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Dodgers Await Stephen Strasburg, Weather Permitting

Rain appears to be the winner of Tuesday's scheduled game between the Dodgers and Nationals, but just in case the game gets in...

The phenomenon that was Stephen Strasburg in 2010 seemed headed for an August start at Dodger Stadium, though those plans were scrapped when he hit the disabled list. Once he returned, Strasburg made three more starts before walking off the mound with elbow pain on August 21 in Philadelphia.

Less than 13 months later, with Tommy John surgery now behind him, Strasburg is set to return to a major league mound tonight in Washington DC. For a very detailed account of Tommy John surgery and Strasburg's path back to the majors, be sure to read Nathan Fenno's story today in the Washington Post.

Strasburg pitched in six rehab games in the minors, striking out 29 against just three walks in 20 innings. He is scheduled to pitch four innings or throw about 60 pitches tonight, provided the game doesn't get delayed.

Ted Lilly gets the start for the Dodgers, hoping his 2.35 ERA in six August starts will translate to September. Lilly walked 12 and struck out 31 in 38 innings last month, but what was most unusual was that eight of those walks have come in the last three starts. After 37 starts as a Dodger without ever walking more than two batters, Lilly walked three on August 20 and four more on August 31.

A decision on whether or not the game will be postponed won't be made until game time, per MASN, so now we wait.

Lineups

Dodgers Nationals
SS Gordon SS Desmond
1B Loney CF Werth
CF Kemp 3B Zimmerman
LF Rivera LF Morse
RF Ethier RF Gomes
3B Miles 2B Espinosa
C Barajas 1B Marrero
2B Sellers C Ramos
P Lilly P Strasburg

Game Time: 4:05 p.m.

TV: KCAL

MLB Gameday

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Morse / Werth / Zimmerman / Gomes / Espinosa

Have to figure at least two jacks from that group tonight.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 6, 2011 2:06 PM PDT reply actions  

The Lilly 30/30 post is set to go! :)

Though I think we get rain tonight instead.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 6, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Raining home runs

@RB_GScott

by G.Scott on Sep 6, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sucks to only have 25 to bet on the prop bet

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 6, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but I think I should get 50 to bet tomorrow since it’s a double header :)

@RB_GScott

by G.Scott on Sep 6, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jack Shit

and Little Jack Shit

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Sep 6, 2011 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Best on line traffic school? My old bookmark is gone so I have no idea who I used before.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 6, 2011 2:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Yes.

Seriously, Google Online Traffic School, and don’t pay for anything over 30 bucks. Check with the local court house first to make sure they accept that school’s certificate.

@RB_GScott

by G.Scott on Sep 6, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 6, 2011 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was able to do an online one and finish it in a few hours

it was awesome

by Hollywood Joe on Sep 6, 2011 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

yay

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 6, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

$400 ticket, hidden $30 fee?

@RB_GScott

by G.Scott on Sep 6, 2011 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

it was(or so I was told and believe)

supposed to be a huge inconvenience, in order to make you not want to have to go back. Now you can sit at home, watch a movie and knock it out in a few hours instead of a whole day. Whats the point?

by nolander on Sep 6, 2011 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because everyone should be allowed one ticket per year and using this system we get that without having our insurance penalize us. It is a win win for everyone.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 6, 2011 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

They only let the light offenders go, if you are Madman Mark you don’t get to go.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 6, 2011 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

local court house should have a list online of who they accept, and in fact when I got my last speeding ticket in friggin Los Banos, the court sent me a booklet with all the online traffic schools they recommend and which they accept.

@RB_GScott

by G.Scott on Sep 6, 2011 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

so if the court sent you a list

guess that’s the best place to look.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 6, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sure but they have about 50, so I was curious which one’s people have already done. Google does not appear on the list.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 6, 2011 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah

i have a list like that.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 6, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

the site sends your completion certificate to the court correct? Or do you have to print it out and do it yourself?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 6, 2011 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

They have to fax it within eight hours of you completing the process.
I’m using www.lastminutetrafficschool.com for 22.99 right now

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 6, 2011 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

so the responsibility

is on their end, is what I’m asking.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 6, 2011 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

sorry, confused

they fax it to you, or to the court?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 6, 2011 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 6, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

They must fax it, you must make sure the court has received it.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 6, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

and you just call the courthouse for that

I’m guessing?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 6, 2011 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, though you should get a confirmation e-mail from both the site and the court.

@RB_GScott

by G.Scott on Sep 6, 2011 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

excellent excellent

thanks all for the info. As you can tell, this will be my first experience with online traffic school

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 6, 2011 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

less fun than jury duty, more fun than voting.

@RB_GScott

by G.Scott on Sep 6, 2011 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

jury duty

sucked

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 6, 2011 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jury Duty is only fun when you get on the selection panel and claim you just watch law and order all day long.

by Tripon on Sep 6, 2011 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Wait, I like Flaw and Odor, always good for a laugh.

by Grimjack on Sep 6, 2011 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh i see now

I meant that you should google “Online traffic school” not that there was a Google Online Traffice School. That’s my bad. Stupid punctuation.
http://abctrafficschool.com/ was a good one though

@RB_GScott

by G.Scott on Sep 6, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

There was one I used before that would tell you the answers before they posted the question, or you could just google the question to get the answer. It had a time limit of about 3 hours or something, which I mean you had to sit through 3 hours, so its best to do something else while you’re suffering though it.

by Tripon on Sep 6, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

BCG named Southern League player of the week.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 6, 2011 2:16 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

good job

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 6, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Office season 7 set came out today. Admittedly, I bought it but I’m sure it’ll be the last.

by silverwidow on Sep 6, 2011 2:20 PM PDT reply actions  

Its an okay season, but its only notable because its Carrell’s last season.

by Tripon on Sep 6, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Notable events is season 7: Carrell leaves
Notable events seasons 5 and 6: Uhhhhhh

7’s a winner.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Sep 6, 2011 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I actually think this season of the Office should be better because they just can’t rely on Carrell to carry the whole show like he had to.

by Tripon on Sep 6, 2011 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would think you would find sucking notable about season 6

does your fascination with bad not translate from baseball to film?

by nolander on Sep 6, 2011 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey guys,

I just posted these tix on craigslist..

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/tix/2585328164.html

but if anyone makes me a good offer here i’ll take it :-)

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Sep 6, 2011 2:26 PM PDT reply actions  

One day too late?

Oh noes!

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Sep 6, 2011 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

go back to school on the 15th ):

by SeanMillerSavior on Sep 6, 2011 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

anyone else? Bueller?

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Sep 6, 2011 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought about it, but I am already attending two games that week, and work needs to get done in there somewhere.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 6, 2011 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks anyways Dave

Really really, if anyone wants these, I’ll practically give them to you.

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Sep 6, 2011 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Might be interested in two, let me get back to you tonight after I check my wife’s schedule. Friday Night Fireworks, free BUFFETT:)

David are you going Wednesday with us?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 6, 2011 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Great! I'll be around, let me know, I'll reserve the parking pass for you if I sell

the other two

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Sep 6, 2011 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sue and I already have four tickets for Wednesday; we’ll be above you up in Section 2.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 6, 2011 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ll be looking forward to being nailed with peanuts

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 6, 2011 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m going to do that, while singing Bennie and the Jets at the top of my lungs.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 6, 2011 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jen

You know, screw work. Sue and I would love to buy two of those tickets. Maybe Mr and Mrs Phil will ride share with us, thus we all benefit from preferred parking.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 6, 2011 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

That would be cool, I’ll let you know tonight. First day of school with teachers only, she is going to be an unhappy camper tonight when she realizes she has to spend all year with those whiny bitches.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 6, 2011 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sure guys, let me know what you want to do

I’ll make 175 for four if Phil & lady want in as well. Just have to find a meeting spot to do the exchange. :-)

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Sep 6, 2011 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t remember – are you in the SFV? Maybe Westside?


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 6, 2011 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Brett Lawrie was picked one spot after Ethan Martin. OH NOES. :)

by silverwidow on Sep 6, 2011 2:39 PM PDT reply actions  

Start earlier

dodgerthoughts
An early end to Stormageddon? RT @dylanohernandez: It has stopped raining at Nationals Park. Tarp is off the infield.

by bhsportsguy on Sep 6, 2011 2:39 PM PDT reply actions  

yay?

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Sep 6, 2011 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Considering how hot today is, I wish to get hit by hurricane Irene right now.

by Tripon on Sep 6, 2011 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

For someone who is going to be teaching children you say the most amazing things.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 6, 2011 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe this is why I can’t find a job.

by Tripon on Sep 6, 2011 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t know what it’s like today, but when I was in school, kids didn’t give a fuck when there was a sub.

by silverwidow on Sep 6, 2011 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

having a sub is basically a free day/period nowadays.

by NotJoeTorre on Sep 6, 2011 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

My peers used to treat them like shit tho. Pretty embarrassing when you think about it.

by silverwidow on Sep 6, 2011 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

it was

40 years ago too

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Sep 6, 2011 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well trained Meteorologists could be mistaken? Shocked

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 6, 2011 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

the forecast said the most likely heavy rain wouldn't be til game time though and predicted it might be okay for time before that

so, alas, they may still be right.

usually when they say “100% chance of rain” they end up being right…

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Sep 6, 2011 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Chance Gomes hits a homer off of Lilly? I’d say 80%

by Table on Sep 6, 2011 2:43 PM PDT reply actions  

Of course Dodgers should be making a conscious attempt to hit EVERYTHING to leftfield

by Table on Sep 6, 2011 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ethan Martin still has no idea where the ball is going.. sad to see that

by NotJoeTorre on Sep 6, 2011 2:44 PM PDT reply actions  

Who

Padilla in the pool?

dodgerthoughts
Vicente Padilla moved to 60-day disabled list in procedural move to make room for Tim Federowicz on 40-man roster.

by bhsportsguy on Sep 6, 2011 2:48 PM PDT reply actions  

lol

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 6, 2011 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Looking on the free agent marker for right handed bench options other than Juan Rivera?

Career numbers

Juan Rivera 6.8 BB% 12% K% .174 ISO .283 BABIP .277 .327 .451 .333 wOBA
Cody Ross 7.3 BB% 21.4 K% .194 ISO .302 BABIP .261 .323 .456 .337 wOBA
Scott Hairston 7.1 BB% 21.2 K% .193 ISO .277 BABIP .244 .303 .437 .320 wOBA
Jonny Gomes 9.7 BB% 26.6 K% .210 ISO .292 BABIP .242 .329 .452 .338 wOBA

They all mash lefties. Gomes is a no no because of his crappy D. Jerry Sands could make this comment mute.

by Table on Sep 6, 2011 2:54 PM PDT reply actions  

the similarities here struck me

by Table on Sep 6, 2011 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also Ross, Gomes, and Hairston all born in 1980

by Table on Sep 6, 2011 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think Jonny Gomes should be ignored because of defense. As the RH in the platoon, he’d only start 30% of games and pinch hit against lefties late in the game anyway, then get replaced with TGJ.

@RB_GScott

by G.Scott on Sep 6, 2011 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

well as you can see all four of those guys are about equal on offense, but because Gomes is easily the worst defender, I’d make him my 4th choice of the lot. An AL team would do well to use him in a DH platoon though.

by Table on Sep 6, 2011 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

We are fucked if that’s a good solution to LF

by NotJoeTorre on Sep 6, 2011 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Any better ideas?

@TElciram

by Taylor Maricle on Sep 6, 2011 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

You sir, have found the golden question.

@RB_GScott

by G.Scott on Sep 6, 2011 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

The only free agents that would be LF starters are

Carlos Beltran
Josh Willingham
Coco Crisp
David Dejesus

maybe Johnny Damon or Kosuke Fukudome…..maybe……..but not really

Also Oakland figures to keep at least one of those three outfielders. So the Dodgers would have win the bidding for one of only three starting free agents…..don’t really see that with the Dodger’s budget, but who knows.

by Table on Sep 6, 2011 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

damn nice. Billy Beane probably keeps him though…:(

by Table on Sep 6, 2011 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

for LF or the bench? because in LF he’s the same Jonny Gomes guy you didn’t want, and I don’t think he signs to be a bench guy.

@RB_GScott

by G.Scott on Sep 6, 2011 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Willingham is hitting that age where immobile corner outfielders tend to fall off a cliff. If you can swing him for one year somehow, great, but more than that and you’re taking a huge risk that you’re getting a below average bat, terrible defender for a long time.

Strike out rate shot way the hell up this year which is a huge warning sign to me.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Sep 6, 2011 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

While many may not be convinced of Sands is it really hard to imagine him not being better or equal to those options?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 6, 2011 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think Gerald will be any better in the near future than 2010 James Loney, but if he’s on the team, I hope he’s starting.

@RB_GScott

by G.Scott on Sep 6, 2011 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thats why I said right handed bench bat….

by Table on Sep 6, 2011 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

and he never suggested them as LF solutions. He was talking about a different role entirely.

@RB_GScott

by G.Scott on Sep 6, 2011 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

You think those guys are viable options for 300 ABs a season? I don’t and I don’t think those players do.

by NotJoeTorre on Sep 6, 2011 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hope our right handed bench bat doesn’t get 300 at bats. 100-120ish, maybe.

@RB_GScott

by G.Scott on Sep 6, 2011 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

A RH bench bat isn’t going to see the plate 300 times. Andruw Jones has like 180 PA this year, for example.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 6, 2011 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I suppose 180 is more likely than the 100-120 I said, to be sure. But 300 is still like “good side of the platoon” PT.

@RB_GScott

by G.Scott on Sep 6, 2011 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

They have a good offense.. they don’t need to use Jones that much

by NotJoeTorre on Sep 6, 2011 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

and it’s the AL.

I can’t find how many starts Andruw has had, but with 184PA in 65 games, that’s 2.83 per game played. I imagine he’s being used as more of a platoon guy than a bench guy.

@RB_GScott

by G.Scott on Sep 6, 2011 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

If the player in this role were to platoon with Tony Gwynn Jr, they would start against all lefthanders and maybe 25% of right handers. That seems like 225 ish ABs to me.

by Table on Sep 6, 2011 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah, 225-250 based on 3.1AB/game

@RB_GScott

by G.Scott on Sep 6, 2011 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you did Kyle Russell/Jonny Gomes in LF, you might be okay. I don’t know too many LH righty mashers who wouldn’t normally start on another team.

@RB_GScott

by G.Scott on Sep 6, 2011 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Willingham and Sizemore look like the only decent pick ups.

by NotJoeTorre on Sep 6, 2011 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Crisp is underated, and Dejesus is basically Ethier

by Table on Sep 6, 2011 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like Crisp a lot, just not in LF.

by NotJoeTorre on Sep 6, 2011 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

2011 Ethier, right? With 2011 Broxton health. Crisp has been known as a legit CF defender with occassional adequacy on offense, and we already have TGJ.

@RB_GScott

by G.Scott on Sep 6, 2011 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

2011 ethier yes. Though Dejesus is a better defender and runner, I also expect he won’t be paid as heavily as Ethier, if that’s the case they could be equal.

by Table on Sep 6, 2011 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, Crisp essentially would be taking TGJ’s place. Crisp is surely better, he’s a switch hitter with equal numbers going both ways, he would cost allot more than Gwynn though. Unless the Dodgers really want to pay for that mid sized improvement, and to take on the injury risk, I don’t see it happening.

by Table on Sep 6, 2011 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah I don’t expect him to be an option. That being said, I think a year ago I advocated for David DeJesus. If we can’t score runs, we might as well prevent them.

@RB_GScott

by G.Scott on Sep 6, 2011 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can’t see the Indians picking up that option. Hes a major injury risk, I would like to see him in LF but I doubt he would be cheap enough.

by NotJoeTorre on Sep 6, 2011 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

How much do you think he will cost? I’d sign him to a similar contract that Garland got 1yr/5M plus a couple million in incentives.

by dodgers4life on Sep 6, 2011 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

With his ceiling, and the lack of a market, I’d assume he gets 5-6 guaranteed with another 8-10 in incentives.

@RB_GScott

by G.Scott on Sep 6, 2011 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah, probably a decent sized club option for the second year. 10-12 I would think.

@RB_GScott

by G.Scott on Sep 6, 2011 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just looked at his stats, I thought he was at least mashing before getting hurt again.
That sounds a little high, I wouldn’t do it.

400 abs over 2 seasons is a big ’uh oh.

by NotJoeTorre on Sep 6, 2011 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I’d be skeptical as well, but I don’t think that’d be a stretch for someone like the Mets who could use a corner outfielder with some upside going into next season.

@RB_GScott

by G.Scott on Sep 6, 2011 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

it sucks because the obvious answer is just moving the OF around and letting Gwynn/Crisp play CF

by NotJoeTorre on Sep 6, 2011 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Missed this earlier

Fed is wearing PIAZZA’s number. Talk about messing with karma. :)

by silverwidow on Sep 6, 2011 3:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Piazza was his childhood idol…

by delias man on Sep 6, 2011 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah

and gibbons is his cousin. It works out perfect.

by delias man on Sep 6, 2011 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Eric tweeted something to the effect of “i hope he hits like Piazza” and Mike Petriello said “at least better than Gibbons”

@RB_GScott

by G.Scott on Sep 6, 2011 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I honestly think the Dodgers should just stick with their internal guys for the most part
OF
Kemp
Ethier (maybe trade him to free up Fielder cash)
Gwynn
Sands
Oeltjen
Hoffman

IF
Gordon
(if he is going to be like Juan Pierre offensively, he is going to have to do something about the K%, Pierre 5.7 K%, Gordon 16 K% so far)
Dejesus
Sellers
Mitchell
Uribe

(need to add one more IF to start at either 2nd or 3rd)

C
Ellis
TFed
(maybe Barajas)

1st is the biggest problem. If Dodgers can’t get Fielder/Pujols, they should get Pena/Lee. I’m not sold on Loney.

by Table on Sep 6, 2011 3:35 PM PDT reply actions  

Right, I said the Dodgers would need to add one more starting IF for either 2nd or 3rd. Carroll would be that. Dejesus would just be in the IF mix, probably as the first guy to get called up from AAA due to an MLB injury.

by Table on Sep 6, 2011 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Either way, we’re looking at 75 wins instead of competing unless Dre comes back strong, Lilly stops sucking, Kuroda comes back and does well, and we pull a Fielder.

@RB_GScott

by G.Scott on Sep 6, 2011 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

after seeing bits of Kuroda yesterday errr

not sure I want him back

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Sep 6, 2011 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

because he will eat up a good chunk of payroll

why not go with the set three, than EO and another random low risk high reward type

"I was a little scared he was into that Oakland thing. We swing here on 3-0." Grady Little on Andre

by JLS23 on Sep 6, 2011 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

This

While the Dodgers could get two mediocre starters, I would prefer they put the money together for one guy, then leave the 5th spot for Eovalid, Ely, Eveland, Webster, some spring training guy, etc.

by Table on Sep 6, 2011 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

There are going to be LOTS of mediocre inning eaters on the market

by Table on Sep 6, 2011 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because I remember 2010.

@RB_GScott

by G.Scott on Sep 6, 2011 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kuroda will decide whether he comes back. If he wants to, I can not imagine the Dodgers saying no.

by Table on Sep 6, 2011 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep

The ball is pretty much in his court.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 6, 2011 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

That was just one bad start after 5 months of being awesome

I’d gladly take Kuroda back next year, and likely for less than this year I’m sure.

"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"

by Ivdown on Sep 6, 2011 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

2011 Dodgers might surpass 75 wins.

Ellis/TFed could improve upon Barajs/Navarro by a win or two.
A power rebound from Ethier could add multiple wins.
Furcal/Gordon have made SS terrible, I expect some improvement there.

80 some wins seems with in reach even with minimal signings/trades

by Table on Sep 6, 2011 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pretty much have to have Kuroda back (or some good starting pitcher) IMO before we start equating 2012’s team with 2011.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 6, 2011 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hard for the catching duo to surpass Barajas

Any team with Kemp / Kershaw at their current levels should be able to win 81 games even when the GM builds a team of muppets.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 6, 2011 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Would you trade Kemp for McCutchen?

@RB_GScott

by G.Scott on Sep 6, 2011 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would

seriously consider it

by nolander on Sep 6, 2011 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

“Hard for the catching duo to surpass Barajas”

Not really. Besides it’s not just Barajas, it’s Barajas/Navarro. Barjas has had like 285 PAs, Navarro about 200.

by Table on Sep 6, 2011 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Barajas's OPS is in the mid-.700's

That’s hard to replace with Ellis/Fed

@TElciram

by Taylor Maricle on Sep 6, 2011 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

OMG forget OPS. Barajas has a .314 wOBA which ranks him 21st of 38 MLB catchers with at least 200 PAs. Combine that with good D, and he is valuable, but not un replaceable. Besides, if you love OPS so much, Ellis is currently at .801

by Table on Sep 6, 2011 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Small sample size

Ellis isn’t that good.

@TElciram

by Taylor Maricle on Sep 6, 2011 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

How good is he then?

by Table on Sep 6, 2011 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m afraid to give my honest opinion, since he’s a lurker here. :)

@RB_GScott

by G.Scott on Sep 6, 2011 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Going by OPS Barajas is at .699 for his career. I can’t see Ellis not equaling that

by Table on Sep 6, 2011 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

.734 this year

.731 last year.

Think more in that range.

@TElciram

by Taylor Maricle on Sep 6, 2011 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

REALLY?

you can’t see ellis failing to put up a .700 ops, which is above average for a catcher. REALLY?

by nolander on Sep 6, 2011 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pardon my OPS

.600-.700ish, OBP heavy. Which is pretty good for a catcher, but Barajas has had a good year for us. TFed i see in the same range but lower and less OBP heavy.

@TElciram

by Taylor Maricle on Sep 6, 2011 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

AJ Ellis is a beast. We love you AJ ;)

by Rihanna's Ex-Boyfriend on Sep 6, 2011 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

And i never said he wasn't replaceable

Just that Fed and Ellis won’t do the trick.

@TElciram

by Taylor Maricle on Sep 6, 2011 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

personally I would bring back Barajas to pair with Ellis. However they are saying the Dodgers are considering saving money by going with Ellis/TFed. I’m OK with that. It would still outplay Barajas/Navarro.

by Table on Sep 6, 2011 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know you’re weighing Navarro heavily here, but you’re talking about Ellis like he’s not the guy who just slugged .418 in the PCL.

@RB_GScott

by G.Scott on Sep 6, 2011 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

right but with a OBP over .450
 
I’m projecting the players to be something like this:

Barajas .238 .285 .415 .699 OPS .299 wOBA
Ellis .265 .363 .330 .693 OPS .315 wOBA

Navarro .193 .276 .324 .600 OPS .261 wOBA

TFed .245 .300 .360 .660 OPS .295 wOBA (estimate)

What am I missing?

by Table on Sep 6, 2011 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

nail, meet head.

@RB_GScott

by G.Scott on Sep 6, 2011 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

his carreer numbers are better than that, his minor league eqas are better than that, and his current season line is far better than that. Yur just hatin.

by Table on Sep 6, 2011 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

TFed

will get the opportunity to end the speculation.
Can he hit as much as Ellis?

by 68elcamino427 on Sep 6, 2011 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

more SLG

less OBP

by Table on Sep 6, 2011 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

They all suck. So who cares.

@RB_GScott

by G.Scott on Sep 6, 2011 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I said the Dodgers could expect a catching improvement by combining two of Barajas/Ellis/TFed simply due to the absence of Navarro, yet people argued. Simple statement turned into argument, I don’t understand.

by Table on Sep 6, 2011 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

no you didn't

you said

Ellis/TFed could improve upon Barajs/Navarro by a win or two.

You said two minor leaguers with AA/AAA experience (and not very good at either of those levels themselves) would outperform a guy who is putting up MLB league average offense from the catcher position and some slouch who should’ve been cut months ago. Saying Barajas/Ellis > Barajas/Navarro would’ve been greeted with nothing but a shrug and modest agreement.

@RB_GScott

by G.Scott on Sep 6, 2011 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

To me
Ellis is better than Barajas
TFed had dam well better be and upgrade on Navarro

I never ruled out Barajas.

Overall the point is that the Dodgers could (without Navarro) see improvement out of the catching.

by Table on Sep 6, 2011 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

But a win or two is a lot.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 6, 2011 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

maybe not “who cares”, but “it won’t matter anyway”. Probably arguing a swing from a .700 OPS to a .650 OPS on a team where that might be the 4th best hitter.

@RB_GScott

by G.Scott on Sep 6, 2011 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

it is also Fed/Ellis not McCann.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 6, 2011 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Might as well be McCain

@RB_GScott

by G.Scott on Sep 6, 2011 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

What part of not being Navarro don’t you understand?

by Table on Sep 6, 2011 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

this is a dark path you tread

just walk away, walk away and nobody has to die

by nolander on Sep 6, 2011 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Probably the part where he only got 1/3 of the catcher at bats in 2011

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 6, 2011 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

So Navarro gets 33% and means nothing

while Barjas gets 50% and does, I dont get it

by Table on Sep 6, 2011 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

In July/August they have been golden

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 6, 2011 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

i don’t understand how this fits in

by Table on Sep 6, 2011 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is the guy who throws the fish at least left handed?

by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Sep 6, 2011 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Multiple reporters have tweeted that Strasburg is walking to the bullpen to warmup and the tarp is coming off the field.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 6, 2011 3:40 PM PDT reply actions  

It’s a tarp!

by kinbote on Sep 6, 2011 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

i really wanted to watch soccer instead of this tonight

by delias man on Sep 6, 2011 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

There is medicine for that.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 6, 2011 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

A DH tomorrow was just more convenient for me. thats all. I will watch the baseball game.

by delias man on Sep 6, 2011 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Might still get your wish

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 6, 2011 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tonight’s game is going to take until 2am ET to finish.

@RB_GScott

by G.Scott on Sep 6, 2011 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's Washington

that should be tarp money is coming off the field

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Sep 6, 2011 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

How do you tell your boss that the metric she has you keeping is a best guess at best because her process and the lack of cooperation from the rest of her staff has left the data compromised to an unknown degree?

@RB_GScott

by G.Scott on Sep 6, 2011 3:47 PM PDT reply actions  

Hi , I was looking at these figures and it seems to me that they may not be accurate because of <reason 1,2,3>. What do you think?

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Sep 6, 2011 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Last time I tried that, you know, the truth, she told me I should work harder.

@RB_GScott

by G.Scott on Sep 6, 2011 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Then, at least you tried. and you can have a clear conscience.

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Sep 6, 2011 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ll give it a go.

@RB_GScott

by G.Scott on Sep 6, 2011 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

How pointy are her hair horns?


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Sep 6, 2011 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Although I would have went with Rita from Working Daze

by Grimjack on Sep 6, 2011 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Are you suggesting an intelligent business conversation?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 6, 2011 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

You'd be surprised

how often it works if you instigate it.

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Sep 6, 2011 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Evidently I’ve been lucky in that most of my corporate work has been with intelligent co-workers where discourse on touchy subjects is not evaded.

Elementary teachers on the other hand…………………

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 6, 2011 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also

did you get my email the other day?

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Sep 6, 2011 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I did, thank you very much. Some excellent suggestions in there.

@RB_GScott

by G.Scott on Sep 6, 2011 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

if he’s healthy, I think what he got paid is fine.

@RB_GScott

by G.Scott on Sep 6, 2011 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

yes

but his health is a concern, so I meant taking that into account.

by nolander on Sep 6, 2011 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

If he re-signs, it should be for less than $2 million IMO. If negotiations trend higher, the Dodgers should walk away.

by Eric Stephen on Sep 6, 2011 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly, same as I would have done last year.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 6, 2011 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did Ned ever gave a reason why he overpaid for Barajas last yar?

by Tripon on Sep 6, 2011 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Would you believe in only 289PA, he’s got 1.2WAR in the bank, and only .3dWAR lower than Jeff Mathis, though I know catcher dWAR is a little sketchy.

@RB_GScott

by G.Scott on Sep 6, 2011 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m sick of his garbage OBP. I don’t want him back.

by silverwidow on Sep 6, 2011 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not sure how much I want a slow slow catcher on the base paths anyway, I’m perfectly fine with his Molina approach, swing hard or sit down.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 6, 2011 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

The good thing for me

is that if Lilly pitches today, it makes the chances of the rotation staying on schedule that much better

by bhsportsguy on Sep 6, 2011 3:55 PM PDT reply actions  

Otherwise

you totally lied to us

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 6, 2011 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

mislead

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 6, 2011 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

bamboozled (favorite word)

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 6, 2011 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hoodwinked

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Sep 6, 2011 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Always like the rain because it leads to a live open.

by Alex41592 on Sep 6, 2011 4:01 PM PDT reply actions  

I’m OK with a 3-hour rain delay tonight

by Eric Stephen on Sep 6, 2011 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Could happen. Weather report gives better chance of a break around 10 EST.

Maybe they’ll get game off and then have long delay which knocks Strasburg out early.

Of course we’d be replacing Lilly with Ely, which trust me, is still a downgrade.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Sep 6, 2011 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

What is a “live open”?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Sep 6, 2011 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

non-taped introduction by the broadcaster(s)

by Eric Stephen on Sep 6, 2011 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

The top of the show is always taped (normally two hours ahead of time). But, because of the rain they have to do it live.

by Alex41592 on Sep 6, 2011 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

“fuck it we’ll do it live”

by delias man on Sep 6, 2011 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Alex

is tossing out broadcast terms.

by bhsportsguy on Sep 6, 2011 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rick Monday is obsessed with the fact that Strasburg was still warming up in the bullpen, which delayed the (planned 4:05) start of the game.

“Strasburg doesn’t realize he’s late to his own dance.”

by Eric Stephen on Sep 6, 2011 4:06 PM PDT reply actions  

Apparently per Charley

there would not be room for any bloggers tonight in the press box

by bhsportsguy on Sep 6, 2011 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

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