Dodgers 2012 Minor League Countdown: 160 - 151
Here is the next part of my Dodger prospect countdown, and this post completes the first quarter of my list. There should be some familiar names in this group, including the struggling brother of our current right fielder. Overall the talent in this group isn't all that bad, and I was surprised that I was forced to rank some of these guys this low on the list due to the players that are ahead of them.
Also, just to provide a little more detail on my ranking for anyone that has forgotten, I am providing a summary of virtually every player in the Dodgers minor league system who meets the following qualifications: (1) is within the Dodgers organization as of December 14, 2011; (2) is under 28 years old as of Opening Day 2012; and (3) is still considered a prospect by Baseball America standards, which means that pitchers must have less than 50 innings pitched (or 30 appearances) in the majors, and hitters must have less than 130 at bats in the majors. Like Baseball America, I do not take into account service time, and therefore it is possible that I have included prospects who will not technically be rookies in 2012.
160. Ariel Pena, RHP (23.2 IP in DSL in 2011)
Signed by Dodgers 6/26/09
6’4”, 208 lbs, 20 years old
1-1, 5.32 ERA, 1.69 WHIP, 4.72 FIP, 5.32 K/9
Pre 2011 Rank: 140; Pre 2010 Rank: N/A; Pre 2009 Rank: N/A
Ariel Pena’s professional career has consisted of two subpar seasons in the DSL, yet I continue to give him some respect in my ranking due to his ideal pitching frame and youth (he played all of last season as a 19 year old). In addition, the Dominican native did show some improvement year over year as he increased his strikeout rate, reduced his walk rate, and decreased his FIP from 7.14 in 2010 to 4.72 in 2011. That being said, Pena didn’t have a good enough year to warrant a promotion to a US based league, he’ll most likely return to the DSL for a 3rd season in 2012 and will need to show even more improvement if he wants to continue his baseball career beyond that.
159. Mike Drowne, LHP (9.1 IP in LoA, 23.2 IP in Pioneer Rookie Lg in 2011)
Drafted by Dodgers 2010, 28th round
5’10”, 175 lbs, 23.5 years old
1-1, 6.00 ERA, 2.27 WHIP, 4.53 FIP, 10.36 K/9
Pre 2011 Rank: 151; Pre 2010 Rank: N/A; Pre 2009 Rank: N/A
When the Dodgers selected Mike Drowne in the 28th round of the 2010 draft out of Sacred Heart University (Connecticut), he was a leadoff type batter who had hit .313 with 33 stolen bases and set a school record with 65 runs scored in his final year of college. Despite signing quickly with the Dodgers, Drowne played in just 4 games in 2010 because the Dodgers wanted him to focus on switch hitting, so he spent more time on the practice field than in games. Then during last year’s spring training, the Dodgers decided he would be better off as a pitcher. In an interview with Hugh Bernreuter, Drowne admitted “At first, I was disappointed because I spent all winter working on hitting left-handed. But they drafted a lot of outfielders and there are a lot in the system. There aren't as many left-handed pitchers." He later came to the realization that this would be his best move, and also told Hugh “Actually the transition wasn't that tough. I was the ace for my high school team and did a little pitching in college.” After spending some time in extended spring training, where reports were that he was touching 93 mph and had a good slider, the Dodgers were aggressive with Drowne and sent him Great Lakes. Unfortunately he really struggled with the Loons and was demoted back down to the Pioneer League after allowing 13 walks and 14 runs in just 9.1 innings. Down in Ogden Drowne was slightly more successful, although his walk rate was still sky high and he was probably a bit lucky because 11 of the 23 runs he allowed with the Raptors were unearned. His only bright spot was that he had an excellent strikeout rate in Ogden, posting a K/9 of 11.8. Drowne will probably get another shot with the Loons in 2012, but given his small stature and his inability to find the plate I doubt he’ll have much success on the mound for the Dodgers unless he greatly improves his control.
Follow the jump for #'s 158 - 151
158. Charlie Mirabal, SS (2 games AAA, 33 games in LoA, 34 games in Pioneer Rookie Lg in 2011)
Signed by Dodgers 3/1/07
5’11”, 180 lbs, 25 years old, switch hitter
.290 average, .711 OPS, 3 HR’s, 35 RBI’s, 12 SB’s
Pre 2011 Rank: 165; Pre 2010 Rank: 161; Pre 2009 Rank: 79
As I’ve written before, Charlie Mirabal has an interesting story. He was signed by the Dodgers out of an open tryout before the 2007 season, and made his professional debut as a middle infielder in the DSL. After some initial struggles, the Dodgers decided to try him out as a pitcher during 2008, and he put up some great numbers. He posted a 1.99 ERA in 32 innings and had an outstanding strikeout rate. Despite his success on the mound, for whatever reason the Dodgers decided to move him back to shortstop in 2009, and that’s where he’s been ever since. He was promoted to the Arizona Rookie League in 2010, then shocked the world by making his 2011 debut all the way up in AAA. He only played two games for the Isotopes, however, and ended up splitting most of his season between Ogden and Great Lakes. Overall Mirabal had a pretty good season for a middle infielder, although most of his damage was done in the hitter friendly Pioneer League. He hit the first 3 homers of his career, and struck out in just 16.7% of his plate appearances. At 25 years old, however, Mirabal is probably not much more than organizational depth at this point, and he’ll most likely fill the backup infielder role for the Loons or Quakes in 2012.
157. Raul Burgos, RHP (67 IP in LoA in 2011)
Acquired in 2009 minor league portion of Rule 5 draft
6’1”, 210 lbs, 24.5 years old
2-4, 4.16 ERA, 1.46 WHIP, 4.86 FIP, 5.64 K/9
Pre 2011 Rank: 158; Pre 2010 Rank: N/A; Pre 2009 Rank: N/A
Raul Burgos was signed by the Giants out of the Dominican Republic prior to the 2005 season. After spending two seasons as a position player in the DSL, Burgos was moved to the mound because he was unable to get his average above .190 in either season. He spent 2007 pitching in the DSL, and then was moved to the Arizona League where he spent all of 2008 and 2009 and had a combined ERA over 5 over 26 innings. After the 2009 season, Raul was selected by the Dodgers in the minor league portion of the Rule 5 draft and was sent to the Pioneer League for 2010. After a mediocre season with the Raptors, Burgos was promoted to the Loons in 2011 and was big part of their bullpen. While he walked almost as many batters as he struck out and had a lackluster FIP, the “Bodyguard” was able to limit the damage against him as he posted a solid ERA of 4.16. In addition, the Dodgers liked Raul enough to re-sign him for next season (he was a minor league free agent). He’ll probably continue to climb the ladder and spend the 2012 season with the Quakes in Rancho Cucamonga.
156. Chris Henderson, 1B/3B (61 games in LoA in 2011)
Drafted by Dodgers 2009, 21st round
5’11”, 190 lbs, 23.75 years old, bats left handed
.220 average, .573 OPS, 1 HR, 10 RBI’s, 2 SB’s
Pre 2011 Rank: 112; Pre 2010 Rank: 129; Pre 2009 Rank: N/A
Chris Henderson was an amazing college player at George Mason University. In 2009, his final season with the Patriots, Henderson hit.413 with 14 homers, 58 RBI and 70 runs scored. He also had a ridiculous .487 on-base percentage and a .702 slugging percentage. In addition, he did all this as a catcher and was named one of the three finalists for the Johnny Bench Award for the nation’s best catcher. The other two finalists were the 2009 #4 overall pick Tony Sanchez, and the Dodgers own Jeremy Wise. Since signing with the Dodgers, however, Henderson has put his catching equipment in storage as he has split his time between 1st and 3rd base. After an uninspiring debut in the Arizona Rookie League in 2009, Henderson had a big season for the Ogden Raptors in 2010, albeit without much power, as he hit .341 with a .429 OB%. That earned Henderson a promotion to the Midwest League in 2011, but like many of his Loon teammates he struggled mightily at the plate. Henderson never hit better than .250 in any month, and ended the year with an ugly .573 OPS. He was also limited to just 61 games and was even sent back to extended spring training at one point due to his struggles. With a career minor league fielding of .870% at 3rd base, “Hendo” seems like he’ll be limited to 1st base or DH moving forward. That’s not a good sign given his lack of power and his overall offensive struggles last season. I expect Henderson to spend another season with the Loons in 2012, and he’s going to have to really step it up if he wants to have any value to the Dodgers.
155. Edinson Bock, RHP (7.1 IP in DSL in 2011)
Signed by Dodgers before 2011 season
6’2”, 190 lbs, 17.75 years old
1-0, 3.68 ERA, 1.50 WHIP, 5.25 FIP, 11.05 K/9
Pre 2011 Rank: N/A; Pre 2010 Rank: N/A; Pre 2009 Rank: N/A
Edinson Bock, who was signed by the Dodgers out of Venezuela prior to the 2011 season, is the second youngest players in the Dodgers minor league system. He won’t turn 18 until April 15th, yet put up some pretty interesting stats in his limited professional debut. Bock allowed just 2 hits in 7.1 innings which calculates out to a .083 batting average against, and also struck out more than a batter per inning. The bad news is that Edinson also walked more than a batter per inning, which is what caused his WHIP to be 1.50. At 6’2” the right-hander has a good pitching frame and will certainly get more innings when he returns to the DSL in 2012.
154. Ryan Acosta, RHP (3 IP in AAA, 12.2 IP in HiA, 41 IP in LoA in 2011)
Signed by Dodgers in May 2011 as a minor league free agent
6’2”, 170 lbs, 23.25 years old
2-4, 4.76 ERA, 1.54 WHIP, 4.66 FIP, 6.04 K/9
Pre 2011 Rank: N/A; Pre 2010 Rank: N/A; Pre 2009 Rank: N/A
Before I get into his baseball career, it should be noted that Ryan Acosta has an interesting back-story as his father was former minor league baseball player and then became a coach in the Yankees organization before tragically dying in a car accident when Ryan was in high school. It was obviously a tough time for Ryan, but he continued playing baseball for his dad and was eventually selected by the Cubs out of high school in the 12th round of the 2007 draft. He was given a $225K signing bonus upon signing, but despite his hefty bonus the Cubs released Acosta for an undisclosed reason after just one full season, so he was a minor league free agent heading into 2009. The Yankees then scooped him up, but he was released again his 2010 campaign despite a 3.50 for their class A affiliate. From there Acosta joined the Dodgers, and actually played for three different Dodger minor league affiliates in 2011. The majority of his season was spent with the Loons where Ryan posted a solid 2.85 ERA over 41 innings despite a K/9 of just 5.5. Given his history it’s extremely difficult to predict where Ryan will play or how he will perform in 2012, but I think he’s worth keeping around especially since he is still just 23 years old.
153. Faustino Oguisten, SS/2B/3B (25 games in DSL, 13 games in Arz Rookie Lg in 2011)
Signed by Dodgers 1/19/09
6’2”, 165 lbs, 21 years old, bats right handed
.326 average, .792 OPS, 0 HR’s, 9 RBI’s, 10 SB’s
Pre 2011 Rank, 175, Pre 2010 Rank: 163; Pre 2009 Rank: N/A
Faustino Oguisten struggled through his first two seasons in the DSL, so he started 2011 back in the Dominican Republic. He got off to a hot start for the Dominican Dodgers, however, and earned a rare mid-season promotion to the Arizona Rookie League in early July. After arriving in the states Oguisten was used sparingly and only appeared in 13 games, but he managed to hit an even .300 with the Arizona Dodgers and struck out just twice in 20 at bats. Despite the improvement Faustino showed in 2011 and his defensive versatility, he doesn’t really offer a whole lot of upside as he’s collected just 10 total extra base hits in his career (248 official at bats) and has a career fielding % of just .909. Nevertheless, the fact that the Dodgers gave him a chance in the US shows that he has some value, so we’ll just have to wait and see how he does when he gets more consistent playing time in 2012.
152. Devon Ethier, OF (27 games in Arz Rookie Lg in 2011)
Drafted by Dodgers 2010, 32nd round
6’0”, 165 lbs, 21.75 years old, bats right handed
.119 average, .441 OPS, 0 HR’s, 2 RBI’s, 0 SB’s
Pre 2011 Rank: 85; Pre 2010 Rank: N/A; Pre 2009 Rank: N/A
Devon Ethier, Andre’s much younger brother, was drafted by the Dodgers in the 32nd round of the 2010 draft. He is almost the complete opposite of Andre as Devon hits and throws right handed, and is a light hitting yet speedy offensive player. In his sophomore season at Gateway Community College in Arizona, Ethier hit .315 with 34 runs scored in 50 games, and stole 21 games in 24 attempts. He also threw 23 innings and posted a 4.70 ERA. After the draft, Devon said “I don't believe in any way or form that I'm in his (Andre's) shadow. I'm a completely different person and player. I'm on my own path. For me, it's amazing he's in The Show (big leagues) and with the Dodgers. It's a big 'Wow' for me. You don't find many people who have older brothers playing in the major leagues.” Devon signed late with the Dodgers in 2010 so his first real professional season came in 2011, and boy was it ugly. Ethier only collected 5 hits all season long and ended up batting .119 for the year. He also struck out in a third of his at bats, and due to his struggles was used very sparingly and only participated in 27 games. He didn’t even get to show off his speed because he basically never got on base. I’m not sure what the Dodgers will do with Ethier in 2012 because he’ll be almost 22 years old, but his stats don’t warrant a promotion. I’m guessing he’ll return to the Arizona Rookie League for another season but if he continues to struggle I don’t think he’ll be around much longer.
151. Andrew Shellon, RHP (18.1 IP in DSL in 2011)
Signed by Dodgers 8/20/10
6’2”, 150 lbs, 19.25 years old
2-2, 5.40 ERA, 1.31 WHIP, 5.98 FIP, 6.38 K/9
Pre 2011 Rank: N/A; Pre 2010 Rank: N/A; Pre 2009 Rank: N/A
Signed out of Panama in August of 2010, Andrew Shellon made his professional debut in the DSL in 2011. The Dodgers were careful with his 18 year old, limiting him to just 15 relief appearances for the season, and he responded by having a very inconsistent year. He proved to be somewhat unhittable as opposing batters hit just .172 against him, but he was also very wild and all didn’t have a great strikeout rate. He is still very young, however, so his control is something that he can hopefully improve next year. In addition, he has frame that is similar to Rubby De La Rosa’s when he signed as an 18 year old, so hopefully he’ll get better nutrition and gain some weight just like Rubby did. Overall, despite his pedestrian stats and his extremely high walk rate, I have a good feeling about Shellon and consider him a sleeper heading into 2012.
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Just a guess
MLB will approve:
Torre/Caruso group
Kasten/Magic group
Gilbert/Larry King, et al group
Just not sure about the other ones. And can’t say MLB will approve Mark Cuban either.
Not sure
I mean MLB sets their own criteria so who knows but I think the three I picked have both the baseball inside folks and probably the financing to make the deal.
I thought the limit
was 10.
They could approve the Garvey/Hershiser group, the Claire group and the O’Malley group but I don’t see Frank going for them.
There is zero chance of a secret group that would possibly try to win the Dodgers and move then back to Brooklyn right? Also, also approved bidders get to submit 1 bid and highest bidder wins? Nobody can outbid the current highest bidder once its known?
moving the team would require league approval and massive payments to the mets and yankees. ain’t happening
by G.Scott on Jan 4, 2012 1:30 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
McCourt chooses the winning bid
by Eric Stephen on Jan 4, 2012 1:30 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I have to think garvey’s actions as a dodgers employee will affect frank’s decision. hell, cynic in me says he asked to choose the final buyer to spite both bud and garvey.
by G.Scott on Jan 4, 2012 1:32 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
if 10 people bid, would you expect MLB to approve all of them, or only some? if some, do you think they would error on too few or too many? if they only approve the top bid, would that be a creative way to get around frank getting to choose?
by G.Scott on Jan 4, 2012 2:20 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
Remember that all of this was agreed to as part of what is going on in the Bankruptcy matter
so MLB would have to act in good faith in whatever they do since they may have to answer to the Court if their process appears flawed.
yeah, it appears I counted 1324 instead of 1234. my math, she is like my English.
by G.Scott on Jan 4, 2012 2:28 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
Andwe approve the high bidder …Mr. Truocm
/rips off mustache
Hah! it was me all along Bud!
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by regfairfield on Jan 4, 2012 2:28 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
you know your childhood was built on the WWF when…
by G.Scott on Jan 4, 2012 2:29 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
Ummmm wrestlers wear masks when they want to hide their identity further more
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tell that to Hulkcully Hulken
by G.Scott on Jan 4, 2012 2:34 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
in WCW
Didn’t a masked wrestler attack Ric Flair, only to turn out the guy under the mask was Ric Flair?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 4, 2012 2:35 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
I am now picturing a toilet bowl scene where the transition from fecal material to porcelain is indeterminate. Thanks for that.
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and honestly
Probably not the dumbest thing they did.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 4, 2012 2:39 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Terrible
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 4, 2012 2:44 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Even though Bleacher Report is just terrible
I love reading all the WWE stuff, because usually they have good stuff on the history of WWE/F and WCW and stuff.
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“The main event on the show, believe it or not, was Flair kissing a donkey”
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I guess a donkey show was inevitable.
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Things I learned today: Jeff Shaw and Matt Herges were almost exactly the same player for the Dodgers.
Shaw: 235 IP, 3.37 ERA 166 Strikeouts
Herges: 234 IP, 3.38 ERA, 169 Strikeouts
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I totally read Shaw was only on the Dodgers for 2 seasons
Guess that’ll happen when your head is pounding (or me any time).
Good thing Matt Herges didn’t cost us the 2nd best hitting prospect in baseball.
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Heh
How often does a # 158 prospect “shock the world”?
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don't know
we’re the only team ever to have a #158 prospect
by G.Scott on Jan 4, 2012 1:33 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
seriously…. you really gotta be into minor league baseball to care about ranking prospects this deep…. infact, I’d say you’d have to love minor league baseball more then major league baseball.
I think it's amazing Brandon does this much analysis for us
Very cool
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I still like the name
Faustino Oguisten
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how the hell did we ever win 8
by G.Scott on Jan 4, 2012 1:54 PM PST via Android app up reply actions 1 recs
Hey there
Emma Span @emmaspan
Kind of regret telling the gynocologist I was a sports writer. Just discussed Bernie Williams’ HOF case mid-pap smear.
when I said Paul O'neill, GM earlier
my first instinct was to say Bernie Williams
by G.Scott on Jan 4, 2012 1:52 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
that has to be so amazingly uncomfortable, i would be so mad
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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Evan Silva from Rotoworld is predicting a Detroit Lions upset this Saturday (by three points). This guy is one of the most knowledgeable football minds but I just can’t see it happening. New Orleans is fucking unstoppable right now, especially at home.
who for a further in the playoffs this year: Cincinnati’s Bengals or Boston’s Chad Ochocinco
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I know I just woke up and all, so it could just be me, but I’m having trouble figuring out what you just asked.
I think the Bengals will win in the first round. Both Cinci and NE have a real shot at losing in the 2nd round though.
if Cinci wins they play NE
6th seed blues
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 4, 2012 2:01 PM PST up reply actions
my English
she is like Ukraine
by G.Scott on Jan 4, 2012 2:06 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
lets see
defense(passing and rushing) – Houston
Russ offense – Houston
Passing offense – Houston
It comes down to whether dalton and green are better then AJ and yates, and I’m going with probably not, and even if so, not so much so that it can make up for everything else.
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Its going down to whether yates shits the bed or not
OD and AJ are better then Green whoever else
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I think OD is going to block a lot. AJ obviously is better than anything Cinci has but is he 100%?
Dalton/Green is pretty dynamic and have been together all year.
I think Texans win if they just get their D back on track. Green could have a rough day against Joseph.
Green is going to get his
probably 60-80 yards. His ability to go up and get the ball is just almost impossible to completely defend against. JJ will limit the damage though
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the one half that Yates got with AJ at about 80 percent
AJ put up 97 yards in the first half.
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If they need a TE to stay in and block they'll go to a 2 TE set
or send OD into the slot and bring Casey or Dreesen to block. Sleeper of the game is James Casey. If they go full playbook for yates watch out for him.
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why wouldn't i?
one has had a better offense and defense all year and one head to head when they played this year, one doesn’t and didn’t. And AJ is back.
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it was a month ago
Yates was under center in that game. Our team is the same, except we get AJ back.
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Your defense hasn’t looked anywhere near the same. You can blame that on Wade being gone but I see bigger issues.
We had a bad game against the Panthers
other then that our defense hasn’t been that bad. I’m not throwing out a seasons worth of great play because of a couple of games
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heck after the emberrising showing
the titans put up against our backups I would think you would hesitate before doubting us :-p
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It’s such an embarrassment when you win a game….
Oh, not sure if you’ve noticed or not, but the Titans weren’t a very good team this year. They were a bad team that was projected to win 5 or 6 games and played like that projected team most of the season. How they ended up with 9 wins is beyond me.
The Bengals are a much better team than the Titans. Your knock on the Titans makes no sense except to show your hatred for the Titans. Meh.
My opinion that the Texans are going to lose to the Bengals has nothing to do with any sort of hatred I have for the Texans. I, as well as most Titans fans, don’t really care about the Texans. If they win or lose I rarely care either way. The only time I do care about what the Texans are doing is when they are playing the Titans.
I don’t think it did. I just tried my best to not sound like an ass while responding and it turned into a lot more words than I wanted to use.
Simple response.
I laugh at Texans fans because of how much hatred they have for the Titans and their fans. What most don’t realize is there are many of us that were Houston Oilers fans before they were the Titans so we don’t have any such animosity towards the team that plays where we used to play.
That and the Titans sucked this year, but somehow finished with a winning record.
uh huh
the reality is the titans are just an easy team to dislike. The owner is a jackass and the team plays dirty. You can try to deny a rivalry all you want, but the players don’t seem to be listening.
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Most, if not all, of those players weren’t a fan of the Titans when they were the Oilers.
Most of the players and fans in TN see the Ravens or Colts as our biggest rival. Third on the list would be the Jaguars. That leaves the Texans as the fourth biggest rival to the players and fans in the state of TN.
Those of us that were fans of the Oilers though don’t even rank them that highly. It might become more of a rivalry now that the Texans are actually playing good on the field but up until last year the Texans were just ignored by most fans. They hadn’t done anything to warrant any sort of animosity.
You left out one important thing: They are the Cincinnati Bengals. They’ll figure out a way to screw it up.
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At least they get to Super Bowls once in a blue moon.
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Many of these kids parents hadn’t even met yet.
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Who's Houston's starter at qb?
Also, hasn’t Houston been floundering?
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Phillips hurt most of all
Reggie Herring a DC does not make. Phillips is back though.
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they took their feet off the gas after they clinched the division
They beat the Falcons and Bengals both with Yates under center and without AJ for most of those games. The only reason we lost to the titans is because we played 2nd and 3rd stringers and elected not to kick the tying extra point because we didn’t want to go to OT in a meaningless game
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Cinci has a shot, yes?
4 out of 10 games?
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 4, 2012 2:44 PM PST up reply actions
It should be a good game
but I wouldn’t be surprised if we beat them up
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Here is what that Evan Silva said on it as silverwidow mentioned earlier (rotoworld)
Why the Texans will win: Even with Yates struggling, Houston possesses more big-play ability on offense than Cincinnati and has a more well-rounded defense. Andre Johnson’s return to a near full-time player gives the Texans a weapon the Bengals didn’t have to sweat in Week 14. At home, I like Houston to hold Cincinnati to two TDs or fewer, and cover the three-point spread.
I would like it
if somehow they could lose, but keep playing so they can lose again each week
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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!
Accuscore on ESPN is giving the bengals a 35% chance
Detroit 22%
Denver 26%
Atl 41%
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 4, 2012 2:46 PM PST up reply actions
Tim Howard just booted a backpass up into the wind and it took a crazy bounce over the opposing goalkeeper and in.
by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Jan 4, 2012 1:59 PM PST reply actions
I like the fact that he barely celebrated, he knows shitty goal karma can come around.
by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Jan 4, 2012 2:47 PM PST up reply actions
That looks like one of those fake LeBron commercials from a few years ago. Anyways, Tim Howard will always be my favorite footballer.
Did those Lebron commercials show him getting a ring? :)
Nah, I know the ones. Didn’t Michael Vick also throw a ball out of the stadium in the same ad campaign?
No, our team sucks, our owner is still here, our GM is still here, and Vinny is another year older.
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For SC fans, schedule...
Sept. 1 Hawaii
Sept. 8 vs. Syracuse (at E. Rutherford, N.J.)
Sept. 15 at Stanford
Sept. 22 California
Oct. 4 (Th.) at Utah
Oct. 13 at Washington
Oct. 20 Colorado
Oct. 27 at Arizona
Nov. 3 Oregon
Nov. 10 Arizona State
Nov. 17 at UCLA
Nov. 24 Notre Dame
I’d like to think so man, but I’d hate to jinx anything, so officially im going to say I would think a Pac 12 team probably trips us up somewhere along the way.
Eric, before on usctrojans.com you could see SC schedules 2-3 years down the road or so… I knew we were playing Ohio St 2 years before we actually did… now you can only get this upcoming one, thats it….. Have any idea why? Is it because of the expansion to the Pac12, all future schedules were erased?
No, I don’t know why they aren’t on there anymore.
But I know they will play Texas in 2017 and 2018. 2017 is also the year the Pac-12 starts playing the Big Ten each year.
With the TV deals in place
I think it is difficult to set schedules that far in advance. With Thursday and Friday night games in play now too.
http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa/pac-10/usc-trojans.php
Here is some info on future schedules, guess this is the site to go to now. Since we play in Hawaii next year, we’ll have 13 regular season games.
Per the Cal website - talking about their Big Game scheduled in October
Each year, the schedule is voted on by all the Athletic Directors, the version Cal and Stanford preferred had their game scheduled for 11/17 but that one would have also impacted other schools.
It seems that at best teams can probably set tentative schedules for non-conference games (typically all of those except for USC and Stanford playing Notre Dame, are played in September) but with 9 conference games, there will always have to be conference games played in September too.
October 27th at Arizona looks like a game USC would blow
by Michael White on Jan 4, 2012 2:23 PM PST up reply actions
That’s the one I focused on. I will have to laugh if the first loss is in New Jersey though.
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hell yeah that would suck…. If that happens I wonder if Barkley could still enter the NFL supplemental draft.
Not that I would want to jinx him
but USC has had an unbelievable streak of not having a quarterback get hurt and miss significant time in a season. I mean I can’t recall it happening since Carson Palmer was the QB.
That is almost unheard of in major college football.
I guess it wasnt significant time but all I can remember of late is Booty getting hurt, missing maybe 3 games? I think we lost the game he suffered the initial injury, and Carroll was blasted by SC fans for it, because we feel we lost because Carroll kept him in game hurt… thats my memory of it anyways.
That sounds about right. Booty had a thumb injury in what would have been 2007. That was when they lost to 41-point underdog Stanford in LA IIRC. Then Sanchez started and lost in Oregon. At least I think that’s what happened.
I remember I forbade my mom from watching USC games after that as she was at my brother Kelly’s house for both losses.
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Oct. 20 BYE
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Nov. 3 Arizona
Nov. 10 at Washington State
Nov. 17 USC
Nov. 24 Stanford
Nov. 30 Pac-12 Championship
Look at Peter Yoon scheduling the Pac 12 title game for UCLA, intentional?
I know nothing about this guy but
doesn’t a Div I (or whatever it is called now) player have to sit out one year after a transfer to another Div I school?
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yes they do have to sit out 1 year unless its something where a team gets sanctions, and allows players to leave without that transfer rule.
I never did understand that deal.
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He got his bachelor’s in three years, played his 4th year at NC State as a grad student studying “educational leadership and policy analysis”. The rules allow a waiver on the one-year of sitting out for graduate students. Kind of an interesting exception.
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now that Southern Cal is bowl eligible
about time for another 13 – 9 season ruiner
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 4, 2012 3:12 PM PST up reply actions
actually UCLA does worry me…. I dont expect them to take losing 50-0 lightly, and this years game ill be worried about the payback…. especially if it turns out USC has BCS title game hopes going into it.
After all, USC beat UCLA 66-19 the year before that 13-9 loss, so when USC beats UCLA that bad, I get kinda worried the following year…. I wish USC could just beat them in a nice way, where they feel like they had a chance, and no piss them off.
The year before that 1 pt loss to Stanford when we were 41 pt favorites, we beat them the previous year 42-0… Maybe I am looking at just a few cases, but I just get scared about the karma being set for the following year when you whip a teams ass badly… I’d like to think that 1 pt loss to Stanford started that program to where they got to now…. just like I think that tuck rule bullshit started Brady and NE to where they are now haha
Jim Harbaugh being able to coach, recruiting Andrew Luck and a pair of offensive linemen that will go in the first round of the NFL draft got Stanford to where they are now, among other things. Not because USC beat then 42-0.
I want to believe Stanford can keep being good
but losing luck and 2 early first round selections from their line is going to be a killer
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and unlike Southern Cal, those kids have to be able to spell and add
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 4, 2012 3:34 PM PST up reply actions
I was thinking that Nebraska running up the score every year on Kansas for five decades didn’t exactly change things. One team was good, one was bad.
by Michael White on Jan 4, 2012 3:35 PM PST up reply actions
I couldn’t even tell you what sponsor has their naming rights now and I was there just last season. It is a great place to watch a football game though.
I was there last season and it was called Qwest Field.
Not sure if the joke is that it’s been renamed since then.
by Michael White on Jan 4, 2012 3:06 PM PST up reply actions
It has
now CenturyLink Field, which I couldn’t remember.
All Washington home games are there next season. I assume they are renovating Husky Stadium or something.
Telecom companies shouldn’t be allowed to buy the naming rights to stadiums anymore.
The frequent name changes are bullshit
by Michael White on Jan 4, 2012 4:21 PM PST up reply actions
Thank goodness Staples is still in business, eh?
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Marlins close to a deal for Big Z from the Cubs, per Rosenthal.
Zambrano and Guillen were made for each other.
I like him
Not much with the bat, but his glove sounds amazing.
If they get him (the cubs), then are they just abandoning Vitters as their future 3B?
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could be Odd Couple meets the Jeffersons meets ???
they room together in a tony neighborhood in west palm beach and their neighbors constantly mistake them for gardeners or drug dealers or any other miami hispanic sterotype
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 4, 2012 2:49 PM PST up reply actions
I am so setting the DVR for that
shit man, why am I not a TV executive
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 4, 2012 2:51 PM PST up reply actions
Damn, the Blake DeWitt / Matt Dominguez platoon was my plan
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Didn’t someone’s tell the Detroit Line fan (Silver Widow or Nolander) they were full of hooey when they said the Lions would overshoot and play .500 this year?
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he didn't believe in them cause they couldn't run the ball
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this is what made me think they’d shit the bed, I quickly figured out they were pretty damn good
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 4, 2012 3:11 PM PST up reply actions
they didn't beat a single team with a record better then 500
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beating the bad teams is the start of being good
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 4, 2012 3:12 PM PST up reply actions
I'm not going to not take pride in the Texans ripping off 7 in a row
even if most of those teams stunk. Man they where really on a tear there
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their biggest wins
are Broncos, Cowboys Raiders. They beat the Bears before Cutler went down so thats probably their signiture win.
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I pissed on the Lions and the Bills
looks like I was half right
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 4, 2012 3:10 PM PST up reply actions
Bills did some damage
then people realized their defense couldn’t rush the passer or cover recievers. I blame Merriman going down
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I blame Bills giving Fitz that contract… seemed like as soon as they gave it, he went down hill…. good thing for them its not much, and they could get out of it still I think.
That fuck ruined a very good 24 hours in my life
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Also
just wanted to say fuck those Bills. I was still bitter at 51-3 and rooted for the Giants in that game.
If Kelly had been a better son they would not have kept going back to the well so we can thank him for that.
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If the Bills
had knocked Victorino down, we aren’t having this conversation
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fitz will be rich
the bills will be able to ditch him without too much damage if he doesn’t bounce back next year. Couldn’t do that in baseball.
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as soon as he got that contract
their defense gave up a TD on every drive they tried to defend in the 1st quarter for a month straight. Fitz was then forced to throw a lot when everyone knew it was coming. The results where ugly.
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They already where playing terribly before that
and Spiller showed he is no chump when he got the opportunity. If that team can get any sort of a pass rush next year they will be much much better
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and they are young
I’m wondering if the Jets start to implode. Probably just wishful thinking on my part.
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I think they certainly might
best players are aging, young players have questions
big loud mouth personalities get old
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 4, 2012 3:32 PM PST up reply actions
their line is getting up there
if that O line goes that team goes.
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It was easy to like Detroit because they have the best WR in the game, the NFL’s strongest armed QB and a defense that looked improved (though that has obviously cracked a bit).
one year does not make the best WR
but then again I could just go on saying Foster is the best RB in the NFL.
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Steelers at Ravens for AFC Championship would be violent and beautiful
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 4, 2012 3:25 PM PST up reply actions
you are welcome to come work in my yard if you happen to finish up early
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 4, 2012 3:27 PM PST up reply actions
So the reality is about four years then?
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I'm hoping to have my bushes removed by the end of this year
and that feels optimistic
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Having the sun down at 5:00 puts a kibosh on the yard work.
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I just have so much plant matter to remove
and only so much garbage can available
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Renting Yard Bins is a must sometimes
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stuffing your neighbors cans also works
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 4, 2012 4:34 PM PST up reply actions
Yes, we have both done that to our advantage.
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For some reason, one of my neighbors (a retired couple), have two green cans, even though the entire flat part of their backyard is either patio or pool. This has come in handy for me several times and I have the standing ok to use their green cans if they have room.
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its just insane how much bush is in my backyard
its really not big, and it feels all the smaller for being surrounded on all sides by overgrown monstrosities. the previous tenant was a fool.
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All this talk of cans and bush…..
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but that costs money and takes space
and then I woudl actually have to do it all in one go
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A repeat of the 90 season would work for me
by Michael White on Jan 4, 2012 3:30 PM PST up reply actions
I am guessing you are talking about 1990 game
The NY Giants have only played the 49ers once in a NFC Title game
1990 – Giants 15 @ 49ers 13
They have played each other 7 times in the playoffs since 1981, twice in Wild Card games, four times in Divisional match ups and once in a title game.
I'm pretty sure Foster leads the NFL in yards from scrimmage by a running back over the last two years
but yes, Ray Rice is really really good. So is MJD, who is amazingly still motoring along.
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Is there really any incentive to PAY a running back?
by Michael White on Jan 4, 2012 3:45 PM PST up reply actions
shelf life of milk on the counter in the sun
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 4, 2012 3:46 PM PST up reply actions
does it help that he is not a Bronco running back?
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like Fred Jackson is never going to get PAID
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 4, 2012 3:50 PM PST up reply actions
probably not
dude is 31, although he doesn’t have much wear and tear
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Arian Foster would like what ray rice has been paid
undrafted free agent.
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But I think Foster has also had better support to work with, and that has to be included in the debate… Im not one to say who is better, but what MJD did this year with that shit ass team he had to work with is simply amazing, kinda Kemp like.
Interesting to me fact about NFC/AFC championship matches
The all-time record for times facing each other in an NFC Championship is 6 (San Francisco 49ers vs. Dallas Cowboys).
But can you guess the four teams (2 different matchups) that hold the record for most times facing each other in an AFC championship game.
Yes
3 times (1975. 1976 and 1977).
Name the other match up that met 3 times (and does not include the Steelers nor Raiders)
I didn’t – but I remembered the 3rd game too late
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 4, 2012 4:02 PM PST up reply actions
Yep
For old time Browns’ fans, John Elway will forever be cursed since his Broncos defeated the then Cleveland Browns 3 times in four years thus blocking their attempts to get to the Super Bowl.
It was the only time in my life I was a Brown fan, simply because a good friend was. Sad times for him. The screams of agony were heard in South Glendale from Chevy Chase to San Fernando.
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Technically
the Bengals have gone the longest of this group without an Conference Title game appearance. The Texans have never been in a AFC Championship game but their first season was in 2002.
Another piece of trivia, if Atlanta, Detroit or San Francisco go on to represent the NFC in the Super Bowl, it will make for 11 different NFC teams in the Super Bowl since the St. Louis Rams won their Super Bowl in 2000.
Patriots vs. Colts? New matchup, but the AFC doesn’t have the same history as the NFC so I figured it wouldn’t be close to 6 times.
by Michael White on Jan 4, 2012 3:54 PM PST up reply actions
Actually these matchups use the same history
since the NFC and AFC title games both started after the NFL-AFL merger.
Your top 5 teams of most appearances in a conference title game:
Pittsburgh, Dallas, San Francisco, Oakland/LA Raiders, LA/St. Louis Rams.
Steelers have been in a bunch of them
lucky me
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 4, 2012 4:03 PM PST up reply actions
why you steeler fan?
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actually im guessing on that, otherwise I have no idea how a valley born and raised guy becomes a Steeler fan, nor do I know how Nolanders became a Texan fan. Things I would like to know though.
didn't you know?
Joe was the kid in the Mean Joe Green Coke commercial.
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Based on memory that commercial was the first great commercial featuring an athlete.
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The great commercial campaign for Lite Beer from Miller with lots of (ex-)athletes may be older. Billy Martin and George Steinbrenner. Bob “I must be in the front rooow” Uecker. Joe Frazier singing.
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Yes, but they were comic relief, this was drama man, drama:)
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Bubba Smith
I also like the easy-opening cans
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The kid should be qworried
about the hand of Sandusky that’s about to snatch him
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because fuck the raiders and chargers
no true local team, and I was starting to take football seriously at the same time the Texans where becoming a TV. After seeing them beat the cowboys on Sunday night football my heart was set.
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not sure if he paid for the stadium actually but he did drop 700 million
while LA had several owners squabling about it
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ok, so I like that you keep your local roots, and are a Texan fan because LA didnt have a team, im cool with that. But what happens once/IF LA does get a team? Are you already too deeply involved? or will you go for the LA team….
I'm in too deep
even King Arthur couldn’t pull me out. I’ll root for an NFC team if we get one
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actually, you are the guy that is a Dodger and Angel fan in here right? So I think you will root for the LA team and Texan team, depending whom the LA team is I guess.
It would actually work really well a lot of time
since Texans play mostly at 10, w/e team comes out here would play at 1…
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Nice move by Theo
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hearing chris volstad is going to cubs in zambrano deal. #marlins
Volstad used to be good I think.
He had a low ERA and terrible perhiperals in his first season.
His xFIP has improved every year so it might not be a terrible return.
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Can’t be a straight deal can it?
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Cubs basically eating the difference between Zambrano and Volstad says Rosenthal.
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So, like 40 pounds?
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Volstad made
$445K in his third year last year, can’t see him jumping up to over $2M in his first arb year.
Who are his comps? And what did they make first year of arb?
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Jason Vargas got 2.5 and he had a much rockier start to his career than Volstad.
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Doesn’t everyone that’s started for three years get at least three or so?
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I think I read that the Cubs are paying
$15M of the $18M of Zambrano’s salary.
They get 3 more years of Volstad and his salary in 2012 will still be less when combined with Zambrano’s than the $18M they owe Carlos.
There’s gotta be a Volstad/prohibition joke in there somewhere
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He hasn’t _, _, ___ since December 5, 1933
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 4, 2012 4:24 PM PST up reply actions
The careers of Elgin Baylor versus Jerry West just don’t seem fair.
Elgin loses every title game he ever played in.
Elgin retires the very season the team jells and steamrolls to the first Laker World Championship
Elgin knee’s are shot to hell
Elgin become General Manager of the worst 20th century NBA Franchise
Elgin is treated like crap, basically a puppet, working for an a hole
Elgin is fired just a year before Blake Griffin shows up
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And West is the suicidal one
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a veritable shower
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I need a drink – but too tired to drink
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 4, 2012 4:33 PM PST up reply actions
We really are, just incredible weather this month.
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We’ll love it until we have to ration water this spring/summer, fit watering the yard into some cockamamie schedule, and take PTA (PDA) showers every other day.
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seeing Tahoe dry was a big wow.
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We’ve had no snow in Carson City at all this season. Being an L.A. driver with a 2WD Explorer, this is a good thing for me.
by jim hitchcock (railway) on Jan 4, 2012 5:23 PM PST up reply actions
really?
i remember that drought. the lake fishing was actually very good then
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A) Sure, less water for the fish to hide in.
B) Because you had to drink more beer instead of water?
C) …
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He must be on a safari
I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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The Rangers have ruled out signing Napoli to a long term deal this winter … so he becomes a UFA after this coming season?
Ultimate Free Agent?
Since this is baseball and they don’t use unrestricted.
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unadulterated. But this is baseball, and everyone is an adulterator
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Who supposedly said this these days? It is an old joke. There is a reference to it in a 1916 pro Germany/Austria-Hungary propaganda newsletter called The Fatherland, and it was probably an apocryphal story then too:
Senator Stone, of Missouri, is one of the ablest men in the Upper House. It was he who reminded a violent pro-Ally sympathizer of the fact that we were not at war with Germany. “Do you deny that the Germans sank the Lusitania,” demanded the G. N., I defy you to answer that." Which reminded the Senator of a story. In a country court house one day in Missouri the prosecuting attorney stated that it was alleged by a certain party that a certain negro was guilty of stealing chickens. “I deny the allegation,” thundered the defendant, “and I defy the alligator.”
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who knew people were so clever before TV
that is a made for 2012 sound bite
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 5, 2012 9:56 AM PST up reply actions
An interesting 7/155 Fielder proposal
2012: $13 million
2013: $16 million
2014: $16 million
2015: $25 million (player option for remainder of contract)
2016: $25 million
2017: $25 million
2018: $30 million
2019: $25 million (team option, $5 million buyout)
Orange Bowl
Another over eh Xei?
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 4, 2012 7:17 PM PST via iPhone app reply actions
West Virginia
Was tired just scoring on their possessions, so they used Clemson’s.
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Dayum
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 4, 2012 7:48 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
clippers
Have figured out if you score 41 points a quarter, you will win a lot of games
by bhsportsguy on Jan 4, 2012 8:07 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
NO!!!!!!!!!!
we’ve been down this road……….
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 4, 2012 8:26 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Hopefully more interested than they are in customer service
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Would this mean that lvdown becomes a part owner?
by The Dude Abides on Jan 4, 2012 9:05 PM PST up reply actions
this is a tree falling in the forest comment
so good, and no one around to hear it
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 4, 2012 10:48 PM PST up reply actions
I wonder if Time Warner would make it through the approval process by MLB. I mean, I would think they would want TW and other broadcast companies to bid on the rights to the Dodgers when the contract is up, to drive up the value of the team.
I hope they don't
The prospect of them owning the team is terrifying.
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 5, 2012 8:12 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Agreed
I think we’ve seen that corporate ownership doesn’t work. Are there any corporate owned teams anymore? Mariners?
Mariners are the only one I can think of
by Michael White on Jan 5, 2012 8:22 AM PST up reply actions
Braves
Liberty Media
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Blue Jays
Rogers Communications
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Garvey and Orel were interviewed during the Clipper game. Bit unusual because they did while the game was going on. Said all the right things about it being personal, how they want to bring the Dodgers another championship. Yet Garvey said something that seemed completely wonky. He said he had been working on putting together a package to buy the team for over a year and a half. All while being paid by Frank McCourt.
If Frank does have the final say, I’d say the Garvey / Orel team will be the last team to get consideration. Orel may have aligned himself with the wrong group. Or maybe Frank does not care and is not vindictive in the slightest.
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they got the cash
He probably doesn’t care
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 5, 2012 8:20 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
speaking of the clips
Did you hear about Gordon and Kaman blasting them?
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 5, 2012 8:21 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Clipper Nation has the fanshot of it. Nothing you would not expect someone who was traded after being told he was not going to be traded to say.
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Kaman
Talking about how professional the Hornets Org was compared to the Clips was kinda funny.
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 5, 2012 8:26 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Basketball players seem to get the most butt hurt about trades compared to other sports. Just from recent Clipper trades, Camby whined both coming and going, Chauncey whined on his way in, Gordon and Kaman on their way out, etc.
by Michael White on Jan 5, 2012 8:27 AM PST up reply actions
Odom
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 5, 2012 8:30 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
The Clippers broadcast had time to kill because the Clippers were running layup lines on the Rockets.
Was nice to be on the other side of Mike and Ralph killing time during a blowout.
by Michael White on Jan 5, 2012 8:22 AM PST up reply actions
I wonder who Garvey and Orel have providing the financing for their bid. I know there is some skepticism of Garvey but Orel seems like a guy who wouldn’t get involved in something unless there was some solid backing.
I don’t think that was ever confirmed
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by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 5, 2012 9:05 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Yeah, see, I trust Orel, but Garvey seems like McCourt-lite to me
I mean, super-lite, but still…
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by Taylor Maricle on Jan 5, 2012 9:30 AM PST up reply actions
Im probably off here, but thing that worries me about group ownership is do they all need to sign off on a trade, or major signing? What if they disagree on whom to sign, and for how much? What if one of the owners wants out? I know its NBA, but didnt the Hawks go through something where they couldnt agree on whom to sign, etc, and had a legal battle trying to push one of the owners out or something??
How so?
One guy is a financial genius and otherwise a pariah
The other guy is the best Dodger first baseman not named Hodges and the father of 3,946 out of wedlock children
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 5, 2012 9:39 AM PST up reply actions
Wasn’t there a fanpost here where Garvey (it could have been someone else) approached one of our posters in a pyramid scheme? It might have been a different former Dodger though.
by Michael White on Jan 5, 2012 10:03 AM PST up reply actions
the rumor I remember about Sax, from when I was like 13 or 14 was that he was very big into snow skiing
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 5, 2012 10:10 AM PST up reply actions
I’d like to see Orel as GM. Ive always considered him very cerebral. And he’s got a touch of ‘sly’ to pull off some genius trades.
by Venergy on Jan 5, 2012 9:52 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
yeah see, if he is part owner, makes himself GM, then he sucks, who is going to fire him? We’d have to hope he sees it himself and steps down?
Chris fears the Jerry Jones syndrome
I don’t want Orel as GM. I don’t like ex-great players as GMs
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 5, 2012 9:55 AM PST up reply actions
Hmmm, I will hind behind
exception that proves the rule
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 5, 2012 10:03 AM PST up reply actions
I’m thinking Orel didn’t go into this just to be a front man. He’s got too much executive experience w/ Texas to just sit on his hands.
by Venergy on Jan 5, 2012 10:06 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
that I can get behind, but the Turner rule, always the god damn Turner rule
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 5, 2012 10:09 AM PST up reply actions
Seems like less than a year of executive experience
From the AP in 2006:
Orel Hershiser is leaving his front-office job with the Texas Rangers less than three months after he resigned as the team’s pitching coach.
Hershiser joined the Rangers in November 2001 as an associate to former general manager John Hart. He had no prior coaching experience when he replaced the fired Oscar Acosta as the team’s pitching coach in June 2002.
So, about 3 months + about 8 months as a Rangers’ executive.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 5, 2012 10:13 AM PST up reply actions
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by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jan 5, 2012 9:07 AM PST reply actions
That’s happened to me at my work. Reg?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 5, 2012 9:08 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
To many geek boners when they read his stats?
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by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jan 5, 2012 9:13 AM PST up reply actions
Do you guys know what company does your firewall? Might have picked up some weird ad. I’ll shoot them an E-Mail.
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by regfairfield on Jan 5, 2012 10:45 AM PST up reply actions
Man, taking pain injections before every game doesnt sound good. Kobe plans to do this 59 more games atleast, then playoffs? Seems to me he should just sit out 2 weeks and heal, and whatever happens to Lakers in that time, happens.
This just in
Chris loves Kobe more than Chris loves the Lakers
I find it refreshing
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 5, 2012 9:35 AM PST up reply actions
Personally, since its a short season, and you never get full respect for winning a title in a short season, I’d wouldnt mind busting a Spurs move. Kobe misses rest of season, Lakers possibly get a top 5-10 pick in what is labeled a deep draft, and now were in business for next season haha
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by Hollywood Joe on Jan 5, 2012 9:45 AM PST up reply actions
That was a shortened season? hmmm, didnt know that, I was 3…. I just remember Laker fans not giving Spurs credit for that title in 99 because it was a short season… or making comments that title doesnt really count because it was a short season…. nobody brought up 81, guess they were too young as well.
you know why the Laker fans said that about the Spurs?
because the Lakers lost
just a bunch of sore loser noise
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 5, 2012 9:51 AM PST up reply actions
I don't see anything about any lockouts prior to 95
what am I missing here
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
all these years
and the photo still makes be smile like the Cheshire cat
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 5, 2012 9:59 AM PST up reply actions
That photo is on the wall in the tunnel from the Dodgers clubhouse to the field.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 5, 2012 10:02 AM PST up reply actions
very similar structure, I bet you could slap a golden spiral on that : )
by Josie Becker on Jan 5, 2012 10:05 AM PST up reply actions
not the first time Garvey (or parts of Steve) have been compared to a flag pole
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 5, 2012 10:06 AM PST up reply actions
yeah, thats the thing, nobody really knows whats going on because doesnt seem like all the details of the injury are known. Doctors on the radio seem to think this injury doesnt require surgery, and would just take 2-4 weeks to heal. Kobe says he cant make it any worse by playing, but doctors on radio say if he is taking pain injections every game, thats not good, and he could permanetly screw up his wrist.
what is the best band name not in use?
I will take Rock and Rock miscellaneous for $1000 Alex
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 5, 2012 10:00 AM PST up reply actions
or movies
If only it was young doctors on the radio.
by Eric Stephen on Jan 5, 2012 10:00 AM PST up reply actions
If Torre's group wins ...
Does this mean Ned keeps his job? They seemed to like working with each other.
by Venergy on Jan 5, 2012 9:40 AM PST via mobile reply actions
So who would be Torre’s GM? Kim Ng?
by Venergy on Jan 5, 2012 9:57 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
speculative but you can create a story about it
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 5, 2012 9:58 AM PST up reply actions
Catcher
Is it fair to say the ideal situation for us would be starting the season with Ellis/Treanor, and Fed forcing our hand midway through the year?
Wouldn't ideal be Ellis being a stud and not having to have our hand forced?
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
the ideal situation is while the 3 of them are in a car driving down to San Diego the San Clemente nuclear reaction has a minor flare that fuses them into one super catcher named Piazza Due
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 5, 2012 10:03 AM PST up reply actions
This but unironically. I really don’t think we signed him to backup FedEx or Griff in the minors.
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by regfairfield on Jan 5, 2012 10:47 AM PST up reply actions
Backing up the Bard makes one anonymous
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 5, 2012 10:48 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Mark Ellis
He’s got to be the most blantant “anchor the infield” addition we’ve had in years (in fact, Luis Gonzalez “anchoring the outfield” is the only comparison that comes to mind.) With young Dee, ??? Uribe, unknown catcher, and flaky James, we almost signed him to be an adult chaperone. Hope he can hit a little.
take this to the baseball thread
I do admire your moxy, however.
I was playing iootp the other day looking for garbagemen to fill in the backup infielder position.. then I realized all the options at my disposal were the fuggin turds we ended up signing – Kennedy, Ellis, Harriston, etc. =(
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jan 5, 2012 10:12 AM PST up reply actions
It's amazing how many college fight songs are directed at a specific opponent
Stand Navy down the field, sails set to the sky.
We’ll never change our course, so Army you steer shy-y-y-y.
Roll up the score, Navy, Anchors Aweigh.
Sail Navy down the field and sink the Army, sink the Army Grey.
by Josie Becker on Jan 5, 2012 10:20 AM PST up reply actions
a second college fight song that is directed at a specific opponent
how many does it take to amaze you?
For the record, I do not know the lyrics to even one
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 5, 2012 10:29 AM PST up reply actions
Golden Bear is ever watching
Day by day he prowls
And when he hears the tread
Of lowly Stanford red
From his lair he fiercly growl
Texas Fight! Texas Fight!
And it’s goodbye to A & M.
Yea, Alabama! Drown ‘em Tide!
Every ’Bama man’s behind you;
Hit your stride!
Go teach the Bulldogs to behave,
Send the Yellow Jackets to a watery grave!
by Josie Becker on Jan 5, 2012 10:33 AM PST up reply actions
Jesus Christ, I couldn’t post every fight song ever, just threw up a few examples
by Josie Becker on Jan 5, 2012 10:35 AM PST up reply actions
I should have said, “it’s interesting how many college fight songs directly reference another school” but I misused amazing as is common in our times. My bad : )
by Josie Becker on Jan 5, 2012 10:37 AM PST up reply actions
And if we chance to see
A man from USC
Every Bruin starts to roar.
by Josie Becker on Jan 5, 2012 10:35 AM PST up reply actions
what a nation of clever song writers our student bodies once were
Would be interesting to see today’s student bodies write lyrics
Punk ass Trojans
aint so thang
strap them on my jimmy
and bust some song ’tang
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 5, 2012 10:37 AM PST up reply actions
you can tell I've thought about this before
what gets me is that you only play this rival school once a year, but these songs are played multiple times every game. So as a Cal fan who knows the words, every game I reaffirm the fact that I’m anti-Stanford. Same goes with UCLA toward USC, Navy toward Army, Texas and aTM toward each other. Those rivalries fuel the whole season.
by Josie Becker on Jan 5, 2012 10:44 AM PST up reply actions
but only if you know the words.
by G.Scott on Jan 5, 2012 10:46 AM PST via Android app up reply actions
you can always tell which songs were written by teachers, and which were written by students. The vocabulary tends to shrink when it was student written:
Fight on for ol’ SC,
Our men fight on to victory.
Our Alma Mater dear
Looks up to you,
Fight on and win
For ol’ SC
Fight on to victory
Fight on!
by Josie Becker on Jan 5, 2012 10:41 AM PST up reply actions
did you just make a funny about Southern Cal students and limited vocab?
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 5, 2012 10:44 AM PST up reply actions
oh most student written songs are repetitive, but yes : )
by Josie Becker on Jan 5, 2012 10:45 AM PST up reply actions
This whole infield could really just completely fall apart
It almost makes neds signing of ever over 34 backup infielder available make sense
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
if the infield was a desert
The dodgers have a souffle infield strategy and if that souffle collapses (as inexperienced cook’s souffles are want to do), the dodgers bought some day old Ralph’s cupcakes as a backup plan
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 5, 2012 10:28 AM PST up reply actions
thats a linebacker that he completely bitches on the first hit
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
don’t make me start pulling out the Hines Ward video
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 5, 2012 10:34 AM PST up reply actions
Andre ethier is built to be a giant at the end of his career. the Andre the Giant headlines write themselves
by G.Scott on Jan 5, 2012 10:44 AM PST via Android app up reply actions
I am ashamed
how much joy I am getting from this
great to focus on a different person each time
I am lost for the next 6 hours
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 5, 2012 10:44 AM PST up reply actions
the guy who wipes out on his own at the 31 was really just scared and wanted an excuse for not engaging the cart
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 5, 2012 10:47 AM PST up reply actions
the guy who gets stuck on the cart and then decides to bail is my favorite
by Josie Becker on Jan 5, 2012 10:47 AM PST up reply actions
haha, that guy wanted no part of being a hero.
The lady does a nice job hurdling one of the victims.
yeah, but she did that for show, she wanted to seem like she was chasing it but she was not going to wrestle that bull either
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 5, 2012 10:59 AM PST up reply actions
bahah
I love it how the dude whos stuck in the drivers seat just says fuck it and rolls off.. navy polo dude runs from all the way out of frame to save the day..
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jan 5, 2012 10:48 AM PST up reply actions
now that I watch it more its probably navy polo dudes fault the thing is out of control in the first place..
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jan 5, 2012 10:49 AM PST up reply actions
he comes from out of frame and is sprinting like his job depends on it…..but how did the pylon get on the accelerator if it wasn’t a practical joke?
by Josie Becker on Jan 5, 2012 10:51 AM PST up reply actions
I never attribute ill will or conspiracy for actions that can be better explained with simple incompetance
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 5, 2012 10:58 AM PST up reply actions
never attribute to malic what can be attributed to stupidity
but I’m having a hard time attributing this one to stupidity
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Navy Polo Guy
Here’s a wide angle shot of the incident.
It definitely looks like a guy in Navy Polo shirt and light colored pants is chasing the cart the whole time.
at my work… we are always on the youtube search for forklift accidents. this is right up there with those
Oh my god
I just spent 15 minutes watching forklift videos
my stomach aches from laughing
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 5, 2012 11:11 AM PST up reply actions
she was all about making a good showing
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 5, 2012 10:59 AM PST up reply actions
my current theory, the man and woman in blue were taking down the field after the game, that’s why all those people are milling about on the field. They were throwing the pylons onto the cart, carelessly, and missed the bed and landed on the accelerator. since they’re weighted, they stuck and the cart took off
by Josie Becker on Jan 5, 2012 11:00 AM PST up reply actions
I actually thought it didn't look terrible for what its trying to do
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
but the preview isn’t really the cover, it is more like just reading a page out of a book at random and out of context
which I often do to judge books
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 5, 2012 11:12 AM PST up reply actions
Yes, but that does not mean some do it poorly.
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
When I saw Paranormal Activity 3, pretty much none of the previews that were being shown on TV were in the actual movie.
Speaking of GIFs, the Barajas/Gordon GIF is somehow only number 24 in SB Nation’s best GIFs of 2011.
NPUT
http://www.truebluela.com/2012/1/5/2684662/busted-and-blue
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
good bye funny video
nothing on the next thread will be as rewarding
by Hollywood Joe on Jan 5, 2012 11:18 AM PST up reply actions

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