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2012 NL West Offseason Review: Los Angeles Dodgers

After a thorough review of the offseason moves of the other four teams in the National League West, we turn our investigation inward, looking at our very own Los Angeles Dodgers.

In case you missed the rest of the NL West, here are offseason reviews of Arizona, San Francisco, Colorado, and San Diego.

Five Questions

Los Angeles Dodgers
2011 Record: 82-79
Division Finish:
Third place, 11½ GB
2012 Opening Day: Apr 5 at Petco Park in San Diego
2012 Home Opener: Apr 10 vs. Pittsburgh
Other SB Nation coverage: SB Nation Los Angeles

1) Did the season-ending ACL injury to Victor Martinez of the Detroit Tigers cost the Dodgers Prince Fielder?

Yes.

2) If the Dodgers had all this money to sign Prince Fielder, shouldn't they have at least made a formal offer to Hiroki Kuroda, who signed for one year, $10 million with the New York Yankees?

Yes.

3) Will Clayton Kershaw in 2012 become the second Dodgers pitcher ever to win back-to-back Cy Young Awards, joining Sandy Koufax?

Yes.

4) Will Dee Gordon steal at least 60 bases for the Dodgers in 2012?

Yes.

5) Did you mail in this final question and answer session of the week?

Yes.

Dodgers Trades, Etc. This Winter
Team Traded Acquired
Rockies Jamie Hoffmann of (claimed by Colorado)
Orioles Dana Eveland lhp Jarret Martin lhp
Tyler Henson of

Eveland was arbitration eligible and not in the plans for the Dodgers' starting rotation in 2012, so he was shipped off to Baltimore for two players ranked by our own Brandon Lennox as the No. 59 and No. 77 prospects in the Dodgers' system.

Dodgers Contracts Signed This Winter
Pos Player Type Total Contract 2012 Salary
OF Matt Kemp Arb 8-year, $160m $10,000,000
SP Clayton Kershaw Arb 2-year, $19m $6,000,000
SP Aaron Harang FA 2-year, $12m + option $3,000,000
OF Andre Ethier Arb 1-year, $10.95m $10,950,000
SP Chris Capuano FA 2-year, $10m + option $3,000,000
2B Mark Ellis FA 2-year, $8.75m + option $2,500,000
1B James Loney Arb 1-year, $6.375m $6,375,000
IF/OF Jerry Hairston, Jr. FA 2-year, $6m $2,250,000
OF/1B Juan Rivera FA 1-year, $4.5m + option $4,000,000
OF Tony Gwynn, Jr. Arb 2-year, $2m $850,000
RP Todd Coffey FA 1-year, $1.3m + option $1,000,000
RP Mike MacDougal FA 1-year, $1m + option $650,000
C Matt Treanor FA 1-year, $1m + option $850,000
IF Adam Kennedy FA 1-year, $800k $800,000

Matt Kemp signed the largest contract in National League history. That feels good just saying that out loud.

Star-divide

Dodgers Players Lost
Pos Player New Team
SP Hiroki Kuroda Yankees
IF Jamey Carroll Twins
C Rod Barajas Pirates
3B Casey Blake Rockies
RP Jonathan Broxton Royals
RP Hong-Chih Kuo Mariners
P Vicente Padilla Red Sox*
*Minor league deal

Here's my guess as to the Dodgers' 25-man roster:

2012 Dodgers Under Contract
Pos Player 2012 Age* 2012 Salary
C A.J. Ellis 31 team control
1B James Loney 28 $6,375,000
2B Mark Ellis 35 $2,500,000
3B Juan Uribe 33 $8,000,000
SS Dee Gordon 24 team control
LF Juan Rivera 33 $4,000,000
CF Matt Kemp 27 $10,000,000
RF Andre Ethier 30 $10,950,000
OF Tony Gwynn, Jr. 29 $850,000
IF/OF Jerry Hairston, Jr. 36 $2,250,000
IF Adam Kennedy 36 $800,000
3B/1B Josh Fields 29 $500,000^
C Matt Treanor 36 $850,000
SP Clayton Kershaw 24 $6,000,000
SP Chad Billingsley 27 $9,000,000
SP Ted Lilly 36 $12,000,000
SP Chris Capuano 33 $3,000,000
SP Aaron Harang 34 $3,000,000
CL Javy Guerra 26 team control
RHP Kenley Jansen 24 team control
RHP Matt Guerrier 33 $4,750,000
RHP Todd Coffey 31 $1,000,000
RHP Mike MacDougal 35 $650,000
LHP Scott Elbert 26 team control
RHP Blake Hawksworth 29 team control
Totals (19 players)
$86,475,000
*Age as of June 30, 2012
^Minor league deal; estimated

I do think Jerry Sands has a legitimate chance to make the opening day roster, and if he does it would be as the primary left fielder, as the club wants him to play every day. However, for that same reason I believe Sands will ultimately begin the season in Triple A Albuquerque unless he absolutely dominates during spring training.

The Dodgers do need power of the bench, which is why I picked Fields to make the opening day roster, but I could see Trent Oeltjen ending up with that final bench spot too. But the players haven't even reported to spring training yet; there will be plenty of time for this battle to play itself out.

Barring injury, there is only one bullpen spot open, with the out-of-options Blake Hawksworth fighting it out with Josh Lindblom and several non-roster invitees.

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Keith Law on Joc

Outfielder Joc Pederson has gotten significantly stronger since high school and projects to hit for average and power between his excellent bat speed and sound swing. He’s fast enough for center but the bat should profile in a corner if he has to move.

by BFDC on Feb 10, 2012 6:25 AM PST reply actions  

hopefully his second go around with the Loons

Goes better than the first. I think it will

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 10, 2012 7:11 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Zen master says

we’ll see

You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.

by G.Scott on Feb 10, 2012 8:30 AM PST via Android app up reply actions  

center?

kinda blocked isnt he? good problem to have I guess. bless u matt.

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Feb 10, 2012 8:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Hopefully Pederson and Baldwin can bring a 2nd/3rd baseman when we need it.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Feb 10, 2012 8:52 AM PST up reply actions  

“could play center” is a statement of skill, not of future availability. Kemp will be a corner OF by the end of that contract, probably by 2015 when we sign McCutchen (☺) but Kemp being here that long does mean that all those fancy CF prospects we have have to be able to hit like corner OF guys to be able to make it.

You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.

by G.Scott on Feb 10, 2012 9:00 AM PST up reply actions  

or

we could trade them

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena

by Maddz on Feb 10, 2012 9:01 AM PST up reply actions  

or they do nothing as they move up the ladder and it all becomes moot. Counting on Pioneer league hitters seems so premature.

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by meercatjohn on Feb 10, 2012 9:03 AM PST up reply actions  

but then after they move up, traded.

You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.

by G.Scott on Feb 10, 2012 9:14 AM PST up reply actions  

I agree, Kemp’s body type might require a move to the corners sooner than later

by Michael White on Feb 10, 2012 9:02 AM PST up reply actions  

yeah, it’s not a question of if, but when.

You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.

by G.Scott on Feb 10, 2012 9:14 AM PST up reply actions  

You mean that “CF” isn’t stamped on their foreheads? That’s a relief.

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Feb 10, 2012 10:21 AM PST up reply actions  

just sayin

You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.

by G.Scott on Feb 10, 2012 10:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Then we should sign the Cuban guy with our leftover Fielder money.

by kinbote on Feb 10, 2012 10:33 AM PST up reply actions  

He said he was out of the bidding :)

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Feb 10, 2012 10:34 AM PST up reply actions  

I lol'd

At the 5 questions

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 10, 2012 6:48 AM PST via iPhone app reply actions  

Seconded.

I'd like a Dodger Dog, please.

by DodgerofTrolleys on Feb 10, 2012 9:03 AM PST up reply actions  

Matt Kemp: Pee Wee Herman got nothin on me

It's gettin' so a businessman can't expect no return from a fixed fight. Now, if you can't trust a fix, what can you trust?

by mleadman on Feb 10, 2012 7:33 AM PST reply actions  

And you don’t want Pee Wee Herman to get anything on you. Especially in a theater.

It's gettin' so a businessman can't expect no return from a fixed fight. Now, if you can't trust a fix, what can you trust?

by mleadman on Feb 10, 2012 7:34 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I’m reduced to being my own straight man

It's gettin' so a businessman can't expect no return from a fixed fight. Now, if you can't trust a fix, what can you trust?

by mleadman on Feb 10, 2012 7:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Your up early for the West Coast

by Lex in Brooklyn on Feb 10, 2012 7:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Work emails start at 6:30

It's gettin' so a businessman can't expect no return from a fixed fight. Now, if you can't trust a fix, what can you trust?

by mleadman on Feb 10, 2012 7:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Just another day at the office

by Michael White on Feb 10, 2012 7:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Sorry. I was otherwise engaged. I’ll try to be your Bud Abbott next time.

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Feb 10, 2012 10:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Is this a dick joke or an exploding watermelon joke?

by kinbote on Feb 10, 2012 8:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Pee Wee

was arrested for masturbating in an adult theater a few years back

It's gettin' so a businessman can't expect no return from a fixed fight. Now, if you can't trust a fix, what can you trust?

by mleadman on Feb 10, 2012 9:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Q: What is Paul Rubin's favorite teams?

A: The Expos and the Yanks…………………………..

by Grimjack on Feb 10, 2012 5:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Matt Kemp: Dodger Stadium is my playhouse.

by KD1 on Feb 10, 2012 9:37 AM PST up reply actions  

When do pitchers and catchers report?

by Michael White on Feb 10, 2012 7:39 AM PST reply actions  

Tuesday, February 21 to Camelback

by Eric Stephen on Feb 10, 2012 7:41 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Saw a tweet about the first Cardinals truck of baseball gear going down to Florida.

This makes me excited.

by Michael White on Feb 10, 2012 7:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Makes me wish

they did spring training in Arizona

It's gettin' so a businessman can't expect no return from a fixed fight. Now, if you can't trust a fix, what can you trust?

by mleadman on Feb 10, 2012 7:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Pirates talking to the Yankees about trading for AJ Burnett.

by fbihop on Feb 10, 2012 7:56 AM PST reply actions  

don't help the yankees, pirates!

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by underdog on Feb 10, 2012 7:57 AM PST up reply actions  

All it will take is McCutcheon

It's gettin' so a businessman can't expect no return from a fixed fight. Now, if you can't trust a fix, what can you trust?

by mleadman on Feb 10, 2012 8:03 AM PST up reply actions  

Dodgers top prospects in review, on MLB.com

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120205&content_id=26582626&vkey=news_la&c_id=la&partnerId=rss_la

I’m getting more and more excited about Joc, I have to say…

And Juan Rodriguez gets a mention, too:

“He’s got sleeper written all over him,” he said. “We tightened up his delivery and he’s throwing 100 mph, and it’s swing-and-miss 100. It’s not put-it-in-play 100. He’s not as tall as Kenley Jansen, but he’s a big body guy. Kenley has pure arm swing; this guy is just really loose.”

Granted this is mostly Watson’s POV so grain of salt, etc. But still, cool to hear.

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by underdog on Feb 10, 2012 8:27 AM PST reply actions  

smells like…victory.

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by G.Scott on Feb 10, 2012 8:29 AM PST via Android app up reply actions  

I think we are all excited about Scrap Metal.

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by meercatjohn on Feb 10, 2012 8:29 AM PST up reply actions  

is that his new nickname?

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by underdog on Feb 10, 2012 8:30 AM PST up reply actions  

Has been his nickname here since we acquired him.

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by meercatjohn on Feb 10, 2012 8:31 AM PST up reply actions  

weird, I don't remember noticing it before.

Okay, then. Better than “Mr.” (Bob Newhart Show reference) or “Wolfgang” (German director reference). Or “The Pride of Palo Alto” as Vin Scully will one day say.

Btw, looky what I found:
https://twitter.com/youngjoc650

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by underdog on Feb 10, 2012 8:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Looks like Gary, Eric and MSTI are already following him

Hm, is Gary following this guy too: https://twitter.com/okoyea23

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by underdog on Feb 10, 2012 8:39 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m a visionary.

You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.

by G.Scott on Feb 10, 2012 8:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Not enough to follow your boy OK though! ;)

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by underdog on Feb 10, 2012 9:02 AM PST up reply actions  

Because only Phil actually uses it?


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 10, 2012 5:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Joc just has to prove he can hit in a full season league.

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by meercatjohn on Feb 10, 2012 8:30 AM PST up reply actions  

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/prospects/watch/y2012/#list=lad

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Feb 10, 2012 8:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Cool, my fav Sanchez makes number six

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by meercatjohn on Feb 10, 2012 8:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Pitching Pitching Pitching

Eight of the first nine are pitchers
Three starters for sure in Lee, Webster, Sanchez
Four maybes in Eovaldi, Reed, Withrow, Martin
One Reliever for sure in Tolleson

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Feb 10, 2012 8:38 AM PST up reply actions  

As much as I wish we had more legit position prospects, it sure is nice to have a good crop of interesting arms.

by OB12 on Feb 10, 2012 8:40 AM PST up reply actions  

For Furcal and Trayvon we got our 11 – 13th prospects based on MLB.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Feb 10, 2012 8:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Love the Alex Santana photo

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Feb 10, 2012 8:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Ineed, Fed and Castle are intriguing.

by OB12 on Feb 10, 2012 8:45 AM PST up reply actions  

If Fed’s defense is really that good AND if his bat is actually progressing . . .

by kinbote on Feb 10, 2012 8:46 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m still looking forward to a Fed/Ellis combo this summer. Defense should be above average and offense hopefully won’t be terrible.

by OB12 on Feb 10, 2012 8:49 AM PST up reply actions  

In FidEls We Trust

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by G.Scott on Feb 10, 2012 8:55 AM PST up reply actions  

You mean

Sempre FidElis!


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 10, 2012 5:20 PM PST up reply actions  

typo

Semper


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 10, 2012 5:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Both those trades are looking good right now. Trayvon it appears we traded high on, and Castle is at least a possibility.

by kinbote on Feb 10, 2012 8:45 AM PST up reply actions  

Trayvon will still be a top Five prospect in the Mariner system

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by meercatjohn on Feb 10, 2012 8:46 AM PST up reply actions  

They have a good system and he won’t even sniff the top ten.

by kinbote on Feb 10, 2012 8:48 AM PST up reply actions  

HQ has him 4th a head of Franklin. They are bullish then most but not top 10 seems quite a stretch. Of course that was before Montero. Maybe 7th / 8th. Easy top 10.

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by meercatjohn on Feb 10, 2012 8:55 AM PST up reply actions  

They can win the most Baseball HQ Championships Won title. Trayvon’s going nowhere

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by G.Scott on Feb 10, 2012 8:56 AM PST up reply actions  

I checked Fangraphs and Baseball America.

by kinbote on Feb 10, 2012 9:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Seems like the four maybes (perhaps not Martin) will be MLB relievers at worst.

by BFDC on Feb 10, 2012 8:56 AM PST up reply actions  

I’ve always found Reed and Tolleson interesting.

I'd like a Dodger Dog, please.

by DodgerofTrolleys on Feb 10, 2012 9:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Cause Reed has been around so long

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Feb 10, 2012 9:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Always

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Feb 10, 2012 9:10 AM PST up reply actions  

Well okay

Actually since I started paying attention to our prospects more, which was this last year.

I'd like a Dodger Dog, please.

by DodgerofTrolleys on Feb 10, 2012 9:12 AM PST up reply actions  

I still feel really strongly that Chris Reed has the stuff and mechanics to become a great major league pitcher. He may at some point transition back into relief, but it won’t be because he has to be a reliever.

You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.

by G.Scott on Feb 10, 2012 9:16 AM PST up reply actions  

I agree with you completely.

I'd like a Dodger Dog, please.

by DodgerofTrolleys on Feb 10, 2012 9:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Overrated/Underated

Overrated: Ethan Martin
Underrated: Silverio

by silverwidow on Feb 10, 2012 9:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Ethan Martin is pretty well rated.

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by G.Scott on Feb 10, 2012 9:25 AM PST up reply actions  

I don’t buy that he’s the best reliever in the system. And that’s his realistic role.

by silverwidow on Feb 10, 2012 9:28 AM PST up reply actions  

“great stuff, can’t get through the lineup twice” seems pretty accurate.

You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.

by G.Scott on Feb 10, 2012 9:30 AM PST up reply actions  

I don’t know what he’s rated these days, but I’m very bearish

by Michael White on Feb 10, 2012 9:28 AM PST up reply actions  

But is he Fred Rated?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pM7yGRMjbrI

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by underdog on Feb 10, 2012 9:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Martin is rated pretty low by most.

MLB.com’s prospect lists always suck.

@TElciram

by Taylor Maricle on Feb 10, 2012 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

That's really cool

Especially since Trayvon can’t not strike out in the majors, lol.

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by Ivdown on Feb 10, 2012 8:45 AM PST up reply actions  

In case there was any concern about how average Dodger fans feel about our system, in the poll, 60% say ZLee is the top prospect, 35% say Eovaldi and only 1% picked Webby.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Feb 10, 2012 9:02 AM PST up reply actions  

I always thought the TBLA motto was “we don’t give a fuck what the average Dodger fan thinks”

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by meercatjohn on Feb 10, 2012 9:04 AM PST up reply actions  

Hence the disclaimer.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Feb 10, 2012 9:04 AM PST up reply actions  

the average Dodger fan thinks xfip is the new Honda compact car

by Josie Becker on Feb 10, 2012 9:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Everybody knows it’s a Hyundai!

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Feb 10, 2012 10:27 AM PST up reply actions  

I hope Xeifrank never asks if the Clippers are the best team in the West.

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by meercatjohn on Feb 10, 2012 8:29 AM PST reply actions  

Don’t think I will, for a while at least.

by Xeifrank on Feb 10, 2012 8:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Even if you ever think it, don’t write it. Why don’t you try jinxing the Thunder this week?

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by meercatjohn on Feb 10, 2012 8:32 AM PST up reply actions  

They did just lose to the Kings

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by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 10, 2012 8:38 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Jacks N Joe – freakin good pancakes

by Julio Nievas on Feb 10, 2012 8:32 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

Are they Shoeless?

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by G.Scott on Feb 10, 2012 8:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Gary

About COD: Cool, I’ve only seen you play black ops. I’d actually be cool playing that too actually. I think im getting back into a COD mood rather than black ops.

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by Ivdown on Feb 10, 2012 8:33 AM PST reply actions  

cod

its funny how everyone HATED treyarch games before black ops and now it seems like alot of the people I know prefer black ops to mw3 by a wide margin..

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Feb 10, 2012 8:45 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm conflicted

I liked Black OPS, but knew MW2 and MW were both better, but now MW3 didn’t show me a ton (except single player was AMAZING) with their online.

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by Ivdown on Feb 10, 2012 8:47 AM PST up reply actions  

mw mp

I never fell for it because it always seemed like it was rich get richer and was a very hard to have fun in matches were dudes were going like 75-1 and dropping nukes on everyone. Black ops seemed way more balanced.

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Feb 10, 2012 8:49 AM PST up reply actions  

As in

You loved that one the most or you thought that one killed the series?

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by Ivdown on Feb 10, 2012 9:29 AM PST up reply actions  

I still liked the single player, but the multiplayer was such a dissapointment

I just moved on. Didn’t even bother with Black Ops multiplayer. MW1 is in my top 2 for this entire generation though, so its a hard standard to live up to. Still want to play MW3 for single player, but I’m waiting till it goes on sale in a year or so(screw you activision). I would be more interested if they wheren’t just shoving the same game out there every darn year.

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by nolander on Feb 10, 2012 9:31 AM PST up reply actions  

I get you. I’m not getting the next COD most likely, i’ve only played 17 hours of MW3, when I have 10 days on MW2, 2 days on black ops, and 8 days on COD 4.

As far as the single player though, if there are any blockbusters left you should try renting it just for that; the single player on MW3 was top 3 of any game I’ve ever played.

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by Ivdown on Feb 10, 2012 9:34 AM PST up reply actions  

I started the series on PC

and I will end it on PC. If I can get a game on PC I choose it over consoles every time. Its as much about future compatibility then anything else.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Feb 10, 2012 9:37 AM PST up reply actions  

I got Black Ops and MW3 for Christmas, and I don’t think I’ve even taken MW3 out of the packaging.

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by G.Scott on Feb 10, 2012 8:58 AM PST up reply actions  

im a bf3 fan

its so much more fun if you ask me. way more team oriented. I was 1st place on a game I played last night and only went 5-5 in terms of k/d.

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Feb 10, 2012 9:04 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh absolutely

I love Battlefield 3, such a fun game. If I could take the game play from Modern Warfare 3 and the stuff you can do and the maps from Battlefield 3 i’d be in game heaven.

Yeah, its all about winning in battlefield, not K/D ratio, though I still want a good one, haha. Im the type of guy who will try and destroy tanks and junk even though I’ll get killed 3 times while doing it.

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by Ivdown on Feb 10, 2012 9:24 AM PST up reply actions  

BF is more fun when you’re playing with friends because its much moer team based. COD is always fun even if you’re playing on your own

by DannyDodger on Feb 10, 2012 10:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah I know what you mean

My cousin and I play and it’s way more fun when it’s him and I rather than just me, or because the servers are just as messed up as CODs when it’s me VS him.

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by Ivdown on Feb 10, 2012 10:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Question

If Fields has a serious shot at making the team, does he also have a legitimate shot at unseating Uribe at 3b?

by kinbote on Feb 10, 2012 8:36 AM PST reply actions  

I doubt it, I’d think Hairston would play 3rd if Uribe gets hurt. I don’t think Fields has a shot at making the team. He’s depth insurance. He might make the team but only if injuries take place. JMO

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by meercatjohn on Feb 10, 2012 8:39 AM PST up reply actions  

We’re going to need a bigger bat. /dreyfuss

by kinbote on Feb 10, 2012 8:43 AM PST up reply actions  

btw

Finally got Eric’s Murray St./present joke over the sports page this morning. Time release humor ftw.

by kinbote on Feb 10, 2012 8:38 AM PST reply actions  

A joke aneurysm if you will

by Eric Stephen on Feb 10, 2012 8:41 AM PST up reply actions  

AA rotation

Anyone have ideas on who will be in that rotation? I’d be more interested to see if anyone thinks one of the LoA starters (Lee/Gould/Sanchez) would get a shot early on at AA rather than HiA.

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by Ivdown on Feb 10, 2012 8:44 AM PST reply actions  

You answered this question yesterday! S’matter, you forgot what you wrote? :)

by kinbote on Feb 10, 2012 8:46 AM PST up reply actions  

I don’t see any of the Loons skipping the Cal League this year.
Doubt they would make Withrow repeat AA again but they might.
For sure in AA:
Redding
Webster
Martin
MaGill
Aaron Miller

is a rough guess

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by meercatjohn on Feb 10, 2012 8:51 AM PST up reply actions  

I completely forgot about Miller

Yesterday I had:

Withrow
Webster
E Martin (if you think none of the LoA guys will make it)
Redding
Magill

So you think Withrow goes to AAA?

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by Ivdown on Feb 10, 2012 9:26 AM PST up reply actions  

He’s been in AA 2 1/2 years I guess he could go for three.

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by meercatjohn on Feb 10, 2012 11:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Sounds like they have Lee ticketed for AA at some point, wouldn’t surprised if he is there by June if he starts off well.

by OB12 on Feb 10, 2012 8:56 AM PST up reply actions  

I would hope that Lee, Gould, and Sanchez push the issue by having success in the Cal League

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by meercatjohn on Feb 10, 2012 9:01 AM PST up reply actions  

Happy Birthday Brandon!

Maybe I can buy you a beer during ST

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by Maddz on Feb 10, 2012 8:59 AM PST reply actions  

thanks!

saw the dates you are going. since I can’t go the weekend of the 17th maybe i’ll go the weekend before…although I’m not sure when the minor league games start…probably not that early

by Brandon Lennox on Feb 10, 2012 9:27 AM PST up reply actions  

they started the 4th weekend of march last year. with minor leaguers reporting about the 25th

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by G.Scott on Feb 10, 2012 9:36 AM PST up reply actions  

wow I forgot how late it was that they reported

i know some of the better prospects will be there earlier, but there probably won’t be much going on in terms of the minor league side then if I came the weekend of March 10th

by Brandon Lennox on Feb 10, 2012 9:41 AM PST up reply actions  

No, they started around the 4th weekend of February last year – Feb. 26 – (you must have meant that) with major league games starting March 31. Everything this year seems is a good week or more later, wit ST games starting March 5 (for Dodgers) and MLB games April 5.

by berkowit28 on Feb 10, 2012 10:22 AM PST up reply actions  

he asked about the minor leaguers

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by G.Scott on Feb 10, 2012 10:23 AM PST up reply actions  

For reference

Last year, Dodgers pitchers and catchers reported to big league camp at Camelback Ranch on February 16 and the first P&C workout was February 17.

The reporting date for minor league pitchers and catchers at CBR was March 3, with their first workout on March 5.

First major league spring training game was February 26, and the first minor league game was March 18.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 10, 2012 10:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Thanks, I thought I had it a little late in my head.

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by G.Scott on Feb 10, 2012 10:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Spring Training starts tomorrow! (Not for the Dodgers, but still… BASEBALL!)

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by Nolij on Feb 10, 2012 9:08 AM PST reply actions  

WOOT!!!

I'd like a Dodger Dog, please.

by DodgerofTrolleys on Feb 10, 2012 9:12 AM PST up reply actions  

The Reds

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by G.Scott on Feb 10, 2012 9:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Mariners pitchers and catchers are reporting tomorrow, because they open their regular season early against the A’s in Japan. The A’s, however, are not reporting earlier; their P&Cs are reporting next Saturday, along with 8 other teams.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 10, 2012 10:06 AM PST up reply actions  

Too bad Matsui isn’t with Oakland anymore [at least not yet]. Could’ve been Ichiro/Matsui love fest.

by kinbote on Feb 10, 2012 10:50 AM PST up reply actions  

I went to Sports Chalet to look at bats. It has been 10 years since I looked at new bats. Damn they be pretty and expensive. Did not know they were even making slow pitch wood bats. I longingly picked up a couple but $70 for a bat that could break just couldn’t be justified.

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by meercatjohn on Feb 10, 2012 9:09 AM PST reply actions  

The good metal bats these days are like $250.

by BFDC on Feb 10, 2012 9:11 AM PST up reply actions  

Yep, we talked about it yesterday. 199 – 250 for the names I was looking at.

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by meercatjohn on Feb 10, 2012 9:13 AM PST up reply actions  

I am going to wear eye black bryce harper style

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by Maddz on Feb 10, 2012 9:13 AM PST up reply actions  

weather report went from sunny to 20% chance of rain.

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by meercatjohn on Feb 10, 2012 9:16 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm sure this is a joke, but omg don't!

There’s a guy in one of my softball leagues who does that, he’s the biggest douche around. We play his team Sunday, we better kick their asses

by Billyum on Feb 10, 2012 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

definitely not a joke

it’s definitely going to happen

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by Maddz on Feb 10, 2012 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

You must play at Wilson Park?

by ishXdavid on Feb 10, 2012 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Then you gotta send it in and get it rolled!

by BFDC on Feb 10, 2012 9:14 AM PST up reply actions  

but the wood bats were so much more aesthetically pleasing

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by meercatjohn on Feb 10, 2012 9:14 AM PST up reply actions  

ha ha

The first one opened in La Cresenta, just north of Glendale when I lived there. I’m always intrigued by the Mom and Pops who expand successfully and those who do not.

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by meercatjohn on Feb 10, 2012 9:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Nah, opening a fast food place is nothing compared to full blown sporting good store with Scuba Pool. That takes some capital.

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by meercatjohn on Feb 10, 2012 9:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Ooh

Wienerschnitzel are tasty.

I'd like a Dodger Dog, please.

by DodgerofTrolleys on Feb 10, 2012 9:22 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

anything mentioning them gets a rec from me

I could go for some at lunch today, mmmm

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by Ivdown on Feb 10, 2012 9:28 AM PST up reply actions  

ewww?

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by Maddz on Feb 10, 2012 9:38 AM PST up reply actions  

You people on your high horses

Eat in the slums with me one day! lol

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by Ivdown on Feb 10, 2012 9:41 AM PST up reply actions  

my idea of slums is radically different than yours

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by Maddz on Feb 10, 2012 9:44 AM PST up reply actions  

it's not about slums

it’s about a smaller portion of what you eat being what you ordered and a larger percentage being preservatives and synthetics.

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by G.Scott on Feb 10, 2012 9:46 AM PST up reply actions  

he’s not talking about flying to Austria.

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by G.Scott on Feb 10, 2012 9:52 AM PST up reply actions  

I know. I just haven’t had Wienerschnitzel here.

by DodgerofTrolleys on Feb 10, 2012 9:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Wiener schnitzel is flattened breaded veal or pork. Der Wienerschnitzel serves weird hot dogs. You are comparing apples to Apple computers.

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by Nolij on Feb 10, 2012 10:11 AM PST up reply actions  

like lemmy said

I don’t wanna live forever

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Feb 10, 2012 9:53 AM PST up reply actions  

I presume when someone says ewww they think it's gross and don't like how it tastes

not really for the fat content.

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by Ivdown on Feb 10, 2012 10:12 AM PST up reply actions  

nah, the chili dogs tastes fucking amazing.

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by G.Scott on Feb 10, 2012 10:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Their corn dogs are soooooo good

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by Ivdown on Feb 10, 2012 10:28 AM PST up reply actions  

will the small wonder theme song get that out of your head?

by delias man on Feb 10, 2012 9:31 AM PST up reply actions  

I was too young for that show. I remember the reruns, but I don’t know the theme song off the top of my head

by Michael White on Feb 10, 2012 9:32 AM PST up reply actions  

I was younger then you and I watched it

I still am, but I was

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by nolander on Feb 10, 2012 9:33 AM PST up reply actions  

She’s fantastic.
Made of plastic…

by Eric Stephen on Feb 10, 2012 10:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Vicki and Evie from Out of this World were early crushes of mine.

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by Nolij on Feb 10, 2012 10:12 AM PST up reply actions  

If you could stop time you could really do some depraved shit to people.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 10, 2012 10:19 AM PST up reply actions  

let me hold you

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by Maddz on Feb 10, 2012 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t know how Zack Morris didn’t abuse his time-stopping abilities.

by ishXdavid on Feb 10, 2012 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

Out of this World was a great show.

Evie…

by EMDarrow on Feb 10, 2012 5:00 PM PST up reply actions  

for the best insurance rates online, go to the general and save some time

by Josie Becker on Feb 10, 2012 9:30 AM PST up reply actions  

no way!

Great minds think alike, so what the hell am I coming up with the same thing as you right now??

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by Ivdown on Feb 10, 2012 9:31 AM PST up reply actions  

the worst

is that goddamn kars for kids jingle they play on 710. so terrible.

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Feb 10, 2012 9:38 AM PST up reply actions  

1-8-7-7 Kars for Kids... K-A-R-S Kars for Kids

I hate the 8-6-6… sixty-six faster… you got the green light because of how annoying it is, but the absolute dregs is… South Coast Toyoooooootaaaaaa because of how cheaply it was produced. If the singers meant to be off-key, then the joke’s on me.

by ishXdavid on Feb 10, 2012 9:41 AM PST up reply actions  

nick can't say-no

Or the dude who is having fake conversations with customers on his personal cell and then he’s like “but im not done with what im saying” and the commericial ends. Soooo dumb.

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by Ivdown on Feb 10, 2012 9:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Congratulations

That is the worst. They play it up here on 680 too.

by DodgerofTrolleys on Feb 10, 2012 9:44 AM PST up reply actions  

I wouldn’t have gotten a lemon?

by Eric Stephen on Feb 10, 2012 10:07 AM PST up reply actions  

This day is becoming more and more frustrating with every jingle.

by Michael White on Feb 10, 2012 10:08 AM PST up reply actions  

7-1-4 Tickets, 7-1-4 Tickets….

by Eric Stephen on Feb 10, 2012 10:09 AM PST up reply actions  

It’s the biggest no brainer in the history of mankind.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 10, 2012 10:10 AM PST up reply actions  

“We’ll beat anyone’s advertised price or your mattress is freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee” is stupid on so many levels.

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by Nolij on Feb 10, 2012 10:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Right.

“Man, that price is too good, I simply can’t match it. Guess I have to give it to you for free then”

by Michael White on Feb 10, 2012 10:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Also, mattress manufacturers call the same mattress by different names for different retailers. So nobody actually sells the same model of mattresses that Sit n Sleep does.

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by Nolij on Feb 10, 2012 10:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Genius

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by meercatjohn on Feb 10, 2012 4:03 PM PST up reply actions  

For the last 10 years

“But I can guarantee this, rates are going up soon”

It's gettin' so a businessman can't expect no return from a fixed fight. Now, if you can't trust a fix, what can you trust?

by mleadman on Feb 10, 2012 3:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Adee dooooooooo

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by Ivdown on Feb 10, 2012 10:15 AM PST up reply actions  

keyes keyes keyes, keyes on van nuys

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by G.Scott on Feb 10, 2012 10:16 AM PST up reply actions  

I sang the “Got it at Galpin” jingle at G, but he didn’t get it because he doesn’t listen to Power

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by Maddz on Feb 10, 2012 2:28 PM PST up reply actions  

the more I hear about that guy the more it makes sense why I like him so much

Power? C’mon….

by Hollywood Joe on Feb 10, 2012 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

My dad has an ASA or whatever approved bat

I’ll try and remember to bring it.

Phil, any idea on the carpooling? Do you want to have me you and Dave carpool?

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by Ivdown on Feb 10, 2012 9:27 AM PST up reply actions  

phil

make bobby sit in the back of the miata

by delias man on Feb 10, 2012 9:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Aw man

The driver and passenger seats are so damn small to begin with!

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by Ivdown on Feb 10, 2012 9:32 AM PST up reply actions  

You can’t put a lunch box in the back of a Miata! Even the trunk is so small you have to put soft sided luggage in it.

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Feb 10, 2012 10:34 AM PST up reply actions  

If no one needs David then it would be easier for him to just drive to the field from his house. I’ll take you but you have to be at my house by 06:30. I’ll email you the address very easy to find.

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by meercatjohn on Feb 10, 2012 11:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Just don’t crash in to Phil’s truck parked on the street.

by Xeifrank on Feb 10, 2012 11:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Nice

I was just at Sports Chalet a couple days ago to get a fungo. Can’t be hitting pregame with a regular bat

by Billyum on Feb 10, 2012 10:55 AM PST up reply actions  

I thought Sports Chalet was dying

closed a few stores and cancelled a big development in La Canada

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by mleadman on Feb 10, 2012 10:57 AM PST up reply actions  

The one in Torrance is doing fine. It’s right across the street from a Sports Authority too

by Billyum on Feb 10, 2012 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Remember Chick's in El Segundo?

I liked it so much better before it changed to Dick’s. The baseball section at Chick’s was 100X better than it is now at Dick’s.

Who the hell names their store “Dick’s” in the 21st century?

by ishXdavid on Feb 10, 2012 11:02 AM PST up reply actions  

That’s too far for me to go for a sporting good store, I never went there when it was Chick’s. Although I’ve been in there once or twice since it has been Dick’s when I’ve been driving down Sepulveda

Sport Chalet has a pretty good glove selection. Cal Pro has nice gloves too.

by Billyum on Feb 10, 2012 11:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Oshman’s used to be my favorite.

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by Nolij on Feb 10, 2012 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

They did that in Pasadena

I so wanted to make a Chicks with Dicks joke

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by mleadman on Feb 10, 2012 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Profar is a dream prospect

link

MiLB.com: You had more walks that strikeouts last season, which has impressed a lot of people, especially considering your age (the youngest player in the South Atlantic League) and experience. How have you worked to became that type of patient hitter?

Profar: That’s something that I always wanted to be to help my team. I was the leadoff hitter, and as the leadoff man, you have to be on base. So you just take pitches and look for something you can drive or hit or something. They throw you balls, you take it, you walk or get a hit-by-pitch. As a leadoff man, I just have to take my pitches and see what happens.

He seems like Hanley with a better attitude.

by silverwidow on Feb 10, 2012 9:39 AM PST reply actions  

So, he’s jamey carroll

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by G.Scott on Feb 10, 2012 9:47 AM PST up reply actions  

no shit

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by G.Scott on Feb 10, 2012 9:52 AM PST up reply actions  

If Jamey Carroll was hittin dingers as one of the youngest players in the league.

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by regfairfield on Feb 10, 2012 10:05 AM PST up reply actions  

wasn’t mentioned in the quote, i did no research.

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by G.Scott on Feb 10, 2012 10:12 AM PST up reply actions  

You’ll be hearing the name a lot. He’s just below Harper and Trout.

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by regfairfield on Feb 10, 2012 10:13 AM PST up reply actions  

i’m all for other teams developing superstars. what’s good for the game is good for my enjoyment of the game.

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by G.Scott on Feb 10, 2012 10:17 AM PST up reply actions  

He's better than Machado?

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by Ivdown on Feb 10, 2012 10:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Up for debate, but yes.

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by regfairfield on Feb 10, 2012 10:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Did better in A ball and he’s 7 months younger.

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by regfairfield on Feb 10, 2012 10:26 AM PST up reply actions  

I remember when this dude was in the Little League World Series. He was one of the few tat you could legitimately see playing in the bigs. Crazy talented kid.

by UCLADodger32 on Feb 10, 2012 10:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Lots of internet rumors

that the new North Korean leader was killed in Beijing after going on a local Beijing radio station demanding that MLB let him buy the Dodgers.

by Xeifrank on Feb 10, 2012 9:41 AM PST reply actions  

The Orioles should send their scouts in immediately.

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by regfairfield on Feb 10, 2012 10:06 AM PST up reply actions  

who do you think took him down?

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by G.Scott on Feb 10, 2012 10:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Chuck Norris

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by Nolij on Feb 10, 2012 10:19 AM PST up reply actions  

(whistles)

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by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 10, 2012 10:19 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

I don't ... get it?

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by underdog on Feb 10, 2012 10:07 AM PST up reply actions  

The first half of his sentence is true. A rumor popped up that Kim Jong Un had been assassinated in Beijing. But the second half is a xeifrank joke. I believe Macciello is the butt of this joke.

by Michael White on Feb 10, 2012 10:08 AM PST up reply actions  

I...see...

Crazy (about the first). He was probably just buying a thousand bootleg DVDs and video games in China.

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by underdog on Feb 10, 2012 10:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Jerry West could be in the Dodgers front office?

I’m assuming this has been discussed already?

by BFDC on Feb 10, 2012 10:02 AM PST reply actions  

Jerry West running the Dodgers makes no sense to me.

by silverwidow on Feb 10, 2012 10:05 AM PST up reply actions  

I hadn’t heard that.

Sure, running a baseball team’s not difficult at all. Can’t miss idea.

by Michael White on Feb 10, 2012 10:06 AM PST up reply actions  

Brilliant. Michael Heisley who instructed his general manager to draft Hasheem Thabeet even though the GM wanted to draft Tyreke Evans.

I feel confident in saying you would hate Heisley way more than you hated Frank.

by Michael White on Feb 10, 2012 10:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Probably. I don’t know why he would even want to buy the Dodgers. He doesn’t even want to own the Grizzlies.

by BFDC on Feb 10, 2012 10:14 AM PST up reply actions  

apples and oranges

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by G.Scott on Feb 10, 2012 10:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Right. He’s rich but doesn’t want to spend on the team (I’ll admit, his past two years suggest that’s changing) and he meddles in basketball affairs he should leave to the GM (like the Thabeet debacle.) And he’s been trying to sell the Grizzlies for years.

by Michael White on Feb 10, 2012 10:17 AM PST up reply actions  

And he's on record as saying local guys should own teams if possible

which makes sense for a Minnesota guy who owns a Memphis team to want to be an LA team.

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by underdog on Feb 10, 2012 10:41 AM PST up reply actions  

It’s incredibly hard.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Feb 10, 2012 10:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Nobody has gone for the layup yet? OK, guess I’ll step up.

TWSS.

by OB12 on Feb 10, 2012 10:35 AM PST up reply actions  

There is a new sponsored post up (below this one)

http://www.truebluela.com/2012/2/10/2789787/ultimate-sports-social-media-job-contest

If you are so inclined to read it, great. We can keep the comments going in here though (unless you have something relevant to the sponsored post you would like to add in that comments section)

by Eric Stephen on Feb 10, 2012 10:34 AM PST reply actions  

I would like to sell/change my screen name to the highest bidder. DoritoGuy has a nice ring to it.

by kinbote on Feb 10, 2012 10:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Kemp

How about Dave Parker 1978 as a comp for peak ceiling?

by silverwidow on Feb 10, 2012 10:37 AM PST reply actions  

Kemp has more power. And more speed. I don’t think he’ll be able to keep his average that high. I’d gladly sacrifice some BA numbers for OBP though.

by kinbote on Feb 10, 2012 10:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Parker stole a lot of bases for a big man. 20 a year about.

by kinbote on Feb 10, 2012 10:41 AM PST up reply actions  

and less cocaine

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by mleadman on Feb 10, 2012 10:51 AM PST up reply actions  

If Kemp can uncork a few of those throws (like the 1979 All-Star Game), hooooo boy.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 10, 2012 10:41 AM PST up reply actions  

How about Winfield 1979 as a comp.

by kinbote on Feb 10, 2012 10:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Robin Yount is really the only guy I can find that hit like Kemp without walking too much.

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by regfairfield on Feb 10, 2012 10:51 AM PST up reply actions  

What is up with Boston/Yankees showing fiscal restraint this offseason? Very strange.

by kinbote on Feb 10, 2012 10:51 AM PST reply actions  

they both needed pitching

and didn’t go for the big names it seems like

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by nolander on Feb 10, 2012 10:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Yankees re-signed CC

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by G.Scott on Feb 10, 2012 10:53 AM PST up reply actions  

that was a unique situation

they didn’t really add any payroll for next year IIRC, just added more years to his current deal.

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by nolander on Feb 10, 2012 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

They did have room to add Kuroda.

Sad face.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 10, 2012 10:55 AM PST up reply actions  

:(

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by nolander on Feb 10, 2012 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

El Capang

I’ll do the thinnin around here BabaNeddie

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by mleadman on Feb 10, 2012 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

They have the chance to get below the luxury tax so they’re gonna take it.

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by regfairfield on Feb 10, 2012 10:52 AM PST up reply actions  

That makes sense. I couldn’t believe when I read Scutaro trade was a salary dump.

by kinbote on Feb 10, 2012 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

What was stranger to me was dealing Lowrie for a relief pitcher and then dumping Scutaro for a relief pitcher. NED was so far a head of the curve.

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by meercatjohn on Feb 10, 2012 11:44 AM PST up reply actions  

red sox owner

Paying a ton of money to his soccer team

/Heyman

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by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 10, 2012 10:54 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Red Sox owner

Trying to finance No No Nanatte.

/1918’d

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by Ivdown on Feb 10, 2012 11:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Cot’s shows the Yankees having 20 players under contract in 2012 for roughly $207 million, including 11 different players making at least $10 million this year.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 10, 2012 10:55 AM PST up reply actions  

without looking

Jeets
Tex
CC
Burnett
Kuroda
Swisher?
Soriano
Rivera
Cano
Arod

by kinbote on Feb 10, 2012 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

I forgot Granderson

by kinbote on Feb 10, 2012 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

I would pay Tex, Cano, Granderson, and ARod more then 10 Million in 2012.

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by meercatjohn on Feb 10, 2012 11:45 AM PST up reply actions  

As in, “I wouldn’t pay the others?”

If so, CC, Swisher and Jeter are also worth that money.

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by G.Scott on Feb 10, 2012 11:50 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m a big fan of Cano. I love his swing. I used to compare his swing with Utley’s; it’s really more Bonds.

by kinbote on Feb 10, 2012 12:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Yankees do have a new owner. Young Steinbrenner may not be the free spender Old Steinbrenner was.

by Michael White on Feb 10, 2012 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I fully expected Darvish to be a Yankee.

by silverwidow on Feb 10, 2012 11:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Makes sense, since he originally signed Ol Hoss radbourn

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Feb 10, 2012 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

I hate that Matt Kemp photo with the hate of a thousand suns

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by meercatjohn on Feb 10, 2012 11:46 AM PST reply actions  

I prefer this one myself

You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.

by G.Scott on Feb 10, 2012 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

yes

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Feb 10, 2012 11:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Or this one

You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.

by G.Scott on Feb 10, 2012 12:03 PM PST up reply actions  

anything that resembles a baseball uniform and not a Dr. DooLittlle impersonation

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by meercatjohn on Feb 10, 2012 12:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes. I wish it would stop appearing here.

by berkowit28 on Feb 10, 2012 11:56 AM PST up reply actions  

The bow tie is OK. It’s the silly suit that is 3 sizes too small which makes him look like he’s outfitted like a 14 year old. The bow tie accentuates that and makes him look even sillier, but would be fine if the suit fit.

by berkowit28 on Feb 10, 2012 12:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Good perspective.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Feb 10, 2012 12:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Anyone want to enlighten me on the DOJ interpretation related to on-line gambling? Been hearing on-line poker could make a return to the US along with other means of gambling.

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by meercatjohn on Feb 10, 2012 12:04 PM PST reply actions  

Some believe

that the current status is that there is an opening for states to conduct lotteries online. Others see it as an opening for states to finance and operate their own online poker but that is yet undetermined. One thing is sure, there is no opening for legal online gambling on sports, that remains the one form specifically outlawed under current U.S. law (though DOJ maintains that the Wire Act prohibits all forms of online gambling).

by bhsportsguy on Feb 10, 2012 12:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I heard that there is an opening for a multi-state compact like the Powerball or Megamillions lotteries, only with online poker.

by fbihop on Feb 10, 2012 12:21 PM PST up reply actions  

thanks

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by meercatjohn on Feb 10, 2012 12:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Are/Were you an online poker player?

by Xeifrank on Feb 10, 2012 12:40 PM PST up reply actions  

No, strictly curious

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by meercatjohn on Feb 10, 2012 12:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Good answer. You never know who works for the IRS here.

by Xeifrank on Feb 10, 2012 12:55 PM PST up reply actions  

BTW

Minor leaguers will probably report by the March 7th and 11th and games will start the week of the 14th.

by bhsportsguy on Feb 10, 2012 12:11 PM PST reply actions  

sweet

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by G.Scott on Feb 10, 2012 12:18 PM PST up reply actions  

J.R. Smith’s Chinese team has been mathematically eliminated from the postseason. He can sign a deal shortly after…. Please JR Smith, will you be my Laker Valentine??

by uschris0304 on Feb 10, 2012 12:21 PM PST reply actions  

Shortly after Feb 15th, but hopefully he lets us know where he is signing before then. If he can, I dont know.

by uschris0304 on Feb 10, 2012 12:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Do you post on SS&R too?

by ishXdavid on Feb 10, 2012 3:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Im not sure, but this morning I couldnt sign in because OpenID server was down it said. So some of you almost lucked out haha…. But I didnt give up, kept trying every so often, and it finally let me in.

by uschris0304 on Feb 10, 2012 12:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Practicing

Just played catch at lunch. Both shoulders hurt, I have the velocity of an 90 year old Moyer and my glove arm can’t make any sudden moves. Dejection, I’m more Charlie Brown then I have ever been.

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by meercatjohn on Feb 10, 2012 12:46 PM PST up reply actions  

but thanks to my wife I will look good, or as good as a short legged, palish, balding meercat can look.

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by meercatjohn on Feb 10, 2012 12:47 PM PST up reply actions  

How many Manny wigs do you think we see tomorrow?

by Xeifrank on Feb 10, 2012 12:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Forgot about mine.

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by meercatjohn on Feb 10, 2012 1:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Busy wrapping stuff up on my last day of work.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 10, 2012 12:56 PM PST up reply actions  

what giddy motherfucker you must be right now

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by meercatjohn on Feb 10, 2012 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s pretty awesome.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 10, 2012 1:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Nothing better

than a last day on the job when you are going to a better one

It's gettin' so a businessman can't expect no return from a fixed fight. Now, if you can't trust a fix, what can you trust?

by mleadman on Feb 10, 2012 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

What's the exit plan?

“F you, F you, F you, you’re cool, F you, F you, and F you. PEACE!”

by ishXdavid on Feb 10, 2012 2:59 PM PST up reply actions  

trying to figure out why I did a stupid thing I did months ago

the life of a software engineer

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by nolander on Feb 10, 2012 12:58 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought not having to fix problems you created is why software engineers switched jobs so often

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by meercatjohn on Feb 10, 2012 1:01 PM PST up reply actions  

the economy has been hard on all of us

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by nolander on Feb 10, 2012 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

catching?

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by nolander on Feb 10, 2012 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Just got back from the driving range on my lunch break.

by ishXdavid on Feb 10, 2012 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Don’t jack up your softball swing. haha.

by Xeifrank on Feb 10, 2012 2:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Seriously, right!

Playing hardball, softball, and golf makes me terrible at all three. However, I’ve noticed that I hit better at the driving range after going to the batting cages first. I’ll see if works in reverse when I hit up the cages again tonight. It was a freaking zoo last night with all the youth baseball leagues starting up.

by ishXdavid on Feb 10, 2012 2:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I never got that. They’re three totally different swings. Don’t compare the three in your head, and they won’t get crosswired

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by G.Scott on Feb 10, 2012 3:06 PM PST up reply actions  

but...

You’re a natural ballplayer! They’re three different swings, but my brain is only strong enough to process one during any prolonged period of time. It’s a total user-fail on my part.

by ishXdavid on Feb 10, 2012 3:10 PM PST up reply actions  

i gotcha.

You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.

by G.Scott on Feb 10, 2012 3:17 PM PST up reply actions  

So if you say to yourself, why did that Royals announcer slip in the word "halo" during that highlght
Victor Rojas
Congrats to Steve Physioc & Rex Hudler for landing in Royals broadcast booth (w Ryan LeFebvre). Both good guys.

by bhsportsguy on Feb 10, 2012 1:25 PM PST reply actions  

Please to note, he did not call them good announcers.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Feb 10, 2012 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

glass houses

cannons etc

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by nolander on Feb 10, 2012 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I still can’t believe we gave Mark Ellis 2 years $8.75 mil. Judged againt that, the Gwynn deal was highway robbery.

by kinbote on Feb 10, 2012 1:26 PM PST reply actions  

And, yes, I know it was all a scam to get a lower 2012 salary in exchange for a higher 2013 payout. Still bothers me.

by kinbote on Feb 10, 2012 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Even in emails you people zing me. Just wait till tomorrow when i’m your hero!

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by Ivdown on Feb 10, 2012 1:28 PM PST reply actions  

That would be so amazing, lol

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by Ivdown on Feb 10, 2012 2:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Awesome. Most extreme home runs of 2011.

Such as, hit off the fastest pitch, hit off the slowest pitch, most inside off the plate, etc.

by fbihop on Feb 10, 2012 1:33 PM PST reply actions  

trumbo with a vladdy esque golf shot

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by nolander on Feb 10, 2012 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

ok vladdy hitting the most grooved pitch is just weird

I would expect him to take there

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by nolander on Feb 10, 2012 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

ha

Didn’t he hit one on a bounce once?

by kinbote on Feb 10, 2012 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

when he was on the expos I think he hit a pitch that bounced in front of the plate

for a ground rule double. I think.

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by nolander on Feb 10, 2012 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure this is bumpkis

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by nolander on Feb 10, 2012 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I may make this my new signature

It's gettin' so a businessman can't expect no return from a fixed fight. Now, if you can't trust a fix, what can you trust?

by mleadman on Feb 10, 2012 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

hah

and I didn’t even spell bupkis right

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by nolander on Feb 10, 2012 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

You didn't use it right either

It’s win-win

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by mleadman on Feb 10, 2012 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

He used it cromulently.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Feb 10, 2012 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought he used it rather cavalierly.

by kinbote on Feb 10, 2012 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

so much ado about bupkis

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by nolander on Feb 10, 2012 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

slow day

I’ve been looking at the Pirates’ rotation.

Charlie Morton
James McDonald
Kevin Correia
Jeff Karstens
Erik Bedard

If Burnett is added, does it even matter?

by kinbote on Feb 10, 2012 2:08 PM PST up reply actions  

The Padres and Rockies can feel much better about their rotations.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Feb 10, 2012 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Well ……………

Bedard could be better then anything we have after Kershaw. Bedard has certainly shown in the past he can do it when healthy.

Would all rather have Capang at a bizillion or James for nothing?

Did you already forget that Morton is Halladay Light:)

On the other side Tallion and Cole be legit prospects as these place holders do their gig.

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by meercatjohn on Feb 10, 2012 3:50 PM PST up reply actions  

And they say engineers can’t be taught anything new

It's gettin' so a businessman can't expect no return from a fixed fight. Now, if you can't trust a fix, what can you trust?

by mleadman on Feb 10, 2012 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Yup

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 10, 2012 1:42 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

thanks

That’s one of my favorite baseball plays ever. I love his reaction too.

by kinbote on Feb 10, 2012 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Tim Kirkjian on Ichiro:

In Japan, he singled on a pitch that bounced before it got to the plate — the Japanese actually practice hitting a bouncing ball.

by fbihop on Feb 10, 2012 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Two uniquely talented baseball players. Plus plus arms and hit skills. Quite an unlikely comp.

by kinbote on Feb 10, 2012 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

my favorite of all-time

is Manny cutting off Damon’s throw. It’s like the Law of Diminishing Returns doesn’t apply when I watch that clip over and over again. The play is ridiculous in and of itself, but Manny exerted more effort on that blooper than he ever did on any play in the field in his entire career.

by ishXdavid on Feb 10, 2012 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Berra

is supposed to have done that too

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by mleadman on Feb 10, 2012 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Ichiro did it

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by G.Scott on Feb 10, 2012 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

This is great

My favorite is the Corey Patterson one. There’s a reason he never made it.

by kinbote on Feb 10, 2012 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Don’t swing don’t swing don’t swing nice cut!

by kinbote on Feb 10, 2012 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Mitch Mustain, still not yet completely irrelevant.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Feb 10, 2012 2:00 PM PST reply actions  

This made me chuckle

It's gettin' so a businessman can't expect no return from a fixed fight. Now, if you can't trust a fix, what can you trust?

by mleadman on Feb 10, 2012 2:16 PM PST reply actions  

Poor Erubiel Durazo.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Feb 10, 2012 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

When I think of people with really short arms

Hal Sutton usually comes to mind first.

It's gettin' so a businessman can't expect no return from a fixed fight. Now, if you can't trust a fix, what can you trust?

by mleadman on Feb 10, 2012 2:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Spoiler
The organisation’s standard “no animals were harmed” statement was removed from the credits of both episodes.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-16979834

by kinbote on Feb 10, 2012 2:16 PM PST reply actions  

I am very busy

but had to pop in and say “PLAY BALL!”

so damn excited

by Hollywood Joe on Feb 10, 2012 2:22 PM PST reply actions  

Bryce Harper

was supposed to go to USC. Never knew this.

by silverwidow on Feb 10, 2012 2:34 PM PST reply actions  

So was Reggie Bush

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by mleadman on Feb 10, 2012 2:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Was there ever a serious possibility that he wouldn’t turn pro, though?

by Just Jake on Feb 10, 2012 2:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Nope, just a hypothetical.

by silverwidow on Feb 10, 2012 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Considering he dropped out of high school, got his GED and enrolled in a JC in order to better prepare him for the pro-game, I’m surprised he even identified a 4 year college at all.

by Michael White on Feb 10, 2012 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

He only did the JC thing because he was too young to be drafted. He would have done that if rules allowed it.

by Michael White on Feb 10, 2012 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

BTW

I am guessing the USC he was going to go to was the one in South Carolina.

by bhsportsguy on Feb 10, 2012 4:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Right

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by meercatjohn on Feb 10, 2012 4:06 PM PST up reply actions  

probably true

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by nolander on Feb 10, 2012 4:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m surprised USC couldn’t match the Nationals’ signing bonus.

by ishXdavid on Feb 10, 2012 2:48 PM PST up reply actions  

also, live draft or autodraft? I’ve never commissioned a league before

by Josie Becker on Feb 10, 2012 2:54 PM PST up reply actions  

it has to be live

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by nolander on Feb 10, 2012 2:59 PM PST up reply actions  

or it’s Memorex

It's gettin' so a businessman can't expect no return from a fixed fight. Now, if you can't trust a fix, what can you trust?

by mleadman on Feb 10, 2012 3:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I prefer points to roto, but both are better than H2H. And live drafts are much more fun.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Feb 10, 2012 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I also vote for live draft.

by fbihop on Feb 10, 2012 2:56 PM PST up reply actions  

While I won't be participating

1) I prefer head to head. It’s less fair but more fun.
2) Autodraft blows. Live drafts are the way to go.

by Michael White on Feb 10, 2012 2:56 PM PST up reply actions  

I figured most people would have this as their second league, roto would make it okay to miss days here and there

by Josie Becker on Feb 10, 2012 2:57 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m not participating either but I agree with this completely. Also, H2H often keeps people paying attention to the league more than roto does.

by VegasBlues on Feb 10, 2012 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

I also enjoy head to head with live draft, and would be interested in playing.

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by G.Scott on Feb 10, 2012 3:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Head to head I think

also live draft

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by Ivdown on Feb 10, 2012 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

I believe we’ve reached consensus. Now just need a date for the draft

by Josie Becker on Feb 10, 2012 3:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Would a saturday or sunday be best?

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by Ivdown on Feb 10, 2012 3:12 PM PST up reply actions  

tomorrow

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by nolander on Feb 10, 2012 3:13 PM PST up reply actions  

As the commisioner of my Yahoo baseball and football leagues, my advice on picking the draft time is a Wednesday or Thursday night, give people plenty of notice (so they can plan around it) and don’t change the draft time unless it’s overwhelmingly clear the day doesn’t work. Otherwise, you’ll just drive yourself crazy.

by Michael White on Feb 10, 2012 3:14 PM PST up reply actions  

SABR stats just aren’t nearly as fun in fantasy

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by G.Scott on Feb 10, 2012 3:32 PM PST up reply actions  

We have BA/OBP/SLG in mine. The addition of OBP and SLG are the only outside the box categories though. No FIP or any of that shit.

by Michael White on Feb 10, 2012 3:33 PM PST up reply actions  

net steals, whip

i think work well.

i used holds last year too even though holds is kinda bogus when it comes to smart stats

by Joey Joe on Feb 10, 2012 3:38 PM PST up reply actions  

WHIP is a criteria as well. Interestingly, it’s been there since my first league. I think it’s a standard in Yahoo Leagues.

Net steals is a good idea. I’ll look into that.

by Michael White on Feb 10, 2012 3:43 PM PST up reply actions  

whip is def standard

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by nolander on Feb 10, 2012 3:43 PM PST up reply actions  

couldn't we just do away with BA?

I mean this is a TBLA league

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by nolander on Feb 10, 2012 3:42 PM PST up reply actions  

i dont like head to head because its too much effort…

with rotisserie, you just set your lineup and starters and you can just check how your stats are doing every couple weeks or so.

by Joey Joe on Feb 10, 2012 3:44 PM PST up reply actions  

*shrug*

never done anything other then head to head. Less work sounds like a good thing.

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by nolander on Feb 10, 2012 3:45 PM PST up reply actions  

I set my lineup at the beginning of the week for head to head anyway. I don’t like to “tinker” so I ride out the week and don’t overreact to a hot game by a bench guy. I really only need to check it on Sundays and Wednesdays (to insure the starter pitchers are right.)

by Michael White on Feb 10, 2012 3:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Rotisserie

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Feb 10, 2012 5:48 PM PST up reply actions  

5×5
Live draft.
-
Too many categories thins out the points

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Feb 10, 2012 5:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Hooray?
Dylan Hernandez @dylanohernandez
The #Dodgers outrighted IF Russ Mitchell to triple-A Albuquerque.

by silverwidow on Feb 10, 2012 2:56 PM PST reply actions  

He’s our 50th-best prospect after all!

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by Nolij on Feb 10, 2012 2:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Need good restaurants

in Sherman Oaks vicinity for a birthday dinner. Any Recs?

It's gettin' so a businessman can't expect no return from a fixed fight. Now, if you can't trust a fix, what can you trust?

by mleadman on Feb 10, 2012 3:10 PM PST reply actions  

Easy Req or Easiest req?

by Grimjack on Feb 10, 2012 5:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Tiramisu on Woodman and Ventura.

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by G.Scott on Feb 10, 2012 3:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Olivia on Van Nuys - starts pricey but is awesome

Gyukaku on Van Nuys and Moorpark if you’re into grilling meat, but it can be very pricey
Marmalade Cafe on Ventura just West of Kester
La Frite on Ventura, also West of Kester

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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by Maddz on Feb 10, 2012 4:37 PM PST up reply actions  

La Frite was shockingly good for something on Kitchen Nightmares.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 10, 2012 4:39 PM PST up reply actions  

back in the day, La Frite was super cool

I dated a girl who had been to Paris when I hadn’t been out of my bedroom yet. I thought was so much more sophisticated than me, she took me there and I thought she was the coolest. That feeling? It wore off

by Hollywood Joe on Feb 10, 2012 4:40 PM PST up reply actions  

just go to cheesecake factory and kill yourself afterwards

by delias man on Feb 10, 2012 3:25 PM PST up reply actions  

If I had to go to a place

that is inside the same complex as my work, I would kill myself

It's gettin' so a businessman can't expect no return from a fixed fight. Now, if you can't trust a fix, what can you trust?

by mleadman on Feb 10, 2012 3:37 PM PST up reply actions  

La Fondue Bourguignonne can be fun.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Feb 10, 2012 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Fondue would be a hoot, but it looks lie it’s closed according to Yelp

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by mleadman on Feb 10, 2012 3:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, balls. I went there for my birthday a couple years back and had a blast.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Feb 10, 2012 3:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Looks like it's going to be

Flemings in Woodland Hills. A little chainy for my taste but the steaks are supposed to be decent

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by mleadman on Feb 10, 2012 3:46 PM PST up reply actions  

chainy for sure, but good quality and they know how to cook meat

If you have any drinkers, warn them about the Martinis – they be deadly

by Hollywood Joe on Feb 10, 2012 3:47 PM PST up reply actions  

oh, I have drinkers

Thanks. I may end up driving everyone home

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by mleadman on Feb 10, 2012 3:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Decent wine list too, at least the one in Newport

by KellyStephen on Feb 10, 2012 4:27 PM PST up reply actions  

yep

all the big fruit, high alcohol Californians that go well with the red meats

Good wines, but nothing too quirky or interesting, is what i remember

But really good wines

by Hollywood Joe on Feb 10, 2012 4:37 PM PST up reply actions  

How did Sherman Oaks end up being all the way out in Woodland Hills?

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by meercatjohn on Feb 10, 2012 4:07 PM PST up reply actions  

It's all the same to me

Got people coming from Pasadena, Redondo and Newbury Park

It's gettin' so a businessman can't expect no return from a fixed fight. Now, if you can't trust a fix, what can you trust?

by mleadman on Feb 10, 2012 4:11 PM PST up reply actions  

booo

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena

by Maddz on Feb 10, 2012 4:37 PM PST up reply actions  

atta girl – you give it to him, too lazy to care I say! He is too damn lazy to care

by Hollywood Joe on Feb 10, 2012 4:38 PM PST up reply actions  

As if I had a choice in the matter

It's gettin' so a businessman can't expect no return from a fixed fight. Now, if you can't trust a fix, what can you trust?

by mleadman on Feb 10, 2012 4:39 PM PST up reply actions  

don’t fuck with my rant Marty – I gotta send this energy somewhere or I’ll explode

by Hollywood Joe on Feb 10, 2012 4:41 PM PST up reply actions  

too easy

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Feb 10, 2012 4:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Am I crazy for thinking I can just buy pizza dough at fresh and easy

slap it in a cast iron pot, cook it and call it deep dish?

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Feb 10, 2012 3:18 PM PST reply actions  

Don’t forget to use your Friends card!

by silverwidow on Feb 10, 2012 3:19 PM PST up reply actions  

If you have a little time I’d recommend this recipe from Lou Malnati’s in Chicago. I’ve eaten there several times and also made it at home and both are quite tastey.

http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/follow-that-food/chicago-style-pizza-recipe/index.html

by KellyStephen on Feb 10, 2012 3:29 PM PST up reply actions  

bookmarked for next time

I plan on making it tonight so I don’t have time to let the dough do its thing if I where to make it

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Feb 10, 2012 3:31 PM PST up reply actions  

A friend

has pizza flown in from Malnati’s whenever a Chicago team is in the superbowl or basketball finals

It's gettin' so a businessman can't expect no return from a fixed fight. Now, if you can't trust a fix, what can you trust?

by mleadman on Feb 10, 2012 3:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I prefer Gino’s East and Pizzeria Uno/Due, but Lou’s was closer to where I used to stay and wasn’t as crowded. And Linenkuegel on tap!

by KellyStephen on Feb 10, 2012 4:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't like deep-dish

so Lou’s thinner crust is one of my favorites.

It's gettin' so a businessman can't expect no return from a fixed fight. Now, if you can't trust a fix, what can you trust?

by mleadman on Feb 10, 2012 4:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Whatever happened to Jacopos in Beverly Hills? Used to go there as a kid.

by silverwidow on Feb 10, 2012 4:22 PM PST up reply actions  

someone drove their car through the window last I saw

I used to go there with a friend all the time

by Hollywood Joe on Feb 10, 2012 4:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Did you use the door, or was it you going through the window?

by KellyStephen on Feb 10, 2012 4:26 PM PST up reply actions  

I was a gentleman, I help the door for my friend

by Hollywood Joe on Feb 10, 2012 4:38 PM PST up reply actions  

someone flashed the HJ signal?

yeah, pretty much it – if you got a skillet or a baking dish that is probably easier to get out. Use a lasagna pan for a square one

make sure the pan is well oiled

What gives deep dish it’s crisp texture is that the surface of the dough actually fries against the hot sides and bottom of the pan

by Hollywood Joe on Feb 10, 2012 3:32 PM PST up reply actions  

thanks

I know that it’ll puff up something fierce as long as I don’t dock it

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Feb 10, 2012 3:42 PM PST up reply actions  

TWSS

It's gettin' so a businessman can't expect no return from a fixed fight. Now, if you can't trust a fix, what can you trust?

by mleadman on Feb 10, 2012 3:43 PM PST up reply actions  

for a deep dish finger tips or fork will work

by Hollywood Joe on Feb 10, 2012 3:48 PM PST up reply actions  

When is the NL West prediction thread coming?

by Joey Joe on Feb 10, 2012 3:30 PM PST reply actions  

I predict that whatever predictions are made today will be wrong by September.

Giants
Rockies
DBacks
Dodgers
Padres

You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.

by G.Scott on Feb 10, 2012 3:33 PM PST up reply actions  

i got

Dbax – 92-70
Giants – 84-78
Dodgers- 81-81
Padres – 75-87
Rockies – 66-96

by Joey Joe on Feb 10, 2012 3:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Fire Jim Tracy

It's gettin' so a businessman can't expect no return from a fixed fight. Now, if you can't trust a fix, what can you trust?

by mleadman on Feb 10, 2012 3:40 PM PST up reply actions  

“Should I be fired? I can’t answer that. Will I be fired? Probably.”

by EMDarrow on Feb 10, 2012 5:44 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

even if the predictions are right

they’ll be for the wrong reasons

and the right reasons will only yield wrong results

by Hollywood Joe on Feb 10, 2012 4:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Dodgers
D-backs
Giants
Rockies
Padres
:D

by funkyjam on Feb 10, 2012 4:20 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

what time is the fantasy draft?

by funkyjam on Feb 10, 2012 5:19 PM PST up reply actions  

READ THE POST

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Feb 10, 2012 5:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I didn’t have a time, he’s right. I had date only

by Josie Becker on Feb 10, 2012 5:30 PM PST up reply actions  

damnit!

well then I apologize

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Feb 10, 2012 6:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m in.

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Feb 10, 2012 6:10 PM PST up reply actions  

mitch mustain..

anyone see this?

http://espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/story/_/id/7561727/former-usc-trojans-qb-mitch-mustain-signs-chicago-white-sox

Mustain, 23, hasn’t pitched since high school and was prepared to report to the Georgia Force of the Arena Football League, but in a tryout with the White Sox, his fastball cracked 90 mph on the radar gun.

“I haven’t played in eight years, which, my age, it’s going to be a little bit harder to get back into this,” Mustain said, according to 5News in Fayetteville, Ark. "As time goes I figured this would be my one shot at it, and why not? I’m going to take this shot. I’m going to give it everything I have and see where it goes.

by Joey Joe on Feb 10, 2012 3:47 PM PST reply actions  

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Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Feb 10, 2012 3:49 PM PST reply actions  

LETS PLAY NOW

I CANNOT WAIT

by Hollywood Joe on Feb 10, 2012 4:26 PM PST reply actions  

HEY I SAID I WANNA PLAY NOW

I GOT TOURNAMENT ON SATURDAY AND BASEBALL ON SUNDAY – FREAKING OUT AT HOW LUCKY I AM

by Hollywood Joe on Feb 10, 2012 4:33 PM PST reply actions  

I don’t want to play. My eyes hurt. :(

Off to go get my first pair of glasses :( :( :(

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena

by Maddz on Feb 10, 2012 4:38 PM PST up reply actions  

that’s what studying does to ya, it’s horribad : (

by Josie Becker on Feb 10, 2012 4:39 PM PST up reply actions  

IF I AM LUCKY ENOUGH TO JACK ONE

KUO BATFLIP TRIBUTE, PLEASE LORD LEMME HAVE ONE

by Hollywood Joe on Feb 10, 2012 4:39 PM PST up reply actions  

If I bust out a Robbie Keane cartwheel to bang bang will I get….fuck it, I’m doing it!

by Josie Becker on Feb 10, 2012 4:46 PM PST up reply actions  

and I hope we leave behind a mound of broken ones behind the TBLA juggernaut

by Hollywood Joe on Feb 10, 2012 5:03 PM PST up reply actions  

TBLA plans to win the war of attrition.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Feb 10, 2012 5:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Like playing Russia in the winter!

/seems like we have done this before

by Hollywood Joe on Feb 10, 2012 5:05 PM PST up reply actions  

a new audience is what we crave and what we shall have

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Feb 10, 2012 5:05 PM PST up reply actions  

That said we probably forfeit the 08:00 game because Bobby got lost trying to connect with David while Joe and Phil twiddled thumbs

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Feb 10, 2012 5:05 PM PST up reply actions  

we will have cars, we will not wait too long

Full disclosure: I went to K&L today, I might be a bit “winey” in the AM

by Hollywood Joe on Feb 10, 2012 5:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Giants inviting ex-prospect/murderer Angel Villona to Spring Training. In case you want a non territorial reason to hate the Giants.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 10, 2012 4:38 PM PST reply actions  

all charges where dropped

but this caught my eye

Former Giant Juan Uribe was implicated in a shooting in 2006 while a member of the Chicago White Sox, but charges were not filed and Uribe claimed that he was the victim of an extortion plot.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Feb 10, 2012 4:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Anyone else see Simmons' F-bomb in his article?
I really believe that. And also, I fucking hate the Lakers.

It was Grantland, but isn’t ESPN supposed to be a family-friendly website?

by ishXdavid on Feb 10, 2012 4:57 PM PST reply actions  

ESPN is supposed to be a lot of things that it’s not.

by Josie Becker on Feb 10, 2012 4:58 PM PST up reply actions  

True...

but an F-bomb getting through the editorial process is pretty egregious.

by ishXdavid on Feb 10, 2012 5:02 PM PST up reply actions  

grantland is not ESPN

it touches on mature subject matter

I don’t know why you’d even fucking care

by Hollywood Joe on Feb 10, 2012 5:03 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m sure they’re aware it’s there and that Simmons knows he has the green light.

by JonWeisman on Feb 10, 2012 5:07 PM PST up reply actions  

DeAndre Jordan does not appear to be functioning properly on this road trip. I blame Mr. Martin

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Feb 10, 2012 5:06 PM PST reply actions  

Need suggestions for the most annoying Pandora station possible. Thanks.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 10, 2012 5:14 PM PST reply actions  

Comedy Icons

as they keep insisting on playing Dane Cook

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 10, 2012 5:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Chumbawumba

I like it.

That or I can just play Panama on repeat.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 10, 2012 5:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Madison Square Garden?

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 10, 2012 5:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Close

it is the now named Oracle Arena that the Warriors play in.

by bhsportsguy on Feb 10, 2012 5:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Oakland Alameda County Arena opened in 1966, the current MSG opened in 1968. The Great Western Forum opened in 1967, for comparison’s sake.

by Josie Becker on Feb 10, 2012 5:45 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t believe the “Great Western” forum opened in that year. However, I do believe that was the first corporate sponsorship of an arena when it happened (in 1988 if you believe Wikipedia).

by KellyStephen on Feb 10, 2012 5:47 PM PST up reply actions  

But it is not the longest continuous home arena

The Warriors played in some other places during the last 45 years too. The Knicks have been playing in that version of the Garden during that whole run.

by bhsportsguy on Feb 10, 2012 5:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Didn’t they have to play someplace else when they rebuilt it?

by KellyStephen on Feb 10, 2012 5:49 PM PST up reply actions  

they played some home games at the San Diego Arena, and for the last rebuild they played in San Jose

by Josie Becker on Feb 10, 2012 5:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I was talking about the Garden…don’t think they played home games in San Diego. :)

by KellyStephen on Feb 10, 2012 6:00 PM PST up reply actions  

The Cow Palace!


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 10, 2012 6:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh yeah…that place is as old as dirt

by KellyStephen on Feb 10, 2012 5:45 PM PST up reply actions  

what time is the fantasy draft?

by funkyjam on Feb 10, 2012 5:18 PM PST reply actions  

Definitive minor league spring training news

from the Dodgers:

Pitchers and catchers report on March 3 and the first workout is March 5. All others report on March 9 and the first workout is March 11. Minor league early camp begins on February 27.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 10, 2012 5:40 PM PST reply actions  

Are you reporting with the catchers or all others?

by KellyStephen on Feb 10, 2012 5:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I could show up Monday, February 20, but I don’t think much will be going on. I’ll be there when p&c’s report on Feb 21.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 10, 2012 5:45 PM PST up reply actions  

MLS doing

spring training this month. Andrew Luck has been here all week, getting ready for the combine. Tall drink of water that guy

by Josie Becker on Feb 10, 2012 5:46 PM PST up reply actions  

sss

…but watching lakers basketball is painful. dudes can’t score to save their lives.

granted I don’t watch much nba since moving in with my gf..

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Feb 10, 2012 5:46 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

terrible so far

hopefully they start heating up

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 10, 2012 5:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Clippers however are balling out of control

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Feb 10, 2012 5:58 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Todd Coffey will wear number 60 for the Dodgers

by Eric Stephen on Feb 10, 2012 5:48 PM PST reply actions  

Ronald Belisario, now number 51. Poor Broxton.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 10, 2012 5:53 PM PST reply actions  

he’s a Royal

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 10, 2012 5:57 PM PST up reply actions  

i'm curious if he does well

if the Royals might pull the trigger on a Soria trade.

unless they’re in it

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 10, 2012 5:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Lakers luckily

only down by 8 at the half

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 10, 2012 6:12 PM PST reply actions  

Fisher needs to join the coaching staff and give it up already, he is D O N E, DONE!

by uschris0304 on Feb 10, 2012 6:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Hes not done but he shouldn't be playing as much as they play him

he can still get hot with shooting and can still play D but he is old and erratic to be sure

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Feb 10, 2012 6:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Even when Fish was young, he was below average on defense

At this point in time, he’s by far the worst pick and roll defender in the league, and one of the worst in the past 20 years. He’s patented the Flail My Arms On The High Screen So The Refs Call Illegal Screen move, but they’re not blowing their whistles anymore and the opposing PG is now ten feet past Fish.

by The Dude Abides on Feb 10, 2012 9:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Turn in

your Laker card at the door, Fisher gets to go on his terms not anyone else.

by bhsportsguy on Feb 10, 2012 6:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Look, I love Fisher as much as anyone and appreciate what he has done for this franchise.I dont talk shit about him and rag on him like alot of other Laker fans do now. That said, pro sports is a what have you done for me lately business, and winning is the business.

by uschris0304 on Feb 10, 2012 6:27 PM PST up reply actions  

There is no point to this discussion

he isn’t retiring and the Lakers still have his salary on the books so they can’t cut him.

As UD said above, his playing time would go down if they had someone better to play but they don’t.

Be logical.

by bhsportsguy on Feb 10, 2012 6:29 PM PST up reply actions  

sorry man, just frustrated.

by uschris0304 on Feb 10, 2012 6:30 PM PST up reply actions  

See, there FIsh goes…. gotta let players know when they’re fuckin up, then they respond. He knows.

by uschris0304 on Feb 10, 2012 6:34 PM PST up reply actions  

But im mostly just frustrated and tired of seeing Fisher get burned on a daily basis. When his shot isnt falling, it just adds to my frustration, cuz he sure as hell aint stopping anybody. I agree with Craig he probably has enough to come of the bench, so Lakers need to make that a reality atleast, which I do believe they will. Hopefully sooner then later.

by uschris0304 on Feb 10, 2012 6:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Derek Fisher

never had quickness as an asset and back when he had his feet and leg problems 7-8 years ago, it got worst. The Lakers have always relied on team defense to combat quick outside guards.

The good thing is that generally, over a 7 game series, small quick guards alone have not shown that they can win a playoff series. Certainly they are beneficial but you can exploit them in other areas.

Over the regular season, it becomes more difficult because of the timing of games.

by bhsportsguy on Feb 10, 2012 6:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Don’t buy this argument. Time and again athletes have proven unable to judge when they are no longer physically capable of contributing the way they did in the past.

by Josie Becker on Feb 10, 2012 6:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Whose arguing this part

he’s signed a three year deal in 2010 so he is still on the books until the end of next season. He isn’t going to go now or anytime soon.

by bhsportsguy on Feb 10, 2012 6:32 PM PST up reply actions  

JEremy Lin is great fun to watch, can't help to admire even against my Lakers

but tell me, that play near the end, where he almost fell and made a move to lay it up, that the announcers were drooling over, he traveled so obviously I was kind of stunned no one said anything. I guess they don’t want to criticize him much right now. Anyway, other than that, pretty great stuff from him.

Lakers still in this game but seems like Matt Barnes is about the only go playing with intensity.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Feb 10, 2012 6:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Not sure what I think about the clippers’ “stand around and stare at the ball handler” offensive scheme

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Feb 10, 2012 6:14 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

You mean that “winning” scheme. Paul with another bailout of an awful offensive game for everyone.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 10, 2012 6:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Now that I know we won I shall hit play on the DVR with a plate full of Orange Chicken

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 10, 2012 6:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Williams and Foye

were 10 for 29. I guess you have to keep Mo on the bench but Chris Paul and Blake will have to have some big games the rest of this season.

by bhsportsguy on Feb 10, 2012 6:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Evans was the difference tonight

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 10, 2012 7:39 PM PST up reply actions  

25 dollar softball bat?

yes please

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena

by Maddz on Feb 10, 2012 6:29 PM PST reply actions  

Bobby will be bringing a couple of my daughter’s bats for the team to use. Unless you already bought it.

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Feb 10, 2012 6:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Target? When everyone was gagging on the price tags earlier, I wanted to bring up the cheap ass bats at Target, but was afraid they might be crap quality

by Josie Becker on Feb 10, 2012 6:38 PM PST up reply actions  

better then Wal Mart bats

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Feb 10, 2012 6:41 PM PST up reply actions  

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