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Andre Ethier, On Wounded Knee

Andre Ethier was interviewed by Mark Willard of ESPN Radio 710 in Los Angeles, and spoke about the knee injury that limited the right fielder to 11 home runs in 135 games and cut short season in early September:

"I've kind of dealt with this knee thing for the past two years, put it off for one off-season and then last season it just became a thing where a lot of things started multiplying and getting worse and something where I couldn't quite get back my swing … It was very frustrating and I learned a lot from that."

Ethier also expressed frustration at the Dodgers for not participating in any big free agent signings this winter, but noted, "Obviously it's going to get better from here on out because of the [sale] and getting new people in there." The interview will air on Saturday at 11:30 a.m. PST, which by then will make it about as fresh and timely as an interview by Lee 'Hacksaw' Hamilton.

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Clayton Kershaw caught up with Domingo Ayala (@DomingoBeisbol on Twitter) recently, and the two took part in a bullpen session together, and had a press conference for an upcoming "challenge" (hat tip to Xeifrank for the link):

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I can't thank you enough for the overwhelming amount of support you all showed me yesterday. I have written here at True Blue LA for over three years, and I'm thankful to have all of you as loyal readers and integral members of the community. There is nothing I love doing more than writing about the Dodgers, and about sports in general. Now, thanks to a freelance writing job I have taken, I will now have even more time to devote to doing a job I love.

My plan is to go to Arizona for six full weeks of spring training, and from then throughout the regular season provide you with more Dodgers coverage than ever before. Thanks again for reading, and for your support.

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Andre Ethier obviously doesn’t know who Mark Ellis is.

Congrats Eric! That really is awesome news!

by OB12 on Jan 25, 2012 7:49 AM PST reply actions  

Thanks for taking care of the knee during the previous off seasons when it first started bothering you Andre. Nothing like sucking for a year 1/2 and coming into your free agent year to get that taken care of. Fuck you

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 7:57 AM PST reply actions  

trying to encourage Ethier to re-sign or resign?

"rudeness is the weak man's imitation of strength"...Eric Hoffer

by BaldBilly on Jan 25, 2012 8:00 AM PST up reply actions  

He is just doing what we’ve seen a lot of guys do, try to play through it with less than stellar results. Although letting it go on for a year and a half is pretty dumb.

by OB12 on Jan 25, 2012 8:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Does the writing job involve spray paint and restrooms?

"rudeness is the weak man's imitation of strength"...Eric Hoffer

by BaldBilly on Jan 25, 2012 7:58 AM PST reply actions  

Giants suck?

"rudeness is the weak man's imitation of strength"...Eric Hoffer

by BaldBilly on Jan 25, 2012 7:58 AM PST up reply actions  

thanks!

I don’t post very much, but this site is one of my everyday pleasures. Thank you for your dedication to Dodger fans everywhere!!

by teach4life on Jan 25, 2012 8:00 AM PST reply actions  

Ditto

Can’t post as much as I once did, maybe this summer, but I’m here to read most every day. You do a great job Eric, all of you guys do.

"It takes a special fan to root for a last place moribund bankrupt franchise."

by Little Blue Bicycle on Jan 25, 2012 8:02 AM PST up reply actions  

Mind as well get Clippers talk

started a little early today. Clippers vs Lakers tonight. My SRS has the Lakers as 6 point favorites and Vegas says Lakers by 3.5. Looks like Chris Paul is going to start.

by Xeifrank on Jan 25, 2012 8:24 AM PST reply actions  

what is SRS if I may ask?

by uschris0304 on Jan 25, 2012 8:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Software Requirements Specification.

Oops, wrong world.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 8:54 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Simple Rating System. B-ref uses it to power rank teams. Similar system used in BCS computer rankings and Pomeroy college basketball ratings.

by Xeifrank on Jan 25, 2012 9:25 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m going to save myself the aggravation and watch Animal Planet instead.

by ishXdavid on Jan 25, 2012 8:54 AM PST up reply actions  

This much debate over the meaningless NBA. Imagine if UCLA had a football team. Wow.

by Josie Becker on Jan 25, 2012 8:56 AM PST up reply actions  

I wish Chris was a around

Would love to get his take on the friendly coming up on Feb 29th and if he thinks Rossi will be back by summer

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 8:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Imagine if LA had a soccer team anyone actually cared about

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 8:58 AM PST up reply actions  

A former Galaxy player, used to play in our baseball league

Andy Oshay

he was probably the best player in the league, incredible athlete

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 9:07 AM PST up reply actions  

you better still be playing ball in 5 years when I turn 30.

by G.Scott on Jan 25, 2012 9:11 AM PST up reply actions  

A former Galaxy player used to be a barista at the Starbucks by my parents house. He quit soccer when he made shift manager.

by ishXdavid on Jan 25, 2012 9:24 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

the funny thing if you could substitute NFL practice squad and have the same story. Or minor league baseball player.

by Josie Becker on Jan 25, 2012 9:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Anybody know how much bullpen catchers make?

by ishXdavid on Jan 25, 2012 9:26 AM PST up reply actions  

HITNG

Also, all the sunflower seeds they can eat.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 25, 2012 9:28 AM PST up reply actions  

and cleat chasers.

by G.Scott on Jan 25, 2012 9:29 AM PST up reply actions  

or Baseball Annies, for you old timers

by G.Scott on Jan 25, 2012 9:29 AM PST up reply actions  

beaver bunnies

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 9:30 AM PST up reply actions  

I’ve heard jersey chasers.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 9:44 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

our backup catcher for my fall team wanted to be a MLB bullpen catcher/strength and conditioning coach, but he had trouble catching rec league pitching. I didn’t have the heart to tell him he should give up his dream.

by G.Scott on Jan 25, 2012 9:29 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm still chuckling at this

I guess he can learn the hard way through a visit to the ER.

by ishXdavid on Jan 25, 2012 9:32 AM PST up reply actions  

no joke, i’m proud to say i can still get to 85, but I threw a fastball off this guy’s mask this fall. Give it up, bro.

by G.Scott on Jan 25, 2012 9:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Better the mask than the cup, right?

by ishXdavid on Jan 25, 2012 9:36 AM PST up reply actions  

The cup would be some trick

by G.Scott on Jan 25, 2012 9:37 AM PST up reply actions  

skip a deuce
bust a nut*

*not the good way

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 9:38 AM PST up reply actions  

I didn’t tell you the story about the guy who caught without a cup yet, have I?

by G.Scott on Jan 25, 2012 9:40 AM PST up reply actions  

nope

not sure I want to hear

did they bleed?

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 9:41 AM PST up reply actions  

I retell this story when I hear about people playing without a cup

It’s second hand, but from a trusted source.

The coach who told me the story coaches high school fall ball teams for kids looking to get scene by colleges and scouts. He told me of a player he had who would catch without a cup. One day, batter fouls the ball straight down, and it comes up and gets the guy in the man berries. He has serious discomfort, so he goes to the hospital. Doctor says he ruptured a testicle, needs to have it removed. Kid has surgery to remove his testicle, gets an infection during surgery, dies from the surgery.

Crazy stuff.

by G.Scott on Jan 25, 2012 9:50 AM PST up reply actions  

I laughed harder than I should have at this

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena

by Maddz on Jan 25, 2012 12:14 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

=D

I was surfing all the Horatio memes the other night.

by ishXdavid on Jan 25, 2012 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

I mostly

play without a cup

especially outfield

but even 3rd

damn you

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 9:52 AM PST up reply actions  

You’re probably fine as long as you’re not a catcher. What a moron.

by G.Scott on Jan 25, 2012 9:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Adrian Beltre says huh?

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 9:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Maybe with a cup he would not be so attentive:)

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 9:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Alexei Ramirez is not walking through that (dugout) door

by G.Scott on Jan 25, 2012 10:02 AM PST up reply actions  

Cup talk. Would Humma pay $1000 for one? What say you good folks?

by Xeifrank on Jan 25, 2012 9:54 AM PST up reply actions  

and wow

did I really say “get scene”?

yeesh

by G.Scott on Jan 25, 2012 9:53 AM PST up reply actions  

That kid wasn’t as tough as Phil Nevin.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 25, 2012 9:54 AM PST up reply actions  

hahah no not nfl practice squad you couldn't

those guys are actually really close to actually getting to be on the team.

Only a sith deals in absolutes.

by nolander on Jan 25, 2012 9:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Peyton Manning said the day after they fired Caldwell and the execs, they changed all the keys to the practice facility.

by G.Scott on Jan 25, 2012 9:32 AM PST up reply actions  

well

they probably also released all their training staff

Only a sith deals in absolutes.

by nolander on Jan 25, 2012 9:33 AM PST up reply actions  

they did

dumb too. why would you release the training staff as Peyton Manning is halfway through his recovery. Some new trainer is going to have to learn his medical history on the fly.

by G.Scott on Jan 25, 2012 9:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Its likely they will retain a lot of them in the end

but the new coach will get to hire his people.

Only a sith deals in absolutes.

by nolander on Jan 25, 2012 9:35 AM PST up reply actions  

would you pay him his $28mil roster bonus to see if he’s healthy?

by G.Scott on Jan 25, 2012 9:36 AM PST up reply actions  

I have a loyalty problem

so I’d pay him

but rationally, might be time to move on

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 9:37 AM PST up reply actions  

the reason the bonus is coming due

is because peyton told his agent to give the team an out if his injury never got better. They negotiated a huge contract for him knowing he had his injury, they already did the loyal thing.

Only a sith deals in absolutes.

by nolander on Jan 25, 2012 9:38 AM PST up reply actions  

trade him to Miami, use the saving to sign 2 offensive linemen, protect your next investment

by G.Scott on Jan 25, 2012 9:38 AM PST up reply actions  

when is it due

Only a sith deals in absolutes.

by nolander on Jan 25, 2012 9:37 AM PST up reply actions  

if he isn't healthy by then they don't pay it

and work out something else like eric says below.

Only a sith deals in absolutes.

by nolander on Jan 25, 2012 9:39 AM PST up reply actions  

If he stays, they would likely figure out a way to restructure that $28 million.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 25, 2012 9:38 AM PST up reply actions  

writing on the wall “Thanks for the memories, now exit through the gift shop please”

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 9:33 AM PST up reply actions  

so our the MLS reserves, but they both need side jobs

by Josie Becker on Jan 25, 2012 9:28 AM PST up reply actions  

so, they’re like major league baseball players in the 1950s

by G.Scott on Jan 25, 2012 9:31 AM PST up reply actions  

So rank and file MLS ~= 2nd to 3rd tier athletes in major US sports. Got it.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 9:42 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions   1 recs

Just temporarily, I hear it is the next big thing here.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 9:43 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Oh wait, I’ve been hearing the same thing since they told me about jet packs. Then again, they must have come a long way since they are putting the fear of god into the Panamians National Team.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 9:44 AM PST up reply actions  

yeah, I’ve been hearing that about as long as I have heard the Clippers have turned the corner

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 9:45 AM PST up reply actions  

eh, we define corners differently. I’ll be writing about the Clipper Corner soon.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 9:51 AM PST up reply actions  

is that next to Spiliken Corners?

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 9:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Measure it out for me in World Cup portions that I can understand. Not woman, men, the three legged folk

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 9:48 AM PST up reply actions  

building stadiums

putting buts in seats seems like real measurable progress.

Only a sith deals in absolutes.

by nolander on Jan 25, 2012 9:48 AM PST up reply actions  

ah, I forgot I bounced into the MLS thread and out of the National thread.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 9:49 AM PST up reply actions  

and the National Team now expects to qualify for the World Cup and make it through the group stage, that’s progress from 30 years ago

by Josie Becker on Jan 25, 2012 9:50 AM PST up reply actions  

so you’re saying the USMNT has turned the corner?

by ishXdavid on Jan 25, 2012 9:55 AM PST up reply actions  

yes, yes I am saying that. Turned the corner in 1994.

by Josie Becker on Jan 25, 2012 9:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Do the MLS teams play in any kind of cups/tournaments against teams from other countries? Kind of like they do in Europe?

by Xeifrank on Jan 25, 2012 9:59 AM PST up reply actions  

CONCACAF Champions League, Galaxy are about to start the knockout round.

They won their group, which had Morelia (MEX), Alajuelense (Costa Rica), and Motagua (Honduras)

by Josie Becker on Jan 25, 2012 10:02 AM PST up reply actions  

she loves when we ask these questions

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 10:03 AM PST up reply actions  

Cool. This should be marketed a little better. Call your people and let them know.

by Xeifrank on Jan 25, 2012 10:04 AM PST up reply actions  

oh trust me, it’s a definite issue. CONCACAF is in charge of that, and CONCACAF should never be in charge of anything.

by Josie Becker on Jan 25, 2012 10:04 AM PST up reply actions  

You’re saying that soccer is essentially a minor league sport.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 25, 2012 11:21 AM PST up reply actions  

no I’m not, I’m saying that it’s not knocking soccer to say reserve league players can’t live on their wages.

by Josie Becker on Jan 25, 2012 11:35 AM PST up reply actions  

huh, I see references to him on the 2007 reserve team roster, neat!

by Josie Becker on Jan 25, 2012 9:24 AM PST up reply actions  

UCLA will bounce back. The football program has turned the corner. =T

by ishXdavid on Jan 25, 2012 8:59 AM PST up reply actions  

haha funny stuff….. soooo I take my break and still no definition of SRS? Small Rample Size??

by uschris0304 on Jan 25, 2012 9:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Strength R Schedule??

by uschris0304 on Jan 25, 2012 9:19 AM PST up reply actions  

It’s probably something I wouldn’t understand.

by ishXdavid on Jan 25, 2012 9:21 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m sending out an SRS, sending out an SRS… Sink R Ship? Yeah I agree I probably wont understand it either.

by uschris0304 on Jan 25, 2012 9:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Simple Rating System

From Basketball-Reference.com:

Simple Rating System; a rating that takes into account average point differential and strength of schedule. The rating is denominated in points above/below average, where zero is average.

Doug Drinen at Pro-Football-Reference.com has an even more detailed description of the system in general.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 25, 2012 9:23 AM PST up reply actions  

oh I see…. thanks Eric im going to read more about it.

by uschris0304 on Jan 25, 2012 9:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Thanks
R_ind = 12.0 + (1/16) (R_bal + R_jax + R_cle + . . . . + R_ari)

R_pit = 8.2 + (1/16) (R_ten + R_hou + R_nwe + . . . . + R_det)

.

.

.

R_stl = -4.1 + (1/16) (R_sfo + R_ari + R_ten + . . . . + R_dal)

That’s meant to be “simple”? I’m so thankful I have all you smart people to guide my opinions.

by ishXdavid on Jan 25, 2012 9:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Math is the computers job.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jan 25, 2012 9:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Seriously, where is Beautiful Mind when you need him?

by uschris0304 on Jan 25, 2012 9:27 AM PST up reply actions  

running towards and away from madness at the same time

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 9:28 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

That’s as good a description of that movie as any.

I did get a little choked up at the pens scene.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 25, 2012 9:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Hahahaha rample

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena

by Maddz on Jan 25, 2012 12:12 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

don't hape the player

hate the game

Only a sith deals in absolutes.

by nolander on Jan 25, 2012 9:13 AM PST up reply actions  

five little letters and a dot
hit our Josie on the spot
Trolling for laughs
Hoping for mirth
my ass better get back to work

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 9:14 AM PST up reply actions  

the game of soccer is not meaningless. the day in day out of MLS is probably meaningless

by Josie Becker on Jan 25, 2012 9:26 AM PST up reply actions  

none of it is meaningless…. to call any sports meaningless is insulting to that fan base. They may not be here to defend themselves, but all sports deserve respect IMO.

by uschris0304 on Jan 25, 2012 9:29 AM PST up reply actions  

thank you for the statement of humanity Chris

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 9:30 AM PST up reply actions  

in a world where Josie is being self depreciating after stirring the pot on a slow morning, one man will stand up for humanity

by Josie Becker on Jan 25, 2012 9:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Josie is trolling this morning, may have something to do with that elusive corner

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 9:32 AM PST up reply actions  

the national team plays in Panama tonight, I’m a bit on edge.

by Josie Becker on Jan 25, 2012 9:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Ohhhh Panama, our home and native laaaand

by G.Scott on Jan 25, 2012 9:35 AM PST up reply actions  

The land of 240 Million against little Panama puts national soccer fans on edge. Funny, they have a population of 3.5 Million.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 9:38 AM PST up reply actions  

we’re at 350million citizens

by G.Scott on Jan 25, 2012 9:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes, but the number of people who know how to properly kick a soccer ball are about the same in each country.

by BFDC on Jan 25, 2012 9:39 AM PST up reply actions  

every Panamanian citizen would have to buy 1 little caesers hot and fresh for the Tigers to be able to pay Prince Fielder.

by G.Scott on Jan 25, 2012 9:40 AM PST up reply actions  

and sometimes Central America is just a plain ole everybody death trap

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 9:42 AM PST up reply actions  

We talking Kansas here?

by kinbote on Jan 25, 2012 9:44 AM PST up reply actions  

ha

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 9:44 AM PST up reply actions  

even ping pong

because ping pong is crazy

Only a sith deals in absolutes.

by nolander on Jan 25, 2012 9:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah man, I dont know how they do it.

by uschris0304 on Jan 25, 2012 9:33 AM PST up reply actions  

I just love playing ping pong with my flexolite ping pong paddle

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Jan 25, 2012 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

table tennis is what the true sportsmen call it

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 9:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Ping pong rallies on.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 25, 2012 9:34 AM PST up reply actions  

that and a taste for monkey brains

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 9:44 AM PST up reply actions  

The Temple of Doom was in India, not China,

by ishXdavid on Jan 25, 2012 9:45 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes! That and Tai Chi, kite flying and badminton. They all seemed to be the rage over there. There was a badminton court under my hotel (2nd floor) window last time. Those guys get pretty loud.

by Xeifrank on Jan 25, 2012 9:46 AM PST up reply actions  

they love the Badminton

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 9:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Never been. Would love to go. (My wife asked me last night if I’d live in Hong Kong—she’s elliptical like that).

by kinbote on Jan 25, 2012 9:53 AM PST up reply actions  

You should go, it’s great. Just bring some anti-biotics for the likely sinus infection you will get. /pollution

by Xeifrank on Jan 25, 2012 9:56 AM PST up reply actions  

oof

I could never do it, I already get too many of those

Only a sith deals in absolutes.

by nolander on Jan 25, 2012 9:59 AM PST up reply actions  

I wouldn't have expected this from chris

But I love that it was said.

TBLA 2011 Postseason Prediction Champion

by Ivdown on Jan 25, 2012 9:58 AM PST up reply actions  

blah, blah, blah
Sports are nothing, respect people

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 10:00 AM PST up reply actions  

to call any sports meaningless is insulting to that fan base

Only a sith deals in absolutes.

by nolander on Jan 25, 2012 10:01 AM PST up reply actions  

I have to commend you for enduring MLS soccer. I have a hard time watching it. I can watch European soccer, but watching MLS is like watching Turkish basketball.

by ishXdavid on Jan 25, 2012 9:41 AM PST up reply actions  

but if you lived in Turkey, that bball would be the shit

by Josie Becker on Jan 25, 2012 9:42 AM PST up reply actions  

If you didn’t own a TV.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 25, 2012 11:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Its tough to watch, no question…. It drives my Italian buddy up the fuckin wall…. But you know, gotta start somewhere…. and whatever helps make LA a title down, im all for, for the most part…. How can MLS get more money into it though??

by uschris0304 on Jan 25, 2012 9:45 AM PST up reply actions  

Be interesting is a start

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 9:45 AM PST up reply actions  

But they cant be interesting without world class players. Cant get world class players without world class money…. Wonder what MLS plan is to eventually get soccer to that level.

by uschris0304 on Jan 25, 2012 9:46 AM PST up reply actions  

devalue the Euro

prop up the dollar

Play dollar wages to players who sock money away and spend it in Euro countries

/not going to happen

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 9:47 AM PST up reply actions  

right now MLS is a single entity, so much of it is being attractive enough to get great corporate partners, it’s also selling out the stadiums that have been built, and it’s being attractive enough for the David Beckham’s and Thierry Henry’s to want to come here

by Josie Becker on Jan 25, 2012 9:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Does Ms Turkey attend games?? That would be awesome!

by uschris0304 on Jan 25, 2012 9:45 AM PST up reply actions  

Carl’s needs to offer a Turkey burger in her honor

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 9:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Both teams coming off two days rest. Paul will probably be rusty, line seems right. Other then the Celtics, I got more money for this game then any other Laker game this year.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 8:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Arian Foster

I can see a number of teams putting in huge offer sheets for Foster (Restricted Free Agent). The new CBA only allows a 1st round tender (as opposed to 1st and 3rd) and the Texans are dealing with cap issues.

nola, are you worried about losing him?

by silverwidow on Jan 25, 2012 9:42 AM PST reply actions  

no

Only a sith deals in absolutes.

by nolander on Jan 25, 2012 9:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Foster is no dummy

and the number of teams that would be able to put him in as good a position to succeed as the texans is… small. Not everyone runs a zone blocking scheme and arguably no one does it as good as us. And we should be able to match any offer anyways.

Only a sith deals in absolutes.

by nolander on Jan 25, 2012 9:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, everybody in the world wants to be a Houston Texan….

by uschris0304 on Jan 25, 2012 9:51 AM PST up reply actions  

You sound like a Laker or Yankee fan IMO when you talk about the Texans haha… im just playin.

by uschris0304 on Jan 25, 2012 9:52 AM PST up reply actions  

you are "playing" but I know you are not

players love kubes, its no secret, they talk about it all the time. And nothing I said about our ability to put him in the best position to succeed is wrong. Did you miss the last several years of amazing Houston offense?

Only a sith deals in absolutes.

by nolander on Jan 25, 2012 10:00 AM PST up reply actions  

haha ok, you are right, I just said im playing because I didnt want the comment to go anywhere….. Its not just this comment, but all the comments I have seen about the Texans, feel like you talk about the Texans like they are some kind of dynasty, or greatest NFL franchise ever. You put them on some super franchise level. But maybe im just getting the wrong idea…. Texans are a good team though, and on the rise……I would of just said Foster is no dummy, he is going to look for the most money….which IMO is what he will do. But I think Texans match no matter what. Mario sounds like the guy they might let go.

by uschris0304 on Jan 25, 2012 10:06 AM PST up reply actions  

I think they try to retain mario

but they could go either way. They also need to retain Chris Meyers(best zone blocking center in football right now). I talk that way about the Texans because they are a classy organization on the rise, and yeah, they are a really damn good football team. If Schuab was healthy I think we would have been talking about them playing the giants in two weeks, not the pats.

Only a sith deals in absolutes.

by nolander on Jan 25, 2012 10:12 AM PST up reply actions  

this whole “your franchise is only good now but they haven’t been good forever so they don’t count” thing you have going sucks man. Today is what matters, championships are fun to point to and remember but if your team sucks they suck and if your team is competitive now then they’re competitive. You need to learn how to let fans of other teams have their moment and not make everything about your favorite team. Are you sure you aren’t from Cal?

by G.Scott on Jan 25, 2012 10:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Are you sure you aren’t from Cal?

boom

Only a sith deals in absolutes.

by nolander on Jan 25, 2012 10:13 AM PST up reply actions  

dude, im a Raider fan, my team fuckin sucks…. Where did I make it about my favorite team?

by uschris0304 on Jan 25, 2012 10:13 AM PST up reply actions  

it’s not always about 1 comment, Chris.

by G.Scott on Jan 25, 2012 10:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Also, ive never said he shouldnt have his moment or be happy about the Texans, or be excited about the future. All I was saying is IMO, he talks about the Texans like its where every player wants to be, they’d take less money to play for Kubiack because he is the greatest HC in the NFL, Players want to be a Texan so bad they will take less money becayse they want to win…. Now he never directly said any of this, but thats how it comes across to me when he talks about Texans and I dont see it like that at all…. see, this is why I should of just stuck to my im just playin comment.

by uschris0304 on Jan 25, 2012 10:20 AM PST up reply actions  

no I didn't say that at all

I did say players love playing for Kubiak. This isn’t idle speculation, this is culled from years of watching and hearing players say they love kubiak, that they believe in him and love playing for him. If you don’t like it, deal.

I didn’t say players want to be Texans just because like they would be Yankees, what I did say was a very specific thing about the scheme and strength of our football team, and how it benefits foster.

Reading Comprehension, do you speak it?

Only a sith deals in absolutes.

by nolander on Jan 25, 2012 10:22 AM PST up reply actions  

ok, thats fine…. I still think Foster goes for the most money, whatever system its in. But Id expect Texans will match any offer.

by uschris0304 on Jan 25, 2012 10:32 AM PST up reply actions  

you always do this when someone talks about their team

as long as that team isn’t the lakers “man why you acting like your team is so good they aren’t a dynasty!”. Shit I wasn’t talking about dynasty I only have been talking about the current state of the organization and you always jump in with that.

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by nolander on Jan 25, 2012 10:15 AM PST up reply actions  

We call that the Yankee / Laker / Celtic dick chip.

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 10:16 AM PST up reply actions  

if you use it in every convo

it stops being a chip and starts becoming a mockery of a sham

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by nolander on Jan 25, 2012 10:20 AM PST up reply actions  

there will be no sham mocking here

pillow rights forever

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 10:21 AM PST up reply actions  

You left out USC football.

I wonder how old usChris was during the Tollner and Smith years.


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by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 10:51 AM PST up reply actions  

We will find out as he deals with the Mike Brown years

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 10:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Well, im 33 now, 34 in May, so there ya go… I dont remember Tollner though.

by uschris0304 on Jan 25, 2012 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

I wish I didn't remember Tollner

My old brain has merged Tollner, Larry Smith and Paul Hackett into one big monster of coaching fail

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by mleadman on Jan 25, 2012 12:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I sort of blend them all together too, but Smith wasn’t that bad. At least until the Freedom Bowl loss to Fresno State.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 25, 2012 12:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Did you all like Robinson or to early for you kids

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 12:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I never knew his first tenure at USC, which was amazing, but liked him in his second turn with the Trojans.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 25, 2012 12:15 PM PST up reply actions  

ok, fair enough man, my bad.

by uschris0304 on Jan 25, 2012 10:21 AM PST up reply actions  

wait, cant Houston just franchise tag Foster??

by uschris0304 on Jan 25, 2012 10:10 AM PST up reply actions  

I don't know

but they won’t, its probably long term deal or bust

Only a sith deals in absolutes.

by nolander on Jan 25, 2012 10:12 AM PST up reply actions  

If Clippers win tonight

They will win the season series against the Lakers for the third time in franchise history.

1992-1993 Clippers won 3 of 5 against the Lakers
1974-1975 Braves won all 4 against the Lakers (Lakers were so mad, they traded for Kareem that offseason)

by Eric Stephen on Jan 25, 2012 9:44 AM PST reply actions  

Trying to jinx us?

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 9:46 AM PST up reply actions  

I dont think Howard goes anywhere until after the allstar break, if at all.

by uschris0304 on Jan 25, 2012 9:48 AM PST up reply actions  

This year is just a 3 game series, so I say put anterisk next to it

by uschris0304 on Jan 25, 2012 9:48 AM PST up reply actions  

was 92-93 the year the Clips had that blow out win that made Chick Hearn say “this is not a dream, there is nothing wrong with your tv set, this is actually happening”

by Josie Becker on Jan 25, 2012 9:53 AM PST up reply actions  

We turned the corner that night

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Clippers are 24-9 (.727) in their last 33 games at Staples Center, dating back to last year (includes two road losses to Lakers).

During that same span, Lakers are 27-10 (.730) at Staples Center, including two road losses to the Clippers.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 25, 2012 10:03 AM PST up reply actions  

Home team has won the last four Clippers/Lakers tilts, and 9 of the last 10

by Eric Stephen on Jan 25, 2012 10:07 AM PST up reply actions  

They have also sold over 19,000 tickets every home game since Feb 2nd, 2011. It was curious in the month of Jan, 2011 they had some 17, 000 and 15,000 ticket games, then they sold out to the Bulls on Feb 2nd, went on an 11 game road trip losing 9 of 11 but came home and basically sold out the rest of the season.

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 10:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Clippers lead NBA in Road Attendance

Road attendance is interesting. I’d say for the first time in history the Clippers are averaging more fans on the road then the Lakers 19, 482 compared to 19,329. Still extremely close and to early in the season to mean anything since they have not visited the same places.

In 2010/2011 the Clippers were 7th

In 2009/201 the Clippes were 29th of 30

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 10:24 AM PST up reply actions  

are NBA arenas all about the same size? would it matter who they have played so far? Have the CLippers played more well-attended teams on the road than the lakers have? I’m just curious

by G.Scott on Jan 25, 2012 10:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Clippers have played only four road games:

at Golden State (Christmas night)
at Portland
at San Antonio
at Utah

by Eric Stephen on Jan 25, 2012 10:27 AM PST up reply actions  

so you start with a sellout opening night at that cavernous Oakland Arena, then go to basketball’s three best cities

by Josie Becker on Jan 25, 2012 10:28 AM PST up reply actions  

In capacity

Utah (19,911)
Portland (19,980)
San Antonio (18,581)
Golden State (19,596)

List here

That’s 19,517 average capacity, which is still great for the Clippers who are averaging 35 seats less than capacity using Phil’s numbers. 99.8% ain’t too shabby.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 25, 2012 10:30 AM PST up reply actions  

Curious on the Portland Capacity because based on the box scores the Lakers drew 20, 444 and the Clippers drew 20, 381.

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 10:36 AM PST up reply actions  

the capacity is always deflated the appease the fire marshall, surprising that they’d release figures above capacity though

by Josie Becker on Jan 25, 2012 10:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Could be that Wiki isn’t updated.

I checked the Blazers game notes and it looks like their capacity is 20,510

by Eric Stephen on Jan 25, 2012 10:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes it matters

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 10:28 AM PST up reply actions  

I just finished mine. It was Aramark, and it was delicious.

by G.Scott on Jan 25, 2012 10:04 AM PST up reply actions  

yeah – 20 years makes a big difference my friend

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 10:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Craig gave me a place, but it may be too expensive for us right now. Going to put on a wine event instead. A little easier to put on and a lot less per head. Need to find somewhere in Pasadena area that is going to let us have a private room and will do it classy.

by G.Scott on Jan 25, 2012 10:10 AM PST up reply actions  

I know the owners of a great place in Hollywood

Vintage Enoteca

I know no one in Pasadena

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 10:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Awesome. His clients are in clusters (nature of referrals, I suppose) so he has events either in Pasadena, Beverly Hills, West Side (I think Hollywood would work) and Newport.

by G.Scott on Jan 25, 2012 10:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Sure – give them my name – tell them it is Joe who rides a bike and drinks all of their Italian Reds.

They don’t have a private room, but they have closed the place for private events in the past

there is a wine shop in Alta Dena that has a great cellar for these kind of events too

how many people?

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 10:28 AM PST up reply actions  

10-16, hoping for 40 bucks a head, maybe a 2ish hour event

by G.Scott on Jan 25, 2012 10:35 AM PST up reply actions  

the Alta Dena place sounds promising as well.

by G.Scott on Jan 25, 2012 10:35 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m not sure shutting down your wine bar for 2 hours for 400-600 bucks would be worth it though.

by G.Scott on Jan 25, 2012 10:36 AM PST up reply actions  

depends on the day and the hours probably – but ask them and see what you get

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 10:37 AM PST up reply actions  

done and done. what was the name of the place in Alta Dena?

by G.Scott on Jan 25, 2012 10:51 AM PST up reply actions  

This one looks great. I’ve sent them both inquiries. Thanks for your help, Joe.

by G.Scott on Jan 25, 2012 11:11 AM PST up reply actions  

I know more options if you need it, but would start there

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 11:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah two places is a great start. Thanks again. I have a game this Saturday afternoon or I would see if you wanted to hit the cages.

by G.Scott on Jan 25, 2012 11:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Wghere in Altadena?

Do you mean Mission Wine on Washington in Pasadena?

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by mleadman on Jan 25, 2012 12:07 PM PST up reply actions  

keep reading

mixed up Altadena with Atwater Village

not sure how, but I did

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 12:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Isn’t Beverly Hills closer to the Westside than Hollywood, generally?


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by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

yeah, I remember him referring to “west side” as beverly hills/santa monica. another pocket in south valley being sherman oaks/studio city. I think Hollywood would be central enough for both sets.

by G.Scott on Jan 25, 2012 11:04 AM PST up reply actions  

the original comment was deleted gary

because no subject

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by nolander on Jan 25, 2012 10:24 AM PST up reply actions  

ahhh – How’d I do that?

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 10:26 AM PST up reply actions  

I misread this at first.


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by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 10:55 AM PST up reply actions  

No, biblioteca. ;-)


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by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 10:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Donde esta el biblioteca?

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by Ivdown on Jan 25, 2012 11:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Im getting Bobbi's from Camarillo soon

Bacon, egg, and cheese breakfast burrito…mmmmm

Hopefully it’s good, I’ve never had from there before.

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by Ivdown on Jan 25, 2012 10:11 AM PST up reply actions  

Anthony Bourdain was eating breakfast burritos in L.A. last night on “The Layover.” Forgot the name of the joint.

by kinbote on Jan 25, 2012 10:16 AM PST up reply actions  

he made his own breakfast one morning and I almost flipped out. so many wasted opportunities to go to awesome breakfast joints.

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jan 25, 2012 10:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Dude! Bobbi’s is one of my favorite places to eat! Their burritos rock. Maybe I will grab one on my way over to the Nard this evening.

by Xeifrank on Jan 25, 2012 10:22 AM PST up reply actions  

When I posted that I figured you'd know it

I’m hoping it’s good, and from what i’ve heard about it, I shouldn’t be disappointed.

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by Ivdown on Jan 25, 2012 10:25 AM PST up reply actions  

There’s a good Chinese dim-sum place a couple of doors down and of course Wood Ranch across the street.

by Xeifrank on Jan 25, 2012 10:27 AM PST up reply actions  

I've never been to a Wood Ranch either

I need to get out to more places, lol.

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by Ivdown on Jan 25, 2012 10:28 AM PST up reply actions  

The grilled asparagus and baked potatoes are great sides. It’s a good date or birthday place to eat.

by Xeifrank on Jan 25, 2012 10:31 AM PST up reply actions  

and best of all, Bobbi’s has soccer on their TVs all the time. /Josie

by Xeifrank on Jan 25, 2012 10:28 AM PST up reply actions  

That’s where my 7 year old daughter learned how to make a free kick wall in soccer. I asked her after one of our games, how did you guys know how to make a wall in front of the goal? She said she saw it on the TV at Bobbi’s.

by Xeifrank on Jan 25, 2012 10:33 AM PST up reply actions  

It’s my favorite AM food item round these parts. My coworker and I always go to the same place. They heat the huge flour tortilla, put on eggs, potatoes, and more thick, dark, crispy bacon than anyone should have. We skip the cheese and get salsa on the side (makes it too soggy). It’s really damn good. (I get jalapenos when I’m feeling frisky.)

by kinbote on Jan 25, 2012 10:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Do you guys like superfluous amounts of hash browns in your breakfast burritos? It’s hard to find a place with just the right combo of eggs, meat and potatoes.

by silverwidow on Jan 25, 2012 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

I love potatoes

give me all the potatoes you have

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by nolander on Jan 25, 2012 10:20 AM PST up reply actions  

by the use of the word “superfluous” you already have implied the answer

for me, it is an egg and salsa dish, the potatoes and meat are complementary players

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 10:21 AM PST up reply actions  

I love eggs

give me all the eggs you have

Only a sith deals in absolutes.

by nolander on Jan 25, 2012 10:23 AM PST up reply actions  

I like potatoes in breakfast burritos but I don’t think they are necessary.

I enjoy meat, eggs, and salsa. Potatoes and cheese are welcome as well, but not too much (depending on the level of inebriation I suppose)

by Eric Stephen on Jan 25, 2012 10:25 AM PST up reply actions  

I love meat

give me all the meat you have

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by nolander on Jan 25, 2012 10:25 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

This is one of those quotes that should be screen captured and used out of context over and over again.


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by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 10:59 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

i went there thrice but never committed

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

I just made a breakfast burrito: eggs, bacon, cheese – seasoned with Lawry’s in a flour tortilla

by Josie Becker on Jan 25, 2012 10:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Is that hot sauce?

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by Ivdown on Jan 25, 2012 10:28 AM PST up reply actions  

no

its meat seasoning.

Only a sith deals in absolutes.

by nolander on Jan 25, 2012 10:28 AM PST up reply actions  

but it’s great on eggs, salsa would have taken it in a new direction

by Josie Becker on Jan 25, 2012 10:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh ok

Besides the seasoning that sounds great

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by Ivdown on Jan 25, 2012 10:29 AM PST up reply actions  

You didn’t even know what it was! How do you know if you would or wouldn’t like the seasoning?


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by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

I don’t need fancy extras, i’ve got bacon, egg, and cheese, that combo alone is amazing

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by Ivdown on Jan 25, 2012 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

and MSG

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by mleadman on Jan 25, 2012 12:08 PM PST up reply actions  

keep reading

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by nolander on Jan 25, 2012 12:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

it used to have MSG, but then again what didn’t

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by mleadman on Jan 25, 2012 12:16 PM PST up reply actions  

interesting

I was practically raised on the stuff, wonder when they removed the msg.

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by nolander on Jan 25, 2012 12:17 PM PST up reply actions  

4 years after they said they did

by G.Scott on Jan 25, 2012 12:19 PM PST up reply actions  

bacon in skillet, eggs on top of cooked bacon, Lawry’s, cheese, plate.

by Josie Becker on Jan 25, 2012 10:30 AM PST up reply actions  

you cooked the eggs on top of the bacon?

or just in the bacon grease?

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by nolander on Jan 25, 2012 10:30 AM PST up reply actions  

on top of, just made a big scramble. I usually do it with sausage, but didn’t have any

by Josie Becker on Jan 25, 2012 10:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Must have been some really oily eggs.

by uschris0304 on Jan 25, 2012 10:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Not going to melt tomorrow is it? 87 here

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 10:37 AM PST up reply actions  

forecast calls for low 50s in town today and tomorrow

Will stay in the 40’s on the mountain, then gets colder over the weekend. So should be fine, we are not Big Bear, town is 8500 ft and the Main lodge is at 9000.

by MammothDodger on Jan 25, 2012 10:42 AM PST up reply actions  

damn, this is crazy talk from a LA person born and bred

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 10:45 AM PST up reply actions  

Mammoth is in the Sierra

300 +/- miles up highway 395.

Big bear you can see on a clear day

by MammothDodger on Jan 25, 2012 10:45 AM PST up reply actions  

Mammoth is awesome, love camping there. I really want another Mono Cone.

by uschris0304 on Jan 25, 2012 10:47 AM PST up reply actions  

sadly Mono Cone

is closed in WInter. But on the plus side, Matt Toomey, chef at the Whoa Nellie Deli in Lee Vining opened a to go place in Mammoth. So the best fish tacos in the world are availble to me year round now

by MammothDodger on Jan 25, 2012 10:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Cant remember if I asked you, but did that Bodie Ghost Town survive those high winds? Its still around right?

by uschris0304 on Jan 25, 2012 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Winds plays havoc with ghosts

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 10:55 AM PST up reply actions  

it has stood for a long time

so I would imagine it survived. I have heard nothing to the contrary at least.

by MammothDodger on Jan 25, 2012 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, only thing that hurt it was some fire a long time ago I guess…. yeah I havent been to Mammoth in a long time. Hope to go this summer. Went camping 2 summers there, I just remember the ghost town, mono lake, and the hot springs. Sulfer smells, but love the hot water coming from the ground.

by uschris0304 on Jan 25, 2012 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Big Bear is more near me.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 25, 2012 10:45 AM PST up reply actions  

the local news kept talking about people going up Highway 2 to some resort

by Josie Becker on Jan 25, 2012 10:46 AM PST up reply actions  

ah Mountain High Ski Resort. That’s what I was thinking of

by Josie Becker on Jan 25, 2012 10:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Mammoth is to Mountain High

as the Brazil National team is to the worst team in the MLS

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 10:55 AM PST up reply actions  

I figured, but it’s the closest to LA so it’s the one the local news sends someone to whenever Stormwatch starts every year. Pretty sure I had my confirmation retreat there.

by Josie Becker on Jan 25, 2012 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

channel 7 and 4

have both had crews hear recently, first to say whre the fuck is the snow, then to say it came all at fucking once. people that have been around here awhile call this normal.

by MammothDodger on Jan 25, 2012 10:58 AM PST up reply actions  

It was normal not to have snow by Jan 15th? That did not seem normal.

I miss skiing, it was the one sport my wife and I could do together.

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

you no longer ski?

I see old people in the mountains all the time Phil

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

I could easily ski, but she no longer can (knee problems) so it would suck for me to sneak off and ski knowing how much she would want to.

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 11:02 AM PST up reply actions  

bummer….. I feel for you.

Mrs HJ is semi-retired, she has some knee issues, but she likes to Knit by fireplaces, so it mostly works out

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 11:03 AM PST up reply actions  

I love knitting by a fireplace, with some basketball or hockey on the wireless.

by Josie Becker on Jan 25, 2012 11:04 AM PST up reply actions  

Surprisingly, simply snow shoe hiking and digging tunnels into huge gobs of snow is fun. It is how I first knew I was meercat blood.

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 11:06 AM PST up reply actions  

I like snow shoes, long ago did at least one winter backpacking trip a year for about 5 or 6 years straight, sometimes 3 or 4 trips into the hills

I also like X-country, but have only done that a couple of times at Mt. Pinos

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 11:08 AM PST up reply actions  

no doubt int was dry longer than most years

but there have been several years that were dry well into Dec and at least one since I have been here dry into Jan.

What I meant was snowfall is unpredictable. After last year, which was a serious aberation for a La Nina year, we had people who had been here for a very short time saying since it was La Nina again we could get a 1000 inches of snowfall this year.

Any attempt to predict weather more that 6-10 days out suffers from a huge SSS problem.

by MammothDodger on Jan 25, 2012 11:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Quite likely. There is a retreat house run by nuns in Wrightwood, which Mtn High is just outside of. Way back in the day, I did a retreat there.


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by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 11:08 AM PST up reply actions  

yeah, Mountain High I think is just the closest place to go for snow from the Valleys, and LA.

by uschris0304 on Jan 25, 2012 11:04 AM PST up reply actions  

we really did the surf in the morning and then catch Mountain High in the afternoon or night skiing thing a couple of times just to say we did it

it was fun

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 11:06 AM PST up reply actions  

I remember the 70's too

I did that a few time shortly after getting my drivers license and the family station wagon

by MammothDodger on Jan 25, 2012 11:08 AM PST up reply actions  

the old family wago

one time I blew the radiator hose going up to Mountain High and some rough looking bikers in a pickup truck stopped to help me.

I was a little scared at first, but they fixed my car, gave me and my buddy a lift up to the mountain, fed me a homemade potato and bean burrito, and then drove us back at the end of the day

that is a cherished memory and a huge reminder to take people as they are, instead of how they look

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 11:11 AM PST up reply actions  

Mt Waterman

is on Angeles Crest highway (2)

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by mleadman on Jan 25, 2012 12:10 PM PST up reply actions  

how either of those men functioned in the real world is beyond me

by Josie Becker on Jan 25, 2012 10:45 AM PST up reply actions  

Spud might have had the greatest vertical leap in history

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 10:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Spud Webb is taller than Humma.

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by Nolij on Jan 25, 2012 11:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Also, I can’t function in the real world.

Still chasing the dream of mediocrity

by Humma Kavula on Jan 25, 2012 11:54 AM PST up reply actions  

I can, Spud and I are eye level.

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 11:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Spud is my height. What would the problem be for him in the real world?


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by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 1:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Evidently you and I have trouble functioning in the real world

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Gotta be Spud Web, one of my all time favorite College players.

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 10:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Man I have no memory of him in college. Only the pros, and the slam dunk contest that Dominique should have won (just like against Jordan in 1988)

by Eric Stephen on Jan 25, 2012 10:47 AM PST up reply actions  

From Wiki
NBA Slam Dunk Contest
.
Webb was the shortest person to compete in the NBA Slam Dunk Contest, winning the event in 1986. His participation surprised the media; including his teammate and defending dunk champion Dominique Wilkins, who had “never seen me dunk before,” Webb said. His dunks included the elevator two-handed double pump dunk, the one-handed off the backboard one-handed jam, a 360-degree helicopter one-handed dunk, a 180-degree reverse double-pump slam, and finally, the 180-degree reverse two-handed strawberry jam from a lob bounce off the floor. He defeated Wilkins with two perfect 50-point scores in the final round. Atlanta coach Mike Fratello said, “Spud kind of duped him. He told Wilkins he never had anything prepared, didn’t practice for it. So, Wilkins maybe thought his normal assortment would be good enough to get through”. Twenty years after Webb’s victory in the Slam Dunk contest, he trained New York Knicks point guard Nate Robinson (who stands at 5 feet 9 inches tall) to win the event. Webb tossed the ball to Robinson, who leaped over Webb and dunked, earning 50 points from the judges. Robinson went on to win, making him and Spud the only two people in NBA history under six feet tall to win a slam dunk contest

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 10:47 AM PST up reply actions  

North Carolina State was my favorite team at the time after falling in love with them during the Valvano run to the championship.

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 10:48 AM PST up reply actions  

his dunks were awesome

not sure if Manute could dunk at all, seriuoly Tommy L like hops

by MammothDodger on Jan 25, 2012 10:47 AM PST up reply actions  

look at those legs!

so skinny if he jumped any higher they would shatter on landing

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by nolander on Jan 25, 2012 10:48 AM PST up reply actions  

I know, figured most had no idea who Spud was

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 10:49 AM PST up reply actions  

hell yeah, Spud Webb and Dominque Wilkins, classic Hawks for me.

by uschris0304 on Jan 25, 2012 10:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Wilkins was the Clipper who helped them turn the corner

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

on the way to Psyclone?

by The Stuntmen on Jan 25, 2012 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

The corner turned into a dead end street, but you retrace and try another route.

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 11:04 AM PST up reply actions  

and wind up at Roaring Rapids?

by The Stuntmen on Jan 25, 2012 12:00 PM PST up reply actions  

and bounce back

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 25, 2012 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm already sick of draft talk

and the football season isn’t even over yet

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by nolander on Jan 25, 2012 11:04 AM PST reply actions  

I hear ya - I tell myself

you don’t have to watch

they have to fill airwaves

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 11:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, and the dam draft isnt until end of April, so still a long way to go to hear about it daily…. Wonder why they dont have draft end of February, or early March, get it over with.

by uschris0304 on Jan 25, 2012 11:11 AM PST up reply actions  

because money

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by nolander on Jan 25, 2012 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

There’s more sports going on in April than in late Feb. Hockey and Basketball in both periods, but you also have baseball in April. Seems like late Feb would be a better time to “cash in” on the exhiliration that is the NFL draft.

by Michael White on Jan 25, 2012 11:19 AM PST up reply actions  

yeah I agree… The NBA Finals is in June, Draft is in July. Though I know NBA has a much shorter offseason as well. Anyways, would like to know where the NFL came up with April for its draft, basically 3 months after SB.

by uschris0304 on Jan 25, 2012 11:22 AM PST up reply actions  

they start cashing in as soon as the super bowl is over

they have a nonstop amount of draft talk and buzz for two months. Not sure if the boost they would get in tv ratings for the actual draft itself earlier would offset that.

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by nolander on Jan 25, 2012 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Right, but hasnt the NFL Draft been in April for as long as there has been a draft?? Before ESPN and all the coverage stuff?

by uschris0304 on Jan 25, 2012 11:25 AM PST up reply actions  

ah, a buddy of mine said maybe its because of school…. so players can “finish school”… Otherwise some would just drop out right after being drafted in February. That is probably it I think.

by uschris0304 on Jan 25, 2012 11:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Which probably also explains why baseball draft is in June, when HS is out…. and NBA draft is in July when school is out.

by uschris0304 on Jan 25, 2012 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

For baseball, it’s more about getting high school and college kids into workouts outside of a competitive setting.

For basketball, it’s when the season ends.

Football makes no sense.

by G.Scott on Jan 25, 2012 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

I think it’s to maximize Mel Kiper’s visibility.

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by Nolij on Jan 25, 2012 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

It all fits into their off-season plans

Free agency starts in March, workouts begin then. There is the combine in February but the top players don’t workout there, they workout at their schools in Feb – April.

More importantly, it keeps football talk going on throughout the year.

by bhsportsguy on Jan 25, 2012 11:39 AM PST up reply actions  

The top players certainly do workout at the combine

some of them don’t, but most do.

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by nolander on Jan 25, 2012 11:40 AM PST up reply actions  

got these networks that need to fill airtime

got these ads that need to be scene

got these people who will watch it rather than doing something else

sounds like money to me

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 11:40 AM PST up reply actions  

his hair does that already

I do admire his ability to make a thing out of his thing

The Football Scientist on ESPN pretty cool too

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 11:39 AM PST up reply actions  

It makes sense for the reasons I said above

I don’t like it, but it is what it is.

Only a sith deals in absolutes.

by nolander on Jan 25, 2012 11:37 AM PST up reply actions  

For most fans right now though, it's all we have to "look forward to" sad though that may sound.

At least in the near future. Draft is overhyped but it’s still important. Though chris shouldn’t have to worry about it too much. ;0)

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by underdog on Jan 25, 2012 11:40 AM PST up reply actions  

many texans fans will tell you its the highlight of our season

I won’t because thats stupid, but its a thing.

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by nolander on Jan 25, 2012 11:41 AM PST up reply actions  

I like the draft, because if you are a Steeler fan you have come to rely on it

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 11:44 AM PST up reply actions  

I enjoy it

but I don’t want to watch X player get hyped for a month, then see Y player get drafted, see everyone flip their lidsa t first becuase they thought we where getting X, only to find out Y is actually also highly rated and turns out to be the better player or just as good..

You can insert Cameron Jordan for X and JJ Watt for Y. Or matthews and cushing respectively.

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by nolander on Jan 25, 2012 11:52 AM PST up reply actions  

I have no reason to watch this year, since the Raiders don’t pick until May or so.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 25, 2012 11:43 AM PST up reply actions  

you could trade up!

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by nolander on Jan 25, 2012 11:48 AM PST up reply actions  

hehe

yeah that was my joke for chris above.

yeah, joe, that’s how others should model themselves, after how the steelers have done it.

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by underdog on Jan 25, 2012 11:48 AM PST up reply actions  

(Especially with so many free agency busts, or unwieldy contracts)

really respect teams that have built up primarily through good scouting and drafting

anyway, mel kiper can go stuff himself, but i still enjoy following draft.

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by underdog on Jan 25, 2012 11:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Why I stopped watching ESPN:

year round football coverage that usually trumps baseball even in the offseason.

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by Ivdown on Jan 25, 2012 11:43 AM PST up reply actions  

current breakdown, according to deadspin
NFL: 225.5 minutes (40.2%)
NBA: 106.5 (19%)
College basketball: 76 (13.6%)
College football: 55 (9.8%)
MLB: 16.75 (2.9%)
NHL: 13.5 (2.4%)
Other sports: 18 (3.2%)
SportsCenter staples (things like the “Top 10,” “Encore,” “What 2 Watch 4,” etc.): 48.75 (8.7%)

source

by Josie Becker on Jan 25, 2012 11:45 AM PST up reply actions  

like.. RIGHT NOW?

question is what is it during baseball season

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by nolander on Jan 25, 2012 11:49 AM PST up reply actions  

NFL might come down to a more reasonable 25%, NBA and MLB switch would be my guess

by Josie Becker on Jan 25, 2012 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

I wonder what this looks like in April or May

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by Ivdown on Jan 25, 2012 11:56 AM PST up reply actions  

I can relate to that. Can we not give football a rest when they are not in season? Geez.

by OB12 on Jan 25, 2012 11:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Anyone ever snowsled down a hill with their dog?

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 11:10 AM PST reply actions  

nope, I dont want to give my dog a heart attack.

by uschris0304 on Jan 25, 2012 11:12 AM PST up reply actions  

my dog loved the snow, but that is something we didn’t do

he was also 90 lbs. I did get him to mush for about a 100 yards but that was it

sounds fun

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 11:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Love the scarf

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 11:37 AM PST up reply actions  

and walking stick

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 11:57 AM PST up reply actions  

you've got an eye for quality

made it myself, in the woods of North Carolina, with the same dog, in the winter of 2003

this was thanksgiving weekend a few years back in Idlewild.

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 11:59 AM PST up reply actions  

He was well fed

It's gettin' so a businessman can't expect no return from a fixed fight. Now, if you can't trust a fix, what can you trust?

by mleadman on Jan 25, 2012 12:12 PM PST up reply actions  

yes, these were his comfort years

this hike was his last great adventure, he has to be 10 years old at the time. Busted his butt on one heck of a hike. Slept for like 16 hours the next day. Mrs HJ and the Dachshund was also along for the hike, she calls it the “Thanksgiving Death March” to this day

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 12:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I like how you had the Dachshund take the photo since Mrs HJ was probably sitting on a rock.

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 12:16 PM PST up reply actions  

my kids have tried

without much success at keeping our dog on the sled.

by MammothDodger on Jan 25, 2012 11:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Nope. My dogs probably wouldn’t take to that. I have friends whose dogs do love the SeaDoo ride though.


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by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

From the Clips Nation preview

Kobe’s 38.8% usage rate this season is the highest in the history of the stat.

by Michael White on Jan 25, 2012 11:16 AM PST reply actions  

For reference

Usage Rate is a percentage

Usage Percentage (available since the 1977-78 season in the NBA); the formula is 100 * ((FGA + 0.44 * FTA + TOV) * (Tm MP / 5)) / (MP * (Tm FGA + 0.44 * Tm FTA + Tm TOV)). Usage percentage is an estimate of the percentage of team plays used by a player while he was on the floor.

Kobe was at 38.7% in 2005-2006 when he led the league in scoring at 35.4 points per game. This year Kobe is at 38.8%, and for his career he is at 31.7%. Kobe led the league in usage rate in 2006 and 2011 (35.1%).

Jordan’s usage rate when he scored 3,000 points (37.1 ppg in 1987) was 38.3%, his career high and one of eight times Jordan led the NBA in the stat. For his career, Jordan’s usage rate was 33.3%.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 25, 2012 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Kevin Love signed a 4 year extension today. He said he would have gone 5 but the team only wanted to give him 4.

Umm, what the hell TWolves?

by G.Scott on Jan 25, 2012 11:20 AM PST reply actions  

The TWolves are stupid.

by Michael White on Jan 25, 2012 11:21 AM PST up reply actions  

Love Love Love

He’d be my favorite Laker the moment he joined the team

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 11:22 AM PST up reply actions  

The Houston Love

It's gettin' so a businessman can't expect no return from a fixed fight. Now, if you can't trust a fix, what can you trust?

by mleadman on Jan 25, 2012 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

The Houston Whitney’s

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

The Houston Tony Montana’s

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Jan 25, 2012 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

The Houston Over-Actors

It's gettin' so a businessman can't expect no return from a fixed fight. Now, if you can't trust a fix, what can you trust?

by mleadman on Jan 25, 2012 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Houston Hotel Room Hookers

"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."

by Pure Azure on Jan 25, 2012 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Houston Hugh Grants

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Jan 25, 2012 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Now a trade to the Lakers for Pau would be more plausible because of the salaries.

by ishXdavid on Jan 25, 2012 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Too lazy to reply to exact comments so here they all are.

1. Andre Ethier joins a long list of players who thought they could play through something but end up getting surgery later. A pox on Andre for that.

2. I heartily endorse Vintage Enoteca. Wonderful people there.

3. I am glad to see that someone here watches local news.

4. This is my take on the whole Clipper/Laker thing, for right now, this season, there is something to these games. You can’t compare this Clipper team to any other team in their past because Paul and Billups bring a dimension and presence lacking in their history. Will go beyond this season, let’s hope so for LA, it will add a new dimension to the NBA.

5. Lucky Boy on Arroyo in Pasadena still makes the best breakfast burrito.

6. Seeing those seasoned salt shakers at Lawry’s Carvery at LA Live the other day reminds me of the old California Center and of course, Lawry’s Prime Rib. I don’t use the salt that often anymore but it was a stable back in the day.

by bhsportsguy on Jan 25, 2012 11:22 AM PST reply actions  

Awesome! I’m definitely looking into Vintage Enoteca first.

by G.Scott on Jan 25, 2012 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

I read that as Vintage Erotica.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 25, 2012 11:30 AM PST up reply actions  

As did I. And I thought it was great that BH was heartily endorsing it.

by kinbote on Jan 25, 2012 11:34 AM PST up reply actions  

The porn these days leaves nothing to the imagination!

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by Nolij on Jan 25, 2012 11:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Bettie Page FTW!

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by underdog on Jan 25, 2012 11:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Okay to be honest

the first time I met HJ there (and it is in Hollywood on Sunset Blvd). I saw the sign and thought, hey did HJ send me to an adult book store.

Then I saw the wine.

An aside, the owners are two very lovely women who are both knowledgeable about wine and very personable.

by bhsportsguy on Jan 25, 2012 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Do you think it’s something that would be offputting to high-yield clients?

by G.Scott on Jan 25, 2012 11:39 AM PST up reply actions  

an adult book store look

by G.Scott on Jan 25, 2012 11:45 AM PST up reply actions  

it doesn’t look like an adult bookstore – it looks like a charming wine bar / cafe

the dirty minds on this site can’t read. if the invite says local wine bar Vintage Enoteca (Italian for wine store) then I think you are safe

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 11:47 AM PST up reply actions  

I thought Erotica from the get go.

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 11:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Gary’s clients might be bummed if at first glance they think he took them to an upscale erotica store only to find out it was a wine cafe. Emotional roller coaster:

awesome
disappointment
this is cool
awesome

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 11:49 AM PST up reply actions  

I have taken about a half dozen business meetings there and have never had that fear

I even invited women clients there without issue

Maybe we all should just call it Vintage from now on

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 11:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes it does look like that

it is really a great place, hope to go back soon, like maybe tonight.

by bhsportsguy on Jan 25, 2012 11:52 AM PST up reply actions  

since I’ve decided to go all in with this cut the chord business, local news is how I see sports highlights.

by Josie Becker on Jan 25, 2012 11:37 AM PST up reply actions  

it’s crystal baby, compares quite favorably at least the U-verse’s HD. And the sound is mixed much higher, makes for a richer experience all together

by Josie Becker on Jan 25, 2012 11:39 AM PST up reply actions  

I visited a friend of mine a few weeks back and he did the same thing, ditching DirecTV. I had no idea you could get an HD picture over the air.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 25, 2012 11:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Vintage erotica?

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 25, 2012 11:41 AM PST up reply actions  

what chord did you cut?

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 11:39 AM PST up reply actions  

The diameter would be a good choice.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 25, 2012 11:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Insist on a perpendicular cut into two equal pieces and you can guarantee the usage of a diameter.


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by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 2:20 PM PST up reply actions  

the cable chord. I’m trying to make OTA my habit so when I move out I don’t need to buy cable

by Josie Becker on Jan 25, 2012 11:40 AM PST up reply actions  

soccer games are OTA?

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 11:41 AM PST up reply actions  

I have been investing time getting to known the Mexican Premiera Division, I will admit.

by Josie Becker on Jan 25, 2012 11:41 AM PST up reply actions  

¡Vomonos Tigres!

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by Nolij on Jan 25, 2012 11:43 AM PST up reply actions  

the money I save not paying a cable bill I could put into a mini plan, plus KCAL (let’s hope), and radio is still an option. Plus, if I do get on with __, I may never have to buy tickets again : )

by Josie Becker on Jan 25, 2012 11:41 AM PST up reply actions  

I don't think you understood my question

There are 162 Dodgers games. 162 of them need to be seen. Not saying 100% is always achieved, but the option has to be there.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 25, 2012 11:44 AM PST up reply actions  

I hear what you’re saying, I really do. I’m just, I’m trying to find a balance. When I reach a financial point where I’m just sitting on money, then I’ll revisit

by Josie Becker on Jan 25, 2012 11:47 AM PST up reply actions  

I respect the decision to want to cut costs.

There is always the option of only having cable from April through September, and go six months without during the offseason. :)

by Eric Stephen on Jan 25, 2012 11:49 AM PST up reply actions  

I mean really for me, I’ve noticed once I stopped thinking I needed to see the sitcoms on FX, IFC, BBC America, and Comedy Central I haven’t missed them

ESPN and the RSNs are the reason to get cable, but with ESPN3 streaming it comes down to just RSNs

and emotion divorced, it seems silly to pay for 1000 channels to watch two

by Josie Becker on Jan 25, 2012 11:53 AM PST up reply actions  

hulu has you covered anyways

or netflix a year later for bbc america

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by nolander on Jan 25, 2012 11:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes it does, I was bummed that Obama did not address that last night. It is my number one issue.

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 11:55 AM PST up reply actions  

I'll let you know if my proxy stuff works out

then you can just use your computer

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by nolander on Jan 25, 2012 11:50 AM PST up reply actions  

You mean if your stealing pans out?

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

its illegal and possibly immoral

but its not stealing

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by nolander on Jan 25, 2012 11:53 AM PST up reply actions  

I need to frame this

It's gettin' so a businessman can't expect no return from a fixed fight. Now, if you can't trust a fix, what can you trust?

by mleadman on Jan 25, 2012 12:14 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah I won’t be doing anything against the law. When I was a kid I thought people who stole cable were evil

by Josie Becker on Jan 25, 2012 11:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Sounds like what he wants to do

is pay for something like MLB.TV but use a proxy that shows that he is sitting in a non-blackout area.

by bhsportsguy on Jan 25, 2012 12:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I bet Prime Ticket is like “sweet, that’s awesome, go do that!” #not

by Josie Becker on Jan 25, 2012 12:01 PM PST up reply actions  

MLB.TV Premium is $119.99 a year or $24.99 a month, and regular MLB.TV is at $99.99 or $19.99

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by nolander on Jan 25, 2012 12:04 PM PST up reply actions  

yes

because blackout rules are stupid and I hate them, even if they are the things that allow the team to get 3 billion dollars from Fox

Only a sith deals in absolutes.

by nolander on Jan 25, 2012 12:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Ah, I am totally behind your plan.

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 12:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Wouldn’t it be easier to simply find a man to take care of you?

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 11:41 AM PST up reply actions  

beat me to the punch

I was looking forward to that call back

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 11:42 AM PST up reply actions  

it’s LA! Where am I gonna meet a man unless I hit him with my car? : )

by Josie Becker on Jan 25, 2012 11:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Sellers at this best or worst?

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 11:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Can I vote neither?

How about his most unique.

I love that movie.

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 11:45 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes you may.

I also love that movie

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 11:47 AM PST up reply actions  

its a good barometer – that film

I like to watch

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 11:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Nice.

I enjoyed it as well.


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by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

cut the chord business

You flat all the third and make all the majors minors??


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by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

i just assumed she was studying to become a labor and delivery nurse

by G.Scott on Jan 25, 2012 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

THAT’S NOT A CHORD!


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by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 2:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I’d have offered you all some prime rib but by the time I remembered it was all gone

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 11:39 AM PST up reply actions  

We miss the old California Center too. Had a few fun dinners out on that patio. Probably was overprices for what it was, but the atmosphere was totally SoCal.


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by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

In 1995

the Mariners turned down a trade that would have sent Tino Martinez and a reliever (Jeff Nelson, Bill Risley, or Bobby Ayala) for Sterling Hitchcock and Jorge Posada.

Soon after, the Mariners sent Tino Martinez, Jeff Nelson, and Jim Mecir for Sterling Hitchcock and Russ Davis.

Ouch

by Eric Stephen on Jan 25, 2012 12:00 PM PST reply actions  

ha ha, I do remember the much hyped Russ Davis. For a while after that he was the poster boy for over hyped Yankee prospects that got hoisted onto other teams.

The Mariners at least had Jay Buhner for a while to remind themselves they were not complete idiots.

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 12:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Jay Buhner one of my favorite players of the 90’s.

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 12:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I was a Buhner fan.

Is Jayson Werth a stretch as a comp? Werth is a better fielder, but they remind me of each other. Maybe it’s their swings.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 25, 2012 12:04 PM PST up reply actions  

always thought jay buhner and mark mcgwire had similar swings

by G.Scott on Jan 25, 2012 12:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m pretty sure I had Davis on a fantasy team or two.

Those Mariners, damn. That trade, and two years later at the trade deadline…Derek Lowe and Jason Varitek for Heathcliff Solcumb. Just absolute killers.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 25, 2012 12:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Fuck em, they stole A-Rod from us

by Michael White on Jan 25, 2012 12:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Counter point taken and noted. MW prevails.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 25, 2012 12:04 PM PST up reply actions  

The Mariners got theirs in the end, famously becoming The Team That Did the Least with the Most Talent™.

Still chasing the dream of mediocrity

by Humma Kavula on Jan 25, 2012 12:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Mid 90s Indians want in on that action

by Michael White on Jan 25, 2012 12:07 PM PST up reply actions  

and 2011 Philadelphia Phillies

by G.Scott on Jan 25, 2012 12:09 PM PST up reply actions  

You can talk about single-year teams, sure, but I mean over a period of years. The late-oughts Phillies have a WS win and another WS appearance. The late-90s Mariners got to a couple of LCSs and blew it.

Still chasing the dream of mediocrity

by Humma Kavula on Jan 25, 2012 12:11 PM PST up reply actions  

The Indians went to the WS twice in the mid-90s. The Mariners are still looking for their first LCS win.

Still chasing the dream of mediocrity

by Humma Kavula on Jan 25, 2012 12:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Tipping point in your favor

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 12:10 PM PST up reply actions  

someone just gave Gladwell a penny

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 12:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Ya, I guess I was defining it as “world series win or bust”

by Michael White on Jan 25, 2012 12:10 PM PST up reply actions  

stole seems to not be the case

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 12:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Possession is 9/10 of the draft.

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by Humma Kavula on Jan 25, 2012 12:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Only in the same way the Dodgers stole home field advantage from the A’s in the 1988 World Series.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 25, 2012 12:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Not that we needed it:)

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 12:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Delias Man once told me that the Mariners were a coin flip between Dreifort and Rodriguez. Damn coins!

by Michael White on Jan 25, 2012 12:07 PM PST up reply actions  

The Lakers won a coin flip with the Chicago Bulls for the first pick in 1979.

Whew.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 25, 2012 12:08 PM PST up reply actions  

You believe him? That they would take a college reliever over the best high school SS anyone had ever seen?

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 12:09 PM PST up reply actions  

He’s old enough to remember, I’m not.

So, yes.

by Michael White on Jan 25, 2012 12:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Myth

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 12:10 PM PST up reply actions  

The reality is that ten old fucks were sitting around the table. They started asking about who they should draft in the second round when some young whippersnapper says maybe we should consider taking the Witchita Sate kid and the nine other folk said STFU.

That punk kid then started spreading rumors it was coin flip.

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 12:13 PM PST up reply actions  

This article

seems to say that while the Mariners thought about Dreifort, they chose A-Rod.

Manager Lou Piniella felt that Dreifort, a near-ready college pitcher, represented a quick-fix possibility for his bullpen.

“In some ways Dreifort made more sense,” Jongewaard said, "but we kept going back to see Alex and felt he was just too special not to take.

“He called the night before the draft and said he wanted to play for the Dodgers, but I said I was sorry, we’d made a decision.”

by bhsportsguy on Jan 25, 2012 12:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Ross Newhan

is a reliable source:

While the Dodgers waited in the No. 2 position, the Seattle Mariners, who have the first pick in today’s amateur draft, reversed their field Wednesday, deciding to take shortstop Alex Rodriguez of Miami’s Westminster Christian High over Wichita State relief pitcher Darren Dreifort, who will now be selected by the Dodgers.

The Mariners had been leaning toward Dreifort as a pitcher who could become the bullpen closer when Norm Charlton possibly leaves as a free agent after the 1994 season. However, a club official said Wednesday that the Mariners were now favoring Rodriguez because of his potential as an everyday player and the physical gamble involved in drafting a pitcher. Roger Salkeld, the club’s No. 1 pick from Saugus High in 1989, had reconstructive shoulder surgery in 1992.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 25, 2012 12:11 PM PST up reply actions  

So is Tim Kurkjian

from SI:

The Mariners, who held the first pick in the free-agent amateur draft last Thursday, considered making Wichita State reliever Darren Dreifort the No. 1 choice because he probably could have helped them in a pennant drive this year. But in the end Seattle chose Miami high school shortstop Alex Rodriguez because his raw talent was too great to pass up

by Eric Stephen on Jan 25, 2012 12:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Neither story says anything about a coin flip, just a bunch of men who finally came around to the only possible decision.

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 12:17 PM PST up reply actions  

I think it was much closer to a coin flip at the time than you are remembering.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 25, 2012 12:19 PM PST up reply actions  

A coin flip is a coin flip and this was not a coin flip.

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 12:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Was it a roll of the dice?

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by Humma Kavula on Jan 25, 2012 12:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Did they play Rock Paper Scissors?

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by Humma Kavula on Jan 25, 2012 12:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Did it come down to Eenie Meenie Miney Moe?

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by Humma Kavula on Jan 25, 2012 12:21 PM PST up reply actions  

One Potato Two Potato

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 12:23 PM PST up reply actions  

damn

what was the name of the game with the baseball bat, where you’d toss it to the other guy and go hand over hand until someone topped the bat and they got to be home team?

Bottle cap?

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 12:24 PM PST up reply actions  

I’d also love the name of that game.

We did not do it for home team, we did it to see who got to pick first. It was always a sad game for some. In time it came to be known as Humma Time.

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 12:26 PM PST up reply actions  

It will come as no surprise to anyone that I was always the last picked.

I got my revenge in fourth grade kickball. The captain of the other team and possessor of a mighty left foot mocked me as he did not pick me. Somehow I was chosen to roll to him. He mocked me again. I rolled it to him real good, his left foot reared back and he shot it directly into my waiting arms. He was out. Then he moved away and I forgot his name.

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by Humma Kavula on Jan 25, 2012 12:29 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Awesoke

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 12:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Cue “Wing beneath my wings”

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 12:30 PM PST up reply actions  

That is a stumper, but a great game.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 25, 2012 12:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Trivia Time

Get the upper hand
Meaning
Take a dominant position.

Origin
Various suggestions have been made as to the origin of ‘get the upper hand’ (or ‘take the upper hand’). Prominent amongst those is that the phrase originated in American playgrounds, in the way that children select sides for impromptu baseball games. The method is for one team captain to grab the bat at the bottom, then the other captain takes hold above the first’s hand and they progress hand over hand along the bat until the top is reached – the one left holding the bat having the ‘upper hand’ and getting first choice of player for their team.

by G.Scott on Jan 25, 2012 12:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Out Josied by Gary

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 12:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, no way that was what we called it.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 25, 2012 12:32 PM PST up reply actions  

We called it “wanna choose teams?”

we didn’t have a name for it, we just knew what to do.

jeez, that sounds like a line from a bad romance novel.

by G.Scott on Jan 25, 2012 12:33 PM PST up reply actions  

sounds cheesy and full of innuendo

by G.Scott on Jan 25, 2012 12:36 PM PST up reply actions  

cheesy and full of innuendo

Just another night at Chez Kavula

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by Humma Kavula on Jan 25, 2012 12:36 PM PST up reply actions  

It was a simpler time.

When Smear the Queer was an acceptable name for a game to say out loud.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 25, 2012 12:35 PM PST up reply actions  

man, i hated getting smeared

by G.Scott on Jan 25, 2012 12:36 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t believe for a minute that that’s where the phrase “get the upper hand” comes from.

Generally speaking, if you have an idiom, there is not a cute story that gets attached to explain that idiom.

I think it’s just a general feeling up “upper” = “stronger.”

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by Humma Kavula on Jan 25, 2012 12:35 PM PST up reply actions  

that explanation is from the Encyclopedia of Word and Phrase origins, but also includes:

It probably derives from an English game of chance that has been traced back to the 15th century and was played in the same way as the sandlot choosing contest

by Josie Becker on Jan 25, 2012 12:42 PM PST up reply actions  

the Brits can stick it up their arses, its ours, ours, ours, and even if it was theirs its now ours, like their musicians, their language, and their pluck

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 12:44 PM PST up reply actions  

I’d see what J.E. Lighter has to say in the Dictionary of American Slang but I don’t have the volume that includes “U.” I only have the first two volumes that Random House published. Did he ever finish that dictionary?

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by Humma Kavula on Jan 25, 2012 12:45 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t think we ever got volume III, you’re right

by Josie Becker on Jan 25, 2012 12:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Random House was supposed to publish the third and final volume in 1997. That didn’t happen.

Then Oxford University Press was supposed to publish volume 3 (P-S) in 2006 (then 2008), but it never happened as far as I can tell.

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by Humma Kavula on Jan 25, 2012 12:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Geckos

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 12:53 PM PST up reply actions  

We simply called it “top the bat”.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

But what did you call the game for picking teams?

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 25, 2012 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

So I have a mini plan. Should I just suck it up and upgrade to season tickets. It seems like with the perks this year it would be worth it. Plus with new access I could just stroll down to the field level every night

by The Stuntmen on Jan 25, 2012 12:05 PM PST reply actions  

Really depends on your availability to attend the games. If you can make it to 70+ games, I would say go for it.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 25, 2012 12:06 PM PST up reply actions  

mini plan is for 15 games. Season tickets are twice as much. So I would only need to attend 30+ to break even. I have a 3 and a half year old that loves to go, but we like to show up early and he suckers one of the players into giving him a ball every time. Problem is with a mini plan we would get nowhere near the field. With season tickets they would let us in early. Sounds like a no brainer but $500 is still $500

by The Stuntmen on Jan 25, 2012 12:11 PM PST up reply actions  

sell the games you can’t/don’t attend

by G.Scott on Jan 25, 2012 12:11 PM PST up reply actions  

or just find a partr and split them. keepyour 15 games, get all the perks

by G.Scott on Jan 25, 2012 12:12 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah partner backed out. I was going to do this. I just suspect this might be the last time season tickets are affordable

by The Stuntmen on Jan 25, 2012 12:13 PM PST up reply actions  

It will be, you should get the tickets, when they are in last place in Aug you will have no trouble sitting at the field level for every game.

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 12:14 PM PST up reply actions  

But it does mean the resale value of the rest of the tickets starts to approach zero.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

seems like that would be tough to do, without much demand for tickets to these games, no?

by uschris0304 on Jan 25, 2012 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 12:06 PM PST up reply actions  

still would have to deal with DS’ notorious no seat hopping ushers

by Josie Becker on Jan 25, 2012 12:06 PM PST up reply actions  

In the past they are easy, you probably just looked like you did not belong:)

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 12:07 PM PST up reply actions  

you actually have had a problem with this? I have never had a problem as long as I don’t try to sneak into baseline box or something

by The Stuntmen on Jan 25, 2012 12:12 PM PST up reply actions  

well they have the people at the top of the row checking tickets, though I guess you can just walk past them if you’re Conny enough

by Josie Becker on Jan 25, 2012 12:13 PM PST up reply actions  

they don’t bother me at all. Of course i have a little kid distraction. Or maybe it was because the ushers were as apathetic as the fans last year

by The Stuntmen on Jan 25, 2012 12:17 PM PST up reply actions  

IF this is true...Holy $hit
RT @JonHeymanCBS: LA billionaire Patrick SoonShiong (who bought magic’s 4.5% stake in lakers), will likely join johnson-kasten dodgers group

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Jan 25, 2012 12:08 PM PST reply actions  

We have a clear winner

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 12:09 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ve been wondering why he was not into this party

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 12:09 PM PST up reply actions  

That is a rock solid group, it seems.

by OB12 on Jan 25, 2012 12:12 PM PST up reply actions  

The guy who a few months ago said he didn’t like baseball all that much?

by G.Scott on Jan 25, 2012 12:09 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah, well, the Tigers were definitely not signing Prince Fielder, so.. we know how that goes. ;)

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by underdog on Jan 25, 2012 12:11 PM PST up reply actions  

the Tigers GM said they were out on Fielder (and were) until Victor Martinez went down. This guy was asked months ago if he was interested in buying the Dodgers and he basically said “no, I like basketball”.

That said, there’s a lot of ammo in that 3 gauge

by G.Scott on Jan 25, 2012 12:15 PM PST up reply actions  

no the tigers gm said that 6 days ago

victor went down 8 days ago. I think I have the timeline righ there.

Only a sith deals in absolutes.

by nolander on Jan 25, 2012 12:16 PM PST up reply actions  

two days after he went down they could have still been out

course, i’m likely wrong here.

doesn’t change the fact that he’s being broht in for his money, and if only his money is being invested, all he’s going to care about is his money.

Magic and Kasten I’m behind.

by G.Scott on Jan 25, 2012 12:18 PM PST up reply actions  

entirely too much credence is put into what people say in public around here

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 12:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Especially since what people say in public is largely scripted by assholes like me.

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by Humma Kavula on Jan 25, 2012 12:19 PM PST up reply actions  

for a purpose

only fools and madmen say something in public without a purpose

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 12:23 PM PST up reply actions  

color me a madman

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 12:24 PM PST up reply actions  

sometimes a spade is a spade

most often a spade is a dirty liar

Only a sith deals in absolutes.

by nolander on Jan 25, 2012 12:19 PM PST up reply actions  

or a guy with movies not worth seeing unless they also involve Chris Farley.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 25, 2012 12:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Just Shoot Me is still one of my favorite shows

by G.Scott on Jan 25, 2012 12:21 PM PST up reply actions  

you don’t need to like baseball to like making money

by court168627 on Jan 25, 2012 12:18 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

and like to be the swinging dick in LA

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 12:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Probably a billion different things you can do with a billion dollars to make more money then purchase a sports franchise.

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 12:19 PM PST up reply actions  

think of the prestige!

its like collecting art, its a rare item.

Only a sith deals in absolutes.

by nolander on Jan 25, 2012 12:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes, as HJ said the big dick in the room has lots of appeal but lets not equate investing a billion dollars as a money making scheme compared to other things he can do with that billion dollars.

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 12:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I would argue he won't lose money on it

but I won’t go past that.

Only a sith deals in absolutes.

by nolander on Jan 25, 2012 12:23 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s no trick to make a lot of money if all you want to do is make a lot of money.

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by Humma Kavula on Jan 25, 2012 12:24 PM PST up reply actions  

this is michael jordan doing a ballet move

http://www.nba.com/jordan/hoop_mjonmj.html

It’s like my logo. I wasn’t even dunking on that one. People think that I was. I just stood on the floor, jumped up and spread my legs and they took the picture. I wasn’t even running. Everyone thought I did that by running and taking off. Actually, it was a ballet move where I jumped up and spread my legs. And I was holding the ball in my left hand.

Only a sith deals in absolutes.

by nolander on Jan 25, 2012 12:24 PM PST reply actions  

I could have sworn there is video of the photo shoot of that pose/logo all the way back in Come Fly With Me.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 25, 2012 12:25 PM PST up reply actions  

this?

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by nolander on Jan 25, 2012 12:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Come Fly With Me is a pretty amazing NBA video, right up there with the 1980s classics Dazzling Dunks and Basketball Bloopers, Superstars, The Drive For Five, Back To Back, and eventually Always Showtime.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 25, 2012 12:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh yeah, there was also Awesome Endings.

[insert joke here]

by Eric Stephen on Jan 25, 2012 12:28 PM PST up reply actions  

There’s more than joke insertion going on.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

the more he talks

the less he plays

the less likable he becomes

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 12:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh, look, now Killebrew is fighting with Jerry West over who it is. Crazy!

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by Humma Kavula on Jan 25, 2012 12:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Something I didn't know

in 1992, the Clippers were considering a logo change. True story:

by Josie Becker on Jan 25, 2012 12:36 PM PST reply actions  

The Houston Logo Changes

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by Humma Kavula on Jan 25, 2012 12:37 PM PST up reply actions  

The Houston ®s

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by Humma Kavula on Jan 25, 2012 12:37 PM PST up reply actions  

The Houston Belles

by G.Scott on Jan 25, 2012 12:38 PM PST up reply actions  

nothing wrong with

The Houston Clippers

if the shoe fits

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 12:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Best thing about the Whalers logo

is the negative-space H:

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by Humma Kavula on Jan 25, 2012 12:44 PM PST up reply actions  

and upside-down mustache.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 25, 2012 12:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Houston 68’ers and I’ll owe her one later

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Jan 25, 2012 12:46 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

like those test they use to give me

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 12:45 PM PST up reply actions  

E {

when turned sideways.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

heard they were turning the corner then

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 12:38 PM PST up reply actions  

The Houston Corner Turners

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 12:38 PM PST up reply actions  

The Houston Turned Corner

It's gettin' so a businessman can't expect no return from a fixed fight. Now, if you can't trust a fix, what can you trust?

by mleadman on Jan 25, 2012 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

No one cares

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 12:57 PM PST up reply actions  

you don’t even find this mildly interesting what if stuff?

by Josie Becker on Jan 25, 2012 12:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Delias might, but it is coin flip

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

working hard, semi-call back

I see you

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Uh-oh

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

and really

were you even alive to know?

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 12:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I would have been seven, so not really. Apparently it was official enough to make it into some style guides, but they scrapped plans before the season started.

by Josie Becker on Jan 25, 2012 12:43 PM PST up reply actions  

How bad would Dwight Howard have kicked the hell out of Jermaine O’Neal last night if shit really broke bad?

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Jan 25, 2012 12:38 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

Breaking bad will get you 5-10

by G.Scott on Jan 25, 2012 12:39 PM PST up reply actions  

first “throw hands”

now “broke bad”

dude – you are the best

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 12:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m just the generic version of you HJ

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Jan 25, 2012 12:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Costs way less, tastes a little worse but still totally worth it.

by fbihop on Jan 25, 2012 12:44 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

plus I’m made with real bits of panther so you know it’s good

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by VeroJoe on Jan 25, 2012 12:46 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I'm not going to lie to you

You smell like pure gasoline

TBLA 2011 Postseason Prediction Champion

by Ivdown on Jan 25, 2012 1:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Gamblers

have been using Breaking Bad for decades

It's gettin' so a businessman can't expect no return from a fixed fight. Now, if you can't trust a fix, what can you trust?

by mleadman on Jan 25, 2012 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Question on Frank's Parking Lots:

Do you think any of the groups are bidding with the thought that they will be leasing those lots from McCourt?

Seems like part of the communication process right now would include, “OK Frank, what’s your price for those lots?”

Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent.

by latenite on Jan 25, 2012 12:38 PM PST reply actions  

The Houston Speculators

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 12:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I want to believe that billionaires want the land/lots included and don’t want to be renting them back from Frank.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

shit broke bad = throw hand (for Eric)

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Jan 25, 2012 12:39 PM PST reply actions  

Love ya bro….no homo

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Jan 25, 2012 12:43 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Houston Hand Throwers
vs
Houston Shit Breakers

who wins?

by Xeifrank on Jan 25, 2012 12:42 PM PST up reply actions  

What is the record for errors by an infield? And what are the odds that the 2012 Tigers beat the record?

by fbihop on Jan 25, 2012 12:48 PM PST reply actions  

I wish Baseball-Reference had a play index for fielding stats.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 25, 2012 12:49 PM PST up reply actions  

The 2010 Nationals made 88 errors in the infield. Just to pick a recent high-error fielding team.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 25, 2012 12:52 PM PST up reply actions  

that team gave us a couple games.

by G.Scott on Jan 25, 2012 12:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I doubt they make many errors but an infield of
Fielder / Rabun / Peralta / Miggy might have the smallest range of any team I can remember. This is based on visual and does not include any range metrics in the computation of them comment that was just completed before I started this sentence.

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 12:56 PM PST up reply actions  

I know somehow

this would be related to FIP or something like that.

by bhsportsguy on Jan 25, 2012 12:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Based on visual = you seeing how fat Miggy and Fielder are, right?

by fbihop on Jan 25, 2012 12:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Wait until you see who takes the field at the softball tournament.

by ishXdavid on Jan 25, 2012 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

What position did Jon have you listed at?

by Xeifrank on Jan 25, 2012 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Sounds like our OF is stacked then. :)
You got arm?

by Xeifrank on Jan 25, 2012 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

I used to. I have the ratchet thing going on in my shoulder now. I moved over to 2B in hardball because my throws from SS wouldn’t reach in the later innings. I’m still a rangy outfielder, so if he’s going to keep me in the OF, I’ll see if I could play one of the middle OF positions.

by ishXdavid on Jan 25, 2012 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

You are going down. And you are going down hard.

by delias man on Jan 25, 2012 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

You’re a lefty with pop?

by ishXdavid on Jan 25, 2012 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

i am a righty with slap

in general, i just meant your team

by delias man on Jan 25, 2012 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Jeez

Facebook material for their team page

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

HAHA

“Right with slap” … that’s awesome.

Other than Xeifrank, I don’t know anyone else on the DT team. I’m not even sure I can gauge what DT’s demographic is, so I will not be so bold as to rebuke your statement.

by ishXdavid on Jan 25, 2012 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Did you have any tokens left over from the team pizza party?

by Xeifrank on Jan 25, 2012 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

David is a solid ballplayer. What he is best at, however, is getting very mad when he pops up. :)

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 25, 2012 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

That happens in like half the at-bats in slow pitch, no? People trying to jack the ball… oops pop up.

by Xeifrank on Jan 25, 2012 2:08 PM PST up reply actions  

People trying to jack the ball… oops pop up.

/snicker

Only a sith deals in absolutes.

by nolander on Jan 25, 2012 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

and when he strikes out, from what i remember.

by G.Scott on Jan 25, 2012 2:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Eric, how long does it take you to get from home to games, and vice versa? Seems like a long time, love the commitment though.

by uschris0304 on Jan 25, 2012 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

He spends the weekends at various TBLA member houses. That is part of the package when you became a member.

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 1:05 PM PST up reply actions  

hell yeah!! I’ll have Eric over on a friday, show him how the valley do it baby…. I know you dont smoke weed, I know this, but im gonna get you high today. Its Friday, you got a Free Lance job, and you aint got shit to do!

by uschris0304 on Jan 25, 2012 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m starting to picture you as the crazy guy in hangover

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

I could really see that

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by Ivdown on Jan 25, 2012 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

nah, not Jeff Spicoli because I dont get high THAT often. I never do it before work, and he would.

by uschris0304 on Jan 25, 2012 1:18 PM PST up reply actions  

but you did order pizza while in class

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 1:18 PM PST up reply actions  

How did you get fired on your day off?

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Jan 25, 2012 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks man

It used to take me 90 minutes door to door to an from games, without traffic, but I would bunch up the weekends to do 2-3 games at a time, either staying at my cousin’s apartment or with friends.

I will be moving to Pasadena for the season though.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 25, 2012 1:36 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

The hunt for silverwidow turned really serious apparently.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

That's my freelance gig

Mike and Delia’s Man hired me to do the leg work.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 25, 2012 1:40 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Does your cousin read this?

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

He can’t read

by Eric Stephen on Jan 25, 2012 1:52 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I will have to hire you now

to work for my company JB Surveillance just so it is legit. We have been in business since 1995.

by delias man on Jan 25, 2012 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

The Houston Shamuses

It's gettin' so a businessman can't expect no return from a fixed fight. Now, if you can't trust a fix, what can you trust?

by mleadman on Jan 25, 2012 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

You’re going to keep doing this, aren’t you?

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Jan 25, 2012 3:25 PM PST up reply actions  

The Houston Questioners

It's gettin' so a businessman can't expect no return from a fixed fight. Now, if you can't trust a fix, what can you trust?

by mleadman on Jan 25, 2012 3:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Manager: Frank Gorshin

House Band: ? and the Mysterians

You may say, “But baseball teams don’t have a house band.”

I answer, “They do now.”

Still chasing the dream of mediocrity

by Humma Kavula on Jan 25, 2012 3:29 PM PST up reply actions  

They need Hu.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 25, 2012 3:31 PM PST up reply actions  

1B: Who?
2B: What?


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 3:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Out of position, but

1B – Chin-Lung Hu
2B – Eddie Watt
SS – Juan Castro (because I don’t give a darn)
3B – Dick (I) Dono-van

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 25, 2012 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

The Houston Pounds of Flesh

Still chasing the dream of mediocrity

by Humma Kavula on Jan 25, 2012 3:26 PM PST up reply actions  

All the FBI knows of JB Surveillance is an empty office suite in Chino with one single working phone line, and no copper wires in the entire building.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 25, 2012 1:56 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

lol

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Jan 25, 2012 1:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Is the side project to find Tommy Blackjack

I believe some torture with Dr Pepper is on the docket.

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by Ivdown on Jan 25, 2012 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Pasadena? Nice. You can bunk up with Bob T and his newish bride. Bob likes cats though.

by Xeifrank on Jan 25, 2012 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

groan

and rec’d.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 2:08 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought they took up connubial residence elsewhere.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

But Eric can babysit for robotmadeofnails now.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 2:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Curious

Is $8 a stiff price for a pastrami by itself?

by silverwidow on Jan 25, 2012 1:03 PM PST reply actions  

Not if it is a good one. Heck, Subway charged me almost that much and their sandwich was barely edible due to all the fat in the meat. /NeverAgain

by Xeifrank on Jan 25, 2012 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Langers – $12.95
Canters – $11.75
The Hat – $7.79
Johnnies Pastrami – $10.50
Marios (Glendale) – $6.95

by bhsportsguy on Jan 25, 2012 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

The Hat – $7.79

worth it

Only a sith deals in absolutes.

by nolander on Jan 25, 2012 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

The hat is good, only one I know of is in Simi Valley. Next time I go I must try that huge ass plate of chili cheese fries someone posted here the other day.

by uschris0304 on Jan 25, 2012 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

gravy fries are good too

I magically ended up living just down the street from the only one within an hours drive of me

Only a sith deals in absolutes.

by nolander on Jan 25, 2012 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Wet Fries are the greatest!

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Jan 25, 2012 3:28 PM PST up reply actions  

No

It's gettin' so a businessman can't expect no return from a fixed fight. Now, if you can't trust a fix, what can you trust?

by mleadman on Jan 25, 2012 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Impressive

My Pastrami Pizza at Uncle Ernie’s was 8.16 with tax

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Lucky Boy

also sells a pretty good pastrami sandwich for $7.05 (BTW, never knew that so many places now have websites and menus posted).

by bhsportsguy on Jan 25, 2012 1:20 PM PST up reply actions  

It is well documented that taller people are happier and make more money then shorter people but we do have some advantages

Another advantage of smaller people is that they are less likely to die in auto crashes. One study found that people weighing less than 132 pounds had the lowest risk of dying or suffering serious injuries compared to bigger people.

Probably because they make us sit in kid seats now.

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 1:08 PM PST reply actions  

We may be poor and depressed but at least we get more time on earth to be poor and depressed.

by fbihop on Jan 25, 2012 1:10 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

WIN WIN

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 1:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Ah, that’s what that movie was about.

by fbihop on Jan 25, 2012 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

The only loser in that movie was the tall guy:)

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah, Thats because you guys sit in a car seat, duh!!

by uschris0304 on Jan 25, 2012 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

oops, you said that already, duh me.

by uschris0304 on Jan 25, 2012 1:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, duh you

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 1:14 PM PST up reply actions  

All you have to do is make a pact with the devil. It worked for Tom Cruise…he’s not exactly tall.

"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."

by Pure Azure on Jan 25, 2012 1:14 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

I never knew people in shows and movies were short as fuck for the longest time… Id say thats the biggest advantage… no wonder I cant get no role.

by uschris0304 on Jan 25, 2012 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm 5' 9"

and I towered over Paul Newman when I stood next to him

It's gettin' so a businessman can't expect no return from a fixed fight. Now, if you can't trust a fix, what can you trust?

by mleadman on Jan 25, 2012 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Marky Mark is 5'7'' as well

He’s doin alright

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by Ivdown on Jan 25, 2012 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Did you know that Mark Walberg was an original member of the New Kids on the Block but then quit the group before they hit it big because of their bubble gum pop image?

Now you know…and knowing is half the battle

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Jan 25, 2012 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

ofcourse I know… wasnt his bro in that group too?? Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, just hangin’ tough

by uschris0304 on Jan 25, 2012 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

You’ve got the right stuff Chris

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Jan 25, 2012 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

It makes sense since his brother Donny was in the band

I knew Mark was an underwear model thanks to I Love The 90s, lol

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by Ivdown on Jan 25, 2012 2:07 PM PST up reply actions  

tall people can see the train coming

by G.Scott on Jan 25, 2012 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

So is Miggy going to 3B

I saw some stuff about it, but I wasn’t sure what the verdict was.

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by Ivdown on Jan 25, 2012 1:28 PM PST reply actions  

Likely will get a look

in spring training. But even he does play 3B, I can’t believe it will be “that” much. Inge probably still starts half the games there, no?

by Xeifrank on Jan 25, 2012 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

he can play 1st when fielder dh's

and dh when they went to get inge in there I guess

Only a sith deals in absolutes.

by nolander on Jan 25, 2012 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Right

Three main scenarios
1. 1B-Fielder, 3B-Cabrera, DH-Someone
2. 1B-Fielder, 3B-Inge, DH-Cabrera
3. 1B-Cabrera, 3B-Inge, DH-Fielder

by Xeifrank on Jan 25, 2012 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I guess after watching Boom Boom play 3rd the idea of Miggy playing 3rd does not hurt as much

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm not sure Inge gets half the games though

maybe a 1/4, possibly more. Maybe Leyland can get them to be happy about DHing a lot though.

Only a sith deals in absolutes.

by nolander on Jan 25, 2012 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

It is all he has

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah he can't hit anything anymore

was he ever a good CF? What an athlete he must have been(and I guess still is) before those back injuries.

Only a sith deals in absolutes.

by nolander on Jan 25, 2012 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Inge

will definitely play 3B when Fister pitches and anybody else with heavy groundball tendancies.

by Xeifrank on Jan 25, 2012 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

If he gets -- ahem -- cut

Will he be the Angry Inge?

Thank you, I’ll take my answer off the air.

Still chasing the dream of mediocrity

by Humma Kavula on Jan 25, 2012 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

POW!

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Jan 25, 2012 3:30 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ll send the answer by my owl.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 25, 2012 3:32 PM PST up reply actions  

The Houston Hooters

It's gettin' so a businessman can't expect no return from a fixed fight. Now, if you can't trust a fix, what can you trust?

by mleadman on Jan 25, 2012 3:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Saw the show off-off-Broadway before it was a movie. Had no idea what to expect. Thought it was great. Still listen to the cast recording sometimes.

Still chasing the dream of mediocrity

by Humma Kavula on Jan 25, 2012 3:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Find out Google’s prediction on your age and gender as well as what interests you have! Based on search activity, I believe.

It gets me well, says I’m a 25-34 year old male. Though it says one of my interests is cats which is, well, not even close to true.

by fbihop on Jan 25, 2012 1:31 PM PST reply actions  

Link doesn’t work for me. Looks like a link to an ad that fails to load.

by Xeifrank on Jan 25, 2012 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

No interest or demographic categories are associated with your ads preferences so far.

I’m guessing my firewall probably makes every search from my plant site look like one user.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

and they all like porn and hooker sites

It's gettin' so a businessman can't expect no return from a fixed fight. Now, if you can't trust a fix, what can you trust?

by mleadman on Jan 25, 2012 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Just the (plethora of) vice presidents.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 2:11 PM PST up reply actions  

oh yeah once I leave incognito mode

I get different stuff. Apparently I’m into accounting and auditing. Must be tax season.

Only a sith deals in absolutes.

by nolander on Jan 25, 2012 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

According to them I am also a 25 – 34 year old male

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Google has me pegged
Arts & Entertainment
Arts & Entertainment – Movies
Games – Board Games
News – Politics
News – Sports News
Reference – General Reference – Calculators & Reference Tools
Shopping – Apparel – Clothing Accessories – Watches
Sports – Team Sports – Baseball
World Localities – North America – USA – California – Southern California – Los Angeles
World Localities – North America – USA – Pacific Northwest – Washington State – Seattle-Tacoma

Seattle – Tacoma came up because I read Dan Savage’s blog at The Stranger a lot.

Still chasing the dream of mediocrity

by Humma Kavula on Jan 25, 2012 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Mine's pretty close

Arts & Entertainment
Arts & Entertainment – TV & Video – TV Shows & Programs
Computers & Electronics – Consumer Electronics – Game Systems & Consoles – Sony PlayStation
Food & Drink – Cooking & Recipes
Food & Drink – Cooking & Recipes – World Cuisines – Asian Cuisine
Games – Computer & Video Games
News – Politics
Sports – Team Sports – Baseball
Travel – Cruises & Charters
World Localities – North America – USA – California – Southern California – Los Angeles

They think I like Cruises because I was searching for the tipped over boat

It's gettin' so a businessman can't expect no return from a fixed fight. Now, if you can't trust a fix, what can you trust?

by mleadman on Jan 25, 2012 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I guess I should post mine.
Arts & Entertainment
Arts & Entertainment – Comics & Animation – Comics
Arts & Entertainment – Music & Audio – Radio
News – Politics
News – Politics – Campaigns & Elections
Online Communities
Online Communities – Forum & Chat Providers
Pets & Animals – Pets – Cats
Sports – Team Sports – American Football
World Localities – North America – USA – Southwest (USA) – New Mexico

The comics one is because I read a lot of webcomics. I have no explanation for the cat one, other than I linked to this story once.

by fbihop on Jan 25, 2012 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Eric's

Pets & Animals – Pets – Cats – Beheading
Pets & Animals – Pets – Cats – Death
Pets & Animals – Pets – Cats – Murder

Still chasing the dream of mediocrity

by Humma Kavula on Jan 25, 2012 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Computers & Electronics – Programming – Java
Finance – Accounting & Auditing
Internet & Telecom – Web Apps & Online Tools
Sports – Team Sports – Baseball
World Localities – North America – USA – California – Southern California – Los Angeles

Only a sith deals in absolutes.

by nolander on Jan 25, 2012 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

It didn’t list

Home Decor – Basements
?


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 2:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Says 18-24 Male then these incredibly correct categories
Your categories
Below you can review the interests and inferred demographics that Google has associated with your cookie. You can remove or edit these at any time.
Arts & Entertainment
Arts & Entertainment – Humor
Arts & Entertainment – Movies – Science Fiction & Fantasy Films
Arts & Entertainment – Online Media – Online Image Galleries
Computers & Electronics – Software – Operating Systems – Windows OS
Games – Computer & Video Games
News – Sports News
Sports – Combat Sports – Wrestling
Sports – Team Sports – Baseball
World Localities – North America – USA – California – Southern California – Los Angeles

TBLA 2011 Postseason Prediction Champion

by Ivdown on Jan 25, 2012 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Better than:
Porn — Cosplay — Furry

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 25, 2012 2:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Oye

You screw one sheep…

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by Ivdown on Jan 25, 2012 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I was not impressed with the two contestants last night on Baseball IQ. I think I could have done better, and I’m not exactly a baseball trivia whiz. These guys were statistical analysts for the Mets and Philles!

I mean, they couldn’t even name the top SF Giants in terms of games played other than the obvious ones (McCovey, Mays, Bonds) since the Giants moved west?

How many here can name 7 of the top 20, say, Baltimore Orioles in games played since 1960?

"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."

by Pure Azure on Jan 25, 2012 1:43 PM PST reply actions  

that one guy

Only a sith deals in absolutes.

by nolander on Jan 25, 2012 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

good, keep going

"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."

by Pure Azure on Jan 25, 2012 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Brooks
Blair
Buford
Ripkin
Powell

For my quick five

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Aparichio
Belanger

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Murray

It's gettin' so a businessman can't expect no return from a fixed fight. Now, if you can't trust a fix, what can you trust?

by mleadman on Jan 25, 2012 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

sounds good

I was talking to the TV last night. Speier! Aurilia! Will F’ing Clark!

"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."

by Pure Azure on Jan 25, 2012 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I was just going to say “They were Orioles” when I realized you were back to the Giants

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Probably easier for Dodger fans to do the Giants than anyone other then Giant fans

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Understandably

That was why I threw out the Orioles here for Dodger fans. I’m thinking if you follow baseball like us, much less WORK in baseball as an ANALYST, it wouldn’t be too hard. Maybe they just froze under the hot lights.

"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."

by Pure Azure on Jan 25, 2012 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

One ex Dodger on the Oriole list I would not have expected

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Rick Dempsey?

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Jan 25, 2012 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Dempsey is on it but Mike Devereaux was the surprise to me

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m disappointed I did not think of Rafy, Singleton, and Anderson. Those should have been gimmies.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 2:05 PM PST up reply actions  

x

Player G From To OPS Pos
Cal Ripken 3001 1981 2001 .788 *65/D
Brooks Robinson 2592 1960 1977 .732 *5/46
Mark Belanger 1962 1965 1981 .580 *6/45
Eddie Murray 1884 1977 1996 .868 *3D/75
Boog Powell 1763 1961 1974 .826 *37/D9
Brady Anderson 1759 1988 2001 .794 *879/D
Paul Blair 1700 1964 1976 .694 *8/5D7
Ken Singleton 1446 1975 1984 .833 *9D/7
Al Bumbry 1428 1972 1984 .725 *87D/9
Melvin Mora 1256 2000 2009 .793 *5687/49D3
Rick Dempsey 1245 1976 1992 .674 *2/973D
Brian Roberts 1233 2001 2011 .769 *4/6D
Rich Dauer 1140 1976 1985 .653 *45/D3
B.J. Surhoff 1001 1996 2005 .792 *75/D93
Rafael Palmeiro 1000 1994 2005 .886 *3/D
Davey Johnson 995 1965 1972 .709 *4/65
Nick Markakis 946 2006 2011 .818 *9/783D
Chris Hoiles 894 1989 1998 .833 *2/D35
Mike Devereaux 878 1989 1996 .711 *8/97D
Doug DeCinces 858 1973 1981 .751 *5/463D7
Gary Roenicke 850 1978 1985 .803 *798/D35

Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Play Index Tool Used
Generated 1/25/2012.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Devereaux didn’t come to my mind Phil, but I swear I knew he was a Dodger because of a card of his I had way back in the day. Does anyone remember the baseball board game called “Classic” it came with a ton of baseball cards. That’s how I I new Devereaux played for our Dodgers.

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Jan 25, 2012 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I had those cards, and never considered playing the game that they were for.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 25, 2012 2:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Dodger fans couldn’t even name all of the players who had played 10 friggin’ years for the team since they moved west.

Still chasing the dream of mediocrity

by Humma Kavula on Jan 25, 2012 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought you all did pretty good

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Uh-oh

trivia chat in …. three…… two…… one……..

by Xeifrank on Jan 25, 2012 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

maybe Uh-Oh?

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

srsly

Only a sith deals in absolutes.

by nolander on Jan 25, 2012 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

it was just

a fucking joke. Too fucking sensitive. LOL

by Xeifrank on Jan 25, 2012 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

You have a history of complaining not of being funny

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Take it to the dog sledding thread!

by Xeifrank on Jan 25, 2012 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

shit broke bad :)

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Jan 25, 2012 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Bobby Grich

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Sorry

for the cussing and if that came off harsh guys. Was channelling my inner Luther Campbell.

by Xeifrank on Jan 25, 2012 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

The first rule of TBLA is there is no fucking rule one.

Still chasing the dream of mediocrity

by Humma Kavula on Jan 25, 2012 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

heavy petting is ok though

right?

Only a sith deals in absolutes.

by nolander on Jan 25, 2012 2:07 PM PST up reply actions  

that’s a BAD TOUCH Nolander!

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Jan 25, 2012 2:07 PM PST up reply actions  

The first rule of TBLA is

Fuck You

It's gettin' so a businessman can't expect no return from a fixed fight. Now, if you can't trust a fix, what can you trust?

by mleadman on Jan 25, 2012 2:07 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I guess the change in my pocket wasn’t enough

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Jan 25, 2012 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

hahaha love it… you’re one cool dude Marty, all 5 feet 7 inches on you.

by uschris0304 on Jan 25, 2012 2:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Almost had to send you back Dodger Thoughts school for some reprogramming

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

better than watches

"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."

by Pure Azure on Jan 25, 2012 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

@tvsportsratings:

NFL Net’s replay of NE/BAL had larger audience than live NHL on NBCS: 202k vs. 190k

by fbihop on Jan 25, 2012 1:43 PM PST reply actions  

Does anyone know

if you can buy episodes of the NFLs SoundFX show on DVD or blu ray? Man I woudl pay a lot of money for some of the footage they have

Only a sith deals in absolutes.

by nolander on Jan 25, 2012 1:54 PM PST reply actions  

Nope

it appears they just archive stuff on their site that you can watch for free

by bhsportsguy on Jan 25, 2012 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I hate their video player and commercials though

alas! They should take all their good clips of ref player interactions and put them in one place. Love that stuff.

Only a sith deals in absolutes.

by nolander on Jan 25, 2012 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Chuck Pagano is the new coach of the Colts

goodbye cover 2, I’m going to miss their run defense being a joke.

Only a sith deals in absolutes.

by nolander on Jan 25, 2012 1:55 PM PST reply actions  

Kinda wish Raiders got this guy.

by uschris0304 on Jan 25, 2012 1:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Have a great night everyone!

Houston Clap (FTMFW)

"They will never ketchup to all of the energy that I've mustard"

by VeroJoe on Jan 25, 2012 2:02 PM PST reply actions  

Houston 5-clap

clap clap, clap clap clap

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The Houston Chancres

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by mleadman on Jan 25, 2012 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Anyone - first Dodger question

Los Angeles Dodgers @Dodgers

Cy Young winner Clayton Kershaw went 5-0 against SF in 2011, who was the last Dodger pitcher to go 5-0 in a season vs. Giants? #ThinkBluman

by bhsportsguy on Jan 25, 2012 2:03 PM PST reply actions  

Jerry Ruess

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm gonna say

Kaz Ishii. Why not?

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by Humma Kavula on Jan 25, 2012 2:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Why not?

Because it’s Kaz fucking Ishii, that’s why not

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by mleadman on Jan 25, 2012 2:08 PM PST up reply actions  

ha ha

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 2:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Are we going back before LA?

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 2:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes, it wasnt an LA Dodger.

by uschris0304 on Jan 25, 2012 2:08 PM PST up reply actions  

oh, it was an LA Dodger?

by uschris0304 on Jan 25, 2012 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Sal Maglie
Don Newcombe

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 2:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Johnny Podres

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 2:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Dazzy Vance

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 2:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Vic Lombardi

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 2:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Van Lingle Mungo

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by Humma Kavula on Jan 25, 2012 2:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I saw your comment

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Crap. I was really hoping for Van Lingle Mungo.

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by Humma Kavula on Jan 25, 2012 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

For this one, yes

I would imagine for the contest on TV, probably but they have 50+ years to cover so maybe not.

by bhsportsguy on Jan 25, 2012 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

The answer

is Brooklyn’s Vic Lombardi in 1946, he went 5-0 against the New York Giants.

by bhsportsguy on Jan 25, 2012 2:11 PM PST up reply actions  

lol how come all trivia is always way before my time?? I cant wait til im 60-70 years old so I can play.

by uschris0304 on Jan 25, 2012 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Because if he asked questions about last year everyone would get it.

by fbihop on Jan 25, 2012 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Who won the Cy Young last year?

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Ooh, ooh, I know this one. Van Lingle Mungo?

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by Humma Kavula on Jan 25, 2012 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Which Dodger hunts heaters?

by fbihop on Jan 25, 2012 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Shit, which one doesn’t?

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by Humma Kavula on Jan 25, 2012 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Alternate answer:

Amen, Sailor!

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by Humma Kavula on Jan 25, 2012 2:23 PM PST up reply actions  

haha I never said it had to be last year… could be 80s stuff though, even 90s

by uschris0304 on Jan 25, 2012 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

What Dodger threw a no – hitter at Coors

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Nomo BAM! See, that was FUN! haha Yeah I should know more trivia I guess.

by uschris0304 on Jan 25, 2012 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m your age and I love this stuff. Eric too. I mean Eric is your age and loves this stuff. Not that I love Eric. Even though I do, not that there’s anything wrong with that. Erm, check please?

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by Nolij on Jan 25, 2012 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I dont know this actually. 18?

by uschris0304 on Jan 25, 2012 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

19.

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by Humma Kavula on Jan 25, 2012 2:20 PM PST up reply actions  

4 HR, 1 2B, 1 1B

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by Nolij on Jan 25, 2012 2:30 PM PST up reply actions  

What Dodger pitcher had one of the best names in baseball history?

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by Humma Kavula on Jan 25, 2012 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Van Lingle Mungo?

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by Ivdown on Jan 25, 2012 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Wheezer Dell:)

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 2:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I always liked Luke Prokopec, even if it isn’t VLM-level

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by Nolij on Jan 25, 2012 2:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Kaiser Wilhelm

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Doug McWeeny

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

When Steve Finley hit that GS vs the Giants to clinch the NL west in 04, what 3 Dodgers were on base??

by uschris0304 on Jan 25, 2012 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

haha, probably right…… I liked Lindsey Soto better though.

by uschris0304 on Jan 25, 2012 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Sloppy Thurston

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

The final Dodgers.com question

Which two players (one inducted as a Giant, the other as a Dodger) played their last games for the other club.

by bhsportsguy on Jan 25, 2012 2:13 PM PST reply actions  

Snider
Marichal

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Technically

you could accept Hoyt Wilhelm too because his HOF plaque shows him wearing a NY Giants cap, he retired in 1972 as a Dodger.

by bhsportsguy on Jan 25, 2012 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Juan Marichal, Duke Snider.

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by Nolij on Jan 25, 2012 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Van Lingle Mungo

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by Humma Kavula on Jan 25, 2012 2:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Who was born and died in Pageland, South Carolina

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Quote of the day
The first rule of TBLA is

Fuck You

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by Ivdown on Jan 25, 2012 2:15 PM PST reply actions  

Okay

name the last 8 Dodger Rookie of the Years and list the year they won the award, will only accept answers with all 8 listed go.

by bhsportsguy on Jan 25, 2012 2:21 PM PST reply actions  

96 Hollandsworth
95 Nomo
94 Mondesi
93 Piazza
92 Karros
82 Sax
81 Valenzuela
80 Howe

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by Nolij on Jan 25, 2012 2:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Lightening

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 2:23 PM PST up reply actions  

well done

actually forgot there were 5 in the 90s. So I was thinking of 1979 with Sutcliffe.

by bhsportsguy on Jan 25, 2012 2:24 PM PST up reply actions  

I almost put him as a bonus :)

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by Nolij on Jan 25, 2012 2:25 PM PST up reply actions  

That sounds like work.

by kinbote on Jan 25, 2012 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

1965 Frenchy
1969 Sizemore

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 2:23 PM PST reply actions  

How in the hell did Lefebvre win over Joe Morgan that year?


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by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 2:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Not enough cowbell.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 25, 2012 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Also, RBIs, Pennants.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 25, 2012 2:29 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought about RBIs, but Joe scored 100 runs!


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by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Joe was short

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 2:29 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Yes.


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by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Plashcke

had a column today begging for a Kershaw extension. Finally something that makes sense.

by silverwidow on Jan 25, 2012 2:27 PM PST reply actions  

Never forget
Don’t write Kemp’s name in ink in lineup
September 26, 2007|Bill Plaschke

The kid gloves are off.

After watching their youth movement crash and burn against a wall of reality last week, the Dodgers are quietly mulling a slight change of direction.

The kids are no longer untouchable.

At least one of those kids could be the centerpiece in a winter trade that could bring the team a badly needed veteran star.

That kid could be Matt Kemp…….

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by Humma Kavula on Jan 25, 2012 2:29 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s not fair we have all said stupid things. The problem with Plashke is two fold

He says ALOT of stupid things
His quest to smear Depodesta

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Also, he says a lot of stupid things in one-sentence paragraphs.

That’s not Plaschke’s worst offense, actually. That was the Sasha Cohen column, which was simply horrible. But I hated this one.

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by Humma Kavula on Jan 25, 2012 2:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Might be the worst ending in journalist history:

If the Dodgers can get zinged, so can Sasha Cohen, and she deserved it Thursday night.

She didn’t want to be there.

She didn’t want to be there?

by kinbote on Jan 25, 2012 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

um, screw that

that gets you shot

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 2:40 PM PST up reply actions  

In my island nation, he would have been tarred and feathered for that Cohen column

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Picturing you as Fat Brando right now.

by kinbote on Jan 25, 2012 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

and he gets to do it from very visible platforms.


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by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 2:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Cespedes officially a FA

and Jim Bowden says the likely players are…

1. Cubs 2. Marlins 3. Orioles 4. White Sox
75% chance he won’t have a chance to make the playoffs in 2012.

by Xeifrank on Jan 25, 2012 2:31 PM PST reply actions  

Saw Xeifrank on Yahoo

On the Yahoo Baidu Message Board. Was that you? Too bad about what they were saying about you… Just kidding..

by Dodgers1981 on Jan 25, 2012 2:37 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s scary that there are two of you

by Dodgers1981 on Jan 25, 2012 3:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Cespedes is a Top 30 prospect and Zach Lee is our #1 prospect. How much do you think Zach Lee would get as a free agent if he were one today? Same question for Bryce Harper who is likely #1 overall?

by Xeifrank on Jan 25, 2012 3:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Harper 6/90
Lee 5/10

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 3:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Being 19 years old I think Lee would get more than that. If anything he’d get a simlar contract to Longoria, perhaps without the options.

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by Ivdown on Jan 25, 2012 3:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Lee gets 2 years at 5mil. why risk 5 years of contract on someone who can’t get out Lo-A hitters? If you’re talking free agent contracts, you are expecting them to step in now, and that simply isn’t the case yet with Lee. Harper could easily get a 10 year deal.

by G.Scott on Jan 25, 2012 3:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I think Harper would only want a 5 year deal. It sets him up nicely for the bigger pay day in his prime while giving him a serious check for the next six years.

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 3:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Harper might be one of the very select handful of guys (Lincecum, Howard being the others) who have arbitration help them out.

by G.Scott on Jan 25, 2012 3:34 PM PST up reply actions  

So… Cespedes splits the difference? 6/50 ish?

by Xeifrank on Jan 25, 2012 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Have to remember Charley Finley here

A lot of these FA values are inflated because these are very unique, major league ready or nearly major league ready players and the supply of them is very limited.

If Lee were a free agent, he would get a lot if he was the only pitcher like him available. But if there were say 10 or 15 19-20 year old pitchers with similar pedigrees the prices would go down.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 25, 2012 3:20 PM PST up reply actions  

The A’s top six prospects’ names are all English words:

Parker, Peacock, Gray, Cole, Choice, Green.

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by Humma Kavula on Jan 25, 2012 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Colorless green ideas sleep furiously.

by kinbote on Jan 25, 2012 2:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, well, just wait until the baby comes. They’ll be up all night.

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by Humma Kavula on Jan 25, 2012 2:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Hootie and the Blowfish

I had no idea they ripped off Bob Dylan during “Only Want to Be With You”

by silverwidow on Jan 25, 2012 2:43 PM PST reply actions  

If you cite Dylan, is it really a rip off?

Case in point: Sam Fuller and Jean-Luc Godard are at the Cannes Film Festival. Fuller is drinking and drinking and drinking and he’s finally had enough and he goes up to Godard and says, “You French frog fuck, all you’ve done is rip me off your entire career.”

Godard says, “Een Eenglish, ‘reep off.’ En Francais, homage.”

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by Humma Kavula on Jan 25, 2012 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah I’m tangled up in blue
I only wanna be with you

Blatant thievery!

by silverwidow on Jan 25, 2012 2:51 PM PST up reply actions  

If we consider Bootie and the Hoefish music,

it’s called a musical allusion. Been done for centuries.

by kinbote on Jan 25, 2012 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

I have no problem calling Hootie and the Blowfish music

It’s totally non-substantive, and it pretty much sounds like four dudes just having some fun, but it also has no pretensions about being anything more than that.

Besides, Stephen Stills sang backups on “Hold My Hand”. Who am I to argue with Stephen Stills.


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by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 3:03 PM PST up reply actions  

For what it’s worth, that was the first album I ever bought with my own money.

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by Nolij on Jan 25, 2012 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I do still enjoy Cracked Rear View.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 25, 2012 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ve never heard it, apart from the radio singles. I did inordinately like that one Counting Crows album with Mr. Jones on it tho . . .

by kinbote on Jan 25, 2012 3:06 PM PST up reply actions  

My roommate freshman year played that album and the Gin Blossoms album all the time, since they were the only two he owned. I hate Counting Crows now.

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by Nolij on Jan 25, 2012 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Same here. Guilty as charged.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 25, 2012 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

who didn’t?

Hell, I used to listen to Offspring so loud on the way to go surfing that I still hate myself for it

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Me.

Also, you’ve gotta keep younger Joe and current Joe separated.

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by Nolij on Jan 25, 2012 3:11 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s a bad habit.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 25, 2012 3:13 PM PST up reply actions  

I am large, I contain multitudes

there was also a period where I was convinced that surfing was the sporting manifestation of Jazz and would only listen to Parker, and Davis, and Baker, and Coltrane, and Monk on the way to the beach

and always Hendrix, and Lou Reed, and phase of way too much Clapton

and a fair amount of KUSC after getting out the water

but yeah, the offspring, a mistake. Just got me so damn pumped, would be bouncing in the car, loved the violence surging in my arms, felt like I was going to explode.

I surfed best on Jazz I think, but I got more waves on bad loud music

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 3:18 PM PST up reply actions  

whatevs

The Offspring have some great songs. They have some terrible songs, but they also have some great ones.

Only a sith deals in absolutes.

by nolander on Jan 25, 2012 3:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I liked No Doubt too

Forgot about that

and still listen to Beck on airplanes. For me, Beck was made for traveling

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 3:23 PM PST up reply actions  

No Doubt, Offspring. Are you sure you’re not from the OC?

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 25, 2012 3:26 PM PST up reply actions  

I hate

No Doubt. I love Beck. Wilco is the best band in the world IMO

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by mleadman on Jan 25, 2012 3:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Beck sucks

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by nolander on Jan 25, 2012 3:29 PM PST up reply actions  

With only that much to go on (Marty: I love Beck, nolander: Beck sucks), I would choose to listen to Beck.


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by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 3:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Very much so, but I don’t know how you conclude that from my saying that with the lack of any evidence I would always choose Marty’s musical preference over yours.


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by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 3:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Last Jeff Beck

concert I went to, I wondered out loud
how many people were here to see Beck.

by jim hitchcock (railway) on Jan 25, 2012 4:11 PM PST up reply actions  

ha ha

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 4:12 PM PST up reply actions  

More than thought they were seeing Jeff Buckley?

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by Nolij on Jan 25, 2012 4:12 PM PST up reply actions  

There were a lot of people looking sheepish, but nobody spoke up.

by jim hitchcock (railway) on Jan 25, 2012 4:16 PM PST up reply actions  

awesoke

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 3:44 PM PST up reply actions  

I still want to know if Beck ripped off Them.

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by Humma Kavula on Jan 25, 2012 3:36 PM PST up reply actions  

What I got — Nothin’.

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by Nolij on Jan 25, 2012 3:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes, but I think they acknowledge it

it was done as an homage

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by nolander on Jan 25, 2012 3:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Is

Beck a he or a they? I thought it was one dude.


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by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 3:52 PM PST up reply actions  

he is the frontman I guess

I don’t know if any of the other members are static or just dudes he hires for albums and touring ala NIN

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by nolander on Jan 25, 2012 3:55 PM PST up reply actions  

He plays all the instruments on the album, I believe. I think Reznor does the same thing.

Could be wrong, though.

by fbihop on Jan 25, 2012 3:56 PM PST up reply actions  

from the wiki
the earliest Nine Inch Nails recordings, Reznor was unable to find a band that could articulate the material as he desired. Instead, inspired by Prince, Reznor played all the instruments except drums himself.14 This role remains Reznor’s on most of the band’s studio recordings, though he has occasionally involved other musicians and assistants

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by nolander on Jan 25, 2012 3:58 PM PST up reply actions  

inspired by Prince

Like he was the first. Stevie Wonder put out a few phenomenal records in the 1970s where he used very few other musicians. McCartney’s first solo record (a mixed bag) was entirely himself.


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by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 4:12 PM PST up reply actions  

that doesn't mean he was inspired by them

if he heard tha tprince did it and said “wow that sounds great!” It means he was inspired by Prince and in no way is a slight to anyone else.

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by nolander on Jan 25, 2012 4:15 PM PST up reply actions  

For what it’s worth

Nicely done.

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by Humma Kavula on Jan 25, 2012 3:05 PM PST up reply actions  

“Buffalo Springfield” or “Cracked Rear View”


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by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 3:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Sit down Clancy

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 3:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Nice Springfield reference

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by mleadman on Jan 25, 2012 3:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Dylan

and Hootie and the Blowfish reached settlement regarding the unauthorized use of lyrics from Tangled Up in Blue in 1995.

by bhsportsguy on Jan 25, 2012 2:56 PM PST up reply actions  

oh

There must’ve been more than just that one line.

by kinbote on Jan 25, 2012 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Link.

Hootie & the Blowfish reach an out-of-court settlement with Bob Dylan. The band had used a portion of Dylan’s lyrics in its hit “Only Wanna Be With You.”

by fbihop on Jan 25, 2012 2:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Glad this is settled. Now is Mark Ellis really batting #2 for us or will D2X go outside the box and bat Loney there?

by kinbote on Jan 25, 2012 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

In 2014, the Dodgers reached an out-of-court settlement with Joe Torre over a dispute regarding batting crappy players second.

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by Humma Kavula on Jan 25, 2012 3:01 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Laughing so hard that I can’t breathe.

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Jan 25, 2012 3:43 PM PST up reply actions  

More famously

George Harrison had to pay over $500K for his recording of “My Sweet Lord” sounding too similar to the Chiffons’ “He’s So Fine”

Other artists who have paid settlements for sound alike songs include:

The Doors, Led Zeppelin, Steely Dan and Janet Jackson.

by bhsportsguy on Jan 25, 2012 3:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I knew about all of those except Steely Dan.


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by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Led Zeppelin was very good at taking old blues music and not crediting the blues musicians.

by fbihop on Jan 25, 2012 3:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Like the Yardbirds:)

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 3:05 PM PST up reply actions  

De La Soul and the Turtles had a beef.

by kinbote on Jan 25, 2012 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Q Tip straight up iced Mark Volman to end that beef.

by fbihop on Jan 25, 2012 3:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Did Vanilla Ice ever have to pay David Bowie?

by G.Scott on Jan 25, 2012 3:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I fucking love David Bowie

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 3:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I could listen to Rebel, Rebel all day long.

Another karaoke number?


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by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 3:38 PM PST up reply actions  

You should sing Young Americans

by G.Scott on Jan 25, 2012 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Only bowie I have on my ipod is Changes, Under Pressure (under Queen) and Young Americans. That’s not to say it’s the only Bowie I like.

by G.Scott on Jan 25, 2012 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I like the line “just you and your idol singing falsetto”.


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by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 3:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Reg did this at karaoke.

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by Humma Kavula on Jan 25, 2012 3:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Really, he just moved up a notch

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 3:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Musta been the night I missed out on.


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by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 3:54 PM PST up reply actions  

“Panic in Detroit” is my fave.

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Jan 25, 2012 3:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Tebowing kills me

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 4:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes, and, I believe, give him credit on the song.

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by Humma Kavula on Jan 25, 2012 3:20 PM PST up reply actions  

and Suge Knight

After Suge held Vanilla over the balcony.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 25, 2012 3:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I heard he flipped a coin with his right hand while holding him with his left hand to decide his fate

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 3:46 PM PST up reply actions  

i heard it was never really a coin flip, and that there was only one real choice.

by G.Scott on Jan 25, 2012 3:47 PM PST up reply actions  

and told him to “call it, friendo”?


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by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 3:58 PM PST up reply actions  

“What’s the most you ever bet on a coin toss?”

by kinbote on Jan 25, 2012 5:41 PM PST up reply actions  

You’re probably right. I do know he said the other guy had everything to gain.

by kinbote on Jan 25, 2012 5:49 PM PST up reply actions  

The unwrapping plastic is the kicker in that scene. Also, “You don’t know what you’re talking about, do you?”

by kinbote on Jan 25, 2012 5:50 PM PST up reply actions  

It was Queen featuring David Bowie.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 25, 2012 3:27 PM PST up reply actions  

All five lads share the songwriting credit.


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by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 3:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I like “My Sweet Lord”

I don’t have it like that, but I am glad he does

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 4:16 PM PST up reply actions  

wah wah

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 4:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t need no wah wah

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by Humma Kavula on Jan 25, 2012 4:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Didn’t know you guys spoke Peanuts adult

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 4:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I think that is one of the most well produced songs of all time. Just love the way it is put together. Phil Spector may be a nut job that murdered a woman, but he did know how to produce a pop record.


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by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 4:22 PM PST up reply actions  

which should get him a pass

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 4:24 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

because is unique but purty women in Hollywood are a dime a dozen

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 4:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Just kidding
/uscchris

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 4:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Put on a little Dylan…
Ain’t Bobby so cool…

One could argue it is homage and quoting more than rip off.


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by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 3:01 PM PST up reply actions  

The whole damn verse uses Dylan lyrics (including some from Idiot Wind – “Said I shot a man named Grey, took his wife to Italy…”) and even named Dylan in the song.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 25, 2012 3:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I just heard that song (Idiot Wind) was about the media. I always thought it was about an ex-girlfriend.

by kinbote on Jan 25, 2012 3:08 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought it was about a french fart my way

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s about Bill Plaschke on Around the Horn.


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by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 3:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I forgot all about them… are they still around, making new songs?

by uschris0304 on Jan 25, 2012 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Only Hootie is left and he is forced to make commercials for Burger King as penance for his previous career lowlights.

by fbihop on Jan 25, 2012 2:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I wonder if Hootie has ever seen the movie 24 Hour Party People, and if he has, when Steve Coogan says in that movie, “My epitaph will be, ‘He never sold out.’ I protected myself from ever having to sell out by having nothing to sell,” I wonder if Hootie thought, “Yeah, I’m going to do the exact opposite of that guy.”

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by Humma Kavula on Jan 25, 2012 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Lifetime supply of Tendercrisp Bacon Cheddar Ranch, though.

by fbihop on Jan 25, 2012 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Hootie is now a huge Country Star

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

And the country music industry is beside itself with joy. They’ve been looking for an African-American star forever.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 25, 2012 3:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Was Charlie Pride that long ago to be called forever?

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

old dude comment

and yes

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 3:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Probably been a good 30-35 years since his heyday.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 25, 2012 3:08 PM PST up reply actions  

close to forever for me

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

I was thinking up to the mid-70s.
I also remember him being a baseball guy, which is cool.


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by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 3:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Ex-Professional Baseball Player

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 3:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Wiki
Though he also loved music, one of Pride’s life-long dreams was to become a professional baseball player. In 1952, he pitched for the Memphis Red Sox of the Negro American League. He pitched well, and, in 1953, he signed a contract with the Boise Yankees, the Class C farm team of the New York Yankees. During that season, an injury caused him to lose the “mustard” on his fastball, and he was sent to the Yankees’ Class D team in Fond du Lac, Wisconsin. Later that season, while in the Negro leagues with the Louisville Clippers, he and another player (Jesse Mitchell), were traded to the Birmingham Black Barons for a team bus. “Jesse and I may have the distinction of being the only players in history to be traded for a used motor vehicle,” Pride mused in his 1994 autobiography.4[dead link]

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 3:15 PM PST up reply actions  

God bless Baseball-Reference, for at least having 7 innings and parts of other two years chronicled.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 25, 2012 3:17 PM PST up reply actions  

With a nickname of Turkey!


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by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 3:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Houston Turkeys!

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by iiidown on Jan 25, 2012 3:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Charley is months shy of being the same age as my mother.


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by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 3:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I didn’t realize he was still alive.

My mom loved him, and his Christmas album was a staple at the Stephen Compound growing up.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 25, 2012 3:12 PM PST up reply actions  

B-R has him as a year older than my mom. Discrepancy!


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by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 3:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Because once you go black….


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by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 3:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Come on, he doesn’t weight THAT much.

by fbihop on Jan 25, 2012 3:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Pretty sure Darius Rucker has said, “I’m not Hootie”, it’s just a band name. BUT WTF DO THEY EXPECT? YOU NAME A BAND “X AND THE Y”, THE FRONT MAN IS X!


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by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Blondie nods her head ;)

by kinbote on Jan 25, 2012 3:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Alice Cooper and Marilyn Manson would say you don’t even need an “and the.”

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 25, 2012 3:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Did you ever hear Alice Cooper interviewed on Fresh Air? It was amazing. The guy gave a completely laid-back, unpretentious interview.

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by Humma Kavula on Jan 25, 2012 3:12 PM PST up reply actions  

My dad loves his syndicated radio show.

by fbihop on Jan 25, 2012 3:16 PM PST up reply actions  

No more Mr. Not-Nice Guy, I guess

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 25, 2012 3:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m gonna sing that at karaoke one night.


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by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 3:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I dig that the guy is a total golf nerd

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 3:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Has like a 4 handicap or something, right?

by fbihop on Jan 25, 2012 3:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t know his exact handicap, but it is reportedly very low.


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by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 3:38 PM PST up reply actions  

he now co-owns a restaurant in Arizona (?) with Randy Johnson. They sell a 2 foot hot dog called “The Big Unit”. When you order the Big Unit, sirens and lights go off and the waitress who brings it to you carries it to your table shouting BIG UNIT, BIG UNIT.

by G.Scott on Jan 25, 2012 3:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Adam Richman told me so.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 25, 2012 3:25 PM PST up reply actions  

FTFY
and the waitress who brings it to you in her mouth carries it to your table shouting MRPH, HPRM, PHRM.

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 3:25 PM PST up reply actions  

This sounds like a Simpsons episode

It's gettin' so a businessman can't expect no return from a fixed fight. Now, if you can't trust a fix, what can you trust?

by mleadman on Jan 25, 2012 3:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Million dollar birthday fries!!

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 25, 2012 3:28 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Called Cooperstown, right? Heard that Cooper eats there often and is nice to people who approach him.

by fbihop on Jan 25, 2012 3:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Phoenix

their web site. The real question is, it is worth a visit during Spring Training?

Probably yes for those lucky fuckers who will be there for six weeks.


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by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I found a place to stay like 12 miles from CBR too. Very central.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 25, 2012 3:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Spring Training party at Eric’s!


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by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 3:59 PM PST up reply actions  

You need an electric bike:)

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 4:01 PM PST up reply actions  

It was on an episode of No Reservations (streaming on NetFlix. Episode is called US Southwest). Place looks bitchin. It’s a sports grill to the sports grilliest.

by G.Scott on Jan 25, 2012 3:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Sounds like a plan.


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by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 3:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I saw Hootie at Stagecoach last year. He was good.

by ishXdavid on Jan 25, 2012 3:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Like his voice, thought he could enunciate better (at least in the Hootie heyday). But not over-enunciate like that guy in Creed.


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by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 3:42 PM PST up reply actions  

I always thought the start of the song sounds like the intro to “No Sugar Tonight” by Guess Who.


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by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

I always thought that the start of Beck’s “Devil’s Haircut” sounds like Them’s “I Can Only Give You Everything” with a key change.

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by Humma Kavula on Jan 25, 2012 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Luckily Bob Seger could not sue himself for using the same chords over and over

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

John Fogerty was actually sued, accused of ripping himself off.

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by Humma Kavula on Jan 25, 2012 3:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I think he won that case? (He was sued by the owner of the publishing rights to the CCR material, which was Saul Zaentz or his successors.)

Fogarty did some playing on the stand to demonstrate something or other. Now that would be cool jury duty.


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by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 3:14 PM PST up reply actions  

That said, “The Old Man Down the Road” sure sounds a bit like “Run Through the Jungle”, which in turn does sound like a reworked “Green River”.


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by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 3:16 PM PST up reply actions  

He was not able to argue that it is impossible to rip oneself off.

He took the stand with his guitar to show that “Old Man Down the Road” and “Run Through the Jungle” were constructed in a completely different manner.

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by Humma Kavula on Jan 25, 2012 3:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Zaentz also sued Fogarty for defamation or slander or libel or something for the song “Zanz Kant Danz”, claiming it was clearly about him. Later editions of the album change the title (and maybe altered the vocal) to “Vanz Kant Danz”. I believe my brother still has the vinyl in original form. (He also bought the Lynryd Skynyrd “Street Survivors” album with the band in flames on the cover before the plane crash.)


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by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 3:27 PM PST up reply actions  

According to this Fogerty won and eventually was even awarded attorney’s fees after the Supreme Court got involved on that issue.


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by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 3:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Also on Google Scholar.


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by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 3:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I think that is called “diddling yourself”

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m so bloody rich!
I own apartment buildings and shopping centers!
And I only know three chords!


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by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 3:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Earache my eye! How would you like a butt-ache?

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by Humma Kavula on Jan 25, 2012 3:17 PM PST up reply actions  

So Sick, Chris Rock and Dave Chappelle might be doing a comedy tour together. Hope it happens.

by uschris0304 on Jan 25, 2012 3:27 PM PST reply actions  

I didn’t know that “So Sick” was a thing.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 25, 2012 3:30 PM PST up reply actions  

So Sick, I have dysentery.

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by Humma Kavula on Jan 25, 2012 3:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Looks like the Lakers have turned the corner.

by Xeifrank on Jan 25, 2012 3:44 PM PST up reply actions  

I think DTD payed something like 12 Million

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 3:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Jerry Buss paid $67.5M for the Lakers, AND the Kings, AND the Forum (which I assumed included the parking lots), and a ranch.


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by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 4:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Best Bargain I ever had

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 4:05 PM PST up reply actions  

George Steinbrenner. $30million.

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by G.Scott on Jan 25, 2012 4:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I never saw George with a bevy of young skirts though.


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by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 4:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Strangest thing – sorry for the long story. We had seats at the forum and we all knew where Jerry and the skirts were. He would send his people around and they invite the purty young things upto his area for fun dining and what not. We had a couple who knew this and we used to laugh about it. One game they brought their daughter who was home from college to the game. She got invited up and went. They were all excited that Jerry Buss had asked for their daughter! It was so strange, they knew the old fuck was going to fuck her that night and yet the idea that Jerry Buss was going to do the fucking was okay.

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 4:23 PM PST up reply actions  

maybe they just thought she would hang and then slip out

before he slipped her the check

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by nolander on Jan 25, 2012 4:26 PM PST up reply actions  

I imagine Jerry invited up more than left with him. He was old then and older now, he can’t fuck ’em all.


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by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 4:30 PM PST up reply actions  

The hell he can’t.

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by Humma Kavula on Jan 25, 2012 4:31 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I am sure Jerry shared with his friends, doesn’t seem like the kind of guy to bogart all the ass

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 4:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought he paid something like $10 million

by Eric Stephen on Jan 25, 2012 4:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Touche
On January 3, 1973, Steinbrenner and minority partner Burke led a group of investors, which included Lester Crown, John DeLorean and Nelson Bunker Hunt, in purchasing the Yankees from CBS.11 For years, the selling price was reported to be $10 million. However, Steinbrenner later revealed that the deal included two parking garages that CBS had bought from the city, and soon after the deal closed, CBS bought back the garages for $1.2 million. The net cost to the group for the Yankees was therefore $8.8 million.12

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Steinbrenner

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by G.Scott on Jan 25, 2012 7:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Is there always weird stuff about the parking??


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by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 8:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Worst band that you will cop to listening to

We all know Eric’s, that chick band that he loves. What was yours?

and it has to be past the age of 13. Like I listened to shit in the late 70’s that I will not be held accountable for…

go!

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 3:36 PM PST reply actions  

the late 90s boy bands are in my ipod.

by G.Scott on Jan 25, 2012 3:37 PM PST up reply actions  

good charlotte

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by nolander on Jan 25, 2012 3:38 PM PST up reply actions  

limp bizkit

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by nolander on Jan 25, 2012 3:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Their version of Faith is awesome.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 25, 2012 3:48 PM PST up reply actions  

I still like some of their older older older stuff

They just went tooo… hip hop pop

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by nolander on Jan 25, 2012 3:49 PM PST up reply actions  

The best cover of Faith is by a British band called The Boy Least Likely To:

Link

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by Humma Kavula on Jan 25, 2012 3:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Their version of Faith is terrible

by court168627 on Jan 25, 2012 3:51 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

Every version of Faith is terrible.

by fbihop on Jan 25, 2012 3:54 PM PST up reply actions  

i often talk about the difference between good/bad music and music that i like/dislike. i think Elton John is bad music but i like Elton John

by court168627 on Jan 25, 2012 3:39 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

No way something like “Tiny Dancer” is bad music.

by silverwidow on Jan 25, 2012 3:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Way Benny & the Jets is though

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by mleadman on Jan 25, 2012 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I was going to sing that at karaoke, just for Phil.

I don’t get the hatred though, that is such a harmless nothing song.


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by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 3:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Don't hate it

just not any good

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by mleadman on Jan 25, 2012 3:44 PM PST up reply actions  

i guess i just think of his music as supremely uncool. yet, i love tiny dancer.

by court168627 on Jan 25, 2012 3:42 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

back in the day in 8th grade his music from his first album was as cool as it gets. By high school, not so much.

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by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 3:53 PM PST up reply actions  

This song is amazing

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by Ivdown on Jan 25, 2012 4:12 PM PST up reply actions  

It depends on which Elton John we’re talking about. The stuff that made Elton famous? Nothing wrong with that. Late-period Elton? Oy.

Stevie Wonder, same thing.

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by Humma Kavula on Jan 25, 2012 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

good call on this, for both artist

whatever happened to the Lionel Richie that sang Brick House? How do we go from that to “Hello?”

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 3:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Brick House is still funkadelicious.


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by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 3:45 PM PST up reply actions  

i think that goes without saying. i generally assume that most pop musicians later output is terrible, especially wjen their career lasts longer than a decade

by court168627 on Jan 25, 2012 3:46 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

Except The Kinks. 60s British Invasion group? 80s stadium rockers? I’ll take ’em all.

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by Humma Kavula on Jan 25, 2012 3:48 PM PST up reply actions  

what if you transition from teen group pop to solo teen pop to adult hip-pop like JT

by G.Scott on Jan 25, 2012 3:48 PM PST up reply actions  

i said generally. of course there are exceptions. however, i dont see the kinks as one

by court168627 on Jan 25, 2012 3:52 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

i hate when people take one example who is above and beyond the norm and use it as evidence against generalities.

However, in this case, I was just curious of your opinion.

by G.Scott on Jan 25, 2012 3:53 PM PST up reply actions  

im completely ambivalent towards Justin Timberlake’s entire careering

by court168627 on Jan 25, 2012 3:57 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

damn autocorrect

by court168627 on Jan 25, 2012 3:58 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

didn't JT write most of NSYNC's songs?

which would make sense why he is the only one to actually have a career afterwords

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by nolander on Jan 25, 2012 3:58 PM PST up reply actions  

i strongly doubt that any member of that had significant contributions to the composition of their songs

by court168627 on Jan 25, 2012 4:00 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

that was my thought as well.

“Here kids, sing ‘Yeah’ into this microphone 40 times in 3 minutes. It’s hit!”

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by G.Scott on Jan 25, 2012 4:02 PM PST up reply actions  

styx

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by nolander on Jan 25, 2012 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I love them too

but something about them makes me want to say they are bad music

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by nolander on Jan 25, 2012 3:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Because they are

The one thing I give Styx is music like theirs pushed me into punk rock

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by mleadman on Jan 25, 2012 3:44 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I’m surprised there hasn’t been a stage musical based on the music of Styx yet.


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by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 3:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Every Styx concert ever is a stage musical.

by G.Scott on Jan 25, 2012 3:49 PM PST up reply actions  

hahaha

i love this

by court168627 on Jan 25, 2012 3:47 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

The Cars
Boy George
Romeo Void

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by mleadman on Jan 25, 2012 3:40 PM PST up reply actions  

god do I love the Cars – still do

I knew better than Boy George

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 3:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I also still love The Cars. Those songs are little 3 1/2 minute power pop masterpieces.


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by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 3:48 PM PST up reply actions  

The Cars are bad, I dont’ want to be good. Or something like that.

by fbihop on Jan 25, 2012 3:43 PM PST up reply actions  

His solo stuff? You really are scraping bottom there.


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by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 3:48 PM PST up reply actions  

I was thinking of Hard to Say I’m Sorry and You’re the Inspiration, but those are both Chicago songs. So I retract my Cetera choice.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 25, 2012 3:50 PM PST up reply actions  

He did one song with Amy Grant, and Glory of Love. That’s all I can remember solo.

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by Nolij on Jan 25, 2012 3:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m back on board for Glory of Love alone.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 25, 2012 3:52 PM PST up reply actions  

He did that hilarious duet with

Cher, where he was singing higher than her.


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by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 4:06 PM PST up reply actions  

They were cool

when they were The Bangs

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by mleadman on Jan 25, 2012 3:42 PM PST up reply actions  

hmmm

Bands is hard, I listen to 80s music :)

Artists? Probably Kelly Clarkson, and its only 2 or 3 songs I actually have on my itunes.

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by Ivdown on Jan 25, 2012 3:43 PM PST up reply actions  

same thing – band, musician

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 3:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I will still listen to my way overly pretentious Emerson, Lake and Palmer records.

I can hear Marty retching from here.


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by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 3:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Brain Salad Surgery

ugh

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 3:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Album has one of the worst lyrics ever
Every day a little sadder
A little madder
Someone get me a ladder

Well, it rhymed.


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by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 3:47 PM PST up reply actions  

The Houston aww fuck it

by G.Scott on Jan 25, 2012 3:49 PM PST up reply actions  

The Houston We Got A Problem

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 4:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Any song

On Pictures at an Exhibition if great.

by jim hitchcock (railway) on Jan 25, 2012 4:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I prefer Hut on Fowl Legs to Great Gate of Kiev. Or are we not talking Mussorgsky?

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 25, 2012 4:15 PM PST up reply actions  

ELP

put out a live record of them playing their version of Mussorgsky. It is pretty damn pretentious. I played it a lot in the mid-70s. I once used elementary electronic chips on a breadboard to have it play the melody line of Promenade. Lame.


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by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 4:17 PM PST up reply actions  

that's ok

I really liked The Moody Blues and even went to see them at the Hollywood Bowl when they had all passed their expiration date

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 4:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Weird lineup choices

I saw Stevie Ray Vaughan for the first time at the Forum. Backup band for The Moody Blues.

by jim hitchcock (railway) on Jan 25, 2012 4:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Living Colour
Guns n’ Roses
Rolling Stones

I got so wasted during that show that I passed out twice

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 4:22 PM PST up reply actions  

A friend of mine reported back from this Coliseum concert:

Rolling Stones
J. Geils Band
[some other act]
Prince

He thought Prince was great and was stunned he got booed off the stage. He was also surprised how much the J. Geils Band sucked. But their front man was boning Kathleen Turner in her prime years, so there’s that.


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by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 4:25 PM PST up reply actions  

How can you be surprised how much J. Geils Band sucks. My blood runs cold just thinking about them

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 4:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey, they may make your list for me

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 4:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Geils stinks. Yeah, yeah.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 25, 2012 4:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I was there!

It's gettin' so a businessman can't expect no return from a fixed fight. Now, if you can't trust a fix, what can you trust?

by mleadman on Jan 25, 2012 4:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Bet you didn’t boo Prince.


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by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 4:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Nope

That’s who I wanted to see most. That was like 1980, and the Stones were already past it for 5 years

It's gettin' so a businessman can't expect no return from a fixed fight. Now, if you can't trust a fix, what can you trust?

by mleadman on Jan 25, 2012 4:34 PM PST up reply actions  

I was a huge Prince

fan up until Purple Rain

It's gettin' so a businessman can't expect no return from a fixed fight. Now, if you can't trust a fix, what can you trust?

by mleadman on Jan 25, 2012 4:36 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah, that’s about par

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 4:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Among the post-Purple Rain stuff

I like the Sign o’ the Times album.


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by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 4:52 PM PST up reply actions  

end of the Stones

I was too young to know what I was singing, but I loved “Miss You” so much when it came out that I can today sing that whole song word for word

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 4:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Sticky Fingers

was the first album I bought

It's gettin' so a businessman can't expect no return from a fixed fight. Now, if you can't trust a fix, what can you trust?

by mleadman on Jan 25, 2012 4:37 PM PST up reply actions  

People think I’m Crazz zy

What’s a matter witchu boy?

good stuff

I think the Stones, while not my favorite band of all time, and the greatest band of all time

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 4:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I was tempted to boo Coldplay at some KCRW concert, but was scared I would be trampled by all the grey haired ponytails

so I sat on my hands miserable

the band for that night was this Mexican rocker group called Café Tacuba. Check them out

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 4:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Alan Parsons Project are a bit of a guilty pleasure for me.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 25, 2012 4:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I wouldn’t want to be like you.


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by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 4:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I knew that. I can read your mind.

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Jan 25, 2012 4:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes

It's gettin' so a businessman can't expect no return from a fixed fight. Now, if you can't trust a fix, what can you trust?

by mleadman on Jan 25, 2012 4:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Erasure

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 25, 2012 3:45 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s showing them a little respect.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 25, 2012 3:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I really liked Pearl Jam when I was 18-22

Now I am a different person

"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."

by Pure Azure on Jan 25, 2012 3:45 PM PST up reply actions  

How I feel about Rage Against the Machine.

But I’ll still crank it whenever I heard it on the radio.

by fbihop on Jan 25, 2012 3:47 PM PST up reply actions  

…in high school.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 25, 2012 3:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Alive is my second favorite song to sing on Rock Band, behind Everlong by the Foo Fighters.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 25, 2012 3:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Welcome Home

Only a sith deals in absolutes.

by nolander on Jan 25, 2012 3:48 PM PST up reply actions  

i know exactly how you feel. i loved pearl jam wjen i was 13 and i don’t really dislike them now, but im pretty far from a fan

by court168627 on Jan 25, 2012 3:50 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

yeah – I can still listen to Nirvana, but the sound of Pearl Jam makes me want change the station

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 4:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Music I heard for the first time that I said wow
Hendrix
Bowie
Sparks
Bruce Springsteen
Dire Straits
X
Nirvana

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 4:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Sparks didn’t do it for me – but I think I saw them about 1000 times at Magic Mountain

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 4:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ll always remember the riff from “this town isn’t big enough for the both of us”. The songs that became hits were passable but the second album from the song above was something I’d never heard before. I don’t think any song from that album was played on the radio. By the time they became big I’d moved on, but still love that one album. Or maybe not, have not heard it in 25 years.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 4:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Sparks played my high school (grades 7-12) c. 1973 or 1974? – somehow I missed that.


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by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 4:14 PM PST up reply actions  

the rest of your list lines up with me

I also love The Doors – which I know Marty, but it hit the spoke for me

These days have a bunch of electronica on my Ipod, things like Shirley Bassey re-mixes and Thievery Corporation and other stuff I bought because I heard it on Jason Bentley and was so surprised how much I loved it. That music for me is traveling and driving

God, did I love Dire Straits for a while

and Nirvana was so fresh when I was done with everything

Hell, you know who I like. I like Jack White and every thing he does. His album with Loretta Lynn might be one of my top 5 of all time.

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 4:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Dire Straits

The Mark Knopfler can really handle that fucking axe.


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by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 4:19 PM PST up reply actions  

And wrote a perfect soundtrack to The Princess bride.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 25, 2012 4:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Trying to decide if Spawn is old enough for this movie. Scary stuff that I can remember are the screaming eels, the ROUSes, and Wesley dying (well, almost dying). I dunno if she can handle that stuff.

I won’t even tell her the name of the movie, though. All I would have to say would be the words “Princess” and “Bride” and she would be all in.

Still chasing the dream of mediocrity

by Humma Kavula on Jan 25, 2012 4:24 PM PST up reply actions  

I got about 2/3 of the way through reading the book with my 4-year-old (cleaning it up some along the way), little bits every night, then he asked me to stop. I think the idea of Count Rugen “being mean” to Westley was too much for him.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 25, 2012 4:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Not everyone can be Peter Falk

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 4:27 PM PST up reply actions  

You know you want

to hear her say, “My name is Inigo Montoya, you killed my father. Prepare to die.”

But probably not “INCONCEIVABLE”


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 4:26 PM PST up reply actions  

That was my kid’s favorite part.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 25, 2012 4:28 PM PST up reply actions  

A few months ago at LA County Art Museum

they did a reading of The Princess Bride script:

The players were:

Paul Rudd as Westley (originally played by Cary Ewes)
Mindy Kaling as Buttercup (Robin Wright)
Cary Elwes as Prince Humperdinck (Chris Sarandon)
Nick Kroll as Count Rugen (Christopher Guest)
Patton Oswalt as Vizzini (Wallace Shawn)
Bill Fagerbakke as Fezzik (Andre the Giant)
Goran Višnjic as Inigo Montoya (Mandy Patinkin)
Kevin Pollack as Miracle Max (Billy Crystal)
Collette Wolfe as Valerie (Carol Kane)
Fred Savage as The Grandson (Fred Savage)
Rob Reiner as The Grandfather (Peter Falk)

One of the great things and unfortunate things is that this was not recorded so it was a singular performance at LACMA.

by bhsportsguy on Jan 25, 2012 4:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Zat bwessed eventuh, zat dweam wiffin a dweam

and wuv, twoo wuv, wiw fowwow woo fowevvah

Still chasing the dream of mediocrity

by Humma Kavula on Jan 25, 2012 4:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I think

Mrs. HJ would enjoy watching “The Princess Bride” more than watching Lob City tonight.

by bhsportsguy on Jan 25, 2012 4:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Anybody want a peanut?

It's gettin' so a businessman can't expect no return from a fixed fight. Now, if you can't trust a fix, what can you trust?

by mleadman on Jan 25, 2012 4:44 PM PST up reply actions  

solid
/oldmansayings

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 4:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I didn’t find out about that til the day before. I was very sad to have missed it.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 25, 2012 4:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes

so I was I. They said that the crowd roared when Savage read the first line of the movie and that Rudd glanced at Ewes when he said “As you wish”

by bhsportsguy on Jan 25, 2012 4:48 PM PST up reply actions  

shit man, I might have to listen to it tonight

Watch the Lakers on mute, glass of wine and the Mrs feet in my hands, Loretta singing about the Little Red Shoes

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 4:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I remember where I was when I first heard Sultans of Swing, Freebird, and that Kennedy had been shot.

by jim hitchcock (railway) on Jan 25, 2012 4:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I remember that for American Pie.


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by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 4:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Me too with this one.

When a buddy got married in England, one evening close friends gathered in his parents’ back yard for dinner. At one point one of his parents’ friends took out a guitar and began playing. Well, at one point, he started playing American Pie, and all of the parents’ friends groaned — not because they didn’t like the song, far from it, but because they could never finish it.

Well, we did it, and everybody else trailed off, but I got ’em through it and remembered all the words and got a standing O. It was a proud moment, for some reason.

Still chasing the dream of mediocrity

by Humma Kavula on Jan 25, 2012 4:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Shorter then Coconut:)

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 4:24 PM PST up reply actions  

You’re such a silly woman.

Still chasing the dream of mediocrity

by Humma Kavula on Jan 25, 2012 4:24 PM PST up reply actions  

for sure

that song, along with Carly Simon’s “You’re so Vain” are the songs in my head from my earliest memories of our family camping trips

Lake Cachuma FTW

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 4:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Did you get ticketed for peeing in Cachuma?

by jim hitchcock (railway) on Jan 25, 2012 4:29 PM PST up reply actions  

dude, you spying on me?

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 4:29 PM PST up reply actions  

The Campgrounds

Up Los Osos Road are some of my favorites. Adding in a concert at the County Bowl makes for a great weekend.

by jim hitchcock (railway) on Jan 25, 2012 4:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I love it up there

trying to talk Mrs HJ into a 4 day Cachuma weekend, buying wine, grilling out, drinking said wine, camping

even promised a run into Solvang

She is on the fence

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 4:42 PM PST up reply actions  

She’ll love it, of course, and demand to go there many more times.

by jim hitchcock (railway) on Jan 25, 2012 4:46 PM PST up reply actions  

that’s the plan

I also love Refugio down on the coast. Was a great place when I was a teenager. El Capitan pretty nice too

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 4:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I bet it’s hard to get into Emma K Woods now. But there’s always Tin Can Beach, across the highway the the sand dune.

by jim hitchcock (railway) on Jan 25, 2012 4:53 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah – hard to get in everywhere these days.

I had a party at Emma Woods once that was the closest thing to a television commercial I have ever been in. We cut small holes in watermelons days before and soaked them with vodka, we had a bonfire, we danced all night long, girls in bikinis, skinny dipping, everything.

We didn’t even know we were going to stay there, we just knew we wanted to party at the beach, some how we talked out way into that park, night to remember.

I am saving that one in the memory banks, when I am old and done and in a bed where I just can’t move, I hope to go back to that party, walk around for a while, visit with my friends

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 4:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Emma not the slut she once was?


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by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 5:00 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I’ve camped El Capitan a few times, but never Refugio. Cachuma as a kid with the family once. Whole region is fantastic.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 5:00 PM PST up reply actions  

El Cap has better surf when the west swell comes in, but I think (or at least thought) that refugio was a prettier campground

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 5:01 PM PST up reply actions  

For years now, almost all my camping has been at lakes where we can take the SeaDoo. I think the last place I camped that wasn’t like that was part of a summer vacation maybe 8 years ago that included camping in the coastal redwoods up near Crescent City, which was fabulous.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 5:03 PM PST up reply actions  

SO WHEN IS THE TBLA WEEKEND CAMP OUT?


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 5:04 PM PST up reply actions  

that would be fun

Vin Scully on the radio while camping is about as good as being an american gets

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 5:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Totally agree. Vinny painting the picture in one’s mind while gathered around the campfire pit.

by jim hitchcock (railway) on Jan 25, 2012 5:08 PM PST up reply actions  

About a hundred of us used to spend Easter Week at Refugio in the 70’s. Great place to camp. Did that seven years in a row-took over the whole campground. Set up our portable volleyball net on the grass by the restrooms. Did nothing but play volleyball, surf and drink beer.

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Jan 25, 2012 5:12 PM PST up reply actions  

sounds awesome

you ride a pin-tail single fin ride out of Free Ride or 5 Summer Stories?

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 5:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Nope. 7’6" Weber Austrailia. We would take a day trip up to Jalama, or bring a boat and motor up to Hollister Ranch. The point at Refugio had to have a large north swell to be rideable.

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Jan 25, 2012 6:00 PM PST up reply actions  

You are the MAN

I have wanted to boat up to Hollister my whole life and it just never came together

Yeah, the swell window at Refugio is really small, so is El Cap, but when they go off they are great

Does Bobby know just how cool you are? Do sons every know? Because that is awesome stuff in a great time that you were into…

Damn – that must have been paradise then….

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 6:05 PM PST up reply actions  

It was paradise.

Does any kid know how cool their parents were back in the day? Although, the other day Bobby said “It’s amazing how often you’re right about things.” I don’t know if he was buttering me up, or he was actually learning something.

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Jan 25, 2012 6:33 PM PST up reply actions  

I cannot tell a lie. I like the shot at the seven-second mark.


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by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 5:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Casitas was worse

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 4:30 PM PST up reply actions  

I like singing Mick Jagger’s part.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 4:35 PM PST up reply actions  

My list would have to include Elvis Costello.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 4:18 PM PST up reply actions  

First 2 albums

are genius

It's gettin' so a businessman can't expect no return from a fixed fight. Now, if you can't trust a fix, what can you trust?

by mleadman on Jan 25, 2012 4:29 PM PST up reply actions  

yes

would probably need to add him to the list

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 4:30 PM PST up reply actions  

What about Frankie Goes to Hollywood?

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 5:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Grass Roots for Office fans

Bad Music – Monkeys?

Maybe Sparks but not sure they are bad music

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 4:00 PM PST up reply actions  

love the monkees, hate sparks. but i think the whole point of that band was “so bad it’s good” . hj had a good line about tjat phrase once, but i don’t remember it

by court168627 on Jan 25, 2012 4:03 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

Joe said:

so bad it’s good, is rarely good so bad it’s good, is usually just bad

Still chasing the dream of mediocrity

by Humma Kavula on Jan 25, 2012 4:05 PM PST up reply actions  

that was it

by court168627 on Jan 25, 2012 4:07 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

The Beatles. Those guys suck!

Still chasing the dream of mediocrity

by Humma Kavula on Jan 25, 2012 4:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Rafael Betancourt signed an extension with the Rockies today. He was already under contract for…

2012: $4m
2013: $4.25m mutual buyout ($250,000 buyout)

Now it’s

2012: $4m
2013: $4.25m
2014: $4.5m mutual option ($250,000 buyout)

Also gets annual bonuses, per AP:

In 2012, $200,000 for 55 games finished

In 2013 and 2014…
$50,000 each for 40 and 45 games finished
$150,000 for 50
$200,000 for 55
$250,000 for 60

by Eric Stephen on Jan 25, 2012 3:39 PM PST reply actions  

Ned gives 2 year deals

and the Rockies give extensions when they are absolutely under no pressure to do so.

by bhsportsguy on Jan 25, 2012 3:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Still think that in the past eight months, the Padre group has made better moves than all the other West teams combined.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jan 25, 2012 4:11 PM PST up reply actions  

no doubt.

Hell, they traded Mat Latos for Mat Latos, Yonder Alonso, Grandal and a bullpen piece.

We're all snobs in the areas which we consider ourselves to be an expert.

by G.Scott on Jan 25, 2012 4:13 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s a hell of a trick.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 25, 2012 4:14 PM PST up reply actions  

#UnderusedAtBatSongs on Twitter.

That is all.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 25, 2012 3:59 PM PST reply actions  

They sat together in the park
As the evening sky grew dark
She looked at him and he felt a spark
Tingle to his bones
‘Twas then he felt alone
And wished that he’d gone straight
And watched out for a simple twist of fate

by silverwidow on Jan 25, 2012 4:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Is that Hootie? :0

by kinbote on Jan 25, 2012 5:46 PM PST up reply actions  

“You’re the Best Around”

Still chasing the dream of mediocrity

by Humma Kavula on Jan 25, 2012 4:07 PM PST up reply actions  

—Andy LaRoche

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 25, 2012 4:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Shhhh! That’s the joke!

Still chasing the dream of mediocrity

by Humma Kavula on Jan 25, 2012 4:08 PM PST up reply actions  

[there’s no crying in baseball clip]
-James McDonald

We're all snobs in the areas which we consider ourselves to be an expert.

by G.Scott on Jan 25, 2012 4:08 PM PST up reply actions  

This is what I used as my walk-up music when I got to pick last year. At least I think it is. I can’t check youtube from here.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 25, 2012 4:08 PM PST up reply actions  

What was it?

We're all snobs in the areas which we consider ourselves to be an expert.

by G.Scott on Jan 25, 2012 4:09 PM PST up reply actions  

K’naan – Wavin’ Flag

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 25, 2012 4:10 PM PST up reply actions  

/shrug

hopefully i’ll hear it again this season

We're all snobs in the areas which we consider ourselves to be an expert.

by G.Scott on Jan 25, 2012 4:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Nervous

It's gettin' so a businessman can't expect no return from a fixed fight. Now, if you can't trust a fix, what can you trust?

by mleadman on Jan 25, 2012 4:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Pat Sajak - Drinking through WOF

In “Wheel of Fortune’s” early format, Sajak found himself with two-and-a-half-hour dinner breaks while they changed up the prizes. So he and his right-hand woman Vanna White would go out to Los Arcos, a nearby Mexican restaurant in Burbank, for some margaritas.

“Vanna and I would go across and have two or three or six and then come and do the last shows and have trouble recognizing the alphabet. They’re really great tapes to get a hold of,” Sajak said.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/25/pat-sajak-wheel-of-fortune-drunk_n_1232065.html

It's gettin' so a businessman can't expect no return from a fixed fight. Now, if you can't trust a fix, what can you trust?

by mleadman on Jan 25, 2012 5:31 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

In that time frame I wouldn’t have minded knocking back a few tequilas with Vanna White, eh?


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 5:55 PM PST up reply actions  

exactly

I have heard stories that she was a bit of a party girl back in the day

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 6:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Enough for early years photos to end up in Playboy.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 6:05 PM PST up reply actions  

didn’t know that

of course you did

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 25, 2012 6:07 PM PST up reply actions  

This was big news at the time!


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 6:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Presented without irony
“I’m kind of happy,” [Ruben Amaro] said. "Really happy. Because if I would have had to put an 8- or 9-year deal on [Ryan] Howard’s deal right now, that would be a little disconcerting. Right now, we have Howard for the next 5 years. I kind of like that idea rather than having to do an 8- or 9- or 10-year deal.

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/phillies/20120125_Rich_Hofmann__Ruben_likes_Howard_pact_even_better_now.html

by kinbote on Jan 25, 2012 5:53 PM PST reply actions  

Howard's 5/$125M (avg 25/year) extenstion starts now

That’s for his age 32-36 years. Prince Fielder just signed through his age 36 season. 9/215 (avg >24/year), or so, right?

Ned signed Matt Kemp for 8/160 (avg 20/year) for ages 27-34.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 25, 2012 6:05 PM PST up reply actions  

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Pos No Player 2012 Salary
C 17 Ellis $490,000
1B 7 Loney $6,375,000
2B 37 Herrera $375,082
3B 6 Hairston $2,250,000
SS 9 Gordon $485,000
LF 23 Abreu $401,311
CF 10 Gwynn $850,000
RF 16 Ethier $10,950,000

OF/1B 33 Van Slyke $388,197
2B/3B 3 Kennedy $800,000
OF/1B 30 Sands $375,175
IF 13 DeJesus $448,992
C 18 Treanor $850,000

SP 22 Kershaw $6,000,000
SP 58 Billingsley $9,000,000
SP 29 Lilly $12,000,000
SP 44
Harang $3,000,000
SP 35 Capuano $3,000,000

CL 74
Jansen $491,000
RHP 52 Lindblom $483,000
RHP 51 Belisario $414,426
RHP 54 Guerra $488,000
RHP 28
Wright $900,000
LHP 57 Elbert $488,500
RHP 60 Coffey $1,000,000

DL 27 Kemp $10,000,000
DL 21 Rivera $4,000,000
DL 12 Sellers $481,000
DL 5 Uribe $8,000,000
DL 55 Guerrier $4,750,000
DL 14 Ellis $2,500,000
60DL 36 Hawksworth $495,000
60DL 41 De La Rosa $485,000

AA 50 Eovaldi $7,885
AAA 56 Antonini $7,869



Manny $8,087,432 deferred


Andruw $3,375,000 deferred


Pierre $3,050,000 deferred
Furcal $3,000,000 deferred
Kuroda $2,000,000 deferred
Garland $1,500,000 option buyout
Blake $1,250,000 option buyout
DFA 66 MacDougal $650,000

Totals
$115,942,869

For more detailed information, click here.

Current 40-man roster count: 42
(incl. De La Rosa & Hawksworth)

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Manager

Eric___ned___reporters_2011_trade_deadline_small Eric Stephen

Editors

100_1427_small Phil Gurnee

Dgy_small David Young

Hanauma_bay_small Chad Moriyama

2501_small Michael White

Raptors_small Brandon Lennox

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