Clayton Kershaw, Dodgers Far Apart Now, But Settlement Seems Likely
by Eric Stephen on Jan 17, 2012 6:42 PM PST
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The Dodgers took care of two of their three arbitration-eligible players on Tuesday, but one big fish remains. Andre Ethier and James Loney signed one-year deals, but the Dodgers were unable to work out a contract with reigning Cy Young winner Clayton Kershaw.
The pitcher and the team exchanged salary arbitration figures on Tuesday, with Kershaw seeking $10 million in 2012 while the Dodgers offered $6.5 million, per Jon Heyman of CBS Sports. The numbers represent the core of the interpretation of this case, similar to what we discussed last week.
The normal record for salary for a first-year arbitration-eligible pitcher is $4.35 million, set by Dontrelle Willis in 2006 and matched by Cole Hamels in 2009 (the first year of a three-year contract) and David Price today (the fine folks at DRaysBay have the details on their southpaw's new deal). The Dodgers have offered a salary that represents a 49.4% raise over this, so even they recognize the value of Kershaw's Cy Young award.
Kershaw, meanwhile, has submitted a number that reflects his outlier status, more in line with that of Tim Lincecum, who signed a two-year, $23 million contract in 2010 that paid the Giants' hurler a $2 million signing bonus, $8 million in 2010, and $13 million in 2011. Lincecum has his own arbitration fight this winter, as he will set a new record whether at $17 million or $21.5 million.
The number to watch in Kershaw's case is $8.25 million, the midpoint of both submitted salaries and the number both sides will argue against. If Kershaw's camp can convince the three-person arbitration panel that he is worth $8,250,001 then he will win the case; conversely Alex Tamin and the Dodger crew will fight for $8,249,999 and below (Just to be clear, if this goes to a hearing, there are only two options for the panel to decide: Kershaw will either be awarded $6.5 million or $10 million, but both sides will argue for their side of the midpoint to sway the arbitration panel).
The $8.25 million midpoint isn't too far off from my guess last week of an $8.5 million salary for Kershaw. It really wouldn't surprise me if either side won an arbitration hearing, as there are solid arguments on both sides. But I think eventually, even though both sides are pretty far apart now, Kershaw and the Dodgers will eventually settle. There is too much to lose on each side to risk going to a hearing.
Besides, I contend that Kershaw and the Dodgers have already agreed to a contract for 2012. Kershaw has just been so busy signing copies of his new book that his left hand has been too tired to sign said contract.
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Eric, what do you think is more likely?
A long-term deal or a one year deal?
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 17, 2012 6:51 PM PST via iPhone app reply actions
I think so too
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 17, 2012 6:54 PM PST via iPhone app reply actions
wait seriously the clippers are 1-41 on the road against Utah?
is that even possible?
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Well when there’s a debate whether you or the Arizona Cardinals is the worst franchise of all time…
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by regfairfield on Jan 17, 2012 6:55 PM PST up reply actions
Well that was at least true a few years ago I haven’t bothered rethinking the question :)
So if not Arizona who is in the debate for the worst major sports franchise in America?
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by regfairfield on Jan 17, 2012 7:01 PM PST up reply actions
Can’t consider any team formed in the last couple decades. Memphis Grizzlies and a bunch of failed NHL teams are in the hunt then.
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by regfairfield on Jan 17, 2012 7:05 PM PST up reply actions
yeah I just figured I would get it out of the way
but I agree completely.
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St. Louis Blues maybe
three straight Cups appearances in their early years but nothing since. I don’t know about winning % though. Atlanta Hawks have been mediocre forever and last went to the finals in St. Louis.
But for sustained ineptitude it has to be the Cubs. No need to explain.
"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."
That’s a damn good choice. Really any team from Cleveland is.
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by regfairfield on Jan 17, 2012 7:03 PM PST up reply actions
browns have like a .3 winning percentage in the playoffs
bengals too
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Might be fair to call any team from Ohio miserable failures but the Reds?
Hell even a friend of mine in his mid 20s that’s a Reds fan says Barry Larkin is the only good thing that’s happened in his life.
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by regfairfield on Jan 17, 2012 7:11 PM PST up reply actions
ouch
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_playoff_results#All-time_playoff_records_.28NFL.2FAFL.29
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you know what, super bowl appereance be damned
the Cardinals are still historically the worse franchise in the NFL.
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Clippers' rough spots on the road the last 20 or so years
at Utah: 15 straight, 1-41 in last 42
at San Antonio: 17 straight, 1-26 in last 27, 3-40 in last 43
by Eric Stephen on Jan 17, 2012 7:01 PM PST up reply actions
really
like getting on that plane must suck
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 17, 2012 7:04 PM PST up reply actions
Especially in the middle game of a back-to-back-to-back.
Home against NJ, trip to Losstown, home against Dallas
by Eric Stephen on Jan 17, 2012 7:05 PM PST up reply actions
three year or two year deal
Do you think Kershaw would go for a two or three year deal-two year deal for 15million (7.5 each year) or three year at 24-25 million.
No. Kershaw stands to make that much unless his career ends on the first pitch of the season this year.
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by regfairfield on Jan 17, 2012 7:06 PM PST up reply actions
that’s a greek chorus of NO right there
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 17, 2012 7:07 PM PST up reply actions
Hell wasn’t Mark Prior getting guaranteed deals until last year?
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by regfairfield on Jan 17, 2012 7:08 PM PST up reply actions
At a very rough estimate, assume a 50% raise in his next two years, per arbitration. So even if Dodgers win at $6.5 million you are looking at:
$6.5m
$9.75m
$14.63m
That’s 3 years, $30.88 million, and much more like a floor than anything else.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 17, 2012 7:08 PM PST up reply actions
Ok so I lowballed it
Would 3 years at 39million-13million be enough?
Yeah mid 30s is a good start.
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by regfairfield on Jan 17, 2012 7:11 PM PST up reply actions
Something like that would work, I just don’t see it happening until next year.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 17, 2012 7:11 PM PST up reply actions
I realize the amount of the monetary commitment is different
but if – if – it makes sense for the Nats to give Gio Gonzalez a five-year commitment that buys out three arb years and two FA years, doesn’t it make sense for the Dodgers to do the same for Kid K? (Ownership issues notwithstanding.) And how many dollars would that take? Double what Gio got, or $84M?
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Yeah, something like that.
Maybe 7/11/17 and add 20 for each of the free agent years, so 5/$75 or something like that.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 17, 2012 7:17 PM PST up reply actions
I’d say average 12 for the arb years, 20 a piece for FA so 5/76.
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by regfairfield on Jan 17, 2012 7:17 PM PST up reply actions
Ownership is the issue
I think Eric’s point is correct and we have to wait until next year. Given that Kershaw has so many years left of arbitration he wants to maximize and if the Dodgers want to do something they are going to have to pay and really can’t do that until next year. Hence my idea at 3 years.
I agree with you that from a cost-certainty standpoint, signing Kershaw for 3 years can work without affecting ownership at all, in fact possibly saving the next owner by locking Kershaw in for years he was going to be here anyway.
But from a “I want to lock Kershaw up” standpoint, I would hate a 3-year deal.
If I had to choose between a 3-year deal now or a 5-or 6-year deal next offseason, I’d rather wait.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 17, 2012 7:21 PM PST up reply actions
Maybe they can "handshake" on something
and then when the owner comes in pass it by them for approval
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Getting this shit on the road early!
Per Rosenthal, the Astros have reached agreement with Jack Cust on a 2-year deal. Hello, 2013 DH!!
Well, now that you're here
Check out this creepy picture of a child porn dude mug shot, via Deadspin.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 17, 2012 7:45 PM PST up reply actions
Stand down
The second year is apparently a club option, says Astros’ beat reporter Zachary Levine.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 17, 2012 8:02 PM PST up reply actions
He’s been good more recently than Ryan Ludwick so rock on.
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by regfairfield on Jan 17, 2012 8:06 PM PST up reply actions
Great
I was in Hollywood two weeks ago and NOW I learn of Jitlada!! I went to some decent place just north of there on Hollywood Blvd., (52-5300 block). Argh. Next time. The spicier the better.
"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."
Have never been there
But checking it out online, I am getting hungry. Chef Tui’s Dynamite SPICY Challenge looks like the thing I would try first (claimed to be the hottest on the menu):
by Eric Stephen on Jan 17, 2012 8:35 PM PST up reply actions
I will
Take you there but one shouldn’t drive all the way back to Hesperia after a meal there.
by bhsportsguy on Jan 17, 2012 8:36 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
5233 West Sunset Boulevard
Between Western and Normandie.
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by David Young on Jan 18, 2012 11:42 AM PST up reply actions
5233 W Sunset Blvd. Los Angeles, CA 90027
by Eric Stephen on Jan 18, 2012 11:42 AM PST up reply actions
Evidently
there is some video of an Alabama fan tea bagging a passed out LSU fan on Bourbon street
this + toomers corner tree killing – too great stories in one year for this historic institution
One of my rules to live by
Never pass out in public.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 17, 2012 8:04 PM PST up reply actions
and ass raped on camera
never forget that people in the valley get ass raped
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 17, 2012 8:12 PM PST up reply actions
Not since you moved out. ;-)
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by David Young on Jan 17, 2012 8:13 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I also make it a habit to avoid being teabagged in public
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So you only like it in private?
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Belinda Carlisle said that
and Mike Marshall dated her anyway.
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glad you brought that up
I watched the video, and there’s this passed out LSU fan and Bama fans are stacking trash on him and he’s not moving. He’s clearly the only LSU fan in the area. He moves a little bit, and everyone backs off, but he’s clearly gone. And about two minutes in, yeah a Bama fan pulls out his balls, climbs on top him, and places them on the young LSU fan’s face.
Now there’s a rumour out there that the LSU fan died, but he’s not dead. It’s one of those things that without youtube would be a giant urban myth, but lo and behold, there is video.
Another actual fact about the case, is that a local TV station aired the video on their newscast, and one of the boys in the video is the son of the Sports reporter.
by Josie Becker on Jan 17, 2012 8:06 PM PST up reply actions
Drunk college student sticks balls in another guys mouth (no homo…seriously bro) sun rises in east.
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by regfairfield on Jan 17, 2012 8:09 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
usually, the video of your ballsack doesn’t get put on deadspin
by Josie Becker on Jan 17, 2012 8:10 PM PST up reply actions
Only expose your scrotum inside the frat house I can’t stress this enough.
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by regfairfield on Jan 17, 2012 8:12 PM PST up reply actions
we took photos of our scrotum on one guys pillow, and tooth brush and ass on the car seat and steering wheel and all sorts of awful, awful, things
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 17, 2012 8:13 PM PST up reply actions
At no point in my life have I wanted to put my dick on my friends or any of their possessions and somehow I am the minority here.
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by regfairfield on Jan 17, 2012 8:14 PM PST up reply actions
I am not proud of it, but you gotta own up to these things
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 17, 2012 8:15 PM PST up reply actions
It’s the last stage of that rite of passage?
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Not criticizing at all it’s just weird to me that I was always the one that had to say “dude, are you really gaining anything by putting your wang on Jon’s forehead?” I feel like I missed out on something.
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by regfairfield on Jan 17, 2012 8:17 PM PST up reply actions
it is fair to criticize
it was very funny at the time, you did miss that
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 17, 2012 8:18 PM PST up reply actions
The only urge I’ve ever had in this general area is to swab my penis across a deli platter so I could feel like one of my Dodger heroes.
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No good can come of the combination of one’s exposed genitalia and video.
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it’s only cool to do it to your friends, right?
I know a guy who passed out in Europe back in the days of film cameras. His buddies all took roman soldier photos of him. He never knew about it and they never told him.
Lo and behold, 6 weeks later he returns to the states and gives his mom all the rolls of film to develop at the local drug store. Embarrassment for all
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 17, 2012 8:11 PM PST up reply actions
Actually, I’d prefer to drop my balls in a strangers mouth, over a friends, if I were to do such a thing.
I am over ball hazing
but when I did think that funny
Always a friend, which is really just a cruel joke
A stranger? That is sexual assualt
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 17, 2012 8:15 PM PST up reply actions
This site isn’t going to make it through my porn filter much longer is it. It was nice knowing y’all.
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by nolander on Jan 17, 2012 9:08 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
I thought tossing watermelon seeds on my passed out brother was over the top but this stuff is just crazy bad taste and ass kicking worthy.
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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 18, 2012 11:42 AM PST up reply actions
UFC talk
Craziness with Mark Munoz getting hurt and Chael Sonnen and Michael Bisping all of a sudden in a Number One Contender Match on January 28. And Maia gets Weidman.
I really, really wanted to see if Munoz could beat Sonnen; I think Bisping has no chance outside out a freak occurrence. Maia vs. Weidman will be REALLY interesting.
My one regret is that this fight didn’t have enough hype time for Chael to reduce Bisping to tears.
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by regfairfield on Jan 17, 2012 9:39 PM PST up reply actions
yeah
I think Sonnen is gonna kill him
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 17, 2012 10:02 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Floyd Mayweather back on Twitter again today I see… 3 hours ago he said….16th was Dr. Martin Luther King Birthday January 17th is Muhammad Ali Birthday and May 5th is Pacquiao ass whooping day
what an intelligent and respectable guy
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Since SBN spent all their money on Ashton Kutcher they can’t afford pointless activism.
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by regfairfield on Jan 17, 2012 9:38 PM PST up reply actions
but its been down for like an hour and you already know
ok I’ll see myself to the door.
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I fucking love Clayton Kershaw
advisory: it’s about his book, and his book is about religion, so I think comments about the article should be avoided here, but it’s a good read.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;ylt=AsQw9i3HeVfcNZ0Siu8c2e85nYcB?slug=ti-brownkershaw_religion_book_011712
But they look cute… She looks like a Clayton Kershaw wife.
by uschris0304 on Jan 17, 2012 10:05 PM PST up reply actions
she's sooo cute
wouldn’t most women look tiny next to him anyways? ;-)
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Short yes, tiny, not necessarily.
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by David Young on Jan 18, 2012 11:44 AM PST up reply actions
anyone see the Top 10 pitchers right now show?
- was Grienke and #9 was CC. Gonna guess Verlander gets #1
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 17, 2012 10:13 PM PST via iPhone app reply actions
# 8
Dan Haren
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# 7
Lincecum
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# 6
Jered Weaver
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# 5
Kershaw
Should be higher
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 17, 2012 10:31 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
who is 4 then?
I get lee halladay and verlander, but who the hell is 4?
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or is it only SP?
maybe they’ll give mo rivera a bullshit spot.
by court168627 on Jan 17, 2012 10:33 PM PST up reply actions
you can't say its for right now
and drop the cy young winner to 5. Thats foney balloney
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so top 4 have to be (in no order) halladay, verlander, lee, and…?
by court168627 on Jan 17, 2012 10:32 PM PST up reply actions
a ha.
yes. not too much of a travesty IMO.
by court168627 on Jan 17, 2012 10:34 PM PST up reply actions
# 4
Felix Hernandez
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# 3
Cliff Lee
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 17, 2012 10:40 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
halladay over verlander i'm guessing with the way this has shaked out
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as it should be.
looking over halladay’s numbers again, the guy is unbelievable. it really can’t be overstated how good he is.
by court168627 on Jan 17, 2012 10:43 PM PST up reply actions
Sheehan
Has Kershaw as his # 2, just below Doc. Leiter has him # 3
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 17, 2012 10:50 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
# 2
Verlander
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 17, 2012 10:51 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
# 1
Roy Halladay
No shock
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 17, 2012 10:55 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
i generally think haren is an underrated pitcher, but i would still take cc over him.
by court168627 on Jan 17, 2012 10:19 PM PST up reply actions
i would actually take cc over weaver too.
the guy has put together six consectuive great seasons now. a few more years and he might be close to HOF caliber.
by court168627 on Jan 17, 2012 10:29 PM PST up reply actions
they are incredibly close over the last three years using rWar
at least I think baseball reference pitcher war is rWar
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It’s “right now”
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 17, 2012 10:25 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Brian Kenny hosting
Al Leiter and Joel Sheenan there to, so there are some advanced stats thrown in. They’ve mentioned XFIP
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 17, 2012 10:27 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Would not be surprised. Kershaw better be in the top 3.
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 17, 2012 10:29 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
My Top Ten
1. Kershaw (young, lefty, most importantly a Dodger)
2. Verlander
3. Halladay
4. Felix
5. Lee
6. Lincecum
7. CC
8. Weaver
9. Haren
10. Granick
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I originally titled it “My Biased Top Ten” then opted to delete “baised” due to my propensity to be “biased”-
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After last year you can’t deny Verlander or his 100mph fastball for the top spot. With that being said, I would still bet on Kershaw for the long term. I’m not only biased but also very stubborn ;)
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1. Halladay
2. Verlander
3. Kershaw
4. Lee
5. Felix
6. CC
7. Lincecum
8. Weaver
9. Lester
10. Greinke
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lester is what we wish Billingsley were. A guy who walks too many but whose strikeouts make it okay, mid-3 ERA.
I've been a huge fan of Lester since his second year in the league
You’re absolutely right about that too.
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Kershaw, Billingsley, Lilly, Capuano, Harang, Eovaldi, Rubby, Kuroda (he used to be better, but you know…), Eveland, Verlander.
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Capang then Harang or the other way around?
Harang>Cap IMO
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I project Harang as our #4 starter, partly to keep the L-R-L-R-L thing but partly cuz of what you say.
I really like the LRLRL idea….it’s always been my MO in video games….same thing when balancing a lineup.
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But looking at the rotation one day later, it becomes RLRLL
by Eric Stephen on Jan 18, 2012 9:05 AM PST up reply actions
Right
The rotation is circular, so there are always going to be two lefties in a row somewhere. But I’d just as soon not have the two softer throwing lefties be those two.
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by David Young on Jan 18, 2012 11:50 AM PST up reply actions
LOL
just needs to stop getting hit so hard.
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I fully believe Capuano will be better than Harang.
Of course you can put any other name but Capuano in that sentence and it will be true.
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by regfairfield on Jan 18, 2012 9:28 AM PST up reply actions
ha ha
Hey, the Padres have a complete new rotation in 2012 from 2010
Garland, Correja, LeBlanc, Latos, and Richard per BRef’s top five starters
How often does that happen?
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Could be right but Peavy was there for a long time. That said the Padres may go through starting pitchers faster then anyone over the last decade.
I can only think of Peavy and Chris Young as something of mainstays.
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Ditto
I still believe a lefty can after a bit master third base
by DodgerofTrolleys on Jan 18, 2012 9:37 AM PST up reply actions
Probably more often than you’d think on bad teams.
Just going through the Royals they did it 2005-2007.
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by regfairfield on Jan 18, 2012 9:37 AM PST up reply actions
Longterm
I’d say
1.Kershaw
2.Verlander
3.Strasburg
4.Felix
5.Halladay
6.Weaver
7.Sabathia
8.Lee
9.Carpenter
10.Lincecum
I still believe a lefty can after a bit master third base
by DodgerofTrolleys on Jan 18, 2012 9:01 AM PST up reply actions
What do people think about this
I kind want criticism of my opinions right now.
I still believe a lefty can after a bit master third base
by DodgerofTrolleys on Jan 18, 2012 9:40 AM PST up reply actions
Lee seems low. Stras seems high. No huge issues though.
by Michael White on Jan 18, 2012 9:42 AM PST up reply actions
Ok, Veruca Salt
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRTkCHE1sS4 ;)
Seems like a good long term list, although Lee and Sabathia may drop off due to age within a few years no?
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Yep.
I still believe a lefty can after a bit master third base
by DodgerofTrolleys on Jan 18, 2012 9:43 AM PST up reply actions
I’d say long term Verlander will fall fast. Great Tiger pitchers don’t have any staying power:)
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Well yes
I didn’t quite manage the long-term aspect as well as I’d have liked.
I still believe a lefty can after a bit master third base
by DodgerofTrolleys on Jan 18, 2012 9:46 AM PST up reply actions
Going long term I have no problem with Kershaw being number 1
I’d have Lee behind Halladay, and move Strasburg down behind them (for now). I’d move Lincecum behind Strasburg.
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One good season this year and I'd definitely add him
I just think most of these guys are going to still be great 3 years from now, with the exception of maybe Carpenter. If Moore has a good rookie season, he could move to the middle of that list for sure.
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Darvish deadline is today right?
I hope he goes back to Japan and we sign him next year. Please please please.
by Venergy on Jan 18, 2012 6:35 AM PST via mobile reply actions
hahaha
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the announcement that the Rangers bid was
The top one was made on December 19th so today is the 30 day cutoff to announce a signed agreement.
by bhsportsguy on Jan 18, 2012 7:38 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Rangers have 30 days from whenever the day they won the bid. I don’t remember when the bid was announced but they have much longer than today.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 18, 2012 7:28 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
must’ve been all that watch talk. :)
by Xeifrank on Jan 18, 2012 8:21 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Does Carpenter deserve recognition over Weaver, Haren & Granick (Greinke)? I keep thinking that age will catch up to him, but the guy keeps grinding…also isn’t Latos going to get some props if he continues his incline?
"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"
"Incline"
is not how I would describe Latos’s trajectory from 2010 to last year.
Unless you're talking about...
ERA, WHIP, FIP, BB/9….Those things all inclined.
Carpenter is a bonafide postseason hero. Hard to take that away from him. Shutting out Philly last year was semi-legendary.
I think Johnson is sick, but I also think he has to bounce back. Much in the way of Beckett.
"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"
Becket simply sucked in 2010, so he had to bounceback from sucking.
Josh Johnson was just about the best pitcher in 2011 until he got hurt. He simply has to be healthy.
Both of them can kiss Kid Kershaw’s ass.
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I'd definitely put Johnson on there
If he could stay healthy. But going off pure talent i’d actually have him top 5.
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Yes,
I still believe a lefty can after a bit master third base
by DodgerofTrolleys on Jan 18, 2012 9:33 AM PST up reply actions
Let me make sure I am correct here
(
Just to be clear, if this goes to a hearing, there are only two options for the panel to decide: Kershaw will either be awarded $6.5 million or $10 million, but both sides will argue for their side of the midpoint to sway the arbitration panel).
This means that if it goes to the 3 man panel he will get 10 million or 6.5? My boss is saying (which I thought he was wrong from the beginning) that he could end up with a higher amount than 10. I’d love to own him in our next conversation wtih some supported information :)
that it correct
If it goes to the hearing, Clayton will get one or the other.
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 18, 2012 6:54 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Yes. If it goes to arb, he gets 6.5 or 10. Nothing in between. If they settle, he gets something in between. Either way, the chance that he makes more than 10 mil next season is 0%.
but remember
when owning your boss, he’s still your boss. own him gently.
You: “No, you’re wrong about Clayton Kershaw’s arbitration hearing. if it goes to a hearing, he will be awarded one sum or the other per the MLB Collective Bargaining Agreement”
Boss: “You got bullied into that conversation, Danny, by everyone. By Dawson. By Galloway. Shit, I practically dared you. You got bullied into that courtroom by the memory of a dead lawyer.”
You: “You’re a lousy fucking softball player, Jack!”
I’m not sure what made you think of that movie, but well done
by Michael White on Jan 18, 2012 8:16 AM PST up reply actions
haha
he’s a CPA so he’s probably thinking of other arbitration type cases in other aspects of the real world..does anybody havea link to show how it specifically states either or contract amount?
by Dodgerblue8188 on Jan 18, 2012 9:28 AM PST up reply actions
Just google major league baseball arbitration. You’ll find a ton.
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by David Young on Jan 18, 2012 11:54 AM PST up reply actions
eight more hours to find out if I was dead right about Yu or dead wrong
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Cue Europe
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 18, 2012 8:09 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Hell would freeze before a noted Japanese pitcher would sign up to pitch in the hell hole called Fort Worth, Texas.
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Everyone has a price. I’m sure Texas has a lot to do with it, but everyone can be bought to do whatever it is you need them to do. Considering even at $13mil a year, he made 500million yen last year in Japan. That’s roughly a 200% increase. Fucking pitch suckah
Why should he? He can simply do it all over again and maybe this time he will get the team he wants to pitch for.
Do you really think money is an issue? Whatever his salary is, he’s making more then that in endorsements. Jordan did not build an empire based on his salary.
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FWIW Darvish won’t be a free agent until after 2013, so if he doesn’t sign with Texas he would have to go through the posting system again next year.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 18, 2012 9:32 AM PST up reply actions
For a guy who is so “great” it is astonishing how many power forwards seem to have “great” games against Blake.
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Only dunk that would beat it is the Emancipation Dunklamation
by Eric Stephen on Jan 18, 2012 8:24 AM PST up reply actions
i don’t know if he’s great as much as overly athletic. Much like LeBron when he first came into the league, Blake’s athleticism is otherworldly but he seems to still be learning how to play the game and how to control that athleticism within a team strategy.
You know, if they had a team strategy.
Oh, they had a strategy yesterday. It was right out of the Joe Torre playbook.
The strategy was, fuck it, try to win, but don’t try to hard. It was the house money’est basketball game I’ve ever seen from the Clips.
by Michael White on Jan 18, 2012 8:18 AM PST up reply actions
did VDN take his starters and staff into the locker room with 12 seconds left and leave his subs out on the floor for the impending court rush?
Close to it
Nobody played more than I think 29 minutes. Resty resterson after awhile.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 18, 2012 8:21 AM PST up reply actions
VDN
Sounded pissed afterwards
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 18, 2012 8:20 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
At one point in the second quarter (when the game was still theoretically winnable) the five on the floor were: Evans, Thompkins, Gomes, Leslie and Courtney Fotson. For those keeping score, that’s two rookie second round picks, a guy from the D- League, a rebounding specialist and Ryan Gomes. Shockingly, that didn’t go well.
by Michael White on Jan 18, 2012 8:22 AM PST up reply actions
Neither did the original starting five
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The starting 5 were missing long jumpers (which you’d prefer they didn’t take so many of) but that could have turned around. A few of these shots were just rimming out so it was a bit unlucky.
I actually don’t have a problem with the strategy I just find VDN being pissed afterwards sort of silly. It clearly was a strategy to rest his guys particularly after the beginning of the game started so poorly.
by Michael White on Jan 18, 2012 8:29 AM PST up reply actions
Maybe we watched two different games. The game was still in question at 1/2 time even with that group of yours playing in the 2nd quarter. It was how the “starters” started the 3rd quarter that put the game into the crapper.
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I’m not blaming the bench at all. Just pointing out Vinny’s motives. In a tight game (Miami and LAL in particular,) Vinny has shortened his bench and rode his starters. Travis Leslie had only played in garbage time before last night. I just think VDN came in with a game plan where he’d have a quick hook if it didn’t look like the game wasn’t going his way and he’d rest his starters. It was a house money game.
Don’t get me wrong, the starters absolutely mailed it in too.
by Michael White on Jan 18, 2012 8:36 AM PST up reply actions
“The Lakers will finish 34-32”
Signed Bill Simmons, fan of the 4-8 Celtics.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 18, 2012 8:25 AM PST up reply actions
I don’t think to many Clipper fans disagree with the notion that to get to the highest level VDN is not the guy to get them there.
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I think the Clippers should hire Kris Humphries as a player/coach.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 18, 2012 8:47 AM PST up reply actions
He’d be an excellent addition to the current team.
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If it’s any consolation, the Lakers had the same pattern of effort in their season-opening 3 games in 3 days.
Good effort but a little sloppy in Game 1 (Chicago)
Mailed in the road game in Game 2, embarrassing loss (at Sacramento)
Absolute pasting of a good team at home in Game 3 (Utah)
So congrats to the Clips tonight for their 7th straight home win :)
by Eric Stephen on Jan 18, 2012 8:53 AM PST up reply actions
I expected them to get trounced last night so no big deal. Dallas has been hanging around since Sunday Night, they should be well rested, we are not going to win tonight unless somehow Paul and Mo are both playing. 36 year old point guards are not going to have much in the tank on the final leg of the back to back to back.
That is why I really wanted the win on Monday.
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Dallas has only had one day of rest (they played Monday), and I’m guessing they will score more than the 70 they put up against the Lakers. But I still think the Clips can beat them, especially at home.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 18, 2012 8:58 AM PST up reply actions
Mo is out. He says he’s targeting this weekend. Even so, I think the Clippers can/should win tonight.
by Michael White on Jan 18, 2012 9:01 AM PST up reply actions
Oh he’s great and athletic. Better handles then any power forward ever who could also jump out of the building. Still more like Nique at this point and not sure he’ll ever be a defensive factor. He does have unique skills more then just his freakish jumping ability.
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Perfect time for a Kershaw Masterpiece.
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If Kershaw pitches every five days, he will be scheduled to pitch on May 20.
If, however, he pitches every five games (aside from skipping Harang or Capuano so Kershaw can pitch the home opener on April 10) Kershaw will be scheduled to pitch on May 19. If they don’t have Kershaw pitch the home opener, he would be scheduled to pitch on May 20.
But, as always, projecting out the starting rotation more than a few days in advance is a fool’s errand, so take with an enormous grain of salt.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 18, 2012 8:42 AM PST up reply actions
when we drafted our season tickets last year (full season split up, I got 20 tickets (8 games of 2, 1 game of 4 tickets)) I planned out Kershaw and Billingsley starts, and I think it worked out that I saw Kershaw 6 of the 9 games, billingsley twice and one kuroda.
I was banking on two things: their durability, and Mattingly’s “take the ball every 5th game” mentality. I don’t think he’s skipped the 5th starter very often, opting instead to give the rotation the extra day of rest.
Yeah, the only time he skipped the fifth starter last year was in the first week when Jon Garland was out and the Dodgers had an off day. John Ely only got one start, a dreadful one in San Diego that Delias Man, Mike White, and I were all in attendance for.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 18, 2012 8:48 AM PST up reply actions
That’s OK, because I also got to see the Dodgers win two games in about three hours with Broxton collecting two saves and Tony Gwynn Jr. beasting out in the shadow of his dad’s statue.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 18, 2012 8:51 AM PST up reply actions
Oh yeah, that place (I already forgot the name) was really good.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 18, 2012 9:02 AM PST up reply actions
Indeed. I think we’ll need to head over there after opening day.
by Michael White on Jan 18, 2012 9:02 AM PST up reply actions
I’m working out my schedule so I can be in San Diego for that whole weekend. I’ll keep you posted.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 18, 2012 9:03 AM PST up reply actions
Every time is perfect for a Kershaw Masterpiece.
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by DodgerofTrolleys on Jan 18, 2012 9:20 AM PST up reply actions
I think you have it wrong? Very sweet and very effective sounds better.
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by DodgerofTrolleys on Jan 18, 2012 9:39 AM PST up reply actions
It's too fast
I mean, like 90 mph? Yikes.
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by DodgerofTrolleys on Jan 18, 2012 9:45 AM PST up reply actions
That's pretty close to the 4 year anniversary of Kershaw's debut
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I have so much less incentive to watch the Cardinals play
Now that Jim Edmonds has been gone a few years and Pujols is gone too.
I know they will be very good still this year, but without Pujols, I wonder just how good.
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contend for the division, possible-favorite good.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 18, 2012 9:42 AM PST up reply actions
Beltran is a good stop gap for pujols
and they have young guys who could be very good like freese and craig iirc. Plus they get wainright back. Seems like they could easily be better this year then last year.
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Easily?
All that you said may if they are lucky get them back to the same level, being better, no way.
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I think Beltran and Wainwright can make up for the absence of Pujols.
for one year at least. It could easily go completely wrong with them relying on beltran and berkman, but if they stay healthy and produce…
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keep in mind pujols didn't have that great a season last year
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Cardinals might win the central, they will not win more then 95 games. They will struggle to win 93.
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93 > 90
Beltran had almost the same value last year as pujols. Wainwright figures to be a big shot in the arm. Long term they would be better off with pujols of course.
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I think the removal of Pujols will have a larger effect then the numbers show. Berkman will not repeat what he did, Beltran will need to stay healthy (huge if), everyone seems to assume 29 year old Wainwright will go right back to being one of the best pitchers in the game. They also have a LF playing in CF with no one to back him up should he prove to be illusionary.
And counting on Rafy at SS. This team has zero depth if injuries hit injury prone players like Beltran, Berkman, Rafy, Freese.
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I said could be
if they stay healthy they could easily be better. Could. I’ve acknowledged that it could go wrong, but its not like they are relying on career years from a bunch of players to get there.
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Yes, did not mean to imply one was the result of the other.
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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 18, 2012 10:07 AM PST up reply actions
Agreed
Cards, Reds, and Brewers will be in a dogfight for the division. Brewers hurt by missing Braun for 50 games, so I would knock them down a slight peg below the other two. But all near the 90-win range IMO.
If I had to pick an order right now…
Cards
Reds
Brewers
by Eric Stephen on Jan 18, 2012 9:54 AM PST up reply actions
My sim has that same order, with each team a few wins ahead of the other. Is the Braun suspension official now? Also, the loss of Fielder if he doesn’t resign is pretty big (get it? Fielder big).
I completely forgot he signed there
Yeah, they should be good for 95 wins if everything clicks.
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Yes! Favorite to win the NL Central. They have come very close (if not matched) the production lost from Pujols. Still a lot of that depends on a few older, overused or recovering players (Berkman/Furcal, Carpenter, Wainwright) so there is a rather large error bar around this statement.
high five!
they really need to find long term replacements in the next couple years though. Should have the money to do it, maybe they can sign Votto.
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Wainwright probably makes up for Pujols, Freese and Craig have their BABIPs crater/don’t get massive power out of nowhere and aren’t very good, still arguably the best team in the division.
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by regfairfield on Jan 18, 2012 9:46 AM PST up reply actions
The compensation will end up being Bobby V’s glasses/mustache disguise, autographed.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 18, 2012 8:39 AM PST up reply actions
Plus I screwed up the joke by sending compensation from Boston instead of to Boston.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 18, 2012 8:44 AM PST up reply actions
Ned will trade anything he can for whatever middle reliever it is!
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I wouldn't mind if DeWitt ended up in LA.
misses him
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by DodgerofTrolleys on Jan 18, 2012 9:04 AM PST up reply actions
To easy, one is making 8 Million one is making 1 Million.
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One has seen his OPS+ bounce from 74, 76, 112, 102, 55 while the other is never below 90 or above 95 when given a decent number of at bats.
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I am confused. Who is player B?
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by DodgerofTrolleys on Jan 18, 2012 9:12 AM PST up reply actions
You need to work on your short term comment skills. We don’t pull players out of thin air, something usually precedes the comparisons. Like the player that was being discussed.
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Such as Theo Epstein?
Sorry, haven’t been paying enough attention
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by DodgerofTrolleys on Jan 18, 2012 9:16 AM PST up reply actions
Probably.
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by DodgerofTrolleys on Jan 18, 2012 9:17 AM PST up reply actions
I dont know, Jesus cant even get to the AFC Championship game, so id say its possible he couldnt OPS+ over 100 as well.
I wouldn’t mind if DeWitt ended up in LA.
.
misses him
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There were 2 players in question.
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by DodgerofTrolleys on Jan 18, 2012 9:18 AM PST up reply actions
Oh wait, Zambrano?
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by DodgerofTrolleys on Jan 18, 2012 9:19 AM PST up reply actions
Good.
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by DodgerofTrolleys on Jan 18, 2012 9:40 AM PST up reply actions
it was obvious to me
but I was heavily involved yesterday in uribe talk, and always have had a beard-on for dewitt
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Speaking of Sunday Night Baseball
Nats are on twice in the first eight weeks. They have only been on Sunday Night Baseball twice before this season.
Stras is their Griffin. Highly touted, missed first year, will be gangbusters in 2012. Jayson Werth was Baron Davis:)
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Does that make Fielder, Chris Paul?
(if it happens)
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 18, 2012 8:55 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Is that a rumor?
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 18, 2012 8:58 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Yes I do
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 18, 2012 9:23 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Jordan Zimmerman is DeAndre Jordan
Gio Gonzalez is Chauncey Billups
by Eric Stephen on Jan 18, 2012 8:57 AM PST up reply actions
Ian Desmond is Bledsoe.
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Weirdly 3 playoff teams are not on SNB at least until June
No Detroit, no Brewers and no DBacks. Also no Giants.
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Trolly we may sidetrack into politics or religion but no blatant first comments like that.
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Sasha Gray is always in beast mode!!!!
She was on Entourage…..then the eminem video “Space Bound”
The girl has mad talent!
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Sorry
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by DodgerofTrolleys on Jan 18, 2012 9:03 AM PST reply actions
So there should be about 6 Kershaw vs Giants games this year. At least.
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by DodgerofTrolleys on Jan 18, 2012 9:05 AM PST reply actions
Don't pay attention to these, I dont think they should be here.
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by DodgerofTrolleys on Jan 18, 2012 9:07 AM PST up reply actions
Oops.
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by DodgerofTrolleys on Jan 18, 2012 9:10 AM PST up reply actions
Maybe
It doesn’t always work out that way.
Before his 6 starts against SF in 2011, Kershaw had 4 in 2010, and just one in 2009. And he was in the regular rotation for the whole year all three seasons.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 18, 2012 9:07 AM PST up reply actions
Wait I can’t see anything what did I just post there?
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by DodgerofTrolleys on Jan 18, 2012 9:09 AM PST up reply actions
"Should", sadly not "will.
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by DodgerofTrolleys on Jan 18, 2012 9:10 AM PST up reply actions
I hope most of them are against Lincecum
Those games were the best last year
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Exactly.
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by DodgerofTrolleys on Jan 18, 2012 9:57 AM PST up reply actions
Because we won those games
otherwise it’d be “man, I wish Kershaw didn’t get stuck going up against lincecum. we’d have a better chance to win if we could matchup our ace with anyone else”
?
What just happened?
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by DodgerofTrolleys on Jan 18, 2012 9:07 AM PST reply actions
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by Eric Stephen on Jan 18, 2012 9:08 AM PST up reply actions
ok
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by DodgerofTrolleys on Jan 18, 2012 9:09 AM PST up reply actions
thanks
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by DodgerofTrolleys on Jan 18, 2012 9:09 AM PST up reply actions
If you collect shit, be sure to account for it before going through with a divorce. I thought this story was humorous from Halos Heaven.
I thought the story was going to end with the lady saying, “There’s a bunch more stuff here. Come over and it’s yours.”
Haha, that would have been much better.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 18, 2012 9:18 AM PST up reply actions
Probably not getting married then is the best advice.
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No just selecting well
And behaving well.
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by DodgerofTrolleys on Jan 18, 2012 9:48 AM PST up reply actions
Or not being an Angels fan.
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When people say the divorce rate is 50%
they mean half of all marriages end in divorce, right? I wonder what percentage of people that get married end up divorced? I mean, Larry King alone skews the first number.
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by David Young on Jan 18, 2012 12:09 PM PST up reply actions
If I had something that valuable (whether it be money or just to me)
I’d keep that shit with me, especially if I knew there was a woman scorned involved.
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What a bitch Tawny Kitaen is!
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by David Young on Jan 18, 2012 12:07 PM PST up reply actions
Before someone asks once again why some Dodger fans pine for Blake DeWitt, they should consider our infield before they hit post.
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Adam Kennedy really sucked last year. Splitting time among 2b/3b/DH[?], he managed .234/.277/.355/.632. If he ends up splitting time with Mark Ellis, it could be trouble.
Ha
Now that I’ve finally figured out which Hairston we have, that dude played everywhere last year.
2B—27 games
CF—11
3B—5
LF-1
SS-1
He’s also played RF in his career. Except for 1B & C, he’s done it. Might be the Neddiest signing of the offseason.
Ned’s last signing is always his best. He overpays in the beginning then gets a nice bargain.
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so Hairston
Will win the Jamey Carroll award for beating low expectations? :)
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 18, 2012 9:30 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
I’m onboard. Might be our most versatile player since _________. (I’m thinking Jolbert Cabrera for some reason.)
Jason Romano?
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Yeah. These names confirm that “versatile” is a fancy French word for “suck-ass.”
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Put Golden Corrals out of business.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
The “9 positions in a game” trick always seems forced to me, something done out of the norm of regular baseball.
I am curious to know what is the record for most positions played in a single game by one player legitimately, i.e. not done solely to get that player time at a position. My guess would be something like four or five. But I would love to see a bunch of games with that. Might be a future blog post.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 18, 2012 9:29 AM PST up reply actions
I think Campy Campaneris was the first to do it in 65 that anyone made a big deal out of. Heck of a pitcher
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I will be waiting for one of the TBLA mods to pull the trick of playing all 11 positions in one game during the softball tournament.
11 positions? What kind of softball do you play?
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haha @ nolander’s response below, but I was thinking for you that bench would be one of the positions. :)
Given how many players we have, bench will probably be my main position.
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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 18, 2012 10:02 AM PST up reply actions
14 at last count.
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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 18, 2012 10:08 AM PST up reply actions
It is probably good to have extras, because someone will inevitably not be able to play due to injury, scheduling conflict or over eating/drinking between games. But if you have 14 for any one game then it does get a little crowded unless you have people that don’t mind DHing or just playing a few innings in the field. Perfect number is around 11 or 12, but given this type of format 14 could be perfect. Hopefully, ever team has an experienced slow-pitch softball pitcher. It is a lot harder than it looks and sucks to walk 6 or 7 batters an inning.
Do we (DT) have an experienced pitcher? I’ve played middle IF/OF my entire softball “career”.
I do not mind sitting out innings, especially after running the bases. The BLD fields have fast outfields and deep fences.
Not sure. Which team is robotmadeofnails on. He is the only one I know who pitches. Hopefully the organizer placed a pitcher on each team.
Neither, he could not make it.
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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 18, 2012 10:30 AM PST up reply actions
Thanks, I was our coach from 1985 – 2005 so I kind of know how it works.
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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 18, 2012 10:29 AM PST up reply actions
Where and when is this soiree again?
I may try to play the fan position
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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
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West Covina Big League Dreams
There’s a bar in the Stadium Club, which overlooks the fields, so please come by.
Usually, there’s an entrance fee, so check and see if it applies that day.
Also, I wonder if the $35 entry fee covers the facility entrance fee as well?
Yes, at least in past tournaments at Big League Dreams it did.
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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 18, 2012 11:32 AM PST up reply actions
Did you guys see the game where
they move Jose Bautista over from third base to shallow right field and he subsequently caught two pop up right to him?
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by DodgerofTrolleys on Jan 18, 2012 9:35 AM PST up reply actions
Bautista plays RF a fair amount
I got to listen to a guy call him Juan Rivera for 2 hours on opening night in Anaheim.
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I will state boldly for the record that if Juan Rivera says “fuck it” and starts pulling every ball into the left field stands and has a Bautistan 50+ home run season, the Dodgers will be strong contenders in the NL West.
Bold.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 18, 2012 9:41 AM PST up reply actions
I'm guessing it would have to be a team battling injuries
with an injury or two in the current game, and possibly a blowout.
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have you seen don and his double switch fetish?
its gonna happen.
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I may have felt that way until I realized how fast he was.
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by DodgerofTrolleys on Jan 18, 2012 9:22 AM PST up reply actions
yeah with a crappy glove, couldnt turn a DP for shit, thats the DeWitt I remember… but I dont have that good a memory.
He hit a lot of triples and once an inside-the-parker.
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by DodgerofTrolleys on Jan 18, 2012 9:24 AM PST up reply actions
just curious – have you watched Dodger baseball?
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Occasionally,
Though I don’t have a TV so I watch the highlights afterwards.
I still believe a lefty can after a bit master third base
by DodgerofTrolleys on Jan 18, 2012 9:30 AM PST up reply actions
Apart from sports, A) It’s kinda expensive, and b) It’s a waste of time when you aren’t watching sports.
I still believe a lefty can after a bit master third base
by DodgerofTrolleys on Jan 18, 2012 9:33 AM PST up reply actions
I may have been wrong at the time.
I still believe a lefty can after a bit master third base
by DodgerofTrolleys on Jan 18, 2012 9:31 AM PST up reply actions
But I still thought he had some speed.
I still believe a lefty can after a bit master third base
by DodgerofTrolleys on Jan 18, 2012 9:32 AM PST up reply actions
I'd rather pine for Ian Kinsler or Brandon Phillips
than a below average hitting and around average fielding 2B.
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“The Hot Mom Nip Slip”. Thick crust, pepperoni.
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by David Young on Jan 18, 2012 12:15 PM PST up reply actions
Hey Mike
I’ve been meaning to ask you this since yesterday, but on the ESPN NBA Today podcast yesterday, Ric Bucher said if Minnesota gave a max contract to Kevin Love it would “be the death knell of the franchise.” Bucher does not think highly of Love’s game, but then again Bucher called LeBron “more of a glue guy” last year.
Oh, I guess the question is, “what do you think of Ric Bucher?”
by Eric Stephen on Jan 18, 2012 9:36 AM PST up reply actions
{horse whinny sound}
Oh wait, that’s for Frau Blucher.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
He’s absolutely wrong about Kevin Love and Lebron. Otherwise I don’t follow him on Twitter or anything so I don’t have much of an opinion.
by Michael White on Jan 18, 2012 9:41 AM PST up reply actions
Ya, I’d say that’s a no-brainer (for Laker fans)
by Michael White on Jan 18, 2012 9:43 AM PST up reply actions
Not sure what is wrong with the Clipper PA Announcer but he made a few flubs on Monday which reminded me of opening night.
Coming into the season Mo Williams was expected to be the starting point guard for the Clips and was making a big deal about how happy he was and how he was going to help take this team to the next level. Then they got Billups in the Amnesty deal and he was a little upset. Then they got Paul and he was like WTF. So they calmed him down, telling how valuable he was going to be coming off the bench. He was still not thrilled.
So on opening night they do the player introductions, and when it was time for Mo Williams the announcer called him Chauncy Billups. It was so awkward because he’d already announced Billups long before.
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I knew about the home opener, that was funny. What happened on Monday?
by Eric Stephen on Jan 18, 2012 9:46 AM PST up reply actions
Streaming video
Does it kill battery life faster on your iPhone/iPod? Because I could probably waste hours at my desk now that there’s a WiFi connection here.
Yes.
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by regfairfield on Jan 18, 2012 9:53 AM PST up reply actions
yes
video will kill your phone faster then anything else
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Chuckling too much to rec the comment!
by Eric Stephen on Jan 18, 2012 10:14 AM PST up reply actions
I like to watch Mickey and Donald Duck cartoons when I can’t sleep
by Josie Becker on Jan 18, 2012 10:02 AM PST up reply actions
I was watching some wrestling at work. haha
by silverwidow on Jan 18, 2012 10:05 AM PST up reply actions
Older stuff or this weeks Raw?
I want people to talk wrestling with but rarely do :)
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Older stuff
but I did catch a little of Jericho’s act on Monday. Funny gimmick.
by silverwidow on Jan 18, 2012 10:23 AM PST up reply actions
I'm enjoying what he's doing
essentially trolling the fans, it’s great, lol. I love watching old youtube stuff from the attitude era, that stuff is awesome.
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When I worked at the iphone fixing place
Occassionally i’d keep a phone at my work space and use it to watch youtube or netflix while i was working (more listen to it than anything). It really helps the day go by much faster.
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I appreciated it
any No Country for Old men reference is welcome.
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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
those display video
so they count! Plus I don’t consider phones and itouch thingies to be valid gaming machines /snob
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oh they aren’t, I truly don’t understand why EA Sports is making iPhone compatible games for a device that should be used for nothing over 8 bit game boy style games
by Josie Becker on Jan 18, 2012 10:05 AM PST up reply actions
because stupid people like playing stupid games on their phone
a) people don’t care about depth in their games anymore
b)Developers have also decided they are willing to put in a ton of work and then sell that product for far far less then ever before.
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I guess, I’ve just found that arcade style games like Jetpack or Where’s my Water are the kinds of games I want on my phone to kill time waiting for the bus, whereas playing Tiger Woods just felt odd
by Josie Becker on Jan 18, 2012 10:13 AM PST up reply actions
it’s a Disney game where you have to get the water into the pipe so an alligator can take a bath, but there are all these obstacles in the way.
by Josie Becker on Jan 18, 2012 10:16 AM PST up reply actions
I would think golf could work pretty well
considering the number of golf arcade games that use a track ball.
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sure, simple arcade golf absolutely. Tiger Woods career mode, multiple course thing was too much for killing time
by Josie Becker on Jan 18, 2012 10:17 AM PST up reply actions
Absolutely
I’ve killed 15-20% of my battery in an hour and a half just watching netflix. That’s with a somewhat new battery.
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showtime choosing the marlins for The Franchise
makes too much sense
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Hell you forgot Morrison who might be the biggest tool on the team. I might even watch that and I don’t watch that shit.
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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 18, 2012 10:00 AM PST up reply actions
This guy too (from ESPN)
Reliever Juan Carlos Oviedo avoided arbitration with the Miami Marlins by agreeing to a $6 million, one-year contract, but his visa status remains uncertain because he played under the assumed name of Leo Nunez until late last season.
Joe McDonald looks much worse after losing all his weight. Does anyone know if he’s terminal, because he appears to have big time health problems.
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he was at the Clipper game Monday. Could barely move. It looked like he had lost all the weight in his upper body but was having a very hard time moving his legs. Then in the 2nd half he just put his head down and went to sleep. My seats are two rows from where the media sits, he did not look good.
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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 18, 2012 10:10 AM PST up reply actions
maybe he just found out his ice queen ex wife had just sold his precious memorabilia for nothing.
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He is a LA radio sports talk icon I guess… but never could keep a radio job long it seemed, for whatever reason. You never hear of him much anymore though.
by uschris0304 on Jan 18, 2012 10:21 AM PST up reply actions
Though I didnt like how big on WWF/E wrestling he was, shit is fake bro.
by uschris0304 on Jan 18, 2012 10:22 AM PST up reply actions
Does anyone really watching wrestling with the belief that it’s real? The “it’s fake” thing is pretty dumb because everyone knows what it is: entertainment.
by silverwidow on Jan 18, 2012 10:32 AM PST up reply actions
I agree with you. I stopped being a big wrestling fan when I was 18 or so, but before that I would get those condescending questions, “You know it’s fake right?” all the time. Ya, no shit it’s fake. So is every movie and television show you watch.
by Michael White on Jan 18, 2012 10:33 AM PST up reply actions
yeah im the same… I was big into WWF… Hogan is my all time favorite and I probably lost interest in wrestling some time after NWO went away……. but what I was saying is he talked about it on his sports show, even interviewed wrestlers… I dont know, I just never had an interest to hear it talked about on a sports talk show… but oh well.
it's fixed
Not fake
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 18, 2012 10:38 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
I guess the blackout worked by the way.
by uschris0304 on Jan 18, 2012 10:18 AM PST up reply actions
Softball Tournament Question
LFP didn’t state in the rules which bats are going to be allowed. I want to assume that only ASA bats would be allowed, but I can see “softball-guy” bringing a rolled USSSA bat because he wasn’t told he couldn’t.
Good question
I’d email him. I would think no composite bats. I would also hope they provide some bats. Those things are pretty expensive and how many of us have our own softball bats?
I have a couple. One really good one and the first one I bought. Both are ASA bats and they will be shared with the team, of course.
Make DT team plans on your own board!
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I have
the official bat of TBLA, as shown at the picnic:
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by David Young on Jan 18, 2012 12:36 PM PST up reply actions
Composite bats are standard fare
There are different certifications. ASA bats are the standard lower-league/Co-ed league bats, and USSSA bats are the hot bats that could kill someone.
Also, while this is a tournament, what’s the expected level of competitiveness? Personally, I just want to meet most of you guys and share some drinks. I don’t want to have to worry about take-out slides at second-base.
I plan to play this as a tournament level game.
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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 18, 2012 10:32 AM PST up reply actions
I was confused myself
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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 18, 2012 10:41 AM PST up reply actions
I'm wearing these
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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 18, 2012 10:43 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
You might be leaving with a new boyfriend if you do. Not that there is anything wrong with that of course.
Winter night leagues in the SFV can get pretty dang cold. There was no way I wasn’t wearing baseball pants. Occasionally had to wear thermals under that.
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by David Young on Jan 18, 2012 12:38 PM PST up reply actions
If court is coming
He’ll be pulling off the Sandlot look with the blue jeans
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i confirm this. also, i sogned for the softball game and never heard back from any blog. im assuming that im not playing.
by court168627 on Jan 18, 2012 12:40 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
We gotta have you on team TBLA!
Otherwise on another blog I will destroy you!
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This thing is intense. It pits Stallion vs. Stallion. Prepare for battle!
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
I think it is a casual just for fun affair. Not hurting someone takes precedence over trying to make a play.
We all say that until the game gets close and then competitiveness takes over.
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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 18, 2012 10:42 AM PST up reply actions
I suggest you make a good feed
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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 18, 2012 10:46 AM PST up reply actions
I know if it comes down to it
I will plow over Bette Midler at home plate to win the game.
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Who doesn’t?
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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 18, 2012 10:31 AM PST up reply actions
Good stuff
http://mlb.sbnation.com/2012/1/17/2696559/the-baseball-player-name-hall-of-fame-the-class-of-2012
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Would suck
to be on a cruise ship that was sinking. Better than an airplane that was sinking of course, but that ordeal in Italy is pretty bad.
would suck unless I survived, and now im getting a fat payday out of a lawsuit.
by uschris0304 on Jan 18, 2012 10:24 AM PST up reply actions
Sinking and sideways not fun.
I’m very curious how this happened, not like reefs just show up.
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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 18, 2012 10:33 AM PST up reply actions
I have a friend
who works for Princess Cruises, which is owned by Carnival, which owns the sunken ship. She has not been too talkative lately. Their stock sank almost as fast as the ship
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
The Greek captain did not believe in going down with his ship. The conversation between he and the coast guard was interesting.
Get on your boat and do your job
I can do my job from the safety of the life boat
Get on your boat and do your job
I can do my job from the safety of the life boat
Get on your boat and do your job
I can do my job from the safety of the life boat
Get on your boat and do your job
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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 18, 2012 10:38 AM PST up reply actions
My wife just upgraded us to a balcony room instead of interior room on our summer cruise after this happened. I told her don’t worry the Carribean is warm, it’s just the sharks you have to watch out for. Plus I don’t really see myself jumping off of the balcony in an accident.
Just don't get
the DiCaprio suite
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Balcony Room is what I had, its the way to go forsure…
by uschris0304 on Jan 18, 2012 10:49 AM PST up reply actions
I do, shit is fun…. Its like a vegas casino in a boat, sort of…. you got casino, you got a sports bar, you got a club, you got karaoke bar, you got an auditorium with shows every night… you got alcohol everywhere. oh, and all the pools, and much more that I didnt mention… oh and you stop off at a city here and there and get to do stuff there too.
by uschris0304 on Jan 18, 2012 10:41 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah, cruises are great. Comfortable way to see some interesting places. I don’t see how they make money with 1,100 person staffs and all the loads of food there is to eat, plus all the entertainment and stuff.
Yes. I would like to see the pie chart of what passengers spend the most money on. I expect booze would be like 80%. They aren’t making it off of my family though. I save my drinking for games Chad Billingsley pitches.
Do they have wifi?
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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 18, 2012 10:58 AM PST up reply actions
I don’t think so. They have an internet cafe where you pay quite a bit to use their computers and internet. I think I paid $100 for it one cruise.
man
I would think that would change these days though, as having free wifi would be a big selling point in this modern world.
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Really?
Sitting by the pool
Drinking and eating
Watching the Dodgers on the IPAD
Isn’t that what you spent 1000’s to do?
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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 18, 2012 11:34 AM PST up reply actions
1000s? A seven-day Mexican Riviera cruise can be done for $500/person. That covers your lodging and your food, plus entertainment. That’s a fairly inexpensive vacation. Sure the cabin is significantly smaller than a hotel room, but I don’t spend a lot of time in it. A cruise is a way for me to simply relax and enjoy. I don’t have to make decisions about where to eat, what to do, etc. etc.
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basically, you’re paying 500 for a week in a floating hotel. Or you could spend 900 to stay a week in a landlocked hotel. Which isn’t on the fucking Ocean going to multiple exotic places.
by Josie Becker on Jan 18, 2012 1:01 PM PST up reply actions
gotta pay to go to those other places, now we’re in the 1k range
by Josie Becker on Jan 18, 2012 1:04 PM PST up reply actions
Many excursions are double-digit in cost. A seven-day cruise will typically have three ports of call. If you do one in each place, < 800 simolians.
I should clarify that the $500 didn’t include gratuities.
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You can leave the boat without paying for an excursion.
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yeah… and buying drinks from the bars isnt that cheap from what I remember….now what I should of done was buy a bottle from the gift shop, because with no duties and taxes it was crazy cheap…. But now ive been told you can get the alcohol you buy from the store on the cruise until AFTER the cruise… is that true?
Right. You can’t buy that booze and drink it on the ship. And you are limited to how much you can bring back into the US, like 4 liters.
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but you can usually bring a bottle or two aboard
and sneak more if you want
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When you first board from the U.S. maybe. Not from the ports.
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I dont think you can from the US either, because my bro and his friends got caught trying to smuggle Jack daniles in a Brisk Ice tea bottle. Couldnt bring it on…. I did buy tequilla from a port in meixco, cant remember what happened… If they brought to my room later, or after the cruise you get it also?
After the cruise. Or you drank it on land before you got back.
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and won’t tip over
and you won’t fall off of
and won’t give you Legionairre’s Disease
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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
What’s life w/out a little danger?
Didn’t Legionaire’s Disease first get infamous, and named for, a convention in a Philly hotel?
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key word
Philly. I’d rather go on a cruise of North Korean ports than stay a night in Philly
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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
It’s becoming more available and cheaper. It’s included with higher end rooms.
by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Jan 18, 2012 12:22 PM PST up reply actions
That’s a bit difficult in the middle of a fucking ocean!
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That said, many lines offer “cellular at sea”, which is rather expensive. I just drop off the grid instead.
I have a 7-day cruise booked in late April, looking forward to catching up on > 100,000 comments.
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I used to work with a guy who did pricing for cruise lines, he said their revenue is usually right around even thirds for fares, booze, and casino/onboard shopping.
by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Jan 18, 2012 12:21 PM PST up reply actions
I think that's it
My family went on one of those Mexican cruises 20 years ago (I didn’t go) and their booze tab was incredible.
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Hell yeah, dude I totally forgot about the food… You get to eat dinner with the captain, but you gotta dress up…… its not bad, steak, lobster, things like that….. then the regular food, buffet style, awesome…. and 24 hour pizza, HOLLA!
by uschris0304 on Jan 18, 2012 10:56 AM PST up reply actions
I hear you
not many things interest me less
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
If a cruise is boring, what do you guys do thats more exciting then that?? better be good haha
by uschris0304 on Jan 18, 2012 10:44 AM PST up reply actions
I could enjoy a cruise for like... a day or two
maybe 3. After that I would probably go insane
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I’ve only been once… If you guys are saying this having been on a cruise, then I got nothing…. But if you havent been on a cruise, then I bet its different then you think it is… It was for me…. Only beef I had was they didnt have the USC vs Virginia Tech game on the boat, I believe Leinarts 1st start as USC QB, and all the people trying to sell you shit when you dock in mexican cities, thats about it.
by uschris0304 on Jan 18, 2012 10:48 AM PST up reply actions
Leinarts first start was a 22-0 pasting of then #3 Auburn @ Jordan-Hare Stadium. Where’s that SEC pride now?
Yeah it was Auburn then, I guess, that sounds right.
by uschris0304 on Jan 18, 2012 10:50 AM PST up reply actions
Where’s that SEC pride now?
Guessing it’s probably tied to the six straight BCS championships.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 18, 2012 10:51 AM PST up reply actions
Had to get all factual, huh
The SEC was lucky that they missed USC in its prime. And this is coming from a UCLA-fan. My loathing of the SEC runs even deeper than the USC-UCLA rivalry. I hope USC runs the table next year and finally gets the SEC in the BCS Championship game.
USC in it’s prime ran into Young.
Which prime are we talking about?
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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 18, 2012 10:56 AM PST up reply actions
though they did play at V Tech the next year, so maybe it wasnt Leinarts 1st start…. I forgot, anyways, sports is limited on crusies, sucks.
by uschris0304 on Jan 18, 2012 10:53 AM PST up reply actions
its like when you go visit your relatives in arkansas
it is great for a couple hours, then you are counting down the hours for the return flight in 3 days
I have never been on a cruise, but it is something I want to do just to do it.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 18, 2012 10:43 AM PST up reply actions
Very sad story
I’ve spent a lot of time in that neck of the woods.
http://www.poetryfoundation.org/poem/176678 (It’s a shape poem AND an elegy)
Not being able to connect to the wifi on my computer is so damn frustrating. Luckily I have unlimited data and can tether my phone. But it is still frustrating.
makes me think back to the time we had no cell phones, no laptops, none of this, how did we survive?
by uschris0304 on Jan 18, 2012 10:29 AM PST up reply actions
I miss those days!… I hate it now when I have a group of friends over to watch a game, and everytime I look over, everyone is looking at their cellphone.
by uschris0304 on Jan 18, 2012 10:31 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah, it is wierd to go somewhere where there are large groups of teenagers because they will all be standing around and instead of talking to each other they all have their phones out texting. Seems so lame. 1980s ftw.
friend of mine
worked with Scolari a couple years on the Honey I Shrunk the Kids TV show. He said Scolari is still a little bitter about Tom Hanks success. He’s also a big time Scotch snob
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
yeah I cant help but look at my phone, even when im watching a movie in the theatre…. im ashamed.
by uschris0304 on Jan 18, 2012 10:37 AM PST up reply actions
You are an amazing contradiction
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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 18, 2012 10:47 AM PST up reply actions
haha, sports is more important then a movie, to me.
by uschris0304 on Jan 18, 2012 10:49 AM PST up reply actions
I cant stand it when I go to a restaurant now and every kid sitting at a table has fuckin ipod earplugs in…WTF? Do you really need to listen to music that bad?? Im more upset with the parents for allowing it, but I guess its a good way to shut your kids up these days… I dont allow that shit though.
by uschris0304 on Jan 18, 2012 10:36 AM PST up reply actions
You guys are not far from “get off my lawn” stage.
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by David Young on Jan 18, 2012 1:01 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Well, I’m working and since I’m a political blogger, having internet is pretty important to being able to do my job.
ah, Thee original Wii. Chris, dinner is ready!!.. Hold on Mom, im trying to get to the next level!
by uschris0304 on Jan 18, 2012 10:33 AM PST up reply actions
magazines were a thing, and a lot of faxing. Writtin’ letters, maillin em off.
by Josie Becker on Jan 18, 2012 10:30 AM PST up reply actions
In Back to the Future 2, you knew it was the future, because fax machines were so prevalent.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Here’s a video on an “internet” from 1969. And yet, no “future” movies incorporated the idea of a personal computer let alone a network of them.
by Josie Becker on Jan 18, 2012 10:59 AM PST up reply actions
he pretty much nails it at 1:55
from 1964. Arthur C Clark is such a boss.
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“we can contact our friends anywhere on earth, even if we don’t know their physical location”
And productivity will plummet as a result : )
by Josie Becker on Jan 18, 2012 11:06 AM PST up reply actions
“Only if what I say to you sounds completely unbelievable have we any chance of visualizing the future”
Mind. Blown. I imagine Hollywood directors have some version of this speech that they’re operating on when they make the future simply an extension of the present, but probably not as well said.
by Josie Becker on Jan 18, 2012 11:04 AM PST up reply actions
That is because SciFi movies are lame compared to the great stuff what was written in the 30’s – 60’s.
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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 18, 2012 11:35 AM PST up reply actions
Who are the good hard sci fi righters of today?
are there any? Most everything now days is soap opera or “soft” sci fi
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Don’t know.
I was a big fan of David Brin but he 80-90’s guy. Have not read any new writers this decade.
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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 18, 2012 11:49 AM PST up reply actions
all my sources I would trust to do research for this are down today
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not my field
but Margaret Atwood is highly regarded and P.D. James wrote the excellent “The Children of Men.”
My cousin is a well-regarded sci-fi author. That’s not my scene, so I haven’t read his stuff. His name is Daniel Abraham.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
i see he is in albuquerque
someone throw up the fbihop signal
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Yep. He collaborates with some frequency with George RR Martin (Game of Thrones), who lives in NM also.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
so its true what they say about writers and suffering?
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My cousin
Is he fat?
Still chasing the dream of mediocrity
by Humma Kavula on Jan 18, 2012 4:15 PM PST up reply actions
Bride adores Connie Willis.
Still chasing the dream of mediocrity
by Humma Kavula on Jan 18, 2012 4:15 PM PST up reply actions
right article
drive to office, type article, hand article to someone, someone goes down to printing press and moves knobs around, and then prints it. some other guy takes the printed things and takes them to some other dude who yells PAPERS, GET YOUR PAPERS
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I liked this headline
Hollywood Hills combed after discovery of head
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
LOL
Spaceballs FTMFW
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 18, 2012 10:42 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
My fav headline of the last week: Porn Industry To Pull Out Over Condom Law
by Josie Becker on Jan 18, 2012 10:39 AM PST up reply actions
My iPhone says
for playback of Youtube videos, I have 8.5 hours.
My question for SW is why not just bring a charger into the office and then keep your phone charged all day.
seven minutes? I’ll watch, but come on, edit that man
by Josie Becker on Jan 18, 2012 11:22 AM PST up reply actions
she wore the sparkles?
Blame her
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 18, 2012 11:42 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
I guess he really does love LA
Anthony De Rosa @AntDeRosa
Sky Sources: David Beckham will re-sign for LA Galaxy tomorrow. via @SkySportsNews @adamchesterton
I figured he was a goner after that championship game.
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I say he’s coming back, and all I get are naysayers. Like I was at a horse convention.
by Josie Becker on Jan 18, 2012 11:15 AM PST up reply actions
Hay, now those same folks should pony up whatever you bet them
Poor Josie was screaming herself horse.
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Nah it's cool
Don’t help me out or anything: http://www.lagconfidential.com/2012/1/18/2716384/three-star-daily-jan-18th-david-beckham-set-to-announce-return
by Josie Becker on Jan 18, 2012 11:14 AM PST up reply actions
Hah I'll comment over there. Just to help you out
and not because god forbid I should post something “off topic” in this thread. ;)
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it’s not as bad as it used to be over there, views are up and I"ve got three or four regular commenters. Still, much appreciated : )
by Josie Becker on Jan 18, 2012 11:22 AM PST up reply actions
sweet, were going back to back forsure.
by uschris0304 on Jan 18, 2012 11:18 AM PST up reply actions
haha
Not Buster Olney @TrippingOlney
I’M OPEN TO OUTSIDE ANSWERS ON THIS ONE RT @bravesfan9586: @TrippingOlney WHY ARE PHILLIES FANS SUCH DOUCHEBAGS
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Practice
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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
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Darvish’s agreement with the Rangers is expected to be for six years, tweets Jon Heyman of CBS Sports.
Kershaw, Strasburg, Darvish = 2012 boner
by silverwidow on Jan 18, 2012 11:32 AM PST up reply actions
gotta stop talking about boners man
Now if these guys were all Dodgers, maybe, lol.
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dammit
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Jan 18, 2012 11:37 AM PST up reply actions
Haha
evansilva
Jerry Rice on Brandon Jacobs: "He’s a little bit soft. … This guy is 265 and it upsets me when I see him get tackled by a guy who’s 190.
The AL West fight is going to be such fun, I just hope Seattle and Oakland don’t get hurt in the process.
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Well
it would be nice if they could be like the 70s Reds and Dodgers, good teams, good players, good managers.
by bhsportsguy on Jan 18, 2012 11:41 AM PST up reply actions
Though
not very good races, most times they just blew out the division.
by bhsportsguy on Jan 18, 2012 11:41 AM PST up reply actions
Right, still the games were awesome if the races were not.
Still think the opening to the 75 season was the best ever.
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by Phil Gurnee on Jan 18, 2012 11:42 AM PST up reply actions
Reading about the Dodgers/Reds rivalry in Posnanski’s book, The Machine, was great. I loved how the Reds hated and were confounded by Mike Marshall, and how he would taunt the shit out of them.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 18, 2012 11:45 AM PST up reply actions
I may have to read this next. I would have expected the Reds to simply wear Joe Rudi faces if he was giving them shit.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Jan 18, 2012 11:46 AM PST up reply actions
Thanks, but I’ll buy it for my Nook, need to get a start on my electronic library.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Jan 18, 2012 11:51 AM PST up reply actions
What's Sunday?
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
It’s the day that comes after Saturday. Usually reserved for rest and/or worship. But that’s not important right now.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 18, 2012 1:15 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
No one calls me Martin
except my creditors
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Guess you know what kind of email it is :)
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 18, 2012 1:46 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
I was about to say
I can bring it on Sunday
by bhsportsguy on Jan 18, 2012 11:49 AM PST up reply actions
I could see Texas and Anaheim winning 95+ games
It’s gonna be fun to watch
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Just wait until Texas signs Fielder. Gonna be a kickass race.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 18, 2012 11:44 AM PST up reply actions
Don’t count out Oakland. What they lack in talent they make up for in an old dump of a stadium, and charging for Pepsi
by Josie Becker on Jan 18, 2012 11:45 AM PST up reply actions
Moneyball > Angels in the Outfield
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
What’s Cubs got to do with it?
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
The baseball movie that sucked was the Wesley Snipes/Barry Bonds one. So many tight shots you couldn’t even see the action.
The Fan was soooo bad.
I need to rewatch it just to embrace the hate. The monsoon weather in the final game seemed absurd.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 18, 2012 11:54 AM PST up reply actions
I enjoyed it
despite the crappiness of the movie and the Giants.
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I hope you have to cover a 2-day filibuster in the New Mexico state senate.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 18, 2012 11:52 AM PST up reply actions
@mccoveychron: I would like to announce my plan to sterilize people who make Yu Darvish puns. I call it Yugenics.
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Yurhythmics?
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
I knew a band once called Youth In Asia
by Josie Becker on Jan 18, 2012 12:03 PM PST up reply actions
I enjoyed this series of 7 comments or so.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 18, 2012 12:07 PM PST up reply actions
That’s why Derek Jeter has never left the Yankees.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 18, 2012 12:15 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
the Captain of the Italian Cruise ship is charged with manslaughter and abandoning his ship
by Josie Becker on Jan 18, 2012 12:19 PM PST up reply actions
I can see that
he is supposed to be in charge of the evacuation, but he bailed and left those people to die while he got to safety.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
The dance band on the Titanic will be waiting for him in hell.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
by Nolij on Jan 18, 2012 12:20 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, I was making a joke.
He also said that he didn’t abandon the ship, he tripped and fell into a life boat. Seriously.
sorry, didn’t mean to trample on your joke, just adding clarification : )
by Josie Becker on Jan 18, 2012 12:22 PM PST up reply actions
It is not against the law
though the captain does generally have a responsibility to ensure that all passengers leave the ship safely. One would usually have to be on the ship to make sure that happens.
by bhsportsguy on Jan 18, 2012 12:24 PM PST up reply actions
Being charged with manslaughter
doesn’t make it against the law to leave the ship.
by bhsportsguy on Jan 18, 2012 12:26 PM PST up reply actions
it’s one of the charges levied against him
by Josie Becker on Jan 18, 2012 12:27 PM PST up reply actions
Who wants ot be a captain nowadays
You can’t keelhaul anymore, but you still have to go down with the ship.
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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
isn’t it pretty fundamental to stalking that the victim not be aware?
by court168627 on Jan 18, 2012 12:26 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
Rob Lowe says that Peyton Manning is retiring.
Hearing my fave, #18 Peyton Manning will not return to #NFL. Wow. #ColtsThat’s, uh, strange.
Rob Lowe is the new Buster Olney.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
rob lowe is the new logan morrison
by court168627 on Jan 18, 2012 12:27 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
Greatest Rob Lowe movie character?
Wayne’s World?
Austin Powers?
St Elmo’s Fire?
The Wiggles?
Please don’t respond.
you said movie. in thay case, wiggles
by court168627 on Jan 18, 2012 12:43 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
“Creepy Statutory Rapist” – Home Video
by ishXdavid on Jan 18, 2012 12:43 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Parks and Rec? Which I'm sure Xei watches regularly ;)
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Easiest question ever
The saturated with sweat, head-band wearing saxophonist from SEF. I swear I could watch that scene a hundred times it’s so awful.
Snow White Oscars number
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Go Niners, I guess. Bleah.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Right.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Wrong
Patriots are the devil.
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Maybe Peyton Manning should have taken some of Chris Trager’s vitamins
by Eric Stephen on Jan 18, 2012 12:29 PM PST up reply actions
i know nothing about football so excuse me if this is stupid, but the colts have to be the luckiest team in the nfl. they get Manning for his whole career, have one shitty season, then get andrew luck. there are probably some teams that haven’t had a good qb in over a decade
by court168627 on Jan 18, 2012 12:32 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
There’s a reason their logo is a horseshoe.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 18, 2012 12:33 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
The Browns are so lucky. They get a ready-made franchise and get to draft Tim Couch.
—People in 1999.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
right
Before EVERYONE got fired Luck made a ton of sense as Peyton’s heir though, sounded like a guy smart enough to run the offense the way Manning does. That probably all goes out the window now though.
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nolander’s team has never had one
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
As a Raider he certainly was great
59, 60, 65.8, 67.6 passing percentages in his first and only 4 full years with them, and QB ratings of 86.5, 92.4, 95.5, 97.3.
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Lord
Anything relevant to the Rich Gannon conversation? Or just pointing out things that I don’t care about?
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I’m speaking more toward his time just with the Raiders. He may not be a great QB overall, but with the Raiders he was.
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thats true
but I think he means franchise QB, and gannon wasn’t long enough for that tag
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If that's what he meant then I concede
What about the irrelevant fat QB from LSU I’ve already forgotten his name??
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I know it's essentially an arbitrary number
I think it’s pretty widely accepted that any time in the 90s is pretty good, regardless of what it exactly means.
Even so, going by pass %, yards, tds and int, he was better than good in my mind with the Raiders.
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yeah, If I remember correctly, he threw alot of short passes, so you would think that would inflate his QB rating, etc.
Peyton Mannings for his career is 7.6
Montana’s is 7.5
Tom Brady’s is 7.5 as well. So not too far off from these HOF and to be HOFers.
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Is that yard per completion or per attempt?
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YPA is more relevant, I think.
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Gannon (his time with the raiders) – 11.5
Montana – 11.9
Brady – 11.8
Peyton – 11.7
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You’d have to pick out Montana, Brady and Manning’s best four-year stretch to make it an apples to apples comparison.
I was hoping no one would say that :P
The other 3 i’m comparing him to are clearly elite HOF qbs, I’m saying Gannon was good-great in his time with the Raiders.
But if you want to go ahead and ruin my entire argument with things like facts go ahead and do it! :)
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I’m a Raider fan and I dont think he was a great QB… good yea, really good, I guess so, but I dont think any NFL gurus would consider him great.
When he was healthy he averaged:
26 tds 11 int 3947 yards and a 63.4 pass completion percentage. Definitely not top 5 numbers, but top 10 i’d guess most definitely at the time.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/G/GannRi00.htm
His career comp says Kurt Warner, if that means anything to you.
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Also going off passer rating, which may not mean much
He’s 24th all-time. So yeah, who knows, lol.
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Just waiting with baited breath for Andrew McCarthy to chime in with update on Yu Darvish.
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thanks for that BTW
I would have hated to have missed the Clam Bake
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 18, 2012 12:34 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Just change all your passwords
to your ATM pin. Easy Peasy
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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Gary
I sent you a mail
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 18, 2012 12:39 PM PST via iPhone app reply actions
It’s a good thing you guys tell each other about sending e-mails. Otherwise I’m sure nobody would ever receive them.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
tommy, nolij replied to your post
by court168627 on Jan 18, 2012 12:41 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
This is some joke gimmick they have
it is best to ignore it
by bhsportsguy on Jan 18, 2012 12:42 PM PST up reply actions
That’s sort of what I was thinking, since it is very funny after all.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
we're a cutting edge comedy duo
The album drops soon
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 18, 2012 12:46 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Comedy teams don’t exist anymore. They ended with the Smothers Brothers, Sonny & Cher, etc.
Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent.
Flight of the Conchords, Garfunkel & Oates, God’s Pottery…
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
I should rephrase my comment as “widely known and liked comedy teams don’t exist anymore”. Sorry…
Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent.
For clarity, “widely known and widely liked”….
Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent.
Remind me again of your definition of “widely.”
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
I enjoy Flight of the Conchords, as do my parents, and some of the teenagers I teach.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Not at all. Not a slam against comedy teams today. They are just not nearly as well known as comedy teams were years ago.
It’s harder to become really well known these days. In 1970, if you got a network television show, you were guaranteed fame (even if for only a short amount of time.)
Out attention is so split segmented these days.
Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent.
I’m sure the recognition level across the general population for the Flight of the Conchords today nowhere approaches that of famous comedy teams of the past, pre-1990.
Everybody knew who the Smother Brothers were back then. I don’t believe that is even close to being true for any comedy team today.
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having more than 3 channels will make that happen
by Josie Becker on Jan 18, 2012 1:10 PM PST up reply actions
Not really – most everybody out there knows Steve Martin, Robin Williams, Bill Cosby.
Of course – they are all old, and strarted their careers when media wasn’t so fragmented.
Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent.
and even there, HBO special launched his career so really he made his name in the movies, not as a comedian
by Josie Becker on Jan 18, 2012 1:21 PM PST up reply actions
Not me
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 18, 2012 1:47 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
HBO special, Indie Movie, series on Comedy Central. Nope
by Josie Becker on Jan 18, 2012 1:50 PM PST up reply actions
Bill Cosby is roughly as active right now as the Smothers Brothers.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Well, I think I’ll drop this. I’m not explaining myself well at all.
Not a question of current fame, but of the level, breadth and depth of fame these days (generally) as opposed to the past.
I’m old, so I can compare yesterday with today. No value judgments here – just a recognition that the world has changed enormously over the years.
Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent.
Do you consider Xi Jinping famous?
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
So, fame is relative.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
My fat cousins are at least.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
by Nolij on Jan 18, 2012 1:22 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
no prob
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 18, 2012 12:47 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Sweet, My Coke Rewards is telling me that there are new ways to win in the new year. Thanks for the heads-up!
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
No problem
I knew this Coke Rewards info was something you needed to know about asap
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There’s a code under every cap of a 20-ounce or 2-liter bottle and inside 12-packs. They’ve been pimping it all over their packaging for years. How have you not seen it?
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
I miss the contests that you could win without entering in codes
I’m far too lazy to do the contests now.
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Absolutely
Smartest thing in the world these companies did was putting a code that you have to enter.
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The rewards are roughly equal to the general store at either Dave & Busters or Chuck E. Cheese.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 18, 2012 1:05 PM PST up reply actions
You can redeem points for free Cokes, or gift cards to common shopping places. If you drink a lot of it (which I do), you can redeem for $25 or $50 gift cards.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
If REM was still playing that should be an REM song title
sung to tune of Man on the Moon
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“Everything Hurts” —80 year-old Michael Stipe
by kinbote on Jan 18, 2012 1:50 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
The 49ers will attempt to be the 11th different NFC team in 11 years to represent the NFC
in the Super Bowl.
This got me thinking, of the four sports leagues, NFL, MLB, NBA and NHL, which conference or league has gone the longest without having 10 different franchises represent them in their championship game or series.
The NFC would be the quickest since it has been done for 10 straight years but can you name the league or conference where you have to go back the furthest.
Wow
This is something I was thinking the other day, but I had no idea it was this bad. The NFC is really lacking in long term great teams. Shoot, the AFC has the Patriots, Steelers, Ravens (though with less success), and had the Colts before this year.
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Are the Eagles the best NFC team in the last 10 years?
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I think you'd have to say yes even without a Super Bowl title
They were in 4 NFC championship games the last decade or so, that’s pretty significant.
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I would guess the American League.
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of the four sports leagues, NFL, MLB, NBA and NHL
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I refuse to follow such narrow constraints, there have been far more Rose Bowls than Super Bowls.
by Josie Becker on Jan 18, 2012 1:26 PM PST up reply actions
wikipedia is down, but I know at least when the Angels and Stars were in the PCL, there was no playoff
by Josie Becker on Jan 18, 2012 1:28 PM PST up reply actions
and if the PCL and International League were sending their champions to a World Series type deal, they’d be in the conversation, possibly, not really
by Josie Becker on Jan 18, 2012 1:34 PM PST up reply actions
To be fair
the arrangement you are thinking of goes back to 1947 and it wasn’t the championship of anything officially related to the college football.
For sure, and the Pac-league doesn’t have the equal-ish playing field the NFL has, but it’s amazing Arizona has never made it, Cal goes back 52 years and then it’s 1965 (oregon st.) to get in the other 8
by Josie Becker on Jan 18, 2012 1:43 PM PST up reply actions
When it becomes widely-known and widely-liked. :)
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
by Nolij on Jan 18, 2012 1:27 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
But Galaxy is winning championships for LA…. I want to include MLS and start saying of the 5 major US sports.
NASCAR is more popular than MLS still.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
NASCAR is second in popularity only to the NFL
by Josie Becker on Jan 18, 2012 1:31 PM PST up reply actions
Cup races still typically draw 75,000 to 150,000 fans each week, depending on the track. Slightly more than 30 million people watched at least part of this year’s Daytona 500 on TV.
You’d have to pay me to search for a state by state breakdown of NASCAR’s numbers
by Josie Becker on Jan 18, 2012 1:49 PM PST up reply actions
NASCAR grew on me
I think NASCAR races are very well produced for TV. Yes, the cars only turn left, but it’s nonstop action from the multiple position battles to the radio-communication between the drivers and their teams. Something is always going on, and the rapid presentation lends itself well to the speed of the race.
The Sparks and Avengers and whatever the XFL team was called all won championships too.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
a championship in an 18 team domestic league in a sold out game is on a different level than the Arena Bowl
by Josie Becker on Jan 18, 2012 1:33 PM PST up reply actions
Did Avengers win a AFL title?? were talking AFL right? if so I dont remember that…. but I do remember the XFL title, LA only city to win one baby!!
I’m willing to let MLS slide, since ten years ago there were only ten teams
by Josie Becker on Jan 18, 2012 1:27 PM PST up reply actions
I will add though
it wasn’t until MLB expansion in 1961 and 1969 that this type of discussion was even possible for baseball.
For the NHL it wasn’t until the 1960s and beyond too.
It took the AFL/NFL merger in 1970 to put this together.
And further expansion and merger in the NBA in the 60s, 70s, and 80s.
There was an AL and an NL from 1901 – 1960 as well.
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True
and yes, all 16 original franchises did win at least one pennant if not a World Series by the time expansion began.
The Philolies only had 2.
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and that was during WWII (1944 I think) when rosters were somewhat depleted.
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You can count their pennants on one arm.
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by Nolij on Jan 18, 2012 2:12 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
It is the
Western Conference of the NBA. You have to go back to 1974 when the Milwaukee Bucks represented the Western Conference vs Boston in that season’s NBA Finals.
Most other leagues or conferences finish up by the early 90s, the AFC is the one that was the second longest with Cincinnati being the 10th team of the AFC to be in the Super Bowl back in 1988.
The AL is done by 1991 Minnesota, the NL by 1998 with the Padres, the NBA Eastern Conference by Chicago in 1998. Trust me the NHL was done by the 90s.
how many Western Conference titles since 1974 were won by the Lakers?
by Josie Becker on Jan 18, 2012 1:29 PM PST up reply actions
They’ve been in half of the last 32 Finalses. That’s crazy.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Since coming to Los Angeles for the 1960-1961
season, they have been in 25 NBA Finals, first one in 1962. So that is 25 of the last 51 NBA Finals. They have lost more than they have won, since they went 1-8 in those previous 9 NBA Finals.
Still, you could rename the Western Conference: Lakers and Friends and not be inaccurate.
by Josie Becker on Jan 18, 2012 1:45 PM PST up reply actions
Going back to when the NBA starts counting these things
65 NBA Finals since 1947, the Minneapolis and Los Angeles Lakers have played in 31 of them, winning 16.
They are only NBA team to have played in a finals in each decade of the league’s existence and the only one to not go more than 9 years without an appearance.
Interesting and lengthy investigative piece by Deadspin about the media coverage of Cam Newton at Auburn
love that they dont give a shit about redacting email addresses. this is why everyone hates gawkercorp.
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JonHeymanCBS
Scout on darvish: “easily the best japanese pitcher to come over. talented and cocky.” Big pickup for #rangers
Darvish contract
JeffPassan
Source: Yu Darvish deal is for six years and $60 million. Bonuses can add up to $10 million.
Is the .4 a short joke at Humma's expense?
That’s a new low ;)
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We only count your comments as .6 of a comment. Clearly you commented a multiple of 4 times in that record article.
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I was gonna say: of all the short jokes made at my expense, this was the most inscrutable.
Still chasing the dream of mediocrity
by Humma Kavula on Jan 18, 2012 2:36 PM PST up reply actions
Math nerd alert
8 is a multiple of 4, but .6*8=4.8
Clearly he commented (5X+4) times where X is a whole number.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Grantland is going to launch a redesigned website at midnight, Bill Simmons said on Twitter.
by fbihop on Jan 18, 2012 2:06 PM PST via Android app reply actions
If anyone was following the news of the severed head in Hollywood yesterday, they apparently also found a severed hand nearby. No doubt Dr. Brennan is on her way.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
lets throw rocks at bottles to find out who the killer is
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jan 18, 2012 2:32 PM PST up reply actions
Softball Tournament
Sorry I may have missed updates about the tournament, but do we have an idea of what time it will start and end? And did I make the cut for the TBLA team?
No times yet. Deadline for signups is 1/28 so probably nothing until after then. Phil/Dave can let you know if you made the team. Otherwise email LFP (see above comments for address) to see which team you are on.
I can SABR it in advance: SSS.
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I can't wait to see my tblaWAR once it's all said and done
I’m totally going to Austin Gallagher it out there, big man hitting singles!
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I have no idea. Phil has the last list from LFP. But yeah, e-mail that guy to be sure.
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I'm sure I know the answer from Phil
But I told my buddy Cory who I brought to the last softball game about the tournament and he seemed interested, and he is a member on here (though a dirty, dirty angel fan like Nolander), is it cool if he signs up and with TBLA?
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No, he can play for TBLA, we already have the max, I’ve had to say no to long time TBLA members.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Fucking Not should be in there somewhere
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Yeah it was pretty confusing if not for this post, lol
Alright it’s cool, just wanted to find out
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Post will be going up in a day or two since everyone keeps asks the same questions that are answered in the old Fanpost.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
After all that, Darvish is only getting like a $3.5mil raise over last year, when he could have pitched for two more years in Japan and come over as a free agent.
Silly.
At the risk of his arm frying during those two years.
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I love DY's response below
But it’s going to be even better when Pujols takes him deep.
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Yeah
it’s sizable, but if he can get 60(70)/6 negotiating against a team who has no competition for his services and if they can’t come to an agreement gets their money back, and him having with no leverage beyond a negotiating window and the threat of going back to japan (which again, would leave the Rangers with all their money back), I wonder what he could have gotten in two years at age 28(?) with a free market?
because he just got 45 million more in guaranteed money
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he went to dominguez the year i transferred to sonoma, but I played against him in high school and we were friendly at dominguez after i transferred back.
http://www.gotoros.com/custompages/baseball/2005/season/teamcume.htm
http://www.gotoros.com/custompages/baseball/2006/season/teamcume.htm
those were the two teams i played for.
I’m fully prepared to be mocked for my statistics
The team won when you led in appearances!
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I bet you deny both of those balks.
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true story
at Cal Poly Pomona, i was brought in with the bases loaded 2 outs to close the game, and balked in the tying run without throwing a pitch when i turned to try to pick the guy off first.
Got the out, then the win.
VULTURE
One time in little league I enduced a bases loaded double play
on one pitch with one out. That was the only pitch I threw in that game.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
after that pitch the umpire threw you out of the game. To this day he hasn’t been able to explain to his manager how a 25 year old was able to enter the game, warm up and throw an official pitch.
by G.Scott on Jan 18, 2012 3:15 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Only time I got thrown out of a game
was when I tossed my bat back to the dugout out of disgust with a called 3rd strike. No warning, I didn’t even tomahawk the thing it was a nice clean toss where no one else was.
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That is the exact same thing
for my only time being thrown out. My parents were disgusted with me
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
My dad was the coach
and actually apologized to me, because the ump had actually warned him and the other coach before the game that he had zero tolerance for stuff like that, but my dad figured our team wouldn’t do anything stupid. He should have known better.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
I don’t believe I’ve ever been thrown out.
In fact, I don’t think I’ve ever even been warned, and I’ve thrown at guys intentionally.
that reminds me of another story
I don’t think I’ve ever been warned either EVEN THOUGH EVERYONE THOUGHT I INTENTIONALLY HIT A GUY. Turns out that when I wasn’t looking he pulled some babe ruth bullshit and pointed to LF. I then proceeded to plunk him good, but on accident. I had a good laugh about it in the dugout when people tried to talk to me about it.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
I never threw at anybody but there were a few I wish I did and many that I accidentally hit that I wish I didn’t. I remember leading off one game (18 year old) and got nailed with a fast ball in the shoulder blades, hurt like hell. The pitcher came over and apologized big time between innings. He knew I was pitching and didn’t want to get hit either. Getting hit sucks!
I had a tendency to get hit in the head
but always on the helmet
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Please tell me the one guy was known as “Funky Cold”.
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I was like
There’s no way Dave said that without someone being named Medina
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About 5 years ago I was on a Southwest Airlines flight to Vegas (from Boise) and Tone Loc was sitting behind me. The second I heard his voice I had to find out if it was him.
Oh man, hearing that voice you could only know it was him
That would have been a cool mild thrill
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“Holy crap, it’s the iguana from Fern Gully!”
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
I believe Chuck Norris would be the relevant expert.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Yeah I know, and I don’t think he gets a CC Sabathia contract on the open market, but maybe he gets 100/6 or 130/7
actually
that’s kershaw extension money.
if he were a free agent, he’d set records for length and girth
I’m no Eric or Xei but I can guess:
2012: 8m
2013: 14m
2014: 20m
[end of arbitration]
2015: 25m
2016: 25m
2017: 25m
2018: 25m
7y/$142
Watched The Ides of March last night
would like to thank Humma for whatever role he had in marketing that movie, as it was quite good. Poser fell into a cliche category, however.
I'm waiting for
The Ides of Laura March
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
It was quite watchable and has it moments, but didn’t the well-connected female volunteer staffer role seem a bit contrived to fit the desired plot?
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I find films such as these, where I’m entering a world I don’t know much about on an insider level (Moneyball would be in that category), I’m much more willing to say “I’m rooting for the hero, these other creatures are pawns to achieve a certain effect, except for the villains”
by Josie Becker on Jan 18, 2012 2:59 PM PST up reply actions
Also
because I’m unclear, the primary process is a matter of securing delegates to vote for you in the national convention. I assume each state has different rules for how they divide up the delegate vote, either winner take all or based on your percentage of the vote. fbihop, can you help me out?
Also sometimes the primaries don’t actually matter and the delegates just vote for who they feel like. Democracy!
Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jan 18, 2012 3:00 PM PST up reply actions
Aren’t primaries structured differently for the parties as well?
/a day without Wikipedia has been tougher than anticipated
I think the Democrats have to secure delegates for representation at the convention, except for super-delegates who get to vote for whomever they choose.
I don’t think Republicans have that kind of structure, so primaries are just used to gauge a candidate’s chances of winning the nomination.
It’s been a few years since my last poli-sci class, so I’m probably wrong on the specifics, but I’m sure they’re structured differently.
right, and Ides of March was about the Democratic primary, so that makes sense. Also makes sense why Obama-Hilary carried on till just about the end. Whereas the republican primary, if you keep losing states you’re not gonna stay in cause the delegate count is close.
by Josie Becker on Jan 18, 2012 3:22 PM PST up reply actions
I'm not completely sure
I still have my old textbooks at home, so I’ll review and get back to you. I don’t want to lead you astray.
Republican primaries are also usually winner-take-all, so Republican candidates know early on if they’re viable for the nomination. Democrats allot delegates based on representation, so a candidate could come in 2nd or 3rd in a primary and still be in the race with more favorable states later on in the primary schedule.
that’s it, so I had them both, just didn’t remember it was split by party.
by Josie Becker on Jan 18, 2012 6:28 PM PST up reply actions
Hit escape as the page loads or just turn off javascript.
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by regfairfield on Jan 18, 2012 3:11 PM PST up reply actions
Repubs did it different this time
The delegates are proportioned according to the percentage of votes the candidate receives in the first 6 states. After that, it will be winner take all. This is suppose to allow the lower end candidates to stay in the race a little longer and give the Super Tuesday States in February more value (the race has already been over in January in the past).
Goldstein tweeted earlier today that he would pick Kershaw over King Felix as a better pitcher in the next 5 years
Goldstein’s last tweet
Kevin Goldstein
Kershaw. RT @RDansky: @Kevin_Goldstein What if Kershaw had to fight a velociraptor before each start, while Felix got foot massages?
The last movie I almost watched all the way through
was “Patton” streaming on my iPad.
Even that one I skipped some parts.
I also watched most of “The Longest Day”
(I was in a WWII mood).
I think
The Longest day lasted longer than the war
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Robert Mitchum = bad ass.
His Cape Fear is from the same year.
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Couple of his later movies
Friends of Eddie Coyle and Farewell My Lovely are great Mitchum vehicles
It's not what you look like, when you're doin' what you're doin'
It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Cuban Cigars
In December I was able to go to Cuba and there was some discussion about the cigars:
To David Young, I smoked a lot and you are certainly right, they are fabulous.
I was able to bring cigars home, which is technically illegal, but it is not something they fully enforce. I declared both cigars and rum on my customs form and the only thing the agent said to me was, “Welcome Home.” For a few people in our group they made them destroy some or all of their cigars. No one got into any trouble though.
I applaud your declaration
I bet it was a little interesting waiting in that line though.
Enjoy them.
Declaring is definitely
the right move. Well played Mr. BK.
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Nice. I have never actually had one, they just have the rep. When I am in Mexico, I wonder if my cruise line can recommend a store where I can be certain the Cuban cigars truly are Cuban, then I will try one. But I am smoking it before I get back to the U.S.
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I could have smoked them when I was in London
just didn’t get around to it.
I have seen those shops (they are right by where the cruise ships dock, I don’t know if any of them are reputable. The last cruise I was on had a cigar parlor, if yours has one, check with them. Or you can ask the concierge.
Yeah they all do. Didn’t occur to me that I could simply by one on board!
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Declaring,
Our teachers/advisors that went on our trip wouldn’t technically give us their blessing, but they said they’ve never seen anyone get in trouble while being honest with customs. Unless perhaps you’re smuggling plutonium.
David Young, you have one with your name on it at the softball tourney. Yea there are a lot of counterfeit ones out there, try to find an official seller.
Dude, that would be beyond generous.
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And yes, if you are honest with customs, I would imagine the worst thing that would happen is that they would simply make you destroy something they weren’t going to allow you to take in. After all, if you declare everything, you can’t be smuggling.
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The bookshelves in his living room contain mostly biographies — Mandela, Marley, Dylan, Beckham, Salvador Dalí, Steve Jobs —
Really? Dalí and Jobs need first names in that list? For what?
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Just pay Clayton
Why is this even a debate? Just pay Kershaw. Damn I cannot wait until the Dodgers have new owners…
Think Blue
He is going to get paid; on that there is no debate.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 20, 2012 8:18 AM PST up reply actions
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