsportsguy on Sep 6, 2011 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don’t ruin the term Super McCovey

by Eric Stephen on Sep 6, 2011 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don’t ruin the term Super McCovey

by Eric Stephen on Sep 6, 2011 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

130 AB before 9/1, so roughly 35 games. Totally plausible.

@RB_GScott

by G.Scott on Sep 6, 2011 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nope

The 130 AB and 50 IP are for the season.

The 45 days of service time are the only thing for which September 1 matters

by Eric Stephen on Sep 6, 2011 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

“for the season” is not right; I meant total accumulated in career to that point. But all numbers throughout all seasons count.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 6, 2011 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

so they’d have to be called up in September, go apeshit, and lead a team to the playoffs. Still plausible depending on the field that year, so my curiosity remains.

@RB_GScott

by G.Scott on Sep 6, 2011 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

They would have to break the single month home run record, so if they won it, sure they should be able to win it again, because they deserve it.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Sep 6, 2011 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Finally, Arash Markazi is useful. He tweets that Eddie Murphy will host the 2012 Oscars.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 6, 2011 11:58 AM PDT reply actions  

I’d watch if it was Eddie Murray

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 6, 2011 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Red leather suit

and swearing, yes. Otherwise, no.

by bhsportsguy on Sep 6, 2011 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

not the purple one? :)

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 6, 2011 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did anyone draft David Garrard?

per Jay Glazer:

I’m reporting the Jaguars today have informed starting QB David Garrard they are releasing him! Luke McKown will start opener! Shocker!!!

by Eric Stephen on Sep 6, 2011 12:03 PM PDT reply actions  

Dre did it.

@RB_GScott

by G.Scott on Sep 6, 2011 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

as a Jags fan...

no surprise on my end. No way were they going to keep him for 9MM when McCown offers pretty much everything Garrard does at this point, and they have Gabbert who will start soon.

@foryourhandicap

by uclatroy on Sep 6, 2011 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Someone in my FFB league added Garrard last night after our draft because his auto draft picked someone even worse as his backup

not sure what he should do now except pick McCown I guess. For now.

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by underdog on Sep 6, 2011 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m out of the football loop, who is this McCown?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 6, 2011 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I had my hopes up that it was Cade McNown

@RB_GScott

by G.Scott on Sep 6, 2011 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Me to

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 6, 2011 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

What a horrible disappointment he was as a pro...

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Sep 6, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Luke...

he’s been their backup, had a shot last year to takeover when Garrard got hurt, but he tore his ACL. Has been the most impressive qb on the Jags this training camp/preseason.

@foryourhandicap

by uclatroy on Sep 6, 2011 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not certain McCown will start, though.

The Jags are holding a press conference with Del Rio, their GM Gene Smith, and Gabbert. That could mean something.

@foryourhandicap

by uclatroy on Sep 6, 2011 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Up at the state capitol in New Mexico. All of us journalists entered a pool to see how long it lasts.

All of us are pessimists and expect it to go more than 20 days (can’t go longer than 30 days).

by fbihop on Sep 6, 2011 12:04 PM PDT reply actions  

?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 6, 2011 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I took it to mean 20 days until we figure out what the hell that comment meant.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 6, 2011 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry. It’s one day in and I’m already losing it.

by fbihop on Sep 6, 2011 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

still don’t know what you mean. Is the State Capitol not going to survive the month?

@RB_GScott

by G.Scott on Sep 6, 2011 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

my guess is some sort of budget related thing.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 6, 2011 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

x

We are having a special session to do redistricting. The governor added a lot of other stuff the special session as well (the governor decides what topics can be discussed at special sessions).

The reason we need a special session in New Mexico for redistricting is because our state legislature meets before the census data comes back, and its required in the U.S. Constitution that all districts are made as equal as possible every ten years (Congressional districts, state House and state Senate districts, some other commissions).

Special sessions cannot go longer than 30 days, by statute. All the journalists have a pool on how long the session is going to go, and most are thinking about three weeks.

The two most veteran reporters, however, chose the shortest time. They probably know something I don’t.

by fbihop on Sep 6, 2011 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry if this was linked/posted before

Story

Los Angeles Dodgers Post $3.9 Million Net Profit in July

The Los Angeles Dodgers baseball club reported a $3.9 million consolidated net profit in July at the holding company level, on total revenue of $41.6 million. Ticket revenue at the holding company was $15.75 million, the monthly operating report revealed.

During the month, bankruptcy expenses were $2.5 million, with interest expense totaling $3 million.

For June and July together, the consolidated net loss at the holding company level was $310,000 on total revenue of $80.1 million.

by bhsportsguy on Sep 6, 2011 12:13 PM PDT reply actions  

If only Net Profit equated to cash flow.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 6, 2011 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Soccer fans can keep Josie company (and me occasionally)

in the USA vs Belgium game thread
http://www.lagconfidential.com/2011/9/6/2408190/usa-vs-belgium-open-thread-lineups-news#76551842

good one so far

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Sep 6, 2011 12:15 PM PDT reply actions  

Lookouts Facebook
Chattanooga Lookouts Fan Page
Just found out the pitching probables for the first three games of the playoffs between Tennessee and Chattanooga:

Thursday: RHP Stephen Fife vs. LHP Brooks Raley
Friday: RHP Chris Withrow vs. RHP Ryan Searle
Saturday: RHP Allen Webster vs. RHP Trey McNutt

@RB_GScott

by G.Scott on Sep 6, 2011 12:27 PM PDT reply actions  

WGT

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 6, 2011 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Probably

none of the Smokies’ starters are particularly impressive.

@RB_GScott

by G.Scott on Sep 6, 2011 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

what is the scheduled start time? 4?

@RB_GScott

by G.Scott on Sep 6, 2011 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

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