Salary Arbitration Eligible Dodgers: James Loney
by Eric Stephen on Jan 11, 2012 7:01 AM PST
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Our next look at Dodgers eligible for salary arbitration brings us to James Loney, the first baseman who forged an interesting path in 2011. In the first half of the season, Loney looked like he was following the Casey Kotchman path to a tee:
- Kotchman was drafted in the first round (13th overall) in 2001, never developed the power he was once thought to have, and hit .217/.280/.336 with nine home runs in 125 games in roughly his fifth year of service time, in 2010.
- Loney was drafted in the first round (19th overall) in 2002, never developed the power he was once thought to have, and hit .268/.311/.342 with four home runs in 91 games in his fifth year of service time, in 2011.
Kotchman, a year after making just over $3.5 million with Seattle, was forced to take a minor league deal in 2011 with Tampa Bay and had a nice bounceback year, hitting .306/.378/.422 in 146 games for a measly $750,000. Loney, making $4.875 million in 2011, was headed straight down that path to non-tenderville, but then something clicked.
Whether it was the change in hitting coaches from Jeff Pentland to Dave Hansen on July 20, or whether the looming reality of a massive paycut sparked a turnaround, or whether the occasional day off helped, Loney was a different hitter after the All-Star break. Loney hit .320/.380/.534 with 18 doubles and eight home runs in 67 games after the break, and ended with season numbers pretty much in line with his last three seasons, if not better.
So here we are, with Loney eligible for salary arbitration again, with five years, 12 days of service time. With first basemen, it's tough to find true comps for Loney because the best hitters at first base are among the best hitters in baseball, and many end up signing long-term extensions or are simply too productive and/or pricy to compare to Loney.
I found three first baseman roughly comparable to Loney, and here are their career numbers at a similar service time to Loney:
| Player | Thru | Svc Time | G | PA | 2B | HR | Runs | RBI | BA/OBP/SLG | OPS | OPS+ | bWAR | fWAR | Salaryn-1 | Salaryn | % Inc. |
| James Loney | 2011 | 5.012 | 782 | 3018 | 155 | 67 | 323 | 418 | .288/.346/.432 | .778 | 108 | 5.6 | 8.6 | $4,875 | ???? | ?? |
| Jorge Cantu | 2009 | 5.036 | 663 | 2724 | 170 | 90 | 309 | 404 | .278/.323/.456 | .780 | 102 | 1.5 | 5.3 | $3,500 | $6,000 | 71.4% |
| Adam LaRoche | 2008 | 5.000 | 688 | 2601 | 167 | 111 | 324 | 386 | .273/.340/.492 | .832 | 114 | 5.4 | 6.0 | $5,000 | $7,050 | 41.0% |
| Lyle Overbay | 2007 | 5.026 | 694 | 2711 | 183 | 71 | 317 | 324 | .284/.362/.454 | .816 | 111 | 9.0 | 8.1 | $4,200 | $5,800 | 38.1% |
I cheated a bit with Overbay, as he signed a four-year deal before the 2007 season, and his salary for 2007 was only $400,000 so I added his $3.8 million signing bonus and counted that for 2007, too. Overbay is the only one of the three comparable players who signed a multi-year deal.
Here's a look at the four first basemen in their launch seasons:
| Player | Year | Svc Time | G | PA | 2B | HR | Runs | RBI | BA/OBP/SLG | OPS | OPS+ | bWAR | fWAR |
| James Loney | 2011 | 5.012 | 158 | 582 | 30 | 12 | 56 | 65 | .288/.339/.416 | .775 | 110 | 1.1 | 2.3 |
| Jorge Cantu | 2009 | 5.036 | 149 | 643 | 42 | 16 | 67 | 100 | .289/.345/.443 | .788 | 105 | 1.3 | 1.0 |
| Adam LaRoche | 2008 | 5.000 | 136 | 554 | 32 | 25 | 66 | 85 | .270/.341/.500 | .841 | 122 | 1.7 | 1.5 |
| Lyle Overbay | 2007 | 5.026 | 122 | 476 | 30 | 10 | 49 | 44 | .240/.315/.391 | .706 | 85 | 0.8 | -0.1 |
If we just look at these three comps for Loney and their percentage increase in salary, a 38.1% raise for Loney would be $6.75 million while a 71.4% increase would be about $8.35 million. Last year I guessed a 38.7% raise for Loney and that turned out to be far too low. Loney got a 57.3% raise in 2011 and followed that up with arguably a better season than he had in 2010.
I'm revising my guess for James Loney to make $7.25 million in 2012. What's your guess?
Special thanks to Maury Brown's Business of Baseball, and to Jeff Euston's Cot's Contracts, which is now housed at Baseball Prospectus.
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the mccourt saga really screwed us at 1B when you look at the options that are out there in 2013.. its garbage. hopefully jim proves himself to be more than cantu/laroche/overbay..
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jan 11, 2012 7:52 AM PST reply actions
McCourt saga meaning McCourt ownership? Because Fielder is really expensive for a lot of teams and if anything the McCourt saga (defined as divorce which led down the path to bankruptcy and eventual sale) opened up the door for higher priced free agents in the future.
by Michael White on Jan 11, 2012 7:54 AM PST up reply actions
I was just looking at the puke available at 1b for next year and felt like blaming someone for our lack of options.. I picked McCourt out of a hat.
Also would have been nice to have Fielder/Pujols/Pena rather than a bouquet of Hairston/Kennedy/Ellis/etc but Im just rambling now. Need more coffee.
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jan 11, 2012 7:57 AM PST up reply actions
the baseball insiders don’t seem to think it’ll be possible in that market.
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They signed Griffey and were fine, with revenue sharing and TV contracts as they are I think you have to in some ways scrap the idea of the league being divided into large/mid/small market teams and look at it more as very large/large/small market teams.
I’d build my team around him, but the estimation is that it’ll be too much of a commitment for the Reds while trying to field a competitive team, much like the Brewers with Fielder. Of course there is no Braun in Cincy but I heard they’re also trying to lock up Phillips, who has more positional value.
There is still market disparity there, but we will see.
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From the last thread
Q:
On to the sale Assuming sale is set by April 30 as promised, how long will it take for the new ownership to start driving the car? Believe entire ownership must vote. Know it can be done by conference call but don’t believe it usually goes that way?
Say a conference call or meeting is done before the All Star Game or at it and Dodgers are hovering at 3-7 games out, a few games under 500, perhaps a few games above. If this is the case and there are opportunities in the Wild Card as well. Do you think the Dodgers could get a nice infusion of cash and go for it? Or does ownership watch and pitch a few pennies and then clean house-preparing for 2014 when they have all of the TV money and some crap coming off the payroll.
A: It depends entirely on who the winner is and how they set up their corporate structure. If Mark Cuban wins, I imagine he’ll function more as a President/Chairman making approvals/rejections by himself. If one of these less top-heavy groups wins, you could see a Board of Directors which could have a slower decision making process or they could nominate a Chairman to make decisions quicker. From what I gather, the board/owner mostly just sets a budget for each department (including Baseball Operations) and lets them do what they will with it, and the approval process only really kicks in if they go above that budget.
As to the first part of the question, I expect the new ownership group to be fully in control either on April 30 or at the opening of business on May 1. MLB is pre-approving each group (and charging each group $25,000 to cover the investigation costs, per Shaikin) so it is designed to be a quick transfer.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 11, 2012 8:13 AM PST up reply actions
No real changes until after the season
1. At the minor-league level, all assignments will have been made, coaches are hired and season only a month old.
2. Amateur draft will be 5 weeks away, scouts should have narrowed in on most likely players available. Only impact could be increased budget for signings (though that will be impacted by new rules regarding bonuses per new CBA).
3. Short of a catastrophic first month, I can’t see the new owners making any real changes in baseball operations until after the season. Now, could they add more money to this year’s budget to make some in season moves, sure but it is more likely they will do more things like more discounted tickets, autograph days, cut prices on parking and beer than sack Ned or anyone else during the season.
by bhsportsguy on Jan 11, 2012 8:27 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
I'll guess $7.75MM
Not far off your number, but I’m guessing on the high side (closer to that crazy Cantu comp)
I would love to sit through a full arbitration hearing, or at least see the presentation and research materials prepared by one or both sides.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 11, 2012 8:15 AM PST up reply actions
Do you know if Cantu won his arbitration hearing or something, because that’s such a crazy jump for a first baseman coming off a 105 OPS+ season. Worst of all, Cantu’s the most recent comp!
by Michael White on Jan 11, 2012 8:22 AM PST up reply actions
I think they settled but let me find it….
by Eric Stephen on Jan 11, 2012 8:24 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah, he and Florida agreed to the contract, avoiding arbitration.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 11, 2012 8:25 AM PST up reply actions
2010 turned out so bad for Cantu
Got off to the crazy start, with at least one RBI in each of his first 10 games.
Through May 9: .267/.308/.517 with 7 HR, 29 RBI in 31 games
Rest of season: .252/.302/.349 with 4 HR, 27 RBI in 96 games
by Eric Stephen on Jan 11, 2012 8:28 AM PST up reply actions
I noticed that Stephen Drew and AZ have a 10m mutual option on the table for next season.. dude should be highly motivated to bounce back from his horrific injury..
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jan 11, 2012 8:03 AM PST up reply actions
very rarely. I want to say Mike Cameron had his $8mil mutual option with milwaukee picked up a few years ago, and that’s the last one I remember. They aren’t given out enough to really see a trend, but it’s unlikely to be set at a price both sides feel is fair, especially since most of them are 1 year options.
You keep sticking to the option scenario for these guys who are too close to free agency.
No reason for Loney to do that deal because he can get more than $6 million this year and if he hits well enough he can hit the free agent market that could be light on first basemen, setting himself up for a multi-year deal. If Loney doesn’t hit well enough in 2012, his option won’t get picked up anyway.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 11, 2012 8:20 AM PST up reply actions
I picked 12 as a number that was probably higher than he could get in 2013 if he had a typical Loney year in 2012, in exchange for the team’s savings of ~$1mil this year, and if he does turn into Jim he can just turn down the option. If he thinks he can get more than 12 for 2013, more power to him, decline it.
But the number wouldn’t just be $12m, it would be closer to $10.5 or so since Loney would be giving up some money this year, and he would be postponing a shot at a multi-year deal. It’s a situation in which he can’t win; either he doesn’t hit well enough (wouldn’t get the option) or he hits well enough to be an attractive free agent and would rather leave.
It would have be structured with a buyout or something to get Loney closer to what he is going to make in 2012 anyway, but then you’d have to question the Dodgers’ motivation.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 11, 2012 8:37 AM PST up reply actions
I’m very much on board with the Andrew Grant 3 year plan, but don’t think it’ll happen, and if it does, it won’t happen at a price that sits comfortably.
Maybe 3/30?
I started to type a long winded thought on the matter and the 3/30 figure was included but ended up deleting it because I second guessed myself. It’s in regards to a risk analysis of Sands/VanSlyke’s potential, and Loney playing like Jim as opposed to James making our 3 year committment at $30M worth it.
It’s tough to gamble on a 2 month trend vs. a 4 year consistent history……bleak 1B FA market over the next few years or not. Plus as Eric mentioned….without a hefty buyout, why would Jim/James do it?
"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"
because assuming he makes 7 nest year regardless, 23/2 is probably more than he gets over those two years as a free agent
no reason for the Dodgers to do it. Too much risk, too much money.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 11, 2012 8:52 AM PST up reply actions
Come to think of it, there is no three-year deal for James Loney that would satisfy both of these criteria:
1) I would like it
2) Loney would like it
by Eric Stephen on Jan 11, 2012 8:57 AM PST up reply actions
If he has even an okay year, I think he’ll make at least 18/2, which would be reason enough for him to not accept that contract.
Settlements approved
Shaikin tweets:
Judge Gross approves settlement between #Dodgers and Fox.
MLB attorney: Our agreement with #Dodgers requires each bidder to pay $25,000 to MLB, covering costs for league to investigate bidder.
Judge Gross approves settlement between #Dodgers and MLB.
The Dodgers and Fox Sports ended their legal hostilities Tuesday night, with the team agreeing to abandon its proposed sale of television rights and Fox agreeing to withdraw its objection to the settlement between Major League Baseball and outgoing owner Frank McCourt.
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by Little Blue Bicycle on Jan 11, 2012 8:19 AM PST up reply actions
Drew’s have walked away from higher dollar figure options in the past
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his career ops+ is 98
he should be happy to be making 10m..
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jan 11, 2012 8:11 AM PST up reply actions
he just needs to lock it in
dude was looking amazing at the end of last season.. he just needs to stop fiddling with his swing every day.
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jan 11, 2012 8:16 AM PST up reply actions
Disagree completely. His weight transfer is inconsistent and often atrocious. A swing isn’t just about how the bat moves.
Ethier and Kemp both have better looking and more consistent swings.
Loney has better pitch recognition and contact skills, but his swing is not balanced. His weight transfer is awful and produces all those soft grounders and liners to short.
I don’t think his weight transfer has nearly as much to do with it as how much he hunches over sometimes and the timing of his stride. Agree to disagree.
Fair enough.
All I can say is watch his hips. They are way ahead of his swing most of the time and that is the #1 problem when he doesn’t hit the ball hard. With his contact skills, if he just kept his weight back more he would hit the ball hard all the time.
his hips get ahead when he guesses wrong and he blows his hips early, then tries to hold his hands back rather than just taking the swing he started with, missing, and getting another pitch to hit.
People always say lefties have better looking swings
I’ll say Kemp has the best looking swing on the team, Ethier behind.
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There’s something about the way the ball flies to right center field. It looks so effortless.
by Michael White on Jan 11, 2012 9:12 AM PST up reply actions
I can't remember a right handed hitter crushing the ball to CF like he does so often
His home runs to CF look majestic
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The NLDS (Cubs) on one leg HR
Freakin half way up the LF bleachers.
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The follow through adds to it, when he just holds the bat up there after he has tagged one.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 11, 2012 9:13 AM PST up reply actions
There’s some terribly perverted logic that says Loney is the best first basemen available in 2013, and honestly we’re not gonna get Joey Votto, so why not just wrap him up for three years.
James Loney will never leave.
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Has there ever been anymore said about the car crash?
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by Little Blue Bicycle on Jan 11, 2012 8:19 AM PST up reply actions
not really…I think they have quick fixes for ghonorrea and the clap….it’s the ninja you gotta watch out for. RIP Eazy E *pours .40oz
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oh, I was still punning…they did a brain scan and didn’t find anything : )
by Josie Becker on Jan 11, 2012 9:26 AM PST up reply actions
I’m not opposed to it at all…..since a Prince is not possible. My my how that would change the landscape of our offense.
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I’d much rather see Sands step up as our future at 1B
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bigger teeth, for sure
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jan 11, 2012 8:39 AM PST up reply actions
Brandon’s scouting report on Van Slyke made me a believer
by Michael White on Jan 11, 2012 8:36 AM PST up reply actions
all he said is that he was big and could hit batting practice fastballs into the bleachers
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James Loney is Hotel California. (sorry, Marty)
by Eric Stephen on Jan 11, 2012 9:11 AM PST up reply actions
missed the madson conversation (if there was one)
I’m kinda shocked that Madson was looking at 4/44 from the Red Sox month or so ago and now all he has this season is a 1yr deal from Cincy where his numbers could look pretty bad. I thought all GMs were interested in spending a fortune on closers?
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jan 11, 2012 8:23 AM PST reply actions
Madson doesn’t have a closer mentality.
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by regfairfield on Jan 11, 2012 8:33 AM PST up reply actions
Hahahahaha Madson is getting less money than Matt Guerrier baseball is so dumb.
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by regfairfield on Jan 11, 2012 9:12 AM PST up reply actions
It
Will be interesting to see if attendance rises after the sale with the number of fans saying they wouldn’t go back until McCourt is gone.
by bhsportsguy on Jan 11, 2012 8:31 AM PST via mobile reply actions
Obviously not every day is spent in court
but I’m sure the legal bills were sky-high and ongoing through the process. I found this number from Shaikin eye-popping:
The approvals conclude an 807-day period in which Dodgers owner Frank McCourt had opposed his ex-wife, MLB and/or Fox in court. He now has settled with all three parties.
807
Days. Back in the day, civil cases took 5 years to get to trial.
by bhsportsguy on Jan 11, 2012 8:36 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah
But that was a while ago, now it is more like 18 months to a 2 years.
by bhsportsguy on Jan 11, 2012 8:47 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Being a parent must be so hard.
My long time next door neighbors son has just started surgery that is expected to last 14 hours today. The surgeons hope to somehow rebuild his crushed pelvic bones and contain/manage the internal bleeding that is his biggest obstacle to living. Jason Ryan Cordova was in a horrific car accident on Saturday Night and has been fighting for his life ever since. This will be his fifth surgery.
The Good News:
a. The hole they drilled into his skull to replace pressure has worked and so far the specialists believe he’s had no brain damage
b. His heart is strong
c. His lung is starting to come back
d. no damage to his spinal cord
The bad news:
a. Multiple broken ribs
b. compound fracture of his right arm
c. fractured kneecap
d. crushed pelvic
e. internal bleeding
f. four surgerys in three days
He’s been in an induced coma since the accident. If he lives, the road back to simply walking again will be brutal. He’s not going through anything more then any young son who was blown apart in service to their country, but when a 58 year old father almost sags into your arms after telling you the news, you wonder how this countries families cope every day as a lifetime of wonder and hard work evaporates in a second.
On Saturday I spent the day playing with my one year old grand nephew and wishing I had made the commitment to parenthood. By Sunday Night, I’m not sure I’d have been strong enough to do it.
Jason is a lot like most of you. A young man who has finished school and was starting out his young life. Hopefully he gets to continue.
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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 11, 2012 8:39 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Good luck
And best wishes to the family.
by bhsportsguy on Jan 11, 2012 8:46 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
That is awful. A couple years ago, family friends had a son who was in a bad car accident and was in a medically induced coma for a week or so. He eventually pulled through and is a normal young adult now. It was amazing to think that he pulled through, so it does happen, but it is certainly hard on the parents. My best to them.
I get worried
from a case of the sniffles or a fever. Can’t imagine going through anything like this. Stay strong!
Sorry to hear that Phil, thats very sad…. but yeah being a parent is very hard, and thats even with good health…. I would think every parents biggest fear is their child dying before them, and thats something that should never happen. No parent should have to bury their child. I hope Jason pulls thru it! I would think the recovery process isnt as hard for a parent as long as your child survives, you just want your kid to live, whatever you gotta do after that, you’ll do.
I really hope
he pulls through Phil. It sounds like you are being a great friend to the father.
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All the best to that young man and his family. Nice of you to be there for them, as much as you can.
by TopDeckTrueBlue on Jan 11, 2012 12:58 PM PST up reply actions
I am hoping for the best outcome
It helps to be a bit of an optimist as a parent. You know bad outcomes can happen, you hope they don’t and you don’t dwell on them.
It also takes a strong man to be the friend that can be leaned upon. It is good that you are there for them.
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I’m not sure anyone has perplexed me more as a Dodger then Mr. Loney. Maybe Mike Marshal.
If Loney has turned around his career, 2012 could be a fun year, if not I don’t see how this is more then a .500 team. They really need a strong left handed bat.
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This is so true. When Loney first came up it really seemed like he hit everything on the screws, lots of line drives. Somewhere along the way he started hitting weak dribblers. I certainly think he is the lynchpin on this offense. Kemp and Ethier will do more or less what they have done, but Loney needs to take that step up and provide something similar to what he did in the second half.
he struck out a ton, I liked the power but never held out much hope for him.
Karim Garcia, even though he was not a Dodger long, I really thought he’d be a player.
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I remember when Garcia came up. He hit a home run in San Francisco and I was excited. I was thinking, “Yep, here is yet another Dodger Rookie of the Year”
by Eric Stephen on Jan 11, 2012 9:05 AM PST up reply actions
I specifically remember him getting a hit off a lefty sometime during the 1988 WS and thinking he would finally make it. He must have been injured in ’89 and had his best year in 1990 before being traded.
I need to find old spring training stats. I think Stubbs led the Grapefruit League in home runs one year, or was close at least. I thought that was going to be a huge year.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 11, 2012 9:08 AM PST up reply actions
I’ll always have the grand slam off Todd Worrell.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 11, 2012 9:04 AM PST up reply actions
Marshall was streaky. When he was on, he made heaven a place on earth,
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Nice Belinda Carlisle call back. I’m still embarrassed that as a 4-5 year old Dodger fan that I couldn’t have picked a better favorite Dodger than Marshall. Luckily by 6-7 I wisened up and went with with Guerrero….Saxy being a close second.
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I fully expected Mike Marshall to become Frank Howard
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Yep
1981. .373, 34 homers, 137 RBI in 128 games.
One Flap Down hit .401 in 47 games and 204 PA with the Phoenix Giants, but didn’t have enough PA to qualify.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 11, 2012 10:20 AM PST up reply actions
Marshall was my favorite too. I saw him at a Lamps Plus as a rookie, and he signed the 8×10 “To a Super Buddy.” It didn’t matter to me that he wasn’t a star.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Lamps Plus
I’ll bet they were having a half-off sale
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What if James Loney battles Matt Kemp for the 2012 NL MVP, hitting 36 HR 130 RBI, .310/.390/.560
And then asks for a 6 year, 100 mil extension.
Do you do it?
We wonder when Loney became such good friends with Ryan Braun. :)
by Eric Stephen on Jan 11, 2012 8:58 AM PST up reply actions
I’m having a hard time coming up with the word that describes the mood I’m in this morning. Surly, maybe? What does surly mean?
I'm in a good mood because I managed to drag myself out of bed early
to play video games
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
it originally meant haughty and arrogant (literally sir + ly) but has come to mean bad-tempered and unfriendly
by Josie Becker on Jan 11, 2012 9:27 AM PST up reply actions
saucy implies impudent, showing a lack of respect, and flippant, but it’s sort of archaic now.
I think cranky works, but perhaps not serious enough. You say you’re cranky, people are like “oh go eat some chocolate”
Smoldering could work, feeling barely suppressed anger
by Josie Becker on Jan 11, 2012 9:35 AM PST up reply actions
same with saucy, it’s an issue with the line between bad boy and piece of shit being so fine
by Josie Becker on Jan 11, 2012 9:38 AM PST up reply actions
but I think smouldering captures the, “takes me one step closer to the edge, and I’m about to break” element
by Josie Becker on Jan 11, 2012 9:39 AM PST up reply actions
Snippy?
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
oh I like snippy. Similar to having a smart mouth
by Josie Becker on Jan 11, 2012 9:42 AM PST up reply actions
I got it! Churlish, rude in a mean spirited and surly way
by Josie Becker on Jan 11, 2012 10:05 AM PST up reply actions
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Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Jan 11, 2012 10:09 AM PST up reply actions
Silverwidow? :P
If Loney hits 36 jacks I’m betting he gets tested every day for a month, lol.
IF that does happen, i’d be fine with an extension like that, because he’s clearly the next Jose Bautista!
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The Loney Saga
Number one pick – tears up the rookie leagues as an 18 year old and even gets 64 at bats in high A ball and holds his own – sky is the limit
1st Spring training as a 19 year he impresses everyone with that beautiful swing – I think he’s going to be a star
After the rookie pro season never does much to merit the hoopla but some blame injuries – I downplay my expectations, even to the extent I believed more in Cory Dunlap then Loney. Canuck says to keep the faith
In 2006 he makes the team due to Nomar injury, struggles, goes back to minors – I say to myself, see, he’s no big deal.
In 2006 he comes back and goes bat shit crazy – I say, damn, I’m wrong again, this guy is better then anyone even said he could be
In 2007 he doesn’t make the team, goes to AAA and hits one home in 261 PA in the PCL – I have no idea what to think
In 2007 he comes back and again goes bat shit crazy and after two partial seasons totaling 485 plate appearances the man has an OPS over .900 – I say, damn, I’m wrong again, this guy is better then anyone even said he could be
From 2008 – July 2011 – he’s a barely tolerable option at 1st base. For a few years his production is okay because he’s making squat. In 2011 he’s killing the team – Each year from 2008 – 2011 I championed Loney, now I’m sure he simply sucks
Aug – 2011 – super bat shit crazy – HE IS DRIVING ME FUCKING NUTS
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
That is as good a summary as any. I might have added when Loney was sent down in 2006 after hitting .936 in spring training (rough estimate of his batting average) there was murderous rage by many, myself included.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 11, 2012 9:04 AM PST up reply actions
2006 jim loney made me think we had a olerud on our hands
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jan 11, 2012 9:04 AM PST up reply actions
He wore a helmet in the field?
That’s still the only thing I remember about John Olerud
by Michael White on Jan 11, 2012 9:05 AM PST up reply actions
Man, Olerud was good. Like Mark Grace v2.0
I think it was 1993 when the Blue Jays had the top three in the AL in batting average with Olerud hitting .363.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 11, 2012 9:07 AM PST up reply actions
just lookin at his bbref page.. look at that crazy 1993
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/o/olerujo01.shtml
.363/.473/.599 with a 186 ops+
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jan 11, 2012 9:07 AM PST up reply actions
17 seasons in MLB with a career 128 OPS+. Ya, that’s an awesome career.
by Michael White on Jan 11, 2012 9:10 AM PST up reply actions
On base heavy with great defense, it really is.
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by regfairfield on Jan 11, 2012 9:14 AM PST up reply actions
Closest thing today to an Olerud is ………… ( must be a 1st baseman)
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Nick Johnson might have been the closest
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From 2000 – 2011
OBP > .385
SLub <=.470
BA <= .310
502 plate appearances.
Nick the Stick heads the list but only qualified one year.
Player OBP SLG BA PA Year HR BB OPS Pos
Nick Johnson .426 .405 .291 574 2009 8 99 .831 *3
Mark Grace .394 .429 .280 621 2000 11 95 .824 *3
Daric Barton .393 .405 .273 686 2010 10 110 .798 *3
Doug Mientkiewicz .393 .450 .300 574 2003 11 74 .843 *3/94D5
John Olerud .392 .439 .285 683 2000 14 102 .831 *3
Kevin Youkilis .390 .453 .288 625 2007 16 77 .843 *35
Scott Hatteberg .389 .436 .289 539 2006 13 74 .826 *3
Doug Mientkiewicz .387 .464 .306 626 2001 15 67 .851 *3/D
Mark Grace .386 .466 .298 553 2001 15 67 .852 *3
Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Play Index Tool Used
Generated 1/11/2012.
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Man Daric Barton would have been a good answer this time last year.
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by regfairfield on Jan 11, 2012 9:24 AM PST up reply actions
Rickey played with a guy like that once.
by kinbote on Jan 11, 2012 9:07 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Not the .363 batting average.
He was an incredibly consistent hitter between. Between the age of 23 – 33 he had eight seasons of .285 – .300 but with two flukes in there of .363 and .354.
I guess I should focus more on the OB. From age 23 – 33 never lower then .375 with nine seasons over .390 ending with a career OBP of .398.
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Not the .363 batting average.
He was an incredibly consistent hitter between. Between the age of 23 – 33 he had eight seasons of .285 – .300 but with two flukes in there of .363 and .354.
I guess I should focus more on the OB. From age 23 – 33 never lower then .375 with nine seasons over .390 ending with a career OBP of .398.
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yeah my tunnel vision comparison was left handed, capable of high BA, not a ton of power but a solid contributor
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jan 11, 2012 9:11 AM PST up reply actions
There is a name I haven’t thought of in a while. A reliable source told me back in 04 that Lowe was less than excited about Ross being his battery mate. Something along the lines of “Do you know who it is I’ll be pitching to this year?”
"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"
He should have worn his helmet in the field.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 11, 2012 9:05 AM PST up reply actions
I remember a friend on my softball team a decade ago asked me if there were two hitters who would end up with identical stats, say a .333 batting average for one, would I rather have the streaky hitter or the one who went 1 for 3 every night.
I told him obviously the 1 for 3 every night guy because he could clearly handle the pressure of dealing with the media crush of his record-breaking hitting streak. :)
by Eric Stephen on Jan 11, 2012 9:12 AM PST up reply actions
He had power, he simply ate himself out of baseball.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=dunlap001cor
By 2007 he weighed 300 Ibs and didn’t care.
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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 11, 2012 11:23 AM PST up reply actions
IIRC I was the pot calling the kettle black, saying if Dunlap had simply done laps he would still be in baseball. :)
by Eric Stephen on Jan 11, 2012 11:24 AM PST up reply actions
I think you have outlined an article for yourself. Or have you written that one before?
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Are we at the point where good hitters are not actually streaky but simply go through stages of good and bad luck with BABIP?
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There are times when guys feel more “locked in” and they will be seeing the ball better and hitting the ball harder.
That said, if all you believe in is stats, I’m sure you could make that claim and find some evidence.
Hey, Hu didn't?
Kevin Goldstein @Kevin_Goldstein:
The Indians signed former Dodgers/Mets SS prospect Chin-Lung Hu. I totally whiffed on him, thought he’d be go
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
(should be "good" at end, not "go")
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
that's probably the appropriate reaction
{shrugs}
I did think he’d be better than he has been, I’ll say that.
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do you just avoid the Sunday morning bro-fest altogether?
by Josie Becker on Jan 11, 2012 9:24 AM PST up reply actions
Yes
All of those pregame shows are crap. Plus, I try to sleep in on Sundays anyway.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 11, 2012 9:29 AM PST up reply actions
I watched the fantasy football pregame show on ESPN 2 during the fantasy season. A lot of good that did me.
by Michael White on Jan 11, 2012 9:30 AM PST up reply actions
I kind of like Edge NFL matchup (the one with Jaworski and all the video breakdowns) but I rarely watch it.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 11, 2012 9:33 AM PST up reply actions
Best NFL show ever. Too bad they only showed it at like 1 am on Saturday nights and 6 am Sunday mornings.
Jaworski is pretty amazing. He’s like a NFL video savant.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 11, 2012 10:35 AM PST up reply actions
those shows seem to just be an excuse to put lumpy men on TV. I will say that I was helped through the playoffs through ESPNs “dark horse pickup” articles
by Josie Becker on Jan 11, 2012 9:36 AM PST up reply actions
On those shows, the analysts talk rather than scream. They answer a ton of questions and pretty much stay on point. It’s the opposite of the screaming, over-laughing nonsense that the networks and ESPN have on pre-game.
by Michael White on Jan 11, 2012 9:37 AM PST up reply actions
i hear that. CBS at least seems to stick with highlights, injury analysis, picks, every week, which is at least useful; whereas Fox will bust out the occasional terrible skit, and ESPN is two hours long. Two hours? For college on site, sure, but NFL in a studio? No way.
by Josie Becker on Jan 11, 2012 9:41 AM PST up reply actions
love the stat
that says 10% of the time spent on those shows is dedicated to the bro hosts laughing at each others stupid jokes
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jan 11, 2012 9:45 AM PST up reply actions
nope. Separate entities. This is TV Rome.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 11, 2012 10:21 AM PST up reply actions
At the end we realized Hu wasn’t good and that he had to go
"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"
Good lord am I glad that this man is no longer relevant.
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by regfairfield on Jan 11, 2012 9:35 AM PST up reply actions
Dodger Owners are a com'n ...
Josh ‘Italian Stallion’ Macciello is relishing the role of the underdog. what most don’t know is in another life he was UFC fighter Tank Abbott.
Tom Barrack has $34 billion in assets, casinos, fiendish henchman, and James Bond on his tail.
Wake me up when the super star Chris Paul shows up
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Rather ordinary line last night (I didn’t watch that game as I was watching Kobe go off). I will be watching Clips tonight though.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 11, 2012 9:33 AM PST up reply actions
Switched over to the Kobe game and caught his 4th quarter act. Rather impressive series of plays against Grant Hill. The knees look great, but not sure the supporting cast is going to be enough this year to do much damage. That is not a very good Sun team they had trouble putting away until that spurt of his in the 4th.
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I agree
They have won seven straight at home, but in pretty much every game they need some late run to put the game away against teams they should wax. That said, I do like the way they play defense.
I do think they eventually give in and trade for Howard near the March 15 trade deadline.
I did crack on Twitter last night that with Grant Hill getting so much praise on defense as he was getting torched by Kobe, it was the most praise given such a defensive performance at Staples Center since Tyrron Lue in Game 1 of the 2011 NBA Finals against Iverson.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 11, 2012 9:39 AM PST up reply actions
I think they need atleast 1 more solid player, and hopefully its a PG… Id love to get Mo Williams from Clips but not sure how. They need to upgrade that PG position though IMO. But thats been an issue for a long time now.
by uschris0304 on Jan 11, 2012 10:19 AM PST up reply actions
yeah exactly. My thinking is Lakers would play enough team defense to cover for him, in exchange for the offense he’d provide compared to Fisher or Blake. He’s still an upgrade as you say. Obviously I’d love a Deron Williams, etc, more so. But if not a star, atleast get an solid upgrade at the position.
by uschris0304 on Jan 11, 2012 10:37 AM PST up reply actions
Is he worse defensively than Derek Fisher? That’s like arguing that Rod Barajas is slow when you have Bengie Molina.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
I think Mo would be perfect because he played under Brown so knows his system, his style. He is very quick which is what we need. He is talented. He is also making 8.5 this year, with a 8.5 player option next season, and Lakers have that 8.9 TPE. So Lakers could trade that and a 1st round pick or so for him? Maybe we should of tried to trade the Clips Odom 1st, he could of stayed in LA and be happy. Maybe Clips would still be interested in the TPE so they could use that for a player at a position they need. With Paul and Bledsoe returning (not sure when) Mo seems expendable, but maybe not, I dont know.
by uschris0304 on Jan 11, 2012 10:51 AM PST up reply actions
Mo would be a great fit for the Lakers but why would the Clippers be interested in making their team weaker and the Lakers stronger since they should for all practical purposed both be in the hunt for best record in the Pacific West? Unless of course you think they should do it for the good of the city
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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 11, 2012 11:00 AM PST up reply actions
No I understand what you are saying and agree. But my theory is they need some depth upfront more then they need MO right? or no? Is Bledsoe hurt, or just not getting PT right now? See I really dont know their exact situation.
by uschris0304 on Jan 11, 2012 11:09 AM PST up reply actions
Ofcourse they could just trade Mo to a team for a bigs depth on their own…. Or maybe they could use that 8.9 TPE and picks to get it, or get a SG they’ll need after this season? I dont know… I know wouldnt happen, just looking for an idea
by uschris0304 on Jan 11, 2012 11:11 AM PST up reply actions
He would be good too… not sure how they could get him… basically im trying to figure out a way they Lakers could get someone with the 8.9 TPE…since they gave away Odom for it, they better use that shit on something….. what sucks is the TPE cant be combined with players, or other TPE, so I dont really see how its useful unless a team is just looking to dump salary. Maybe the Lakers were just dumping salary and wont use it, which would suck.
by uschris0304 on Jan 11, 2012 11:17 AM PST up reply actions
One of Foye, Bledsoe or Mo is going to get traded. Of course, the Lakers have nothing to offer.
by Michael White on Jan 11, 2012 11:09 AM PST up reply actions
I want to see what Morris can do, but yes they need a PG bad.
If Walton is healthy enough to keep playing like last night, the depth will be better than expected at SF/PF once everyone is healthy.
I think Walton played well because it was the Phoenix Suns defense. But still rooting for any Laker to do well.
I’d like to see what Morris can do too, but being a rookie, with this short season (lack of practice time) we may not see much of him this season. I wonder why Lakers didnt go after Nate Robinson on a 1 year veteran deal he got from GS. I think he’d be very useful off our bench.
by uschris0304 on Jan 11, 2012 10:35 AM PST up reply actions
Lets say James Loney is a FA
Which he will be in 2013 right? Well, does he really get more than 7 million?
Seems like because of salary abritration guys like Loney get more than they really should.
His 2012 season will determine his 2013 value
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i understand that
but what my point is if he was a FA this year..does he really get as much as everybody is projecting?
by Dodgerblue8188 on Jan 11, 2012 9:37 AM PST up reply actions
it's like SA
is helping him get a raise is it not?
by Dodgerblue8188 on Jan 11, 2012 9:37 AM PST up reply actions
There is also the caveat that through arbitration it’s just a one-year deal, while he could possibly have gotten a multi-year deal in free agency. But fair point.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 11, 2012 9:40 AM PST up reply actions
Probably not since there’s not too many teams that have money that would get better by adding James Loney.
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by regfairfield on Jan 11, 2012 9:40 AM PST up reply actions
Has that ever stopped MLB from handing out silly contracts?
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Ask Ryan Madson.
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by regfairfield on Jan 11, 2012 9:45 AM PST up reply actions
Angels avoided arb with Kendrys Morales, signing him to a one-year deal. Now the question is how much?
Lukewarm to Longterm Loney...
if he can get $7 million for 2012 what would be reasonable for 3 years? ANSWER…too much!
The settlement of the Fox/McCourt issue opens the door for Fielder (yes I am saying it again…he’s coming to the Dodgers!) Fielder can sign a 3 year $60 million deal and hit the jackpot again in 2015…Dodgers can pay him $15…$20…$25…and he can hang with Kemp.
"rudeness is the weak man's imitation of strength"...Eric Hoffer
Why would Fielder sign a short-term deal that’s worth less in average annual value than he could get on a longer deal?
A short-term deal for Fielder is something like 3/$75 or 3/$80 IMO.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 11, 2012 9:47 AM PST up reply actions
DONE!!!! Oh wait I don’t have the authorization to make such decisions :(
"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"
8 years puts him at 35 when he hits FA again...
3 years puts him at 30 is my short answer
"rudeness is the weak man's imitation of strength"...Eric Hoffer
I don’t think that answers anything actually.
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by regfairfield on Jan 11, 2012 9:51 AM PST up reply actions
He can get more than $20 million per year on a longer deal than 3 years. No reason for him to take less years AND less money.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 11, 2012 9:51 AM PST up reply actions
But the point is, why would he go to three years unless he is getting more than $25M per. There has to be incentive for him to do so.
Let’s spitball on this…who is going to pay him $25 long term or short term? Nationals? Cubs? Marlins?
"rudeness is the weak man's imitation of strength"...Eric Hoffer
He is probably going to end up at $22 or $23m per somewhere for at least 5 years, if not longer.
Why on Earth would he take fewer years and fewer dollars per year?
by Eric Stephen on Jan 11, 2012 9:57 AM PST up reply actions
IMO the market is soft…the big money has been spent…he can do better long term in 2015 while he is still young…time will tell. I would love to see him sign with the Dodgers for more and longer and be forced to admit I was wrong about the $$$
"rudeness is the weak man's imitation of strength"...Eric Hoffer
So the answer to “why would Fielder take less money and fewer years” seems to be because you want him on the Dodgers.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 11, 2012 10:05 AM PST up reply actions
Best signing of the offseason: Mets give an NRI to Scott Kazmir.
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I thought that was refuted earlier, that Matt Eddy misread Kazmar and thought it was Kazmir.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 11, 2012 9:51 AM PST up reply actions
Twitter lied :(
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by regfairfield on Jan 11, 2012 10:00 AM PST up reply actions
Wilpon and Alderson were having a rager last night and when DJ DePo asked what everyone wanted to play, Wilpon yelled KASHMIR!, but Alderson heard Kazmir and here we are.
dick pederson will fix that dude in 15 minutes
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jan 11, 2012 10:05 AM PST up reply actions
If I was Prince I would resign with the Brewers for one year, win the World Series they didn’t win last year, then become a Dodger in 2012. JMO
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I think I’ve said this everytime Prince comes up. Otherwise he’s going to end up signing a long term deal with the Mariners or Nationals and regret it. Unless Texas gets involved but who wants to be playing in Arlington in August for the next eight years. Yuck.
That is what Yu said when he learned the Rangers had won the bidding rights.
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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 11, 2012 10:14 AM PST up reply actions
Might not regret the Nationals. They’ve got a lot going for them.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 11, 2012 10:17 AM PST up reply actions
Washington in August is death. I can still remember Hondo sweating ten pounds simply kneeling in the on desk circle.
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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 11, 2012 10:45 AM PST up reply actions
He would regret the Mariners, but I think he’d like the Nats when Harper and Rendon come up. That offense is going to be nasty in 3 years.
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I'm a little unclear on your point
is it that they aren’t built to compete yet?
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If they were in the West I’d make them favorites if they signed Prince.
East is tough, I expect them to compete for the 2nd Wild Card spot.
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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 11, 2012 11:08 AM PST up reply actions
Harper testing the Marucci Cat 5
Just vicious vicious swings:
by silverwidow on Jan 11, 2012 10:21 AM PST up reply actions
Eat more Twinkies
Just don’t go all Dan White on us:
http://www.latimes.com/business/money/la-fi-mo-twinkie-bankruptcy-20120111,0,3764438.story
by jim hitchcock (railway) on Jan 11, 2012 10:32 AM PST reply actions
Very nice pickup
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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 11, 2012 10:45 AM PST up reply actions
Between him and Josh Lueke the Rays are pretty damn easy to root against.
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by regfairfield on Jan 11, 2012 11:09 AM PST up reply actions
Funny, I thought both Boom Boom and Kotchman had signed with the Pirates
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I’m kinda wondering where some of these guys are going to end up. Derek Lee and Carlos Pena are still out there as well.
Someone has to end up a Brewer
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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 11, 2012 11:26 AM PST up reply actions
About a week ago, I think it was the ESPN NBA Today podcast, talking about 5-5-5-5 games, as in players with 5 rebounds, 5 assists, 5 blocks, and 5 steals in the same game.
The play index on Basketball-Reference shows 14 such games in the last 25 years (they have game logs back to 1986), which features a whole lot of Hakeem Olajuwon. Look at some of these games:
1990 vs. Run TMC: 29 points, 18 rebounds, 11 blocks, 9 assists, and 5 steals
1987 against Seattle: 38 points, 17 rebounds, 12 blocks, 7 steals, and 6 assists, though it was a 2-overtime game
Then, there was Vlade in 1995 against the 76ers: 19 points, 12 boards, 8 assists, 5 blocks, 5 steals. Good times.
Golden State Warriors, Tim Hardaway, Mitch Richmond, Chris Mullen if I remember correctly
by Josie Becker on Jan 11, 2012 11:13 AM PST up reply actions
yes thats it… hmmm, so thats where Run DMC came from? now I get it.
by uschris0304 on Jan 11, 2012 11:14 AM PST up reply actions
Run DMC = 1980s
Run TMC = late 1980s / 1990s
by Eric Stephen on Jan 11, 2012 11:16 AM PST up reply actions
yeah that DMC, im talking about Darren McFadden,….. isnt he called Run DMC? or is that just among a few Raider fans?
by uschris0304 on Jan 11, 2012 11:18 AM PST up reply actions
there was also a fairly famous rap trio called Run DMC in the 80s
by Josie Becker on Jan 11, 2012 11:19 AM PST up reply actions
yeah thats what Eric listed, they were tight too, back then. They couldnt make it in todays rap game.
by uschris0304 on Jan 11, 2012 11:22 AM PST up reply actions
Kids.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
I don’t know what’s wrong with these kids today!
Kids!
Who can understand anything they say?
by Josie Becker on Jan 11, 2012 11:24 AM PST up reply actions
My 1st 2 real rap tapes ever that I got for xmas as a kid were Run DMC, and The Fat Boys….. The 1st 2 CDs I bought on my own as a teenager were Mariah Carey and MC Hammer hahaha, ah man, memories.
by uschris0304 on Jan 11, 2012 11:25 AM PST up reply actions
Then you are well aware that there is no “todays rap game [sic]” without Run DMC.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
sic?
really? cold blooded
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena
Girl, I think you’re so sexy, sexy, sexy
Cold blooded
What more can I say, sexy, sexy, sexy
Cold blooded
by Josie Becker on Jan 11, 2012 11:29 AM PST up reply actions
well yeah, I understand all that. But lets just say there was a rap game even without Run DMC, and then Run DMC just came out today, they wouldnt make it.
by uschris0304 on Jan 11, 2012 11:29 AM PST up reply actions
And then a hero comes along
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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 11, 2012 11:27 AM PST up reply actions
going to guess
Chris Mullin
Tim Hardaway
Mitch Richmond
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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and then there are the 3 known quadruple doubles since 1986 (I would imagine Wilt and Bill Russell had a few)
Alvin Robinson in 1986: 20-11-10, with 10 steals (Robertson was a badass)
Hakeem in 1990: 18-16-10, plus 11 blocks
Mr. Robinson in 1994: 34-10-10, plus 10 blocks
by Eric Stephen on Jan 11, 2012 11:14 AM PST up reply actions
That Hakeem 1987 game is the only NBA player game since 1986 (at least) with at least 7 blocks and 7 steals.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 11, 2012 11:15 AM PST up reply actions
On a basketball kick this morning
Jason Kidd once averaged 8.2 rebounds per game in a season.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 11, 2012 11:18 AM PST up reply actions
Came into my mind because as of this morning LeBron James is averaging 29.7 points, 8.0 rebounds, and 7.6 assists per game (through nine games, still early).
There have only been 20 player seasons before this year with a player averaging at least 7.5 rebounds and 7.5 assists:
Oscar Robertson 6 seasons (first 6 of his career)
Magic 4 (including one 37-gamer)
Fat Lever 3
Wilt 2
Kidd 2
Bird 1
Jordan 1
Darrell Walker 1
by Eric Stephen on Jan 11, 2012 11:23 AM PST up reply actions
Two names I have not heard in years so far this morning Alvin Robinson and Fat Lever
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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 11, 2012 11:24 AM PST up reply actions
Man, you are taking your baseball mindset and applying to basketball, sweet.
by uschris0304 on Jan 11, 2012 11:26 AM PST up reply actions
Going to suck when LeBron suffers a season ending injury tonight when Evans takes ball handling to a new level.
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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 11, 2012 11:29 AM PST up reply actions
yeah maybe DeAndre can fuck up Lebrons wrist like he did Kobes… lets even the playing field here… or court.
by uschris0304 on Jan 11, 2012 11:30 AM PST up reply actions
It wasn’t even that hard a fall.
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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 11, 2012 11:31 AM PST up reply actions
Hakeem Olajuwon might be one of the least regarded all-time greats of the era in which Ive been paying attention to the NBA. Seems like he’s not really talked about much and yet dude was just totally awesome.
Played from the Magic-Bird era into the Jordan era. Overshadowed by bigger personalities/storylines.
Don’t ever underestimate the heart of a champion
by Eric Stephen on Jan 11, 2012 12:50 PM PST up reply actions
Loved Hakeem, loved how he developed his offensive game from the Phi Slama Jama days in College
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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 11, 2012 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
Anyone read the Buster Olney article today that Dodegrs should sign Fielder? haha…. is there more to it other then ofcourse they should?
I heard that of the 13 bids for the team, four of the included provisions to sign Fielder and they would increase their bid by two times the amount of his contract.
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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 11, 2012 11:28 AM PST up reply actions
TBLA playlist
I’ll do the TBLA playlist thing again today. If you don’t know what I’m talking about…
I take suggestions for two (2) songs from each TBLA member who wishes to participate. I will find the songs and create a playlist. Everyone’s first songs will go in the playlist, in order, followed by everyone’s second suggestion (not necessarily in order). I will listen to the songs, no matter their length. But, please, don’t make them super long, annoying songs.
Here is what it looked like last time:
…and go.
Rick James – Cold Blooded
Foreigner – Cold as Ice
by Josie Becker on Jan 11, 2012 11:34 AM PST up reply actions
Oh man, Reg must have suggested the Unbreakable SUCH A GOOD SONG
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena
He didn’t get the full 10 minute experience though!
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by regfairfield on Jan 11, 2012 11:37 AM PST up reply actions
I am currently listening to
pink moon by nick drake
its weener time in my office
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jan 11, 2012 11:36 AM PST up reply actions
one more from me
dancing with mr d – rolling stones
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jan 11, 2012 11:50 AM PST up reply actions
Beck – Earthquake Weather
Fleet Foxes – Montezuma
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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Well my current infatuation with Gojira probably doesn't fit here
hmmmmm
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
“Good to be on the Road Back Home Again” by Cornershop
“Lights” by The Jayhawks (cover of Victoria Williams song)
damn that cornershop song is bitchin
who’s the lady singing at the end? I forget..
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jan 11, 2012 11:38 AM PST up reply actions
hah
album is ‘when I was born for the seventh time’ for cornershop
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jan 11, 2012 11:45 AM PST up reply actions
Which featured the “hit” single Brimful of Asha
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
everybody needs a bosom for a pillow
mine’s on the 45
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jan 11, 2012 11:49 AM PST up reply actions
2 songs of what? current songs, or favorite songs?? IF nothin but a G thang by Dre Dre and Snoop Dogg arent on this list then we got problems. Greatest rap song ever, and completey changed the rap game forever.
by uschris0304 on Jan 11, 2012 11:38 AM PST up reply actions
Don’t over think it, just give him two songs you like.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Jan 11, 2012 11:38 AM PST up reply actions
hmmm, ok
Nuthin but a G thang – Dre Dre and Snoop Dogg
The way I am – Eminem
by uschris0304 on Jan 11, 2012 11:41 AM PST up reply actions
Bond- Duel
Murry Head- One Night in Banghok
by Michael White on Jan 11, 2012 11:38 AM PST up reply actions
Not that I’m aware of. Bond is a female British string quartet
by Michael White on Jan 11, 2012 11:55 AM PST up reply actions
now i’m intrigued
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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 11, 2012 11:56 AM PST up reply actions
White Rose Movement – Girls In The Back
Phoenix – Run Run Run
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by regfairfield on Jan 11, 2012 11:40 AM PST up reply actions
that phoenix song seriously rules
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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Their best one. When I saw them at the Wiltern they did an 8 minute long version that was amazing.
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by regfairfield on Jan 11, 2012 12:01 PM PST up reply actions
Explosions In the Sky – The Birth and Death of the day
Hot Water Music – All heads down
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
I saw the Draft perform in Dublin, they were a lot of fun
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena
TIL of The Draft
I’m pretty new to HWM, but thanks for turning me onto the draft
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
I don’t claim to be a music buff, but I seriously don’t recognize 95% of the artists or songs that have been mentioned.
I was just gonna say the same thing OB… are these underground bands or what?
by uschris0304 on Jan 11, 2012 11:44 AM PST up reply actions
Christmas in Hollis — Run DMC
Funky Cold Medina — Tone Loc
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Misirlou – Dick Dale
Lost in America – The Gathering Field
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Jan 11, 2012 11:44 AM PST up reply actions
The Beatles – She Came In Through The Bathroom Window
Bob Dylan – Subterranean Homesick Blues
by silverwidow on Jan 11, 2012 11:47 AM PST up reply actions
So much for
Echoes and Inna Gadda Da Vida.
by jim hitchcock (railway) on Jan 11, 2012 11:47 AM PST up reply actions
give me the list when it's done
because i would love to have some new music
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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Tom Petty – Southern Accents
Maxi Priest – Close To You
by Eric Stephen on Jan 11, 2012 11:49 AM PST up reply actions
Higher Love – Steve Winwood
In Your Eyes – Peter Gabrielle
I’ve been loving these songs the last few months
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THINK ABOUT IT
THERE MUST BE A HIGHER LOVE
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Uncle Tupelo – Midnight Shift
New York Dolls – Pills
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Ice Cream Man- Van Halen
Raiders March- John Williams
by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Jan 11, 2012 12:27 PM PST up reply actions
ohhh I love Dru Down version of Ice Cream Man.
by uschris0304 on Jan 11, 2012 12:41 PM PST up reply actions
Update: 32 songs so far.
Longest song is Raiders March by John Williams at 10:37. The shortest song is She Came In Through the Bathroom Window by the Beatles at 1:57. A two hour and 24 minute playlist.
That’s a long version. Most are usually 5 min or so
by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Jan 11, 2012 12:36 PM PST up reply actions
i love that you ask for this stuff every once and a while
makes for good conversation
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Damn, I miss Justice
Saw that they’re going to play Coachella. Saw them in ‘08 and thought it was one of the best Electro performances I’ve ever witnessed. Great set.
Newjack by Justice is pretty sweet.
by Julio Nievas on Jan 11, 2012 12:48 PM PST up reply actions
It’s weird seeing comments from posters on this blog on another blog. Just saw your comment on hitfix.
by Michael White on Jan 11, 2012 1:13 PM PST up reply actions
If anyone is looking for great mid price range speakers
These are the shit:
http://www.psbspeakers.com/products/tower-speakers/Image-T5-Tower
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
The black keys-gold on the ceiling
stone temple pilots- big empty
@TElciram
by Taylor Maricle on Jan 11, 2012 2:55 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
shit that gets me pumped up
Three 6 Mafia – Sippin On Some sizzurp
Carcass – Corporal Jigsore Quandary
Stuff i'm listening to thanks to Google Music job (stuff their writers are writing about
and got me listening)
I dig ’em!
Fu—ed Up, David Comes to Life
Snow Patrol, Fallen Empires
Rachael Yamagata, “River”
Sharon Jones & the Dap Kings, “Longer and Stronger”
the National, “Bloodbuzz Ohio”
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Okay, I’ll settle for Pink Floyd – One of These Days, and Jeff Buckley – Hallelujah.
by jim hitchcock (railway) on Jan 11, 2012 11:50 AM PST reply actions
I’ve listened to so many covers of Jeff Buckley – Hallelujah and yet I’d only heard the song for the first time about three years ago from a female Canadian singer. When done right, it simply sends chills down my spine.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Jan 11, 2012 11:59 AM PST up reply actions
Did not mean for Jeff Buckley to get in there.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Jan 11, 2012 11:59 AM PST up reply actions
Video of Buckley’s version:
by jim hitchcock (railway) on Jan 11, 2012 12:18 PM PST up reply actions
Rufus Wainwright’s version is wonderful, also, but Buckley’s cover was the first I heard and the one that stands out to me.
by jim hitchcock (railway) on Jan 11, 2012 12:11 PM PST up reply actions
Someday I should listen to something by Rufus, always thought he had one of the great names.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Jan 11, 2012 12:12 PM PST up reply actions
That one episode of The West Wing where Mark Harmon died, the song was perfectly haunting.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Yeah, was one of the best West Wing’s ever.
by jim hitchcock (railway) on Jan 11, 2012 12:32 PM PST up reply actions
In baseball.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
That should be a
Rule violation on TBLA.
by jim hitchcock (railway) on Jan 11, 2012 11:53 AM PST up reply actions
Did the Dodgers trade Frank Robinson, et al for Andy Messersmith, et al?
by Eric Stephen on Jan 11, 2012 11:54 AM PST up reply actions
I didn’t realize that the DH was used in every game of the World Series in alternating years from 1976 through 1985.
by Michael White on Jan 11, 2012 11:56 AM PST up reply actions
My first full year of watching baseball was 1985; I guess I didn’t notice it at the time but yeah, looking back it can be a little funky.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 11, 2012 11:59 AM PST up reply actions
Google is your friend, uchris.
by jim hitchcock (railway) on Jan 11, 2012 11:54 AM PST reply actions
Google what would give you far too many responses.
by jim hitchcock (railway) on Jan 11, 2012 11:56 AM PST reply actions
haha ok… are you talking about all those bands and songs ive never heard of? nah its cool, im not that big of a music fan… Its something to bump when driving, but thats about it.
by uschris0304 on Jan 11, 2012 12:01 PM PST up reply actions
So when is this Mayweather vs Pacquaio fight going to be announced already?? I really think its going down forsure this time.
I would of used right after Dodgers sign Fielder personally haha…. but thats going to happen too, so good thing you didnt use it.
by uschris0304 on Jan 11, 2012 12:10 PM PST up reply actions
I cant blame you for saying that. But I just got this feeling about it haha. Arum supposedly flew to the Phillippines this past weekend to dicuss for opponents for Manny (none of which are Mayweather) but I havent heard any announcement or anything from Arum since. But then you have the Phillippines paper where Manny says he wants Mayweather. Mayweather calls out Manny, Step Up Punk. I think its being worked on right now.
by uschris0304 on Jan 11, 2012 12:08 PM PST up reply actions
I sure hope so anyways… because if not, then Manny is the punk and scared. I hope not, because I love Manny.
by uschris0304 on Jan 11, 2012 12:09 PM PST up reply actions
and I agree, nice shoes, love how this dude matches.
by uschris0304 on Jan 11, 2012 12:51 PM PST up reply actions
They way I look at it is that after Mayweather saw Pacquiao-Barrera, he knew he can beat Pacquiao. So now he’s calling him out.
and whatever the reason being, lets just do it!… Its up to Pac man now, tell Arum you want Mayweather, and only Mayweather, and its done.
by uschris0304 on Jan 11, 2012 12:49 PM PST up reply actions
You mean Pacquaio- Marquez? The Barrera fight was 5 years ago
by Michael White on Jan 11, 2012 12:48 PM PST up reply actions
I don’t doubt that Mayweather also thought he could beat Pacquaio five years ago too :)
by Eric Stephen on Jan 11, 2012 12:48 PM PST up reply actions
since we were just talking music, this fight would also allow us to see ring intos by Jimi Jamison and 50 cent…. Can it get any better?
by uschris0304 on Jan 11, 2012 12:54 PM PST up reply actions
How much would the PPV be for this fight??
by uschris0304 on Jan 11, 2012 12:56 PM PST up reply actions
I doubt they’ll materially jack the price up. $80 at the most (for HD)
by Michael White on Jan 11, 2012 12:57 PM PST up reply actions
Somebody (I forget who) said it best regarding Mayweather’s feelings on Paq in the past. He knew he’d probably beat Pacquiao, but there was some doubt. Unlike guys like Ortiz, Hatton and Marquez who stood no chance against Floyd.
As for what changed now? It’s possible Marquez cemented Floyd’s opinion that Manny isn’t on his level, but we already knew that Marquez could give Manny problems (they had a draw and split decision in the past.) Maybe Mayweather was concerned that Manny was juicing, hence the line in the sand he drew about blood tests and it’s possible that Manny juiced since the 2 prior fights with Marquez. Really, Paquaio had been superman in the recent years (before the 3rd Marquez fight.)
by Michael White on Jan 11, 2012 12:57 PM PST up reply actions
I like that he has an app on his phone that lets him take pictures from a ceiling camera.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
@HowDeepIsYourLove
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXkvJGpkmhs
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Great news from Fangraphs/Mariners SB Nation blogger David Cameron:
Had my final bone marrow biopsy yesterday. Just got the results – no leukemia to be found. Treatment is officially over.
Settlements
With the new owner not able to negotiate for future TV rights until December 1, and perhaps not receiving any payment until some new agreement takes effect for the 2014 season, it means that the new owner will need to have ready cash available to run the team through 2012-13. I hope that MLB’s investigations of prospective owners takes account of their fiscal means after paying McCourt the sale price and before new TV rights are sold. Are they likely to? To what extent will new owners be able to borrow the money needed to pay operational costs, like McCourt did, and to what extent will MLB be looking for solid means? (I’m sure a lot of owners borrow money.)
It’s possible that these settlements with Fox and MLB may strengthen the case of prospective owners with ready money after sale with MLB. McCourt only cares about getting paid. MLB will/should want more. Is this true, or just wishful thinking on my part? Will MLB be more likely now to reject bids that don’t show this capability, or would they have been looking for this anyway? I hope the new owner does not need to rush to make an extension with Fox. Fox’s only advantage in this settlement would be that the new owner might want to rush to extend TV rights for a few years anyway, to get paid now rather than wait until 2014.
Yes, I’m going to guess that the court and MLB will be looking into the ability to pay operational costs within the first year of ownership.
by Michael White on Jan 11, 2012 1:49 PM PST up reply actions
Sure they could look but in the end
McCourt will want whoever pays him the cash now. Which is what MLB gave him when they gave final approval to him. Plus he gets to negotiate with the approved owner, not MLB.
The creditor’s committee would go ape-shit if a bid was presented which did not have adequate “ready cash” to pay go-forward obligations (since the pre-petition creditors will likely continue to do business with the Dodgers) and the Judge wouldn’t allow that bid.
MLB also said McCourt gets final approval, but MLB has to approve the bid initially (if I understand it correctly) and they aren’t going to accept a bid which is tight on opening liquidity. They won’t want to go through this shit again.
by Michael White on Jan 11, 2012 2:03 PM PST up reply actions
MIke at MSTI talked about this
and I have expressed concern too about the purchase price. There are two things in play here, one is the debt that the new owners take on (and I mean their financing for the purchase). Now, they should have a good idea of what cash they will need to run the franchise in 2012 based on current ticket sales, media deals, etc.
I believe that once the purchase price exceeds $800M, you have to believe that there is a chance they whomever buys the team will need to find some new streams of revenue. Unless they bring a slew of smaller investors who ponying up a couple hundred million cash in reserve.
I wonder if new owners will continue with plans McCourt had for the parking lot area in the outfield?
Some Del Taco convention?
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
by mleadman on Jan 11, 2012 1:59 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Dodgers play 3 meaningless ST games Monday - Wednesday
and then open up on the road in San Diego.
NFL draft isn’t until the end of the month. MLB Amateur draft isn’t until June. Nobody makes trade the last week of ST.
End of Spring Training because Eric Wedge had a big dumb temper tantrum.
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by regfairfield on Jan 11, 2012 2:33 PM PST up reply actions
That is correct yes.
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by regfairfield on Jan 11, 2012 2:36 PM PST up reply actions
My point was
SW would not take off that week just for the chance of any baseball deals going down right before the season not discounting the Bradley deal.
We have any posters in the following locations?
Seattle, Santa Barbara, Berkeley, NYC, Princeton NJ, Chicago, Philadelphia, Oxford UK.
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena
:P
I want to know if I will have Dodger friends
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena
Seattle
Well the old DT days there is Stan in Tacoma.
Santa Barbara – Berkowitz and mintxcore
Berkeley – you have the Bay area group – underdog, dodgersf and old DT pals like Louis, trainwreck etc.
NYC – there are some plus you have JayJaffe and Mike at MSTI
Princeton NJ – can’t think of anyone
Philly – if you include the NY guys
the UK, man the UK is tough it 8 hours ahead so a night game is at 3 AM. But I do I like London and the area so I would come out again to visit that part of the UK
I think BCDB is in NY, and Pure Azure is in Chicago
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Brooklyn specifically. He went reverse O’Malley.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 11, 2012 2:38 PM PST up reply actions
if I end up going to Oxford, all are welcome to visit.
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena
Plus my mom and stepdad are in SB!
and sometimes rent out their backroom. ;)
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
/crosses chicago off list
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena
Minxy is in Santa Barbara, but you didn’t ask for posers :)
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
What is
a PHD program I’m going to enroll in?
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
There’s a personal hygiene joke in there, if anyone wants to make it.
by jim hitchcock (railway) on Jan 11, 2012 2:39 PM PST up reply actions
spot on!
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena
If you go to England
Just don’t give Gary a pen
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Never heard of a school in Oxford. Is it new?
by Michael White on Jan 11, 2012 2:40 PM PST up reply actions
lol?
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena
Yes
You can learn a trade in shoe making.
by jim hitchcock (railway) on Jan 11, 2012 2:42 PM PST up reply actions
600 years
of schooling sniveling Brits
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
more than that, surely….earliest days of Oxford are 1096
by Josie Becker on Jan 11, 2012 2:46 PM PST up reply actions
Someone watches Jeopardy too often
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Yes, as reported above, I’m in Santa Barbara. (Also an excellent Religious Studies PhD program, but you know that. A couple of the faculty there are affiliated with my department as they do ethnomusicology, and maybe some grad students there too.)
I used to correspond a little with an ethnomusicologist. About religion strangely enough.
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FYI
Dodgers pitchers and catchers report February 21. First P&C workout is February 22.
Full squad reports February 27, with first full workout Feb 28.
I ws going to ask
When does the DL report to camp?
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Which is the best time for autographs and pictures
before games but after they are required to report. (I believe March 1st is the deadline, it is in the CBA)
NPUT
http://www.truebluela.com/2012/1/10/2698593/dodger-mvp
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