Salary Arbitration Eligible Dodgers: Clayton Kershaw
Classify this one as a good problem to have: Clayton Kershaw is too good for salary arbitration.
The salary arbitration process was built to create a system of compensation for players not yet eligible for free agency, a system built around finding comparable players, in performance and service time. The system wasn't built for truly unique players, the outliers, the incomparable ones. Players like Clayton Kershaw.
There is one truly comparable player to Kershaw, a fellow special circumstance. But we'll get to him in a second.
Kershaw has three years, 105 days of service time, and is eligible for salary arbitration the first time in his career. It's hard to imagine a better launch season than the one from Kershaw in 2011: He was 21-5 with a 2.28 ERA and 248 strikeouts, winning the pitching triple crown and the National League Cy Young Award, and added a Gold Glove for good measure. One way or another, Kershaw is going to make some serious coin in 2012. They only question is, how much?
There is a pretty solid set of five pitchers that I think are roughly comparable to Kershaw. Here are their career numbers heading into their first year of arbitration eligibility.
| Pitcher | Thru Year | Svc Time | IP | W-L | BB | K | ERA | ERA+ | WHIP | bWAR | fWAR | Salary |
| Clayton Kershaw | 2011 | 3.105 | 716 | 47-28 | 278 | 748 | 2.88 | 135 | 1.173 | 16.9 | 17.1 | ??? |
| Jered Weaver | 2009 | 3.127 | 672 | 51-27 | 198 | 546 | 3.73 | 120 | 1.249 | 14.6 | 12.9 | $4,265 |
| Cole Hamels | 2008 | 2.143 | 543 | 38-23 | 144 | 518 | 3.43 | 132 | 1.136 | 10.4 | 10.8 | $4,350 |
| Justin Verlander | 2008 | 3.002 | 600 | 46-34 | 219 | 477 | 4.11 | 111 | 1.328 | 8.9 | 10.7 | $3,675 |
| Felix Hernandez | 2008 | 3.060 | 666 | 39-36 | 216 | 593 | 3.80 | 114 | 1.319 | 12.4 | 14.2 | $3,800 |
| Dontrelle Willis | 2005 | 2.143 | 594 | 46-27 | 174 | 451 | 3.27 | 125 | 1.254 | 11.4 | 12.3 | $4,350 |
King Felix and Verlander were pitchers on similar paths at this point in their careers, accomplished with the promise of something more ahead. Each would win 19 games the very next year - Hernandez finished second in AL Cy Young balloting, with Verlander third - and each would cash in with five-year contracts worth $78 million and $80 million, respectively, in the following offseason. Hernandez would win the Cy Young Award in 2010, Verlander would win the award in 2011.
Kershaw already has a Cy Young Award.
Weaver stepped into the Angels rotation and started winning from day one, compiling impressive numbers at this point in his career. Cole Hamels did the same, and added the title of postseason hero to his resume by pitching the Phillies to a World Series win in 2008. As a Super Two, Hamels tied the record for highest salary by a first-time arbitration-eligible pitcher, set by Willis three years earlier. Willis was a whirlwind his first few years, and won 22 games in his launch year in 2005, finishing second in the Cy Young voting.
Kershaw won a Cy Young Award, and won 21 games in his launch year, and has career numbers that are better than anyone on this list. Kershaw is going to get paid much more than these five pitchers, but again the question is, how much?
That brings us to the benchmark for Kershaw: Tim Lincecum.
Lincecum, a college pitcher from the University of Washington, was drafted in 2006, the same year as Kershaw, getting picked four picks later by the Giants. Within a year, he was in the San Francisco rotation to stay. In Lincecum's first full season, in 2008, he won the Cy Young Award, and followed that up with another Cy Young Award one year later. Two full seasons produced two Cy Young Awards, giving Lincecum the ultimate negotiating hammer come arbitration time.
| Pitcher | Thru Year | Svc Time | IP | W-L | BB | K | ERA | ERA+ | WHIP | bWAR | fWAR | Salary |
| Clayton Kershaw | 2011 | 3.105 | 716 | 47-28 | 278 | 748 | 2.88 | 135 | 1.173 | 16.9 | 17.1 | ??? |
| Tim Lincecum |
2009 | 2.148 | 599 | 40-17 | 217 | 676 | 2.90 | 151 | 1.151 | 15.2 | 18.7 | $9,000 |
Lincecum signed a two-year deal after 2009 worth $23 million, that paid him $8 million in 2010 and $13 million in 2011, with a $2 million signing bonus. For purposes of finding Lincecum's 2010 salary, I have spread his signing bonus across both years of his contract. But no matter how you slice it, Lincecum absolutely obliterated the previous record of $4.35 million for a pitcher in his first year of arbitration eligibility.
That brings us to Kershaw, who has bulk numbers that surpass those of Lincecum in many cases, and one could make a completely reasonable argument that Kershaw has accomplished more than Lincecum and could ask for the moon, and get it.
And they might be right. But I think it will come down to special accomplishments.
Ryan Howard was a Super Two following the 2007 season, meaning he was in the top 17% of players in service time among those with at least two but not quite three years of major league service. That got him an extra-year of arbitration eligibility. He won Rookie of the Year in 2005 despite playing a near-McCoveyan 88 games, then captured the NL MVP award in his first full season, smashing 58 home runs and driving in 149 RBI in 2006. Howard followed up his MVP campaign with another eye-popping season of 47 home runs and 136 RBI in 2007, and went into arbitration looking to get paid.
The Phillies offered a salary of $7 million, which would have been a record for a player of Howard's service time. Howard's camp countered with a request for $10 million. And won. The special accomplishment of Howard's MVP award certainly contributed to his arbitration victory, but there was a thought at the time that Howard's win would artificially skew arbitration salaries upward.
But it hasn't happened. Nobody with anywhere close to Howard's service time has come away with a salary anywhere close to Howard's $10 million. What it did do was skew Howard's salaries higher through his arbitration years, and led to a massive five-year, $125 million extension that is only beginning this year. Howard remains the outlier.
Like Lincecum.
I think Kershaw should and will get paid much more than those first five comparable pitchers I listed above. In fact, I think he will blow them away. But I do think Lincecum leads in the special accomplishment category, that his two Cy Young Awards give him a trump card over Kershaw's one award.
I have thought Kershaw would max out at $8 million in 2012, but let's give him a bonus for his bulk numbers in comparison to Lincecum. I'll guess Kershaw's 2012 salary as $8.5 million, but all it takes is a solid arbitration argument by Kershaw's team and a three-person panel willing to be swayed and he could almost make a case for whatever he wants.
What's your guess for Kershaw's salary in 2012?
Thanks as always to Cot's Contracts, Baseball-Reference, and FanGraphs.
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$8.4 million projection
Eric, I actually have him at $8.4 million in the model I did for MLBTR:
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/10/pitchers-arbitration-salaries.html
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/11/projected-arbitration-salaries.html
The model basically compares him to Tim Lincecum more than anybody else. IP the most important thing for pitchers pretty much, though wins are close. Although the ERA+ pales compared to Linecum, it didn’t seem like that really mattered anywhere near as much as the highly comparable ERA. It’s basically Lincecum’s two Cys to Kershaws’ one vs. Lincecum’s 40 W & 599 IP to Kershaw’s 47 & 716.
seems like a fairly easy case to make with the arbitration panel if you’re clayton’s agent.
“The Cy Young is an award that can’t be won based on personal achievement alone. It is won in an environment that changes every season based on the performance of each pitcher’s offense and other pitchers and their offenses, neither of which Clayton Kershaw has any control over. However, if you compare the raw stats that he does control to those of the other elite pitchers in the game, not just the elite young pitchers, you’ll see he rates better than all of them and should be paid as such.”
Dodgers could also argue Win% vs Wins. 7 more wins vs 11 more losses.
Since Kershaw has a whole extra year of service time than Lincecum had at that time, I wonder how much those stats matter. The averages of wins and strikeouts for Clayton are lower than Tim’s, even though the overall number is higher now.
Dodgers best arbitration argument
would be to just pull down their pants in the arbitration hearing.
by Xeifrank on Jan 13, 2012 8:26 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Xeifrank vs. Alex Tamin
One will crunch the numbers, the other will get NUMBERCRUNCHED!!!!!!!!
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 13, 2012 7:52 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
But not special assistant in charge of half-baked limericks
That job is taken!
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by Humma Kavula on Jan 13, 2012 10:00 AM PST up reply actions
Arbitration
Is still an art since the arbitrator can only accept one side’s figure. My hunch is that they never see the inside of a conference room.
by bhsportsguy on Jan 13, 2012 8:08 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
A look back from January 2010
FYI
I added 2012 to the payroll worksheet. Keep in mind those are just rough estimates and a lot can change in two years (just ask Russell Martin).
by Eric Stephen on Jan 24, 2010 9:30 AM PST via mobile actions
Kershaw
I’m not going to lie…I feel like $4M for Kershaw in 2012 is a little low. If stays on the pace he’s on now, he’ll be getting closer to Lincecum money rather than Billingsley money (even if he doesn’t win 2 Cy Youngs)
by Brandon Lennox on Jan 25, 2010 8:20 AM PST up actions
We don’t really know what Lincecum money is yet, and I don’t see how Kershaw gets to that point anyway. Lincecum is the "there a no comps for this guy" type pitcher particularly because of the 2 Cy Youngs and the fact that his is the best pitcher in the NL. Don’t see how Kershaw would compare closer to Lincecum than Billingsley.
by Michael White on Jan 25, 2010 8:53 AM PST up actions
I’m not saying he’ll get Lincecum money, but rather he’ll be closer to Lincecum than Billingsley in his first year of arbitration. Billingsley got $3.850M and let’s just say that Lincecum ends up with $11M. I really think Kershaw is going to be more comparable to Lincecum than Billingsley over the next two years…and that isn’t even taking into account any increase for salaries in the next two years. Basically I think Kershaw gets at least $6M in arbitration in 2012, and probably even more.
by Brandon Lennox on Jan 25, 2010 9:11 AM PST up actions
Lincecum doesn’t even have three full service years yet (the point Kershaw will be at after 2011). He really is the outlier, and his current Super Two status only adds to that.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 25, 2010 9:36 AM PST up actions
Without a Cy Young award (or two), Kershaw will be relegated to the world of mere mortals for his comparables.
Look at Billingsley, even with a disappointing 2nd half last year, his credentials are still excellent: 47 wins, 119 ERA+. For Kershaw to match that win total, he would have to have 34 wins in the next two years, something no Dodger has done since 1991 (Ramon Martinez had 37 wins from 1990-1991). Like it or not, wins matter in arbitration hearings. Now, Kershaw could get close (Park had 33 in 2000-2001, Penny and Nomo had 32), but the point is, he’s unlikely to be so far and away the Billingsley-Felix-Verlander level that he sets a new precedent in the $6 million range.
Unless, of course, he wins a CYA. But, until that happens, I’m keeping my estimate at $4 million.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 25, 2010 10:18 AM PST up actions
Fair enough
You make good points and it helped me realize that you are right in that Kershaw won’t be getting in the $8M+. However, I think he’ll be good enough over the next two years to get himself in a level beyond Billingsley at the same stage in their career, which would pay him the $6M that I’m guessing. We’ll just have to wait and see!
by Brandon Lennox on Jan 25, 2010 12:14 PM PST up actions
by Brandon Lennox on Jan 13, 2012 8:05 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
since SBN doesn't archive past 3 months anymore, I want to know what other clips Brandon has stored on his hard drive.
I figure his apartment must look something like this

haha
there is still a full archive at the bottom of the page, you just can’t search for things that are more than 3 months old I believe. That being said, I’ve always remembered this conversation and remembered the month we had it so it was pretty easy to find
by Brandon Lennox on Jan 13, 2012 8:16 AM PST up reply actions
Fucker had to get exactly 34 wins the last two years. Haha :)
by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 8:30 AM PST up reply actions
Why is Broxton arguing Kershaw’s arbitration case?
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by Humma Kavula on Jan 13, 2012 10:02 AM PST up reply actions
Fucking Torre.
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by Humma Kavula on Jan 13, 2012 10:14 AM PST up reply actions
Not a fan of Clayton traveling to Africa. At this point I want him in a big bubble only to be opened on Feb 20th. Let Loney travel.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
he did it last year
And won the CY
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 13, 2012 8:18 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
I think this might be Maddz line
HE KISSED THE RAINS, PHIL
HE KISSED THE RAINS
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 8:20 AM PST up reply actions
I don’t even like them driving themselves
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
What if they’re going to get some supersecret surgery that allows them to have the three highest-scoring games in the league?
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Stupid Dwight Howard, ruining that nugget last night.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 9:17 AM PST up reply actions
I’d been more impressed if had broken the record for free throws made in a game and not simply attempts.
Golden State coach must believe in hack a shitty free thrower since he did it on opening night with Jordan very very early in the 2nd half. I’d think a point guard would understand how that kills the flow of a game, and giving a superior team plenty of rest time at the foul circle might not be the greatest strategy. At 3 – 7 he may want to re-think it.
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Lakers v Clippers
Looking for love er tickets
have a business associate in town that wants to go
Figured this was a long shot, but I’d ask here before I got raped on Stubhub
yeah, and I gotta do much better on a ticket than that
I tried to sway him to the Cleveland game tonight, he wasn’t buying that as being as fun
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 8:21 AM PST up reply actions
Does
it come out of your pocket or companies? Tax write off? Trying to think of how you can hedge the costs. Maybe stage a hostage taking bank robbery on the way to the game. Tough luck, we couldn’t make it to the game on time type of thing. Help me here.
this one will be all me
I don’t mind either, I just want a good deal
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 8:33 AM PST up reply actions
I am so with you on that
too bad I have proven myself to have warning track power when I crush the ball – sucks, damn wood bats.
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 8:39 AM PST up reply actions
I am a natural dead pull hitter, have taught myself gap to gap power (for me)
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 8:41 AM PST up reply actions
Thanks. We will play a shift against you in February. We will pull the outfielders in when the mods come up. :)
oh, softball
well, really you should be able to hit the ball pretty much everywhere you want
right?
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 8:48 AM PST up reply actions
To bad you committed to Dodger THoughts based on the fanpost. We have already lost two of those who said they could play SS.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
see
that is what i was saying too
happy to play either
When is this game again?
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 8:54 AM PST up reply actions
We need an update to see who has paid so we can see what kind of team we have and how many. I only got a few replies to my email and those were mostly from members saying the schedule no longer worked for them, so not sure who is in and who is not at this point.
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I checked
Saturday Feb 11th
I have paid
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 9:08 AM PST up reply actions
Put me and Gary on the left side – we can cover 3rd / SS in any combo you’d like
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 8:54 AM PST up reply actions
Phil
I’ve been putting it off because of some bills, but do you know if I can wait till around monday or tuesday to pay the entrance fee?
TBLA 2011 Postseason Prediction Champion
Yes, I expect you can wait until the last minute. The key is that you need the paid email to present so they let you play.
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Like a print out of it? I got your email then one from the other guy (mike I believe?) so I will email him back and let him know i plan to pay once I get paid.
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I think the site has something like a Jan 28th deadline to signup. I would email the guy running the tournament through LFP to find out details of late payments. After you pay you get a confirmation email (receipt) that you are suppose print out and bring to the tournament as proof that you paid.
Oh ok, cool, thanks
I emailed him letting him know I will be paying within the next 4 or 5 days, so hopefully that should be fine.
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The link to pay has a list of people who have donated
Also you were copied in the email with me and others saying we have not paid yet (this was last week).
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You have not paid
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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 11:01 AM PST up reply actions
I didn’t commit to any team. I was placed on DT, my second choice since at the time TBLA had a full roster. I’m happy just to play. Hopefully Jon plays along with a few of his MLB calibur minions over at DT. :)
I would reply here with a comment about what I call Sweet Sweet Jack, but I want to keep my job.
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by Humma Kavula on Jan 13, 2012 10:04 AM PST up reply actions
that sounds like a canadian seven and seven
just replace jack daniels with crown royale
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
unlike an AMF
which is Sweet Sweet Yack
by G.Scott on Jan 13, 2012 10:09 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Gonna catch Sweet Sweet Yack at Coachella.
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by regfairfield on Jan 13, 2012 10:09 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
lies, all lies
Even a “bad” AMF is better that most drinks.
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I’m aware of your opinion on the subject, understand it completely, but will continue giving you shit about it anyway.
This favorite drink of yours is so weird.
by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 10:22 AM PST up reply actions
It’s like JD defending the apple-tini
by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 10:23 AM PST up reply actions
As a Scrubs fan I take this only as a compliment :)
Let me ask, have you had an entire AMF before?
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No. Trying somebody else’s was plenty
by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 10:24 AM PST up reply actions
Just a taste isn't enough
Though I’m sure I won’t convince you
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I will defend girly cocktails until the day I die.
My lady likes girly cocktails and I can get her good and drunk if I make a shaker of girly cocktails and help her finish it.
My first choice? No sir. But often a welcome one.
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by Humma Kavula on Jan 13, 2012 10:25 AM PST up reply actions
It's hard to say an AMF is a girly drink
it is blue, but it has (if it’s made right and not shitty) 4 or 5 types of alcohol in it and is super strong and tasty (again if made right).
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It’s incredibly easy to say AMF is a girly drink.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 10:30 AM PST up reply actions
it is bright fucking blue and comes with a cherry. the umbrella and tampons are implied.
by G.Scott on Jan 13, 2012 10:33 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
dude its a girly drink
I don’t think you know what a girly drink is defined as. Just get over it.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Also this
There is nothing wrong with drinking a girly drink. Nothing at all.
HJ likes a Negroni and that is bright red. I like a Sidecar and that is made from Cognac. Just tell everybody that all the ladies seem to like your blue girly drink and you’re fine.
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by Humma Kavula on Jan 13, 2012 10:38 AM PST up reply actions
I don't drink so excuse my ignorance
but really the brightness and color of a beverage is what makes it “girly?” That’s just fucking stupid.
by court168627 on Jan 13, 2012 10:39 AM PST up reply actions
Considering this whole discussion is kinda stupid, yeah. That said, if we are to accept that a drink can be girly, what else would make it girly other than brightness and color?
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by Humma Kavula on Jan 13, 2012 10:41 AM PST up reply actions
i guess you said.
this whole discussion is kinda stupid.
by court168627 on Jan 13, 2012 10:41 AM PST up reply actions
No offense to the ladies, but if I ever find a vagina in my drink, I am not drinking that drink.
Vaginas are vaginas and drinks are drinks and never the twain shall meet.
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by Humma Kavula on Jan 13, 2012 10:43 AM PST up reply actions
I get no kick from champagne….
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by Humma Kavula on Jan 13, 2012 10:46 AM PST up reply actions
“manly” is drinking it straight. So any drink that maintains the color of the alcohol is on the “manly” side of the spectrum. IMO
Sorry
I don’t think you’re more of a man for drinking straight up whiskey when I’m drinking a blue drink that is much stronger
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I don't think anyone is more manly then someone else
based on what they drink. True story.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
The light beer commercials amuse me
Here’s how it should go:
Hey bro, why aren’t you drinking the same thing we are?
Who cares?
Yeah, you’re right.
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for me – Girly is not color but flavor
A Negroni is a bitter bitch with nothing but booze in it. It sucks all the sweet of the world and leaves your mouth ready for food
Girly, for me, is drinks that are overly sweet to cloak the booze, so that you can drop your panties and not feel like a hooker
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 10:40 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
i guess i'll just bite my tongue then
the terms of this discussion just seem so subtley (or not so subtley) gross to me
by court168627 on Jan 13, 2012 10:41 AM PST up reply actions
Right
This is why Long Island Iced Tea was a “girlie drink” when I was the puppy’s age.
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by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 11:59 AM PST up reply actions
It's got more of a sweet taste
which is why it could lean that way more. AMFs are much more sour
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It will fuck you up
not a girly drink. Besides, I don’t a fuck what anyone thinks about it, I will still say it’s not.
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Ok
I don’t care what people think of me drinking it, I drink Mikes Hard Lemonade at parties and love it cause that shit is delicious, lol.
I still argue it’s not a girly drink because that’s my opinion on it.
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I’m aware of your opinion on the subject, understand it completely, but will continue giving you shit about it anyway.
Favorite food: KFC Famous Bowl
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by regfairfield on Jan 13, 2012 10:57 AM PST up reply actions
One of the cool things about only using the internet and netflix, is I don’t ever see an add for awful fast food ideas.
the kfc famous bowl is a wonder
of modern engineering. You take that back.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Patton Oswalt
Has made me unable to do anything but laugh at them
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 13, 2012 11:04 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
I make something called an Iron Sheik
2 parts vodka
1 part midori
Finish with 7up.
This is an incredibly strong drink that’s also bright green and horrifically sweet. It’s girly as all hell.
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by regfairfield on Jan 13, 2012 10:37 AM PST up reply actions
Having 4 alcohols doesn’t make it stronger.
1 vodka + 1 gin + 1 tequila + 1 whiskey is roughly the same strength as 4x Vodka or whatever.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
And the blue curaçao liqueur is weaker than straight hard liquor.
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by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 12:01 PM PST up reply actions
My favorite soda is mixing all of them in one cup at the big gulp machine.
Then throwing a couple sugar packets in there.
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by regfairfield on Jan 13, 2012 10:25 AM PST up reply actions
Finally, Eric and Tommy can agree on Pepper-related minutia.
Kumbaya!
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by Humma Kavula on Jan 13, 2012 10:31 AM PST up reply actions
I know
Way to ruin good root beer
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 13, 2012 10:32 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Normally I'd say Dr Pepper is the best on it's own
But that combo sounds like it could be great.
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i love both on their own.
but combined is a totally different animal. not better or worse, just something new to try.
by court168627 on Jan 13, 2012 10:32 AM PST up reply actions
Yes, my favorite mix when I indulge in a soda fountain
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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 11:05 AM PST up reply actions
A friend of mine used to call this “bubble gum soda” (without the sugar packets)
by court168627 on Jan 13, 2012 10:35 AM PST up reply actions
Odd that Moore County (including Lynchburg) is a dry county.
by jim hitchcock (railway) on Jan 13, 2012 10:14 AM PST up reply actions
True or False: one of the reasons I could not stand living in Boston was that one cannot buy alcohol on Sundays.
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by Humma Kavula on Jan 13, 2012 10:15 AM PST up reply actions
Bonus true or false: I hold Chick-Fil-A in similar contempt.
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by Humma Kavula on Jan 13, 2012 10:16 AM PST up reply actions
You can't order a drink
at Chick-Fil-A on Sundays? That’s bullshit
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
False. Chick-Fil-A doesn’t sell gin or fancy cheese
by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 10:31 AM PST up reply actions
you are a baller HJ, what does price matter? Then you can brag about how much you spent on them all game haha
Best business strategy when taking a partner/client out to an event: they already know the tickets are expensive, don’t mention it, not even once. They’ll appreciate the gesture and won’t have to feel like you’re suggesting they owe you something. They already want to do business with you or they wouldn’t be there.
yes and yes
and for the record, I hate paying full price for anything, and always love a bargain.
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 8:32 AM PST up reply actions
yes I know I was kidding. But seriously, if you have the money, then why stress on finding deals?? Its like the episode where Kourtney Kardashian joined a coupon club…. I find it insulting that anyone with that kind of money uses coupons.
What is the old phrase? A fool and his money are soon parted?
by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 8:36 AM PST up reply actions
dude, I was raised in the Granada Gardens on Chatsworth and Hayvenhurst streets, that was HUD housing. Nice projects, in a nice suburban neighborhood, but government low income housing none the less
The only silver spoon I ever saw had Erin Grey in it
I have never, and hopefully will never, ever, stop looking at prices
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 8:38 AM PST up reply actions
its all good man, but in this case this is a hot game, and will be hard to get a good deal on…. its a saturday night too, alot of people want to go to this game. But I hope you find something.
In no way would I call myself rich at all
I ain’t poor, but far from rich, and miles and miles away from wealthy
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 8:43 AM PST up reply actions
low income in aliso viejo
is considered basically anything below 50k. Wat.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
The Lakers were looking for Love too, apparently.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
I’d say try the Ticketmaster Exchange where season ticket holders resell their tickets but it seems to be down at the moment. Usually better prices then Stubhub.
My partner has all four tickets this Saturday so I can’t help you.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
thx Phil – right now better seats cheaper on Stubhub
strange
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 8:49 AM PST up reply actions
I’d say this is the highest prices any Clipper resellers has ever gotten including the Sam Cassel playoffs. Tis a shame because most of the buyers are Laker fans so it won’t really be a home game for the Clippers. Nothing more deflating then hearing Kobe MVP chants when he’s on the line at your home game.
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Nothing quite like playing it on the Lakers home court and hearing dead silence as you make a late run either.
pretty much… I dont like it that they share Staples and I’d prefer Clips move to the pond…. What do you think Phil?
We have a pool and a pond. The pond would be good for you.
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 9:09 AM PST up reply actions
If they want to lose me as a fan they can move to the pond. I live in LA not Orange County.
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love doesn’t not know borders Phil
lines on a map don’t mean lines in our hearts
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 9:11 AM PST up reply actions
Einstein told me that time and space are the same thing.
Still chasing the dream of mediocrity
by Humma Kavula on Jan 13, 2012 10:06 AM PST up reply actions
Just like mass and energy.
Someday, somebody will tell me that time and space and mass and energy are all the same thing, and I’ll be like, “I KNOW!!”
Still chasing the dream of mediocrity
by Humma Kavula on Jan 13, 2012 10:07 AM PST up reply actions
How can you have any pudding if you don’t eat your meat?
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by Nolij on Jan 13, 2012 10:11 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
since you went there
we got our fill of dark sarcasm around these parts too
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 10:16 AM PST up reply actions
Whatever, I love my Staples seats, if they simply became a team to watch on TV, they might as well be the Saint Louis Rams, and fuck them.
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I’d still be a fan if they moved to Orange County or San Diego since I’d still be able to watch on TV (though I’d probably have to pay for League Pass if they went to SD) and go to the occasional game. If they moved to Seattle, I’d move on.
by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 9:15 AM PST up reply actions
Moot point, we have already documented how much DTS loves the team in LA and has zero interest in having to watch his team play in Orange County. Say what you will about DTS he is a LA man and enjoys the LA world.
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Agreed, completely moot point. DTS isn’t going anywhere.
Just playing out the hypotheticals.
by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 9:20 AM PST up reply actions
The people of Brooklyn are divided on that opinion.
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by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 12:06 PM PST up reply actions
yes! I love that OC hate! But honestly, it doesnt bother you seeing Laker jerseys and banners hanging in a place that is suppose to be your home court? I wouldnt like it… I know other teams share stadiums, but IMO every pro team should have its own arena, stadium, etc…..
get greener than the buds in your stash
re-use is greenest buds of all
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 9:13 AM PST up reply actions
Actually reusing weed is what we call resin and you get this by scraping out your pipe with a paper clip, or whatever works…. but its black, not green…Still, its a great way to get high when low on cash. I havent done that in awhile though.
weed are the players, pay salaries for enjoyment, but ultimately they are transient and consumable
Stadiums are pipes (or smoking device of your choice) the question is – why not use the same pipe to smoke as much weed as possible rather than requiring each new baggie of buds to have its own pipe
multi-use facilities in population dense areas are the only way stadiums pencil out at all
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 9:18 AM PST up reply actions
On the one hand, banners everywhere.
On the other hand, a billion dollar investment and moving 30 miles south (when I already live north of LA.)
Ya, I’ll take the banners.
by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 9:13 AM PST up reply actions
haha dont get so technical about it man… im not trying to ruffle any feathers here, im honestly asking.
If you think your own arena is that important, why shouldn’t the Lakers move? After all, Clippers have been in downtown longer while the Lakers were playing in that shit box in Inglewood.
by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 9:18 AM PST up reply actions
Dennis Weaver would slap you in the face right now if he were here.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 9:19 AM PST up reply actions
hahaha Lakers move… that was a good one…. It was built for us… If their was no Lakers, there would be no Staples Center, and you guys would just have to remodel the Sports Arena
If there was no Lakers, everybody in LA would be a Clipper fan, so…..
I don’t you think you thought this through.
by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 9:25 AM PST up reply actions
shit box in Inglewood? Still way better then the Sports Arena…. How long did it take the Sports Arena to get something as simple as a jumbrotron in there building??
The Sports Arena was the worst building I’ve ever watched a basketball game in but as a Clipper fan it had some charm. When you can scream and be heard because there are only 5,000 fans, you can do some real heckling.
I loved the Forum. The band was close so it could be heard, the seats were close, I hated driving there and leaving. I’m glad the Lakers are in downtown LA.
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yeah thats along time ago… I only went there a few times as a kid. One of the games happened to be the day of the riots too… was pretty crazy… I went to sports arena too, when Wilkins and Spud Webb were on the Hawks… just remember no jumbrotron… The coliseum didnt have one either last time I went. Weird to keep forgetting there is no big screen when looking to see a replay.
No it does not bother me. I love everything about Staples. The easy parking, the food, the Time Square vibe they are giving it, easy access out, metro links. All good
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How do you feel about Green Eggs and Ham
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 9:16 AM PST up reply actions
Anaheim isn't that far
Plus the Honda Center is pretty nice
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It’s incredibly far.
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by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 12:09 PM PST up reply actions
Not even
I make the drive once a week, sometimes twice. Just put on some music and you’ll be there in an hour with good traffic, and an hour and a half with bad traffic.
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Dude, I’m just riffing off Moneyball.
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What’s not to love about having to drive an additional hour to see a game?
Really, whatever makes you happy Chris
by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 9:11 AM PST up reply actions
Crowd was very loud in support of the Clippers on Wednesday night. The team has something like 15-17 straight sellouts, and will probably sell out every game this year.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 9:18 AM PST up reply actions
Would wouldn’t want to watch the old timers Van Slyke, Russell, Silverio, and Castle hit eight home runs a game?
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i don't think he did
read he was still a minor league free agent the other day
by Brandon Lennox on Jan 13, 2012 8:35 AM PST up reply actions
I did also.
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by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 12:09 PM PST up reply actions
i might come out again this year
my wife’s dad might be filming a movie in Albuquerque in the next few months which would be a great excuse to go out there
by Brandon Lennox on Jan 13, 2012 8:36 AM PST up reply actions
Looks like he doesn’t have much of a chance to make the big league team.
The 31-year-old Lebron spent the 2011 season within the Royals’ system, appearing in 32 games between tours with Double-A Northwest Arkansas and Triple-A Omaha. Lebron went a combined 4-2 with a 3.02 ERA over 65 2/3 innings, in which he struck out 72 and walked 31. Lebron did not play professionally from 2007-10, but he has previous experience in the organizations of the Rangers, Reds and Cubs.He can, however, hit two free throws in a row in the last two minutes of a game.
Steve Blake's wife
Woke up this morn to the the boys running down the hall “let’s go see if daddy’s rib is still sticking out!!” they’re fascinated by it. lol
they call it "the ol' Sandusky"
hey kid, wanna see my rib sticking out?
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 9:01 AM PST up reply actions
Hey!
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Great article
I don’t know what will happen with Kershaw. I would love to maintain our history of good faith with CK. I don’t know how a settlement on this year’s salary would affect the arbitration market/CK’s future/etc., but I’d like to see a one-year deal as a precursor to a mammoth one next offseason (or earlier if a new owner comes soon). With all the uncertainty about ownership, I’m looking at next offseason as the time to lock him up. Priority #1 and #1A.
At this time next year, Clayton Kershaw will be locked up for a good long time.
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can we get away with
a million per year for 25 years?
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 9:11 AM PST up reply actions
Nice synergy with one of the potential new owners.
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by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 12:12 PM PST up reply actions
That does seem like the play. Hopefully there’s an agreement this year which buys LAD some time to flush out the ownership issues and then CK can be locked up and set for life.
by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 9:12 AM PST up reply actions
Does Man From Uncle count as a M detective, because if so they top my list. Strictly nostalgia, I have not seen that show in 40 years at least but I loved it as a kid.
To top it off I was taught how to scuba dive by Illya Kuryakin’s son back in 1985.
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Mannix
I used to pretend I was MannixI as I would roll down hill and come up shooting.
by bhsportsguy on Jan 13, 2012 9:52 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Macguyver
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 13, 2012 9:31 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Mannix
which also had the best theme song.
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by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 12:13 PM PST up reply actions
I test drove a Subaru Brat that Mike Conners owned at one time. Before we decided to buy a new one in 1982.
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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 12:17 PM PST up reply actions
Staples Center workers get Sunday to rest
Saturday night’s Lakers/Clippers showdown ends a string of 17 consecutive days with at least one sporting event at Staples Center.
From December 29 through Saturday, there will have been 18 games in 17 days, with 7 Lakers home games, 6 Kings home games, and 5 Clippers home games.
But after Sunday, Monday’s MLK holiday brings two more games to Staples, with the Clips/Nets in the afternoon and Lakers/Mavs at night.
Helps make up for lost wages in Novemeber/December
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parking attendants must be happy. all those reporters who interviewed them when they were sad should do followup articles
by Josie Becker on Jan 13, 2012 9:33 AM PST up reply actions
The guys in the lot I go to
Were still working. Just not as many cars. The real hurt was felt by local bars and restaurants.
by bhsportsguy on Jan 13, 2012 9:55 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
I wonder if alot of those workers also work at Dodger Stadium… otherwise what do you do in the offseason? Or are these mostly side jobs for people?
basically a side job it is not economically sustainable for it to be your only source of income as a breadwinner, but does work as a great part time gig for students or second job for others.
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Food concessions at both DS and Staples are run by Levy and they employ the concessions workers. I know someone who works for them; she works food concessions at both places and was definitely affected by the NBA strike.
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by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 12:16 PM PST up reply actions
And she has other jobs as well.
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by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 12:16 PM PST up reply actions
I had forgotten about the Lakers’ very odd series with Cleveland last year. They beat the Cavs by 55 in Los Angeles, nearly becoming the second team ever to double another team (112-57), then one month later lost by five in Cleveland not shortly after the Cavs snapped their 26-game losing streak (by beating the Clippers)
The Clipper / Cav game was a nail biter if I remember correctly.
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Couldn’t have been long after that we made the stupid trade cause I’m pretty sure Mo was on the Cav’s when we played em.
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Looking back now, could have kept that pick, drafted Irving, and amnestied B Diddy… Not need to trade for Paul, still have all those players they traded, plus Irving, with a amnestied B Diddy, and still have their own and Wolves 1st round pick.
They would have still traded Paul and it would have been Irving instead of Aminu going to New Orleans.
by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 9:53 AM PST up reply actions
Best PG in the NBA in his prime vs. a rookie?
It’s a no-brainer.
by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 9:56 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah with a bum knee… Paul is still one of best PG in NBA, but alot of people think he isnt as good as he was before the injury. You may be right. But will Clippers age, id rather have Iriving, with Gordon at SG, keeping the depth, and continuing to add to it since Griffin is so young.
Clippers didnt seem very aggressive in going after Paul after they found out the price…. then after the Lakers deal was rejected, decided to get back into it. But seemed like they had some doubts about doing it, so seems to be Clippers have Iriving, they forsure dont get back involved… However, if Clippers had Irving to trade, it may not have cost much more other then Irving to make the trade, so you may be right that they still do it anyways.
by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 10:03 AM PST up reply actions
Are you under the impression that Irving is the next Michael Jordan or something? He was the first pick in a historically weak draft (due to the lockout) and was injured in college. That’s not the kind of guy you say, “fuck it, I don’t need Chris Paul” and it’s not the guy that the Hornets say, “we don’t need Eric Gordon in this deal after all.”
Irving may end up being great, but this wasn’t Lebron James entering his rookie season.
by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 10:07 AM PST up reply actions
Rational decision makers don’t make calls based on 2.8% chances.
There is no way the February 2012 Clippers could have possibly planned for having Kyrie Irving without it being a total guess and dumb luck.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 10:01 AM PST up reply actions
Isnt that what im saying?? I am saying there is no way Clippers could have expected it to be a #1 pick… I agree with you Eric, so the trade was a good move for the Clippers at that time….. However, now that everything has played out, Clippers dont make the trade, they have # 1 pick, and later could have just amnestied B Diddy. So what im saying is true with hindsight, but I agree with you that it was impossible to know any of that then, or think that pick would become the # 1 pick.
by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 10:06 AM PST up reply actions
you seem to be taking my comments as in the Clippers should have known it was going to become a #1 pick, but im not saying that at all… or that im saying Clippers made a mistake…. and im not, im just saying what could have been had that trade not been made, for whatever reason.
by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 10:07 AM PST up reply actions
I assume almost all of your Clippers comments came be summed up as “LOL Clippers”
by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 10:08 AM PST up reply actions
Mike, im not a Clippers fan, so it doesnt matter to me. Im just talking about building a dynasty, a power house. Even with Paul, this team is no sure thing to win this year, or next, and after that, who knows where Paul goes… and this is just for convo sake since Clippers didnt have that #1 pick. So they made the right move…. But if they DID have the #1 pick, no I dont think Irving is Lebron, but he is 19 compared to 26 or whatever Paul is
by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 10:13 AM PST up reply actions
You would have a 23 Jordan, 22 Griffin, 23 Gordan, 19 year old Irving… you still have all your picks, Kaman for depth, … plus with all those young players making not much, then you go for Howard maybe… Jordan, Kaman, and both 1st round picks…
by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 10:15 AM PST up reply actions
anyways, whatever, thats Clipper problems, not my problem… just having fun making conversation…its ok to disagree
by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 10:16 AM PST up reply actions
I’ve sat around for a long time with the Clippers trotting out young bullshit saying, “imagine how good they’l be when….” and it never works out. I’d kind of like to win some basketball games at some point, and that’s what they did. This is classic one in the hand vs. two in the bush. The Clippers have never put a team on the floor like they do now and you think there’s logic to passing that up for the chance that they are even better in the future?
by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 10:15 AM PST up reply actions
ok thats fair enough… yeah see im not a Clipper fan so I dont see things from that angle, but makes sense.
by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 10:21 AM PST up reply actions
Gotcha. That’s how I was reading them.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 10:08 AM PST up reply actions
Would they have been better though? I guess between the amnesty money and guys not traded for Paul, they could have tried to swing a trade for Howard instead.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
I’m glad they didn’t. I really like DeAndre Jordan and Chris Paul is a better playmaker for Griffin while still being able to contribute top notch offense by himself.
I think things have worked out very nicely for the Clips. If they could swing a trade of Mo for a 6th-man-type shooter (I’m thinking like of sort of vintage Dell Curry, but can’t think of who fits that bill today), they’d be almost perfect.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Mo already is a 6th man-type-shooter. The only issue I can see with Mo is that he’s small, but he’s just fine as a scorer.
I do think they’ll end up trading one of Mo, Foye or Bledsoe to round out the rotation. I’d go after a combo 2/3 so Ryan Gomes never has to enter a basketball game. Not sure if that’s what you meant by 6th man type.
Really, JR Smith would be perfect (basketball wise) once his China contract is up.
by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 10:20 AM PST up reply actions
While funny, I’m pretty sure neither Lamar nor Clippers fans would be too happy with a reunion.
Can Odom even play the 3 anymore?
by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 10:26 AM PST up reply actions
I remember Lamar on the Clippers, but wasn’t fan enough to remember any drama. I think he’s someone the city likes and someone that could rotate in behind Griffin and DeAndre (who is the backup PF/C anyway?).
He left Clippers for Miami as a restricted FA… begged Clippers to not match the offer sheet if I recall… might have even said some bad stuff about Clippers… Bridge might be burned.
by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 10:33 AM PST up reply actions
Yes, fuck Odom
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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 11:08 AM PST up reply actions
Evans. Evans is a monster rebounder (like, arguably the best in the NBA), but that’s about it while Lamar is still a top talent in the NBA, at least he was last year. Heck, I’d get him more PT than Jordan anyway because he’s a better player.
He whined his way out the door after he lost his starting PF job to Brand and the Clippers concluded he couldn’t play SF (they kept Brand and Maggette who along with Odom were all RFAs the same year.) He also said leaving LAC was like getting out of prision or something like that.
by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 10:35 AM PST up reply actions
Eh, probably wouldn’t give up more than Foye and I don’t think Houston takes that.
by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 10:44 AM PST up reply actions
Didn’t Kaman say something similar recently?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 13, 2012 10:44 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
wait, so are you not a Laker fan? Because your profile says so…. I dont like false advertising man haha
by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 10:26 AM PST up reply actions
I don’t dislike the Lakers. I’ve been a Lakers fan since Eddie Jones and Nick van Exel, but this Clippers team is exciting and entertaining and I’m rooting for them to do well.
shit, so you are a casual fan. You like bball but it isnt baseball to you. You dont switch to the Angels because they are more exciting atleast right?
by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 10:32 AM PST up reply actions
I like both Dodgers and Angels, and both Lakers and Clippers. Of course I live and die more with the Dodgers and Lakers but consider myself a fan of all four teams and have for a long time.
That should be against the law…. Dont tell me you like USC and UCLA too ha
by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 10:35 AM PST up reply actions
so you are just a true all LA sports fan…. the kind that likes ALL LA sports teams, instead of just 1 LA team in every sport…. not my style but thats cool man…. cant be upset with someone that loves LA.
by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 10:39 AM PST up reply actions
but you have to want to kill all other sports fans
or you aren’t a true fan(read: douchebag)
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
I wont say nothing, but you guys are why we have this rep as fairweather fans…. but I am big on rivalries, cross town rivalries… People say there isnt much of a rivalry until the teams play eachother in postseason, but whatever.
by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 10:42 AM PST up reply actions
Fairweather? We are all commenting on the blog of a team that hasn’t won a championship in 20+ years and is currently in bankruptcy.
by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 10:45 AM PST up reply actions
true, but isnt switching teams depending on who is doing better, or more exciting, also fairweather? maybe not… its all good man, dont trip. and I wasnt talking about you, or everyone.
by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 10:48 AM PST up reply actions
YOU ROOT FOR BOTH TEAMS WHETHER THEY ARE GOOD OR NOT
OKEY DOKEY
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
everyone gets to be the kind of fan they want to be, thats the beauty of life… or living in america I guess.
by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 10:49 AM PST up reply actions
He’s out back doing lines with Bill Murray
Still chasing the dream of mediocrity
by Humma Kavula on Jan 13, 2012 10:50 AM PST up reply actions
My thoughts exactly!
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 13, 2012 10:50 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
I'm not accusing you of this Chris
But I’d rather be thought of as fair weather than a thug who beats up other teams fans.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 13, 2012 10:46 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Congratulations as a Dodger fan you get to be both.
Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jan 13, 2012 10:47 AM PST up reply actions
I have never beat up or touched another teams fan before, or anyone at all period, ever in my life.
by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 10:50 AM PST up reply actions
as I said
Not accusing you of it. I’m just saying I’d rather have one perception as a fan opposed to another.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 13, 2012 10:52 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
+1, the only only change for me is instead of my ranking being
Dodgers
Lakers
Angels
Clippers
a decade ago it is now
Dodgers
Clippers
Angels
Lakers
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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 11:09 AM PST up reply actions
hell for most of the last 7 or so years i’ve rooted for the Chargers simply because they were the most local and I was too young to have been a Rams or Raiders fan.
I’m young. I know nothing. In high school I was a Vikings fan because I like Daunte, Moss and Carter.
Dead to Phil, Dave, probably H.Joe and BH
by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 11:13 AM PST up reply actions
perhaps he’s referring to that 10 year period where the Vikings and Steelers were in the same league before the merger
by Josie Becker on Jan 13, 2012 11:16 AM PST up reply actions
I lumped him in as a Rams fan in the 1970s. Brain fart.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 11:18 AM PST up reply actions
Fuck the Vikings
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by mleadman on Jan 13, 2012 11:16 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Fuck Joe Capp and Fran Tarkenton and small fucking quarterback hands.
And that Dallas Navy Staubach prima donna
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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 11:19 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I respected the Vikiings. But I fucking hate Joe Kapp because I was young enough for that Cal fuck to break my heart and make me cry when Richie Petibone only touched sky instead of his thigh
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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 11:24 AM PST up reply actions
Why?
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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 11:26 AM PST up reply actions
dunno, saw someone else make the comparison. Not a true passing QB, but got wins
by Josie Becker on Jan 13, 2012 11:26 AM PST up reply actions
Gutty QB’s were the story back then. Not a lot of true passers, maybe Sonny Jurgensen, John Brodie.
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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 11:30 AM PST up reply actions
I find the split between my age and yours and Josie’s fascinating. Growing up, all my classmates were Raiders fans. But you guys aren’t that much younger, and you’re Charger fans. It’s interesting.
by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 11:15 AM PST up reply actions
Raiders left when I was 9. Fuck those guys
by Josie Becker on Jan 13, 2012 11:16 AM PST up reply actions
I root for the Chargers
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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 11:20 AM PST up reply actions
Hate the Angels. Actively root against them and their post-2002 fans. But if they were a fan pre-2002, I congratulate them on finally being able to enjoy a winning franchise and are happy for them.
baseball is my love, my passion. Basketball is something I enjoy watching, and rooted for the local team, but until this year didn’t really have much of a rooting interest. I guess yeah, I’d classify myself as a casual fan who is trying to learn more about the sport.
I grew up in love with a neighbor boy who rooted for the Angels. I hold them no ill will
by Josie Becker on Jan 13, 2012 10:38 AM PST up reply actions
It’s one of the hazards of dating, sometimes you end up in bed with the enemy
by Josie Becker on Jan 13, 2012 10:40 AM PST up reply actions
if you do
make sure you, um, “arrive” first
nothing better than to leave them hanging
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 10:42 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah, JR Smith would work. Jason Terry is probably more what I was thinking, but if Mo can adjust to more of a pure 2 role, he’ll be fine. He’s only an inch shorter than Terry, who was a PG that shifted too.
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I don’t see it, not that it hasn’t been brought up occasionally on the Clipper boards. I like Billups as the SG and keeping him the starter keeps him from getting too pouty. Also, that doesn’t help with the depth at SF.
by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 10:32 AM PST up reply actions
Also Billups at 2 helps their ridiculously low turnover rate.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 10:34 AM PST up reply actions
Looked it up yesterday, but even with Billups missing some wide open looks (those will start going in) his TS% is basically what Gordon’s was last year. He’s so damn good at getting to the line and making his free throws that he has a ton of offensive value.
by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 10:37 AM PST up reply actions
Did you see the article ( I think it was SBN) about how the Clippers offense is one of the most efficient in the league simply because they take a shot almost every possession rather than turning the ball over? Interesting stuff.
Yes, right now the starting five is as good as I ever could have hoped for.
Mo WIlliams is solid as the 6th man
Evans is a great rebounder
Still want a 3 who is better then Gomes and a real 5 for when Jordan gets into foul trouble.
I’m not trading Bledsoe just because he’s my hedge on Paul not signing long term or blowing out the knee.
We seemed to have done an excellent job with our two second round picks.
I’m not sure I’d do much this year, this team has to much learning to do on how to play together to be a Championship contender, but I do think next year they will be serious contenders provided health.
Coaching could hold them back.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 11:14 AM PST up reply actions
This year and next year.
The great thing is, Blake can be offered the max next year. It’s tiered perfectly so Blake can extend while LAC is good, and Clippers can renegotiate with Paul knowing that Griffin is committed.
by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 11:17 AM PST up reply actions
The pick they traded had a 2.8% chance of being the number one overall pick.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 9:55 AM PST up reply actions
and wasn’t there a BS goaltending call/no-call (we need Hubie to explain!) that went against the Clippers at the end of regulation? IIRC they would have won in regulation were it not for a late call like that.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 9:42 AM PST up reply actions
Who wrote the Grapes of Wrath?
California Raisins answer was the highlight of a great Office last night.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
but yes, that whole bar scene was great : )
by Josie Becker on Jan 13, 2012 9:45 AM PST up reply actions
I
Have seen a few guys at both Staples and Dodger Stadium doing concessions sales in the stands.
Hollywood Joe loves both a good meal at Sotto and a $1 taco (which I had the other night) from a truck on Olympic and La Brea.
Last year, before watching UCLA beat Cal at the Rose Bowl, Joe and I stopped by his old neighborhood Italian deli in Chatsworth. That is still one part of the SFV that lives in the past in terms of development. I am sure it is a great place to grow up but it isn’t Brentwood.
by bhsportsguy on Jan 13, 2012 9:50 AM PST via mobile reply actions
Granada Hills
Italian Deli and Bakery
FTMFW
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 9:58 AM PST up reply actions
Have you been to San Carlo’s in Chatsworth? It’s been years for me, but it was excellent.
I need to go back there.
by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 10:00 AM PST up reply actions
Sure – know the family who used to (and maybe still) owns it
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 10:01 AM PST up reply actions
The reason I ask is because that means you think the deli in Granada Hills is better, correct?
by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 10:03 AM PST up reply actions
it was “our” deli
I think the fresh baked bread and the home made olive salad at Italia are hard to beat anywhere
I don’t really eat the prepared dishes – so don’t have an opinion on that
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 10:05 AM PST up reply actions
Do you happen to know the Errico family in the valley Joe?? They do Tile and Marble… love them.
by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 10:24 AM PST up reply actions
Don’t recall – what are first names?
That isn’t a southern Italian name – I’d guess it was from Tuscany or the Piedmont
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 10:26 AM PST up reply actions
Joe Errico is the dad, the one that came here from Napoli… there is 7 kids, maybe 4 of them were born in Italy, the other 3 were born here.
by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 10:28 AM PST up reply actions
What about Los Toros?? I love it, but what you guys think?
by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 10:22 AM PST up reply actions
Big meat market on Friday and Saturday nights.
The food there is good enough, nothing outstanding, but I’m certainly not embarrassed to go there.
Try Les Sisters across the street for Cajun/Creole/Comfort food. Buttermilk pie FTW!
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by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 12:28 PM PST up reply actions
How did you like the taco? What did you have in it?
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 10:22 AM PST up reply actions
This comment was filtered. Did it contain one of the keywords “Clippers”, “Taco” or “Star Wars” in it?
oh by the way there is a chrome extension
that can block certain users. I haven’t tried it, but its real.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
If you’d like, I can bring back Watch Thoughts.
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by Humma Kavula on Jan 13, 2012 10:27 AM PST up reply actions
This is the one I think I want
Oris Big Crown Pointer Date. If I can find it (a) in 36mm, which they don’t make anymore, and (b) for about $500, which is what some watch seller was selling it for three months ago.

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by Humma Kavula on Jan 13, 2012 10:30 AM PST up reply actions
me too
anything better than The Tebow hour
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 10:32 AM PST up reply actions
y’know what I like? Away We Go. Under appreciated movie
by Josie Becker on Jan 13, 2012 10:36 AM PST up reply actions
It was good
Although I was rooting for them to stick around with his bro.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
there were benefits to each posible life, but ultimately the best one was the one they came up with on their own #lifelesson
by Josie Becker on Jan 13, 2012 10:41 AM PST up reply actions
oh for sure, but his brother probably figured it out and became even closer to his daughter as a result, and I’m sure there were tons of visits between the families
by Josie Becker on Jan 13, 2012 10:43 AM PST up reply actions
al pastor (2) and
carne asada (1).
I would seriously consider catering a party with a 100 al pastor tacos and 100 carne asada
by bhsportsguy on Jan 13, 2012 10:31 AM PST up reply actions
My Friday lunch decision has been made.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 10:32 AM PST up reply actions
There have been several mentions of street-type tacos today. That’s what I will have.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 10:35 AM PST up reply actions
just make sure you don’t eat it like a gringo
by Josie Becker on Jan 13, 2012 10:35 AM PST up reply actions
like you’re eating a hard shelled taco. The “correct” way is to roll it, is what this book told me
by Josie Becker on Jan 13, 2012 10:39 AM PST up reply actions
what am I supposed to do with the silver wear and napkin I brought along?
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 10:41 AM PST up reply actions
I’m going to gringo the shit out of my tacos.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 10:43 AM PST up reply actions
are you sure it was a book?
Are you sure it wasn’t nothing?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 13, 2012 10:48 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Nice, but it was in this graphic novel which I highly recommend
by Josie Becker on Jan 13, 2012 10:51 AM PST up reply actions
I don't know anyone
form either side of the border that rolls a taco. That’s a flauta
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
flatulence on the other hand
fun only when you have it
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 11:01 AM PST up reply actions
Ciro's
in East LA is famous for their flautas. It’s definitely the hood.
705 N Evergreen Ave
Los Angeles, CA 90033
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
One of my friends from Napoli’s name is Ciro, and they pronounce it like Cheetoh, weird.
by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 11:46 AM PST up reply actions
I think
good al pastor beats good carne asada 100 out of 100 times. And I love good carne asada.
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
this has nothing to do with hip
Pig > Cow
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 11:01 AM PST up reply actions
Threadless T's, you probably know them from their ads with
hot girls wearing their T’s and glasses, held a contest to design a tshit based on existing college mascots. Here’s what they came up with for SC:

and here’s what they came up for UCLA

and the best for last, what they came up with for Cal:

is that a thrusting blade peeking out of that cloak or are you just happy to see me?
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 10:02 AM PST up reply actions
http://atrium.threadless.com/all/?page=1&collection=college
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
So the UCLA winner came up with the idea to put the UCLA logo on a shirt?
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by regfairfield on Jan 13, 2012 9:57 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
there were multiple designs, they were voted on. The logo is made up with words from the fight song, but yes it’s lame
by Josie Becker on Jan 13, 2012 9:59 AM PST up reply actions
Historically
Thinking, I don’t believe the warriors from Troy were that skin color
by bhsportsguy on Jan 13, 2012 10:00 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
well the only lighting they had were candles, made for a lot of shadows : )
by Josie Becker on Jan 13, 2012 10:01 AM PST up reply actions
Most likely to be able to kick the other two guys asses: CAL guy
Most likely to be a drug addict: CAL guy
Most likely not to be a real student: CAL guy
Most likely to be a soccer player: USC guy
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Not sure what I can come up with for the UCLA guy.
most likely to be an accountant for accountants? or to sell insurance to insurance companies?
by Josie Becker on Jan 13, 2012 10:17 AM PST up reply actions
Most likely to check out Sweet Sweet Yack at Coachella.
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by regfairfield on Jan 13, 2012 10:17 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I like Sweet Sweet Yack’s early stuff, but they haven’t been good since they sold out.
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by Humma Kavula on Jan 13, 2012 10:19 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
hipster
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
My fat cousin likes Sweet Sweet Yack.
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by Humma Kavula on Jan 13, 2012 10:20 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
the UCLA guy clearly sleeps with the other guys girlfriends, if those other guys actually had girlfriends
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 10:17 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Nah. That beard needs a trim. Most likely to be a script girl’s script girl.
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by Humma Kavula on Jan 13, 2012 10:18 AM PST up reply actions
god I love that term
What ever happened to AMERICA
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 10:18 AM PST up reply actions
Gentlemen, where is the cream?
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by Humma Kavula on Jan 13, 2012 10:19 AM PST up reply actions
what do they call script girl’s now anyway? I can’t remember the name.
by Josie Becker on Jan 13, 2012 10:22 AM PST up reply actions
Script Supervisor
no romance in that title
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 10:24 AM PST up reply actions
no romance in Flight Attendant either, but here we are
by Josie Becker on Jan 13, 2012 10:25 AM PST up reply actions
sweetcheeks
Just invokes anger now……
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 13, 2012 10:29 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
true
calling someone sweetheart isn’t offensive, calling someone you barely know, sweetheart, is
by Josie Becker on Jan 13, 2012 10:33 AM PST up reply actions
depends on your smile and her smile
come on, we all hate this shit a little bit, even if we all agree the world is better for it
men still want women, and women still want to be wanted – nothing wrong with a little of that every now and then
sterile post-sexual world is awfully boring
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 10:35 AM PST up reply actions
boring, but necessary to create a social sphere that isn’t one big orgy #hyperbole
by Josie Becker on Jan 13, 2012 10:37 AM PST up reply actions
not that there’s anything wrong with that
by G.Scott on Jan 13, 2012 10:38 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Vin Scully
And Barbara Walters are still working hard at age 82.
by bhsportsguy on Jan 13, 2012 9:58 AM PST via mobile reply actions
Kyle Kendrick just got almost 4 million in his first year of arbitration, so based on that Kershaw will get 35 million.
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The guy with THESE FREAKING STATS just got 4 million?
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=6230&position=P
For the love of…he has a 4.41 career ERA.
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$1M in 2012 / $34 in 2013.
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by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 12:37 PM PST up reply actions
bleep bloop i know a guy bleep bloop
by G.Scott on Jan 13, 2012 10:28 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
She puts a lot of pressure on you?
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by regfairfield on Jan 13, 2012 10:47 AM PST up reply actions
an air mattress used to be known as a pneumatic mattress, and you sort of go from there
by Josie Becker on Jan 13, 2012 10:54 AM PST up reply actions
Another term that was used for that
pulchritudinous
by bhsportsguy on Jan 13, 2012 10:53 AM PST up reply actions
No shit, I lost the 7th grade spelling bee on pulchritude.
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by Humma Kavula on Jan 13, 2012 10:54 AM PST up reply actions
That means “beautiful,” not “stacked.”
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
True
but it sounds like it means stacked
by bhsportsguy on Jan 13, 2012 11:09 AM PST up reply actions
I like to use “buxom.”
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Or “zaftig” in appropriate situations.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
I once had to pick up a woman at the airport that I had never met before and she described herself to me as “middle-aged zaftig”. To be on the safe side, I put her name on a sign.
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by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 12:40 PM PST up reply actions
Christina Hendricks says, “Apples, huh?”
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by Humma Kavula on Jan 13, 2012 11:13 AM PST up reply actions
That they no longer want you to talk to them.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 10:50 AM PST up reply actions
ugh. I hate when I try and press the up button
and it clicks a profile instead!
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too many AMFs*.
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*too many = one
by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 10:53 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Kuroda's price has dropped
According to MLBTR, sorry for not linking Kuroda’s price has dropped to one year for 10-11m per year. Wonder if the Dodgers should not give it a try? Rotation improves quite a bit. Obviously there would have to be a lot of face saving exercises done.
ESPN.com
basically said the Yankees and Red Sox don’t want to pay 12-13M.
by bhsportsguy on Jan 13, 2012 11:03 AM PST up reply actions
Only way that happens if there's a 6 man rotation, which could be kinda beastly
I’d love something like:
1. Kershaw
2. Bills
3. Kuroda
4. Lilly
5 First Time Through Rotation. Capuano
5 Second Time Through Rotation. Harang
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Boss: “Gary, I’m going to need you to create a procedure for how we complete this form”
In my head: “Oh, you mean that procedure I told you we needed to do 18 months ago. Yeah, i did it then knowing you’d need it at some point. I’m just going to change the dates on it and hand it back to you for a third time”
Me: “No problem, when do you need it by.”
Boss: “COB is fine.”
Me: “Ok, no problem”. /TBLA
mowing lawns and collecting the cash off the bookshelf is a job! #notreally
by Josie Becker on Jan 13, 2012 11:17 AM PST up reply actions
I went to an entirely different place with “cash on bookshelf.”
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by Humma Kavula on Jan 13, 2012 11:18 AM PST up reply actions
That's my payment method
for my cleaning lady
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
close of business
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Yep
COB is part of the 9 to 5 experience
by bhsportsguy on Jan 13, 2012 11:18 AM PST up reply actions
you know what's not part of the 9 to 5 experience?
Working 9 – 5
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
What a way to make a living.
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by Humma Kavula on Jan 13, 2012 11:21 AM PST up reply actions
East Coast is 9 – 5
Our Stock Market opens at 06:30, making a West Coast Broker job a morning bitch, but a good gig in NY.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 11:22 AM PST up reply actions
Though I shouldn't complain
I’m basically 9 – 5:30, sometimes going to 6:30
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Doubtful
Bradford’s contract would be too much of salary cap hit and he is coming off a serious ankle sprain.
by bhsportsguy on Jan 13, 2012 11:20 AM PST up reply actions
I hope they don't hire Dennis Allen or I'm gonna be pissed.
I’ve been tweeting the Rams about what a terrible hire that would be. ;)
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Oh wait, I read that wrong. I thought it was the DOLPHINS.
Hooray! Go rams!
Whew.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
damn it, now I know something about Bieber
by Josie Becker on Jan 13, 2012 11:15 AM PST up reply actions
Are they Bieblena? Selieber?
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Selena Gomez says, “Bleep blorp, no shit.”
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by Humma Kavula on Jan 13, 2012 11:17 AM PST up reply actions
Selena Gomez has that goofy Amanda Bynes vibe.
Not much sex appeal there but they could be really good comic actresses.
Selena is way hotter then Amanada Bynes.
by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 11:19 AM PST up reply actions
Side note
Amanda Bynes became really hot, though I still agree
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Doesn’t she have crazy Ana Faris plastic surgery face/mouth now though?
by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 11:34 AM PST up reply actions
She looked weird in Easy A
maybe it was just for the role though
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
wayans brothers should get some money
for every movie Anna Faris does.
They discovered her, and she’s one of the best at what she does.
way too skinny
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
I saw a tweet to this effect yesterday, that while Zooey Deschanel may be “adorkable” but that isn’t sexy. Emmy Rossum is similar to Zooey, but adult enough to be “aporkable”
by Josie Becker on Jan 13, 2012 11:20 AM PST up reply actions
I find Zooey attractive
as you all know. I don’t spend time trying to figure out why.
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cant tell the difference between these women in their roles:
Zooey, Kat Dennings,Krysten Ritter, Aubrey Plaza
All brown-haired girls look alike.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Do any of them have fat cousins?
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by Humma Kavula on Jan 13, 2012 11:30 AM PST up reply actions
Kat is becoming a fat cousin
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 11:31 AM PST up reply actions
Best kind of cousin.
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by Humma Kavula on Jan 13, 2012 11:31 AM PST up reply actions
To quote Buddy Hackett — and I swear this is a Buddy Hackett quote — “I knew it. I can tell Jewish tits anywhere.”
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by Humma Kavula on Jan 13, 2012 11:36 AM PST up reply actions
Haven't seen her on her show
But she was definitely good looking in Nick and Norah’s Infinite Playlist
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Never hot though, just quirky
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 11:54 AM PST up reply actions
Watch any of her brothers movie’s and she will show up somewhere.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 11:56 AM PST up reply actions
Cusack is REALLY quirky in Shameless.
by jim hitchcock (railway) on Jan 13, 2012 12:18 PM PST up reply actions
Kat has a bit more then the rest combined
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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 11:30 AM PST up reply actions
My guess is that
if you met any of them in person, they would be a lot more thinner than you think from TV
by bhsportsguy on Jan 13, 2012 11:32 AM PST up reply actions
Yes, which is why I think Kat is the only one who is of a size that would be healthy.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 11:34 AM PST up reply actions
Yup, they’re all ok. If they weren’t famous and I saw any of them walking down the street I wouldn’t look twice. Well maybe Kat I would look a couple more times. She’s got a little something more.
Zooey is not hot, just weirdly cute
Though Katy Perry is seriously hot. Gotta be the body just kicking it into hot gear.
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Ten years ago I made a really good Amanda Bynes joke.
At the start of the Iraq war, Amanda Bynes was in a movie and the key art had her flashing a peace sign. The studio changed it to have her hands in her pockets. Story here:
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,625918,00.html
Joke:
What’s the difference between Alanis Morisette and Amanda Bynes?
Alanis has one hand in her pocket and the other one making a peace sign. Amanda Bynes has both hands in her pockets.
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by Humma Kavula on Jan 13, 2012 11:21 AM PST up reply actions
Well I thought it was a good joke.
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by Humma Kavula on Jan 13, 2012 11:26 AM PST up reply actions
the best part about this joke being explained
is that it was from 10 years ago
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At least your kids
are not old enough to watch those shows.
by bhsportsguy on Jan 13, 2012 11:18 AM PST up reply actions
My kid does… got me hooked haha… Love Victorious and iCarly.
by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 11:20 AM PST up reply actions
I would say that I don’t know who Selena Gomez is, but I don’t want to invite a slew of pics.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 11:20 AM PST up reply actions
turn left eric nooooooo
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by regfairfield on Jan 13, 2012 11:22 AM PST up reply actions
This just means your nieces and nephews are beyond the tween years
for the last 4 years. If you were around tweens and watched TV with them, you know Selena Gomez
by bhsportsguy on Jan 13, 2012 11:23 AM PST up reply actions
It gets old real fast. Sometimes, like ivdown and his drink choices, we should strive to behave like adults. :)
by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 11:25 AM PST up reply actions
If we we adults we’d be talking about politics, not sports.
by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 11:28 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
She is no Vanessa Hudgens though, who had those Vanessa Hudgens pics?
by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 11:25 AM PST up reply actions
If you post those pictures I’m banning you.
Fair warning
by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 11:26 AM PST up reply actions
what pictues? You being serious or you dont like Vanessa Hudgens? I have never posted any picture.
by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 11:28 AM PST up reply actions
The pictures you’re referring to in the comment. Yes, I’m being serious.
by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 11:28 AM PST up reply actions
Are you talking about the naked pics?? No mike, come on man… I was not talking about those, im talking about the ones someone posted on here of her a few months ago… regular pictures of her.
by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 11:30 AM PST up reply actions
Amazing Grace and Chuck Hayes.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
by Nolij on Jan 13, 2012 11:29 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Sac Kings
won’t miss a “beat” with Alex English, but they aren’t likely going to stop the world and melt with you. #80sNBA&Music
I was too busy
looking in my mirror in the bathroom
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Couldn’t hurt while the boys percolate
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 11:32 AM PST up reply actions
But Bartolowns.
The only guy I even recognize as a starter on their 40 man is Barry Enright so why not.
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by regfairfield on Jan 13, 2012 11:33 AM PST up reply actions
Right, meant outside the obvious Kennedy/Hudson/Cahill/Collementer.
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by regfairfield on Jan 13, 2012 11:36 AM PST up reply actions
Wonder if last year was a fluke or not. Put up good peripherals with the Yankees in the AL East last season. Of course, before that his last productive season was 2005.
7.39 K/9
2.13 BB/9
1.22 GB/FB
164 IP
are actually pretty good numbers. But like I said… was it a fluke.
I also think the DBacks are over-rated – clap clap – clap clap clap.
Wasn’t he the new surgery poster boy for 2011?
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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 11:38 AM PST up reply actions
Can you be jealous of a team that you are a fan of?
I guess I’m jealous of Houston fans who grew up in Houston. Their big name DC is a Houston boy whos father was a big deal in his day, their head coach is a houston boy. Their owner has lived in houston since the 60s. I want something like that for the Dodgers.
Kubiak talking about visiting his fathers grave this week got me thinking is all. Kind of touching.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
I’d like ex-Dodgers working for the Dodgers but I’ve been told that I’m full of hooey and having ex Yankee’s run our franchise is a better option since someone who had never managed one bloody iota was a better choice then someone with a Dodger background.
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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 11:36 AM PST up reply actions
I don’t remember him being a popuplar managerial choice on this board at all. I hated the way he was just handed the job and there were a ton of guys who wanted Wallach.
by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 11:39 AM PST up reply actions
I agree, I didnt want Donnie at all… I wanted Wallach. Still do, sort of.
by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 11:43 AM PST up reply actions
I just want people who know what they are doing, and win…. Raiders do alot of that crap, bringing in Ex Raiders, hasnt worked for shit.
by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 11:39 AM PST up reply actions
weird thing to be jealous of IMO…. It really doesnt matter to be if new Dodger people have LA ties or not.
by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 11:37 AM PST up reply actions
Disagree. One reason I loved EK. Darryl Strawberry and Eric Davis coming home was very very exciting.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Damn that was going to be so awesome. Straw and Davis even came to speak at my high school in Palm Springs at some point in 1992 or so.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 11:40 AM PST up reply actions
I really thought Davis
was the tipping point for the team. Little did I know, it was, but the wrong direction
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
I had a Strawberry, Butler, and Davis Tshirt, think it said Outfield of Dreams or something, Didnt work out that way.
by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 11:47 AM PST up reply actions
I went batshit crazy when we signed Strawberry in November 1990. Such awesome news.
by silverwidow on Jan 13, 2012 11:45 AM PST up reply actions
Strawberry and Shaq were the two L.A. signings that a lot of people assumed would happen maybe a year or two beforehand, but were still a great joy and pleasant surprise once they came to fruition.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 11:48 AM PST up reply actions
I was more excited by the Kobe draft pick:)
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 11:50 AM PST up reply actions
ironically I hated the move to trade Divac for Kobe… I still wanted Divac as a backup, and had no interest in some HS kid..
by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 11:53 AM PST up reply actions
Shaq signing was one of the greatest days of my life… the day before Fred Roggon was on NBC saying Lakers were not signing Shaq, or Shaq wasnt coming to LA…. next day I wake up, Shaq is with Jerry West at a press conference… something like that. I still have the exact same Laker hat Shaq wore at that press conference.
by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 11:51 AM PST up reply actions
Shaq gave you his hat?
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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 11:52 AM PST up reply actions
No, I went out the next day or 2, and bought the same hat he wore at that press conference… Just like I do when they win the title, I got get the championship lockerroom Tshirt and hat…. I only wear what the pros wear baby haha.
by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 11:54 AM PST up reply actions
Davis and Daniels, loved the acquisitions. Kal Daniels had the sweetest swing in baseball and Davis was literally the most exciting player I’d ever seen.
When they went bad, I took it hard. Drinking, gambling, whoring, tiddly winking. The whole shebang.
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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 11:49 AM PST up reply actions
Those were current players…. im talking about Dodgers owner, manager, GM, whatever, dont need them to be from LA….. as far as a player, would be sweet to have a superstar that is LA born, raised, and bred.
by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 11:40 AM PST up reply actions
Noland said he is jealous because the Texans DC is from Houston, but not something that I would be jealous of…. but thats cool.
by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 11:42 AM PST up reply actions
I'm jealous that the team has such deep ties to the community
not just the DC.
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I'm eating some turkey stew
I made from the carcasses of two turkeys I roasted over the holidays. I’m thinking now, it’s thick enough that it would make a great burrito.
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Of course you would have season it like crazy
so it doesn’t taste like turkey.
by bhsportsguy on Jan 13, 2012 11:54 AM PST up reply actions
What I’m having would go well with a spicy verde salsa
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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Ahh
a little more smoky pork like flavor
by bhsportsguy on Jan 13, 2012 11:58 AM PST up reply actions
the best breakfast burrito in the city
is always the one in my belly
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 12:04 PM PST up reply actions
The #1 at La Azteca
sounds divine. I’m going this weekend if at all possible
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Late at night after all the traffic has died down and the local restaurants have closed shop, an otherwise desolate stretch of Lincoln Boulevard is home to La Oaxaqueña — a taco truck that has been on the corner of Lincoln and Rose for ten years now.
There are two Mexican restaurants on that very corner, and they’ve been there for a lot of years: Casablanca and La Cabana. The latter is open very late, until 2 or 3 A.M.
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by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 12:58 PM PST up reply actions
Casablanca
was one of the worst Mexican meals I’ve ever had. About 25 years ago
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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
I was there a couple years ago and it was acceptable.
Place has been there since the 70s, at least.
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When Mike Stanton comes home, I’ll be excited to watch him go for his 400th home run before the age of 30
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I’m getting excited about Harold Miner getting his jersey retired by USC on Sunday. The hoops history, she is not so much.
Baby Jordan. I saw him drain a game-winning three against UCLA one year. One of the best USC b-ball players I’ve ever seen.
yeah I think he basically single handedly got USC into the NCAA tournament… my 1st as an SC fan, though they lost 1st game I believe.
by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 12:01 PM PST up reply actions
second game
To James Fucking Forrest.
USC was a 2 seed that year. Unheard of.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 12:03 PM PST up reply actions
To this day, I don’t write in any team in my NCAA tourney bracket until the game is officially over. Because of that game.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 12:08 PM PST up reply actions
I think my official favorite “cool sports moment” is from around the same time, when Bo Kimble shot a free throw left-handed to honor Hank Gathers. Just unreal in its poignancy (sports division).
Bo Kimble is why I bought my first Clipper Season Ticket package.
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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 12:14 PM PST up reply actions
First FT of every game he shot left-handed. So awesome.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 12:16 PM PST up reply actions
When the Galen Center was built
there was a fear by UCLA fans that USC would use that facility to their advantage when it came to recruiting. But I tend to believe that the OJ Mayo exercise and the subsequent throwing the basketball team under the bus to hopefully reduce sanctions proves that the only thing basketball does is exist for a place to bring football recruits in January.
by bhsportsguy on Jan 13, 2012 12:01 PM PST up reply actions
USC basketball seemed to be on the rise, then Floyd left, and why is Kevin Oneal still coach? who the hell wants to play for him?? Now they are sorry as shit… Baseball team too has sucked balls…. I love SC football 1st and foremost too, but I wouldnt mind being a little better in these other 2 sports.
by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 12:05 PM PST up reply actions
To be honest, i think he’s still employed because of a chance at Shabazz
by Julio Nievas on Jan 13, 2012 12:08 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Screw him, he got me excited about USC basketball and then sucked in the tournament. and then sucked in the NBA. Fuck him
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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 12:06 PM PST up reply actions
One of my all time favorite college scorers. I hate it when they don’t live up to my lofty expectations.
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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 12:15 PM PST up reply actions
Here’s a dunk against UCLA that USC tweeted out today. Worth it if only for Tracy Murray’s fade cut.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 12:07 PM PST up reply actions
Premier 11
Looks like baseline, second level up
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 12:30 PM PST up reply actions
I believe I sat in the Premier section
once. They do have waiter staff.
by bhsportsguy on Jan 13, 2012 12:49 PM PST up reply actions
I've only been there a few times
But I don’t think there are any bad seats at Staples
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 13, 2012 12:29 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
I was looking at the Golden State Warrior Media Guide last night
And just one note about how dominate Wilt Chamberlain was in his era.
Just for the Warriors (Philadelphia and San Francisco), Wilt scored 50 or more points in a game 100 times. Of course in the greatest scoring year (individually) in NBA history, 1961-1962, Wilt led the league with a 50 points per game scoring average and 25 rebounds per game.
Elgin Baylor had the second highest average that year at over 38 points a game and 18.6 rebounds (he only played 48 games that year due to his National Guard service requirements). Back then, the NBA used totals as their official record of stats leaders so you won’t see Elgin’s name in the official records. That was the same year Oscar Robertson (30 points, 12 rebounds and 11 assists) averaged a triple double and Jerry West also averaged over 30 points a game.
I read something once on Baylor’s national guard stint. Just a crazy schedule. He would play his ass off in the NBA, then have to report for the weekend for national guard duty. Every single week.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 12:39 PM PST up reply actions
He was an Army reservist
he had to use a weekend pass to play for the Lakers that year. Played in 48 games and scored over 1800 points.
by bhsportsguy on Jan 13, 2012 12:43 PM PST up reply actions
I couldn’t remember if the weekends were for service or for basketball. Either way, amazing.
Puts Kobe’s back-and-forth in-season flights to Eagle, Colorado to shame. :)
by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 12:45 PM PST up reply actions
Did he do any service the day of a game though??
by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 12:56 PM PST up reply actions
Wilt Chamberlain holds the record most consecutive games with 50 or more points
7 games
40 or more points, 14 games (twice).
30 or more points, 65 straight games
20 or more points, 126 straight games
I want to say Kareem’s record for 10-point games was 787, or possibly 788. But going off memory from old Lakers’ championship videos.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 12:40 PM PST up reply actions
It was 787
Ended with a 7-point effort against Milwaukee. Gordon Edes had the LA Times story.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 12:44 PM PST up reply actions
Eric's memory for Laker trivia
is quite remarkable
by bhsportsguy on Jan 13, 2012 12:50 PM PST up reply actions
He was always a slacker
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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
The hell I was! LISTEN KID! I’ve been hearing that crap ever since I was at UCLA. I’m out there busting my buns every night. Tell your old man to drag Walton and Lanier up and down the court for 48 minutes.
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Wow
you were right on at 787. But Jordan broke that record and holds it at 866 games
by bhsportsguy on Jan 13, 2012 12:48 PM PST up reply actions
Bob Nightengale tweets
Breaking: The Texas #Rangers are meeting today with Prince Fielder at Dallas-area hotel. Stay tuned #mlb
That would be such a ridiculous offense
Kinsler
Young
Hamilton
Fielder
Beltre
Napoli
Cruz
Andrus
Gentry/Borbon
too bad the teams in the al (and the phillies) seem to be the only teams intent on going balls out.. would be nice to see more powerhouses in the nl
(then again, nl has won the world series the last two years in a row..)
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jan 13, 2012 1:06 PM PST up reply actions
Only two of the top 10 teams in free agent spending this year are in the NL.
Granted Texas is gonna leap up that chart real fast once they wrap up Darvish.
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by regfairfield on Jan 13, 2012 1:09 PM PST up reply actions
And holy crap I got that backwards I meant the AL.
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by regfairfield on Jan 13, 2012 1:16 PM PST up reply actions
haha we spent 42 million on crap
to put us at number 4
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Jersey Mike's
Went there for lunch. So what, right? Well, unbeknownst to me, they now charge tax if you want to eat in the restaurant. Fuck that! I told him I’ll take it to go and ate it at Starbucks.
Coffee bean has been doing that for years.
by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 1:07 PM PST up reply actions
The law is “cold food to go” doesn’t have tax.
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by regfairfield on Jan 13, 2012 1:08 PM PST up reply actions
Right. It’s not like Jersey Mike’s wants to charge the tax. They have to.
by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 1:09 PM PST up reply actions
They didn’t change, they probably just got busted or had a clerk that cared for whatever reason.
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by regfairfield on Jan 13, 2012 1:11 PM PST up reply actions
Right. This is why at the coffee places and sandwich shops, they are always supposed to ask you “for here or to go” and tax you or not accordingly.
I do know people that always say “to go” then sometimes sit down and eat it there anyway.
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Can’t imagine you buy food/drink from a restaraunt which allows people to eat inside… but then you are not allowed to eat inside. I’d just say I changed my mind and wanted to eat inside.
Then you have to pay California the sales tax.
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In Europe
this is common (as talked about before). They charge more for inside dining plus they automatically add a service charge.
You never noticed the sales tax line on your bill?
by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 1:26 PM PST up reply actions
You’ve never noticed that you pay sales tax at restaurants?
And it is the same tax, to go or in house. Except for cold food.
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I think they do… and CRV, and they charge you tax on the CRV too, fuckin California… and were still fuckin broke…. Cant believe I gotta pay money to recycle stuff.
You know the R stands for Redemption, right? You can get your money back. If you are throwing your CRV cans/bottles into the blue trash can, you are just paying a tax you imposed on yourself. (or a convenience fee for not doing the recycling yourself).
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The state of CA says
here (warning: link is to a pdf file)
The charge for California Redemption Value (CRV) is not a deposit, but a fee imposed on the distributor of the beverage. The fee is passed along to the retailer and to you as the consumer. Although separately stated, the fee is subject to tax as part of the taxable selling price of the beverage.I think it is BS too. I’m being taxed on a fee that I have to pay. Fuck that.
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Yes. The grocery store does too. It’s not a tax-exempt food.
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So if I go to Subway (god forbid) and order a sandwhich they will ask me if it is for “here” or “to go” and if I answer “to go”, I don’t pay sales tax on it? But if I answer “for here”, I do?
Just want to make sure I am understanding this law/rule correctly.
If they actually bother enforcing it yes.
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by regfairfield on Jan 13, 2012 1:31 PM PST up reply actions
and if the sandwich is cold. I think they have to charge you tax on a hot meatball sandwich, for example, no matter what.
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What if I ask for my Sub to be toasted?? Now all of a sudden I gotta pay tax because they turned my sandwich from cold to hot for 5 seconds?
why? wow I dont get it at all… I mean, I get what you guys are saying but dam…. fuck it, I want my big mac cold…. next taco tuesday, I was 12 cold tacos please…
If I had to bet as to how this all happened, it’s like Dave said. Grocery stores don’t charge tax on essentialls because that seems counter-intuitive (milk, eggs, bread, etc.) Restaurants were always taxed. At some point there became a grey area where places like Starbucks functioned somewhat like a grocery store selling water and other items, so they argued customers shouldn’t have to be taxed for shopping at their stores. The hot/cold fast food thing is probably a product of that, a compromise.
by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 1:44 PM PST up reply actions
The gray area started with delis, long before there were any Starbucks.
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Thee's nothing worse
than something grey at a deli
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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Other than the hair of the waitresses. Unless of course it is in your Reuben.
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So it really isn’t the food (cold, hot) you are getting taxed on, it is the decision as to where you eat it? Cold food becomes hot food if you eat it there? Nutso. This system needs to be gamed.
Yes, please address the cold part of my question then.
I but a cold sandwich. It is by legal definitions, a cold sandwich. Cashier asks me if I want to eat in or out. If I say “in” then sandwich becomes “hot” and is taxed. If I say “out” then sandwich remains cold and is not taxed. So does the location of where I eat my cold sandwich determine if it is “cold” or “hot” and taxed? If so, I am going to try to game this. Someone tells me to eat it outside, they can call the cops.
Is gaming this really worth your time? Just pay them and enjoy your meal in peace.
by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 1:46 PM PST up reply actions
Deciding at what point the retailer did a sufficient amount of work to require tax is arbitrary, so they came up with the standard of applying heat. It may be a dumb standard, but it at least applies uniformity to the definition of “preparation.”
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Congrats on saving 55 cents?
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by regfairfield on Jan 13, 2012 1:47 PM PST up reply actions
it all adds up. $1.65 a week compounded over a 50 year period could cost you Section 11 seats at a Lakers/Clippers game.
This reminds me
of Seinfeld’s dad, fuming about $50 Uncle Leo didn’t pay his sister 40 years before.
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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
It becomes “served to you” and is then taxable.
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Just like your salad at the restaurant.
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I guess when you turn the restaurant into a grocer, you stop paying tax.
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All you can eat
more like all you can tax, amirite?
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Well, I ate the sandwich outside and even bought a Frappuccino when I was done. So not totally cheating the system.
Do fastfood places charger more if you eat there, or get it to go?? Someone trying to tell me they charge more if you order to go… I dont believe it. If anything they would charge more to eat there I would think.
What the hell are you talking about?
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Im saying I dont get how a fastfood place charges extra when you take food to go, rather then eat it there.
My receipt on drive-thru orders says “take out tax.”. I rarely eat in over there so haven’t noticed a difference.
No wonder people actually eat at these places… I always though why are people eating here, thats why we got drivethrus
Wrong. They eat there so their kids can run wild in the playground thing.
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Also, I hate drive thru lanes unless they are empty or about one deep or the lines inside are obviously way longer. I always park, walk in and get my food to go.
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My car is for driving, not waiting in.
That would be more impressive if my car was snazzy instead of a commuter car.
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if there is a Dodgers, Angels, Lakers game on the radio… I can make it through about four cars, but otherwise with you.
If the Dodgers are playing, it is my wife’s job to pick up the to-go food.
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It’s the normal sales tax for hot prepared food. It you get a salad in there or a yogurt, it might not be taxed. They probably have both a “take out tax” and a “here tax” button on the register, with each taxing items as appropriate.
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As reg says above, you’re paying the tax for all “hot” food anyway (like McDonalds.) A sandwich place can avoid charging the tax if you take it away.
by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 1:15 PM PST up reply actions
Hot food requires preparation (i.e. cooking). Cold food could be just a soda from the fridge.
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Cold food is the same as there being no sales tax on the food you buy at the grocery store.
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And found out that you have been avoiding tax all along by getting it to go.
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Then they were not following the CA tax code and the state probably “called them out on it”.
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Property Tax mortgage deduction rules
are finally going to be enforced too. Us homeowners have routinely been deducting all of the property tax we pay, but we are not supposed to. CA is implementing changes that will tell you how much you can deduct. I think we’ll lose about 10% of what we currently deduct.
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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
The way I look at it
I got away with ignoring it for 20 years. I’m glad they aren’t coming for back taxes
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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
HAHAHA, sometimes it is being old FTMFW!
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Yeah
Just our state return though, we’re still good with the Fed.
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correct
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Nonetheless, screw the state! Let’s stick it TO THE MAN! POWER TO THE PEOPLE!
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I'm so scared I'm going to owe thousands again
I keep getting screwed by my wifes company
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I'd make a stand
You could get like 10 or more bazooka joe’s for that extra money!
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Kevin Goldstein retweets
Uh-oh. RT @BruceMiles2112: #Cubs change cover of pocket schedules. Castro was on original skeds
Uh oh? Maybe people who carry schedules in their pockets aren’t keen on (alleged) sexual abusers.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
To those who might know about such things, assume somebody like Castro is not famous and is not employed by a powerful company that pays him a lot of money, would the alleged abuse be enough for Department of Immigration to reject a visa to enter the States? They certainly don’t have to abide by “innocent until proven guilty” as they will routinely reject applications for alleged drug traffickers. If so, Castro might not even get back into the country. Belisario sure didn’t.
Anybody know?
by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 1:12 PM PST up reply actions
I thought that Castro was in the US already. Maybe they’d revoke his visa or something, but I believe the alleged abuse was in Chicago.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Yes, the incident was in Chicago, but I believe he was out of the country during the off-season.
by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 1:16 PM PST up reply actions
No, he went back to the Dominican the night after the incident.
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by regfairfield on Jan 13, 2012 1:16 PM PST up reply actions
A guess to some extent
Castro is entering under a work visa for a specialized type of work (one not readily accessible by an existing citizen). As far as legal entanglements go, I don’t know, but my hunch the Cubs and Castro’s rep will have kept Dept of Homeland Security in the loop to make sure they are no problems.
I thought the tweet meant Castro could be dealt.
Just had a pastrami pizza at Uncle Ernie’s. Blind order, it was friggin great, pickels on a pizza. RULES
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Sandwich/Pizza place on Lassen / Topanga. Highly recommend.
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Ah, I’ve seen it but never gone in. I have bought doughnuts in that strip mall before.
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That might as well be Mars for me
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If Rangers sign both Yu and Prince the AL West top two teams are going to kick the Beasts from the Easts Asses from one coast to another.
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They have to decide by some point in March but I forgot the date.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 1:45 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Historically
this has not been the case. Most races, even Wild Card ones are well decided before the last two weeks. 2011 was remarkable that it came down to the last day, of course if Boston and Tampa Bay were already wild cards, than they probably would have played the last few games differently. Same thing for Atlanta and St. Louis.
Oh god.
I have an indoor soccer game on Sunday night… then an indoor soccer game on Saturday night. I haven’t played soccer or really done much of any exercise since November.
In retrospect, that seems like a bad decision.
Video
Futsal has a heavier ball that really doesn’t bounce and there is out of bounds lines. Indoor soccer is played in something like a hockey rink. Out of bounds is over the walls or (in smaller places) if it hits the ceiling.
And no, you can’t check people into the boards.
You’re fatigued just thinking about it.
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NPUT
Sales Tax Free
http://www.truebluela.com/2012/1/13/2705622/tbla-2011-community-review-clayton-kershaw
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Speaking of grocery stores and Clayton Kershaw
Apparently he is signing copies of his new book Sunday at the Ralph’s in Porter Ranch (on Rinaldi).
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Top Dodgers’ Prospects
1. Zach Lee RHP
2. Nathan Eovaldi RHP
3. Allen Webster RHP
4. Garrett Gould RHP
5. Angel Sanchez RHP
6. Joc Pederson OF
7. Angelo Songco 1B/OF
8. Shawn Tolleson RHP
9. Blake Smith OF
10. Jake Lemmerman SS/2B
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