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Busted and Blue

I first heard this song from Ray Charles when I was nine. It never strays far from my mind.

My bills are all due and the baby needs shoes and I'm busted
Cotton is down to a quarter a pound, but I'm busted
I got a cow that went dry and a hen that won't lay
A big stack of bills that gets bigger each day
The county's gonna haul my belongings away cause I'm busted.

As much as I try to find something to latch onto as we head into the new year with a MVP and Cy Young in tow, I can't feel it. My spider senses are all tingling disaster disaster, and try as I might, I can't shake it.

The optimism I felt at the end of the year has dissipated like the early snow, replaced with a pit of despair. Ned had a bad winter in 2010, he has compounded that with another bad winter in 2011. A team could handle one, but two bad winters leads to things like the 2009 Met's and that my friends is where I fear we are headed.

Ned has frittered away millions once again, with little to show for the effort other then the extension of Matt Kemp. He should have stopped there because everything he did after that simply makes it harder for his ultimate successor to clean up the mess.

I can see the optimist view if I look real hard. We have a legitimate MVP. We have a real Cy Young. We have an exciting young SS. We had the best 1st baseman in baseball in the last two months of 2011. We have a slugging right fielder coming back from an injury plagued season. We have the holder of the best K/9 ratio in the history of baseball. In the history of baseball.

The Dodger rotation has been solid since Ned took over but never great. It won't be very good in 2012. It won't be bad but it won't be good. I think the best case scenario is a 6th - 7th placement. Once upon a time I always felt the Kershaw/Kuroda/Billingsley trio could match up with any other trio. No longer do I feel this way.

Year NL fWar Placement
2011 3rd
2010 6th
2009 6th
2008 3rd
2007 7th
2006 5th

Our true number two is gone, replaced with soft tossing oldies who put up some decent numbers in pitching parks. Some still hold out hope for Chad Billingsley to become the Don' to Kershaw's Sandy's. We are past that point. On the surface a nice veteran staff, headed by the best left hander to hit this town since FernandoMania. And he may be getting better. However no one else is, they have all seen their best days, including Chad. The bullpen will be extremely taxed by this rotation every fourth day.

This was a below average team for four months last year even with Kemp and Kershaw hitting on every single cylinder. So many things have to go right for this team to be competitive:

1. James Loney simply has to be 33% better then he has upto this point in his career. For two months he gave us a glimpse of what he can do. Can he really break out at age 28 and produce for a full season like a six million first baseman should? Betting on that happening is probably a fools bet.

2. Mark Ellis has to not only stay healthy since we have nothing behind him but Adam Kennedy, but he has to do more then play defense. He has to get on base. He has to have his 2010 season because if he gives us his 2011 season it will be a black hole reminiscent of Juan Uribe. Betting on a 35 year old second baseman rebounding is probably a fools bet.

3. Dee Gordon was everything you'd have hoped for the second time around. Defensive wizardry, killing speed, and even got on base at a functional clip. Yet we know that Dee is just as likely to make the great play as throw the next groundball away. We know that Dee has to get on base to utilize his game changing speed. Can this wisp of a man be the catalyst for the offense? I can hope for it, I can't bet on it.

4. Juan Uribe may bounce back. He had two skills coming into 2011. Above average power for a middle infielder and some defensive ability. He's now a full time 3rd baseman so the power is now average. The defensive skills seemed to remain intact. At his best he was middling, good bet that he'll never see middling again.

5. AJ Ellis has impressed enough to become the starting catcher. Yikes

6. Was Andre's power shortage all related to injuries? From May 31st, 2010 - Oct 1st, 2011 Andre accumulated 996 plate appearances and hit 23 home runs. Basically what James Loney would do in the same number of plate appearances. What has kept Andre relevant during this time is his ability to get on base. If he's going to become Bobby Abreu, that would be cool. I'd bet on Andre recovering some power, I would not bet on Andre staying healthy.

7. If Matt Kemp is not Willie Mays he's going to regress. As long as it not greater then 20% he will still have a great year. The last thing Matt Kemp has to prove is that he is not an odd/even baseball player. This is the year to prove it.
His ODD OPS years - .894 / .842 / .986
His EVEN OPS years - .737 / .799 / .760

If Matt Kemp comes close to his historical OPS in an even year, this team can have everything else go right and still stumble. During his historic 2011 season, he still couldn't keep this team above .500 until the reinforcements showed up in Jim Loney, Gordon, Sands, and Rivera.

8. Juan Rivera drove in a bunch of runs in a very small amount of time. It was impressive, much more impressive then the .666 OPS he put up in even more at bats with the Blue Jays. Juan is done, his act in Aug/Sept was his last curtain call. He will follow Jose Cruz Junior right out the door into oblivion.

I think the long term future is bright, who knows what new ownership will do once they get a handle on things, and with Rubby, Eovaldi, Lee and folk getting ready for 2013 I can get excited about that future. I can't get excited by our current future.

This current incarnation of the Dodgers has to have so many things go right simply to compete that I think we have more of a chance of being the 2009 Mets then anything else. Everything could jell, the veterans could have what it takes, the rookies could come faster, the core could fuse together into a coalition of greatness one time before they are scattered to the winds.

I'd love for that to happen, I'm not betting on it.

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"He's now a full time 3rd baseman so the power is now average"

Third basemen actually hit a lot like middle infielders. Fangraphs had an article on positional offense, with 3rd almost exactly the same as 2nd.

@TElciram

by Taylor Maricle on Jan 5, 2012 11:18 AM PST reply actions  

Outliers like Uggla

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by meercatjohn on Jan 5, 2012 11:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Over the last four years 10 NL second baseman have hit more then 20 home runs.
Uggla four times
Chase twice
Then once by Barmes (Colorado), Weeks, Johnson, Espinosa.

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by meercatjohn on Jan 5, 2012 11:21 AM PST up reply actions  

Third base has outliers too.

The overall picture is about the same, though.

You have Utley and Uggla at 2nd, then you’ve got Zimmerman and Longoria at 3rd.

@TElciram

by Taylor Maricle on Jan 5, 2012 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Not really

same time period
22 seasons, or twice as many

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by meercatjohn on Jan 5, 2012 11:24 AM PST up reply actions  

steroids rip

I remember back in the halcyon days of my 20s when 3Bs and LFs were fucking home run machines and sometimes you could find short stops capable for 20 hr seasons.. We had a good run.

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jan 5, 2012 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Looked it up and “Busted” was a hit for Ray Charles AND Johnny Cash in 1963. Though a much bigger hit for Charles.

by fbihop on Jan 5, 2012 11:20 AM PST reply actions  

first time I ever heard it

Was on the At Folsom Prison album

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 5, 2012 11:23 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Me too.

Just created a Johnny Cash/Ray Charles Pandora station.

by fbihop on Jan 5, 2012 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

That should be great.

You won’t get this but I heard a Johnny Cash song on Kroq two days ago. That was bizarre.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jan 5, 2012 11:27 AM PST up reply actions  

KROQ is the alt-rock station, right?

by fbihop on Jan 5, 2012 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

so they say

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by meercatjohn on Jan 5, 2012 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

was it

His cover of “Hurt”?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 5, 2012 11:29 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

they play that all the time

it helps that its a cover of a NIN song

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Jan 5, 2012 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes, love his cover.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jan 5, 2012 11:30 AM PST up reply actions  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmVAWKfJ4Go

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by meercatjohn on Jan 5, 2012 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Saddest damn music video ever.

by fbihop on Jan 5, 2012 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

He did a song with his daughter called September When It Comes. When someone’s father / mother dies, I always send them that song. They seem to appreciate it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2WilM6ljUg

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by meercatjohn on Jan 5, 2012 11:34 AM PST up reply actions  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6w0r-ScEG4

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jan 5, 2012 11:42 AM PST up reply actions  

hurt?

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Jan 5, 2012 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm having hard time not just bombing this thread

with nothing but amazing sport gifs

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Jan 5, 2012 11:20 AM PST reply actions  

While I think you’re right that so much has to go right, I also think this is a team more worth watching playoff-wise than what we had going into 2011. Especially if the dual-wild card scenario starts this season.

@TElciram

by Taylor Maricle on Jan 5, 2012 11:21 AM PST reply actions  

NL placement based on what?

by Eric Stephen on Jan 5, 2012 11:22 AM PST reply actions  

FWAR

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by meercatjohn on Jan 5, 2012 11:22 AM PST up reply actions  

added

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jan 5, 2012 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

During Colletti's tenure, the Dodgers are 7th in the majors in fWAR. (2nd in the NL)

That’s on the backs of Lowe, Penny, Kershaw, and Billingsley, who can’t necessarily be attributed to him, but if you want to fault him for something, choose offense.

@TElciram

by Taylor Maricle on Jan 5, 2012 11:25 AM PST up reply actions  

I have not faulted Ned for the rotation. Wasn’t the point of the table to show how good the starting pitching has been during his tenure?

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by meercatjohn on Jan 5, 2012 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

"The Dodger rotation has been solid since Ned took over but never great"

Gave me the impression that you were selling the players short, specifically 08-09 to make your point about Colletti.

@TElciram

by Taylor Maricle on Jan 5, 2012 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Okay

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by meercatjohn on Jan 5, 2012 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

I was wondering the same thing

Because the overall 2009 pitching staff led the majors in ERA, iirc. And then i think the rotation came out 2nd or 3rd.

@TElciram

by Taylor Maricle on Jan 5, 2012 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

3rd in FIP, 2nd in ERA in 2009

WAR’s a counting stat so if you use that for a full season you get uneven innings amounts from extra innings, etc.

@TElciram

by Taylor Maricle on Jan 5, 2012 11:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Couple things.

Phil is only talking about starers and the Dodger bullpen was insane in 2009. The team was 5th in WAR overall.

fWAR is based on FIP (which makes the Randy Wolf part of the rotation way worse) and it’s park adjusted so everyone on the team takes a hit (you can say this is dumb with a FIP based system).

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jan 5, 2012 11:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Those are the numbers for only starters.

When you add the bullpen they’re first in ERA.

@TElciram

by Taylor Maricle on Jan 5, 2012 11:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Which doesn’t really matter for the purposes of fWAR.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Jan 5, 2012 11:43 AM PST up reply actions  

No, but implied that the bullpen was a large part of the 2nd in ERA, 3rd in FIP bit

Which is why i mentioned that those were the numbers for the starters.

@TElciram

by Taylor Maricle on Jan 5, 2012 11:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Zambrano as the Marlins’ 5th pitcher for just $2.5 million doesn’t seem like too bad of a thing.

by fbihop on Jan 5, 2012 11:30 AM PST reply actions  

What if the guy they gave up to get him is just as good

just as cheap and has more years of team control?

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Jan 5, 2012 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

2012 Dodgers

A Wing and A Prayer

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 5, 2012 11:35 AM PST via iPhone app reply actions  

I want to refer to this year as the year of “if-if-if-if-if-if-if-if-if-if-if”

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jan 5, 2012 11:38 AM PST up reply actions  

depth is nice

but it doesn’t make sense when you could have simply spent that money to get better starters because ours kinda suck

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Jan 5, 2012 11:44 AM PST up reply actions  

IF is short for infielder.

That was naught but a horrible, horrible joke.

@TElciram

by Taylor Maricle on Jan 5, 2012 11:46 AM PST up reply actions  

I thought it was funny……

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 5, 2012 11:51 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

We’re halfway there.

by Eric Stephen on Jan 5, 2012 11:59 AM PST up reply actions  

… Who could it be?
Believe it or not, Jim Loney.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 5, 2012 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Solid

somehow became viewed as mediocre over time.

by bhsportsguy on Jan 5, 2012 11:35 AM PST reply actions  

Yes, I need to get with it, I always use solid as a positive but evidently it has become “average”.

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by meercatjohn on Jan 5, 2012 12:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I think of solid as slightly above average.

by BFDC on Jan 5, 2012 12:02 PM PST up reply actions  

One definition

Of good quality and substance

by bhsportsguy on Jan 5, 2012 12:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Solid


means good.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jan 5, 2012 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

meercat

looked for you last night at the Clipper game but did not see you in your usual seats, assuming you watched from home.

by bhsportsguy on Jan 5, 2012 11:36 AM PST reply actions  

I was up in the Uecker

seats, a friend put together an impromptu go to the game thing.

by bhsportsguy on Jan 5, 2012 11:37 AM PST up reply actions  

You might have seen the best overall game they will play all year

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by meercatjohn on Jan 5, 2012 11:45 AM PST up reply actions  

Nope, my partner is having prostate surgery on Jan 26th so he’s got most of the early Jan games.

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by meercatjohn on Jan 5, 2012 11:40 AM PST up reply actions  

We are singing the same tune.

I wrote something a while ago with similar tones. Here’s my take – http://www.truebluela.com/2011/11/26/2588139/2012-dodgers-cant-win-pennant-without-help

What hope do we have when the ownership is in flux, we can’t get a TV contract signed, and we owe 20M to guys who don’t even play for us anymore?

If Ned were smart, he would franchise Kershaw, and Ethier now, with a similar pay structure percentage of growth, (obviously not as big) to Kemp’s. Kershaw 5 years 65M, 8M in 2012 and progressively more, with incentives forthwith. Ethier 5 years 73M. 12M in 2012, and ever-increasing after next year. He’s not going to get a better deal, and that’s the going rate for someone of his ability at his age. You make incentives, and throw out the no-trade clause. I realize 5 years isn’t the purest form of “franchising” but it’s the new norm.

You hope for a new owner, butts in seats, better TV contract with $$, stop over paying for veterans (Uribe, Lilly, etc.), and realize that two guys do not a team make.

by bonafide36 on Jan 5, 2012 11:37 AM PST reply actions  

dam, that was a move for Cousins. Cousins didnt like Westphal, asked to be traded, Westphal gets fired to make Cousins happy.

by uschris0304 on Jan 5, 2012 11:38 AM PST up reply actions  

oh, he was 51-120 too, thats will get you the boot… I didnt realize he was even the coach for that long.

by uschris0304 on Jan 5, 2012 11:40 AM PST up reply actions  

NBA players almost always win when it becomes player vs. coach

by Eric Stephen on Jan 5, 2012 12:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Just didn’t think Cousins had that type of cachet.

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by meercatjohn on Jan 5, 2012 12:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Paul Westphal fired after 7 games, Sacramento Kings' new GM Demarcus Cousins announced.

:-/

Yeah I think they’ll be better off with Smart anyway, maybe they should have just hired him from the start, but this makes them look like a total mess.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Jan 5, 2012 12:03 PM PST up reply actions  

new cba

was hoping we could validate this impending disaster of a season with a top 5 pick and deep pockets to drop on a big money draft pick but it seems like those days are gone

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jan 5, 2012 11:37 AM PST reply actions  

Well, you can still get great talent.

The only compelling reason not to sign now besides other sports for two-sport players is draft position, and a top 5 pick isn’t going to hold out for a higher draft position.

@TElciram

by Taylor Maricle on Jan 5, 2012 11:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Top-five picks are at least as likely to be Greg Reynolds as they are to be Troy Tulowitzki.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 5, 2012 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

162

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Jan 5, 2012 11:48 AM PST up reply actions  

I'll take it.

You’ll never see a cool quilt back away…

by cldpc on Jan 5, 2012 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Over

We’ll most likely be in the low 80’s unless a lot goes right

@TElciram

by Taylor Maricle on Jan 5, 2012 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

I’d say over. Put the line at 80.5 myself.

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by regfairfield on Jan 5, 2012 11:55 AM PST up reply actions  

They will have played 87 games by the all-star break. O/U on that?

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by meercatjohn on Jan 5, 2012 12:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Gurnick says MacDougal and the Dodgers are “close”

by Eric Stephen on Jan 5, 2012 12:01 PM PST reply actions  

was just gonna say...

god, please make it a 1 year deal, please make it a 1 year deal…. (I’m fine bringing him back, but if it’s a Ned Special, gah.)

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Jan 5, 2012 12:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Why would MacDougal accept a one year deal?

If I was MacDougal and Ned offered me a one year deal, I’d say “Huh???I’ve proven myself with the team. You signed all these other clowns to two year deals, so why not me, too?”

Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent.

by latenite on Jan 5, 2012 12:21 PM PST up reply actions  

because he was a lucky fuck who should consider himself lucky to even get a major league contract offer.

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by meercatjohn on Jan 5, 2012 12:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Why would MacDougal accept a one year deal?

Demand

by Eric Stephen on Jan 5, 2012 12:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Right – if I were MacDougal, I’d sign elsewhere (if there are any other offers, of course!) Just as a matter of principle.

Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent.

by latenite on Jan 5, 2012 12:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Also, supply.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Jan 5, 2012 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Then if this is true, wouldn’t we better off with an existing, controlled 40 man roster pitcher filling in for bullpen help? Why sign him at all???

Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent.

by latenite on Jan 5, 2012 12:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Because whenever Ned has a signing go unexpectedly well he keeps them around for way too long.

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by regfairfield on Jan 5, 2012 12:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Like Kuroda?

Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent.

by latenite on Jan 5, 2012 12:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Kuroda was awesome. Now he can go age with someone else. I like the timing of the parting of ways.

by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Jan 5, 2012 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

thats the sound of the other members of the pitching staff’s eras going up bc mac’s love of letting inherited runners score

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jan 5, 2012 12:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Hard to argue against this Phil

I do feel optimistic about their more distant future, as soon as 2013. I think new ownership and new GM, whoever they are will change the landscape, too, hopefully for the better. And there is hope on the horizon in the minors, mostly pitching, and mostly after this year. But who knows. Rubby will get me excited again when he comes back. But this coming year looks like too much has to go right for them to compete, alas.

Still, there’s enough there to keep me watching, and 2012 will be full of interesting flux (with new owners) which beats the acid re-flux feeling the current people leave me with.

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by underdog on Jan 5, 2012 12:06 PM PST reply actions  

I agree with this. As much as I can’t stand Uribe and will probably dread watching M. Ellis and Kennedy, there are still plenty of reasons to tune in. I am particulary interested to watch Gordon and Sands to see how they develop.

by OB12 on Jan 5, 2012 12:13 PM PST up reply actions  

I would watch the Dodgers for Dee and Kershaw, even if every other player was 2012 miguel tejada.

by G.Scott on Jan 5, 2012 12:15 PM PST via Android app reply actions  

We all watched the first half of 2011, can’t imagine it being any worse then that.

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by meercatjohn on Jan 5, 2012 12:17 PM PST up reply actions  

that

and the two of them will be exciting to watch, regardless. I get the value of my ticket or time covered just watching Dee run out a 6-3

by G.Scott on Jan 5, 2012 12:18 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

How much did Dodgers need to go right in 1988?

by uschris0304 on Jan 5, 2012 12:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Like 1988, the Dodgers have so much crap on their roster they would need a Cy Young and an MVP to compensate…
oh, wait.

by court168627 on Jan 5, 2012 12:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Funny

I’m actually more confident going into this season than I was last. I still don’t think the 2012 Dodgers are a playoff team, but I feel a little bit better about them.
And remember, the 2009 Mets didn’t crash and burn necessarily becuase of bad GMing. They had a biblical amount of injuries that could not have possilby been forseen.

by court168627 on Jan 5, 2012 12:17 PM PST reply actions  

and Scott Schoenweis.

by G.Scott on Jan 5, 2012 12:19 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

I am always hopeful at the start because anything can happen in baseball, who cares whats on paper. I didnt see AZ doing what they did last year, maybe we can be like that this year. Hopeful for a nice mid season move or 2 as well. But until playoffs are out of reach, i’ll be watching.

by uschris0304 on Jan 5, 2012 12:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Exactly, there are surprise teams every year (and it seems like the NL West always has one of them)

by court168627 on Jan 5, 2012 12:22 PM PST up reply actions  

2010 Padres for example.

by OB12 on Jan 5, 2012 12:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Can you name the top selling vinyl LP in 2011

it sold approximately 41,000 LPs.

Hint – it was the third year in a row that this LP led all vinyl sales.

by bhsportsguy on Jan 5, 2012 12:20 PM PST reply actions  

Guessing

it is either

Zeppelin

The Beatles

John Lennon

The Stones

Sinatra

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 5, 2012 12:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Abbey Road? who is Abbey Road? haha…. I didnt know you could by vinyl records anymore, where in the valley can you do this?

by uschris0304 on Jan 5, 2012 12:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Freak Beat Records

is the only good record store I’ve been to in the Valley (Sherman Oaks). I think it only has used records though.

by court168627 on Jan 5, 2012 12:36 PM PST up reply actions  

It was of course

The Beatles

Abbey Road is the LP

by bhsportsguy on Jan 5, 2012 12:37 PM PST up reply actions  

41,000 people are dumb. Those Beatles vinyl reissues are pretty damn expensive and every used record store is stocked with original pressings for at least half the price.

by court168627 on Jan 5, 2012 12:39 PM PST up reply actions  

My wife and my nephew surprised me at the office

So I took them to the gathering for food trucks by the Staples next to the CNN building

I ate “Korean” tacos in descending order of tastiness from the TnB truck
Pork
Beef
Chicken
Shrimp

Review: Ok, would eat there again, but never go looking for it

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 5, 2012 12:30 PM PST reply actions  

I got excited
by the Staples

looked like

by Staples

You nearly solved my issue regarding what to have for lunch.

Also… I would think pork would lead the any list of tastiness.

You’ll never see a cool quilt back away…

by cldpc on Jan 5, 2012 12:31 PM PST up reply actions  

What

makes a taco Korean? Is it full of korean bbq and kimchi type fillings? In a regular hard or soft taco shell?

by Xeifrank on Jan 5, 2012 12:57 PM PST up reply actions  

I’d tell you her name but a gentleman never kisses and tells

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 5, 2012 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

wow – I really need a filter

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 5, 2012 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m gonna step away from the keyboard on this one

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 5, 2012 1:02 PM PST up reply actions  

SUSHI BURRITO

Do not mess with the sushi burrito.

Still chasing the dream of mediocrity

by Humma Kavula on Jan 5, 2012 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Gurnick saying on Dodgers.com

The MacDougal deal would be 1 year/ $1 million

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 5, 2012 12:31 PM PST via iPhone app reply actions  

1 mil for 1 year. How creative.

You’ll never see a cool quilt back away…

by cldpc on Jan 5, 2012 12:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Ned just dropped his pants in front of TBLA and says “How do you like me now”

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 5, 2012 12:32 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s harmless enough.

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by regfairfield on Jan 5, 2012 12:34 PM PST up reply actions  

That seems perfectly reasonable.

by OB12 on Jan 5, 2012 12:34 PM PST up reply actions  

That is so reasonable I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop

“plus $5 mil in incentive bonuses "

“$4 million if Ned gets canned”

but I’ll take it just fine if that’s the deal!

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by underdog on Jan 5, 2012 12:44 PM PST up reply actions  

thats quite fine actually

by NotJoeTorre on Jan 5, 2012 12:55 PM PST up reply actions  

that is what I am saying

Ned is mocking us

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 5, 2012 12:56 PM PST up reply actions  

if he signs Fielder

It’ll be the ultimate fake-out. “You believed that crock of shit about having no money? HAHHAHAHA!!!!!”

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Jan 5, 2012 1:00 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

How ' Bout the Bright Side?

Starting pitchering is 6 deep and looks solid…only one “ace” at the top so gonna need some consistent tweeking / monitoring by the coaching staff
Bullpen is deep with decent experience…is Javy Guerra the man?
LF…Rivera and others, not a lot of power but platoon should combine for (.270/20/85)
CF…Kemp ain’t gonna do that again, but he should do pretty darn well (.310/35/120)
RF…Ethier is gonna come back strong (contract thing and all) best year (.290/29/101)
Catcher…Ellis does O.K and Fed starts to play like he’s the future (.250/10/70)
3rd…Uribe plays 140 games, when he’s hot he’s hot! (.250/18/85)
SS..Gordon plays like last year…erratic on D and scores 100 runs (.270/1/45)
2nd…Ellis plays D, steady influence in clubhouse (.250/7/45)
1st…Prince Fielder joins his buddy Kemp and makes everyone in the lineup a little better
He gets the same contract AND the same stats (except stolen bases) but he has been working out with Matt and ends up leading the team in triples
The bench is deep and versatile…injuries can be absorbed short term
This team is gonna win the division and if Kershaw can have a couple of other starters step up to bring their “B” game we just might have something going on here.
SIGN FIELDER…the team will sell for more money with him on board and he wants to be here!

"rudeness is the weak man's imitation of strength"...Eric Hoffer

by BaldBilly on Jan 5, 2012 12:32 PM PST reply actions  

Pretty excited for the return of Jersey Shore tonight.

by delias man on Jan 5, 2012 12:33 PM PST up reply actions  

I love humor, especially playful needling humor

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 5, 2012 12:33 PM PST up reply actions  

hell yeah son…. I got my Snooki wig and Situation abs ready to go for my Jersey Shore season premier party…. finally, a real holiday.

by uschris0304 on Jan 5, 2012 12:34 PM PST up reply actions  

it is possible to develop concussion like symptoms from watching too much reality TV?

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 5, 2012 12:35 PM PST up reply actions  

What kind of wine does watching Jersey Shore go with?

by Xeifrank on Jan 5, 2012 12:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Boones Farm Strawberry Hill

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 5, 2012 12:38 PM PST up reply actions  

you’ll have to tie me to the chair and tape my eyelids open first

but sure

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 5, 2012 12:41 PM PST up reply actions  

At shady liquor stores across the country. The closer the name is to just “Liquor” the better.

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by regfairfield on Jan 5, 2012 12:41 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

That reminds me of my college thesis which was on a related subject matter.

How nice of an area you live in is inversley proportional to the number of 7-Elevens in a 5 mile radius of where you live.

And then there was…

A corrolary to this, is that how nice of an area you live in is really inversley proportional to the number of liquor stores in a 2 mile radius of where you live.

I will save you all the crazy math that goes with this.

by Xeifrank on Jan 5, 2012 12:46 PM PST up reply actions  

reminds me of my college experience

How many prescriptions of penicillin the student health center prescribes for you is directly proportional to the number of Sorority houses in a 5 mile radius of where you live.

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 5, 2012 12:49 PM PST up reply actions  

always important

to know how much penicillin to keep in stock.

by Xeifrank on Jan 5, 2012 12:51 PM PST up reply actions  

My favorite Liqour store name

is Hammered Liquor in Glendale

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It's what you're doin' when you're doin' what you look like you're doin'!

by mleadman on Jan 5, 2012 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

most run down liquor stores and your finer sorority houses

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 5, 2012 12:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I dont know, but I think the Jersey Shore and Kardashian shows are tops in ratings, so I guess the majority of this country has a concussion.

by uschris0304 on Jan 5, 2012 12:39 PM PST up reply actions  

You might want to look up the meaning of “majority.”

by fbihop on Jan 5, 2012 12:40 PM PST up reply actions  

ok, maybe no majority, but millions of people anyways.

by uschris0304 on Jan 5, 2012 12:41 PM PST up reply actions  

and the point is?

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by underdog on Jan 5, 2012 12:45 PM PST up reply actions  

More people eat McDonald’s than In-n-Out, therefore McDonald’s is better.

by fbihop on Jan 5, 2012 12:48 PM PST up reply actions  

I forget, but it has something to do with concussions. Joe asked the question.

by uschris0304 on Jan 5, 2012 12:51 PM PST up reply actions  

was just saying, just because millions of americans do something, watching something, eat something

or vote for somebody doesn’t mean that it’s a good/healthy/positive thing. ;)

but yes, I am definitely against concussions!

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by underdog on Jan 5, 2012 12:54 PM PST up reply actions  

yes I realize this…. I just watch it because its funny to me…. and what else is really on at 10pm? Courtv/TruTV took Forensic Files away from me, fuckers, so I got hooked on this. Forensic shows are still my favorite outside on sports though.

by uschris0304 on Jan 5, 2012 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh I thought we were talking about fast food

but… er yeah… I consider Jersey Shore fast food of TV. But each to their own man. I’m sure if you have cable there is other stuff on (Futurama, sports, movies, documentaries on the Hitler Channel…)

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by underdog on Jan 5, 2012 1:02 PM PST up reply actions  

The Hitler Channel? wtf channel is that? Is that a joke for History Channel? haha

by uschris0304 on Jan 5, 2012 1:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes.

It’s sad, but I actually miss the days that History use to show nothing but WWII stuff. Now it’s nothing but ancient aliens and bible conspiracy shit.

by court168627 on Jan 5, 2012 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah I think South Park had a show about that recently…. making fun of how crazy the channel is and history it is not…

by uschris0304 on Jan 5, 2012 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

The Military channel shows nothing but Hitler stuff it seems like

by NotJoeTorre on Jan 5, 2012 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

well, there was this big war

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 5, 2012 1:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Everyone once in a while they show a great video of General Jackson taking New Orleans but yeah, for the most part WWII

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jan 5, 2012 1:11 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Live documentary footage, of course.

by berkowit28 on Jan 5, 2012 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

They had Three Kings the other night.

You’ll never see a cool quilt back away…

by cldpc on Jan 5, 2012 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I am happy not to be a happy cud chewer of the Jersey Shore herd

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 5, 2012 12:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Can we just stop talking about Prince Fielder already. The Dodgers are not signing him. Anyone that still thinks it’s happening is completely delusional.

by court168627 on Jan 5, 2012 12:33 PM PST up reply actions  

If we stop talking delusional topics the world is going to be a very quiet place

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 5, 2012 12:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Where should I start? Politics, religion, economic theory, speedy leadoff hitting, clutch players, proven closers, blitzing on 3rd and long, punting on 4th down on the opponents side of the 50….

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 5, 2012 12:37 PM PST up reply actions  

My personal theory is that there is no such thing as Bigfoots; only slightly smaller ape-men creatures wearing Bigfoot costumes to troll humanity.

You’ll never see a cool quilt back away…

by cldpc on Jan 5, 2012 12:44 PM PST up reply actions  

any Bigfoot sex stories anyone?

My office door is still locked

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 5, 2012 12:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, Andrew Luck exists. So we know a really ugly woman had sex with a Bigfoot about 20 years ago.

You’ll never see a cool quilt back away…

by cldpc on Jan 5, 2012 12:49 PM PST up reply actions  

wow

unprovoked

the dude is a zeke, but not all that

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 5, 2012 12:49 PM PST up reply actions  

haha thats a good one man…. he does look like it too.

by uschris0304 on Jan 5, 2012 1:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Bigfoot! He's real! I knew it! The Loch Ness Monster's book was right!

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by underdog on Jan 5, 2012 12:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t think of any of those as delusional topics. But of course, every argument eventually boils down to the definition of a word.

by court168627 on Jan 5, 2012 12:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Should I share my alien abduction tale of forced sex?

Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent.

by latenite on Jan 5, 2012 12:40 PM PST up reply actions  

HITNG

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jan 5, 2012 12:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Hold on, let me lock my office door

You were saying?

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 5, 2012 12:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Just teasing. However, have you ever noticed that anyone who has ever claimed to have been abducted by aliens and forced into sex with them for reproductive purposes…well, take a good, hard look at these people. I don’t think so! Intelligent aliens wouldn’t stoop so low on the evolutionary ladder.

Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent.

by latenite on Jan 5, 2012 12:45 PM PST up reply actions  

There was a great x files episode that revealed a conspiracy by the government to fake alien abductions on really really stupid people in order to delegitimize actual alien abductions.

by court168627 on Jan 5, 2012 12:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Clever!!!

Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent.

by latenite on Jan 5, 2012 12:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Dana Scully kept that show interesting for me for far longer than that show was interesting for me

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 5, 2012 12:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought we already signed him?

Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent.

by latenite on Jan 5, 2012 12:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I cant help but be delusional…. I mean, what is he waiting for?? feels like Boras is waiting. Fielder doesnt want go play in no Washington DC

by uschris0304 on Jan 5, 2012 12:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Admittedly, there is lower interest in Fielder than he or Boras probably expected. But even with a lower price tag the Dodgers can’t afford him.

by court168627 on Jan 5, 2012 12:37 PM PST up reply actions  

When is the new owners going to be known? even before the sale is official or whatever? Couldnt they give MLB a wink by Feb to allow Dodgers to sign Fielder? I dont know, just hoping for a miracle here.

by uschris0304 on Jan 5, 2012 12:41 PM PST up reply actions  

And that's what it would take.

A miracle. Of course there’s a one in a million chance that it happens. But the odds are about…one in a million.

by court168627 on Jan 5, 2012 12:42 PM PST up reply actions  

fielder is playing the patented boras game

wait until the bitter ass end for a huge contract that hopefully has an opt out clause that will be used at the earliest opportunity in order to receive yet one more huge contract

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jan 5, 2012 12:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Aren’t there plenty of other topics to be complaining about? :)
Like the beat down that the DT team is going to put down on the TBLA team.

by Xeifrank on Jan 5, 2012 12:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Nope. Cuz they need TBLA to field a respectable lineup.

by Xeifrank on Jan 5, 2012 12:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Where are all of these rosters posted. I signed up but was never notified if I’m on a team.

by court168627 on Jan 5, 2012 12:40 PM PST up reply actions  

You are probably still a free agent if your check hasn’t come in the mail yet.

by Xeifrank on Jan 5, 2012 12:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Seriously. Did Weisman post his roster? I signed up with MSTI as my second team and I know he hasn’t posted anything yet.

by court168627 on Jan 5, 2012 12:43 PM PST up reply actions  

No he hasn’t posted it but he wrote on here that he had his roster and that anyone could email him and he’d let you know if you were on it. But the person who is organizing the teams told me which team I was on already. I will be #44 on the DT team. We get our unis this weekend at the team pizza party.

by Xeifrank on Jan 5, 2012 12:48 PM PST up reply actions  

your last two lines = genius

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 5, 2012 12:50 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

If MSTI

produces a team that would be something

by bhsportsguy on Jan 5, 2012 12:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I sent everyone who had not paid an email from the roster provided by left field.
So either:
1. You did not register
2. You already paid, if so I’d need your real name to cross check

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jan 5, 2012 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Do we get uniforms and a Pizza party too?

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 5, 2012 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I know I’m not on the tbla team.

by court168627 on Jan 5, 2012 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh, sorry, thought you were complaining you had not been notified if you made the TBLA team.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jan 5, 2012 1:01 PM PST up reply actions  

When’s practice coach?

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 5, 2012 1:01 PM PST up reply actions  

David Young is supposed to be in charge of organizing the TBLA team.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jan 5, 2012 1:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree...

just as delusional as the angel fans who thought they would get Puhols?
The team would be worth more WITH him…do you disagree? How can McCourt get the largest net on the sale? sign Fielder!

"rudeness is the weak man's imitation of strength"...Eric Hoffer

by BaldBilly on Jan 5, 2012 1:10 PM PST up reply actions  

yes, I disagree

your roster has little or nothing to do with the value of the entity

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 5, 2012 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

We have as good a shot as signing Prince as you do at becoming hairybilly

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jan 5, 2012 1:12 PM PST up reply actions  

get Sy Sperling on the phone! We gotta a chance at Fielder

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 5, 2012 1:12 PM PST up reply actions  

That said if I was Prince I would simply sign a one year deal with the Brewers, try again to make the World Series and then put myself on the market next winter when I’d be the man about town.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jan 5, 2012 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

That would work great if they didn’t have to pay K-Rod 15 million next year.

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by regfairfield on Jan 5, 2012 1:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Sometimes, arbitration hurts

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jan 5, 2012 1:14 PM PST up reply actions  

that's not ganna happen

can’t afford a weave

"rudeness is the weak man's imitation of strength"...Eric Hoffer

by BaldBilly on Jan 5, 2012 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

I have to assume that Frank has seriously considered going for Fielder and for some reason it is not in HIS best financial interest regarding the sale to sign him.

by delias man on Jan 5, 2012 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

way more delusional

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Jan 5, 2012 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Albert Pujols is more than a baseball player tho

by NotJoeTorre on Jan 5, 2012 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

he is an abstract concept

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 5, 2012 1:18 PM PST up reply actions  

my keyboard is bitchy right now

and I forgot where I was going with that

by NotJoeTorre on Jan 5, 2012 1:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Always look on the bright side of...

on the bright side there is still a lot of room for improvement left on this team. Name me one bad long-term contract that we have. Ok, name me two! And by two, I mean four.

by Xeifrank on Jan 5, 2012 12:37 PM PST up reply actions  

(Groucho rolls in grave)

Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent.

by latenite on Jan 5, 2012 12:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Dam, we need a Quick restaurant in the US…. They have a black darth vader burger to celebrate the upcoming Phantom Menace 3D movie. I want a black burger!

by uschris0304 on Jan 5, 2012 12:38 PM PST reply actions  

Open flame and the Maillard effect should satisfy this

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 5, 2012 12:52 PM PST up reply actions  

nolander will like this
evansilva
#Texans > #Bengals in every area except quarterback, & unconvinced that margin is significant. CIN doesn’t match up well, either. Like HOU.

by silverwidow on Jan 5, 2012 1:02 PM PST reply actions  

well its pretty much true

their secondary is terrible, we have the better running game, and Dalton is also a rookie. Plus ANDRE JOHNSON.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Jan 5, 2012 1:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Why do people even talk about teams that are not going to, nor winning the SB? thats all that matters at this point anyways…. whom ever wins, congrats, you get to lose next week, good for you.

by uschris0304 on Jan 5, 2012 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I was just messing around, sort of, but I’d take a Raider playoff berth right now even with Steelers beating our ass…. but oh well.

by uschris0304 on Jan 5, 2012 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

The whole point of NFL football is gambling.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Jan 5, 2012 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

money and violence are sexy

you have all three and that is the holy trinity of the american appetite

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 5, 2012 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

/talks about the dodgers

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by regfairfield on Jan 5, 2012 1:10 PM PST up reply actions  

you have not yet witnessed

the firepower of this fully ARMED and OPERATIONAL battle station

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Jan 5, 2012 1:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Gary Busey, fresh off of being on Celebrity Wife Swap, is doing crazy commercials for a local Kia dealer.

by fbihop on Jan 5, 2012 1:15 PM PST reply actions  

Gary Busey’s fiance was a little sister in my Fraternity and the girl friend of a very good buddy

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 5, 2012 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

So I went to see my financial planner today...

…and mentioned that we might make it out to see the Dodgers this year (wife has a conference in Anaheim). Financial planner replies, “well, you shouldn’t have any trouble getting tickets.”
Pain in gut.
“Well, we are getting new owners,” I finally replied.
“Yeah, Joe Torre, right? Or else he wouldn’t have quit MLB.”

"It takes a special fan to root for a last place moribund bankrupt franchise."

by Little Blue Bicycle on Jan 5, 2012 1:37 PM PST reply actions  

your financial planner is sweet

holds down a job and knows what is going on with the Dodgers

by Hollywood Joe on Jan 5, 2012 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Given that we live in Alabama, I was pretty impressed.

"It takes a special fan to root for a last place moribund bankrupt franchise."

by Little Blue Bicycle on Jan 5, 2012 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

its never any trouble getting Dodger tickets anyways, no matter what.

by uschris0304 on Jan 5, 2012 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

if you have at least $250k to invest, I have a very trustworthy person I could introduce you to.

by G.Scott on Jan 5, 2012 2:55 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

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