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Salary Arbitration Eligible Dodgers: Clayton Kershaw

Clayton Kershaw will make a lot of money in 2012.

Classify this one as a good problem to have: Clayton Kershaw is too good for salary arbitration.

The salary arbitration process was built to create a system of compensation for players not yet eligible for free agency, a system built around finding comparable players, in performance and service time. The system wasn't built for truly unique players, the outliers, the incomparable ones. Players like Clayton Kershaw.

There is one truly comparable player to Kershaw, a fellow special circumstance. But we'll get to him in a second.

Kershaw has three years, 105 days of service time, and is eligible for salary arbitration the first time in his career. It's hard to imagine a better launch season than the one from Kershaw in 2011: He was 21-5 with a 2.28 ERA and 248 strikeouts, winning the pitching triple crown and the National League Cy Young Award, and added a Gold Glove for good measure. One way or another, Kershaw is going to make some serious coin in 2012. They only question is, how much?

There is a pretty solid set of five pitchers that I think are roughly comparable to Kershaw. Here are their career numbers heading into their first year of arbitration eligibility.

Pitcher Thru Year Svc Time IP W-L BB K ERA ERA+ WHIP bWAR fWAR Salary
Clayton Kershaw 2011 3.105 716 47-28 278 748 2.88 135 1.173 16.9 17.1 ???
Jered Weaver 2009 3.127 672 51-27 198 546 3.73 120 1.249 14.6 12.9 $4,265
Cole Hamels 2008 2.143 543 38-23 144 518 3.43 132 1.136 10.4 10.8 $4,350
Justin Verlander 2008 3.002 600 46-34 219 477 4.11 111 1.328 8.9 10.7 $3,675
Felix Hernandez 2008 3.060 666 39-36 216 593 3.80 114 1.319 12.4 14.2 $3,800
Dontrelle Willis 2005 2.143 594 46-27 174 451 3.27 125 1.254 11.4 12.3 $4,350

King Felix and Verlander were pitchers on similar paths at this point in their careers, accomplished with the promise of something more ahead. Each would win 19 games the very next year - Hernandez finished second in AL Cy Young balloting, with Verlander third - and each would cash in with five-year contracts worth $78 million and $80 million, respectively, in the following offseason. Hernandez would win the Cy Young Award in 2010, Verlander would win the award in 2011.

Kershaw already has a Cy Young Award.

Star-divide

Weaver stepped into the Angels rotation and started winning from day one, compiling impressive numbers at this point in his career. Cole Hamels did the same, and added the title of postseason hero to his resume by pitching the Phillies to a World Series win in 2008. As a Super Two, Hamels tied the record for highest salary by a first-time arbitration-eligible pitcher, set by Willis three years earlier. Willis was a whirlwind his first few years, and won 22 games in his launch year in 2005, finishing second in the Cy Young voting.

Kershaw won a Cy Young Award, and won 21 games in his launch year, and has career numbers that are better than anyone on this list. Kershaw is going to get paid much more than these five pitchers, but again the question is, how much?

That brings us to the benchmark for Kershaw: Tim Lincecum.

Lincecum, a college pitcher from the University of Washington, was drafted in 2006, the same year as Kershaw, getting picked four picks later by the Giants. Within a year, he was in the San Francisco rotation to stay. In Lincecum's first full season, in 2008, he won the Cy Young Award, and followed that up with another Cy Young Award one year later. Two full seasons produced two Cy Young Awards, giving Lincecum the ultimate negotiating hammer come arbitration time.

Pitcher Thru Year Svc Time IP W-L BB K ERA ERA+ WHIP bWAR fWAR Salary
Clayton Kershaw 2011 3.105 716 47-28 278 748 2.88 135 1.173 16.9 17.1 ???
Tim Lincecum
2009 2.148 599 40-17 217 676 2.90 151 1.151 15.2 18.7 $9,000

Lincecum signed a two-year deal after 2009 worth $23 million, that paid him $8 million in 2010 and $13 million in 2011, with a $2 million signing bonus. For purposes of finding Lincecum's 2010 salary, I have spread his signing bonus across both years of his contract. But no matter how you slice it, Lincecum absolutely obliterated the previous record of $4.35 million for a pitcher in his first year of arbitration eligibility.

That brings us to Kershaw, who has bulk numbers that surpass those of Lincecum in many cases, and one could make a completely reasonable argument that Kershaw has accomplished more than Lincecum and could ask for the moon, and get it.

And they might be right. But I think it will come down to special accomplishments.

Ryan Howard was a Super Two following the 2007 season, meaning he was in the top 17% of players in service time among those with at least two but not quite three years of major league service. That got him an extra-year of arbitration eligibility. He won Rookie of the Year in 2005 despite playing a near-McCoveyan 88 games, then captured the NL MVP award in his first full season, smashing 58 home runs and driving in 149 RBI in 2006. Howard followed up his MVP campaign with another eye-popping season of 47 home runs and 136 RBI in 2007, and went into arbitration looking to get paid.

The Phillies offered a salary of $7 million, which would have been a record for a player of Howard's service time. Howard's camp countered with a request for $10 million. And won. The special accomplishment of Howard's MVP award certainly contributed to his arbitration victory, but there was a thought at the time that Howard's win would artificially skew arbitration salaries upward.

But it hasn't happened. Nobody with anywhere close to Howard's service time has come away with a salary anywhere close to Howard's $10 million. What it did do was skew Howard's salaries higher through his arbitration years, and led to a massive five-year, $125 million extension that is only beginning this year. Howard remains the outlier.

Like Lincecum.

I think Kershaw should and will get paid much more than those first five comparable pitchers I listed above. In fact, I think he will blow them away. But I do think Lincecum leads in the special accomplishment category, that his two Cy Young Awards give him a trump card over Kershaw's one award.

I have thought Kershaw would max out at $8 million in 2012, but let's give him a bonus for his bulk numbers in comparison to Lincecum. I'll guess Kershaw's 2012 salary as $8.5 million, but all it takes is a solid arbitration argument by Kershaw's team and a three-person panel willing to be swayed and he could almost make a case for whatever he wants.

What's your guess for Kershaw's salary in 2012?

Thanks as always to Cot's Contracts, Baseball-Reference, and FanGraphs.

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$8.4 million projection

Eric, I actually have him at $8.4 million in the model I did for MLBTR:
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/10/pitchers-arbitration-salaries.html
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/11/projected-arbitration-salaries.html
The model basically compares him to Tim Lincecum more than anybody else. IP the most important thing for pitchers pretty much, though wins are close. Although the ERA+ pales compared to Linecum, it didn’t seem like that really mattered anywhere near as much as the highly comparable ERA. It’s basically Lincecum’s two Cys to Kershaws’ one vs. Lincecum’s 40 W & 599 IP to Kershaw’s 47 & 716.

by Matt Swartz on Jan 13, 2012 7:07 AM PST reply actions  

Thanks Matt

by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 7:44 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

seems like a fairly easy case to make with the arbitration panel if you’re clayton’s agent.

“The Cy Young is an award that can’t be won based on personal achievement alone. It is won in an environment that changes every season based on the performance of each pitcher’s offense and other pitchers and their offenses, neither of which Clayton Kershaw has any control over. However, if you compare the raw stats that he does control to those of the other elite pitchers in the game, not just the elite young pitchers, you’ll see he rates better than all of them and should be paid as such.”

by G.Scott on Jan 13, 2012 7:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Dodgers could also argue Win% vs Wins. 7 more wins vs 11 more losses.

Since Kershaw has a whole extra year of service time than Lincecum had at that time, I wonder how much those stats matter. The averages of wins and strikeouts for Clayton are lower than Tim’s, even though the overall number is higher now.

by G.Scott on Jan 13, 2012 8:21 AM PST up reply actions  

somebody make this guy a Super Special Assistant to the GM already

by G.Scott on Jan 13, 2012 7:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Xeifrank vs. Alex Tamin

One will crunch the numbers, the other will get NUMBERCRUNCHED!!!!!!!!

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 13, 2012 7:52 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

When my bid to buy the Dodgers is acecpted, I will hire TBLA people to be my front office.

by fbihop on Jan 13, 2012 7:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Can I be Director of Player Development?

by G.Scott on Jan 13, 2012 7:55 AM PST up reply actions  

You will be the Special Assistant In Charge of Putting Out Concession Fires.

by fbihop on Jan 13, 2012 8:03 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m more likely to start concession fires as a means to create job security.

by G.Scott on Jan 13, 2012 8:10 AM PST up reply actions  

But then you’ll also have to work.

by fbihop on Jan 13, 2012 8:11 AM PST up reply actions  

Arbitration

Is still an art since the arbitrator can only accept one side’s figure. My hunch is that they never see the inside of a conference room.

by bhsportsguy on Jan 13, 2012 8:08 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

A look back from January 2010
FYI
I added 2012 to the payroll worksheet. Keep in mind those are just rough estimates and a lot can change in two years (just ask Russell Martin).
by Eric Stephen on Jan 24, 2010 9:30 AM PST via mobile actions

Kershaw
I’m not going to lie…I feel like $4M for Kershaw in 2012 is a little low. If stays on the pace he’s on now, he’ll be getting closer to Lincecum money rather than Billingsley money (even if he doesn’t win 2 Cy Youngs)
by Brandon Lennox on Jan 25, 2010 8:20 AM PST up actions

We don’t really know what Lincecum money is yet, and I don’t see how Kershaw gets to that point anyway. Lincecum is the "there a no comps for this guy" type pitcher particularly because of the 2 Cy Youngs and the fact that his is the best pitcher in the NL. Don’t see how Kershaw would compare closer to Lincecum than Billingsley.
by Michael White on Jan 25, 2010 8:53 AM PST up actions

I’m not saying he’ll get Lincecum money, but rather he’ll be closer to Lincecum than Billingsley in his first year of arbitration. Billingsley got $3.850M and let’s just say that Lincecum ends up with $11M. I really think Kershaw is going to be more comparable to Lincecum than Billingsley over the next two years…and that isn’t even taking into account any increase for salaries in the next two years. Basically I think Kershaw gets at least $6M in arbitration in 2012, and probably even more.
by Brandon Lennox on Jan 25, 2010 9:11 AM PST up actions

Lincecum doesn’t even have three full service years yet (the point Kershaw will be at after 2011). He really is the outlier, and his current Super Two status only adds to that.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 25, 2010 9:36 AM PST up actions

Without a Cy Young award (or two), Kershaw will be relegated to the world of mere mortals for his comparables.

Look at Billingsley, even with a disappointing 2nd half last year, his credentials are still excellent: 47 wins, 119 ERA+. For Kershaw to match that win total, he would have to have 34 wins in the next two years, something no Dodger has done since 1991 (Ramon Martinez had 37 wins from 1990-1991). Like it or not, wins matter in arbitration hearings. Now, Kershaw could get close (Park had 33 in 2000-2001, Penny and Nomo had 32), but the point is, he’s unlikely to be so far and away the Billingsley-Felix-Verlander level that he sets a new precedent in the $6 million range.

Unless, of course, he wins a CYA. But, until that happens, I’m keeping my estimate at $4 million.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 25, 2010 10:18 AM PST up actions

Fair enough
You make good points and it helped me realize that you are right in that Kershaw won’t be getting in the $8M+. However, I think he’ll be good enough over the next two years to get himself in a level beyond Billingsley at the same stage in their career, which would pay him the $6M that I’m guessing. We’ll just have to wait and see!
by Brandon Lennox on Jan 25, 2010 12:14 PM PST up actions

by Brandon Lennox on Jan 13, 2012 8:05 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

haha

there is still a full archive at the bottom of the page, you just can’t search for things that are more than 3 months old I believe. That being said, I’ve always remembered this conversation and remembered the month we had it so it was pretty easy to find

by Brandon Lennox on Jan 13, 2012 8:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Mad and I have resolved to go to more Minor League games this year since it’s basically what we can afford. I’ll let you know when we go so maybe we can carpool. Planning on seeing a bunch of Zach Lee and Garret Gould this season.

by G.Scott on Jan 13, 2012 8:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Fucker had to get exactly 34 wins the last two years. Haha :)

by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 8:30 AM PST up reply actions  

All of your replies were reasonable other then the fact you forgot you were discussing Clayton Kershaw and not Chad Billingsley.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 8:32 AM PST up reply actions  

I’ll say it isn’t that CK loses, it is just that his agent blows the save.

by fbihop on Jan 13, 2012 8:08 AM PST up reply actions  

not enough run support

by G.Scott on Jan 13, 2012 8:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Why is Broxton arguing Kershaw’s arbitration case?

Still chasing the dream of mediocrity

by Humma Kavula on Jan 13, 2012 10:02 AM PST up reply actions  

Fucking Torre.

Still chasing the dream of mediocrity

by Humma Kavula on Jan 13, 2012 10:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Not a fan of Clayton traveling to Africa. At this point I want him in a big bubble only to be opened on Feb 20th. Let Loney travel.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 8:14 AM PST reply actions  

he did it last year

And won the CY

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 13, 2012 8:18 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Then Loney should definitely go to Africa in case he is needed in the bullpen.

by fbihop on Jan 13, 2012 8:19 AM PST up reply actions  

I think this might be Maddz line

HE KISSED THE RAINS, PHIL

HE KISSED THE RAINS

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 8:20 AM PST up reply actions  

I never like my players going overseas, for whatever reason, not even a game.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 8:28 AM PST up reply actions  

I don’t even like them driving themselves

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 8:30 AM PST up reply actions  

I don’t even want Clayton using a salt shaker

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 8:31 AM PST up reply actions  

never punch a drunk with your pitching hand

by G.Scott on Jan 13, 2012 8:32 AM PST up reply actions  

does he have a body guard when he travels to Africa? Has he felt the rains down in Africa?

by Xeifrank on Jan 13, 2012 8:32 AM PST up reply actions  

What if they’re going to get some supersecret surgery that allows them to have the three highest-scoring games in the league?

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 13, 2012 9:07 AM PST up reply actions  

all good, Germany is about to get a flood of visiting athletes.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 9:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Stupid Dwight Howard, ruining that nugget last night.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 9:17 AM PST up reply actions  

I’d been more impressed if had broken the record for free throws made in a game and not simply attempts.

Golden State coach must believe in hack a shitty free thrower since he did it on opening night with Jordan very very early in the 2nd half. I’d think a point guard would understand how that kills the flow of a game, and giving a superior team plenty of rest time at the foul circle might not be the greatest strategy. At 3 – 7 he may want to re-think it.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 9:22 AM PST up reply actions  

that said if I’m playing against a team with Evans on it, how do you not foul him every time he tries to get a free throw. I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a lousier free throw shooter then Evans, or a better rebounder.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 9:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Lakers v Clippers

Looking for love er tickets

have a business associate in town that wants to go

Figured this was a long shot, but I’d ask here before I got raped on Stubhub

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 8:15 AM PST reply actions  

NotJoeTorre’s dad owns a ticket reseller. Hopefully he sees this.

by G.Scott on Jan 13, 2012 8:16 AM PST up reply actions  

i couldn’t believe the cheapest tickets on stubhub were 70 bucks each for 2 at the upper deck end.

by G.Scott on Jan 13, 2012 8:19 AM PST up reply actions  

yeah, and I gotta do much better on a ticket than that

I tried to sway him to the Cleveland game tonight, he wasn’t buying that as being as fun

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 8:21 AM PST up reply actions  

Does

it come out of your pocket or companies? Tax write off? Trying to think of how you can hedge the costs. Maybe stage a hostage taking bank robbery on the way to the game. Tough luck, we couldn’t make it to the game on time type of thing. Help me here.

by Xeifrank on Jan 13, 2012 8:24 AM PST up reply actions  

this one will be all me

I don’t mind either, I just want a good deal

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 8:33 AM PST up reply actions  

My radio says to try sweet jack dot com. Or sweet sweet jack, sweet jack to dom.

by Xeifrank on Jan 13, 2012 8:33 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m going to start calling my plate appearances Sweet Sweet Jack dot com

by G.Scott on Jan 13, 2012 8:34 AM PST up reply actions  

I am so with you on that

too bad I have proven myself to have warning track power when I crush the ball – sucks, damn wood bats.

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 8:39 AM PST up reply actions  

I am a natural dead pull hitter, have taught myself gap to gap power (for me)

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 8:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Thanks. We will play a shift against you in February. We will pull the outfielders in when the mods come up. :)

by Xeifrank on Jan 13, 2012 8:46 AM PST up reply actions  

oh, softball

well, really you should be able to hit the ball pretty much everywhere you want

right?

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 8:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Mike is a big guy

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 8:49 AM PST up reply actions  

To bad you committed to Dodger THoughts based on the fanpost. We have already lost two of those who said they could play SS.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 8:53 AM PST up reply actions  

i can play short, i just like third better

by G.Scott on Jan 13, 2012 8:54 AM PST up reply actions  

see

that is what i was saying too

happy to play either

When is this game again?

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 8:54 AM PST up reply actions  

February something or other.

by G.Scott on Jan 13, 2012 9:05 AM PST up reply actions  

We need an update to see who has paid so we can see what kind of team we have and how many. I only got a few replies to my email and those were mostly from members saying the schedule no longer worked for them, so not sure who is in and who is not at this point.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 9:07 AM PST up reply actions  

I checked

Saturday Feb 11th

I have paid

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 9:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Put me and Gary on the left side – we can cover 3rd / SS in any combo you’d like

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 8:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Phil

I’ve been putting it off because of some bills, but do you know if I can wait till around monday or tuesday to pay the entrance fee?

TBLA 2011 Postseason Prediction Champion

by Ivdown on Jan 13, 2012 9:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes, I expect you can wait until the last minute. The key is that you need the paid email to present so they let you play.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 9:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Like a print out of it? I got your email then one from the other guy (mike I believe?) so I will email him back and let him know i plan to pay once I get paid.

TBLA 2011 Postseason Prediction Champion

by Ivdown on Jan 13, 2012 9:10 AM PST up reply actions  

I think the site has something like a Jan 28th deadline to signup. I would email the guy running the tournament through LFP to find out details of late payments. After you pay you get a confirmation email (receipt) that you are suppose print out and bring to the tournament as proof that you paid.

by Xeifrank on Jan 13, 2012 9:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh ok, cool, thanks

I emailed him letting him know I will be paying within the next 4 or 5 days, so hopefully that should be fine.

TBLA 2011 Postseason Prediction Champion

by Ivdown on Jan 13, 2012 9:49 AM PST up reply actions  

i have no clue if i’ve paid or not. figure i’ll bring cash to the event just in case

by G.Scott on Jan 13, 2012 9:50 AM PST up reply actions  

The link to pay has a list of people who have donated

Also you were copied in the email with me and others saying we have not paid yet (this was last week).

TBLA 2011 Postseason Prediction Champion

by Ivdown on Jan 13, 2012 9:52 AM PST up reply actions  

I’d make sure you can do that before you drive out to West Covina.

by Xeifrank on Jan 13, 2012 10:07 AM PST up reply actions  

You have not paid

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

I didn’t commit to any team. I was placed on DT, my second choice since at the time TBLA had a full roster. I’m happy just to play. Hopefully Jon plays along with a few of his MLB calibur minions over at DT. :)

by Xeifrank on Jan 13, 2012 9:27 AM PST up reply actions  

He’s paid so I hope he plays

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 9:31 AM PST up reply actions  

I would say 90% of my at bats end in either 5-3, 6-3, or 1B through the hole.

by G.Scott on Jan 13, 2012 8:50 AM PST up reply actions  

I would reply here with a comment about what I call Sweet Sweet Jack, but I want to keep my job.

Still chasing the dream of mediocrity

by Humma Kavula on Jan 13, 2012 10:04 AM PST up reply actions  

Sweet Sweet Jack could also be the new mixed drink alcohol out of Tennessee.

by G.Scott on Jan 13, 2012 10:05 AM PST up reply actions  

maple syrup
Sprite
Jack Daniels

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 10:06 AM PST up reply actions  

that sounds like a canadian seven and seven

just replace jack daniels with crown royale

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Jan 13, 2012 10:08 AM PST up reply actions  

rec’d and not even sure why

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 10:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Gonna catch Sweet Sweet Yack at Coachella.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jan 13, 2012 10:09 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

lies, all lies

Even a “bad” AMF is better that most drinks.

TBLA 2011 Postseason Prediction Champion

by Ivdown on Jan 13, 2012 10:19 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m aware of your opinion on the subject, understand it completely, but will continue giving you shit about it anyway.

by G.Scott on Jan 13, 2012 10:22 AM PST up reply actions  

I shall defend it till my blue-ish death by AMF

TBLA 2011 Postseason Prediction Champion

by Ivdown on Jan 13, 2012 10:24 AM PST up reply actions  

This favorite drink of yours is so weird.

by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 10:22 AM PST up reply actions  

It’s like JD defending the apple-tini

by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 10:23 AM PST up reply actions  

As a Scrubs fan I take this only as a compliment :)

Let me ask, have you had an entire AMF before?

TBLA 2011 Postseason Prediction Champion

by Ivdown on Jan 13, 2012 10:23 AM PST up reply actions  

No. Trying somebody else’s was plenty

by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 10:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Just a taste isn't enough

Though I’m sure I won’t convince you

TBLA 2011 Postseason Prediction Champion

by Ivdown on Jan 13, 2012 10:25 AM PST up reply actions  

I will defend girly cocktails until the day I die.

My lady likes girly cocktails and I can get her good and drunk if I make a shaker of girly cocktails and help her finish it.

My first choice? No sir. But often a welcome one.

Still chasing the dream of mediocrity

by Humma Kavula on Jan 13, 2012 10:25 AM PST up reply actions  

It's hard to say an AMF is a girly drink

it is blue, but it has (if it’s made right and not shitty) 4 or 5 types of alcohol in it and is super strong and tasty (again if made right).

TBLA 2011 Postseason Prediction Champion

by Ivdown on Jan 13, 2012 10:28 AM PST up reply actions  

I hate the places that only put one type of alcohol in it (I think when I went to club DV8 in Hollywood they just put Vodka and it wasn’t any good).

TBLA 2011 Postseason Prediction Champion

by Ivdown on Jan 13, 2012 10:29 AM PST up reply actions  

It’s incredibly easy to say AMF is a girly drink.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 10:30 AM PST up reply actions  

it is bright fucking blue and comes with a cherry. the umbrella and tampons are implied.

by G.Scott on Jan 13, 2012 10:33 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

dude its a girly drink

I don’t think you know what a girly drink is defined as. Just get over it.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Jan 13, 2012 10:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Also this

There is nothing wrong with drinking a girly drink. Nothing at all.

HJ likes a Negroni and that is bright red. I like a Sidecar and that is made from Cognac. Just tell everybody that all the ladies seem to like your blue girly drink and you’re fine.

Still chasing the dream of mediocrity

by Humma Kavula on Jan 13, 2012 10:38 AM PST up reply actions  

right

just say you like it and don’t give a shit if someone else cares.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Jan 13, 2012 10:39 AM PST up reply actions  

I don't drink so excuse my ignorance

but really the brightness and color of a beverage is what makes it “girly?” That’s just fucking stupid.

by court168627 on Jan 13, 2012 10:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Considering this whole discussion is kinda stupid, yeah. That said, if we are to accept that a drink can be girly, what else would make it girly other than brightness and color?

Still chasing the dream of mediocrity

by Humma Kavula on Jan 13, 2012 10:41 AM PST up reply actions  

i guess you said.

this whole discussion is kinda stupid.

by court168627 on Jan 13, 2012 10:41 AM PST up reply actions  

a vagina

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Jan 13, 2012 10:42 AM PST up reply actions  

succinctness in action

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 10:42 AM PST up reply actions  

No offense to the ladies, but if I ever find a vagina in my drink, I am not drinking that drink.

Vaginas are vaginas and drinks are drinks and never the twain shall meet.

Still chasing the dream of mediocrity

by Humma Kavula on Jan 13, 2012 10:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Champagne showers baby

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 10:44 AM PST up reply actions  

I get no kick from champagne….

Still chasing the dream of mediocrity

by Humma Kavula on Jan 13, 2012 10:46 AM PST up reply actions  

second favorite frank sinatra karaoke song

by G.Scott on Jan 13, 2012 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

cunnalingus?

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Jan 13, 2012 10:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Don’t be such a prude

by BFDC on Jan 13, 2012 10:44 AM PST up reply actions  

a weak drink?

with umbrellas, lol.

TBLA 2011 Postseason Prediction Champion

by Ivdown on Jan 13, 2012 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

“manly” is drinking it straight. So any drink that maintains the color of the alcohol is on the “manly” side of the spectrum. IMO

by G.Scott on Jan 13, 2012 10:45 AM PST up reply actions  

a penis

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Jan 13, 2012 10:45 AM PST up reply actions  

Sorry

I don’t think you’re more of a man for drinking straight up whiskey when I’m drinking a blue drink that is much stronger

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by Ivdown on Jan 13, 2012 10:57 AM PST up reply actions  

I don't think anyone is more manly then someone else

based on what they drink. True story.

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by nolander on Jan 13, 2012 10:57 AM PST up reply actions  

but what about the guy with that other light beer? Its not a Miller lite

by BFDC on Jan 13, 2012 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

but that doesn't make you less manly

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by nolander on Jan 13, 2012 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

The light beer commercials amuse me

Here’s how it should go:

Hey bro, why aren’t you drinking the same thing we are?

Who cares?

Yeah, you’re right.

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by Ivdown on Jan 13, 2012 11:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Exactly

Whats in the drink matters.

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by Ivdown on Jan 13, 2012 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

for me – Girly is not color but flavor

A Negroni is a bitter bitch with nothing but booze in it. It sucks all the sweet of the world and leaves your mouth ready for food

Girly, for me, is drinks that are overly sweet to cloak the booze, so that you can drop your panties and not feel like a hooker

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 10:40 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

i guess i'll just bite my tongue then

the terms of this discussion just seem so subtley (or not so subtley) gross to me

by court168627 on Jan 13, 2012 10:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Right

This is why Long Island Iced Tea was a “girlie drink” when I was the puppy’s age.


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by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 11:59 AM PST up reply actions  

It's got more of a sweet taste

which is why it could lean that way more. AMFs are much more sour

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by Ivdown on Jan 13, 2012 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

It will fuck you up

not a girly drink. Besides, I don’t a fuck what anyone thinks about it, I will still say it’s not.

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by Ivdown on Jan 13, 2012 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Ok

I don’t care what people think of me drinking it, I drink Mikes Hard Lemonade at parties and love it cause that shit is delicious, lol.

I still argue it’s not a girly drink because that’s my opinion on it.

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by Ivdown on Jan 13, 2012 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m aware of your opinion on the subject, understand it completely, but will continue giving you shit about it anyway.

by G.Scott on Jan 13, 2012 10:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Favorite food: KFC Famous Bowl

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by regfairfield on Jan 13, 2012 10:57 AM PST up reply actions  

One of the cool things about only using the internet and netflix, is I don’t ever see an add for awful fast food ideas.

by G.Scott on Jan 13, 2012 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

the kfc famous bowl is a wonder

of modern engineering. You take that back.

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by nolander on Jan 13, 2012 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

i still don’t know what it is, but I kind of want to try an Iron Shiek.

by G.Scott on Jan 13, 2012 11:02 AM PST up reply actions  

reg posted the recipe brosef

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by nolander on Jan 13, 2012 11:03 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m going to have to ask the master to make the first batch at some point.

by G.Scott on Jan 13, 2012 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Patton Oswalt

Has made me unable to do anything but laugh at them

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 13, 2012 11:04 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

I laugh

I cry
I feast

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by nolander on Jan 13, 2012 11:05 AM PST up reply actions  

I make something called an Iron Sheik

2 parts vodka
1 part midori
Finish with 7up.

This is an incredibly strong drink that’s also bright green and horrifically sweet. It’s girly as all hell.

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by regfairfield on Jan 13, 2012 10:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Having 4 alcohols doesn’t make it stronger.

1 vodka + 1 gin + 1 tequila + 1 whiskey is roughly the same strength as 4x Vodka or whatever.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 13, 2012 10:33 AM PST up reply actions  

And the blue curaçao liqueur is weaker than straight hard liquor.


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by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 12:01 PM PST up reply actions  

My favorite soda is mixing all of them in one cup at the big gulp machine.

Then throwing a couple sugar packets in there.

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by regfairfield on Jan 13, 2012 10:25 AM PST up reply actions  

I see

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by nolander on Jan 13, 2012 10:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Finally, Eric and Tommy can agree on Pepper-related minutia.

Kumbaya!

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by Humma Kavula on Jan 13, 2012 10:31 AM PST up reply actions  

I know

Way to ruin good root beer

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by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 13, 2012 10:32 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Normally I'd say Dr Pepper is the best on it's own

But that combo sounds like it could be great.

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by Ivdown on Jan 13, 2012 10:31 AM PST up reply actions  

i love both on their own.

but combined is a totally different animal. not better or worse, just something new to try.

by court168627 on Jan 13, 2012 10:32 AM PST up reply actions  

root beer + brandy = tastes like robitussin, acts faster than robitussin

by G.Scott on Jan 13, 2012 10:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes, my favorite mix when I indulge in a soda fountain

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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 11:05 AM PST up reply actions  

A friend of mine used to call this “bubble gum soda” (without the sugar packets)

by court168627 on Jan 13, 2012 10:35 AM PST up reply actions  

there you go

my work here is done

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 10:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Odd that Moore County (including Lynchburg) is a dry county.

by jim hitchcock (railway) on Jan 13, 2012 10:14 AM PST up reply actions  

True or False: one of the reasons I could not stand living in Boston was that one cannot buy alcohol on Sundays.

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by Humma Kavula on Jan 13, 2012 10:15 AM PST up reply actions  

It's Twue

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Jan 13, 2012 10:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Bonus true or false: I hold Chick-Fil-A in similar contempt.

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by Humma Kavula on Jan 13, 2012 10:16 AM PST up reply actions  

You can't order a drink

at Chick-Fil-A on Sundays? That’s bullshit

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Jan 13, 2012 10:27 AM PST up reply actions  

False. Chick-Fil-A doesn’t sell gin or fancy cheese

by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 10:31 AM PST up reply actions  

you are a baller HJ, what does price matter? Then you can brag about how much you spent on them all game haha

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 8:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Best business strategy when taking a partner/client out to an event: they already know the tickets are expensive, don’t mention it, not even once. They’ll appreciate the gesture and won’t have to feel like you’re suggesting they owe you something. They already want to do business with you or they wouldn’t be there.

by G.Scott on Jan 13, 2012 8:31 AM PST up reply actions  

yes and yes

and for the record, I hate paying full price for anything, and always love a bargain.

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 8:32 AM PST up reply actions  

as you know, second best business strategy is taking them to somewhere that they know the ticket is expensive, but that you got a deal on, and not telling them you got a deal.

by G.Scott on Jan 13, 2012 8:33 AM PST up reply actions  

If you get anything less the three times they paid for the ticket on Saturday, you got a bargain.

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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 8:34 AM PST up reply actions  

You call it a bargain

the best you ever had?

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by Ivdown on Jan 13, 2012 9:06 AM PST up reply actions  

yes I know I was kidding. But seriously, if you have the money, then why stress on finding deals?? Its like the episode where Kourtney Kardashian joined a coupon club…. I find it insulting that anyone with that kind of money uses coupons.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 8:35 AM PST up reply actions  

What is the old phrase? A fool and his money are soon parted?

by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 8:36 AM PST up reply actions  

dude, I was raised in the Granada Gardens on Chatsworth and Hayvenhurst streets, that was HUD housing. Nice projects, in a nice suburban neighborhood, but government low income housing none the less

The only silver spoon I ever saw had Erin Grey in it

I have never, and hopefully will never, ever, stop looking at prices

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 8:38 AM PST up reply actions  

its all good man, but in this case this is a hot game, and will be hard to get a good deal on…. its a saturday night too, alot of people want to go to this game. But I hope you find something.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 8:41 AM PST up reply actions  

You arent as rich as the Kardashians though are you? or are you? Dam if you do, congrats.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 8:42 AM PST up reply actions  

In no way would I call myself rich at all

I ain’t poor, but far from rich, and miles and miles away from wealthy

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 8:43 AM PST up reply actions  

low income in aliso viejo

is considered basically anything below 50k. Wat.

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by nolander on Jan 13, 2012 9:02 AM PST up reply actions  

yeah this is a big game in LA I guess… Its gonna be an expensive ticket forsure.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 8:26 AM PST up reply actions  

The Lakers were looking for Love too, apparently.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Jan 13, 2012 8:26 AM PST up reply actions  

I’d say try the Ticketmaster Exchange where season ticket holders resell their tickets but it seems to be down at the moment. Usually better prices then Stubhub.

My partner has all four tickets this Saturday so I can’t help you.

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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 8:27 AM PST up reply actions  

http://tinyurl.com/7h85ukd

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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 8:40 AM PST up reply actions  

thx Phil – right now better seats cheaper on Stubhub

strange

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 8:49 AM PST up reply actions  

I’d say this is the highest prices any Clipper resellers has ever gotten including the Sam Cassel playoffs. Tis a shame because most of the buyers are Laker fans so it won’t really be a home game for the Clippers. Nothing more deflating then hearing Kobe MVP chants when he’s on the line at your home game.

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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 8:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Nothing quite like playing it on the Lakers home court and hearing dead silence as you make a late run either.

by G.Scott on Jan 13, 2012 8:53 AM PST up reply actions  

?

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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 8:54 AM PST up reply actions  

It’ll happen. lol

by G.Scott on Jan 13, 2012 8:55 AM PST up reply actions  

pretty much… I dont like it that they share Staples and I’d prefer Clips move to the pond…. What do you think Phil?

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 9:08 AM PST up reply actions  

We have a pool and a pond. The pond would be good for you.

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 9:09 AM PST up reply actions  

If they want to lose me as a fan they can move to the pond. I live in LA not Orange County.

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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 9:09 AM PST up reply actions  

love doesn’t not know borders Phil

lines on a map don’t mean lines in our hearts

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 9:11 AM PST up reply actions  

maps are more about time than place. discuss.

by kinbote on Jan 13, 2012 9:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Einstein told me that time and space are the same thing.

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by Humma Kavula on Jan 13, 2012 10:06 AM PST up reply actions  

Just like mass and energy.

Someday, somebody will tell me that time and space and mass and energy are all the same thing, and I’ll be like, “I KNOW!!”

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by Humma Kavula on Jan 13, 2012 10:07 AM PST up reply actions  

too much education in this thread

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 10:10 AM PST up reply actions  

since you went there

we got our fill of dark sarcasm around these parts too

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 10:16 AM PST up reply actions  

I was told that there would be no math!

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Jan 13, 2012 10:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Whatever, I love my Staples seats, if they simply became a team to watch on TV, they might as well be the Saint Louis Rams, and fuck them.

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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 9:12 AM PST up reply actions  

I’d still be a fan if they moved to Orange County or San Diego since I’d still be able to watch on TV (though I’d probably have to pay for League Pass if they went to SD) and go to the occasional game. If they moved to Seattle, I’d move on.

by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 9:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Moot point, we have already documented how much DTS loves the team in LA and has zero interest in having to watch his team play in Orange County. Say what you will about DTS he is a LA man and enjoys the LA world.

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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 9:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Agreed, completely moot point. DTS isn’t going anywhere.

Just playing out the hypotheticals.

by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 9:20 AM PST up reply actions  

The people of Brooklyn are divided on that opinion.


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by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 12:06 PM PST up reply actions  

yes! I love that OC hate! But honestly, it doesnt bother you seeing Laker jerseys and banners hanging in a place that is suppose to be your home court? I wouldnt like it… I know other teams share stadiums, but IMO every pro team should have its own arena, stadium, etc…..

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 9:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Actually reusing weed is what we call resin and you get this by scraping out your pipe with a paper clip, or whatever works…. but its black, not green…Still, its a great way to get high when low on cash. I havent done that in awhile though.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 9:15 AM PST up reply actions  

weed are the players, pay salaries for enjoyment, but ultimately they are transient and consumable

Stadiums are pipes (or smoking device of your choice) the question is – why not use the same pipe to smoke as much weed as possible rather than requiring each new baggie of buds to have its own pipe

multi-use facilities in population dense areas are the only way stadiums pencil out at all

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 9:18 AM PST up reply actions  

In the weed smoking community, new pipes and bongs are like cell phones, you always want to newest one… Why get 3G high, when you can now get 4G high?

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 9:25 AM PST up reply actions  

On the one hand, banners everywhere.

On the other hand, a billion dollar investment and moving 30 miles south (when I already live north of LA.)

Ya, I’ll take the banners.

by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 9:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah for you the move to Anaheim would be a shitty thing during the times that you would need to drive on the freeway.

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by Ivdown on Jan 13, 2012 9:16 AM PST up reply actions  

haha dont get so technical about it man… im not trying to ruffle any feathers here, im honestly asking.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 9:17 AM PST up reply actions  

If you think your own arena is that important, why shouldn’t the Lakers move? After all, Clippers have been in downtown longer while the Lakers were playing in that shit box in Inglewood.

by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 9:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Dennis Weaver would slap you in the face right now if he were here.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 9:19 AM PST up reply actions  

hahaha Lakers move… that was a good one…. It was built for us… If their was no Lakers, there would be no Staples Center, and you guys would just have to remodel the Sports Arena

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 9:24 AM PST up reply actions  

If there was no Lakers, everybody in LA would be a Clipper fan, so…..

I don’t you think you thought this through.

by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 9:25 AM PST up reply actions  

If Clippers win the Pacific Division this year, but nothing else, will they raise a Pacific Division banner? Some teams do that.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 9:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Good Question, I think they would.

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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 9:33 AM PST up reply actions  

shit box in Inglewood? Still way better then the Sports Arena…. How long did it take the Sports Arena to get something as simple as a jumbrotron in there building??

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 9:26 AM PST up reply actions  

The Sports Arena was the worst building I’ve ever watched a basketball game in but as a Clipper fan it had some charm. When you can scream and be heard because there are only 5,000 fans, you can do some real heckling.

I loved the Forum. The band was close so it could be heard, the seats were close, I hated driving there and leaving. I’m glad the Lakers are in downtown LA.

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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 9:30 AM PST up reply actions  

yeah thats along time ago… I only went there a few times as a kid. One of the games happened to be the day of the riots too… was pretty crazy… I went to sports arena too, when Wilkins and Spud Webb were on the Hawks… just remember no jumbrotron… The coliseum didnt have one either last time I went. Weird to keep forgetting there is no big screen when looking to see a replay.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 9:33 AM PST up reply actions  

No it does not bother me. I love everything about Staples. The easy parking, the food, the Time Square vibe they are giving it, easy access out, metro links. All good

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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 9:14 AM PST up reply actions  

How do you feel about Green Eggs and Ham

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 9:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Resin Eggs?

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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 9:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Anaheim isn't that far

Plus the Honda Center is pretty nice

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by Ivdown on Jan 13, 2012 9:12 AM PST up reply actions  

It’s incredibly far.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 12:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Not even

I make the drive once a week, sometimes twice. Just put on some music and you’ll be there in an hour with good traffic, and an hour and a half with bad traffic.

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by Ivdown on Jan 13, 2012 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Depends where you live, right? And if it is weekday typical LA traffic or not.

by Xeifrank on Jan 13, 2012 1:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Dude, I’m just riffing off Moneyball.


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by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 1:18 PM PST up reply actions  

:( I still haven't seen it

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by Ivdown on Jan 13, 2012 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

What’s not to love about having to drive an additional hour to see a game?

Really, whatever makes you happy Chris

by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 9:11 AM PST up reply actions  

Crowd was very loud in support of the Clippers on Wednesday night. The team has something like 15-17 straight sellouts, and will probably sell out every game this year.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 9:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Yea, but still a ton of Heat fans. Even against the Bulls on opening night, the Bull fans were louder then the Clipper fans.

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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 9:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Anyone planning on coming out to Albuquerque to watch a game?

Bueller? Bueller?

by fbihop on Jan 13, 2012 8:29 AM PST reply actions  

Would wouldn’t want to watch the old timers Van Slyke, Russell, Silverio, and Castle hit eight home runs a game?

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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 8:30 AM PST up reply actions  

yeah, especially when we can wait to just see the big league team in April.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 8:30 AM PST up reply actions  

Did he re-sign? I forgot to check.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 8:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Can’t see how he’d have any room to play this year for the Isotopes. Not with the aforementioned four and Galvez probably seeing time.

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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 8:33 AM PST up reply actions  

i don't think he did

read he was still a minor league free agent the other day

by Brandon Lennox on Jan 13, 2012 8:35 AM PST up reply actions  

I did also.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 12:09 PM PST up reply actions  

i might come out again this year

my wife’s dad might be filming a movie in Albuquerque in the next few months which would be a great excuse to go out there

by Brandon Lennox on Jan 13, 2012 8:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Brandon’s wife: Constance Spielberg

by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 8:37 AM PST up reply actions  

ha ha

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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 8:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Looks like he doesn’t have much of a chance to make the big league team.

The 31-year-old Lebron spent the 2011 season within the Royals’ system, appearing in 32 games between tours with Double-A Northwest Arkansas and Triple-A Omaha. Lebron went a combined 4-2 with a 3.02 ERA over 65 2/3 innings, in which he struck out 72 and walked 31. Lebron did not play professionally from 2007-10, but he has previous experience in the organizations of the Rangers, Reds and Cubs.
He can, however, hit two free throws in a row in the last two minutes of a game.

by fbihop on Jan 13, 2012 8:49 AM PST up reply actions  

I love any article about how great kershaw is :)

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by Ivdown on Jan 13, 2012 8:52 AM PST reply actions  

Steve Blake's wife

on Twitter:

Woke up this morn to the the boys running down the hall “let’s go see if daddy’s rib is still sticking out!!” they’re fascinated by it. lol

by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 8:59 AM PST reply actions  

don't love this

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Jan 13, 2012 9:03 AM PST up reply actions  

sorry

a little surly this AM

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 9:03 AM PST up reply actions  

if it wasn't you it woulda been marty

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Jan 13, 2012 9:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Hey!

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Jan 13, 2012 10:22 AM PST up reply actions  

what

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Jan 13, 2012 10:24 AM PST up reply actions  

hey is it true at the bowl game Penn St was in they had little teddy bears called pedabear or something? haha thats fucked up.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 9:09 AM PST up reply actions  

love this

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Jan 13, 2012 9:03 AM PST up reply actions  

Great article

I don’t know what will happen with Kershaw. I would love to maintain our history of good faith with CK. I don’t know how a settlement on this year’s salary would affect the arbitration market/CK’s future/etc., but I’d like to see a one-year deal as a precursor to a mammoth one next offseason (or earlier if a new owner comes soon). With all the uncertainty about ownership, I’m looking at next offseason as the time to lock him up. Priority #1 and #1A.

by kinbote on Jan 13, 2012 9:10 AM PST reply actions  

At this time next year, Clayton Kershaw will be locked up for a good long time.

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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 9:11 AM PST up reply actions  

Nice synergy with one of the potential new owners.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 12:12 PM PST up reply actions  

That does seem like the play. Hopefully there’s an agreement this year which buys LAD some time to flush out the ownership issues and then CK can be locked up and set for life.

by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 9:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Phil

Mannix
McCloud
McMillian and Wife

Which M detective series is the best?

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 9:24 AM PST reply actions  

In that order

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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 9:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Does Man From Uncle count as a M detective, because if so they top my list. Strictly nostalgia, I have not seen that show in 40 years at least but I loved it as a kid.

To top it off I was taught how to scuba dive by Illya Kuryakin’s son back in 1985.

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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 9:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Scarecrow and Mrs. King.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 9:27 AM PST up reply actions  

you were born too late

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 9:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Mannix

I used to pretend I was MannixI as I would roll down hill and come up shooting.

by bhsportsguy on Jan 13, 2012 9:52 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Macguyver

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 13, 2012 9:31 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Where's Matlock?

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by Ivdown on Jan 13, 2012 9:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Millenium

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by nolander on Jan 13, 2012 9:51 AM PST up reply actions  

I was also

A Magnum P.I. fan

by bhsportsguy on Jan 13, 2012 9:53 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

who wasn't?

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Jan 13, 2012 9:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Murder She Wrote

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 13, 2012 9:59 AM PST up reply actions  

stealing my ideas I see!

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by Ivdown on Jan 13, 2012 10:20 AM PST up reply actions  

yours was the weird spin-off to Matlock and started with a W

by G.Scott on Jan 13, 2012 10:22 AM PST up reply actions  

lmao

I think “Where’s Matlock” would be a better show than regular Matlock

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by Ivdown on Jan 13, 2012 10:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Mannix

which also had the best theme song.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 12:13 PM PST up reply actions  

I test drove a Subaru Brat that Mike Conners owned at one time. Before we decided to buy a new one in 1982.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 12:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Staples Center workers get Sunday to rest

Saturday night’s Lakers/Clippers showdown ends a string of 17 consecutive days with at least one sporting event at Staples Center.

From December 29 through Saturday, there will have been 18 games in 17 days, with 7 Lakers home games, 6 Kings home games, and 5 Clippers home games.

But after Sunday, Monday’s MLK holiday brings two more games to Staples, with the Clips/Nets in the afternoon and Lakers/Mavs at night.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 9:32 AM PST reply actions  

Helps make up for lost wages in Novemeber/December

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 9:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Neither one of us can spell November?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 9:40 AM PST up reply actions  

parking attendants must be happy. all those reporters who interviewed them when they were sad should do followup articles

by Josie Becker on Jan 13, 2012 9:33 AM PST up reply actions  

just Subway sandwiches.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 9:35 AM PST up reply actions  

The guys in the lot I go to

Were still working. Just not as many cars. The real hurt was felt by local bars and restaurants.

by bhsportsguy on Jan 13, 2012 9:55 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I wonder if alot of those workers also work at Dodger Stadium… otherwise what do you do in the offseason? Or are these mostly side jobs for people?

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 9:35 AM PST up reply actions  

basically a side job it is not economically sustainable for it to be your only source of income as a breadwinner, but does work as a great part time gig for students or second job for others.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 9:37 AM PST up reply actions  

thats what I meant to say, a 2nd job.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 9:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Staples Center has its own dedicated security and customer service staff, so those aren’t employees of another security staffing company like CSC. They work every Staples event. That doesn’t, however, keep them from working other jobs on the side on non-Staples event days, you’re right.

by G.Scott on Jan 13, 2012 9:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Food concessions at both DS and Staples are run by Levy and they employ the concessions workers. I know someone who works for them; she works food concessions at both places and was definitely affected by the NBA strike.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 12:16 PM PST up reply actions  

And she has other jobs as well.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 12:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Any Friday the 13th movies on tonight? I hope so.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 9:39 AM PST reply actions  

Part V is a fave of mine for some reason.

by OB12 on Jan 13, 2012 9:43 AM PST up reply actions  

ah, Corey Feldman fan? yeah thats a cool one…. I also like the one where they dig up Jason in the beginning, and start stabbing him with some kind of iron rod, leave it in him, then a bolt of lighting strikes it bringing Jason back to life haha

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 9:47 AM PST up reply actions  

I had forgotten about the Lakers’ very odd series with Cleveland last year. They beat the Cavs by 55 in Los Angeles, nearly becoming the second team ever to double another team (112-57), then one month later lost by five in Cleveland not shortly after the Cavs snapped their 26-game losing streak (by beating the Clippers)

by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 9:40 AM PST reply actions  

The Clipper / Cav game was a nail biter if I remember correctly.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 9:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Couldn’t have been long after that we made the stupid trade cause I’m pretty sure Mo was on the Cav’s when we played em.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 9:42 AM PST up reply actions  

is that the Mo for lottery pick trade?

by G.Scott on Jan 13, 2012 9:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah they basically traded the #1 overall pick and B Diddy for Mo Williams….

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 9:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Looking back now, could have kept that pick, drafted Irving, and amnestied B Diddy… Not need to trade for Paul, still have all those players they traded, plus Irving, with a amnestied B Diddy, and still have their own and Wolves 1st round pick.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 9:52 AM PST up reply actions  

But no way to know that back then.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 9:52 AM PST up reply actions  

They would have still traded Paul and it would have been Irving instead of Aminu going to New Orleans.

by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 9:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Think so? I dont know… If Clips have Irving I dont think they trade for Paul.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 9:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Best PG in the NBA in his prime vs. a rookie?

It’s a no-brainer.

by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 9:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah with a bum knee… Paul is still one of best PG in NBA, but alot of people think he isnt as good as he was before the injury. You may be right. But will Clippers age, id rather have Iriving, with Gordon at SG, keeping the depth, and continuing to add to it since Griffin is so young.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 9:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Clippers didnt seem very aggressive in going after Paul after they found out the price…. then after the Lakers deal was rejected, decided to get back into it. But seemed like they had some doubts about doing it, so seems to be Clippers have Iriving, they forsure dont get back involved… However, if Clippers had Irving to trade, it may not have cost much more other then Irving to make the trade, so you may be right that they still do it anyways.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 10:03 AM PST up reply actions  

Are you under the impression that Irving is the next Michael Jordan or something? He was the first pick in a historically weak draft (due to the lockout) and was injured in college. That’s not the kind of guy you say, “fuck it, I don’t need Chris Paul” and it’s not the guy that the Hornets say, “we don’t need Eric Gordon in this deal after all.”

Irving may end up being great, but this wasn’t Lebron James entering his rookie season.

by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 10:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Rational decision makers don’t make calls based on 2.8% chances.

There is no way the February 2012 Clippers could have possibly planned for having Kyrie Irving without it being a total guess and dumb luck.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 10:01 AM PST up reply actions  

Isnt that what im saying?? I am saying there is no way Clippers could have expected it to be a #1 pick… I agree with you Eric, so the trade was a good move for the Clippers at that time….. However, now that everything has played out, Clippers dont make the trade, they have # 1 pick, and later could have just amnestied B Diddy. So what im saying is true with hindsight, but I agree with you that it was impossible to know any of that then, or think that pick would become the # 1 pick.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 10:06 AM PST up reply actions  

you seem to be taking my comments as in the Clippers should have known it was going to become a #1 pick, but im not saying that at all… or that im saying Clippers made a mistake…. and im not, im just saying what could have been had that trade not been made, for whatever reason.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 10:07 AM PST up reply actions  

I assume almost all of your Clippers comments came be summed up as “LOL Clippers”

by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 10:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Mike, im not a Clippers fan, so it doesnt matter to me. Im just talking about building a dynasty, a power house. Even with Paul, this team is no sure thing to win this year, or next, and after that, who knows where Paul goes… and this is just for convo sake since Clippers didnt have that #1 pick. So they made the right move…. But if they DID have the #1 pick, no I dont think Irving is Lebron, but he is 19 compared to 26 or whatever Paul is

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 10:13 AM PST up reply actions  

You would have a 23 Jordan, 22 Griffin, 23 Gordan, 19 year old Irving… you still have all your picks, Kaman for depth, … plus with all those young players making not much, then you go for Howard maybe… Jordan, Kaman, and both 1st round picks…

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 10:15 AM PST up reply actions  

anyways, whatever, thats Clipper problems, not my problem… just having fun making conversation…its ok to disagree

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 10:16 AM PST up reply actions  

I’ve sat around for a long time with the Clippers trotting out young bullshit saying, “imagine how good they’l be when….” and it never works out. I’d kind of like to win some basketball games at some point, and that’s what they did. This is classic one in the hand vs. two in the bush. The Clippers have never put a team on the floor like they do now and you think there’s logic to passing that up for the chance that they are even better in the future?

by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 10:15 AM PST up reply actions  

ok thats fair enough… yeah see im not a Clipper fan so I dont see things from that angle, but makes sense.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 10:21 AM PST up reply actions  

Gotcha. That’s how I was reading them.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 10:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Would they have been better though? I guess between the amnesty money and guys not traded for Paul, they could have tried to swing a trade for Howard instead.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 13, 2012 10:10 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m glad they didn’t. I really like DeAndre Jordan and Chris Paul is a better playmaker for Griffin while still being able to contribute top notch offense by himself.

by G.Scott on Jan 13, 2012 10:11 AM PST up reply actions  

I think things have worked out very nicely for the Clips. If they could swing a trade of Mo for a 6th-man-type shooter (I’m thinking like of sort of vintage Dell Curry, but can’t think of who fits that bill today), they’d be almost perfect.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 13, 2012 10:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Mo already is a 6th man-type-shooter. The only issue I can see with Mo is that he’s small, but he’s just fine as a scorer.

I do think they’ll end up trading one of Mo, Foye or Bledsoe to round out the rotation. I’d go after a combo 2/3 so Ryan Gomes never has to enter a basketball game. Not sure if that’s what you meant by 6th man type.

Really, JR Smith would be perfect (basketball wise) once his China contract is up.

by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 10:20 AM PST up reply actions  

If they traded Mo and Foye to Dallas for Lamar, it’d be sweet justice.

by G.Scott on Jan 13, 2012 10:24 AM PST up reply actions  

While funny, I’m pretty sure neither Lamar nor Clippers fans would be too happy with a reunion.

Can Odom even play the 3 anymore?

by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 10:26 AM PST up reply actions  

I remember Lamar on the Clippers, but wasn’t fan enough to remember any drama. I think he’s someone the city likes and someone that could rotate in behind Griffin and DeAndre (who is the backup PF/C anyway?).

by G.Scott on Jan 13, 2012 10:32 AM PST up reply actions  

He left Clippers for Miami as a restricted FA… begged Clippers to not match the offer sheet if I recall… might have even said some bad stuff about Clippers… Bridge might be burned.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 10:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes, fuck Odom

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 11:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Evans. Evans is a monster rebounder (like, arguably the best in the NBA), but that’s about it while Lamar is still a top talent in the NBA, at least he was last year. Heck, I’d get him more PT than Jordan anyway because he’s a better player.

He whined his way out the door after he lost his starting PF job to Brand and the Clippers concluded he couldn’t play SF (they kept Brand and Maggette who along with Odom were all RFAs the same year.) He also said leaving LAC was like getting out of prision or something like that.

by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 10:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Houston is in last place already, what about budinger?

by G.Scott on Jan 13, 2012 10:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Eh, probably wouldn’t give up more than Foye and I don’t think Houston takes that.

by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 10:44 AM PST up reply actions  

or like Chris Singleton in WAS.

I’ll stop, I’m treading into deep waters here.

by G.Scott on Jan 13, 2012 10:47 AM PST up reply actions  

I will say I think Caron Butler fits this team pretty well.

by G.Scott on Jan 13, 2012 10:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Didn’t Kaman say something similar recently?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 13, 2012 10:44 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

wait, so are you not a Laker fan? Because your profile says so…. I dont like false advertising man haha

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 10:26 AM PST up reply actions  

I don’t dislike the Lakers. I’ve been a Lakers fan since Eddie Jones and Nick van Exel, but this Clippers team is exciting and entertaining and I’m rooting for them to do well.

by G.Scott on Jan 13, 2012 10:30 AM PST up reply actions  

shit, so you are a casual fan. You like bball but it isnt baseball to you. You dont switch to the Angels because they are more exciting atleast right?

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 10:32 AM PST up reply actions  

I like both Dodgers and Angels, and both Lakers and Clippers. Of course I live and die more with the Dodgers and Lakers but consider myself a fan of all four teams and have for a long time.

by Xeifrank on Jan 13, 2012 10:34 AM PST up reply actions  

That should be against the law…. Dont tell me you like USC and UCLA too ha

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 10:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes, I like both USC and UCLA. No allegiance to either school and don’t live in greater LA area.

by Xeifrank on Jan 13, 2012 10:37 AM PST up reply actions  

so you are just a true all LA sports fan…. the kind that likes ALL LA sports teams, instead of just 1 LA team in every sport…. not my style but thats cool man…. cant be upset with someone that loves LA.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 10:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Yep, like em all. I am happy when any team from SoCal makes the NCAA tournament whether it is one of the Cal States, private colleges or UCs. They are all representing SoCal.

by Xeifrank on Jan 13, 2012 10:43 AM PST up reply actions  

but you have to want to kill all other sports fans

or you aren’t a true fan(read: douchebag)

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Jan 13, 2012 10:37 AM PST up reply actions  

well, you dont have to kill them.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 10:37 AM PST up reply actions  

you pass

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Jan 13, 2012 10:40 AM PST up reply actions  

I wont say nothing, but you guys are why we have this rep as fairweather fans…. but I am big on rivalries, cross town rivalries… People say there isnt much of a rivalry until the teams play eachother in postseason, but whatever.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 10:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Fairweather? We are all commenting on the blog of a team that hasn’t won a championship in 20+ years and is currently in bankruptcy.

by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 10:45 AM PST up reply actions  

true, but isnt switching teams depending on who is doing better, or more exciting, also fairweather? maybe not… its all good man, dont trip. and I wasnt talking about you, or everyone.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 10:48 AM PST up reply actions  

YOU ROOT FOR BOTH TEAMS WHETHER THEY ARE GOOD OR NOT

OKEY DOKEY

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Jan 13, 2012 10:49 AM PST up reply actions  

yeah true, my bad, my mistake, sorry.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 10:50 AM PST up reply actions  

everyone gets to be the kind of fan they want to be, thats the beauty of life… or living in america I guess.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 10:49 AM PST up reply actions  

He’s out back doing lines with Bill Murray

Still chasing the dream of mediocrity

by Humma Kavula on Jan 13, 2012 10:50 AM PST up reply actions  

My thoughts exactly!

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 13, 2012 10:50 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

I'm not accusing you of this Chris

But I’d rather be thought of as fair weather than a thug who beats up other teams fans.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 13, 2012 10:46 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Congratulations as a Dodger fan you get to be both.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jan 13, 2012 10:47 AM PST up reply actions  

I have never beat up or touched another teams fan before, or anyone at all period, ever in my life.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 10:50 AM PST up reply actions  

as I said

Not accusing you of it. I’m just saying I’d rather have one perception as a fan opposed to another.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 13, 2012 10:52 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

+1, the only only change for me is instead of my ranking being
Dodgers
Lakers
Angels
Clippers
a decade ago it is now

Dodgers
Clippers
Angels
Lakers

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 11:09 AM PST up reply actions  

hell for most of the last 7 or so years i’ve rooted for the Chargers simply because they were the most local and I was too young to have been a Rams or Raiders fan.

by G.Scott on Jan 13, 2012 11:11 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m young. I know nothing. In high school I was a Vikings fan because I like Daunte, Moss and Carter.

by G.Scott on Jan 13, 2012 11:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Dead to Phil, Dave, probably H.Joe and BH

by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 11:13 AM PST up reply actions  

I don’t understand this one. I only know of HJs Steelers love

by G.Scott on Jan 13, 2012 11:15 AM PST up reply actions  

perhaps he’s referring to that 10 year period where the Vikings and Steelers were in the same league before the merger

by Josie Becker on Jan 13, 2012 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

I lumped him in as a Rams fan in the 1970s. Brain fart.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Fuck the Vikings

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Jan 13, 2012 11:16 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Fuck Joe Capp and Fran Tarkenton and small fucking quarterback hands.

And that Dallas Navy Staubach prima donna

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 11:19 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Chuck Foreman was my favorite football player in the 70s.

by Xeifrank on Jan 13, 2012 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

I respected the Vikiings. But I fucking hate Joe Kapp because I was young enough for that Cal fuck to break my heart and make me cry when Richie Petibone only touched sky instead of his thigh

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 11:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Maybe Billy Kilmer.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 13, 2012 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Why?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

dunno, saw someone else make the comparison. Not a true passing QB, but got wins

by Josie Becker on Jan 13, 2012 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Gutty QB’s were the story back then. Not a lot of true passers, maybe Sonny Jurgensen, John Brodie.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 11:30 AM PST up reply actions  

I know nothing of the vikings outside of like, 1999-2004

by G.Scott on Jan 13, 2012 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

So you like boats?

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 13, 2012 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes?

Something something Hershell Walker something something LOLBOYS

by G.Scott on Jan 13, 2012 11:21 AM PST up reply actions  

I find the split between my age and yours and Josie’s fascinating. Growing up, all my classmates were Raiders fans. But you guys aren’t that much younger, and you’re Charger fans. It’s interesting.

by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 11:15 AM PST up reply actions  

I root for the Chargers

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

What josie and nolie said. Raiders left before I was old enough to be a fan, Chargers got good right as I started paying attention.

by G.Scott on Jan 13, 2012 11:21 AM PST up reply actions  

Hate the Angels. Actively root against them and their post-2002 fans. But if they were a fan pre-2002, I congratulate them on finally being able to enjoy a winning franchise and are happy for them.

baseball is my love, my passion. Basketball is something I enjoy watching, and rooted for the local team, but until this year didn’t really have much of a rooting interest. I guess yeah, I’d classify myself as a casual fan who is trying to learn more about the sport.

by G.Scott on Jan 13, 2012 10:36 AM PST up reply actions  

I grew up in love with a neighbor boy who rooted for the Angels. I hold them no ill will

by Josie Becker on Jan 13, 2012 10:38 AM PST up reply actions  

You also dated a Giants fan.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 10:39 AM PST up reply actions  

It’s one of the hazards of dating, sometimes you end up in bed with the enemy

by Josie Becker on Jan 13, 2012 10:40 AM PST up reply actions  

if you do

make sure you, um, “arrive” first

nothing better than to leave them hanging

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 10:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, JR Smith would work. Jason Terry is probably more what I was thinking, but if Mo can adjust to more of a pure 2 role, he’ll be fine. He’s only an inch shorter than Terry, who was a PG that shifted too.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 13, 2012 10:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Best solution: trade for a starting 2, move Billups to the swing role.

by G.Scott on Jan 13, 2012 10:31 AM PST up reply actions  

I don’t see it, not that it hasn’t been brought up occasionally on the Clipper boards. I like Billups as the SG and keeping him the starter keeps him from getting too pouty. Also, that doesn’t help with the depth at SF.

by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 10:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Also Billups at 2 helps their ridiculously low turnover rate.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 10:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Looked it up yesterday, but even with Billups missing some wide open looks (those will start going in) his TS% is basically what Gordon’s was last year. He’s so damn good at getting to the line and making his free throws that he has a ton of offensive value.

by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 10:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Did you see the article ( I think it was SBN) about how the Clippers offense is one of the most efficient in the league simply because they take a shot almost every possession rather than turning the ball over? Interesting stuff.

by G.Scott on Jan 13, 2012 10:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes, right now the starting five is as good as I ever could have hoped for.
Mo WIlliams is solid as the 6th man
Evans is a great rebounder

Still want a 3 who is better then Gomes and a real 5 for when Jordan gets into foul trouble.

I’m not trading Bledsoe just because he’s my hedge on Paul not signing long term or blowing out the knee.

We seemed to have done an excellent job with our two second round picks.

I’m not sure I’d do much this year, this team has to much learning to do on how to play together to be a Championship contender, but I do think next year they will be serious contenders provided health.

Coaching could hold them back.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

How long is Paul under contract for?

by G.Scott on Jan 13, 2012 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

This year and next year.

The great thing is, Blake can be offered the max next year. It’s tiered perfectly so Blake can extend while LAC is good, and Clippers can renegotiate with Paul knowing that Griffin is committed.

by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 11:17 AM PST up reply actions  

and have a couple seasons to see if Paul’s knee problems are recurring*

  • I know he played a full season last year. Just saying.

by G.Scott on Jan 13, 2012 11:22 AM PST up reply actions  

A good GM could’ve read the tea leaves. Oh you said rational.

by Xeifrank on Jan 13, 2012 10:12 AM PST up reply actions  

or traded the two first round picks, Aminu and Kaman and kept Gordon!

by G.Scott on Jan 13, 2012 10:01 AM PST up reply actions  

yeah I know. I’ve had a lot of fun watching Chauncey Billups play, actually.

by G.Scott on Jan 13, 2012 10:03 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m also a huge fan.

by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 10:08 AM PST up reply actions  

The pick they traded had a 2.8% chance of being the number one overall pick.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 9:55 AM PST up reply actions  

yeah I said there was no way they could have known any of what I said back then when trade was made…. but that pick did end up #1 pick.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 9:56 AM PST up reply actions  

and wasn’t there a BS goaltending call/no-call (we need Hubie to explain!) that went against the Clippers at the end of regulation? IIRC they would have won in regulation were it not for a late call like that.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 9:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Who wrote the Grapes of Wrath?
California Raisins answer was the highlight of a great Office last night.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 9:44 AM PST reply actions  

Is this a serious answer?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 9:46 AM PST up reply actions  

I liked that the Einsteins missed the question whose answer was Einstein.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 13, 2012 10:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Sooo Good

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 9:48 AM PST reply actions  

I

Have seen a few guys at both Staples and Dodger Stadium doing concessions sales in the stands.

Hollywood Joe loves both a good meal at Sotto and a $1 taco (which I had the other night) from a truck on Olympic and La Brea.

Last year, before watching UCLA beat Cal at the Rose Bowl, Joe and I stopped by his old neighborhood Italian deli in Chatsworth. That is still one part of the SFV that lives in the past in terms of development. I am sure it is a great place to grow up but it isn’t Brentwood.

by bhsportsguy on Jan 13, 2012 9:50 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

is it in chatsworth, or granada hills? where exactly is this deli I wanna try it

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 9:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Granada Hills

Italian Deli and Bakery

FTMFW

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 9:58 AM PST up reply actions  

this is next to the trader joes on San Fernando Misson and Balboa you said right?

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 9:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Have you been to San Carlo’s in Chatsworth? It’s been years for me, but it was excellent.

I need to go back there.

by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 10:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Sure – know the family who used to (and maybe still) owns it

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 10:01 AM PST up reply actions  

The reason I ask is because that means you think the deli in Granada Hills is better, correct?

by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 10:03 AM PST up reply actions  

it was “our” deli

I think the fresh baked bread and the home made olive salad at Italia are hard to beat anywhere

I don’t really eat the prepared dishes – so don’t have an opinion on that

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 10:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Do you happen to know the Errico family in the valley Joe?? They do Tile and Marble… love them.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 10:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Don’t recall – what are first names?

That isn’t a southern Italian name – I’d guess it was from Tuscany or the Piedmont

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 10:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Joe Errico is the dad, the one that came here from Napoli… there is 7 kids, maybe 4 of them were born in Italy, the other 3 were born here.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 10:28 AM PST up reply actions  

What about Los Toros?? I love it, but what you guys think?

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 10:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Big meat market on Friday and Saturday nights.

The food there is good enough, nothing outstanding, but I’m certainly not embarrassed to go there.

Try Les Sisters across the street for Cajun/Creole/Comfort food. Buttermilk pie FTW!


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 12:28 PM PST up reply actions  

How did you like the taco? What did you have in it?

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 10:22 AM PST up reply actions  

This comment was filtered. Did it contain one of the keywords “Clippers”, “Taco” or “Star Wars” in it?

by Xeifrank on Jan 13, 2012 10:26 AM PST up reply actions  

I see you upgraded your filter

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Jan 13, 2012 10:27 AM PST up reply actions  

oh by the way there is a chrome extension

that can block certain users. I haven’t tried it, but its real.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Jan 13, 2012 10:27 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m not able to view this comment. Is there a reason why ;)

by kinbote on Jan 13, 2012 10:43 AM PST up reply actions  

If you’d like, I can bring back Watch Thoughts.

Still chasing the dream of mediocrity

by Humma Kavula on Jan 13, 2012 10:27 AM PST up reply actions  

This is the one I think I want

Oris Big Crown Pointer Date. If I can find it (a) in 36mm, which they don’t make anymore, and (b) for about $500, which is what some watch seller was selling it for three months ago.

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by Humma Kavula on Jan 13, 2012 10:30 AM PST up reply actions  

me too

anything better than The Tebow hour

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 10:32 AM PST up reply actions  

I’ll see your watch thoughts and raise you one BCS thoughts.

by Xeifrank on Jan 13, 2012 10:35 AM PST up reply actions  

y’know what I like? Away We Go. Under appreciated movie

by Josie Becker on Jan 13, 2012 10:36 AM PST up reply actions  

It was good

Although I was rooting for them to stick around with his bro.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Jan 13, 2012 10:38 AM PST up reply actions  

there were benefits to each posible life, but ultimately the best one was the one they came up with on their own #lifelesson

by Josie Becker on Jan 13, 2012 10:41 AM PST up reply actions  

yeah

I just felt bad for his brother and niece

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Jan 13, 2012 10:42 AM PST up reply actions  

oh for sure, but his brother probably figured it out and became even closer to his daughter as a result, and I’m sure there were tons of visits between the families

by Josie Becker on Jan 13, 2012 10:43 AM PST up reply actions  

true true

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Jan 13, 2012 10:45 AM PST up reply actions  

al pastor (2) and

carne asada (1).

I would seriously consider catering a party with a 100 al pastor tacos and 100 carne asada

by bhsportsguy on Jan 13, 2012 10:31 AM PST up reply actions  

awesome – glad they held up for you

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 10:32 AM PST up reply actions  

My Friday lunch decision has been made.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 10:32 AM PST up reply actions  

they don’t open until 9PM

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 10:33 AM PST up reply actions  

There have been several mentions of street-type tacos today. That’s what I will have.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 10:35 AM PST up reply actions  

like you’re eating a hard shelled taco. The “correct” way is to roll it, is what this book told me

by Josie Becker on Jan 13, 2012 10:39 AM PST up reply actions  

what am I supposed to do with the silver wear and napkin I brought along?

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 10:41 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m going to gringo the shit out of my tacos.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 10:43 AM PST up reply actions  

are you sure it was a book?

Are you sure it wasn’t nothing?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 13, 2012 10:48 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

I don't know anyone

form either side of the border that rolls a taco. That’s a flauta

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Jan 13, 2012 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

i fucking love flautas

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Jan 13, 2012 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

flatulence on the other hand

fun only when you have it

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

Ciro's

in East LA is famous for their flautas. It’s definitely the hood.

705 N Evergreen Ave
Los Angeles, CA 90033

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Jan 13, 2012 11:03 AM PST up reply actions  

Ciro is an italian name, wtf??

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 11:44 AM PST up reply actions  

One of my friends from Napoli’s name is Ciro, and they pronounce it like Cheetoh, weird.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 11:46 AM PST up reply actions  

I think

good al pastor beats good carne asada 100 out of 100 times. And I love good carne asada.

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Jan 13, 2012 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

hipster

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Jan 13, 2012 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Threadless T's, you probably know them from their ads with

hot girls wearing their T’s and glasses, held a contest to design a tshit based on existing college mascots. Here’s what they came up with for SC:

and here’s what they came up for UCLA

and the best for last, what they came up with for Cal:

by Josie Becker on Jan 13, 2012 9:56 AM PST reply actions  

So the UCLA winner came up with the idea to put the UCLA logo on a shirt?

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by regfairfield on Jan 13, 2012 9:57 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

there were multiple designs, they were voted on. The logo is made up with words from the fight song, but yes it’s lame

by Josie Becker on Jan 13, 2012 9:59 AM PST up reply actions  

it does look much cooler closer up

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by nolander on Jan 13, 2012 10:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Historically

Thinking, I don’t believe the warriors from Troy were that skin color

by bhsportsguy on Jan 13, 2012 10:00 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

well the only lighting they had were candles, made for a lot of shadows : )

by Josie Becker on Jan 13, 2012 10:01 AM PST up reply actions  

Most likely to be able to kick the other two guys asses: CAL guy
Most likely to be a drug addict: CAL guy
Most likely not to be a real student: CAL guy
Most likely to be a soccer player: USC guy
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Not sure what I can come up with for the UCLA guy.

by Xeifrank on Jan 13, 2012 10:16 AM PST up reply actions  

most likely to be an accountant for accountants? or to sell insurance to insurance companies?

by Josie Becker on Jan 13, 2012 10:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Most likely to check out Sweet Sweet Yack at Coachella.

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by regfairfield on Jan 13, 2012 10:17 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

one more time and you are golden

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

crap, i have that bookmarked at home but not here.

by G.Scott on Jan 13, 2012 10:27 AM PST up reply actions  

I like Sweet Sweet Yack’s early stuff, but they haven’t been good since they sold out.

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by Humma Kavula on Jan 13, 2012 10:19 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

hipster

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 13, 2012 10:19 AM PST up reply actions  

My fat cousin likes Sweet Sweet Yack.

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by Humma Kavula on Jan 13, 2012 10:20 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

“I Feel Like (I’ve Been Holding this Chair) Forever” is a great tune.

by kinbote on Jan 13, 2012 10:45 AM PST up reply actions  

the UCLA guy clearly sleeps with the other guys girlfriends, if those other guys actually had girlfriends

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 10:17 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Nah. That beard needs a trim. Most likely to be a script girl’s script girl.

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by Humma Kavula on Jan 13, 2012 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

god I love that term

What ever happened to AMERICA

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Gentlemen, where is the cream?

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by Humma Kavula on Jan 13, 2012 10:19 AM PST up reply actions  

what do they call script girl’s now anyway? I can’t remember the name.

by Josie Becker on Jan 13, 2012 10:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Script Supervisor

no romance in that title

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 10:24 AM PST up reply actions  

no romance in Flight Attendant either, but here we are

by Josie Becker on Jan 13, 2012 10:25 AM PST up reply actions  

sweetcheeks

Just invokes anger now……

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 13, 2012 10:29 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

depends

context rules the day

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 10:31 AM PST up reply actions  

true

calling someone sweetheart isn’t offensive, calling someone you barely know, sweetheart, is

by Josie Becker on Jan 13, 2012 10:33 AM PST up reply actions  

depends on your smile and her smile

come on, we all hate this shit a little bit, even if we all agree the world is better for it

men still want women, and women still want to be wanted – nothing wrong with a little of that every now and then

sterile post-sexual world is awfully boring

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 10:35 AM PST up reply actions  

boring, but necessary to create a social sphere that isn’t one big orgy #hyperbole

by Josie Becker on Jan 13, 2012 10:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Vin Scully

And Barbara Walters are still working hard at age 82.

by bhsportsguy on Jan 13, 2012 9:58 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

Kyle Kendrick just got almost 4 million in his first year of arbitration, so based on that Kershaw will get 35 million.

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by regfairfield on Jan 13, 2012 10:01 AM PST reply actions  

Maybe they give older players that hit arbitration more money than younger ones?

by Joey Joe on Jan 13, 2012 10:48 AM PST up reply actions  

$1M in 2012 / $34 in 2013.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 12:37 PM PST up reply actions  

She puts a lot of pressure on you?

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by regfairfield on Jan 13, 2012 10:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Pressure pushing down on me
Pressing down on you no man ask for
Under pressure – that burns a building down
Splits a family in two
Puts people on streets

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Jan 13, 2012 10:48 AM PST up reply actions  

She’s full of hot air or farts a lot?

by silverwidow on Jan 13, 2012 10:48 AM PST up reply actions  

cans, she has nice large cans

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 10:49 AM PST up reply actions  

No shit, I lost the 7th grade spelling bee on pulchritude.

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by Humma Kavula on Jan 13, 2012 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

That means “beautiful,” not “stacked.”

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 13, 2012 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

True

but it sounds like it means stacked

by bhsportsguy on Jan 13, 2012 11:09 AM PST up reply actions  

I like to use “buxom.”

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 13, 2012 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

Or “zaftig” in appropriate situations.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 13, 2012 11:12 AM PST up reply actions  

I once had to pick up a woman at the airport that I had never met before and she described herself to me as “middle-aged zaftig”. To be on the safe side, I put her name on a sign.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 12:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I have always liked this word.

by OB12 on Jan 13, 2012 12:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I still like Thomas Hardy’s “apple-like convexities of her bodice.”

by kinbote on Jan 13, 2012 11:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Christina Hendricks says, “Apples, huh?”

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by Humma Kavula on Jan 13, 2012 11:13 AM PST up reply actions  

She is, yes, a unique case.

by kinbote on Jan 13, 2012 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

I like them apples very much, as a matter of fact.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 13, 2012 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

That they no longer want you to talk to them.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 10:50 AM PST up reply actions  

She has a crazy ass name that requires a sing-song verse to remember.

by G.Scott on Jan 13, 2012 10:53 AM PST up reply actions  

She pees silently.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 13, 2012 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

ugh. I hate when I try and press the up button

and it clicks a profile instead!

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by Ivdown on Jan 13, 2012 10:52 AM PST reply actions  

too many AMFs*.
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*too many = one

by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 10:53 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Sometimes that's more than enough

lol

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by Ivdown on Jan 13, 2012 11:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Kuroda's price has dropped

According to MLBTR, sorry for not linking Kuroda’s price has dropped to one year for 10-11m per year. Wonder if the Dodgers should not give it a try? Rotation improves quite a bit. Obviously there would have to be a lot of face saving exercises done.

by wineracquet on Jan 13, 2012 11:00 AM PST reply actions  

if we have 10mil leftover, we have 10mil to give Prince in a backloaded 7 year deal.

by G.Scott on Jan 13, 2012 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

ESPN.com

basically said the Yankees and Red Sox don’t want to pay 12-13M.

by bhsportsguy on Jan 13, 2012 11:03 AM PST up reply actions  

odd

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Jan 13, 2012 11:03 AM PST up reply actions  

Peter Gammons said the Yankees were trying to get back below the salary cap. said they currently spend around $30mil a year extra in salary tax.

by G.Scott on Jan 13, 2012 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

odd

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Jan 13, 2012 11:17 AM PST up reply actions  

They are being run now by the Heart and the Head, whereas before they were run by the Gut and the Mouth.

by G.Scott on Jan 13, 2012 11:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Never. No way. Nope. That boat has sailed.

by kinbote on Jan 13, 2012 11:03 AM PST up reply actions  

Only way that happens if there's a 6 man rotation, which could be kinda beastly

I’d love something like:

1. Kershaw
2. Bills
3. Kuroda
4. Lilly
5 First Time Through Rotation. Capuano
5 Second Time Through Rotation. Harang

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by Ivdown on Jan 13, 2012 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

play it like spring training.

1: Kershaw for 6, Lilly
2: Billingsley for 6, Harang
3: Kuroda for 6, Capuano
4: Lilly for 6, Kershaw
5: Harang, Billingsley

:)

by G.Scott on Jan 13, 2012 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Boss: “Gary, I’m going to need you to create a procedure for how we complete this form”
In my head: “Oh, you mean that procedure I told you we needed to do 18 months ago. Yeah, i did it then knowing you’d need it at some point. I’m just going to change the dates on it and hand it back to you for a third time”
Me: “No problem, when do you need it by.”
Boss: “COB is fine.”
Me: “Ok, no problem”. /TBLA

by G.Scott on Jan 13, 2012 11:06 AM PST reply actions  

Close of business?

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 13, 2012 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

mowing lawns and collecting the cash off the bookshelf is a job! #notreally

by Josie Becker on Jan 13, 2012 11:17 AM PST up reply actions  

I went to an entirely different place with “cash on bookshelf.”

Still chasing the dream of mediocrity

by Humma Kavula on Jan 13, 2012 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

That's my payment method

for my cleaning lady

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Jan 13, 2012 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

always remember

You don’t pay ’em to stay; you pay ’em to leave.

by kinbote on Jan 13, 2012 11:22 AM PST up reply actions  

close of business

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Jan 13, 2012 11:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Yep

COB is part of the 9 to 5 experience

by bhsportsguy on Jan 13, 2012 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

the 9 to 5 is a lie

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Jan 13, 2012 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

8-4:30, ftw!

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by Ivdown on Jan 13, 2012 11:30 AM PST up reply actions  

you know what's not part of the 9 to 5 experience?

Working 9 – 5

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Jan 13, 2012 11:19 AM PST up reply actions  

What a way to make a living.

Still chasing the dream of mediocrity

by Humma Kavula on Jan 13, 2012 11:21 AM PST up reply actions  

God that movie is somehow part of my childhood. I vaguely recall Dabney Coleman tied up.

by kinbote on Jan 13, 2012 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

East Coast is 9 – 5

Our Stock Market opens at 06:30, making a West Coast Broker job a morning bitch, but a good gig in NY.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 11:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Yep. Used to get to work at 6:00am.

by kinbote on Jan 13, 2012 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

but every other friday off is cool

by G.Scott on Jan 13, 2012 11:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Though I shouldn't complain

I’m basically 9 – 5:30, sometimes going to 6:30

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Jan 13, 2012 11:25 AM PST up reply actions  

9-6

wife is 8:30 to 5

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Jan 13, 2012 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Adam Schefter

As reported on ESPN at the top of the hour, Jeff Fisher has agreed to coach the Rams.

by bhsportsguy on Jan 13, 2012 11:10 AM PST reply actions  

gonna be interesting to see if they trade Bradford.

by G.Scott on Jan 13, 2012 11:11 AM PST up reply actions  

Doubtful

Bradford’s contract would be too much of salary cap hit and he is coming off a serious ankle sprain.

by bhsportsguy on Jan 13, 2012 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

aight

I’m no longer rooting for the rams. Can’t wait till the Rams become the dirtiest team in the NFL.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Jan 13, 2012 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

I hope they don't hire Dennis Allen or I'm gonna be pissed.

I’ve been tweeting the Rams about what a terrible hire that would be. ;)

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Jan 13, 2012 12:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh wait, I read that wrong. I thought it was the DOLPHINS.

Hooray! Go rams!

Whew.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Jan 13, 2012 12:19 PM PST up reply actions  

They are young and cute

but Justin Bieber and Selena Gomez are not a power couple

by bhsportsguy on Jan 13, 2012 11:14 AM PST reply actions  

Are they Bieblena? Selieber?

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 13, 2012 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Selena Gomez says, “Bleep blorp, no shit.”

Still chasing the dream of mediocrity

by Humma Kavula on Jan 13, 2012 11:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Selena Gomez has that goofy Amanda Bynes vibe.
Not much sex appeal there but they could be really good comic actresses.

by Joey Joe on Jan 13, 2012 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Selena is way hotter then Amanada Bynes.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 11:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Side note

Amanda Bynes became really hot, though I still agree

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by Ivdown on Jan 13, 2012 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

yes she did

She was really cute on that show she did with Jennie Garth.
Also did Maxim.

by Joey Joe on Jan 13, 2012 11:34 AM PST up reply actions  

That Maxim shoot was so good

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by Ivdown on Jan 13, 2012 12:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Doesn’t she have crazy Ana Faris plastic surgery face/mouth now though?

by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 11:34 AM PST up reply actions  

She looked weird in Easy A

maybe it was just for the role though

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Jan 13, 2012 11:35 AM PST up reply actions  

wayans brothers should get some money

for every movie Anna Faris does.
They discovered her, and she’s one of the best at what she does.

by Joey Joe on Jan 13, 2012 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

way too skinny

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Jan 13, 2012 11:34 AM PST up reply actions  

I saw a tweet to this effect yesterday, that while Zooey Deschanel may be “adorkable” but that isn’t sexy. Emmy Rossum is similar to Zooey, but adult enough to be “aporkable”

by Josie Becker on Jan 13, 2012 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

nice

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Jan 13, 2012 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

I think Amanday and Selena are adorkable.

I find Zooey just weird

by Joey Joe on Jan 13, 2012 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

I find Zooey attractive

as you all know. I don’t spend time trying to figure out why.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 1:06 PM PST up reply actions  

All brown-haired girls look alike.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 13, 2012 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

and you’ll be hungry again in 20 minutes anyway

by G.Scott on Jan 13, 2012 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Do any of them have fat cousins?

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by Humma Kavula on Jan 13, 2012 11:30 AM PST up reply actions  

Kat is becoming a fat cousin

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Best kind of cousin.

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by Humma Kavula on Jan 13, 2012 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

To quote Buddy Hackett — and I swear this is a Buddy Hackett quote — “I knew it. I can tell Jewish tits anywhere.”

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by Humma Kavula on Jan 13, 2012 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Haven't seen her on her show

But she was definitely good looking in Nick and Norah’s Infinite Playlist

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by Ivdown on Jan 13, 2012 11:34 AM PST up reply actions  

they also compete for that quirky, eccentric, late 20s role, best friend role..

by Joey Joe on Jan 13, 2012 11:30 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh, so you’re saying “actresses.”

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 13, 2012 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Joan Cusack used to be the go-to quirky friend.

by kinbote on Jan 13, 2012 11:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Never hot though, just quirky

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 11:54 AM PST up reply actions  

last thing i seen her in was school of rock…still quirky for sure

by Joey Joe on Jan 13, 2012 11:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Watch any of her brothers movie’s and she will show up somewhere.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 11:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Cusack is REALLY quirky in Shameless.

by jim hitchcock (railway) on Jan 13, 2012 12:18 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s still an understatement

by BFDC on Jan 13, 2012 12:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Kat has a bit more then the rest combined

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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 11:30 AM PST up reply actions  

My guess is that

if you met any of them in person, they would be a lot more thinner than you think from TV

by bhsportsguy on Jan 13, 2012 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes, which is why I think Kat is the only one who is of a size that would be healthy.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 11:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Yup, they’re all ok. If they weren’t famous and I saw any of them walking down the street I wouldn’t look twice. Well maybe Kat I would look a couple more times. She’s got a little something more.

by BFDC on Jan 13, 2012 11:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Aubrey’s eyes are haunting. She’d warrant a second look.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 13, 2012 11:35 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm with you there

Kat would get my attention, lol

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by Ivdown on Jan 13, 2012 11:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Zooey is not hot, just weirdly cute

Though Katy Perry is seriously hot. Gotta be the body just kicking it into hot gear.

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by Ivdown on Jan 13, 2012 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Ten years ago I made a really good Amanda Bynes joke.

At the start of the Iraq war, Amanda Bynes was in a movie and the key art had her flashing a peace sign. The studio changed it to have her hands in her pockets. Story here:

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,625918,00.html

Joke:

What’s the difference between Alanis Morisette and Amanda Bynes?

Alanis has one hand in her pocket and the other one making a peace sign. Amanda Bynes has both hands in her pockets.

Still chasing the dream of mediocrity

by Humma Kavula on Jan 13, 2012 11:21 AM PST up reply actions  

Guess you had to be there…

by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 11:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Well I thought it was a good joke.

Still chasing the dream of mediocrity

by Humma Kavula on Jan 13, 2012 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

the best part about this joke being explained

is that it was from 10 years ago

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by Ivdown on Jan 13, 2012 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

At least your kids

are not old enough to watch those shows.

by bhsportsguy on Jan 13, 2012 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

They get in the way of 24-7 Phineas and Ferb on Disney Channel.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 13, 2012 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

My kid does… got me hooked haha… Love Victorious and iCarly.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

I would say that I don’t know who Selena Gomez is, but I don’t want to invite a slew of pics.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

turn left eric nooooooo

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by regfairfield on Jan 13, 2012 11:22 AM PST up reply actions  

This just means your nieces and nephews are beyond the tween years

for the last 4 years. If you were around tweens and watched TV with them, you know Selena Gomez

by bhsportsguy on Jan 13, 2012 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

She loves you like a love song.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Naturally.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 13, 2012 11:25 AM PST up reply actions  

whats wrong with pictures?

by Joey Joe on Jan 13, 2012 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

It gets old real fast. Sometimes, like ivdown and his drink choices, we should strive to behave like adults. :)

by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 11:25 AM PST up reply actions  

If we we adults we’d be talking about politics, not sports.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 11:28 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Fine, vodka shots then :)

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by Ivdown on Jan 13, 2012 11:47 AM PST up reply actions  

She is no Vanessa Hudgens though, who had those Vanessa Hudgens pics?

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 11:25 AM PST up reply actions  

If you post those pictures I’m banning you.

Fair warning

by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

what pictues? You being serious or you dont like Vanessa Hudgens? I have never posted any picture.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

The pictures you’re referring to in the comment. Yes, I’m being serious.

by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Are you talking about the naked pics?? No mike, come on man… I was not talking about those, im talking about the ones someone posted on here of her a few months ago… regular pictures of her.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 11:30 AM PST up reply actions  

Amazing Grace and Chuck Hayes.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 13, 2012 11:29 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Sac Kings

won’t miss a “beat” with Alex English, but they aren’t likely going to stop the world and melt with you. #80sNBA&Music

by Xeifrank on Jan 13, 2012 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

The general public won’t get this.

by kinbote on Jan 13, 2012 11:54 AM PST up reply actions  

only the ones who spy for the fbi.

by Xeifrank on Jan 13, 2012 11:56 AM PST up reply actions  

I was too busy

looking in my mirror in the bathroom

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Jan 13, 2012 11:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Dbacks trying to keep the NL West competitive: are looking at Bartolo Colon for 5th starter job.

by G.Scott on Jan 13, 2012 11:28 AM PST reply actions  

Couldn’t hurt while the boys percolate

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

But Bartolowns.

The only guy I even recognize as a starter on their 40 man is Barry Enright so why not.

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by regfairfield on Jan 13, 2012 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

on the extended 15 roster, I guess. on the 40 but not the 25

by G.Scott on Jan 13, 2012 11:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Right, meant outside the obvious Kennedy/Hudson/Cahill/Collementer.

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by regfairfield on Jan 13, 2012 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Wonder if last year was a fluke or not. Put up good peripherals with the Yankees in the AL East last season. Of course, before that his last productive season was 2005.

7.39 K/9
2.13 BB/9
1.22 GB/FB
164 IP

are actually pretty good numbers. But like I said… was it a fluke.

I also think the DBacks are over-rated – clap clap – clap clap clap.

by Xeifrank on Jan 13, 2012 11:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Wasn’t he the new surgery poster boy for 2011?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 11:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Stem Cells to the shoulder

by G.Scott on Jan 13, 2012 12:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Just read

Their top four starters are all under team control through 2015 (I think).

by kinbote on Jan 13, 2012 11:55 AM PST up reply actions  

yep

Rotation looks to be loaded going forward.

by kinbote on Jan 13, 2012 11:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Can you be jealous of a team that you are a fan of?

I guess I’m jealous of Houston fans who grew up in Houston. Their big name DC is a Houston boy whos father was a big deal in his day, their head coach is a houston boy. Their owner has lived in houston since the 60s. I want something like that for the Dodgers.

Kubiak talking about visiting his fathers grave this week got me thinking is all. Kind of touching.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Jan 13, 2012 11:34 AM PST reply actions  

You’re saying Sparky Anderson should have coached the Dodgers?

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 13, 2012 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

I’d like ex-Dodgers working for the Dodgers but I’ve been told that I’m full of hooey and having ex Yankee’s run our franchise is a better option since someone who had never managed one bloody iota was a better choice then someone with a Dodger background.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

A New Englander installed a Chicagoan ex-Giant to hire those ex-Yankees.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 13, 2012 11:38 AM PST up reply actions  

I don’t remember him being a popuplar managerial choice on this board at all. I hated the way he was just handed the job and there were a ton of guys who wanted Wallach.

by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 11:39 AM PST up reply actions  

I agree, I didnt want Donnie at all… I wanted Wallach. Still do, sort of.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 11:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Wallach is an Expo.

by G.Scott on Jan 13, 2012 12:34 PM PST up reply actions  

How so? Doing what? Or do you mean his playing past?

by berkowit28 on Jan 13, 2012 12:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

but I am, nonetheless, glad the Dodgers retained him as a coach

by G.Scott on Jan 13, 2012 1:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I just want people who know what they are doing, and win…. Raiders do alot of that crap, bringing in Ex Raiders, hasnt worked for shit.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 11:39 AM PST up reply actions  

weird thing to be jealous of IMO…. It really doesnt matter to be if new Dodger people have LA ties or not.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 11:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Disagree. One reason I loved EK. Darryl Strawberry and Eric Davis coming home was very very exciting.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 13, 2012 11:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Damn that was going to be so awesome. Straw and Davis even came to speak at my high school in Palm Springs at some point in 1992 or so.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 11:40 AM PST up reply actions  

I really thought Davis

was the tipping point for the team. Little did I know, it was, but the wrong direction

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Jan 13, 2012 11:44 AM PST up reply actions  

I had a Strawberry, Butler, and Davis Tshirt, think it said Outfield of Dreams or something, Didnt work out that way.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 11:47 AM PST up reply actions  

I went batshit crazy when we signed Strawberry in November 1990. Such awesome news.

by silverwidow on Jan 13, 2012 11:45 AM PST up reply actions  

Strawberry and Shaq were the two L.A. signings that a lot of people assumed would happen maybe a year or two beforehand, but were still a great joy and pleasant surprise once they came to fruition.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 11:48 AM PST up reply actions  

I was more excited by the Kobe draft pick:)

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 11:50 AM PST up reply actions  

ironically I hated the move to trade Divac for Kobe… I still wanted Divac as a backup, and had no interest in some HS kid..

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 11:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Shaq signing was one of the greatest days of my life… the day before Fred Roggon was on NBC saying Lakers were not signing Shaq, or Shaq wasnt coming to LA…. next day I wake up, Shaq is with Jerry West at a press conference… something like that. I still have the exact same Laker hat Shaq wore at that press conference.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Shaq gave you his hat?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 11:52 AM PST up reply actions  

No, I went out the next day or 2, and bought the same hat he wore at that press conference… Just like I do when they win the title, I got get the championship lockerroom Tshirt and hat…. I only wear what the pros wear baby haha.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 11:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Kobe & Shaq in 1 off-season is still the greatest GM’ing I’ve ever seen…

by Joey Joe on Jan 13, 2012 11:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Davis and Daniels, loved the acquisitions. Kal Daniels had the sweetest swing in baseball and Davis was literally the most exciting player I’d ever seen.

When they went bad, I took it hard. Drinking, gambling, whoring, tiddly winking. The whole shebang.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 11:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Those were current players…. im talking about Dodgers owner, manager, GM, whatever, dont need them to be from LA….. as far as a player, would be sweet to have a superstar that is LA born, raised, and bred.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 11:40 AM PST up reply actions  

But they might have herpes.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 13, 2012 1:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Noland said he is jealous because the Texans DC is from Houston, but not something that I would be jealous of…. but thats cool.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 11:42 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm jealous that the team has such deep ties to the community

not just the DC.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Jan 13, 2012 11:56 AM PST up reply actions  

This is like my dream post right here.

by silverwidow on Jan 13, 2012 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm eating some turkey stew

I made from the carcasses of two turkeys I roasted over the holidays. I’m thinking now, it’s thick enough that it would make a great burrito.

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Jan 13, 2012 11:53 AM PST up reply actions  

What I’m having would go well with a spicy verde salsa

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Jan 13, 2012 11:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Ahh

a little more smoky pork like flavor

by bhsportsguy on Jan 13, 2012 11:58 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m about to have prime rib chili made in the crock pot yesterday from leftover x-mas roast (in freezer—don’t worry).

by kinbote on Jan 13, 2012 11:58 AM PST up reply actions  

The #1 at La Azteca

sounds divine. I’m going this weekend if at all possible

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Jan 13, 2012 12:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Late at night after all the traffic has died down and the local restaurants have closed shop, an otherwise desolate stretch of Lincoln Boulevard is home to La Oaxaqueña — a taco truck that has been on the corner of Lincoln and Rose for ten years now.

There are two Mexican restaurants on that very corner, and they’ve been there for a lot of years: Casablanca and La Cabana. The latter is open very late, until 2 or 3 A.M.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 12:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Casablanca

was one of the worst Mexican meals I’ve ever had. About 25 years ago

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Jan 13, 2012 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

I was there a couple years ago and it was acceptable.

Place has been there since the 70s, at least.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

When Mike Stanton comes home, I’ll be excited to watch him go for his 400th home run before the age of 30

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 11:54 AM PST reply actions  

Arte cant have that much money….;)

by Joey Joe on Jan 13, 2012 11:56 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m getting excited about Harold Miner getting his jersey retired by USC on Sunday. The hoops history, she is not so much.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 11:58 AM PST reply actions  

They should just hang Miner from the rafters

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Jan 13, 2012 11:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Baby Jordan. I saw him drain a game-winning three against UCLA one year. One of the best USC b-ball players I’ve ever seen.

by kinbote on Jan 13, 2012 12:00 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah I think he basically single handedly got USC into the NCAA tournament… my 1st as an SC fan, though they lost 1st game I believe.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 12:01 PM PST up reply actions  

second game

To James Fucking Forrest.

USC was a 2 seed that year. Unheard of.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 12:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Was that Georgia Tech?

by kinbote on Jan 13, 2012 12:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I still remember that. Dagger.

by kinbote on Jan 13, 2012 12:07 PM PST up reply actions  

To this day, I don’t write in any team in my NCAA tourney bracket until the game is officially over. Because of that game.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 12:08 PM PST up reply actions  

I think my official favorite “cool sports moment” is from around the same time, when Bo Kimble shot a free throw left-handed to honor Hank Gathers. Just unreal in its poignancy (sports division).

by kinbote on Jan 13, 2012 12:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Bo Kimble is why I bought my first Clipper Season Ticket package.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 12:14 PM PST up reply actions  

First FT of every game he shot left-handed. So awesome.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 12:16 PM PST up reply actions  

When the Galen Center was built

there was a fear by UCLA fans that USC would use that facility to their advantage when it came to recruiting. But I tend to believe that the OJ Mayo exercise and the subsequent throwing the basketball team under the bus to hopefully reduce sanctions proves that the only thing basketball does is exist for a place to bring football recruits in January.

by bhsportsguy on Jan 13, 2012 12:01 PM PST up reply actions  

USC basketball seemed to be on the rise, then Floyd left, and why is Kevin Oneal still coach? who the hell wants to play for him?? Now they are sorry as shit… Baseball team too has sucked balls…. I love SC football 1st and foremost too, but I wouldnt mind being a little better in these other 2 sports.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 12:05 PM PST up reply actions  

To be honest, i think he’s still employed because of a chance at Shabazz

by Julio Nievas on Jan 13, 2012 12:08 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Screw him, he got me excited about USC basketball and then sucked in the tournament. and then sucked in the NBA. Fuck him

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 12:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Good extension though on the jumper :)

by kinbote on Jan 13, 2012 12:07 PM PST up reply actions  

One of my all time favorite college scorers. I hate it when they don’t live up to my lofty expectations.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 12:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Here’s a dunk against UCLA that USC tweeted out today. Worth it if only for Tracy Murray’s fade cut.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 12:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Blue Chips star Mitchell Butler was my co-favorite player with Anthony Peeler back in the day.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 13, 2012 1:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Pulled the trigger on tickets

Section 11 row 9

can’t be bad seats right?

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 12:25 PM PST reply actions  

Premier 11

Looks like baseline, second level up

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 12:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Ah, yea those are solid

by BFDC on Jan 13, 2012 12:31 PM PST up reply actions  

but not elite

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Jan 13, 2012 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

that is exactly who I want to be

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I've only been there a few times

But I don’t think there are any bad seats at Staples

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 13, 2012 12:29 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

I was looking at the Golden State Warrior Media Guide last night

And just one note about how dominate Wilt Chamberlain was in his era.

Just for the Warriors (Philadelphia and San Francisco), Wilt scored 50 or more points in a game 100 times. Of course in the greatest scoring year (individually) in NBA history, 1961-1962, Wilt led the league with a 50 points per game scoring average and 25 rebounds per game.

Elgin Baylor had the second highest average that year at over 38 points a game and 18.6 rebounds (he only played 48 games that year due to his National Guard service requirements). Back then, the NBA used totals as their official record of stats leaders so you won’t see Elgin’s name in the official records. That was the same year Oscar Robertson (30 points, 12 rebounds and 11 assists) averaged a triple double and Jerry West also averaged over 30 points a game.

by bhsportsguy on Jan 13, 2012 12:35 PM PST reply actions  

I read something once on Baylor’s national guard stint. Just a crazy schedule. He would play his ass off in the NBA, then have to report for the weekend for national guard duty. Every single week.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 12:39 PM PST up reply actions  

He was an Army reservist

he had to use a weekend pass to play for the Lakers that year. Played in 48 games and scored over 1800 points.

by bhsportsguy on Jan 13, 2012 12:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I couldn’t remember if the weekends were for service or for basketball. Either way, amazing.

Puts Kobe’s back-and-forth in-season flights to Eagle, Colorado to shame. :)

by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 12:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Did he do any service the day of a game though??

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 12:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Wilt Chamberlain holds the record most consecutive games with 50 or more points

7 games

40 or more points, 14 games (twice).

30 or more points, 65 straight games

20 or more points, 126 straight games

by bhsportsguy on Jan 13, 2012 12:39 PM PST reply actions  

I want to say Kareem’s record for 10-point games was 787, or possibly 788. But going off memory from old Lakers’ championship videos.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 12:40 PM PST up reply actions  

He was always a slacker

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Jan 13, 2012 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

The hell I was! LISTEN KID! I’ve been hearing that crap ever since I was at UCLA. I’m out there busting my buns every night. Tell your old man to drag Walton and Lanier up and down the court for 48 minutes.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

The response i was looking for :)

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Jan 13, 2012 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow

you were right on at 787. But Jordan broke that record and holds it at 866 games

by bhsportsguy on Jan 13, 2012 12:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Jack Wilson signs for 1 year, $1mil.

Ned Colletti continues to suck.

by G.Scott on Jan 13, 2012 12:57 PM PST reply actions  

bleep bloop does not compute bleep bloop

by G.Scott on Jan 13, 2012 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Bob Nightengale tweets
Breaking: The Texas #Rangers are meeting today with Prince Fielder at Dallas-area hotel. Stay tuned #mlb

by bhsportsguy on Jan 13, 2012 1:02 PM PST reply actions  

That would be such a ridiculous offense

Kinsler
Young
Hamilton
Fielder
Beltre
Napoli
Cruz
Andrus
Gentry/Borbon

by BFDC on Jan 13, 2012 1:06 PM PST up reply actions  

too bad the teams in the al (and the phillies) seem to be the only teams intent on going balls out.. would be nice to see more powerhouses in the nl

(then again, nl has won the world series the last two years in a row..)

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jan 13, 2012 1:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Only two of the top 10 teams in free agent spending this year are in the NL.

Granted Texas is gonna leap up that chart real fast once they wrap up Darvish.

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by regfairfield on Jan 13, 2012 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Could you post that top ten list? ty

by Xeifrank on Jan 13, 2012 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Here you go.

And holy crap I got that backwards I meant the AL.

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by regfairfield on Jan 13, 2012 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

haha we spent 42 million on crap

to put us at number 4

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Jan 13, 2012 1:18 PM PST up reply actions  

That is just so pathetic

by BFDC on Jan 13, 2012 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, that through me off when you said NL, thus wanting to see “this” list. :)

by Xeifrank on Jan 13, 2012 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Jersey Mike's

Went there for lunch. So what, right? Well, unbeknownst to me, they now charge tax if you want to eat in the restaurant. Fuck that! I told him I’ll take it to go and ate it at Starbucks.

by silverwidow on Jan 13, 2012 1:04 PM PST reply actions  

Coffee bean has been doing that for years.

by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

The law is “cold food to go” doesn’t have tax.

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by regfairfield on Jan 13, 2012 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Right. It’s not like Jersey Mike’s wants to charge the tax. They have to.

by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

I was upset that they suddenly changed policy.

by silverwidow on Jan 13, 2012 1:10 PM PST up reply actions  

They didn’t change, they probably just got busted or had a clerk that cared for whatever reason.

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by regfairfield on Jan 13, 2012 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Right. This is why at the coffee places and sandwich shops, they are always supposed to ask you “for here or to go” and tax you or not accordingly.

I do know people that always say “to go” then sometimes sit down and eat it there anyway.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 1:14 PM PST up reply actions  

BTW, the clerk specifically told me “you can’t eat it here then.” So he was by the book.

by silverwidow on Jan 13, 2012 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Will they call the cops if you do?

by Xeifrank on Jan 13, 2012 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Kid: Mom, I got arrested today.
Mom: What for, drugs again?
Kid: Nope. Ate a bagel in a Starbucks.
Mom: Say “hi” to Dad in prison.

by Xeifrank on Jan 13, 2012 1:18 PM PST up reply actions  

No

but do you really want to be annoyance.

by bhsportsguy on Jan 13, 2012 1:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Can’t imagine you buy food/drink from a restaraunt which allows people to eat inside… but then you are not allowed to eat inside. I’d just say I changed my mind and wanted to eat inside.

by Xeifrank on Jan 13, 2012 1:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Then you have to pay California the sales tax.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 1:21 PM PST up reply actions  

In Europe

this is common (as talked about before). They charge more for inside dining plus they automatically add a service charge.

by bhsportsguy on Jan 13, 2012 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

So all this time ive been getting charged extra tax to eat at Olive Garden? fuck!

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Those breadsticks and salad done seem so good now

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

You never noticed the sales tax line on your bill?

by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah ofcourse… I thought we were talking about an extra tax for eating there… but I get it now lol… so cold food no tax, just taxed if you eat it there, but Olive Garden is same .0875 tax, nothing extra for eating there, cold, hot whatever.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

You’ve never noticed that you pay sales tax at restaurants?

And it is the same tax, to go or in house. Except for cold food.


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by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

What about soda? Do they charge tax on soda?

by silverwidow on Jan 13, 2012 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I think they do… and CRV, and they charge you tax on the CRV too, fuckin California… and were still fuckin broke…. Cant believe I gotta pay money to recycle stuff.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

You know the R stands for Redemption, right? You can get your money back. If you are throwing your CRV cans/bottles into the blue trash can, you are just paying a tax you imposed on yourself. (or a convenience fee for not doing the recycling yourself).


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by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Why do I gotta pay tax on the CRV though?? Isnt the CRV bad enough??

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

The state of CA says

here (warning: link is to a pdf file)

The charge for California Redemption Value (CRV) is not a deposit, but a fee imposed on the distributor of the beverage. The fee is passed along to the retailer and to you as the consumer. Although separately stated, the fee is subject to tax as part of the taxable selling price of the beverage.
I think it is BS too. I’m being taxed on a fee that I have to pay. Fuck that.


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by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes. The grocery store does too. It’s not a tax-exempt food.


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by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

you are paying tax cuz of the fuckin bubbles I heard…. now im getting mad

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

So if I go to Subway (god forbid) and order a sandwhich they will ask me if it is for “here” or “to go” and if I answer “to go”, I don’t pay sales tax on it? But if I answer “for here”, I do?

Just want to make sure I am understanding this law/rule correctly.

by Xeifrank on Jan 13, 2012 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

If they actually bother enforcing it yes.

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by regfairfield on Jan 13, 2012 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

and if the sandwich is cold. I think they have to charge you tax on a hot meatball sandwich, for example, no matter what.


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by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

What if I ask for my Sub to be toasted?? Now all of a sudden I gotta pay tax because they turned my sandwich from cold to hot for 5 seconds?

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

why? wow I dont get it at all… I mean, I get what you guys are saying but dam…. fuck it, I want my big mac cold…. next taco tuesday, I was 12 cold tacos please…

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

If I had to bet as to how this all happened, it’s like Dave said. Grocery stores don’t charge tax on essentialls because that seems counter-intuitive (milk, eggs, bread, etc.) Restaurants were always taxed. At some point there became a grey area where places like Starbucks functioned somewhat like a grocery store selling water and other items, so they argued customers shouldn’t have to be taxed for shopping at their stores. The hot/cold fast food thing is probably a product of that, a compromise.

by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

The gray area started with delis, long before there were any Starbucks.


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by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Thee's nothing worse

than something grey at a deli

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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Jan 13, 2012 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Other than the hair of the waitresses. Unless of course it is in your Reuben.


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by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

So it really isn’t the food (cold, hot) you are getting taxed on, it is the decision as to where you eat it? Cold food becomes hot food if you eat it there? Nutso. This system needs to be gamed.

by Xeifrank on Jan 13, 2012 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Hot food is taxed no matter what.

by silverwidow on Jan 13, 2012 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes, please address the cold part of my question then.

I but a cold sandwich. It is by legal definitions, a cold sandwich. Cashier asks me if I want to eat in or out. If I say “in” then sandwich becomes “hot” and is taxed. If I say “out” then sandwich remains cold and is not taxed. So does the location of where I eat my cold sandwich determine if it is “cold” or “hot” and taxed? If so, I am going to try to game this. Someone tells me to eat it outside, they can call the cops.

by Xeifrank on Jan 13, 2012 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Is gaming this really worth your time? Just pay them and enjoy your meal in peace.

by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

fuck the policesandwich makers

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Jan 13, 2012 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

it’s definitely worth it. I’ll wear a disguise and keep the bail bonds number handy though.

by Xeifrank on Jan 13, 2012 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Deciding at what point the retailer did a sufficient amount of work to require tax is arbitrary, so they came up with the standard of applying heat. It may be a dumb standard, but it at least applies uniformity to the definition of “preparation.”

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by Nolij on Jan 13, 2012 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Congrats on saving 55 cents?

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by regfairfield on Jan 13, 2012 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

or

11 bazooka joe’s!

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by Ivdown on Jan 13, 2012 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

it all adds up. $1.65 a week compounded over a 50 year period could cost you Section 11 seats at a Lakers/Clippers game.

by Xeifrank on Jan 13, 2012 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Brown bag it.


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by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

This reminds me

of Seinfeld’s dad, fuming about $50 Uncle Leo didn’t pay his sister 40 years before.

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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Jan 13, 2012 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

It becomes “served to you” and is then taxable.


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by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Just like your salad at the restaurant.


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by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

No wonder I dont get taxed on my weed…. I dont get it hot.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I guess when you turn the restaurant into a grocer, you stop paying tax.


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by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

All you can eat

more like all you can tax, amirite?

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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Jan 13, 2012 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, I ate the sandwich outside and even bought a Frappuccino when I was done. So not totally cheating the system.

by silverwidow on Jan 13, 2012 1:12 PM PST up reply actions  

not cheating at all if you bought a drink

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Jan 13, 2012 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Do fastfood places charger more if you eat there, or get it to go?? Someone trying to tell me they charge more if you order to go… I dont believe it. If anything they would charge more to eat there I would think.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

McDonald's

has a “take out” tax, whatever that means.

by silverwidow on Jan 13, 2012 1:10 PM PST up reply actions  

so it is true… I dont get it… If you eat there, you can keep refilling your soda, get endless ketchup, napkins, go to the bathroom, and dirty up the place…. Why do they charge for you to get it to go??

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

What the hell are you talking about?


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by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Im saying I dont get how a fastfood place charges extra when you take food to go, rather then eat it there.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 1:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Not you, silverwidow.


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by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

My receipt on drive-thru orders says “take out tax.”. I rarely eat in over there so haven’t noticed a difference.

by silverwidow on Jan 13, 2012 1:18 PM PST up reply actions  

No wonder people actually eat at these places… I always though why are people eating here, thats why we got drivethrus

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 1:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Wrong. They eat there so their kids can run wild in the playground thing.


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by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, yeah in those cases that have playgrounds… those seem to be dying now….. or I understand lunch break as well.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Also, I hate drive thru lanes unless they are empty or about one deep or the lines inside are obviously way longer. I always park, walk in and get my food to go.


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by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

My car is for driving, not waiting in.

That would be more impressive if my car was snazzy instead of a commuter car.


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by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

But your boots are made for walkin…. so why do you want to stand waiting inside?

by Xeifrank on Jan 13, 2012 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

People watching.


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by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

if there is a Dodgers, Angels, Lakers game on the radio… I can make it through about four cars, but otherwise with you.

by Xeifrank on Jan 13, 2012 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

If the Dodgers are playing, it is my wife’s job to pick up the to-go food.


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by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s the normal sales tax for hot prepared food. It you get a salad in there or a yogurt, it might not be taxed. They probably have both a “take out tax” and a “here tax” button on the register, with each taxing items as appropriate.


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by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

As reg says above, you’re paying the tax for all “hot” food anyway (like McDonalds.) A sandwich place can avoid charging the tax if you take it away.

by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

why does it matter hot food, cold food?

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Hot food requires preparation (i.e. cooking). Cold food could be just a soda from the fridge.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 13, 2012 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

weird… but at Jersey Mikes they slice all that shit up, probably do more work then McDonals people do.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Cold food is the same as there being no sales tax on the food you buy at the grocery store.


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by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Paper bags don’t grow on trees! Oh.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 13, 2012 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

right, I give you the paper bags, but still seems like it costs a company more when you eat there. But maybe not.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Did they tell you this while rining you up?? When did you realize this?

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 1:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I’m used to paying $7.50. Today it was 8 bucks and changed so I called him out on it.

by silverwidow on Jan 13, 2012 1:20 PM PST up reply actions  

And found out that you have been avoiding tax all along by getting it to go.


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by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Nope, previous eat ins were not taxed. This is the impetus of my original post.

by silverwidow on Jan 13, 2012 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Then they were not following the CA tax code and the state probably “called them out on it”.


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by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Property Tax mortgage deduction rules

are finally going to be enforced too. Us homeowners have routinely been deducting all of the property tax we pay, but we are not supposed to. CA is implementing changes that will tell you how much you can deduct. I think we’ll lose about 10% of what we currently deduct.

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Jan 13, 2012 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

boooooooooooooooo

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Jan 13, 2012 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

The way I look at it

I got away with ignoring it for 20 years. I’m glad they aren’t coming for back taxes

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Jan 13, 2012 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

HAHAHA, sometimes it is being old FTMFW!


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by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

Just our state return though, we’re still good with the Fed.


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by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

correct

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Jan 13, 2012 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Nonetheless, screw the state! Let’s stick it TO THE MAN! POWER TO THE PEOPLE!


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by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm so scared I'm going to owe thousands again

I keep getting screwed by my wifes company

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Jan 13, 2012 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Right

and how come my SS check is late!

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Jan 13, 2012 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I'd make a stand

You could get like 10 or more bazooka joe’s for that extra money!

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by Ivdown on Jan 13, 2012 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Kevin Goldstein retweets
Uh-oh. RT @BruceMiles2112: #Cubs change cover of pocket schedules. Castro was on original skeds

by bhsportsguy on Jan 13, 2012 1:05 PM PST reply actions  

Uh oh? Maybe people who carry schedules in their pockets aren’t keen on (alleged) sexual abusers.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 13, 2012 1:10 PM PST up reply actions  

To those who might know about such things, assume somebody like Castro is not famous and is not employed by a powerful company that pays him a lot of money, would the alleged abuse be enough for Department of Immigration to reject a visa to enter the States? They certainly don’t have to abide by “innocent until proven guilty” as they will routinely reject applications for alleged drug traffickers. If so, Castro might not even get back into the country. Belisario sure didn’t.

Anybody know?

by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 1:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought that Castro was in the US already. Maybe they’d revoke his visa or something, but I believe the alleged abuse was in Chicago.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 13, 2012 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes, the incident was in Chicago, but I believe he was out of the country during the off-season.

by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

No, he went back to the Dominican the night after the incident.

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by regfairfield on Jan 13, 2012 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Gotcha.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 13, 2012 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

A guess to some extent

Castro is entering under a work visa for a specialized type of work (one not readily accessible by an existing citizen). As far as legal entanglements go, I don’t know, but my hunch the Cubs and Castro’s rep will have kept Dept of Homeland Security in the loop to make sure they are no problems.

I thought the tweet meant Castro could be dealt.

by bhsportsguy on Jan 13, 2012 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Crazy, Snooki is now a boxing promoter….. If anyone can get this Mayweather-Pac Man fight done, its Snooki

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 1:10 PM PST reply actions  

Just had a pastrami pizza at Uncle Ernie’s. Blind order, it was friggin great, pickels on a pizza. RULES

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 1:16 PM PST reply actions  

Uncle Ernie’s?


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by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Sandwich/Pizza place on Lassen / Topanga. Highly recommend.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 1:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Ah, I’ve seen it but never gone in. I have bought doughnuts in that strip mall before.


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by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

That might as well be Mars for me

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Jan 13, 2012 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

[x]


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by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

If Rangers sign both Yu and Prince the AL West top two teams are going to kick the Beasts from the Easts Asses from one coast to another.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 1:17 PM PST reply actions  

AL wild-card race should be a doozie this year.

by Xeifrank on Jan 13, 2012 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Speaking of which. When do we find out when the two wild-card thingy begins?

by Xeifrank on Jan 13, 2012 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

They have to decide by some point in March but I forgot the date.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 1:45 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Historically

this has not been the case. Most races, even Wild Card ones are well decided before the last two weeks. 2011 was remarkable that it came down to the last day, of course if Boston and Tampa Bay were already wild cards, than they probably would have played the last few games differently. Same thing for Atlanta and St. Louis.

by bhsportsguy on Jan 13, 2012 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

at least once we go to the two wild-card system we will in effect have a “play in” game in both the AL and NL. People went nuts over the one game winner take alls we had this past year… soon it will be a gaurantee. It will just be called something else.

by Xeifrank on Jan 13, 2012 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh god.

I have an indoor soccer game on Sunday night… then an indoor soccer game on Saturday night. I haven’t played soccer or really done much of any exercise since November.

In retrospect, that seems like a bad decision.

by fbihop on Jan 13, 2012 1:33 PM PST reply actions  

Is indoor soccer and futsol 2 different things??

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Video

Indoor soccer

Fustal

Futsal has a heavier ball that really doesn’t bounce and there is out of bounds lines. Indoor soccer is played in something like a hockey rink. Out of bounds is over the walls or (in smaller places) if it hits the ceiling.

And no, you can’t check people into the boards.

by fbihop on Jan 13, 2012 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

6 days between games shouldn’t be a biggie, right?

by Xeifrank on Jan 13, 2012 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Meant Monday night. No idea why I said Saturday night.

by fbihop on Jan 13, 2012 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

You’re fatigued just thinking about it.


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by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Ok, makes more sense. Did you guys have a lockout too? :)

by Xeifrank on Jan 13, 2012 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Outdoor season ended in November, teams couldn’t get into the first winter indoor season… so we waited until the second winter season.

Just realized for a week or two I will be playing and outdoor game on Sunday, indoor on Sunday night and indoor on Monday night.

by fbihop on Jan 13, 2012 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Speaking of grocery stores and Clayton Kershaw

Apparently he is signing copies of his new book Sunday at the Ralph’s in Porter Ranch (on Rinaldi).


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 1:49 PM PST reply actions  

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