Broken Leg, Broken Dreams: Ivan DeJesus Not In Dodgers' Plans
by Eric Stephen on Sep 7, 2011 11:30 AM PDT
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When the Dodgers announced their promotions from Triple A on Tuesday, one day after the season ended for the Albuquerque Isotopes, the three players called up -- Jerry Sands, Tim Federowicz, and John Ely -- were not a surprise. What was a bit perplexing was that Ivan DeJesus was not recalled as well.
DeJesus is already on the 40-man roster, which makes calling him up to the big leagues for the final three weeks very easy, at least from a procedural standpoint. No extra moves are required, and DeJesus wouldn't be taking the roster spot of another player. DeJesus wasn't particularly impressive in his three previous stints with the big club this season, with six singles in 32 at-bats, but the 24-year old DeJesus has as much claim to a roster spot as 29-year old Eugenio Velez (0-for-31) or 26-year old Russ Mitchell (5-for-32 with a double and a home run).
In 2010, DeJesus was also on the 40-man roster and get skipped over for a September cup of coffee, for what was a reported attitude problem. "Everybody makes mistakes," DeJesus told Dylan Hernandez of the LA Times in March. "I learned from the mistakes I made. Now, I'm a new player."
DeJesus the old player was definitely a prospect. He was rated as the sixth best prospect in the Dodgers' farm system heading into 2009 by Baseball America, which praised his advanced approach and his ability to use the whole field. But the calling card for DeJesus was his plate discipline.
- As a 19-year old in low Class A, he walked in 11.2% of his plate appearances.
- As a 20-year old in advanced Class A, he walked in 11.4% of his plate appearances
- As a 21-year old in Double A, he walked in 13.6% of his plate appearances
Everything changed on March 2, 2009, when DeJesus broke his left leg on an awkward slide into home plate in a "B" game in spring training at Camelback Ranch. He missed nearly all of 2009, but came back in 2010. The problem was the plate discipline for DeJesus was gone. Last season at Triple A, he walked in just 5.5% of his plate appearances.
This season, it was more of the same for DeJesus. In addition to his two walks in 35 at-bats with the Dodgers, DeJesus had just 16 walks in 245 plate appearances over 57 games in Triple A through July 21, just 6.5% of his plate appearances. However, as the season wore on DeJesus showed improvement with 29 walks in his final 43 games, walking in 14.6% of his plate appearances during that span, showing glimpses of his prior days as a viable prospect. DeJesus even hit six of his eight home runs this season in a 16-game span in mid-August.
Whether it was for attitude, or performance, or both, DeJesus did not get the call. Again. If the Dodgers thought anything of DeJesus, he would be up with the big league team. It appears his days in the Dodger organization are numbered, which is a shame.
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New thread - old question
The only reason I did not ask the question re most games for a LA Dodger since 1958
I did not know if anyone would come up with Ted Sizemore without a lot of hints.
But a new question, since the first major expansion (1961), name the first year player who played in the most games. And no, it is not Albert Pujols who played in 161 games in his first season in 2001.
But the hint is that it did come after the DH rule was in place.
by bhsportsguy on Sep 7, 2011 11:28 AM PDT reply actions
Seriously?
I did not know if anyone would come up with Ted Sizemore without a lot of hints.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Sep 7, 2011 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Okay
not anyone who had a Ted Sizemore glove (I think I had a Ted Sizemore glove).
by bhsportsguy on Sep 7, 2011 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions
My guess was Eddie Murray in 1977, but mostly because I wanted to bring up Eddie Murray.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 7, 2011 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions
I think its cool that he is hosting the oscars this year
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 7, 2011 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Eddie
Murray, 160 games in his rookie (first year).
the winner with 163 games played – Hideki Matsui in 2003.
I object on the same rules these guys have no business being included in the ROY vote. They play in professional baseball leagues and to allow them to be treated as rookies in an afront to Japanese Baseball. JMO
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Yeah
I thought about that.
Then the answer is 162 games by George “Boomer” Scott, Jake Wood, second baseman for Detroit and Los Angeles Angel, Booby Knoop.
How many people is that altogether (tied at 162?), and which one was second baseman for Detroit and a Los Angeles Angel?
How can someone hate on Chipper Jones?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
if someone hates Paul Newman, you can hate Chipper Jones
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 7, 2011 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Fox doesn’t recognize LA as a Chargers secondary market. And the broadcast falls to Fox because they get any game where an NFC team is the road team.
by Josie Becker on Sep 7, 2011 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Fox has NFC road + NFC vs NFC
CBS has the opposite
I do not know why this is – has always bugged me
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 7, 2011 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions
allegemally, it’s to ensure that Fox and CBS get to broadcast from every NFL stadium/market during the year
by Josie Becker on Sep 7, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
If you have the road teams, it ensures you can cover all teams.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 7, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
I said it firstest, and with a made up word!
by Josie Becker on Sep 7, 2011 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions
The Language Queen
has gone mad with power.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 7, 2011 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Let's see if "Tommy" gets this reference
“Decembuary eleventh, we set out on expilition to the North”
by Josie Becker on Sep 7, 2011 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
search for Santa
only find Angelinook
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 7, 2011 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
;-)
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 7, 2011 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions
There just seems like no room for him
they want miles or carrol playing every day, and with sellers and gordon and mitchell(who can play 3rd and catcher(lol)) there just wouldn’t be any playing time for him.
Why do they want Miles or Carroll playing everyday?
That seems completely unnecessary to even state as a goal.
by Michael White on Sep 7, 2011 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Its not what I want
its what donnie or ned or both want. Whether its a good thing or not, kits happening.
Ya, i know that’s not your call. I’m wondering why the Dodgers have such a goal at this point of this season?
by Michael White on Sep 7, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
This time of year is always full of contradictory logic
The old school mentality will always lead to the out of contention team to field as close to a “competitive” lineup as they can against teams still in the race (at least in their minds). In other words, they won’t play all the young guys, at least not all at once.
But if you look at it another way, the Dodgers have committed to Dee Gordon as their shortstop of the future, and really present, so that is seen as OK as he starts all the time, no matter how raw he may be.
But it will be interesting how often Sellers and Sands play against the Giants and D-Backs. Both could really Gordon Corollary their way into playing every day (especially Sands) but we’ll see.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 7, 2011 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
But my larger point wasn’t necessarily that DeJesus is any good, but that he has at least shown signs of improvement this season.
He is not playing anywhere now, since ABQ’s season is over. It’s not like calling him up takes him away from any development time in games. He’s already on the 40-man roster, so simply having him around would seem like a no-brainer, a no-cost move (other than the truly ancillary costs of paying a player for 23 days of salary plus meal money).
by Eric Stephen on Sep 7, 2011 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
but donnie likes his elbow room
and if he isn’t going to use IDJ he doesn’t want to have to bump into him in the locker room. You are probably right though, IDJ has no real future with the Dodgers, so lets get it over with and trade him.
Strasburg
then the Nats can move Espinoza to SS
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 7, 2011 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions
And that’s where we come back around to DFA’ing Velez :)
by Michael White on Sep 7, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Ned wants to see if he can keep the streak going.
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by regfairfield on Sep 7, 2011 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Unless there is an office pool for when Velez will get his first hit.
by Michael White on Sep 7, 2011 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Seems
clear that he was in the plans but then he started walking again and that goes against the Dodger mantra.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
A well timed post, thanks! Since I was part of the discussion of this obviously, in last thread
Yeah my point was also not that he’s a great prospect anymore, and they’ve seen him play but at the very LEAST he’s competent on defense and with the bat, and is already on the roster. Why they continue to snub him over Velez is a total mystery to me. As I said there, at the least he can be a sub who can spell the older guys and other young guys during this long-ass stretch (especially now that there is a DH tomorrow). The DH especially would make sense as a time to call him up, and maybe Hoffmann. I get the locker room is crowded excuse but they are both on the roster and give them a little PT to spell the others.
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Have to say it is even more surprising given how Mattingly seemed to like him after he played for him this past fall. Maybe he has the Navarro ethic? I recall that being hinted before.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Certainly possible. Which is also a shame.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 7, 2011 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah.. that's what I'm starting to wonder or assume.
Still, you’d think now would be a perfect time to give him another shot. Oh well.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
I think the Dodgers are tired with his tantrums
i know he told the ‘Topes that he was unavailble to play for 3-4 games (maybe more, i don’t rememeber the number) after he was passed up for what he felt was supposed to be his promoting ear;ier this year. Reports that i’ve heard are that the attitude problems have really changed the team’s view of him.
Thanks for that
Checking his FanGraphs game log, it looks like the time in question was at the beginning of July.
Dee Gordon was optioned back to ABQ on July 4, and the Dodgers called up Eugenio Velez.
DeJesus did not play in any of the next four games, missing July 4-7.
I didn’t find any notes about it in Chris Jackson’s game stories, not that it would necessarily get reported.
From the end of last thread
NFL Week 1 Maps
yeah i'm wondering how many peeps in my FFB leagues will space out on that fact ;-)
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when life gives you bittersweet make brownies. Well not if you’re me, but you get the idea
by Josie Becker on Sep 7, 2011 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
They are both during the work day for us….
by Michael White on Sep 7, 2011 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
Tomorrow is a great day to call in sick
Dodger double header followed by Pack v Saints
WOW
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 7, 2011 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Its going to be interesting
There will be mistakes made by the Texans D, what with it being their first real game running the 3-4, but the colts have no running game(unless their two rookies are magic) and Collins is not what he once was. Watching the Colts offense without Manning is always sad.
Doubt Kerry at your own peril.
You’ve been warned.
by Michael White on Sep 7, 2011 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Al Micheals says
Raiders won’t win a Super Bowl as long as Al Davis is alive and in charge.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 7, 2011 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
at this point
the Raiders are an Al Davis shaped coffin
by Josie Becker on Sep 7, 2011 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Did Davis go off the deep end in the recent past, because it wasn’t that long ago the Raiders were in the AFC Championship Game and more recently the Super Bowl (with Davis in charge.)
by Michael White on Sep 7, 2011 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Not sure about Tuesday, but yes I’d be interested in hearing your opinions.
by Michael White on Sep 7, 2011 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions
They got to the Super Bowl on the tail end of the Gruden years (it was the first year after he left), but Davis ultimately drove Gruden and the whole front office out, and they haven’t been able to recover since.
Simply put, the Raider job is a joke because Al Davis has too much power and has no idea how to run a modern NFL team.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 7, 2011 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions
despite the holdout and putting the Niners through the ringer, he has been gangbusters
by Josie Becker on Sep 7, 2011 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions
context!
the more you know, the more you know
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 7, 2011 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions
His QB’s shouldn’t even be NFL QB’s. That doesn’t make him any better than he actually is though.
I’m not even just basing this off of statistics. I was a huge fan of his in college so I’ve rooted for him since day one. His problem seems to be that he just disappears in any game the team isn’t competitive in. Playing in that situation can’t be easy, but I expected more from someone with his talent.
he isn't a GOAT or anything
but he is better then the guy the raiders got, and everyone except crazy al knew it.
He always threw a lot of picks. If you want a “game-manager” type than Kerry Collins is not for you.
by Michael White on Sep 7, 2011 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Cooking revelation of the day
Stumbled on this while making lunch this AM and it is so good I have to share
Mix a little bit of truffle oil in with cream cheese (or butter I am sure) to create an amazing spread for ham or turkey sandwiches
unreal flavor – totally kicks it up
BAM!
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 7, 2011 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Truffle Oil, who has truffle lying around besides you cooks?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
strangely enough there is not an embargo on truffle oil and while expensive, a tiny tiny bit goes a long way
a few things that will make your food better no matter what kind of cook you are
Good sea salt
Fresh pepper
Truffle Oil – careful with it
Anchovy paste in tootpaste tube – use it everywhere, meat rubs, salad dressing, pasta sauces, again a little goes a long way and gives a great umami base note
Tomato paste
Hot red peppers in oil
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 7, 2011 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Where do you get anchovy paste?
Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Sep 7, 2011 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Pretty sure your high-end grocers will have it…Bristol Farms, Whole Foods, etc.
Maybe even an enterprising Vons (I have seen it at some Pavilions), and I’m trying to remember if I’ve seen it at Albertson’s or not.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 7, 2011 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Awesome, thanks.
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by regfairfield on Sep 7, 2011 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Bought anchovy paste and capers for the first time ever like 6-7 years ago specifically for a Puttanesca recipe.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 7, 2011 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I would guess
any Italian Deli, on the Westside, Bay Cities in Santa Monica probably has it. Surfas in Culver City has it. Possible that Gelsons or Whole Foods too.
judiciously
used: A good chili sauce (Tabasco or equivalent).
And always have some unsalted butter
HJ probably always has Parmigiano-Reggiano too
HJ probably always has Parmigiano-Reggiano too
always – and never the pre-grated kind
actually a small selection of cheeses – hard to soft + a good selection of olives is also handy and versatile
and you are right about the unsalted butter
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 7, 2011 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
since we are fully geeking out
I also save the rinds from the parm in the freezer and when I get a bunch, I slow cook them for hours to make a stock from them
it is the cheesiest, richest, saltiest, goodest thing in the world
use it in soups, sauces, unreal
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 7, 2011 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions
it is in the rotation
I can’t wait for it to get colder – I am dying to make
Wild boar ragu
Carbonara
and a little known favorite Cacio e Pepe
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 7, 2011 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Yep
with the added caveat of being older and a never-was
by Eric Stephen on Sep 7, 2011 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
he's also going to the Nats
in the Strasburg deal :)
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 7, 2011 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
I guess if the Dodgers had been in contention, both would have been packed in a deal at the end of July.
for what
I am not sure about IDJ, but Hoffmann’s primary value is that he fills out a AAA roster so that better guys can play and get better
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 7, 2011 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions
I would not trade that for Ivan DeJesus.
Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Sep 7, 2011 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions
same as it ever-was
Jamie’s a never-was
by Josie Becker on Sep 7, 2011 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Gotta be a was to be a prospect.
Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Sep 7, 2011 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Yankee’s thought enough of him that they thought he might be better then Marcus Thames.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Career highlight: at one point considered possibly better than Marcus Thames. After careful consideration, they decided he wasn’t.
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by regfairfield on Sep 7, 2011 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
We’re going to have this exact same conversation about Justin Sellers in a couple years.
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by regfairfield on Sep 7, 2011 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Thames owned that year though. Yankees easily made the right call and not just because Hoff sucked.
by Michael White on Sep 7, 2011 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions
or for the Talking Heads, apparently : p
by Josie Becker on Sep 7, 2011 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
So the Yankees “we played until 2:00 AM last night” lineup is better than half the leagues real lineups
Eduardo Nunez SS
Russell Martin C
Nick Swisher RF
Alex Rodriguez 3B
Andruw Jones LF
Jesus Montero DH
Brandon Laird 1B
Greg Golson CF
Ramiro Pena 2B
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FWIW, from Heyman
Bill Burke’s alleged $1.2 billion bid for the Dodgers is being greeted as a joke by baseball powers. “Laughable,’”one person called it. Burke is seen as a buddy of Frank McCourt, and not a particularly rich one at that, whose pseudo bid is nothing more than attempt to prop up the sinking McCourt. Although, there is no sign of McCourt’s end in sight.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 7, 2011 12:02 PM PDT reply actions
read the article and find out :)
CJ Wilson might want to pitch in SoCal, DOES THAT MEAN ANGELS?!?!?!?!?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 7, 2011 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions
We complain about Steiner, but check this out from Mets radio guy Wayne Hagin
he’s trying to describe the starter for that night’s game:
Capuano has one of the most [confused pause] important and maybe roughest, uh, assignments you can think of for a pitcher. He is making his 10th start over the last five, including tonight, five of the ten, exactly half of those, are against the Florida Marlins. So both sides know [long pause] he knows what they like, and they know what he pitches.
Hard to judge without hearing the crack of the beer can in the background.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 7, 2011 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions
it’s insanity, at least Steiner can nail a pregame prepared statement
by Josie Becker on Sep 7, 2011 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I am a fan of Charley Steiner, his sense of humor, his cadence, his style, his “follow me to freedom” and Evander “come out and get your whoopin’” ESPN commercials, and even like his rapport with Rick Monday.
I just don’t like his inability to properly describe the flight and location of an airborne baseball.
That, and the mom’s basement jokes about blogs every so often.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 7, 2011 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
The Steiner/Mo pairing would be much better on TV because we’d have the score in front of our face and Monday’s story’s are not as crazy as Lyons. That said it would only be an incremental improvement.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
at least Monday
actually was a Dodger
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 7, 2011 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
if only he was as good for us as he was for the cubs
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 7, 2011 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions
he was
that was a cheap shot Mo, sorry
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 7, 2011 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Quite the consistent fuck he was
Oakland – 639 Games 129 OPS+
Cubs – 702 Games – 125 OPS+
Dodgers – 645 Games 121 OPS+
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
if we give Gibby credit for a homerun
can’t we give Monday some for his?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 7, 2011 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
for sure, I didn’t mean to crap on him like that
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 7, 2011 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
No I know, I was just imagining how awesome that audio would be if Hagin was drinking.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 7, 2011 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah I was agreeing with you, he sounds either drunk or insane : )
by Josie Becker on Sep 7, 2011 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Even the best of speakers can lose their train of thought while making a prepared speech, so I can’t judge much from just this.
This was one huge pile of mumbled crap though.
Allergy medicine
but yeah, we all know the DodgerTalk host Ken Levine stumbled through a rough patch that was embarrassing as hell but we know he’s not that bad.
I suspect that if we audited one of Josie classes we could hear students mumbling as they left WTF was she talking about.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I wouldn’t go so far as to say Dejesus has zero future with the Dodgers. He is still going to return to Albuquerque next year, and he figures to be the first infielder to that would be called up. If he can continue to show the improvements he did over the last few months, then I think he will get another shot.
I also think the Dodgers are planning on having Gordon and Sellers on the team. They probably were not comfortable with the idea of Gordon/Sellers/Dejesus all making the team.
Dodgers 2012 minor league infields
AAA
Herrera SS
Dejesus 2nd
AA
Lemmerman SS
Pedroza 2nd
A+
Ynoa SS
Grider 2nd
A
Boudreax SS
Wingo 2nd
Wingo on the Loons should be good for a .650 OPS
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
It is Ogden, he won’t translate to the MWL. JMO
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
the walk rate?
not sure i understand.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 7, 2011 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions
College middle infielders destroy Ogden, suck in the MWL. A tale as old as time. Wingo will be no different.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
thank you
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 7, 2011 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions
depending on how 2012 goes, I could see Lemmerman finishing the year in AAA showing IDJ how it’s done, with Sellers looking around for a catcher’s glove to add to his MI/CO collection.
@RB_GScott
should Lemmerman move to 3B or 2B
and get himself up quicker?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 7, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
like he has a choice
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 7, 2011 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions
He’s getting closer to having a choice if he’s left off the 40 man this winter.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
how close?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 7, 2011 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions
how many of these guys are going to be better then sellers and or carrol next year
Clint Barmes HOU
Willie Bloomquist ARI *
Orlando Cabrera CLE
Robinson Cano NYY *
Jamey Carroll LAD
Luis Castillo NYM
Alex Cora WAS
Craig Counsell MIL
Mark Ellis OAK
Carlos Guillen DET
Jerry Hairston Jr. WAS
Aaron Hill TOR *
Omar Infante FLA
Joe Inglett HOU
Kelly Johnson ARI
Adam Kennedy SEA
Felipe Lopez TB
Jose Lopez FLA
Aaron Miles LAD
basically which of these guys should we sign to start at 2nd.
This one is easy
Because he’s a free agent after 2011
by Eric Stephen on Sep 7, 2011 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Two options (which will either be picked up or renegotiated into a new contract with NYY)
by Eric Stephen on Sep 7, 2011 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Kelly Johnson, Robinson Cano (no chance in hell his option is not exercised)
Those are the only sure things
Kelly Johnson and “sure thing” are not word combinations that usually go together.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 7, 2011 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions
did you forget
Uribe was still on the team?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 7, 2011 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions
or
sign Aramis Ramirez to play third.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 7, 2011 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions
At this point he’s a POS coming of hernia surgery. I’d be shocked if he is given any starting job without some competition. Ned hates it when his free agent purchases suck in the first year.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
lets see
Wilson Betemit KC
Casey Blake LAD *
Eric Chavez NYY
Mark DeRosa SF
Greg Dobbs PHI
Edwin Encarnacion TOR *
Wes Helms FLA
Melvin Mora ARI
Aramis Ramirez CHC
Miguel Tejada SF
Omar Vizquel CWS
so theres A Ram and then a bunch of crap, then Betemit. Pickings are slim.
Agreed. I’d probably take Stewart over Betemit too.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 7, 2011 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I think the Rockies nailed this one. He’s done, he can’t adjust. Heck we should have gotten Kouz if we wanted a 3rd baseman. He might be available, does anyone think the Rockies are going to tender him?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
If not Stewart or Kouz, than who would they have at third? Seems like they keep Kouz for that reason alone.
could see if Chavez will go for a platoon again
then we’ll run a pool for his first injury
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 7, 2011 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Betemit and Encarnacion are 3rd baseman in name only. By 2012 neither will ever be allowed to play 3rd again.
Blake is still the best choice. If we have a similar budget, Blake is coming back.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
With Blake’s injury history the last couple years I just can’ see the Dodgers bringing him back. I guess they could if it was a bench role and he was getting paid next to nothing.
they love his leadership
and they can probably get him for cheap coming of this injury plagued season
Fun times
Nakamura played in three innings, over two games, at shortstop for the Dodgers in 2005. And played two innings at second base. I remember the time at shortstop and being frightened by it, but I don’t remember him at second.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 7, 2011 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I’d tell you to let the 2012 die before even breathing life into the idea….but the Dbax made it happen somehow this year so there’s always hope.
Discount plan: platoon of Justin Sellers and Nick Punto.
Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Sep 7, 2011 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I saw a tweet the other day that Punto asked for a security guard in Triple A to literally avoid something like 8 fans seeking an autograph. I’ll try to find it.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 7, 2011 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Found it
Possible conjecture, so take with a grain of salt. From @MinorLeagueBlog on Friday:
#STLCards Nick Punto apparently had security protect him from being bothered by 8 people waiting 4 his autograph postgame at AAA Memphis
by Eric Stephen on Sep 7, 2011 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
That ain’t scrappy at all.
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by regfairfield on Sep 7, 2011 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
It took me 30 seconds to realize that “4” is not being used as a number.
by dodgerpreacher on Sep 7, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Isotopes’ attendance virtually the same in 2011 as in 2010, according to Baseball America.
8,159 per game last season, 8,145 per game this season.
Other minor league affiliates there as well.
Not that the Yankees need to...
But how absurd would it be for them to sign Pujols and just DH him.
SS – Jeter
3b – A-Rod
DH – Pujols
1b – Teixeira
CF – Granderson
C – Montero
LF – Gardner
RF – Swisher
Is baseball better off that the Yankees, Red Sox, Phillies are so good?
Or would enforcing a salary cap to divy up all the talent signing in 3 places make the game better?
I was just thinking this morning
the last time the Red Sox and Yankees met in the ALCS was in 2004.
On a national scale, MLB is better with the Yankees (and other big markets doing well).
However since so much money is made on RSNs, they need growth in all markets.
I think they can still do well but not accumulate seemingly every single good player.
They’ve made the playoffs something like 15 of 16 years thats crazy.
Many people feel the same
about the Lakers (that they get all the good players, remarkable good luck, always making the playoffs, numerous HOF).
This would haunt my dreams if he went to NY, Bos, or SF
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
I wouldn't really care if he went to NY or BOS
I would very much care if he went to SF.
by Michael White on Sep 7, 2011 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Of course, if Montero could play catcher, he’d be playing catcher right now.
I think Montero is gonna be a career DH. I know that he’s only 21, but there hasn’t been any indication that he’s gotten any better at catcher. From everything I’ve read about him, he makes Posada look good.
They can always decline Cano’s option and move Posada to second!
by Eric Stephen on Sep 7, 2011 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
can i borrow your notes?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 7, 2011 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Kind of messy and unorganized, but sure.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 7, 2011 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I think voters like a story, like an angle, and like making the dodgers look bad
it would do all of the above – you can hear them talking themselves into it on the TV and in print
and they don’t have to apologize for the way they vote
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 7, 2011 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Kemp would
be helped more by the Dodgers climbing toward .500.
Kershaw has in his control so to speak, he wins the rest of his starts and keeps his current stats (sub 2.5 ERA, lead the league in strike outs), he has a shot.
Cliff Lee is going to get more and more heat if he keeps shutting out teams.
wins would count – I think the thing that would most help Kemp would be
Him getting hot while the rest of the team being cold
his greatest argument is how much better he has been than everyone else on the team. expanding that and reminding of that, I think helps him
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 7, 2011 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
8 homeruns
3 stolen bases
and HGT
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 7, 2011 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
You know
If or when Ryan Braun hits 3 more home runs, he will probably have 30/30 season with 100 runs scored/100 RBI and a possible batting title. Combine that with a first place team and he has to be the favorite for MVP (despite the presence of Prince Fielder).
My five
Braun
Fielder
Upton
Kemp
Victorino
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Hard to ignore what Upton has done for the Diamondbacks, the numbers don’t grab you but the fact is that he’s the best player on a team no one expected to compete and that story will work while Braun / Fielder will split the Brewer vote. Just can’t see Kemp knocking off Upton.
If we are going to pimp Kemp, then Votto has every right to be in the same conversation.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
So does Tulo.
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by regfairfield on Sep 7, 2011 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Hell right now there’s five guys that I wouldn’t be upset about winning: Kemp, Braun, Upton, Tulo and Votto with a sixth guy Victorino that deserves it. This has to be one of the most even fields in recent history.
It’s probably gonna end up going to Prince or Howard though.
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How can you lump Howard with Prince this year?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Same RBIs and home runs. Prince is a much better choice than Howard, but even if you ignore defense he’s not as good as the other six guys.
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Every time you ironically pimp Howard a bunny dies
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
the numbers don’t grab you but the fact is that he’s the best player on a team no one expected to compete
just like his manager when he was with the Dodgers
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 7, 2011 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I am just at possible BH
Just at possible
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 7, 2011 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Braun is a player who I had no idea how fast he was until I saw him close up at Dodger Stadium.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
In hindsight
Paul D’s biggest problem was not crashing and burning in 2004. I think the fans would have been so happy just to get rid of Fox that it would not have mattered.
Then you get a high protected pick in the very good 2005 draft, you dump Tracy at the end of 2004 and you go from there.
Does the team still get Kershaw in 2006? I don’t know but I would have liked a shot at someone like Braun.
About damn time!
Too bad the Cy Young race is now a 3 way sprint. Hopefully Doc and Lee split votes so Kershaw has a chance to sneak in.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
I think his remaining starts are:
this friday @ SF
9/14 vs. AZ
9/20 vs SF
9/25 @ SD
Chukwudiebere Maduabum FTW!!!!!!!
Follow @Shaqfor3
I wish I could get that hot in a sauna
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 7, 2011 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Indianapolis radio host Jake Query, relaying what he said on radio to Peyton Manning:
What I said: A source I consider reliable told me he is out for the season. I do believe that the actual diagnosis is still being determined
I was also told the 3rd procedure has taken place, either Sun or Monday.
to emphasize: not backing off what I said, but Manning obviously didnt tell me info. Two people I trust did. Just tellin u what I was told
sorry, that should be “about” Manning, not “to” Manning.
by Eric Stephen on Sep 7, 2011 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Does this mean there will be a moratorium of Manning TV commercials for the season
can that happen?
please?
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 7, 2011 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions
In my scenario, all four would be number one picks.
and the younger one would be drafted because the older one got hurt and their team sucked that season.
mine remain on the internet and I remain in my chair
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 7, 2011 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions
First the Pack, possible next the Colts
teams that go from a long term HOF QB to a long term HOF QB
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 7, 2011 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I thought Dee and Kemp were at Best Buy???
by Michael White on Sep 7, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions
in a cab now
with a big screen sticking out of the trunk
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 7, 2011 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Andre Either now has an OPS+ of 121 even with an OPS that has dipped below .800
Can anyone guess the outfielder was also has an OPS+ of 121.
Plays a position that the team took some ridicule of on July 31st.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Nice guess but no, only looking at NL so not sure where he fits in
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Strangely enough
Frenchy and Melky both right at 121
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Killing me
Can anyone guess the outfielder was also has an OPS+ of 121.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Hell I did this whole exercise just for you
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Last time I checked he was in a big slump, guess he got better.
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Per Adam Kilgore
About tonight’s Dodgers-Nats game: The teams agreed earlier today to postpone. MLB stepped in, told them to try. Rizzo talking to Torre now.
Per Gene Wang:
In #Nats clubhouse. @JLannan31 just asked Detwiler: “Can we leave?” Detwiler said he didn’t know. He’s in street clothes tho
Someone better drag Dylan out of the bar
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
exactly – who is going to sober the guys up who already drank lunch
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 7, 2011 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Per MLB Rules - MLB can only suggest since this game will have no bearing on championship season
3.10
(a) The manager of the home team shall be the sole judge as to whether a game shall be started because of unsuitable weather conditions or the unfit condition of the playing field, except for the second game of a doubleheader. EXCEPTION: Any league may permanently authorize its president to suspend the application of this rule as to that league during the closing weeks of its championship season in order to assure that the championship is decided each year on its merits. When the postponement of, and possible failure to play, a game in the final series of a championship season between any two teams might affect the final standing of any club in the league, the president, on appeal from any league club, may assume the authority granted the home team manager by this rule.
I will add that
if the Dodgers finished second in the NL West, there is a players’ pool of money from the playoffs but it is very small.
So small that Dee and Matt just spent it?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
It is more than pocket money - 2010 playoff shares
Story (sorry about the Giants mention)
The four second-place, non-Wild Card finishers — the White Sox, Athletics, Padres and Cardinals — were given $549,021.64.
so a full share (depends on the team, usually between 30-50 or so full shares given out, plus partial shares) is probably between $10,000 and $20,000.
Another
As in he’s already bought you one or more? He’s so nice
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
base model new cars that get awesome mpg, as long as you don’t like playing CDs, having hands free, or cruise control.
@RB_GScott
sometimes when i see another fiesta on the road, I’m like it’s a fiesta fiesta, and then I chortle
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
Top Gear did a thing
and you can get an 80s early 90s supercar for what you pay for a new featureless car. Of course those old Ferrari’s and Fiat’s aren’t exactly reliable
I have a CD player
Aux port, Cruise control, power windows, and then pretty much everything else is whatever, but still.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
I'm looking at the Hyundai Accent at the moment
40 MPH for 16k
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
MPG rather
I think it goes faster than 40 MPH
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
2004 Mitsubishi Eclipse GT?
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
By small
it still could be 5-6K each per share plus some cash disbursements to coaches, training staff, etc/
Eric – should we delete David’s fanshot that is on the front page since the game hasn’t been called yet?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Without consulting Eric's payroll worksheet on the sidebar
Guess the player who got called up from the minors this season and ended up earning the most (so most days on the roster.)
Correct.
1) Elbert 2) Guerra 3) Oeltjen
by Michael White on Sep 7, 2011 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions
MMA Stuff
Nick Diaz does exactly what you expect, skips two press conferences, gets himself fired. UFC 137 now GSP vs. Carlos Condit
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the things that make these guys successful are the things that make these guys unsuccessful
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 7, 2011 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe he realized that he can’t beat St. Pierre?
Also, Greg Jackson trains both St. Pierre and Condit. Doubt that this will go the way of Jones-Evans, though. Both Condit and St. Pierre seem like good guys and Evans has always been kind of an asshole.
Yeah jumped the gun on that, they might as well though since there’s no way he’s getting an important fight again.
Don’t see any real conflicts coming up other than how badly Condit’s gonna get wrestled.
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Seems reasonable. I’m more excited about this fight than GSP-Diaz since Condit is pretty much a better version of Diaz and at least has a chance to get a punch in.
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I just wanted to see St. Pierre shut Diaz up. I hate the Diaz brothers.
I like Condit and St. Pierre, so not sure who I’ll be cheering for. Probably Condit, since he’s a local kid.
Yeah that’s a huge factor. I’d like to see Condit win just because the top of that division needs some new matchups instead of shoving Ellenbarger or someone into a fight he’s not ready for and finding creative ways to not give Fitch another shot.
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too bad
i wanted to see GSP kick the shit out of him.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Sep 7, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions
An interesting story on what happens when
bloggers stop being polite….and start being real
#nytimes #food #interesting
What were they expecting, posts about how great their crappy lasagna is?
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someone served that shit to me and there would be a food war
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 7, 2011 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I was just thinking as I read that, I wonder if that’s really how bloggers are perceived by PR staffs, and that’s why it’s hard for bloggers to get access. Bloggers feel that commitment to their audience, not to their publication
I don’t know why you’d do this to someone who had a built in audience to expose you as opposed to some yokel you pulled out of the food court.
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I would like anything by Alec Baldwin reading in the character of Jack Donaghy
by Hollywood Joe on Sep 7, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
you can get podcasts on itunes
including history of rome. i texted you a suggestion of how to get it on your ipod.
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
because you're lacking context most likely
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
it is helpful. i have a USB port in my car so anything i get on itunes I can put on my ipod and play through the speakers.
@RB_GScott
transfer all music to lappy
connect ipod to lappy, wipe it and put lappy music on, win.
alternatively, plug in your ipod, set it to sync manually, and then add stuff manually by using playlists.
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
I cannot do
audio books. Just can’t concentrate on them while driving
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
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