Dodgers 2012 Minor League Countdown: 100 - 91
by Brandon Lennox on Jan 25, 2012 6:05 PM PST
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As we enter the second half of my Dodger Minor League countdown, I figured I'd give a little refresher about this list that I'm putting together. In short, am ranking and providing a summary of virtually every player in the Dodgers minor league system who meets the following qualifications: (1) is within the Dodgers organization as of December 14, 2011; (2) is under 28 years old as of Opening Day 2012; and (3) is still considered a prospect by Baseball America standards, which means that pitchers must have less than 50 innings pitched (or 30 appearances) in the majors, and hitters must have less than 130 at bats in the majors. Like Baseball America, I do not take into account service time, and therefore it is possible that I have included prospects who will not technically be rookies in 2012.
In addition, while I do spend a lot of time ranking the players in the order that I think is the most accurate, this list can also be viewed as a "get to know your Dodger minor league system". My goal is for Dodger fans to know at least a little something about all players in the Dodgers system because it makes looking at the minor league box scores more fun. There won’t just be a bunch of names, but instead players that fans have at least heard of.
Now that we've moved into the top 100 Dodger minor leaguers you'll notice that that the names on the list will become more and more familiar. This particular group features several guys from the 2011 draft, a few interesting international players, and a pair of music videos.
100. Blake Dean, 1B (96 games in LoA in 2011)
Drafted by Dodgers 2010, 8th round
6’1", 175 lbs, 24 years old, bats left handed
.237 average, .657 OPS, 7 HR’s, 44 RBI’s, 1 SB
Pre 2011 Rank: 77; Pre 2010 Rank: N/A; Pre 2009 Rank: N/A
Blake Dean was definitely a safe and cost effective pick for the Dodgers as the LSU Senior signed for just $35K. The 10th round pick of the Twins in 2009, Dean chose to return to college for his senior season even though he had already led his team to the national title. In 2010, Dean hit .341 for LSU with a .430 OBP, slugged 12 homers, and led the team with 70 RBI’s. He signed quickly with the Dodgers and was sent to the Pioneer League where he had a solid professional debut, although he didn’t show much power. "Deano" was promoted to Great Lakes in 2011 and was the Loons main 1st baseman, but he had a terrible year at the plate. A .237 average and .657 OPS just don't play at the power position of 1st base. The only positive of Dean's season was that kept up his strong walk to strikeout ratio, which has been one of his trademarks since turning pro. Overall it doesn’t appear that Dean has the offensive ability to make it to the big leagues as a 1st baseman, but he’s still just 155 games into his professional career so he has time to turn it around. In fact, I could see Blake getting promoted to the Quakes in 2012 and having a big season in the hitter friendly league, so he shouldn’t be written off just yet. Finally, the best part about Blake Dean is this music video.
99. Justin Miller, RHP (23.2 IP in AA in 2011)
Drafted by Dodgers 2007, 6th round
6’2", 190 lbs, 24.5 years old
2-0, 7.23 ERA, 2.07 WHIP, 5.31 FIP, 5.32 K/9
Pre 2011 Rank: 45; Pre 2010 Rank: 54; Pre 2009 Rank: 48
Justin Miller’s 2011 season is a bit of a mystery to me. After a stellar 2010 season with the Lookouts where he posted a 2.76 ERA over 42.1 innings, the ground ball specialist got off to a very rocky start with Chattanooga in 2011 and then in early June he was then placed on the restricted list for the rest of the season. I can’t find why Miller was put on the restricted list or why he missed the rest of the season, but one can only hope that Justin returns to the organization in 2012 and is ready to pick up where he left off in 2010. To provide a little more background on Miller, Justin was considered to be one of the best community college pitchers available in the 2007 draft, yet he fell to the 6th round where the Dodgers gladly scooped him up. What probably scared most teams away was the fact that Miller actually spent more time in right field than on the mound during his final college season, as he developed a tender elbow. Nevertheless, he was hitting 94 on the radar gun before his injury, and at 6’3", the Dodgers felt like he had a very projectable frame. In his first three professional seasons, Miller was used strictly as a starter and had pretty disappointing results. His career win-loss record heading into 2010 was 11 – 26, and he was much too hittable. So the Dodgers decided to move Justin to the bullpen in 2010, and they have got to be pleased with his results. Starting the year in LoA, Miller recorded a 1.30 ERA through 34.2 innings and had an outstanding .208 batting average against. Given his success the Dodgers moved Miller up to AA where he wasn’t quite as dominant, but as mentioned above he continued to get the job done. After the 2010 season Justin was invited to participate in the AFL, and prior to the start of the Fall season DeJon Watson said about Miller: "We'll try to push the envelope with him. He has a sinking fastball. He's a ground-ball pitcher, and we want to get him prepared for next level. He'll probably start the season at Double-A. We want him facing better hitters here to understand the adjustments he'll need to make. He can be deceptive, and we want him to get to where hitters are chasing his pitches." Again I’m not sure what put Miller’s career on hold, but if he does return in 2012 he’ll probably get another chance in AA where he’ll continue to work out of the bullpen.
Follow the jump for #'s 98 - 91
98. Jose Dominguez, RHP (10 IP in Pioneer Rookie Lg, 43.2 IP in Arz Rookie Lg in 2011)
Signed by Dodgers 7/2/07
6’0", 160 lbs, 21.5 years old
4-4, 6.20 ERA, 1.49 WHIP, 3.87 FIP, 8.72 K/9
Pre 2011 Rank: 113; Pre 2010 Rank: 134; Pre 2009 Rank: 60
Signed for $50,000 as a 16 year old at the start of the 2007 international signing period, Jose Dominguez impressed scouts back then with a 90 mph fastball and a solid curve. At the time, Logan White said, "It’s rare to see a kid as polished as he is." In his professional debut in 2008, the then 17 year old Dominguez showed potential with an 11.8 K/9 through 42 innings in the DSL. In 2009 he also had a solid season, with a 3.64 ERA through 59 innings. However, after the 2009 season he received a 50-game suspension for violating the Minor League Drug Prevention and Treatment Program by testing positive for the performance-enhancing substance Stanozolol. So Dominguez sat out most of the 2010 season, but when he did return to the DSL that August he had an amazing run, posting a 1.13 ERA, 0.96 WHIP, and .191 batting average against in 24 innings. That was good enough to earn Jose a promotion to the Arizona Rookie League in 2011 where he ranked 2nd on the club with 43.2 innings pitched. He actually did very well with the Dodgers as he posted a 3.50 ERA and 1.17 WHIP over his 10 starts. So why was his overall season ERA so bad? Well Dominguez got promoted to the Pioneer League at the end of July, and in 3 starts he got crushed for 20 runs in just 10 innings. He returned to Arizona after his failed stint in Ogden and finished the season with the Dodgers. Overall, I do like Dominguez as a potential prospect since he is still young and seems to have good stuff on the mound. Obviously his suspension gives me some concern, but hopefully he’s learned his lesson. For 2012 I believe that Jose will probably get another shot with the Raptors, and he may even find his way into a full season league before the year is up.
97. Kazuki Nishijima, LHP (32.2 IP in Pioneer Rookie Lg in 2011)
Signed by Dodgers in November 2010
6’1", 190 lbs, 23 years old
2-1, 5.51 ERA, 1.41 WHIP, 3.60 FIP, 7.44 K/9
Pre 2011 Rank: 86; Pre 2010 Rank: N/A; Pre 2009 Rank: N/A
Kazuki Nishijima was signed by the Dodgers in November of 2010 out of Meiji University in Tokyo. To quote from the Dodger press release, "Nishijima, who spent his prep years at Yokohama High School -- former home to Boston's Daisuke Matsuzaka -- posted a 6-5 record and a 1.91 ERA during his collegiate career. Nishijima is just the second Japanese college player the Dodgers have ever signed." Keiichi Kojima, the Dodgers supervisor of scouting in Japan said "Nishijima is known for his curveball and his consistent arm slot. He locates fastballs on the lower part of the plate and induces a lot of ground balls." After working out in extended spring training, Kazuki made his professional debut in the Pioneer League with the Ogden Raptors and was used mostly as a long reliever. In 14 appearances Nishijima’s ERA wasn’t all that impressive, but he did show immaculate control which helped him post a FIP of 3.60. I’m guessing his consistent arm slot is what allowed him to issue just 2 walks for the season. Also, as advertised, he got quite a few ground balls. To complicate matters in his debut season, Kazuki had to adjust to life in the US for the first time, and was recently quoted as saying "I like American baseball culture, though Japanese fans and stadiums are very different from the United States. We don't talk much in a baseball stadium. We're kind of quiet, just watching the game. Here, in the U.S., people sometimes make fun of (the players), are more excited." Overall, while Nishijima’s fastball usually only sits in the high 80’s and tops out at around 91 mph, I think this lefty could be a sleep prospect for us heading into next year given that he has great control and is a sinkerball type pitcher. He’ll probably spend 2012 with the Loons and hopefully he’ll show improvement as he progresses through the system.
96. Malcolm Holland, 2B (25 games in Arz Rookie Lg in 2011)
Drafted by Dodgers 2011, 33rd round
5’11", 165 lbs, 19.75 years old, bats right handed
.159 average, .430 OPS, 0 HR’s, 3 RBI’s, 5 SB’s
Pre 2011 Rank: N/A; Pre 2010 Rank: N/A; Pre 2009 Rank: N/A
When the Dodgers selected Malcolm Holland in the 33rd round of the 2011 draft, I figured he’d be a tough sign. He had been recruited to play defensive back for Boise State (here are his senior season highlights), and given that he was picked in such a late round I figured he’d want to either play football or try and improve his draft position by playing ball at a junior college. As it turns out, the Dodgers were willing to give Holland a $160K contract while letting him play both for the Dodgers and for Boise State football, but the Broncos didn’t like the idea. According to Malcolm, "That's what I wanted to do. That's what the plan was. I talked to the Dodgers and they were fine with it. Boise wanted me to play one sport." So Holland took the money and gave up football, and made his professional debut in the Arizona Rookie League. As the club’s primary 2nd baseman Holland hit just .159 and made 8 errors in 24 games, but despite his dismal stats I’m not all that worried. Malcolm is extremely raw, having focused on multiple sports up until this point, and according to Logan White he has similar tools to Dee Gordon when he was drafted. He also did have one bright spot in his 2011 season as he showed a good eye by walking in 11.5% of his plate appearances. In 2012 I’m sure that Holland will spend another year in a rookie league, possibly spending the season as the Ogden Raptors 2nd baseman.
95. Jonathan Martinez, RHP (32.1 IP in DSL in 2011)
Signed by Dodgers before the 2011 season
6’1", 170 lbs, 17.75 years old
5-1, 1.67 ERA, 0.96 WHIP, 2.98 FIP, 8.63 K/9
Pre 2011 Rank: N/A; Pre 2010 Rank: N/A; Pre 2009 Rank: N/A
Unfortunately, I don’t know a lot about the youngest player in the Dodgers organization. According to his player profile he was born in Venezuela, but that is the only thing I can find about him other than his 2011 stats. Speaking of his 2011 season, J-Mart was absolutely dynamite in his professional debut. He played the entire season as a 17 year old, yet posted some of the best stats of anyone in the DSL. Outside of the numbers shown above, Martinez had a .168 batting average against and completely shut down right handed batters to the tune of a 0.99 ERA. The only caveat is that Jonathan threw just 32.1 innings, but that is only because he was so young and therefore the Dodgers wanted to ease his arm into game action. Given his age and limited use Martinez will almost certainly return to the DSL in 2012, but he will definitely be one of the players to watch in the Dominican next season.
94. Kazuya Takano, RHP (38.1 IP in Arz Rookie Lg in 2011)
Signed by Dodgers in November 2010
6’1", 170 lbs, 19.25 years old
3-3, 6.81 ERA, 1.64 WHIP, 5.13 FIP, 7.75 K/9
Pre 2011 Rank: 76; Pre 2010 Rank: N/A; Pre 2009 Rank: N/A
Kazuya Takano was the first Japanese high school player to sign with the Dodgers when he joined the team in November 2010. According to the Dodger press release after he inked his deal, "Takano, a senior at Buntoko High School in Kumamoto, Japan, has been highly evaluated by the Dodgers. [He] has a very smooth delivery and flexibility." After signing, Kazuya said "I've been working hard to make my dream to become a professional baseball player come true. I am very thankful to the Dodgers organization and I will work even harder to become a big leaguer as soon as possible." As expected Takano made his professional debut in the Arizona Rookie League in 2011, but unfortunately the youngster struggled through the season as he gave up 8 homers in just 38.1 innings for a 6.81 ERA. Overall he made 13 appearances, with 5 of those coming as starts. The good news is that Kazuya posted a relatively solid strikeout to walk ratio of 3 to 1, and of course the best thing he has going for him is his age. According to one article I found, Takano pocesses a fastball that tops out at around 90 mph, a decent slider, a curve, and a split-finger pitch. In 2012 I would guess that Kazuya will return to Arizona to get another year of experience under his belt, hopefully with better results.
93. Matt Shelton, RHP (26.1 IP in Pioneer Rookie Lg in 2011)
Drafted by Dodgers 2011, 24th round
6’4", 205 lbs, 23.25 years old
4-2, 2.05 ERA, 1.10 WHIP, 3.12 FIP, 10.25 K/9
Pre 2011 Rank: N/A; Pre 2010 Rank: N/A; Pre 2009 Rank: N/A
After pitching four years at Sam Houston State, Matt Shelton was selected by the Dodgers in the 24th round of the 2011 draft. In his four seasons with the Bearkats Shelton had some solid stats, including a 1.99 ERA as a reliever in 2009 (see the 1:18 mark of the video) and a 2.87 ERA through 94 innings as a starter in 2011. Matt signed quickly with the Dodgers and was assigned to the Ogden Raptors where he became one of the team’s best bullpen arms. While he was used somewhat sparingly due to his college workload, Shelton posted a 2.05 ERA and struck out over a batter per inning. He was especially effective against right handed batters who hit just .177 against him. In terms of his stuff on the mound, I wasn’t able to find a velocity reading on Shelton, but I’m guessing he throws relatively hard based on his 6’4" frame. I did find out, however, that he has a curveball and changeup in his repertoire. I would expect Shelton to play with the Loons next season where he should be a key piece of their bullpen. Similar to Shawn Tolleson, he could be another late round pick who moves quickly through the system.
92. Scott Wingo, 2B (32 games in Pioneer Rookie Lg, 7 games in Arz Rookie Lg in 2011)
Drafted by Dodgers 2011, 11th round
5’11", 175 lbs, 23 years old, bats left handed
.302 average, .950 OPS, 4 HR’s, 17 RBI’s, 7 SB’s
Pre 2011 Rank: N/A; Pre 2010 Rank: N/A; Pre 2009 Rank: N/A
Scott Wingo left South Carolina as a baseball hero. When you put his name into YouTube, you can find a ton of videos of him including this awesome song. He scored the winning run in the 2010 College World Series, then led the Gamecocks to another title in 2011 while being named the College World Series most outstanding player. His overall college stats in 2011 were a .338 average, 4 homers, and an outstanding .467 OB% thanks to a 44 to 36 walk to strikeout ratio. Upon signing with the Dodgers Wingo was sent to Arizona, but after hitting almost .500 he was promoted to the Pioneer League. He hit just .275 with the Raptors but managed to post an OPS of .922 thanks to another ridiculously high walk rate. He also matched his 2011 college total with 4 long balls and stole 7 bases to boot. From a pure tools standpoint I'm not sure that Wingo is much of a prospect, especially since he wasn’t drafted out of high school or after his junior year of college. That being said, Scott is a winner and an extremely hard worker so I wouldn't bet against him as he moves through the Dodgers system. He’ll most likely spend 2012 with the Loons, and I’ll bet that he becomes a fan favorite up in the Great Lakes region.
91. Tyler Ogle, C (6 games in Arz Rookie Lg in 2011)
Drafted by Dodgers 2011, 9th round
5’11", 193 lbs, 21.5 years old, bats right handed
.167 average, .333 OPS, 0 HR’s, 2 RBI’s, 0 SB’s
Pre 2011 Rank: N/A; Pre 2010 Rank: N/A; Pre 2009 Rank: N/A
Tyler Ogle played his college ball at Oklahoma, and actually took over the catching duties from fellow Dodger farmhand JT Wise. Like Wise, Ogle is an offensive minded catcher, and during his junior year with the Sooners Ogle hit .343 this season with 9 homers and 15 doubles in 201 at bats. Upon getting drafted, Tyler said "Obviously, I am excited to be drafted by the Dodgers’ organization and the opportunity to play pro baseball. However, I still have a year left to play at ... Oklahoma with the chance to graduate. So, I have a tough decision to make." After a relatively drawn out process, Ogle finally inked a deal with the Dodgers on August 9th for a reported $100K. Because he signed so late his professional debut lasted just 6 games, and he managed just 3 singles in 18 at bats. According to Baseball America’s pre-draft report, Ogle "makes consistent hard contact and has solid power from the right side of the plate, and he controls the strike zone well. He's a decent defender with fringy arm strength." Based on that report it seems like Tyler could have some value, although he’ll have to work hard if he wants to make it to the big leagues. Given his abbreviated debut I don’t think Ogle is ready for a full season league in 2012, so he’ll probably spend next year in the Pioneer League as the Raptors starting catcher.
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Dodgers rep kicked ass on Giants rep 17-3!
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by iiidown on Jan 25, 2012 7:04 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
woooooo!!!!
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 25, 2012 7:05 PM PST up reply actions
hah, just saw the Dodgers official tweet
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or Van Wingo Mungo as we call him.
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Clearly the PED of choice for trolls everywhere
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the preferred PED for MCC
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 25, 2012 7:40 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
INspired by our talk last thread
I listened to Darius Rucker’s country stuff. I’m very impressed.
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One of my wife’s favorites.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
Yeah. There’s a nice one about how cool it is that life doesn’t always turn out how you planned. Like “Unanswered Prayers,” but less Garthy.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
i love “Garthy”.
Still my favorite country artist ever of ever
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He was the first “country” artist I ever enjoyed, which broadened my horizons for the better. Quotes because, in retrospect, artists I’ve always enjoyed (at least a little bit) like the Eagles, CCR and Jimmy Buffett definitely are countryish.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Is Neko Case country? If so, I like her.
I like the country-ish stuff from The Byrds and The Flying Burrito Brothers.
Still chasing the dream of mediocrity
by Humma Kavula on Jan 25, 2012 8:44 PM PST up reply actions
Check out Hank Williams Sr.
He was awesome
It's gettin' so a businessman can't expect no return from a fixed fight. Now, if you can't trust a fix, what can you trust?
I can listen to the Pandora Johnny Cash station with only having to do a thumbs down about every fifth song.
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by meercatjohn on Jan 26, 2012 11:16 AM PST up reply actions
Yes
"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."
by Pure Azure on Jan 26, 2012 11:17 AM PST via Android app up reply actions
I never thought I’d become a country fan, but consider me a convert after the amazing time I had at Stagecoach last year. Of course, I’m the biggest freaking poser in the world, but I still get a kick out the sideways looks I get at stoplights when people realize that it’s me obnoxiously blasting country in my truck.
HAHA
Yeah, I guess I’ve always had a little red in my neck, but country music was the coup de grace.
Is there a word for redneck in Tagalog?
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Funny you should ask
From my experience, the older Filipino generation is as inherently prejudice as George Wallace. I guess it’s to be expected though when the homeland is as homogeneous as the Philippines is.
My apologies to all offended parties for equating “redneck” to “racist”.
It’s not like you said, “Country music now, country music tomorrow, country music forever!”
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by Humma Kavula on Jan 26, 2012 9:16 AM PST up reply actions
Moon River is OK by me. Johnny Mercer!
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by Humma Kavula on Jan 26, 2012 9:43 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Mercer and Mancini!
Is that the most famous Mercer song? Ac-Cent-Tchu-Ate the Positive? Jeepers Creepers?
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but that isn’t to say that I don’t like the fake pop country that real country “Gs” despise. I do find it funny that there’s country music elitism though.
I’m an old school George Strait guy whenever I do listen to country. I have been trying to get into the “fake pop country” you’re referring to because Jake was one of my best friends growing up. He was my catcher in Junior league.
"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"
That's awesome
Full disclosure: when Jake Owen comes on the radio (yes, I still listen to radio), I don’t change the station. I might roll up the windows, but I still listen.
The western swing band I like, The Hot Club of Cowtown, played at whatever that western saloon place in Culver City is called.
My wife and I were the only people in the place who were not dressed in western garb. I felt out of place.
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by Humma Kavula on Jan 26, 2012 9:09 AM PST up reply actions
Just about tip off
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15 minutes late
/doesn’t have cable
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Butler 8 Gasol 4
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wish there was a college named Gasol
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maybe in Spain
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 25, 2012 7:49 PM PST up reply actions
They will get going, we give away leads fairly quickly
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Phil fave
Jeff Keppinger with a career line of .324/.371/.481 against LHP?
Close to a deal with the Rays. Cool
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I think Butler is 4 of 5 and Griffin 4 of 4
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Maybe he didn’t really want to take and pass classes.
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Maybe, but dont the Dodgers pay for college anyway for any high schoolers they sign if baseball doesnt work out?
Maybe at 5’11" 165 he decided football wasn’t likely to work out in the long run.
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by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 11:14 PM PST up reply actions
They say Mauer has put back on the 30 lbs he lost last summer due to his illness
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which would be more fun?
Travelling with a major league team on a 10 day road trip.
or
Going on a concert tour with your favorite band.
< 30 Favorite Babnd
> 30 Major League Team
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concert tour is alot of work though
And i’d think travelling on a tour bus (while most i bet are really nice) would get pretty old after awhile. Though, a concert experience very night would have way more energy than a baseball game.
But the baseball road trip would be alot more easier and more luxurious i think
I think this is correct
under 30, sex, drugs, and rock and roll really can’t be beat
over 30, give me a good meal and a clean bed
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 10:10 PM PST up reply actions
definitely the road trip. It’d be worth it for the comped meals and luxury suites. You don’t handle your luggage in the show
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and
you hit white balls for batting practice
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 25, 2012 8:34 PM PST up reply actions
its gotta be really easy
Fly in a nice plane.
Stay at 5 star hotels.
Sleep in till 11 or noon
Meander on over to the ballpark by 3 or 4.
Leave ballpark at 10 or 11…drink at hotel bar.
Do same thing next day
reporters get to the field at 3. players get there at noon or 1. gotta get in your workout, bullpen session, training room work, it’s a long ass day.
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If I was still able to drink and the concert tour is only for 10 days as well then I’d probably choose the concert tour.
Even though I can’t drink I might still choose the concert tour. It would all depend on which team I’d be traveling with and what cities they were going to.
concert tour
would have better stories
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 10:07 PM PST up reply actions
What’s better, rock groupies or baseball annies?
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by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 11:15 PM PST up reply actions
I think Rock Groupies are probably more fun with less expectations
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 26, 2012 7:04 AM PST up reply actions
long term low yield tax free secured bond?
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 26, 2012 9:21 AM PST up reply actions
True or False: Every single one of our suggestions is better than whatever they will end up picking.
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by Humma Kavula on Jan 25, 2012 8:54 PM PST up reply actions
Finally — after all these many months — somebody has answered the “true or false” question correctly.
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by Humma Kavula on Jan 25, 2012 9:00 PM PST up reply actions
Tyler Ogle
really should be the guy scouting the stands.
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Old friend Wilson Valdez
was actually the subject of a trade:
Reds acquire from Phi Wilson Valdez for Jeremy HorstFrom the comments at that link, something pretty nifty:
As noted at TheGoodPhight, this is probably the first trade involving a position player with a perfect pitching record (1-0) and a pitcher with a perfect batting record (1 for 1) in MLB history.
by Phrozen on Jan 25, 2012 4:20 PM PST
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yeah seems about right
i’m guessing he’ll rank in a similar spot in Baseball America’s rankings. the MLB.com’s rankings also had Eovaldi at 70 and Webster at 79, so the top 3 Dodger prospects according to mlb.com are the same as BA, just in a slightly different order (BA has Webster at #2 and Eovaldi at #3)
by Brandon Lennox on Jan 25, 2012 10:24 PM PST up reply actions
TBLA voter also have it Lee, Webster, Eovaldi.
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by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 11:16 PM PST up reply actions
Pitching. I was trying to think of our hitting prospects (it’s hard for me to consider the lower level guys unless they’re blue-chip). Van Slyke, Silveiro, Castle? Pretty bleak group aside from the young outfielders. We could really use an impact infield prospect. if we suck this year, we’d better swap some departing talent for this need.
All the prospect mavens love Silverio the most. Van Slyke might turn out okay and Castellanos continues to outperform expectations. Lemmerman may be our best infield prospect and that says more about the system than it does Late Night. Sellers is obviously the one closest to the majors and IDJ has something about him that management doesn’t seem to care for.
There just aren’t many guys who can handle the middle infield defensively and hit at an above-MLB Replacement level. Plus, pitching depth is something that as soon as you think you have too much, you don’t have enough.
Otherwise I agree.
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What was Reg saying about Lee, that he would be in the 60s in most lists? I haven’t seen him above the mid 40s in any list I’ve seen so far.
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Yeah that’ll probably be wrong. It’s a lean year, and I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s where Lee ends up on good lists. (MLB.com is not one of these).
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by regfairfield on Jan 26, 2012 8:43 AM PST up reply actions
Webster might be the better pitcher yet Eovaldi might have more trade value. Flashy MPH and pretty decent ERA as a starter last year.
by Michael White on Jan 26, 2012 9:15 AM PST up reply actions
I can see Webster putting up really solid/attractive minor league numbers. He’s quite polished for his age. (Watch Gould be the best of all of them.)
I don’t think that’s too much of a stretch Kinbote. I think Gould will be great as well. I’m still banking on Lee being the #2 Dodgers pitcher for many years to come, whereas some of these other guys, while very good, could end up being trade bait for a bat.
"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"
I don’t see any of our minor leaguers as can’t-miss, even Lee. I have no problems with the stockpiling of quality arms and then letting Darwinism take over. I do worry to hell about our dearth of infielders.
problem with being filled with outfielders and pitchers is that you only have so many rotation spots/outfield spots and you could end up with 4 guys who need to play AA. How do you decide whose development to kick to the curb in favor of the other three playing at the appropriate level? Do you move one of them to first and squash his value? Do you try one of them out at 2B but ruin their offensive development because they’re spending so much of their time learning a new position (I’M LOOKING AT YOU CASTELLANOS)
"We'll see" said the Zen Master
I really like Gould
If I had to bet on Gould/Webster/Eovaldi, I’d take Gould. Though of the 5 of Lee/Webster/Eovaldi/Gould/Withrow, I still have the most hope for Withrow, despite the walks.
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I see video of Withrow and think “dude has a lot of work to do still”, but the timeline all fits for him to have a breakout season this year. I’d rather hope than be pessimistic, so if I had to put my hat on one side of the ring today, I’d say to watch out for a couple Withrow starts in MLB at the end of the year.
"We'll see" said the Zen Master
Yep. He’ll probably get a chance before Webster because of that.
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by regfairfield on Jan 26, 2012 11:04 AM PST up reply actions
He’s been in AA for a couple of years now, with more experience the year before, so he’s getting close to being MLB ready by the summer in my opinion. Sure, the walks are a problem. But there are a good number of pitchers the last few years who have walked a ton of guys but are still being average or better than average, production-wise.
If he can put up a pretty good showing in the first couple or few months, he might fight his way into a cup of coffee.
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it’s not about stats with him though. They totally changed his mechanics a couple years ago. His experience isn’t going to be facing hitters, it’s going to be simple repetition. Learning will happen, but repeatability is why his control is off. He has the stuff that once his mechanics stabilize, he’ll then be able to focus on the pitching side more.
"We'll see" said the Zen Master
He’ll get every chance to succeed in the rotation since he’s the number six starter right now and Capuano/Harang are both fairly injury prone. His ultimate place is in the bullpen but he picks up 10-15 starts this year.
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by regfairfield on Jan 26, 2012 9:04 AM PST up reply actions
which all frustrate you and me but please everyone who enjoys getting by on luck and poor performance being masked by ERA and no decisions.
"We'll see" said the Zen Master
Word of advice, Gary — if you write off the season, you won’t care how many starts Eovaldi gets.
Dive on in — the gin is ice cold.
Still chasing the dream of mediocrity
by Humma Kavula on Jan 26, 2012 9:18 AM PST up reply actions
I have neither tickets nor cable. For at least the 2012 season, I’m a drifter who simply checks the standings.
"We'll see" said the Zen Master
I’m sure i’ll go to a game, but I plan on spending my ticket money in Rancho instead since it’s like 4:1 on ticket prices.
"We'll see" said the Zen Master
and you have to take the 91
Gary will get to learn what its like being a dodger fan in OC.
Only a sith deals in absolutes.
He can go 101-134-210, but yeah traffic will still suck
by Eric Stephen on Jan 26, 2012 9:36 AM PST up reply actions
every time I think
“yeah going to Rancho games would be awesome!” I remember I would have to hit the 91 in rush hour, and my brain checks right out.
Only a sith deals in absolutes.
or he can take the train
and I can pick him up and we can go to the game together
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena
we scrapped it and got better internet. unless you’re giving me JUST the sports package for like $10 a month, it ain’t happening.
"We'll see" said the Zen Master
Lol, yeah, not happening
I don’t watch a ton of TV, but for what I watch I definitely need cable.
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some sort of proxy service
to make them think I live in uzbekistan and then get mlb.tv
Only a sith deals in absolutes.
I might actually ust try to vpn into my work to do it
since I don’t get blacked out here(it thinks i’m in phoenix I think).
Only a sith deals in absolutes.
i said this in my head but it didn’t translate to my fingers on the keyboard.
So my choice is 50 bucks a month for a whole cable package just to get dodger games, or watching the games i want to watch at the bar around the corner. We’ll see how it goes.
"We'll see" said the Zen Master
now remember, heretofore this bar has had multiple brewed beverages of varying quality that might enhance your enjoyment of this baseball game evermoreso than watching them on your computer box.
by Josie Becker on Jan 26, 2012 10:52 AM PST up reply actions
Yes but you can basically watch 2 games, maybe 3, per month at said bar, or for the same $50 you can watch all the games plus other programming.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 26, 2012 10:53 AM PST up reply actions
yeah but i don’t watch anything but dodger games. all my enetertainment/leaisure time is on the PS3 or PC gaming. Sitcoms don’t do it for me and i watch movies on netflix.
"We'll see" said the Zen Master
people have different priorities
I would drive with no car insurance if money for cable was an issue.
So you’d break the law.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Pirates use TiVo, they like when it goes blo-doop as you fast forward
by Josie Becker on Jan 26, 2012 11:04 AM PST up reply actions
I enjoy that you’re doing all of this in a box where I don’t exist and my opinion apparently doesn’t matter.
We’re getting cable when baseball season starts.
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena
by Maddz on Jan 26, 2012 12:41 PM PST up reply actions 8 recs
since when does “Voice of reason” translate to “Power Base”?
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 26, 2012 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
When it is the female half of a couple. As a married man, you know this!
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I’ve had mlb.tv the last two years and it kind of sucks anyways. I’ve had less service disruptions with MiLB.tv than the big league version.
I don't know how much you pay for cable
but you can buy a tv antenna for 10 bucks that will give you great signal, and then buy cable shows ala cart online. If you don’t watch many shows you can probably do that for pretty cheap if you combine it with hulu.
Only a sith deals in absolutes.
well, yeah.
"We'll see" said the Zen Master
by G.Scott on Jan 26, 2012 9:30 AM PST up reply actions 3 recs
“why is a doctor the only person allowed to diagnose me with cancer? what a racket”
by Josie Becker on Jan 26, 2012 9:34 AM PST up reply actions
get back to me when he has a PHD in baseball
actually get back to me when they offer a PHD in baseball, I want in on the ground floor of that.
Only a sith deals in absolutes.
Whine whine whine
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 26, 2012 9:40 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions 1 recs
Comparatively, I have done everything in baseball that a PhD student would be required to do in their respective field. I at least have an MBB
"We'll see" said the Zen Master
i didn’t say i’ve done everything in baseball. i’m saying i’ve done everything a phd student would be required to do ☺
"We'll see" said the Zen Master
I peed on my leg after I cut it on fire coral while surfing
does that count?
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 26, 2012 9:52 AM PST up reply actions
Greg Maddux says
that you are supposed to pee on your teammates’ legs in the shower.
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I would think a comparison to a PHD would be at least 3 – 4 years of MiLB. You would be more like a bachelor’s no?
two yars of pro scout ball, 3 years of college ball, two years of college recruitment scouting and advanced scouting, I think I’m qualified enough to post an opinion on a blog and have it be taken into account. Not saying I’m never wrong, scouting is inherently a study in being wrong less of the time than someone with less knowledge and still needing to be somewhat lucky, but I certainly know enough for my opinion to count for a little more.
"We'll see" said the Zen Master
I’m confused because not too long ago you said you wish you could get a job in pro scouting? And then you were telling me about how the guy who was your coach in high school was a pro scout, and told you all about the scouting process, but you never actually scouted?
Gary, do you want to be a scout professionally?
by UCLADodger32 on Jan 26, 2012 10:06 AM PST up reply actions
My best friend interned with the Red Sox last year and is now full time in their international and amateur scouting dept. I’ll tell him to keep the lookout for something available throughout baseball. Getting into that business is all connections, so who knows, he might have an in eventually and can help you out.
by UCLADodger32 on Jan 26, 2012 10:14 AM PST up reply actions
Thanks!
I’m working my own connections now to see what is out there. With it being so close to the season i’m not sure how much of their hiring they still need to do.
"We'll see" said the Zen Master
They get a lot done at Winter Meetings so you really need to get out there next year.
Also keep an eye on this. A friend of mine just got hired full time by the Blue Jays so I’ll put a word in.
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by regfairfield on Jan 26, 2012 10:18 AM PST up reply actions
Its interesting that a lot of those jobs in the FO
Are now computer science/programming related.
Ya, its a jungle. His dad knows a bunch of people, so he was lucky and had interviews with a number of teams. Most people just go to the winter meetings and sit in the lobby holding their resumes trying to get an interview.
by UCLADodger32 on Jan 26, 2012 10:18 AM PST up reply actions
With or Without
Connections, for almost anything it is just get in and start working hard.
by bhsportsguy on Jan 26, 2012 10:17 AM PST up reply actions
My prime concern (and frankly, the reason I haven’t pursued it professionally) is turning something I love into a job. Sometimes knowing the back side of something takes the joy out of it.
"We'll see" said the Zen Master
Ya. And it really is a hard life. Long, long hours, the pay sucks, can be hard to move up. A lot of “old boys club” mentality with unqualified people getting jobs and promotions, etc.
by UCLADodger32 on Jan 26, 2012 10:31 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah. I think I’m okay with not being a scout/GM. I don’t need to be watching my back every second, and I’d rather spend time with my family than with a video room and a spreadsheet.
It’s why it’s a dream job.
"We'll see" said the Zen Master
Thats the reason why I didnt get into it. Being a Gm is the dream job for me, but the sacrifices you have to make and the slim chance of getting there just didnt make sense for me.
Although, if my buddy eventually gets there, I’ll be on the payroll somehow!
by UCLADodger32 on Jan 26, 2012 10:36 AM PST up reply actions
I don’t even know where I’d begin to start being an agent. Probably as an intern for an established firm. But from what I’ve been told you practically need a law background for that.
"We'll see" said the Zen Master
just bang on the door at CAA, demand to see someone : )
by Josie Becker on Jan 26, 2012 10:41 AM PST up reply actions
“you should let me be your agent”
“what firm do you work for?”
“gary scott llc”
“never heard of you, how many clients do you have?”
“you’d be getting in on the ground floor!”
"We'll see" said the Zen Master
That was my idea in going to law school. I had a connection to a big time agent (made very famous recently by Deadspin), so I thought it would be practical. But the more I learned about the business, the more disgusted and disenchanted I became with it. I’d much rather deal with criminals and gang bangers (being a DA) than other agents.
by UCLADodger32 on Jan 26, 2012 10:41 AM PST up reply actions
yeah, it’s really just such a shady industry, i’d hate to ruin the image of baseball that I enjoy now.
"We'll see" said the Zen Master
And the sad thing is that working in the game in most capacities will do that to you. Really, being a coach or instructor to kids is probably the best way to stay connected to the game and in a way where you can enjoy it.
by UCLADodger32 on Jan 26, 2012 10:50 AM PST up reply actions
I was considering volunteering/interning for the Quakes or something as a pitching coach if i didn’t get a job, but I think this financial advisor thing may work out for me.
"We'll see" said the Zen Master
Hopefully it does. Shit, just thinking about my job future makes me want to vomit.
by UCLADodger32 on Jan 26, 2012 10:56 AM PST up reply actions
Hell, if it REALLY works out, i’ll just join a group and buy the team and insert myself as GM :)
"We'll see" said the Zen Master
There you go! Then it really would be like having a fantasy team.
by UCLADodger32 on Jan 26, 2012 11:01 AM PST up reply actions
I was eating dinner one evening with my family at a great local restaraunt called Bandits, when I overheard the conversation behind me between what appeared to be an agent with an 18-ish kid and his parents. The guy was talking about the kids options of entering the draft or going to college. It was a pretty interesting eavsdrop. The guy sounded like a salesman but that is not necessarily a bad thing. I assumed it had to be a baseball player (HS or JC). Kind of made me think of the same questions that you brought up, about how to get in on the ground floor.
I’d rather spend time with my family
This feels like a clue to something….
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At least it will be better than Antoninimania
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by regfairfield on Jan 26, 2012 9:50 AM PST up reply actions
Waiting on the group of children who become darvish fans and go to games calling themselves the Yutes.
"We'll see" said the Zen Master
by G.Scott on Jan 26, 2012 10:01 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I see splinter groups coming
The highly conservation Yutes versus the ecstatic Whirling Darvishes
sounds like centuries of holy war to me
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 26, 2012 10:04 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I'd like to think of it as Lee doing good and not dropping down :)
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yay, Lakers win
really needed this one
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 25, 2012 10:15 PM PST reply actions
Spread
was 3.5 in Vegas and 6 on the SRS. Gasol missed that last free throw. Tough stretch of road games coming up for the Lakers. Might see the Clippers turn the corner and get some separation in the standings here.
Not really
Clips have Memphis, Denver and OKC while the Lakers have Milwaukee, Minnesota and Charlotte. After those, both go on the road for the annual February Grammy road trips.
“Im not one of his kids”
Don’t touch Beltre’s head either.
by Lex in Brooklyn on Jan 26, 2012 7:24 AM PST up reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6WHjTOTu2M&feature=share
I want you guys to check out this link …. it’s the video my little brother just made for the college coaches he’s being recruited by. I’ll post it again later so Eric, Phil and everyone can see.
"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"
Don’t post the link in the subject Joe.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 26, 2012 7:45 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6WHjTOTu2M&feature=share
"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"
That’s better :)
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 26, 2012 7:46 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
He’s been contacted personally by the Gators head coach and he’s gotten letters from the following schools requesting this video
Maryland
Delaware
FSU
Miami
FAU
UCF
Stetson
Gamecocks SC
"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"
that’s awesome! I hear playing for Miami is a kick, and obviously SC is a great program. Just make sure he goes somewhere where he knows he’ll start, rather than somewhere with a good name. That is, if he wants to play after college.
"We'll see" said the Zen Master
I like SC program, my buddy went there and ended up playing in the Pirates organization. My Brother really likes UCF, they are really up and coming and they have poured a ton of dough into their baseball complex.
What I wouldn’t have gave to have been 190 lbs in High School. I had 5 homeruns at 150 lbs, then had a few in college at 165. At 190 it would have been a whole different story. Woulda coulda should….too little too late….literally
"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"
Great Joe, you should be his agent or his “drop hands” man.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
Either throw hands or drop trou, I say.
Actually, I say no such thing. I have never thrown hands in my life, but I have been known to drop a line or two.
Still chasing the dream of mediocrity
by Humma Kavula on Jan 26, 2012 9:05 AM PST up reply actions
LOL. I was there to just watch, thinking my hot headedness wouldn’t surface. Then watching your blood get clocked with a clean shot in the jaw brought me to a rage I’ve never felt before. The aftermath was ugly.
"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"
my older brothers were sadist
they arranged fights for me against the neighborhood kids
I was suspended for fighting 6 or 7 times growing up
I have kicked an ass and also had the good fortune of taking one really shaming ass kicking.
Getting your ass kicked, if you can do it without having any lasting damage, is a great lesson in life. I heartily endorse it once!
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 26, 2012 9:13 AM PST up reply actions
I agree HJ. It’s a humbling experience but one that everyone should have at least once. I was the eldest brother of the three. I can bet anything that they may have been sadist but at the end of the day absolutely adored you. I always have thought that the youngest brother gets blessed with the very best talents that their older brother individually possessed.
My youngest brother is the complete package. Ball Player, 3.9 GPA, hottest girl in school on his arm. That little fucker scored the trifecta!
"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"
I am not a big man
but I am much bigger than my older brothers
god is kind that way
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 26, 2012 9:24 AM PST up reply actions
Gary- his mechanics both in the field and at the plate are almost identical to how mine were, he’s just 30 lbs bigger. I think he profiles as a 2B long term although he’s a SS now. The kid has some pop. He’s led the conference in HR for two years running now. Our HS is very competitive and it’s the largest class in the state. They range from 1A to 6A.
"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"
cool beans Joe
I’m no expert on this stuff, but I think he looks good. Lots of luck to him!
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 26, 2012 7:54 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Thanks Tommy! Aren’t you the Eminem fan on here?
"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"
I don't think I'm the only one
But yes, I am an Eminem fan
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 26, 2012 8:06 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
It was just announced today that “Slaughterhouse” will drop their album on May 10th and it’s called “My House”. Em should be all over it. Also Obie Trice has an album coming out in February and Em is on it. The track is called “Richard”.
"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"
Cool
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 26, 2012 8:16 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Looks good Joe
I like how compact his swing is, would like to see it against live pitching to see how he handles different areas of the zone, but get the sense he has good bat control and can go to all fields
hands look good in the field – playing the ball off the inside heel of his left leg which I like – he does take some extra steps before the crow hops on some throws, but most ballplayers do that during practice – I’d guess he is likely more economical in his footwork with a live runner
the kid clearly has talent, looks to be very comfortable, and has a nice middle IF body. I think you are right thinking 2B for him
good luck to him!
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 26, 2012 9:10 AM PST up reply actions
great analysis HJ. His pitch recognition is great, I think he’s a college hitter now. Your comment about fielding off the inside heel of his left leg was my only qualm about his defensive mechanics. I thought there were a few balls he didn’t do that enough. It’s a great habit to get into because it always keeps your momentum going left which results in a better line to first and more ass on the ball.
"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"
Besides look for a new job, is there anything you can do if an employer breaks your contract about hours/salary?
The American way is to kill your boss and 2 to 3 other employee’s who had nothing to do with the squabble. Make sure to eat a twinkie on your way to work.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
by meercatjohn on Jan 26, 2012 8:07 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
HR will get legal involved, and if they don’t, you should. But that’s HR’s area to handle.
"We'll see" said the Zen Master
I've been told HRs job is to protect the company
not you. Get your own counsel perhaps.
Only a sith deals in absolutes.
Nolander's advice is not bad
not everywhere is that smart, to get that by protecting the employee they look out for the company
never trust HR fully is my advice
I have seen HR departments screw and lie to workers to protect the company, and mostly get away with it
I have also seen really good HR
your mileage may vary
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 26, 2012 9:33 AM PST up reply actions
depends if you want to take this to defcon 4 or not
but you can see if your claim falls under the purview of the Labor relations board
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 26, 2012 9:31 AM PST up reply actions
That was a great game, I’d think Laker fans had to heartened by a team win over a solid team. Might have been Blake Griffin’s best offensive game though he seems mind fucked at the foul line right now.
Nice to see D Fisher hitting some key three’s again. MTP seemed useful, McRoberts not so much.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
I didn’t see it but followed along with it on gamechannel for parts. It looked like the Clippers had it for sure.
Facebook battles ensued.
"We'll see" said the Zen Master
got her first 4.0 last semester, rockin it this semester, checking out PhD programs now.
"We'll see" said the Zen Master
That’s awesome! So proud of her. They don’t call her Maddie 2 Dope for nothing!
"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"
I believe the list of potential PhD programs is down to 6: UPenn, Oxford, Berkeley, UC Santa Barbara, UWashington, and Princeton.
I don’t know where the hell I’m living next year.
"We'll see" said the Zen Master
I know…..I’ve been calling her that for over a year now! I wish my nickname was Joey 2 Dope instead of Jo Jo
"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"
I’m pretty sure you don’t.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
for a long time I used to say, as a joke "I wish I had a sweet nickname like “Cool Breeze, it would be awesome…blah, blah, blah”
at some point my friends got tired of the joke and started calling me “Cool Breeze at the most humiliating times”
that became the new joke
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 26, 2012 9:18 AM PST up reply actions
strange use of closed quotes there – I really should either
A) not post when I am on the phone and having a real conversation
or
B) not post when I am on the phone and having a real conversation
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 26, 2012 9:23 AM PST up reply actions
Im just happy you arent going to tell me to eat the corner, motherfucker….. but yeah, I agree, was a good game. IMO most exciting game the Lakers have played in this year so far, playoff like feel, gotta love physical basketball, or whatever that was.
Griffen was on fire, I was pissed when he hit that outside shot with shot clock running down, I thought it was a 3 at first though….He doesnt normally shoot that well does he? and Mo Fuckin Williams, I swear, I wish we could get this guy, he’s been a pain in our ass. I almost feel like if Mo Williams started and played most the game at PG, we’d have lost.
I'm just glad the Lakers played hard down the stretch
Loved the way Pau played too
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 26, 2012 8:29 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
yeah I agree, was nice to see Artest too, hit that big 3, maybe play of the game?? anyways, wish Artest would bring that intensity every day.
Metta World Peace played like Ron Artest last night. Remember when Artest used to KILL the Lakers when he was on the Rockets and Kings?
Yes I remember, which is why its so frustrating he hasnt played that well with us. I dont remember him every being such a lousy shooter. But I think its because he hasnt been 100% focused since he got here. Being out of shape doesnt help. Wish he would just focus on his body, and basketball.
as Pau goes the Lakers go
scary but true
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 26, 2012 9:18 AM PST up reply actions
yeah man, finally someone unexpected steps up and contributes… Never thought we’d miss Steve Blake so much, but we do.
Seriously. If the Lakers had just one guy who could consistently come off the bench, shoot 3’s and score like 10 – 14 points, they’d be fine.
Right?
I always wished the Lakers had a Bobby Jackson/Eddie House-type of gunner who’d come off the bench and light up the other team’s second unit.
yeah but seems like everytime Lakers do add a shooter, they dont work out. I assume its because there isnt enough shots available, and so they cant ever really get into a good rhythm
That why they need a guy who can create their own shot and not just stand there like worthless Kapono.
yes, thats what Kenny Smith said, he feels Lakers are one 6’3 guard that can create his own shot away from being a legit contender. I pretty much agree.
by uschris0304 on Jan 26, 2012 10:02 AM PST up reply actions
yeah
I’d like them to give Elijah Millsap a shot. He’s doing well in D League
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 26, 2012 10:03 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
That stuff doesn’t work very well without a good point guard who can collapse the defense. When is the last time the Lakers had one of those. I can remember back to the Glen Rice days. Everyone thought he’s be the answer. But the guy could only shoot if he was wide open and like Kopono would just stand around. Teams with quick point guards like Orlando can really help the three point shooters by penetrating and kicking out. Lakers have done very little of that the last 10 years.
Yeah I agree, PG has been a need for a long time, and has never been filled for whatever reason. Id say the last time was probably Van Exel, and that was a long time ago.
by uschris0304 on Jan 26, 2012 10:09 AM PST up reply actions
I love
when someone bakes brownies and they tell me to “eat the corner, motherfucker”
the corner is really the best part – you get two crispy edges
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 26, 2012 9:27 AM PST up reply actions
Assistance Requested
I recently put up a fanpost looking for some help with planning my first trip out to LA. If some of you could provide me with some helpful hints, I’d greatly appreciate it.
Thanks!
I’m jealous….I hope you have a blast out there. Steer clear of Rihanna, she’ll make you have a down year.
"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"
please tell me at least one person has watched that Blake Dean video and now has that song stuck in their head
I finally watched it. Hahahaha
I’m just glad it wasn’t country music.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 26, 2012 9:33 AM PST up reply actions
so then
The biggest FA bat right now is Cespedes then?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 26, 2012 9:18 AM PST via iPhone app reply actions
Wow, look at that sentence. The language queen shall have my head.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 26, 2012 9:19 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
it’s true, but I think he’d have to go to AA first and given what he’ll be paid, it’d be silly.
"We'll see" said the Zen Master
very shocked
They haven’t even scouted him. I’m just curious where he ends up
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 26, 2012 9:41 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Read an article saying they hadn’t. Think it was on Yahoo
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 26, 2012 9:50 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Si, Cespedes
It's gettin' so a businessman can't expect no return from a fixed fight. Now, if you can't trust a fix, what can you trust?
Have to say I am surprised
that we may have 91 players in the system better than Wingo.
Also, Jonathan Martinez sounds like someone to keep track of.
for Wingo
the fact that he didn’t get drafted after high school or even after his junior year of college is a bit of a red flag. and really he didn’t seem like an 11th rounder to me and we probably could have gotten him in a later round. like i said i wouldn’t count him out, but to me his ceiling is maybe a Justin Sellers and the chances of him reaching that ceiling probably aren’t all that high
by Brandon Lennox on Jan 26, 2012 9:43 AM PST up reply actions
Ricky Rubio
Is making me consider buying the NBA package
this comes as a total and absolute shock to me
I forget…can you currently get Prime Ticket Dodger games or no?
by Eric Stephen on Jan 26, 2012 10:05 AM PST up reply actions
yes
I recently got MLBN, but I believe Extra Innings has been available for a while. My wife told me to get it many years ago but I think I said, “There’s enough baseball on already.” GFM.
It's a tough choice
If you watch enough baseball other than Dodgers games, it’s definitely worth it. Not sure if it would be worth it to purchase for just the KCAL Dodgers games (assuming you can’t get those now).
by Eric Stephen on Jan 26, 2012 10:14 AM PST up reply actions
dude throws like 91 now and throws his slider 70% of the time. He gone.
"We'll see" said the Zen Master
Reminds me of all the “Tom Brady” parody songs that were played on the sports radio station this morning, all played to the tune of some other song. Like – “Once, Twice, Three Times for Brady”.
Still struck out 10 per nine doing that.
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by regfairfield on Jan 26, 2012 10:04 AM PST up reply actions
He’s basically Mike MacDougal x 2 now so getting him for the cost of Mike MacDougal seems fine.
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by regfairfield on Jan 26, 2012 10:05 AM PST up reply actions
Dodgers secretly bid big on Prince.
Although they managed to stay under the radar all the while, the Los Angeles Dodgers pushed hard for weeks to try to sign Prince Fielder and thought for a while they might have a legitimate shot at their own secret signing. The Dodgers were a surprise entrant in the sweepstakes, making a major push to sign the star slugger with an offer that guaranteed him seven years but provided a sweet four-year opt-out. And for a couple weeks, they looked like a real possibility for Prince.
More:
The Dodgers’ offer was said to have called for an average salary of about $26 million for the first four years and something in the low $20-million-range in the next three years. The bid was designed not to discourage Fielder from opting out and possibly moving to the American League where he could DH after the first four years. The total Dodgers deal was believed to have been worth in the low $160 millions.
Opt out in 4 years when he is still 31 or 32ish?
That would seem like a sweet deal to me. Oh well.
Only a sith deals in absolutes.
interesting
Hell, if they were gonna do that, why not make a run at La Potencia?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 26, 2012 10:06 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Is that the nickname for Cespedes, or is this someone new?
by Eric Stephen on Jan 26, 2012 10:07 AM PST up reply actions
Cespedes
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 26, 2012 10:14 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
I rather have not known this info, now it really hurts worse.
by uschris0304 on Jan 26, 2012 10:10 AM PST up reply actions
haha yeah, it was alot easier to get over thinking we didnt even try because Frank is a buster, yet a buster on his way out the door. Now knowing he’d be a Dodger basically if V Mart never gets hurt, or Tigers never enter the picture, makes me depressed. Fuck im sad right now.
by uschris0304 on Jan 26, 2012 10:16 AM PST up reply actions
If it wasn’t for him then The Big Fed Machine wouldn’t exist, so I’m okay with it.
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by regfairfield on Jan 26, 2012 10:07 AM PST up reply actions
Maybe it works out for us
The way it worked out for the Red Sox when they almost had A-Rod before Aaron Boone tore up his knee, forcing the Yankees into bidding. Maybe just missing out on Fielder opens the door for Votto?
So how did Heyman find all of this out now, and he knew nothing when it would have been relevant information?
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by regfairfield on Jan 26, 2012 10:08 AM PST up reply actions
people familiar with the negotiations told Danny Knobler of CBSSports.com.
Only a sith deals in absolutes.
could be no one wanted to say anything until negotiations where over
Only a sith deals in absolutes.
we’ll never know
if this is information or misinformation
it just is
and we mostly never know
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 26, 2012 10:10 AM PST up reply actions
Like when it comes out tomorrow that they bid 10 years $259M for Pujols but the Angels beat their offer by $2M. Oh well, so close. Adam Kennedy it is then.
by Xeifrank on Jan 26, 2012 10:16 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Depends when Boras told him I guess.
From Boras’s perspective at least, it props up the Dodgers as a viable bidder to other teams, even if they weren’t involved.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 26, 2012 10:10 AM PST up reply actions
I believe the Dodgers tried very hard to make it look like they tried very hard to sign him.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
by Nolij on Jan 26, 2012 10:21 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
I heard they were making a offer last friday. Prince Fielder will be paid more than AGON, maybe we lucked out
I personally think there’s room for disagreement on whether our offer was a legitimate attempt to add him or a sniffing-around-the-edges attempt to show interest/appease the fanbase. I have less information than you have, and it’s an easy position to defend when the result is already known, but I do think there is at least uncertainty as to how serious we were. I refuse to think of this as “we were outbid by Detroit.” Boras is famous for not even listening to offers unless they are in his sweet spot. I’m not sure we were that close.
@TBrownYahoo:
The Dodgers met with Fielder and his reps in Dallas, sorta halfway between LA and Orlando, where they laid out their plan. #almostworkedtoo
The plan was to document that they had a meeting. I hope they kept the receipts and took pictures. Maybe even planted a gps tracking device on Prince’s belly.
Shit, this sounds like a legitimate attempt, not just putting something out there for the sake of it.
Sounds like
Peeing on the fire coral of public opinion to me
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 26, 2012 10:34 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Vegas now has the Tigers as being the big favorites for WS Champs…..hard to argue with the best 3/4 offensive output & Ace in baseball.
"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"
It’s pretty easy. Prince-Victor is like two wins and Johnny Peralta, Doug Fister and Alex Avila probably won’t go crazy again.
The Tigers are easily the best team in the central but they might not even be in the top five in the AL.
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by regfairfield on Jan 26, 2012 10:10 AM PST up reply actions
Hell I’d take an even money bet that the 2012 Tigers will win less than the 2011 Tigers.
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by regfairfield on Jan 26, 2012 10:11 AM PST up reply actions
Couldn't David Stern have blocked the deal?
Cabrerea and Prince? Thats not fair!
by Lex in Brooklyn on Jan 26, 2012 10:49 AM PST up reply actions
I guess thats because they are almost automatically in the playoffs. Wouldnt take their roster over 3 or 4 of the other AL team, but the central just sucks so badly.
by UCLADodger32 on Jan 26, 2012 10:12 AM PST up reply actions
Keep in mind the Cubs are like 6 to 1. Way too many people are just betting based on a 95 win team adding Prince.
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by regfairfield on Jan 26, 2012 10:14 AM PST up reply actions
No such bet exists, but if you bet every single other team you’d get clobbered by the vig. Might be able to squeeze out a few pennies by betting only the other top 10 teams besides the Tigers and hope someone like the Marlins don’t squeek in.
i don’t understand what getting clobbered by the vig means. I should stay away from gambling
"We'll see" said the Zen Master
It sounds like a way to get a venereal disease.
by UCLADodger32 on Jan 26, 2012 10:21 AM PST up reply actions
Bet $11 to win $10 on the Super Bowl. Pick your team. But instead you choose to bet $11 on both teams. You are gauranteed a win this way. So you win $10 on the one bet and lose $11 on the other. The vig ate your $1. There is a lot of vig on futures bets, like which team will win the W.S. All the odds of all the teams do not add up to 100%. They add up to something like 150%.
More confirmation re: Fielder
Tim Brown @TBrownYahoo
The Dodgers met with Fielder and his reps in Dallas, sorta halfway between LA and Orlando, where they laid out their plan. #almostworkedtoo
I don’t think anyone has brought up the fact that (Dodgers legend) Daryle Ward was suspended for PEDs. I had no idea that he was even vaguely resembling a current ballplayer.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Daryl Wards OPS+ by year. Find when he was on the Dodgers!
99
94
91
9
99
89
143
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by regfairfield on Jan 26, 2012 10:45 AM PST up reply actions
I used to absolutely flip out every time he came in to pinch hit
by Michael White on Jan 26, 2012 11:18 AM PST up reply actions
It seems we all have our own personal hell when it comes to pinch hitters
Going back to 2007 it started with Saenz and his rapid decline, then the trade for Sweeney, then 2008 was a nightmare, 2009 Loretta comes in and does nothing after early May until the hit that made him a Dodger legend in my eyes, then GA in 2010, then finally (and miserably) Navarro last year.
I think Adam Kennedy will be our new primary pinch hitter from hell.
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I’m told Ned Colletti and Alex Tamin of the #Dodgers visited Scott Boras’ office in Newport Beach about a week ago.
So we were fairly close to having Prince as our 1B. I hope I am not reminded of that while watching Loney hit.
This almost has a SC loss to Texas, Lakers losing in the finals, Dodgers losing the WS kinda feel….. Now im going to dream that V Mart never tears his ACL, and Dodgers sign Fielder tonight, only to wake up excited, then realize that harsh reality.
by uschris0304 on Jan 26, 2012 10:48 AM PST up reply actions
You don’t remember the Dodgers losing in the WS.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
True I dont, but I bet its a crushing feeling, if it feels anything like the other losses ive felt. When is life as a Dodger fan ever going to get better? We coulda been a contender…. I cant take this abuse much longer lol
by uschris0304 on Jan 26, 2012 10:53 AM PST up reply actions
While I remain steadfast in that signing Prince would be a mistake, I think the contract they were reportedly trying to offer was the perfect way to go about it.
Also, the fact that he signed with Detroit gives me hope that we can get Cabrera, who has long been one of my faves.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
I dont think either will be a Dodger
by Lex in Brooklyn on Jan 26, 2012 10:52 AM PST up reply actions
I could see Votto happening. The same reasons the Red Sox and Yankees didn’t bid on Pujols and Fielder will still be there in two years, and now the Angels and Tigers are out as well.
"We'll see" said the Zen Master
I think the Reds will extend him if they win at all this year
by Lex in Brooklyn on Jan 26, 2012 10:56 AM PST up reply actions
My Reds fan friends all tell me Votto could have just a decent next two years and still be priced out of the Reds budget. I disagree and think they’ll try to make room for him, but I hope they’re right.
"We'll see" said the Zen Master
Yeah I have no idea of course but it just seems like the Reds are trying to win over the fan base and follow the Brewers model, and I think they will try and Make Votto their Ryan Braun.
by Lex in Brooklyn on Jan 26, 2012 11:00 AM PST up reply actions
what do you do if Jay Bruce breaks out?
I think they’ll essentially have to choose between Phillips and Votto, and I think by trading Alonso they’ve made their choice.
"We'll see" said the Zen Master
Yeah, that is my fear. By trading Alonso they kinda put their support behind Votto for the long haul, it would seem.
Yeah, Votto v Phillips is an obvious choice, and the Alonso deal was certainly an indicator. I think Votto is the guy, even if Bruce has a big year.
by Lex in Brooklyn on Jan 26, 2012 11:07 AM PST up reply actions
Bruce is wrapped up till 2016, doesn’t really matter.
I think Phillips isn’t gonna be that expensive (is he really that much better than Orlando Hudson when he hit free agency) and even if they re-sign him, I wouldn’t put them out of the running for Votto.
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by regfairfield on Jan 26, 2012 11:12 AM PST up reply actions
Phillips isn’t coming off a wrist injury that no one has ever tried to play with before, let alone two wrist injuries no one has ever tried to play with before. Also, while both are loud personalities, BPhillips isn’t a prick.
"We'll see" said the Zen Master
Prick or not, I’ll always love remembering Hudson going back on flies to shallow right center in Dodger blue.
by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Jan 26, 2012 11:18 AM PST up reply actions
I think that’s what G is inferring. I have no idea personally. Though getting benched for 2 months for Belliard makes you wonder. As does a new team every year.
by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Jan 26, 2012 11:22 AM PST up reply actions
so great. He was good enough that people wondered if he’s why Dre’s UZR was so low.
"We'll see" said the Zen Master
The scientific method at work.
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by regfairfield on Jan 26, 2012 11:20 AM PST up reply actions
I dont remember if the line of thinking was supported by how the system works or not
"We'll see" said the Zen Master
It does in theory but not nearly as much as people claimed and Andre’s defense without Hudson blows that theory out of the water.
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by regfairfield on Jan 26, 2012 11:22 AM PST up reply actions
That and watching Dre play defense
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by regfairfield on Jan 26, 2012 11:22 AM PST up reply actions
I remember Hudson's OOZR was pretty intense
And he had to take a good number of catches away from Andre.
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Fair.
Thing is that second basemen really don’t get paid (the highest free agent contract for one since 2003 is either Juan Uribe or Luis Castillo depending on how you want to define that) and while Phillips will totally get paid more than them I’d be shocked if he got a contract worth over 50 million.
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by regfairfield on Jan 26, 2012 11:19 AM PST up reply actions
Never reached free agency.
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by regfairfield on Jan 26, 2012 11:21 AM PST up reply actions
Bruce ($5M), Cueto ($4.6M), and Votto (+$7.5M) are due for raises after the 2012 season. They just picked up Phillips option for $12M, so if they keep him, I can’t imagine him asking for less than that.
The Reds are looking at a $100M+ payroll after next year if they want to keep the band together.
My guess is that Votto, Cueto, and Latos stay
by Lex in Brooklyn on Jan 26, 2012 11:26 AM PST up reply actions
I don’t know where you’re getting that from, but if they pay Phillips they’re at around 75 in 2013. Unless you give him something nuts you can structure Votto’s contract around Phillips’
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by regfairfield on Jan 26, 2012 11:26 AM PST up reply actions
I was just relaying information from my Red-fan coworker. He said they’re at $80M for 2012 before the raises kick in. I didn’t verify the numbers, so I’ll defer to your assessment.
In 2012 they are but losing Phillips, Votto, Rolen and a strangely expensive Bronson Arroyo clears a ton of room.
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by regfairfield on Jan 26, 2012 11:38 AM PST up reply actions
after seeing the shitty trades that have happened the last few years
I wouldn’t rule it out
Only a sith deals in absolutes.
We appear to have nothing to offer for Miggy. The same way we appear to have made a legitimate effort to sign Prince. Also, next year, our pitching depth may look even more impressive. Or it may not, of course.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
By a year from now
We will have Rubby back, Eovladi will have spent more time in the majors, I believe Withrow and Webster will have at least made their MLB debuts, Lee and Gould will be ready for or already in AA, and possibly Alex Sanchez too (I wonder if he goes to A+ this year). I think a year from now our farm system is going to be looking great, though the hitting will still suck.
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Angel Sanchez?
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 26, 2012 10:59 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=sa596521&position=P
8-4 99 innings 2.82 ERA 3.46 FIP 7.64 K/9 3.55 BB/9 0.45 HR/9 in LoA this year.
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Sign Greinke nest season, then offer some of the excess young flame throwers to a team in possession of a bat we need in LA.
by Lex in Brooklyn on Jan 26, 2012 11:09 AM PST up reply actions
Why not Hamels or Cain?
Greinke has been league average for two years now.
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by Taylor Maricle on Jan 26, 2012 11:14 AM PST up reply actions
No good reason. Just don’t like either of them. Giants and Philies.
by Lex in Brooklyn on Jan 26, 2012 11:15 AM PST up reply actions
I think Hamels>Cain>Greinke is the order of ability there. With signability issues, I’d go Cain>Hamels>Greinke
"We'll see" said the Zen Master
I'd prefer Hamels
Cain’s a Giant and at least we wouldn’t have to face him, we get owned by Hamels and own Cain.
@TElciram
by Taylor Maricle on Jan 26, 2012 11:18 AM PST up reply actions
With a new ownership looking to flash their balls, I would be shocked if one of them didn’t end up a Dodger.
by Lex in Brooklyn on Jan 26, 2012 11:21 AM PST up reply actions
I think Hamels goes to one of NYY/BOS, agree Cain gets extended, Greinke is a definite toss up. I’m guessing STL.
"We'll see" said the Zen Master
Isn’t Hamels Mr. SoCal?
I could see him in LA. Much better place to pitch etc…
by Lex in Brooklyn on Jan 26, 2012 11:25 AM PST up reply actions
I think you know what you are getting with Hamels and Cain
But Greinke is a wildcard that could put up amazing seasons. If you put Greinke in Dodger Stadium, I bet he becomes a 5-6 WAR pitcher normally. The same could be said about Hamels, but I don’t see Cain doing better than 4-5 per year, though still good obviously.
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True
In my mind Greinke has shown more ability as far as having the elite season in 09, so maybe he could have a higher ceiling than the other two, though possibly a lower floor.
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2011 Hamels:2009 Greinke.
I still think you could get Cain for a Zito contract and be better off than having given a Cliff Lee deal to Greinke or a CC deal to Hamels.
"We'll see" said the Zen Master
I think this is the real point. They’re all good, just get the cheapest one.
by Michael White on Jan 26, 2012 11:34 AM PST up reply actions
While they are comparable I wouldn’t say quite that much, though Hamels was still great.
Refresh my memory, what is the Cliff Lee contract? I also think Cain’s will be bigger than Greinke FWIW
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I would easily take Hamels at any price
Change-up-centric pitchers age better than guys like Greinke that rely on a slider. Not sure what Cain’s main pitch is. I just think Hamels will be an effective start for longer, so if CC money is what it takes, i’m down for that as long as the owner has enough money left over for a 3-ish WAR hitter.
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by Taylor Maricle on Jan 26, 2012 1:58 PM PST up reply actions
League average by what measure?
by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Jan 26, 2012 11:15 AM PST up reply actions
Brewers/Royals defense.
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by regfairfield on Jan 26, 2012 11:19 AM PST up reply actions
Wasn’t Brewers defense last year considered laughably, historically, bad?
by Michael White on Jan 26, 2012 11:21 AM PST up reply actions
Fangraphs has him at #13 in MLB in pitcher WAR for 2010 to 2011
by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Jan 26, 2012 11:20 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah, that is not going to fly here.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
by meercatjohn on Jan 26, 2012 11:21 AM PST up reply actions
I still don't want Greinke
Lost a whole MPH on his fastball last year, and threw his slider at levels comparable to 2009.
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by Taylor Maricle on Jan 26, 2012 2:00 PM PST up reply actions
This is why ERA+ is one of the most flawed advanced statitstics
Virtually every other measure has him as great or better.
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League average in what way? His peripherals have been outstanding
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
by meercatjohn on Jan 26, 2012 11:15 AM PST up reply actions
I dont understand why you keep saying this
it’s wrong.
In 2010 Greinke had a 3.34 FIP and 3.60 xFIP with 7.40 K/9 2.25 BB/9 and a 0.74 HR/9. The homeruns were a bit high, but everything else looks great. Not like the unbelievably elite 2009 season, but still good to all-star level.
Last year he only got 171 innings, but still had 10.54 K/9 2.36 BB/9 with 1.00 HR/9 (possibly because of the change in parks?) 2.98 FIP and 2.56 xFIP.
Give him 220 innings last year and he puts up an all-star worthy season.
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Give him 220 innings last year and he puts up an all-star worthy season.
But he didn’t and didn’t.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 26, 2012 11:29 AM PST up reply actions
From that whole post you both decided to take the throwaway line at the end
instead of the main point that he’s actually been very good the last two years.
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Give Ethier 600 at bats against righties with a runner on third and less than two outs in the bottom of the ninth and he’d be a hall of famer.
"We'll see" said the Zen Master
holy shit you guys are acting like I said something crazy
He had an ERA under 4 and his FIP and xFIP were excellent. Why the resistance here?
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I dont care about mistakes 7 years from now… I care about winning.right.now.
by uschris0304 on Jan 26, 2012 10:53 AM PST up reply actions
live live like for today
but you better plan like you will be here tomorrow too
too much weight on either end of that teeter totter and you are pretty well fucked
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 26, 2012 10:56 AM PST up reply actions
At my work the mens room has 3 toilets no urinals
it is pretty much agreed upon that the first one is for #1 and the other 2 are for #2. naturally the first one is pretty gross. yet one person keeps sitting there for #2. I cant even look him in the face, so disgusting to me. what is wrong with him?
I can nod, but I have nowhere to go from here
by Josie Becker on Jan 26, 2012 10:52 AM PST up reply actions
be a good guy
draw him a map that looks like this
x o o 1 2 2by Hollywood Joe on Jan 26, 2012 10:53 AM PST up reply actions
we only have 2
and someone keeps fucking peeing on the seats. LIFT THE SEAT UP JACKASS.
Only a sith deals in absolutes.
true story
I am so concerned that the person after me in the airplane restroom will think that I messed it up
that I often find myself with a wad of paper towels in my hand cleaning up someone else s mess
what is wrong with people?
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 26, 2012 10:55 AM PST up reply actions
Mike Ilitch has one lousy rug
"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."
by Pure Azure on Jan 26, 2012 11:14 AM PST via Android app reply actions
Still doesn’t excuse the Chinaman pissing on it.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
It was a valued rug, for sure
"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."
by Pure Azure on Jan 26, 2012 11:16 AM PST via Android app up reply actions
Phil,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6WHjTOTu2M&feature=share
"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"
I’ll check it out tonight, not in a position to watch a video right now. Major fire fighting going on, friggin Windows 7 Clients and Windows 2000 Server don’t like each other.
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by meercatjohn on Jan 26, 2012 11:23 AM PST up reply actions
Maybe not practical, but would have been nice for the local boy to take the Dodgers offer anyways. Personally, I much rather live in LA with 160 for 7, then to live in Detroit for 214 over 9. Even if he is living in a nicer area, whatever, it still aint LA baby.
Fielder could probably buy himself his own suburb and gentrify it to his liking with 214 mil.
by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Jan 26, 2012 11:27 AM PST up reply actions
Cecil is a local boy, so there is a connection beyond just his birth place too
by Lex in Brooklyn on Jan 26, 2012 11:31 AM PST up reply actions
am I the only one
Who thinks the Dodgers should try for Cespedes? Would give us another guy with speed and power.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 26, 2012 11:32 AM PST via iPhone app reply actions
Alfredo Silverio and Reggie Abrecrombie also have speed and power….
How the hell does one evaluate a guy like him?
by Lex in Brooklyn on Jan 26, 2012 11:35 AM PST up reply actions
And so much core strength. Hell yes we should but this money that we were going to give to Prince is going to strangely vanish.
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by regfairfield on Jan 26, 2012 11:34 AM PST up reply actions
He would to dorks like me.
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by regfairfield on Jan 26, 2012 11:36 AM PST up reply actions
And he’ll sell them once he cranks 45 dingers.
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by regfairfield on Jan 26, 2012 11:36 AM PST up reply actions
Wins sell tickets…Is the dude good?
How the hell can anyone know?
by Lex in Brooklyn on Jan 26, 2012 11:36 AM PST up reply actions
holy shit
Reg agrees! La Potencia!!
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 26, 2012 11:39 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
I’d rather see if Sands can be the guy
by Lex in Brooklyn on Jan 26, 2012 11:39 AM PST up reply actions
I like his Cannon in RF and he looked better out there anyway. Hell, put Van Slyke in LF
by Lex in Brooklyn on Jan 26, 2012 11:42 AM PST up reply actions
Is there any chance that a year from now the Reds would entertain trade offers for Votto, who would then entertain a long extension offer that would basically give him FA a year early? It presumes that the Reds wouldn’t themselves be able to afford to do the same thing and would appreciate the cash.
Certainly a possibility, but they are also a contending team and depending on whether Phillips returns for 2013 or whatever other moves they make they could be just as likely to extend Votto, or at least try to make another playoff run with him in 2013. Which would mean he could be available at the deadline in 2013 at the earliest.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 26, 2012 12:01 PM PST up reply actions
I hope that thing dies in a fire
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jan 26, 2012 11:48 AM PST up reply actions
don't know what that is
but I can tell you that I hate it already
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 26, 2012 11:48 AM PST up reply actions
Every Time Someone Hits A Home Run In Miami
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by regfairfield on Jan 26, 2012 11:50 AM PST up reply actions
Needs moar Knockahoma
It's gettin' so a businessman can't expect no return from a fixed fight. Now, if you can't trust a fix, what can you trust?
by mleadman on Jan 26, 2012 11:56 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
It looks like Big Gay Al's Big Gay Boat Ride
by BFDC on Jan 26, 2012 12:00 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
so glad that someone finally figured out how to improve the game of baseball
and here I thought it was perfect all these years
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 26, 2012 12:00 PM PST up reply actions
It is like you all hate kids
no beachballs
no volcano fireworks
no dinger machine
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
by meercatjohn on Jan 26, 2012 12:08 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
hmmmm
beach balls and wave are equals for me
volcano and the DM are just sad
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 26, 2012 12:17 PM PST up reply actions
I used to like the beach ball as a kid. I never liked the wave. Individual vs. crowd. Paper airplanes from upper deck of DS used to be a thing too.
my fav as a kid
was CHARGE!
and then I saw Wilma and Betty do CHARGE IT! on the Flintstones and I was doubly hooked
I loved the Flintstones, Scooby Doo, Popeye (Sunday AM only), and Looney Tunes above all others
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 26, 2012 12:27 PM PST up reply actions
I am prepared to pay 30 dollars for a miniature dinger machine if they are ever made.
Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant
by regfairfield on Jan 26, 2012 12:03 PM PST up reply actions
That’s Humma’s wife nickname for him.
by kinbote on Jan 26, 2012 12:16 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
honest to god
I thought that was a joke
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena
Pinnochio got sick from a cigar inside that thing
by Lex in Brooklyn on Jan 26, 2012 11:58 AM PST up reply actions 3 recs
in no way does that resemble Monica Lewinsky
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 26, 2012 12:29 PM PST up reply actions
Once again, I am reminded about the code of off-the-record and sources
You have to believe that the information coming out now was told to these reporters either as good
sorry posted too early
Seems like a good collection of circumstantial evidence to show that the offer was legitimate.
by bhsportsguy on Jan 26, 2012 12:17 PM PST up reply actions
conspiracies are hard to coordinate – multiple sources confirms the story?
is that the code?
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 26, 2012 12:20 PM PST up reply actions
I don't know
you have one report they met in Dallas, then another they met with Boras last week in Newport Beach, finally you have an offer that sounds somewhat reasonable and maybe too detailed to be just someone guessing.
by bhsportsguy on Jan 26, 2012 12:23 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, I mean if you believe that an offer was actually made, the one that was reported seems damn competitive. Not something half-assed done for show.
The fact that I don’t hate it probably means there is no way Prince would have done it.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
right it wasn't like we where underpaying him
7 for 160 is a big ass deal
Only a sith deals in absolutes.
I'll admit
my brain would have melted and I would have probably danced around my office for a good 3 minutes until I was out of breath
then I would have tried to go back to work, but wasted hours here instead, which meant I had to stay late to finish up
pretty much would have been like most days, except for that 3 minutes of exercise
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 26, 2012 12:31 PM PST up reply actions
I wouldn't have wanted to go past 6 but could have lived with 7
9 for prince is insane
Only a sith deals in absolutes.
I mostly agree, however if it led to just 1 WS title within those first 5-6 years, I wouldnt give a damn about the dead weight later on.
by uschris0304 on Jan 26, 2012 12:35 PM PST up reply actions
haha, maybe… I would have looked forward to complaining about in on TBLA 3D though.
by uschris0304 on Jan 26, 2012 12:37 PM PST up reply actions
Debates were going on over at DT about the DH, and how NL cant hand out the insane deal like AL teams can because we dont have the DH to move them to later on, and maybe NL should add the DH… I know thats blasphemy for alot of fans, but I wouldnt mind it… Im not tied to having no DH.
by uschris0304 on Jan 26, 2012 12:40 PM PST up reply actions
Even Btimm doesnt seem opposed to the DH, and that dude knows what he is talking about
by uschris0304 on Jan 26, 2012 12:40 PM PST up reply actions
I think the DH makes great sense
unless you grew up playing the game and then it sucks
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 26, 2012 12:50 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
its going to happen
I’m just going to relish the time we have left without it
Only a sith deals in absolutes.
I think the DH makes great sense
If you don’t love baseball and are a fucking idiot
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
by meercatjohn on Jan 26, 2012 1:44 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
Nolij’s razor: Deals that I find reasonable, no player would take
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 26, 2012 12:28 PM PST up reply actions
Also, how come Kemp and TG Jr couldnt close the deal with Fielder, though they were best buds?? If I was Kemp and TG Jr, I’d tell Fielder to never call me again, and delete him from their Facebook!!
by uschris0304 on Jan 26, 2012 12:44 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I guess MLB players cant recruit like NBA players can…. Shit even LeBron took less money to win.
by uschris0304 on Jan 26, 2012 12:47 PM PST up reply actions
lack of a salary cap
Will do that
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 26, 2012 12:49 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
right when the difference is a couple mil its easier to recruit
when its 60 million…
Only a sith deals in absolutes.
He got $54 million more from the Tigers. It’s not hard to see why he took that deal.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 26, 2012 12:46 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
but when you factor in the shit-hole he has to live in (no offense to anyone here from the lovely Detroit area) that kind of evens things out! :)
or the fact that he never will spend the 60 million dollars extra that he got
Only a sith deals in absolutes.
I would!
or invest it so that I can spend that 60 and more
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 26, 2012 12:55 PM PST up reply actions
I doubt he cares all that much about the house he’ll be living in during the season. It will be nice and most likely in a nice area but it’s not like he’s going to have a ton of time to go out an about. In the offseason he’ll probably live in Orlando or some other place like that.
Wasnt it last week that Loney was making were texts like “Were going to win the World Series” ?? I wonder if he knew about this, and had already been talked to about going to another position. I wonder if it had gotten that close?
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by Lex in Brooklyn on Jan 26, 2012 1:13 PM PST up reply actions
According to this article
Just be happy you are not a Mets fan.
And this companion story – a rather large drop in payroll for the Mets
After general manager Sandy Alderson revealed the organization lost $70 million last year, the Mets appear poised to have the biggest one-year payroll drop in MLB history — roughly $52 million. That would surpass the former record: $48.4 million by the Texas Rangers from 2003 to 2004, according to ESPN Stats & Information.
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