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TBLA 2011 Community Review: Kid Kershaw

Eric Stephen did the preview:

Year Age IP BB/9 K/9 ERA FIP x-FIP tERA ERA+
2008 20 107.2 4.3 8.4 4.26 4.08 3.96 4.37 98
2009 21 171.0 4.8 9.7 2.79 3.08 3.90 3.10 143
2010 22 204.1 3.57 9.34 2.91 3.12 3.64 3.03 133
2011 23 233 2.08 9.57 2.28 2.47 2.84 2.52 163
2011 Projections - Age 23 Season



Year
IP BB/9 K/9 ERA FIP
Bill James
213.0 4.1 9.3 3.13 3.22


Marcel
179.0 3.7 9.4 3.07 3.15


Baseball HQ
189.0 3.7 9.2 3.14


ZiPS
193.2 4.0 9.4 3.02


The experts did not see the huge command gains or the ERA drop that goes with it.

TBLA members expected great things from Clayton but only a few took it to the level Clayton took it.

I think Josie wins this:

ERA: 2.251
WHIP: -1
IP: 203
Ks: 215
W-L: 20-3

Kershaw is Aces. I once saw Kershaw pull a woman from a burning building, that he set on fire, just to test himself.

by Josie Becker on Feb 7, 2011 9:24 AM PST actions

Dodgerblue looks good

IP-215
ERA-2.85
WHIP-1.03
Ks-230
19-6

A bit of a stretch but I can wish can’t I?

by Dodgerblue8188 on Feb 7, 2011 9:26 AM PST actions

Mammoth nails Cy Young

ERA: 2.69
WHIP: 1.078
IP: 219
Cy Young: 1

Hating the Giants for going on a half century and counting!

by MammothDodger on Feb 7, 2011 11:25 AM PST actions

Musicfan did offer much but just about nailed the win / loss

Yours Truly

ERA 2.49
WHIP 1.04
IP 232
K 219
Cy Young Voting – 3rd Place due to only 18 wins

"I don't see how an article of clothing can be indecent. A person, yes. "

by meercatjohn on Feb 7, 2011 7:44 AM PST actions

Michael and David both had Clayton posting plus 3.00 ERA's. Punks

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Am I nuts, I think my prediction was pretty close.

TBLA 2011 Postseason Prediction Champion

by Ivdown on Jan 13, 2012 1:51 PM PST reply actions  

Post it, if wins were below 18 or ERA above 2.60 I cut it off.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Ok, I was really close on his numbers for 2010, let’s hope I can do the same for 2011

Kershaw 2011:

2.55 ERA
1.10 WHIP
235 strikeouts
222.2 Innings
75 Walks
170 Hits

Top 3 in Cy Young voting

“If we hit that bull’s eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate”

by Ivdown on Feb 8, 2011 12:13 AM PST actions

TBLA 2011 Postseason Prediction Champion

by Ivdown on Jan 13, 2012 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes, you should have been mentioned. Excellent job

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

I had no clue you had him with such a great season

I always thought I was on the highest side of his projections.

TBLA 2011 Postseason Prediction Champion

by Ivdown on Jan 13, 2012 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

2.55 ERA – 2.28
1.10 WHIP – 0.98
235 strikeouts – 248
222.2 Innings – 233.1
75 Walks – 54
170 Hits – 174

Kershaw outshined my predictions, nothing better than that :)

TBLA 2011 Postseason Prediction Champion

by Ivdown on Jan 13, 2012 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t know what your prediction was, but I will say that

Yes, you are nuts

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

good point, that is a given, lol

TBLA 2011 Postseason Prediction Champion

by Ivdown on Jan 13, 2012 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Crazy, they’ve been debating the Clippers playing under Lakers banners debate, and if Clippers would dare hang a division champion banner next to the 16 world championship banners… they must read TBLA.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 1:57 PM PST reply actions  

oops, on ESPN 710, 1st Max and Marcellus, and now on Ireland and Mason.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 1:57 PM PST up reply actions  

The idea of a Clipper Division winner is new, expect all sorts of bizarre conversations. They might want to wait until 50 games are played

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

A Laker win tonight

would mean that tomorrow would either mean a virtual tie for first place or the Lakers and Clippers with the same number of losses but the Lakers would have twice as many wins as the Clippers.

by bhsportsguy on Jan 13, 2012 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I think we have a back to back to back next week to start making up for the easier schedule.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

I’d hang a division winning banner, but would probably draw the more likely line of hanging a #7 seed banner.

by Xeifrank on Jan 13, 2012 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

you cant hang no division banner, this is LA… this aint Sacramento… Dodgers dont even hang division banners. I dont think.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Not to metion Ive always though of winning a division in basketball as pretty meaningless… Ive never felt YEAH! We won the pacific division!!

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

We aren’t you, a Division win would be big in our world.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 2:05 PM PST up reply actions  

How big though?? Would it really be that big? it would look pretty hilarious next to 16 championship banners…. I think you guys should wait til you win the whole thing… it will be that much sweeter.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 2:07 PM PST up reply actions  

well it should be…. im not saying its a dick measuring contest…. im just saying a division banner shouldnt be raised in the NBA, for anyone…. but nobody cares what I think…. Lakers fans will have fun with it though when the commercials play “Come out and see your Clippers raise the 2011-12 Pacific Division Banner” Ofcourse you guys dont care what Laker fans say either.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

There will be a ring ceremony too. Don’t forget that.

by Xeifrank on Jan 13, 2012 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought your filter eliminated Clippers chat.

by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 2:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I replaced it with “watch” in the previous thread. :)

by Xeifrank on Jan 13, 2012 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Michael, relax man, I feel like you are getting defensive as in im bashing the Clippers and im not, its just conversation and opinions.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

this isnt about who has what about of titles, or Clippers and Lakers, its about if raising a division banner in the NBA is worth it.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, the answer is yes

It’s PR 101. Anything good that happens to the team/company should be marketed

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Jan 13, 2012 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Then why dont the Celtics have division banners raised??

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 2:20 PM PST up reply actions  

You know the answer

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Because they suck at PR

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Jan 13, 2012 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

haha, mleadman is funny.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 2:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m jealous of this ability to properly articulate an intelligent thought.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 2:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks, Phil!

Sometimes I’ll close my eyes and swing as hard as I can, and amazingly, the ball will find the bat!

by ishXdavid on Jan 13, 2012 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

<3

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena

by Maddz on Jan 14, 2012 12:02 AM PST up reply actions  

Well, you managed OK just now.

by berkowit28 on Jan 13, 2012 5:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Or what if Clippers win the division, but Lakers win the championship, then what??? that would be crazy. But for real, then what?

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 2:15 PM PST up reply actions  

We’ll all find someway to persevere, some how, some way.

by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

no, I meant would Clippers still raise division banner then? would you still want division banner raised??

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Dam man, you are getting way too emotional about this…. why?

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

You’re like an 8 year old who keeps asking questions. Why? What if? Then what? It’s driving me crazy.

by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Its not driving anyone else crazy, or they arent going all crazy about it… if you cant handle it, dont be involved then. Others seem to be ok with it…. if nobody answers my questions, then I will know that nobody cares.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 2:25 PM PST up reply actions  

ha ha

but yeah Chris you have taken this to an annoying place.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 2:26 PM PST up reply actions  

if it annoys people, why do they respond then? thats what I dont get. when nobody responds to what I say, then I get the hint that nobody cares… but if they do respond, I take it as they do care.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 2:28 PM PST up reply actions  

My guess is that after a while it comes across as trolling. And trolling does usually incite responses. Just keep in mind I am not complaining. Clipper talk > Watch talk imo.

by Xeifrank on Jan 13, 2012 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I find Clipper talk only topped by Dodger talk

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Seems like TBLA could easily spin off a half dozen or so IPO blogs for SBN. Just winging it here…

Clipper Bashing Nation = uschris0304

Light Saber Babble = Josie, but she would have to hang up her LAC cleats.

Drinks and Diapers = Humma

The Wine Cellar = HollywoodJoe

Gambling Rambler = Me

by Xeifrank on Jan 13, 2012 2:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Because we need a Firefly page...

’round the ’verse = Me and about 7 others Im sure

by EMDarrow on Jan 13, 2012 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

pretty sure Light Saber Babble would include Firefly

by Josie Becker on Jan 13, 2012 2:51 PM PST up reply actions  

but they had six shooters

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

there was one laser gun

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Jan 13, 2012 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m almost offended that Xei didn’t include me, but I am happy to have fallen off his radar

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena

by Maddz on Jan 14, 2012 12:04 AM PST up reply actions  

The wine cellar = HJ

The whine seller = me

Still chasing the dream of mediocrity

by Humma Kavula on Jan 13, 2012 9:08 PM PST up reply actions  

by the way, one more thing, I ask alot of questions because I respect the sports knowledge alot of you guys have, or knowledge in general, and like to pick your brain to increase my sports knowledge. Or to get a different perspective of how a fan of another team thinks.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Ha, I don’t believe you give one iota what other fans think. It is a way of asking and then telling us how the great Laker fans do it as a way of reminding us that we root for a franchise with little history of success and even if we have some success this year it does not mean squat in your eyes.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 2:36 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ll admit things I say will come off with an arrogance that lets you know my team rules! But I dont ask things im not interested in knowing the answer to. I really think alot of you guys are very smart with sports, and more. Much smarter then me in some areas lol, and I come here to raise my game, the best I can.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

anyways, if possible, if im being annoying, or u dont give a shit, just dont respond, then I know nobody is interested in talking about it, I move on.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 2:40 PM PST up reply actions  

So how do you Clipper fans handle being so pathetic compared to the mighty Laker juggernaut? Does this brief moment of success make up for decades of failure? I’m just asking questions.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jan 13, 2012 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

ha, come on man, its not that bad… if it is, im sorry, because now I see it.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I'll second this...

The sports banter here on TBLA is far superior than any other community I frequent. My coworker just moved here from Ohio and is a die-hard Reds fan. I was relaying information from TBLA about potential Reds prospects for trade, and he was astounded that Dodger fans were so knowledgeable.

I’m a member of a SBNation college site where dissent is not allowed. The moderators ban members who they deem to not toe the company line. You guys are awesome. Stay Gold!

by ishXdavid on Jan 13, 2012 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

is it Swatch? has he met Swatch?

by G.Scott on Jan 13, 2012 6:48 PM PST up reply actions  

this

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena

by Maddz on Jan 14, 2012 12:04 AM PST up reply actions  

When Swatch subbed for us, I very nearly called him Oglivie.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 14, 2012 1:24 AM PST up reply actions  

ok , sorry, didnt realize I couldnt ask questions.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 2:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Silverwidow stupid questions have been grandfathered in.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Nobody is saying that.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

well

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Jan 13, 2012 2:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Then somehow Dwight Howard and Deron Williams ended up Lakers

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Sure we do. I especially care that if the Clippers do win the Western Division Championship that Laker fans can relish the fact they get to pay twice as much for a ticket to watch an inferior team.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Exactly. Chris, did it sink in that if the Clippers have a West Div banner, that means they bettered the Lakers?


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Did Clipper tix

go up this year? Or did the strike kill any price hike across the board?

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Jan 13, 2012 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

In 2001 my ticket was $40, in 2011 my ticket is $50
In 2001 my Laker ticket was $70, in 2011 my Laker ticket is $120

My Clipper seats are 20 rows closer.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Let them raise whatever banners they want

As a UCLA fan, I revel in pointing out that only NCAA championship banners are hung in Pauley Pavilion, unlike at North Carolina and Kentucky, where everything from conference titles to Sweet 16s to NIT championship find their way onto the rafters.

by ishXdavid on Jan 13, 2012 2:20 PM PST up reply actions  

They can burn the division banner when they put up the championship banner. That felt wierd typing.

by Xeifrank on Jan 13, 2012 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

that would be fine… but as far as I know once a banner goes up, it never comes down.. but maybe.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 2:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Yet another LOL Clippers post.

Get off it already.

by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Seen any good abortions lately? /Eric S

by Xeifrank on Jan 13, 2012 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m talking about the Clippers.

by Xeifrank on Jan 13, 2012 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I know you are talking about the Clippers

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 2:05 PM PST up reply actions  

When you have never won one, I think you can hang one.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

The Kings have their banners from the 90s. Conn Smythe trophy, shit like that. I think it’s comparable.

by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Conn Smythe trophy is the Stanley Cup MVP??… we have had that? or you mean western conference champs?

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Uh, guess it wasn’t Conn Smythe then. I thought the divisions used to have names like that (before they changed it to geographical terms.)

by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 2:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I think the Kings were in the Smythe Division of the Campbell Confrence.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jan 13, 2012 2:12 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah I believe they do… well, I still dont agree with the division thing… But a West Conference champion banner I suppose is more accpetable.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I miss the old NHL Division names

I always thought there was something regal about Smythe, Patrick, Adams, Norris, Campbell, and Wales.

by ishXdavid on Jan 13, 2012 2:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Baseball should name its six divisions after an obscure dead baseball figure.

Phillies are back to back Rusty Staub league champs!!

by Xeifrank on Jan 13, 2012 2:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Whatever league John Rocker is in is the Ty Cobb league!

by fbihop on Jan 13, 2012 2:12 PM PST up reply actions  

There better be an Old Hoss Radbourne division. How about a Johnny Dickshot division?


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

American League switched to the Sultan of Oman confrence.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jan 13, 2012 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

The Ottoman Conference

would be awesome. Also Ming and Visigoth

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Jan 13, 2012 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I went through a phase where I was obsessed about the Ottoman empire. Read everything I could get my hands on. This came after my Byzantine phase so I guess it was a natural progression.

by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 2:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I never got into it that much. I would much rather put my feet up and relax.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 2:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I will wreck this, and possibly BH

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 2:28 PM PST up reply actions  

50/50 on Josie.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 2:30 PM PST up reply actions  

She’s no creamsicle:)

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

that’s a rec, but I’m pretty sure the Ottoman won in that case

by Josie Becker on Jan 13, 2012 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh, then you don’t exactly get it.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh Rob

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 2:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Just want to say, I only saw DVDS after I was older and everytime MTM said that line I wanted to hit that in a good way.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

She did know how to wear those capris.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

There is more than one opening. In the original opening, he trips over the ottoman. In later years, he is about to trip over the ottoman and then deftly sidesteps it.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 3:18 PM PST up reply actions  

ah, yes, I remember the alternate opening now : )

by Josie Becker on Jan 13, 2012 3:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Best Sitcom ever. (with apologies to Bob Newhart)

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Jan 13, 2012 2:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Really, probably the father of at least a certain style of sitcom. You can see the influence from then on, including Newhart’s various ones.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 3:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m doing late antique studies!

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena

by Maddz on Jan 14, 2012 12:06 AM PST up reply actions  

No wonder you like Marty.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 14, 2012 9:48 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Le Grande Orange is still alive and kicking

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Vin loved Rusty Staub

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Jan 13, 2012 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Redheads stick together?


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Something’s gotta hang

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Jan 13, 2012 2:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Left or right?


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Clippers Division/Conference Banners?

The Clippers should be able to hang whatever banner they see fit because Staples is their arena too. I don’t think they should put it on the same wall as the Lakers though, or do ALL banners have to go there? I know the Kings and Sparks also have banners on the wall, so if they must, at least make it bigger than the Sparks banner but smaller than the Lakers title banners.

If the Clippers win the title, they deserve a full-size banner. I wonder if the Clippers have a title banner design chilling in the front office hard drive?

by ishXdavid on Jan 13, 2012 2:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Uh-oh

Orel invented Tebowing back in 88

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 1:57 PM PST reply actions  

ha, I think Orel does it way better.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

I think

he lost a contact

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Jan 13, 2012 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I think

he’s hunting for ladybugs. #WhatAFiveYearOldWouldDo

by Xeifrank on Jan 13, 2012 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I believe

Orel recited the Lord’s Prayer on the Tonight Show right after the World Series

by bhsportsguy on Jan 13, 2012 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I vaguely remember this

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

hiyo

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Jan 13, 2012 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

He was singing hymns to himself in the dugout during Game 5 in Oakland.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Thank you, I'm saving this picture.

In 1989, I played my first year of organized baseball. My team, the Giants (UGH!), was terrible. We were winless going into the last game of the season, and the manager gave me the ball to try to salvage what was left of our 9-year old pride. I ended up going the distance (no pitching limits back then), and when I struck out the last batter, I knelt on one knee just like my idol Bulldog in the 1988 NLCS. If it weren’t for Orel capturing my 8 year-old heart, I wouldn’t be the fan I am today.

by ishXdavid on Jan 13, 2012 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Great story

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

This is his “how did you like that fastball, Howard Johnson?” pose.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm glad

I didn’t predict Kershaw correctly for two reasons.

by Xeifrank on Jan 13, 2012 1:59 PM PST reply actions  

what are those reasons

TBLA 2011 Postseason Prediction Champion

by Ivdown on Jan 13, 2012 2:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Ah, glad somebody took the bait.

1. It means my prediction system is sane.
2. It means Kershaw had an incredible season.

by Xeifrank on Jan 13, 2012 2:38 PM PST up reply actions  

It FINALLY comes out.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 2:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Xes a closet Giants fan? Burn him! Heretic!

by EMDarrow on Jan 13, 2012 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I think I have more MCC Fanposts than TBLA Fanposts this off-season. So maybe I am.

by Xeifrank on Jan 13, 2012 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

This just makes me sick

:P

TBLA 2011 Postseason Prediction Champion

by Ivdown on Jan 13, 2012 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey Frank

I occasionally browse MCC and Fangraphs, looking for you to put peons in their place. Keep up the awesome work!

by ishXdavid on Jan 13, 2012 3:58 PM PST up reply actions  

haha, thanks. Actually I tread pretty lightly over at MCC. Their team. Their blog. Try to add something team related.

by Xeifrank on Jan 13, 2012 4:02 PM PST up reply actions  

If there's a question that looks like it needs to be asked

I’m likely someone who will ask it :)

Projections for pitchers always seem too low, much more so than for hitters i’ve noticed.

TBLA 2011 Postseason Prediction Champion

by Ivdown on Jan 13, 2012 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Dammit Bobby we were going to leave him hanging

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Hank Hill was alright

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Definitely not a bad thing

He’s the assistant manager for Strickland Propane, I tell ya hwhat.

TBLA 2011 Postseason Prediction Champion

by Ivdown on Jan 13, 2012 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Until now, I had no idea that Fangraphs linked back to TBLA right alongside the Hardball Times.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 2:01 PM PST reply actions  

They RSS the SBN baseball articles, no?

by Xeifrank on Jan 13, 2012 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

I was unaware they did until a few minutes ago.

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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 2:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I remember that working relationship being established. I thought that was part of the reason we started linking to their box scores on game recaps and stuff.


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by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Even better, they got rid of the Bleacher Report box.

by fbihop on Jan 13, 2012 2:10 PM PST up reply actions  

This Friday on Extreme Makeover: Home Edition’s series finale, watch Los Angeles Lakers guard Kobe Bryant help collect clothes and coordinate relief for residents of Joplin, Mo., a town devastated by a tornado last May.

I wonder if they bothered to give Elbert a call

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Jan 13, 2012 2:16 PM PST reply actions  

Kobe asked Ethier for Elbert’s phone number. Ethier didn’t know who the fuck that was.

by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 2:17 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Watch your daughters Joplin!

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Jan 13, 2012 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Easy rec.


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by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 2:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I did pause briefly before clicking post.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 2:54 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s offensive on two separate levels so you kind of split the outrage vote. Brilliant strategy.

by kinbote on Jan 13, 2012 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Im 2/7 offended so after rounding Im not offended at all.

by EMDarrow on Jan 13, 2012 4:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Dr. Jay32 is making his first trip to Camelback Ranch this year, and wanted to know some suggestions for what to expect or any tips from spring training vets.

He put up a fan post. Help him out, won’t you?

by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 2:18 PM PST reply actions  

Shouldn’t he be linked to that great fanpost someone put up about everything you’d want to know about Camelback but were afraid to ask?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 2:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Haven’t found it yet :)

by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I did find that post, by JJ24,, and gave Dr. Jay the link as well.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 2:33 PM PST up reply actions  

great, I was thinking it was JJ

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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 2:33 PM PST up reply actions  

I was just reading through that again. A really informative guide by JJ24.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 2:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I think I added some driving tips – if this goes back to Year 1, which was when I was there.

by berkowit28 on Jan 13, 2012 6:03 PM PST up reply actions  

I've only been to Camelback once or twice 2 years ago

But if you see Kershaw walking somewhere, go up and talk to him, don’t not, like some people >.<

TBLA 2011 Postseason Prediction Champion

by Ivdown on Jan 13, 2012 2:37 PM PST up reply actions  

did I even enter a prediction?

I feel like I would have guessed something extremely optimistic and won this if I had.

@TElciram

by Taylor Maricle on Jan 13, 2012 2:20 PM PST via Android app reply actions  

You did not.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, see

I’m so optimistic that i’d probably be up there in the post.

Take my 2.90 ERA for Billingsley prediction, for example.

@TElciram

by Taylor Maricle on Jan 13, 2012 6:28 PM PST up reply actions  

THIS November!


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by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 2:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Next… this… upcoming …. all the same to me if you can read between the lines.

by Xeifrank on Jan 13, 2012 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Do they hang NLDS Champion banners? :D

by EMDarrow on Jan 13, 2012 2:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Eric – based on the time frame we started these previews last year we have about a month to go before they start. Yikes, I can’t wait to write about this team.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 2:38 PM PST reply actions  

Kershaw, Kemp, Jansen, Lindbom, Elbert, Loney, Ethier, and Billingsley

The only previews I can think of right now that would feel at all optimistic about.

TBLA 2011 Postseason Prediction Champion

by Ivdown on Jan 13, 2012 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

On the bright side

you write one for Jerry Hairston and it can pretty much get C&P’d to all of the FA signings this season.

by EMDarrow on Jan 13, 2012 2:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I was working out the schedule earlier this week. I’ll email you guys. I think February 13 or so will be the start date.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m looking forward to it too.

by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 2:40 PM PST up reply actions  

UFC talk

Anthony Johnson missed weight. By 11 pounds.

ELEVEN!

Now I hope Vitor beats him down.

by fbihop on Jan 13, 2012 2:41 PM PST reply actions  

Heavy or light? Isn’t he coming up a weight class?

by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 2:42 PM PST up reply actions  

11 pounds heavy, moved up from welterweight to middleweight. I bet he just thought it would be easier to cut and didn’t work at it as hard as he had.

But, yeah, if he get knocked out, he might be looking for a new place to fight.

by fbihop on Jan 13, 2012 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

They’ll still let them fight with that much of a weight disparity? I guess it’s overseas, but I didn’t think that would get sanctioned.

by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 2:45 PM PST up reply actions  

In boxing it would have to be called off, or made a non-title fight, no belt at stake. Would it be the same in UFC?


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Johnson loses 20% of his purse and Belfort had to agree to go on with the fight.

by fbihop on Jan 13, 2012 2:48 PM PST up reply actions  

What I’m concerned about is that Rumble knew he was gonna miss weight, knew no one ever backs out because their opponent missed weight, so he just said fuck it and decided to not cut most of the way. So he’ll come in mostly healthy and just slaughter Vitor.

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by regfairfield on Jan 13, 2012 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s why it makes sense for the title not to be at stake. (Is it belts in UFC?)


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by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

It is belts. This was non-title to begin with.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jan 13, 2012 2:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, since he was so far off, he probably just said, “fuck it.”

If they miss by a pound or two it usually means they worked as hard as possible to cut down there but didn’t quite make it so are way drained.

In this case, however…

Vitor has fought at heavier weights, though, so it won’t be completely new to him.

by fbihop on Jan 13, 2012 2:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Ya, Johnson would have had to be walking around at 225 a few weeks ago to fully cut and still be off this much.

Says the guy who’s never cut weight in his life.

by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 2:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I guarantee Johnson will never take a fight on short notice.

by fbihop on Jan 13, 2012 3:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe he does walk around at 225….

by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 3:02 PM PST up reply actions  

There was footage of him training for this fight and he’s way bigger than Rashad Evans.

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by regfairfield on Jan 13, 2012 3:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I saw that. I bet Rashad could make middleweight.

by fbihop on Jan 13, 2012 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Totally, he’s one of the smaller guys at LHW.

Rumbles going with “I got sick this morning and the doctors made me drink fluids otherwise I totally would have made weight” as an excuse. Could be true, could be his body telling him don’t try to cut 40 pounds, dummy.

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by regfairfield on Jan 13, 2012 3:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, if he stayed in some sort of shape, besides pear-shaped, between fights, he would have made it easily.

by fbihop on Jan 13, 2012 3:20 PM PST up reply actions  

my boss is currently trying to make weight for his bjj competition at the end of the month.

Training with him sucks.

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena

by Maddz on Jan 14, 2012 12:12 AM PST up reply actions  

I thought you only miss a weight by being heavy. If you want to fight way under the limit, that’s your prerogative.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I assumed that’s what he meant, just surprised since he’d been fighting at WW

by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

There is a minimum weight; Dan Henderson weighed in at 207 when he fought against Fedor — 1 pound over the minimum.

So I ASSUME that means the minimum is 1 lb over the next lightest class but can’t find confirmation anywhere.

by fbihop on Jan 13, 2012 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

This is true.

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by regfairfield on Jan 13, 2012 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm guessing its a safety thing eh?

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Jan 13, 2012 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah. Doesn’t apply in Japan, though.

by fbihop on Jan 13, 2012 2:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Why do I have to be told how many followers fbi has?

by berkowit28 on Jan 13, 2012 6:08 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s a measuring contest.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 6:12 PM PST up reply actions  

For those of you interested in such things

Clayton Kershaw will be signing copies of his new book Sunday at the Ralph’s in Porter Ranch / Chatsworth (on Rinaldi).


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 2:45 PM PST reply actions  

Yes, thanks.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

In fact, Clayton says that as we pursue our dreams, we need to build a relationship with God, build solid relationships with others and become givers from the start. Clayton says, “I want every pitch and every batter faced to be about something more than a game.”

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

ha ha

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 2:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Clayton is going to be one of those people who will remind me on a daily basis what a piece of shit human being I am.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 2:48 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought you had a wife for that.


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by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I think the Ipad has a an app for it

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 2:51 PM PST up reply actions  

First and foremost, I’m glad he’s on our team.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 13, 2012 2:57 PM PST up reply actions  

The keywords in the Amazon title:

Arise
Faith
Dreams
Whatever
Yourself

kinda sums up my religious experiences in my 37 years on the planet.

Still chasing the dream of mediocrity

by Humma Kavula on Jan 13, 2012 9:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Porter Ranch is in Chatsworth?!?!??! I had no idea. When I think of Chatsworth, I think of the pr0n industry. Is Porter Ranch a gentrified section?

by ishXdavid on Jan 13, 2012 2:48 PM PST up reply actions  

They live above the smell of the Northern San Fernando Valley and risk being blown away every day

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Pretty much. And a 5 degree break from the heat too.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Porter Ranch is Northridge. The store is kinda where Northridge and Chatsworth border.


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by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks!

My only forays into the SFV were the old illegal drag races on Saticoy and in Sylmar.

by ishXdavid on Jan 13, 2012 2:51 PM PST up reply actions  

if you live in Porter Ranch, your mail doesnt say Porter Ranch right? Says Northridge? So Porter Ranch isnt an official city I guess… shit I asked too many questions.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

I send a holiday card every year to my friend in Porter Ranch. It’s a place. So is Playa Vista.

by kinbote on Jan 13, 2012 2:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Northridge is not a city, but an official community of the city of Los Angeles, as is Porter Ranch. Northridge is also a post office “area” of some sort. The Porter Ranch post office is for the Northridge zip code of 91326. The post office says you can address letters to 91326 as either Porter Ranch or Northridge.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes. As long as it says Los Angeles your mail will get there.

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Jan 13, 2012 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought Porter Ranch is on its own, and Chatsworth and Northridge are below, maybe a section of Granada Hills too.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

or maybe Granada Hills is to the right of Porter Ranch.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Chatsworth tried to hang a banner in Porter Ranch but it blew away

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

ROFLMAO

I hope this becomes a new TBLA meme.

by ishXdavid on Jan 13, 2012 2:51 PM PST up reply actions  

haha…funny, you older guys, you, marty, Btimm are freakin funny as hell man….

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 2:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I love you threw B Timm in there. He’ll be happy to know he’s added about 15 years:)

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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

so he isnt old… I guess he just says he is old because he said he cant stand drunk people at Dodger Stadium around him, and I said its because he is old… and he does work at a library from what I know.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 2:54 PM PST up reply actions  

2 yrs older than me, so very old

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Yutes to me

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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 2:56 PM PST up reply actions  

age is nothing but a banner

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 2:56 PM PST up reply actions  

If only I was hung

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 2:56 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

how is this not green?!

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena

by Maddz on Jan 14, 2012 12:14 AM PST up reply actions  

I can’t stand drunk fans either, and I’m not that old.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 13, 2012 2:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I miss fanposts like that

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 3:02 PM PST up reply actions  

you can experience again, just do a search

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 3:02 PM PST up reply actions  

you trolling the SBNation search engine?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 3:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I don’t get that. Don’t any one care about proving someone wrong about something they said six months ago?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 3:05 PM PST up reply actions  

When there is the google domain search as a nice workaround, meh.


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by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 3:13 PM PST up reply actions  

that was one of the better Fanposts.

by Xeifrank on Jan 13, 2012 3:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow! Haven’t heard that for awhile.

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Jan 13, 2012 3:05 PM PST up reply actions  

ive always said if you just mind your own business, you wont be bothered… its when you get brave and start asking someone to stop that, or be quiet, that your problems begin.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 3:19 PM PST up reply actions  

It is impossible to mind your own business when someone else is throwing shit at you.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 3:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ve always drawn the line at shit, peanuts I can handle, but not shit.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 3:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Roger would agree!

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Jan 13, 2012 3:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ve always thought BTimm was stately.

by ishXdavid on Jan 13, 2012 2:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Btimm is the smartest guy I know… well dont know, but have seen on the internet… so dam smart… I dont get 75% of his jokes because I have no idea what he is talking about he is so dam smart.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 2:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Without his search engines he’s only the 3rd smartest fella on the internet.

I dont get 75% of his jokes because I have no idea what he is talking about he is so dam smart.

i’m right with you

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 3:08 PM PST up reply actions  

He’s Uncle Google’s uncle.

by berkowit28 on Jan 13, 2012 6:13 PM PST up reply actions  

and what smell are you refering to??

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Horses:)

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Victory (Blvd)

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 13, 2012 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey now, that is to close to home

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

It was a weak Apocalypse Now reference.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 13, 2012 3:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Still, that is my home

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 3:10 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought you were above the horses, isnt that below?

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 3:17 PM PST up reply actions  

He never said he lived in Porter Ranch.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 3:19 PM PST up reply actions  

WE LOVE IT!


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 3:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Dont think it blew away, more likely it was arrested for indecent exposure.

by EMDarrow on Jan 13, 2012 4:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Technically

Porter Ranch is one of the three or four zip codes for Northridge.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 2:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Chatsworth is the porn capital of the world… but I bet some of the scenes are shot in homes in Porter Ranch.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

So that’s where those houses are!

by ishXdavid on Jan 13, 2012 2:57 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah, but I think the outdoor scenes by the pool where you see alot of huge ass boulders in the background are in Chatsworth… Thats like Chatsworth park or something, people like to climb those boulders,

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 2:59 PM PST up reply actions  

people like to climb those boulders,

…to get a better view of the filming no doubt.

by EMDarrow on Jan 13, 2012 4:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought he was talking about the girls

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 4:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Thats not climbing they’re doing with those boulders.

by EMDarrow on Jan 13, 2012 4:49 PM PST up reply actions  

well you do have to get a handhold

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 13, 2012 4:50 PM PST up reply actions  

exactly!

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 13, 2012 4:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Had lunch last week at a Thai place with a table full of Eastern Europe Porn ladies behind me. It was fun watching my foodmates try to eat lunch without looking to hard.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

you are missing an “o” in your last to

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 2:59 PM PST up reply actions  

aren’t I always

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 2:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I should hang out in the valley more often.

by ishXdavid on Jan 13, 2012 2:59 PM PST up reply actions  

nah man, you never see any porn stars here, I dont get it…. I cant say I have seen 1 dam porn star, its like they are ghosts.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

33 years in valley, been watching porn for 30 of them, and I still havent ran into one yet…. not at the mall, not anywhere… where do they go when they arent filming? I’d love to know.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Charlie Sheen’s house.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 13, 2012 3:01 PM PST up reply actions  

The clinic.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 3:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Let's play Match Game PM

they are difficult to recognize without a ______ in their _______

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 3:02 PM PST up reply actions  

(superfluous X) (name)

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 13, 2012 3:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Stated watching porn at age 3?

What was that, your parents stratagem for babysitting (onscreen vixens)?

by jim hitchcock (railway) on Jan 13, 2012 4:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Only you caught that

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 4:33 PM PST up reply actions  

didn't you see my comment earlier?!

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Jan 13, 2012 4:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Burbank Karokee bar is loaded with them.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 3:01 PM PST up reply actions  

There is a gym on Topanga Canyon and Nordoff?? or some street close to that where some of them work out… but I havent gone to see yet.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 3:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Nordoff / De Soto

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

maybe that gym too, but there is another gym im thinking of… pretty sure topanga canyon was one of streets… my ex worked there and told me the ones working out there… but only one I see is Topanga Training and Fitness, and thats actually in Woodland hills

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 3:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Used to work in the building on the corner of Independence and Nordhoff. That gym was right behind us, and acroos the street was a porn production company. Girls in and out (literally) all day.

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Jan 13, 2012 3:11 PM PST up reply actions  

right now im on prairie street and mason, im tempted to go on a porn star hunt.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 3:13 PM PST up reply actions  

please do and tell us about it

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 3:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Arrowhead water?


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 3:15 PM PST up reply actions  

haha nah man you asked that before… though that is right up the street on Mason, im more down Prairie street, at a fiber optics communications company….

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 3:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I read an article about that once. I don’t think I want to use the mic after the porn stars have.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 3:06 PM PST up reply actions  

problem is

they keep dropping the mic all the way down their throats

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Bleep blorp.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 13, 2012 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

I am proud to have contributed to another TBLA meme. Bleep blorp my friends. Bleep blorp.

Still chasing the dream of mediocrity

by Humma Kavula on Jan 13, 2012 9:23 PM PST up reply actions  

what you don’t want to use is the remote control in a hotel room

certainly don’t want to change channels with your teeth

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 3:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I just remembered that I took my car in for service a few months back and a girl wearing a Vivid Pictures T-Shirt was just leaving. I suppose anyone can buy those, but it did cause me to double-take to make sure I read it correctly.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 3:46 PM PST up reply actions  

BTW

Which Thai place? The one on Devonshire just west of DeSoto?


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 6:05 PM PST up reply actions  

It's the nice part of Chatsworth

I know I know, who knew there was one.

TBLA 2011 Postseason Prediction Champion

by Ivdown on Jan 13, 2012 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Wrong, see above.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 3:02 PM PST up reply actions  

That's like

West Mars

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Jan 13, 2012 3:18 PM PST up reply actions  

[x]


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 3:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Is most of TBLA from the Valley?

by ishXdavid on Jan 13, 2012 2:55 PM PST reply actions  

BTimm

is from the SFV.

I lived in the SFV for 10 years.

GScott was a South Bay guy for most of his life.

by bhsportsguy on Jan 13, 2012 3:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Btimm is Granada Hills alum too I believe.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 3:12 PM PST up reply actions  

well yeah, went to Kennedy, but lived in granada hills, which Kennedy HS is in. Doesnt he live in Pasadena now?

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 3:14 PM PST up reply actions  

All true but BTimm cannot be called a TBLA person. He never made the jump, he’s DT true and true. For some reason he seemed to take offense when I mocked his hatred of Florida. For a smart guy he has a lot of hatred.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 3:14 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah he is like Jon’s side kick…. was it a loyalty thing??

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 3:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Unlike many, he did not feel the need to say fuck once in a while. Isn’t that why most of you are here?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 3:16 PM PST up reply actions  

FUCK YEAH!


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 3:17 PM PST up reply actions  

I second the fuck yeah…. on of my 1st posts on DT was writing “Padilla is the opening day starter? wtf” He was like 1) using profanity or any euphemisms for profanity… seriously? I cant even write wtf?? and I dont even know what a euphernism is.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 3:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Its like kindergarden over there with all the rules haha… im jk, I love DT too, I dont wanna rag on DT, but the rules are too much.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 3:22 PM PST up reply actions  

At least DT is trying to salvage

some respectability on the ESPN site. Those comment boards are the dregs of the sports internet.

by ishXdavid on Jan 13, 2012 3:24 PM PST up reply actions  

very true, the message boards are the worst of the worst… there are no good message boards anymore, thats why I go to blogs.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 3:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Bless your heart.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 13, 2012 3:23 PM PST up reply actions  

On the last two sites that hosted Dodger Thoughts

Both the LA Times and ESPN will take down comments that use profanity or anything that can be interpreted as profanity.

Sure, it was Jon’s rule on Baseball Toaster about the profanity and he probably would have continued it at the next two sites but nevertheless those are and were the rules there.

by bhsportsguy on Jan 13, 2012 3:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I love Jon and his writing, he is a must read

the commenting format here is much better

and while we are all fools from time to time, some of us more than others, I could suffer some of the fools on the ESPN site no longer

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 3:34 PM PST up reply actions  

hey, arent I one of those fools? :)

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 3:45 PM PST up reply actions  

He didn’t say they all stayed there.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 13, 2012 3:45 PM PST up reply actions  

awww. thats mean :( haha

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 3:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Jon’s non-baseball stuff is my favorite. Don’t get me wrong, his baseball insight is awesome, but it’s when he infuses himself in his writing that he becomes so compelling to read.

by ishXdavid on Jan 13, 2012 3:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Also

The way he turns phrases reminds me of Jim Murray.

by ishXdavid on Jan 13, 2012 3:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Bob is tall but he’s one of those tall people who does not seem comfortable being tall, he always seems to be holding back his height. So, not stately.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 3:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Or maybe he was just being kind to us shorties and didn’t feel the need to remind us that he towers over us mentally and height.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 3:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Who never cursed? Btimm?? I thought he has cursed on twitter before?? Its Jon that I want to see cuss..come on Jon, tell me to shut the fuck up, give me 1 bad word. .. he seems too goody 2 shoes for me, but I guess thats how he is.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 3:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Jon is a regular person with great talent who would tell you to fuck off in person but not on his board. He’d simply ask you to move over to TBLA.

I remember you on DT. You were annoying.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 3:27 PM PST up reply actions  

oh ok, so its a professional thing…. fair enough… as long as he does say fuck in person haha

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 3:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I guess some things never change

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 3:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Jon is a gentleman. Nothing less.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 3:30 PM PST up reply actions  

toward all of Gods good creatures

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 3:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Just kittens………

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Jan 13, 2012 5:07 PM PST up reply actions  

and employs many a Ne’er do well.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 3:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Without cussing, we never would’ve had Eric’s infamous “GFY” moment. That was comedy gold right there.

by EMDarrow on Jan 13, 2012 4:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Jon wants his board to be somewhere his young children can go.

by berkowit28 on Jan 13, 2012 6:25 PM PST up reply actions  

A couple days ago, I copied a snippet of Lasorda’s Bevaqua rant and even edited out the curse words, but it got deleted anyways.

by ishXdavid on Jan 13, 2012 3:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I remember that, and he gave you the same rule 1 line…. you have a different name over there?

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 3:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah… the.sports.dude.

I created my SBNation account and ESPN accounts at different times.

by ishXdavid on Jan 13, 2012 3:43 PM PST up reply actions  

No. When DT started migrating, its commenting software got so awful I couldn’t stand it. At LAT and then even worse at ESPN. Now it’s better but I spend more time here. Occasional fuck is OK but it’s not so occasional here. Lots of noise here, but fun. DT sometimes too prudish. Still, if I have something IMPORTANT to say, I’ll say it both places because I’d like Jon’s approval, or something.

by berkowit28 on Jan 13, 2012 6:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Gary doesn’t live in the South Bay anymore? Anyone else from the South Bay, in case we can carpool when I make my TBLA meet-up debut?

by ishXdavid on Jan 13, 2012 3:12 PM PST up reply actions  

There are a few of us in Culver City. That might be the closest.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 13, 2012 3:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Culver City

Do you consider Culver City the Westside?

by ishXdavid on Jan 13, 2012 3:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Some consider anything West of

Downtown the Westside.

Me, I think West of the 405 or at least Overland Blvd.

by bhsportsguy on Jan 13, 2012 3:21 PM PST up reply actions  

What do you consider the southern border of the Westside? LAX?

by ishXdavid on Jan 13, 2012 3:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Actually

for West LA, I tend to think to Venice or maybe MDR. LAX is it’s own thing. South Bay begins on Rosecrans.

by bhsportsguy on Jan 13, 2012 3:29 PM PST up reply actions  

The 90 works for me. Keeps me on the Westside instead of unincorporatedville.

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by regfairfield on Jan 13, 2012 3:30 PM PST up reply actions  

If you are unincorporated, wouldn’t that make you MDR basically?


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 3:32 PM PST up reply actions  

MDR for roughly a month more then who knows.

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by regfairfield on Jan 13, 2012 3:35 PM PST up reply actions  

So, Jefferson?

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 13, 2012 3:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Poor El Segundo

All on its own.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 3:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Venice for me as well. Anything south and I think South Bay

by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 3:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I live south of Venice and I am definitely not in the South Bay.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 13, 2012 3:32 PM PST up reply actions  

South

I’ve always defined the South Bay as El Segundo, Manhattan Beach, Hermosa Beach, Redondo Beach, Torrance, and the Palos Verdes Peninsula.

by ishXdavid on Jan 13, 2012 3:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I always thought of South Bay as the San Jose area. Was confused when I heard people from LA talking about it. I thought where the hell is this bay at? Bob T told me to look at a map. Yeah, I guess there is a little indentation or curve in the coast line but a bay? I don’t know about you but I hold my bay standards a little bit higher than that, it will always be nothing more than a bight to me. So who here lives in the South Bight area?

by Xeifrank on Jan 13, 2012 3:49 PM PST up reply actions  

It's LA

We turn small things into the biggest things in the world. I believe there’s clinical definition for this type of complex, but since I’m native, I don’t give a flying F what outsiders think.

by ishXdavid on Jan 13, 2012 3:56 PM PST up reply actions  

I am South Bay. I live under the railroad trestle at Rosecrans and Aviation.

I work in Culver City at a Famous Motion Picture Studio.

Still chasing the dream of mediocrity

by Humma Kavula on Jan 13, 2012 9:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Iiii Left my heeeaaart, in Redondo Beach?

by G.Scott on Jan 13, 2012 7:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Ahem.

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena

by Maddz on Jan 14, 2012 12:18 AM PST up reply actions  

SF Valley, ftw!

TBLA 2011 Postseason Prediction Champion

by Ivdown on Jan 13, 2012 3:17 PM PST up reply actions  

The valley that is the high desert

by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 3:22 PM PST up reply actions  

originally though, the Coachella Valley

by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 3:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Im almost the reverse of this

originally the high desert, now I split my time between eastern Riverside co and north SD county.

by EMDarrow on Jan 13, 2012 4:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm in the real valley

San Gabriel. Altadena FTW

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Jan 13, 2012 3:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Some of us are from the other Valley.

by EMDarrow on Jan 13, 2012 4:35 PM PST up reply actions  

And some of us are from the ‘other’ other valley

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Jan 13, 2012 5:10 PM PST up reply actions  

at least a few of us are from Santa Barbara

though I now grace another SF (San Francisco) with my presence.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Jan 13, 2012 5:30 PM PST up reply actions  

hooray for santa barbara!

by mintxcore on Jan 13, 2012 6:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I live and work in the East Bay.

by puresilence on Jan 13, 2012 5:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I did some brief living there too. I assume we are talking the bay that is near SF, not the Santa Monica bay. :) Which city if I may ask?

by Xeifrank on Jan 13, 2012 5:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I live in Berkeley (went to Cal and never left).

by puresilence on Jan 13, 2012 5:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I had a home away from home (apartment) on University Avenue past the gas station near the little library. Probably bulldozed by now.

by Xeifrank on Jan 13, 2012 5:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Sherman Oaks, born and raised

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena

by Maddz on Jan 14, 2012 12:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Live in West Hills

Work on edge of Canoga Park and Woodland Hills (at the epicenter of heat)

by BoilerAero on Jan 14, 2012 8:27 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Eli vs Rodgers

first time 2 super bowl mvps will have ever faced each other in the playoffs

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Jan 13, 2012 3:11 PM PST reply actions  

Wow, that's pretty cool

Even though fuck Eli.

TBLA 2011 Postseason Prediction Champion

by Ivdown on Jan 13, 2012 3:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm just pissed because of the 2007-2008 playoffs

He screwed the Packers (my favorite team) then the Patriots (who I wanted to destroy the Giants after). He’s been on my shit list ever since.

TBLA 2011 Postseason Prediction Champion

by Ivdown on Jan 13, 2012 3:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey Josie!

Who’s your EPL team? I’ve been getting into the EPL more now that I have the Fox Soccer channel.

by ishXdavid on Jan 13, 2012 3:21 PM PST reply actions  

excellent

I support Manchester United for three reasons 1) they’re the easiest club to follow cause their games are always on TV 2) they feature in two of my favorite Brit shows: State of Play and Life of Mars 3) They win a lot.

by Josie Becker on Jan 13, 2012 3:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Being a Dodger fan, I’ve gravitated toward Arsenal because of the similarities between the two organizations: strong tradition, most of the success happened generations ago, and we both believe we still belong with today’s elite.

by ishXdavid on Jan 13, 2012 3:35 PM PST up reply actions  

And you get to say “Tee-air-ee On-ree”

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 13, 2012 3:36 PM PST up reply actions  

you can get that supporting the New York Red Bulls

by Josie Becker on Jan 13, 2012 3:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Arsenal is my second favorite. Never been relegated in over a hundred years, strong tradition, both Arsenal and ManU are traditionally catholic clubs, and always a threat to win even if yeah, not a shoe in as in past years. Have you watched Fever Pitch? It’s a must if you’re considering Arsenal

by Josie Becker on Jan 13, 2012 3:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m going to have to watch the original Fever Pitch, not that Red Sox abomination.

by ishXdavid on Jan 13, 2012 3:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m glad you told me that Arsenal is a traditional Catholic club! I love rivalries… Dodgers-Giants, UCLA-USC, Lakers-Celtics, and especially Catholic-Protestant.

by ishXdavid on Jan 13, 2012 3:42 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't know why

but the Catholic – Protestant thing made me laugh

by bhsportsguy on Jan 13, 2012 3:44 PM PST up reply actions  

ManU-Liverpool is the bigger rivalry. (I’m a Liverpool supporter)

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 13, 2012 3:44 PM PST up reply actions  

I liked Liverpool’s Carlsberg shirts better than the ones they have now. I also like Barca more when they had UNICEF on the front instead of Qatar Foundation. I hope that doesn’t make me racist.

by ishXdavid on Jan 13, 2012 3:50 PM PST up reply actions  

It most certainly makes you racist and a blight on the human race

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 3:51 PM PST up reply actions  

HA!

I just find UNICEF more benevolent to the world as a whole, more so than the Qatar Foundation, which is more regional.

by ishXdavid on Jan 13, 2012 3:52 PM PST up reply actions  

not a fan of falconry?

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Jan 13, 2012 3:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Spurs traditional and historical rivals. Chelsea are johnnny-come-latelys (to Arsenal). Except to Fulham. Very ancient rivalry there.

by berkowit28 on Jan 13, 2012 6:29 PM PST up reply actions  

you can root for Arsenal with K3vo

by G.Scott on Jan 13, 2012 7:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Four Horsemen 2012 version

I am bringing back this gimmick for the 2012 MiLB season. Here are your members:

Criteria: Zero MLB experience. Silverwidow favorite.

by silverwidow on Jan 13, 2012 3:25 PM PST reply actions  

Zlee, Webster, Withrow, Gould?

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 13, 2012 3:26 PM PST up reply actions  

The last two are Castle and Tolleson

by silverwidow on Jan 13, 2012 3:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I was afraid that was Castle.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 13, 2012 3:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Tolleson looks high

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Jan 13, 2012 3:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Tolleson is the guy all the way to the right? Then yes, he is indeed high.

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 3:57 PM PST up reply actions  

That is a sad group of horseman, maybe you should call them the ponyman

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 3:28 PM PST up reply actions  

The Four Eores:)

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 3:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Castle looks like Lugo so I don’t like him already. Plus he looks like an infielder. He also looks weak.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 3:35 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

And I heard his girlfriends ugly. Lacks confidence

by Michael White on Jan 13, 2012 3:35 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Wasn't it?

Aaron Sorkin’s dialogue is nonpareil.

by ishXdavid on Jan 13, 2012 3:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Now I want Sno-Caps.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 13, 2012 3:46 PM PST up reply actions  

hahaha

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena

by Maddz on Jan 14, 2012 12:20 AM PST up reply actions  

It was interesting to me

because most of the dialog didn’t scream Sorkin to me. It lacked his usual rapid fire style.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Jan 13, 2012 3:49 PM PST up reply actions  

very true

Sorkin was demonstrating he’s got more tricks in his bag.

by ishXdavid on Jan 13, 2012 3:51 PM PST up reply actions  

and Phillip Seymour Hoffman

was totes underutilized

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Jan 13, 2012 3:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Kinda like Art Howe.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 13, 2012 3:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Or it was “overcasting”.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 4:16 PM PST up reply actions  

He was a dead ringer for Art Howe though.

by EMDarrow on Jan 13, 2012 4:43 PM PST up reply actions  

What does it matter? Jonah Hill as “Peter Brand” not really like DePodesta at all.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 5:03 PM PST up reply actions  

well

for one arte howe’s character in the movie was likely not an amalgamation of multiple real people, but just based one the one.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Jan 13, 2012 5:42 PM PST up reply actions  

No more so than “Peter Brand” really being DePodesta. Brand isn’t primarily an amalgamation either.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 6:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Looks like a dude you’d give up for two months of Rafael Furcal.

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by regfairfield on Jan 13, 2012 3:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought Wood and the Cubs were done with eachother? Who gave in?

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 4:07 PM PST reply actions  

The Mariners have moved closer to a trade that would net them a “young impact hitter,” reports ESPN’s Jerry Crasnick. A source calls the trade “significant” and says Brandon League is not part of the deal (both links via Twitter).

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 4:07 PM PST reply actions  

Since It's Slow

Crasnick

The #Mariners are moving closer to a trade for a young impact hitter, two baseball sources confirmed.
It’s a "significant trade,’’ says one source. And Brandon League is not part of the return package.

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by regfairfield on Jan 13, 2012 4:08 PM PST reply actions  

Not worth it for the Mariners to get someone for two years at this point.

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by regfairfield on Jan 13, 2012 4:10 PM PST up reply actions  

This says Pineda is going to me. Montero? Bruce? Joey Votto and Yasmani Grandal?

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by regfairfield on Jan 13, 2012 4:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Grandal is a Padre tho

by silverwidow on Jan 13, 2012 4:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Damn that joke doesn’t work any more.

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by regfairfield on Jan 13, 2012 4:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I hope they do better then Smoak this time. Or not I’d rather they stink.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 4:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I would trade Felix before Pineda. Not that I think he is better, just that he is cost controlled and the Mariners aren’t sniffing the playoffs for a while. But I’d make sure I got something good and cost controlled back for Felix. Then again it is #6Org. They are due for a good trade though, or at least one that works out for them.

by Xeifrank on Jan 13, 2012 4:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m just trying to think of teams that would be in a position to take on Felixs contract and have a good young hitter to deal and I’m coming up blank.

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by regfairfield on Jan 13, 2012 4:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Ethier for Felix, bro. Book it.

by silverwidow on Jan 13, 2012 4:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Gordon for Pineda

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Jan 13, 2012 4:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Might work, I think Gordon already hitting arb might be a deal breaker though. Hosmer might jive a little better.

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by regfairfield on Jan 13, 2012 4:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought you meant Dee Gordon here. :)

by silverwidow on Jan 13, 2012 4:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I did :)

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Jan 13, 2012 4:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Was wondering when someone would say this lol

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 13, 2012 4:17 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Felix

per b-ref.

2012 26 Seattle Mariners $18,500,000
2013 27 Seattle Mariners $19,500,000
2014 28 Seattle Mariners $20,000,000

by Xeifrank on Jan 13, 2012 4:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Like the deal, the Yankees seem to be serious about this not crossing the luxury tax threshold though.

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by regfairfield on Jan 13, 2012 4:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Felix for Hanley

Hanley plays SS for Seattle. Salaries come fairly close to matching.

by Xeifrank on Jan 13, 2012 4:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 4:24 PM PST up reply actions  

How about on smaller scale

Pineda for Morrison, Dominquez, and speedy guy

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 4:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Is Ned Colletti’s clone the GM in Seattle?

by ishXdavid on Jan 13, 2012 4:27 PM PST up reply actions  

If the Indians really don’t think Santana can stick at catcher Pineda for Santana then signing Carlos Pena makes a lot of sense.

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by regfairfield on Jan 13, 2012 4:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Pineda for Billy Butler
Pineda for Adam Jones
Pineda for Santana
Pineda for Belt and fast dude
Pineda for Rasmus / Snider / Lind
Pineda for Moustakas / Meyer

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 4:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Pineda for Posey
Pineda for McCutchen
Pineda for Jason Heyward

by silverwidow on Jan 13, 2012 4:17 PM PST up reply actions  

You racheted it up a notch over my group

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 4:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Why stop there? Pineda for Stanton. Pineda for Bryce Harper.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 13, 2012 4:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Speaking of Stanton

How did we not draft the local product?

by ishXdavid on Jan 13, 2012 4:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Try not to think about it. That way lies madness.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 13, 2012 4:22 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Failure at every level from scouting to drafting, going with low ceiling college soft tosser. Other teams also failed, other teams did not have him in their backyard.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 4:23 PM PST up reply actions  

That is a question that causes no small amount of anger among a few members here…

by EMDarrow on Jan 13, 2012 4:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Probably should be something in between yours and Silverwidows guesses. Too little vs too much.

by Xeifrank on Jan 13, 2012 4:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Interesting

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 13, 2012 4:13 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Loney for Smoak

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 13, 2012 4:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Ethier and Capang for Felix/Pineda/Smoak

by silverwidow on Jan 13, 2012 4:19 PM PST up reply actions  

10 TBLA points, redeemable to your local Chuckie Cheese for the most correct guess (limit three guesses).

by Xeifrank on Jan 13, 2012 4:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Trayvon Robinson for Jeff Mathis
Chone Figgins for Juan Uribe
Chone Figgins for Loney

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 13, 2012 4:23 PM PST up reply actions  

and Nolij sets the bar nice and low for us. :)

by Xeifrank on Jan 13, 2012 4:24 PM PST up reply actions  

I didn’t read “significant” as “game-changing.”

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 13, 2012 4:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Pineda for Trumbo

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Jan 13, 2012 4:25 PM PST up reply actions  

or Kendry

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Jan 13, 2012 4:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Steal of the century for the Angels on both of these.

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by regfairfield on Jan 13, 2012 4:27 PM PST up reply actions  

If Angels involved I’d think it would have to be Pineda for Trout / Trumbo

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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 4:28 PM PST up reply actions  

within the same division? Would be gutsy.

by Xeifrank on Jan 13, 2012 4:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Tony Jackson

reports that as expected, Ethier, Loney and Kershaw filed for arbitration today, figures to be exchanged on Tuesday.

by bhsportsguy on Jan 13, 2012 4:11 PM PST reply actions  

Hope each side read the TBLA write ups first.

by Xeifrank on Jan 13, 2012 4:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Seattle trade
JonHeymanCBS Jon Heyman
Sea does have deal according to @jcrasnick. @stonelarry hearing rumblings it MAY involve pineda and montero

by silverwidow on Jan 13, 2012 4:30 PM PST reply actions  

You mean besides his major league .996 OPS:)

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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 4:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Did pretty good in his cup of coffee

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 13, 2012 4:33 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Was one of the youngest players in AAA this year and was damn amazing the last two months. Then went to the bigs and raked.

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by regfairfield on Jan 13, 2012 4:34 PM PST up reply actions  

ah ok I guess I missed his last couple months

because before that hadn’t he not really done anything for a year and a half?

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by nolander on Jan 13, 2012 4:36 PM PST up reply actions  

.289/.353/.517 as possibly the youngest player in AAA in 2010.

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by regfairfield on Jan 13, 2012 4:37 PM PST up reply actions  

And not in the interplanetary league.


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by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 4:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Montero loses some of his luster if he is nothing more than a DH. I wouldn’t trade Pineda for just him. Get the young minor league pitcher too.

by Xeifrank on Jan 13, 2012 4:34 PM PST up reply actions  

not as fun as I thought it would be……

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 13, 2012 4:39 PM PST up reply actions  

theres more!

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Jan 13, 2012 4:41 PM PST up reply actions  

scraps

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by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 13, 2012 4:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Well that solves the problem of not having anywhere to put Montero.

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by regfairfield on Jan 13, 2012 4:40 PM PST up reply actions  

That boom you heard Dave Camerons head exploding.

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by regfairfield on Jan 13, 2012 4:41 PM PST up reply actions  

He likes the idea if not the execution. Thinks they should [maybe] move now to replace Pineda (with E-Jax?] which is cheaper than Fielder would’ve been.

by kinbote on Jan 13, 2012 7:37 PM PST up reply actions  

But Pineda and Fielder is several wins better than Jackson and Montero.

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by regfairfield on Jan 13, 2012 7:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Also mentioned Oswalt as a one year stop gap then flip him at the deadline for a prospect then go after one of the many big gun FA pitchers next off season.

by Xeifrank on Jan 13, 2012 7:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Montero likely goes to DH and hits 5th. Noesi likely #4 or #5 starter.

by Xeifrank on Jan 13, 2012 5:41 PM PST up reply actions  

@JonHeymanCBS
Jon Heyman
trade involves more players than that tho. @StoneLarry suggested it first

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by nolander on Jan 13, 2012 4:40 PM PST up reply actions  

they need more then 1

and this is salary neutral for them right?

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by nolander on Jan 13, 2012 4:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, but at least the word is they don’t want to add much payroll.

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by regfairfield on Jan 13, 2012 4:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Though if they do, they do need a DH now and Prince still needs a home…

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by regfairfield on Jan 13, 2012 4:48 PM PST up reply actions  

so a trade that makes neither team happy

does that mean it was a good trade?

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by nolander on Jan 13, 2012 4:47 PM PST reply actions  

would neither team be happy?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 13, 2012 4:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Greg Johns:
No confirmation from team, but source says Mariners sending Pineda and Jose Campos to Yankees for Jesus Montero/Hector Noesi.

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by nolander on Jan 13, 2012 4:51 PM PST reply actions  

Don’t know anything about the other guys but numbers wise Campos seems like a prospect and Noesi seems like roster filler which doesn’t really even this out.

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by regfairfield on Jan 13, 2012 4:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Sickels has Campos as a B and Noesi’s ceiling is middle relief so who knows.

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by regfairfield on Jan 13, 2012 5:06 PM PST up reply actions  

isn’t Safeco death to righty hitters?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 13, 2012 4:58 PM PST reply actions  

Isn’t Safeco death to hitters?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 5:00 PM PST up reply actions  

i've been told

less so to LHH

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by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 13, 2012 5:02 PM PST up reply actions  

When you think you can get a Votto and get a Montero I can see the outcry, but honestly, couldn’t Montero based on his minor league pedigree be better then Votta very quickly? Okay probably not

Are the Mariners the new Kansas City Athletics for the New York Yankee’s. That seems like a great deal for them. Pineda’s 2nd half ERA was over 5 but his 2nd half peripherals were even better then his 1st half.

Still those Mariners badly needed some offense.

Interesting trade, not one you see very often. I’m trying to think of a comp, coming up empty.

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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 4:58 PM PST reply actions  

Seattle sent Cliff Lee to Texas.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 5:00 PM PST up reply actions  

RIght but Cliff Lee was old, I’m talking about two young studs, one a pitcher for one year and the other the best minor league hitter in baseball.

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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 5:02 PM PST up reply actions  

You just don’t see this unless my memory is simply blank.

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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 5:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Not quite a match but Delmon Young for Matt Garza is the closest thing I can think of.

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by regfairfield on Jan 13, 2012 5:14 PM PST up reply actions  

In some of those three-ways the A’s were in, maybe two stud prospects moved?


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by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 6:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I meant as a counter to the KC/NY analogy. NY isn’t the only team benefiting from Seattle.


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by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 6:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Gotcha

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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 6:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Marty BH anyone

best Thai in town is __________

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 5:03 PM PST reply actions  

in Chatsworth

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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 5:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm not an expert in Thai

But Thai Town east of you has a good reputation. Sapp’s Cafe for their boat noodles is good

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Jan 13, 2012 5:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I can tell you the spiciest Thai in town

Its pretty good but spicy
Jitlada Restaurant
Phone: (323) 663-3104
Address: 5233 W Sunset Blvd. Los Angeles, CA 90027
Hours:
Mon. 5:00 p.m. – 10:30 p.m.
Tue-Thu. 11:00 a.m. – 10:30 p.m.
Fri-Sat. 11:00 a.m. – 11:00 p.m.
Sun. 11:00 a.m. – 10:30 p.m

I am pretty sure they don’t take reservations and parking is a chore.

by bhsportsguy on Jan 13, 2012 5:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Finding a good Thai restaurant is a treasure.

by Xeifrank on Jan 13, 2012 5:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Okay – let’s try this

Who was the best young pitcher to be traded that you can remember?
Who was the best young hitter to be traded that you can remember?

Let’s try for less then two years major league service time and the pitcher has to have already made his mark in major league baseball.

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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 5:04 PM PST reply actions  

Does Pedro qualify?

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Jan 13, 2012 5:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I think so, meets my guidelines, kind of the reverse deal but it works.

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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 13, 2012 5:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Max Scherzer?
Justin Smoak?

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by regfairfield on Jan 13, 2012 5:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Paul Konerko?


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 6:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Babe Ruth comes to mind

though I don’t really remember it, I’m not that old

It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Jan 13, 2012 5:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Jack Curry from YES Network tweets (and Jay Jaffe retweets)
Big night for the Yankees. They have agreed to a 1-year deal with Kuroda, pending a physical. Deal will be between $10 and $11 million.

by bhsportsguy on Jan 13, 2012 5:25 PM PST reply actions  

Good Luck Hiro

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 13, 2012 5:27 PM PST up reply actions  

so then

CC
Pineda
Kuroda
Burnett
Garcia

right?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 13, 2012 5:28 PM PST up reply actions  

At least to start AJ is probably on a really short leash though.

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by regfairfield on Jan 13, 2012 5:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Nova?

1 LHP CC Sabathia
2 RHP Michael Pineda
3 RHP Hiroki Kuroda
4 RHP Ivan Nova BP#8
5 RHP A.J. Burnett

per MLB depth charts.

by Xeifrank on Jan 13, 2012 5:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Depends on if the money Garcia is getting is a deciding factor.

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by regfairfield on Jan 13, 2012 5:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Also the draw of having every pitcher in your rotation having a name that ends in A.

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by regfairfield on Jan 13, 2012 5:56 PM PST up reply actions  

just remembered

they have Phil Hughes to throw in……..fuckers……..

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 13, 2012 5:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Indeed

I still believe a lefty can after a bit master third base

by DodgerofTrolleys on Jan 14, 2012 7:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Hey remember 20 minutes ago when the Yankees number two starter was Ivan Nova?

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by regfairfield on Jan 13, 2012 5:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Yep
Jay Jaffe
Sabathia Pineda Kuroda Nova then Garcia/Burnett/Hughes?

by bhsportsguy on Jan 13, 2012 5:28 PM PST up reply actions  

lol

forgot about Nova

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 13, 2012 5:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Best of luck to him.

Really would have liked to keep him around though…

by puresilence on Jan 13, 2012 5:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I wonder if the fact that hes 37 made Ned look elsewhere.. granted getting slightly younger and significantly more mediocre is probably not awesome

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jan 13, 2012 5:29 PM PST up reply actions  

If he was willing to move, it would have been nice of him to accept the trade.

Still love Hiro, though.

by UCLADodger32 on Jan 13, 2012 5:29 PM PST up reply actions  

he’ll look handsome in pinstripes

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 13, 2012 5:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Too bad. He would have been nice to have in the rotation.

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Jan 13, 2012 5:45 PM PST up reply actions  

some actual baseball news tonight. sweet.

by kinbote on Jan 13, 2012 7:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Me, too.

Still chasing the dream of mediocrity

by Humma Kavula on Jan 13, 2012 9:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Stupid Yankees.

Their rotation suddenly went from erratic to looking very good. Sigh.

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by underdog on Jan 13, 2012 5:31 PM PST reply actions  

There was no way they’d let it stay erratic, they already went through that last season.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 13, 2012 5:33 PM PST up reply actions  

I was starting to wonder though.

But I shouldn’t have.

Hope for the Mariners’ sake Montero is as good as the hype. I’m a little doubtful but we’ll see.

I love Hiro too but am also wondering if, or for how long, he’ll hold up next year.

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by underdog on Jan 13, 2012 5:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Makes a lot of sense to throw 2-3 million Johnny Damon’s way right now.

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by regfairfield on Jan 13, 2012 5:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Or just say screw it, sign Carlos Pena and platoon him with Andruw Jones because you are the Yankees.

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by regfairfield on Jan 13, 2012 5:51 PM PST up reply actions  

The new designated hitter for the 2012 New York Yankees: Manny Ramirez

by UCLADodger32 on Jan 13, 2012 5:37 PM PST reply actions  

well

not for the first 50 games

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 13, 2012 5:37 PM PST up reply actions  

So Kershaw is meeting with the media at Dodger Stadium on Tuesday to, according to the press release, promote his new book.

Sounds like the perfect time to announce his new contract extension to me.

Also, fuck the Yankees.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 5:44 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

an extension would be awesoke

I’d love something that made me smile about the Dodgers rather than roll my eyes and sigh.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 13, 2012 6:16 PM PST up reply actions  

You already got Kemp’s extension. Damn you’re needy.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 6:32 PM PST up reply actions  

incredibly

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 13, 2012 7:04 PM PST up reply actions  

dam, Kershaw has a book already??

by uschris0304 on Jan 13, 2012 6:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Boston only has 15 points

in the second quarter…..

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 13, 2012 5:48 PM PST reply actions  

20 Greatest Games

Episode on game 1 of ’88 series is on again. Can watch this over and over again.

In a year that has been so improbable, the impossible has happened

by JB 8 on Jan 13, 2012 6:25 PM PST reply actions  

Jon Weisman linked to a YouTube video of John Candeleria’s no-hitter against the Dodgers in 1976. The whole game is up there, with all the ABC Monday Night Baseball graphics and all. Great stuff.

Al Michaels, Bob Gibson, and Norm Cash on the call. Bill Russell, FWIW, introduced himself as from Broken Arrow, Oklahoma. (callback)

by Eric Stephen on Jan 13, 2012 6:27 PM PST reply actions  

I remember where I was when that game happened. At my grandpas house in Illinois. Funny how baseball can connect you with deep rooted emotional things.

by Xeifrank on Jan 13, 2012 6:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Heh
dianagram @dianagram
Now playing: Monty Python’s The Life of Brian Cashman .. the story of how a man named Jesus was mistaken for a savior by a bunch of Mariners

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by underdog on Jan 13, 2012 6:57 PM PST reply actions  

Yankees/Mariners

I am currently re-running my simulation of the entire 2012 season with rosters updated for the Yankees and Mariners (swags on lineups and games played per player). Should be ineteresting to see the win total jumps. Yankees should have a jump with the addition of Pineda/Kuroda and loss of Montero. Not sure if the Mariners will see one or not from the addition of Montero and loss of Pineda.

Previous baseline was…
NYA with 91.2 wins
SEA with 71.8 wins

by Xeifrank on Jan 13, 2012 7:06 PM PST reply actions  

Results…
Yankees went up to 92.6 wins
Mariners went up to 72.0 wins

Mariners tally looks like noise. No gain, no loss in wins. Yankees gained a win and a half. Should be difference of (Jones – Montero) + (Pineda + Kuroda – Hughes – Garcia)

by Xeifrank on Jan 13, 2012 9:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Jeter
Granderson
Cano
A-Rod
Teixiera
Swisher
Pena
Gardner
Martin

Welp.

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by regfairfield on Jan 13, 2012 7:26 PM PST up reply actions  

when the teams with the most money also get smart

Pena vs righties = 252/370/513
Jones vs lefties = 263/363/504

no more inefficiencies in baseball..

by Joey Joe on Jan 13, 2012 7:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Too Much Moneyball

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 13, 2012 7:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Yep, once every team knows everything about everything…all thats left is an auction for the best players.

by Joey Joe on Jan 13, 2012 7:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Hernandez/Pineda/Fister would’ve been a decent rotation. Who’d they get for Fister?

by Xeifrank on Jan 13, 2012 7:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Casper Wells and Charlie Furbush.

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by regfairfield on Jan 13, 2012 7:29 PM PST up reply actions  

When Fister stops being Cliff Lee it will look a little better.

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by regfairfield on Jan 13, 2012 7:31 PM PST up reply actions  

# 6 Org

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by underdog on Jan 13, 2012 9:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Charlie Furbush (!), Francisco Martinez, Casper Wells, Chance Ruffin


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 13, 2012 7:30 PM PST up reply actions  

good thing

there will be two wild cards next year :)

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 13, 2012 7:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Rangers, Yankees, Angels, Red Sox, Rays. Four playoff births there?

by Xeifrank on Jan 13, 2012 7:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I wouldnt have, especially if Montero cant play catcher.

Power hitting 1st basemen can be found in free agency fairly often, or power hitters you can put at 1st.

  1. starters hardly ever get to free agency, and when they do they cost a ton..

I’d have kept Rubby.

by Joey Joe on Jan 13, 2012 7:37 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s a big if. I assume Montero could play 1B in the NL for at least six years. If so, I’d do it.

by Xeifrank on Jan 13, 2012 7:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Better way to look at it is Pineda and Kershaw’s age 22 seasons aren’t that far apart (Pineda was worse since Safeco helped his home runs). Pineda has five years of service time left, Kershaw had four. Would you have even considered giving up Kershaw at this time last year?

Compared to what three years of Gio Gonzalez and four years of Mat Latos returned the Mariners got absolutely scammed. Hell, the return for four years of Trevor Cahill isn’t too much less.

Montero has more upside than almost any offensive prospect but Harper, Trout and Profar but the most likely scenario is a DH with a 125 OPS+. That’s just not nearly enough return compared to what other teams got.

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by regfairfield on Jan 13, 2012 7:40 PM PST up reply actions  

It looks like a panic trade for an Ms team that is tired of having the worst offense in baseball.

by Joey Joe on Jan 13, 2012 7:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t claim to be a SME on Pineda, but Mariner fans say he doesn’t have a change up and has some injury concerns.

by Xeifrank on Jan 13, 2012 7:44 PM PST up reply actions  

If there are true injury concerns then maybe they are trying to sell high like the Rockies believe they did with Ubaldo..

by Joey Joe on Jan 13, 2012 7:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Entirely possible. I know nothing much beyond his numbers (a similar strikeout rate and much better walk rate than Kershaw at his age) and maybe he’ll never get better. But what if he improves that change up? What if he stays healthy?

It’s totally possible that the Mariners win this in the end but it seems like it’s betting on a best case scenario from Montero and a worst case from Pineda. If anything it should have been the Yankees throwing in a decent prospect, not the Mariners.

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by regfairfield on Jan 13, 2012 7:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Does this trade remind anyone else of Hamilton for Volquez a couple years ago?

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jan 13, 2012 7:33 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

Phil’s probably glad you reminded him

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 13, 2012 7:36 PM PST up reply actions  

J-Ham has a paid “accountability partner” as part of his coaching/training staff.

by kinbote on Jan 13, 2012 7:39 PM PST up reply actions  

which is now his father in-law.

weird.

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jan 13, 2012 7:41 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

How will Ned Colletti mustache twirl through this development?

by Tripon on Jan 13, 2012 7:40 PM PST reply actions  

The aged cynical part of me

thinks that whatever happens next really won’t be that much different.

by bhsportsguy on Jan 13, 2012 7:46 PM PST up reply actions  

He'll have plenty of time to perfect his mustache twirl when he's unemployed in 8 months.

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by underdog on Jan 13, 2012 9:59 PM PST up reply actions  

If the Rangers sign Yu, the Nats trade for Trumbo and the Blue Jays deal for Smoak, then the only place left for Prince to go is back to Milwaukee for a one-year deal. :)

"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."

by Pure Azure on Jan 13, 2012 8:02 PM PST reply actions  

or a backloaded one

from the Dodgers

/BSI

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 13, 2012 8:08 PM PST up reply actions  

It would take Ned being not a paranoid as fuck about depth.

by Tripon on Jan 13, 2012 8:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Olney
One exec today believes WAS, TEX, CHC may ultimately get this Fielder contract structure: 6 years, opt-out after 3 years, 22-24m a year.

First off, does this mean that’s what Boras would offer? and Second, can’t we do this? CAN’T WE?!?!?!?!?!

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 13, 2012 8:19 PM PST reply actions  

We have so little money we had to backload a contract for Mark Ellis.

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by regfairfield on Jan 13, 2012 8:22 PM PST up reply actions  

reg

you cut straight to the bone

……i picked the wrong month to stop drinking

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 13, 2012 8:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Every month is the wrong month to stop drinking.

Still chasing the dream of mediocrity

by Humma Kavula on Jan 13, 2012 9:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I told

Folks in last September that team wouldn’t have any money based on their bankruptcy filings.

by bhsportsguy on Jan 13, 2012 10:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Anthony Rizzo asks, “there’s no DH in the National League, right?”

"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."

by Pure Azure on Jan 13, 2012 9:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Seriously, that sounds… quite reasonable for Fielder. Especially considering the deal that Pujols got. I would give him that deal.

Still chasing the dream of mediocrity

by Humma Kavula on Jan 13, 2012 9:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Three year opt out on Fielder

Wonder if Fielder would accept 3 years at 25 per from the Dodgers

by wineracquet on Jan 13, 2012 8:46 PM PST reply actions  

Lakers

making things interesting late against the Cavs. #TypicalLakers

by Xeifrank on Jan 13, 2012 9:43 PM PST reply actions  

#TypicalLakers #someoneotherthankobeneedstoscore

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 13, 2012 9:45 PM PST up reply actions  

40 points

3 games in a row for Kobe!

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 13, 2012 9:48 PM PST reply actions  

Kuroda pitched the first Dodgers game I ever saw live. And he won.

Sad to see him go to the Yankees, but he will still always be a favorite of mine.

by fbihop on Jan 14, 2012 12:37 AM PST via Android app reply actions  

I don't wish him Ill

but fuck him for the “I’ll veto any trade to the East coast” thing and then costing us a prospect during a futile season

by Jack Huber on Jan 14, 2012 12:44 AM PST up reply actions  

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Pos No Player 2012 Salary
C 17 Ellis $490,000
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2B 37 Herrera $375,082
3B 6 Hairston $2,250,000
SS 9 Gordon $485,000
LF 23 Abreu $401,311
CF 10 Gwynn $850,000
RF 16 Ethier $10,950,000

OF/1B 33 Van Slyke $388,197
2B/3B 3 Kennedy $800,000
OF/1B 30 Sands $375,175
IF 13 DeJesus $448,992
C 18 Treanor $850,000

SP 22 Kershaw $6,000,000
SP 58 Billingsley $9,000,000
SP 29 Lilly $12,000,000
SP 44
Harang $3,000,000
SP 35 Capuano $3,000,000

CL 74
Jansen $491,000
RHP 52 Lindblom $483,000
RHP 51 Belisario $414,426
RHP 54 Guerra $488,000
RHP 28
Wright $900,000
LHP 57 Elbert $488,500
RHP 60 Coffey $1,000,000

DL 27 Kemp $10,000,000
DL 21 Rivera $4,000,000
DL 12 Sellers $481,000
DL 5 Uribe $8,000,000
DL 55 Guerrier $4,750,000
DL 14 Ellis $2,500,000
60DL 36 Hawksworth $495,000
60DL 41 De La Rosa $485,000

AA 50 Eovaldi $7,885
AAA 56 Antonini $7,869



Manny $8,087,432 deferred


Andruw $3,375,000 deferred


Pierre $3,050,000 deferred
Furcal $3,000,000 deferred
Kuroda $2,000,000 deferred
Garland $1,500,000 option buyout
Blake $1,250,000 option buyout
DFA 66 MacDougal $650,000

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$115,942,869

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