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Dodgers 2012 Minor League Countdown: 30 - 21

Griff Erickson coming off the field during the 2012 Winter Development Program

Here is the next part of my minor league series, and in this post we delve into the top 30 Dodger prospects. While there probably aren't any major surprises in this group, there are some differences to some of the other top 30 that I've seen. I'm a little higher on guys like Landry and Schebler than most, while I'm not as big of a believer in guys like Van Slyke and Castellanos. As always let me know what you think.

Also, with two more post to go in the series it doesn't look like I'll be able to finish my minor league countdown before the start of spring training, but I should still have it done by the end of February.

30. Juan Rodriguez, RHP (76 IP in LoA in 2011, including 59 IP with Red Sox)
Trade with Red Sox for Trayvon Robinson
6’5”, 195 lbs, 23.25 years old
3-5, 4.38 ERA, 1.38 WHIP, 2.92 FIP, 12.79 K/9
Pre 2011 Rank: N/A; Pre 2010 Rank: N/A; Pre 2009 Rank: N/A

There’s something about Juan Rodriguez that I like. The hard throwing right hander was acquired by the Dodgers as part of the Trayvon Robinson trade, and what he lacks in control he makes up for with velocity. Signed by the Red Sox as a 19 year old out of the Dominican Republic, Juan dominated the DSL for two seasons before getting promoted to the Red Sox Gulf Coast team in 2010. After a solid US debut Rodriguez was sent to the Sally League in 2011 and had a 5.19 ERA prior to be shipped to the Dodgers. Upon joining the Loons, however, Juan posted a 1.59 ERA over 17 frames and allowed just 6 hits for a .105 batting average against. At the time of the trade, Ned Colletti said “Rodriguez has power stuff and is still very young. He has potential to develop into a solid late-inning reliever." Here is video of him throwing for the Loons. In addition to an upper 90’s fastball, Rodriguez throws a slider and a changeup, but by all accounts his secondary pitches are fringy at best. He has good movement on his fastball, however, which is what allows him to strike out so many batters. Overall I love Rodriguez’s projectable frame, and because he is still just 23 I feel that he’ll be able to improve upon his control and slider with good coaching. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Dodgers challenged Rodriguez with an assignment to AA in 2012, and like Ned Coletti I think Juan could eventually be a late inning reliever for the Dodgers.

Why #30: Rodriguez’s performance with the Loons showed that he could be something special, and I especially love his projectable frame. If he can fine tune just one of his secondary pitches then I think he could reach his potential of a late inning reliever. If his secondary pitches remain fringy, however, then it’s unlikely that he’ll succeed at the higher levels of the minor leagues.

29. Josh Wall, RHP (68.2 IP in AA in 2011)
Drafted by Dodgers 2005, 2nd round
6’6”, 220 lbs, 25 years old
4-5, 3.93 ERA, 1.44 WHIP, 3.99 FIP, 7.47 K/9
Pre 2011 Rank: 61; Pre 2010 Rank: 57; Pre 2009 Rank: 49

Josh Wall signed with the Dodgers out of high school in 2005 as a 2nd round pick for $500,000 and spent the first 6 professional seasons as a middling starting pitcher. 2011 brought about quite a few changes for Josh, however, because after four years in Class A the Dodgers finally decided to move him to AA, and they also changed his role from starter to reliever. Wall responded with his best season to date, posting an ERA below 4 for the first time since 2005 while providing the Lookouts with a solid bullpen arm. While his overall stats weren’t all that impressive, he did add a few ticks to his fastball and was rumored to be hitting 100 mph in some outings. After the season Wall was sent to the Arizona Fall League where he had even more success as he posted a 2.16 ERA over 8.1 frames against baseball’s best prospects. Here he is throwing for the Salt River Rafters. In addition to his strong fastball, Josh throws a hard slider along with a decent curveball and a fringy changeup. His overall potential as a reliever was too much for the Dodgers to ignore as they added him to the 40 man roster this past November. He was also invited to the Winter Development camp this past January along with several of the organizations other prospects. While there is currently no room for Josh in the big league bullpen, Wall is definitely an option to join the Dodgers at some point during the 2012 season. Given his age and experience the Dodgers probably won’t be afraid to send him to AAA despite the tough pitching conditions.

Why #29:
After 7 minor league seasons, Wall has finally become relevant as a prospect thanks to his newfound success as a reliever and a fastball that apparently can reach triple digits. I’ve always liked Wall’s size and draft pedigree, and I’m glad that he’s found a home in the bullpen because that should allow him to eventually make it to the big leagues. He doesn’t seem to the stuff of a closer but I think his ceiling is that of a big league middle reliever.

Follow the jump for #'s 28 - 21

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28. Scott Barlow, RHP (1.2 IP in Arz Rookie Lg in 2011)
Drafted by Dodgers 2011, 6th round
6’4”, 170 lbs, 19.25 years old
0-1, 27.00 ERA, 4.20 WHIP, 13.40 FIP, 5.40 K/9
Pre 2011 Rank: N/A; Pre 2010 Rank: N/A; Pre 2009 Rank: N/A

I’m usually a big fan when the Dodgers draft high school arms, but when I heard that the Dodgers picked Scott Barlow in the 6th round of this past draft I wasn’t overly excited. High school players picked in the top 10 rounds of the draft are usually dominant in the prep career, but Barlow didn’t have eye popping stats as he went 7-4 with a 3.17 ERA and 84 strikeouts in 64 innings as a senior at Golden Valley High in Santa Clarita. In addition, reports were that his fastball maxed out in the high 80’s, and that he had some attitude problems during his high school career. However I partially changed my mind about Barlow’s potential after reading that he had added significant muscle after the draft and was hitting 94 mph in the Dodgers offseason instructional league. Besides his newly improved fastball, Scott also has a strong curveball, a slider, and a changeup, so he apparently has enough offerings to remain in the rotation. According to a Baseball America offseason chat with Jim Shonerd, Barlow should be considered one of the Dodgers best sleeper prospects, and I also learned in that chat that the Dodgers were also encouraged by his clean mechanics and feel for pitching. Barlow will be just 19 years old during the 2012 season so I’m guessing the Dodgers will take it slow with Scott and keep him in the Arizona Rookie League for a full season. As mentioned above I’m encouraged by the recent reports on his stuff so I definitely think that he should be considered a legitimate prospect going forward.

Why #28:
Before reading about Barlow’s improved fastball I was ready to rank him in the 40 to 50 range, but obviously he’s now moved up a few spots. I still don’t have him as high as some other publications, however, because I’ve yet to see how his different pitches will work against professional hitters. I’m also worried a bit about reports about his attitude problems. If everything goes according to plan I believe his ceiling is that of a #3 starter, but that potential is a long ways off.

27. Leon Landry, CF (125 games in LoA in 2011)
Drafted by Dodgers 2010, 3rd round
5’11”, 185 lbs, 22.5 years old, bats left handed
.250 average, .667 OPS, 4 HR’s, 41 RBI’s, 28 SB’s
Pre 2011 Rank: 21; Pre 2010 Rank: N/A; Pre 2009 Rank: N/A

Leon Landry played his college ball at LSU, and although he helped the Tigers win the 2009 College World Series he was overshadowed by several players on that team. That changed in 2010 as he established himself as a more elite player by hitting .338 with 6 homers and 16 stolen bases, striking out just 25 times in 240 at bats, and making just one error in center field. The Dodgers selected him in the 3rd round of the 2010 draft and Landry signed quickly for about $285K. Leon made his professional debut in the Pioneer League and had an outstanding season for the Ogden Raptors, ranking among the league leaders in several offensive categories and hitting very well both at home and on the road. He also showed that he was an outstanding defender, and according to Raptor radio man Brandon Hart “Landry should be defined by his defense. It is what got him drafted in the 3rd round. He has a second gear in the field.” In 2011 Landry moved up to the Midwest League, but unfortunately like a lot of his Loons’ teammates his numbers fell dramatically in LoA. He was only able to match his 2010 home run total despite aggregating more than double the at bats, and his OPS fell more than 240 points. On the plus side he stole 28 bases, continued to play solid defense in center field, and struck out in just 12.1% of his plate appearances. In addition, he was incredibly consistent as he not only hit .250 for the season, but batted exactly .250 in April, May, and July. Overall Neon Leon’s potential probably falls somewhere in between the outstanding athlete we saw in 2010 and the disappointing player we saw in 2011. His defense definitely has big league potential so he just needs to learn a more consistent approach at the plate. Still just 22, I think Landry will move up to HiA in 2012 where he’ll roam center field for the Quakes.

Why #27:
Similar to last year, I think Landry has the ceiling as a solid defensive outfielder at the big league level who can play either left or center and hit .280 with about 10 homers and 25 stolen bases per year. While he fell off the map for some, I still like his potential and think he just needed to adjust to playing baseball over an entire 140 game schedule.

26. Scott Schebler, OF (70 games in Pioneer Rookie Lg in 2011)
Drafted by Dodgers 2010, 26th round
6’1”, 208 lbs, 21.5 years old, bats left handed
.285 average, .853 OPS, 13 HR’s, 58 RBI, 1 SB
Pre 2011 Rank: 27; Pre 2010 Rank: N/A; Pre 2009 Rank: N/A

The Dodgers selected Scott Schebler in the 26th round of the 2010 draft after a huge season at Des Moines Area CC where he hit .446 with 20 jacks and 82 RBI’s. However his asking price to sign was $300K - $500K and he had a strong commitment Wichita State, so both Scott and the Dodgers played the waiting game. After getting drafted Schebler participated in the Northwoods League, a wood bat college summer league, to boost his stock. He did just that as he smacked 10 more homers in just 218 at bats. While negotiations went down the wire, the Dodgers eventually signed Schebler for $300K and a commitment to pay for his college. Scott played in just 5 games for the Dodgers in 2010 because he signed so late, so 2011 was really our first real look at Schebler. He spent the year in the Pioneer League and quietly had a very good season for Ogden, tying for the team lead with 13 homers while posting a .853 OPS. Check out one of his at bats here. He was outstanding with runners on base, and ended the season on a hot streak. He also answered some questions about his defense as he spent almost all his time in right field and posted the best fielding percentage of all the outfielders. The one surprise about his season was the fact that he only stole one base, especially because Baseball America described him as having plus speed in their pre-draft report. In addition Schebler posted a very low walk rate and ended up K’ing in 30.8% of his plate appearances, which isn’t a good combination. Despite those negatives, I still see Schebler as a very exciting athlete that has a lot of potential. He’ll definitely move up to a full season league next season and hopefully he’ll show improvement in the various aspects of his game now that he has a full season of experience under his belt. I expect him to spend 2012 with the Loons where he’ll be an intriguing guy to follow.

Why #26: While Schebler got lost in the mix of a good Raptor team and seems to have fallen off the prospect radar despite a strong season, I am holding fast on my ranking of the outfielder. His lack of stolen bases concerns me because I thought that would be a big part of his game at the next level, but I still think he could mature into a power and speed guy who can handle any of the outfield positions. His ceiling would be that of a major league player with 20 – 20 potential, but that’s obviously a long way off and he’s definitely going to need to improve his contact rate next season.

25. Scott Van Slyke, RF (130 games in AA in 2011)

Drafted by Dodgers 2005, 14th round
6’5”, 220 lbs, 25.5 years old, bats right handed
.348 average, 1.022 OPS, 20 HR’s, 92 RBI’s, 6 SB’s
Pre 2011 Rank: 55; Pre 2010 Rank: 28; Pre 2009 Rank: 123; TBLA Prospect #14

For Scott Van Slyke, things just seem to take a little longer. Drafted way back in 2005, Scott muddled through several seasons including a very average performance in the California League in 2008. When he returned to HiA in 2009, however, Van Slyke had a breakout season that included 23 homers, 100 RBI’s, and a .907 OPS. That earned him a promotion to AA in 2010, but he got off to a slow start in his new environment and was sent back down to HiA where he again found success. Van Slyke got another shot at the Southern League in 2011, and just like with HiA he broke out in his second go-around. This time Scott really set the world on fire as he led the Lookouts in every significant offensive category except for runs and stolen bases, and even won the league batting title with a .348 average. As Ken Gurnick pointed out in a recent article, the change for Van Slyke came when he started taking baseball seriously. You can read all about it here, but overall he says he is now more committed to the game. Defensively Scott can play both outfield and 1st base, although he’s merely average at both positions and probably can’t handle center or right field at the big league level. I got a good look at Van Slyke during the Winter Development Program last month, and I was impressed with how big he was and how much he looked like a ball player. I’ll admit that his appearance helped bump him up a few spots in my rankings, although I’m still not one of his biggest fans so I still probably have him lower than most. Now that he’s on the 40 man roster, Van Slyke will have a bigger spotlight on him in 2012 so we’ll see how he responds to that. He’ll most likely play in the hitter’s paradise known as Albuquerque, so I do expect him to continue to put up big numbers. I’m not sure how his success in the minors will translate in the big leagues, however, so for now I think he’ll be a bench player at best.

Why #25: Van Slyke has definitely improved over the past few seasons, but I just don’t see him as a big league starter. He’ll probably make his MLB debut in 2012 and could eventually be a bench player, but given his struggles with new environments (another example was this past winter when he hit .194 in the Venezuelan Winter League) he could have a lot of trouble getting enough playing time at the big league to get comfortable enough to have success.

24. Alex Castellanos, OF (125 games in AA in 2011, including 93 games with Cardinals)
Trade with Cardinals for Rafael Furcal
5’11”, 180 lbs, 25.5 years old, bats right handed
.320 average, .958 OPS, 23 HR’s, 85 RBI’s, 14 SB’s
Pre 2011 Rank: N/A; Pre 2010 Rank: N/A; Pre 2009 Rank: N/A; TBLA Prospect #17

The Dodgers obtained Alex Castellanos from the Cardinals in exchange for Rafael Furcal. Most fans didn’t expect Los Angeles to get anything more than salary relief for Furcal, so the fact that the Dodgers also got a decent prospect was icing on the cake. Since joining the organization, Castellanons has been a controversial prospect because he is loved by some, but ignored by others. He hit .322 after joining the Lookouts with a 1.009 OPS over 121 at bats, but he was one of the older players in the Southern League and didn’t have a whole lot of success in previous years. After the season he was sent to the AFL and started off on fire, but an oblique injury sent him home after just 8 games. I personally think Castellanos’ value lies in his ability to play the infield because as a 25 year old outfielder he is just another big league bench player. That being said, I don’t think he has what it takes to play 2nd base or 3rd base because if he had that ability he would have been playing there already. I got a chance to watch Alex practice in person during the Dodgers winter development program, and physically he did not impress me at all. He actually reminded me a bit of another Alex, Alex Cora, albeit with more power. While I was there Tommy Lasorda did specially ask that he get some extra reps in the batting cage and he did hit the ball pretty well, but I just don’t see him as being a power threat at the big league level. He’ll almost certainly spend 2012 in AAA, but now that he’s on the Dodgers’ 40 man roster he’ll probably see Los Angeles at some point next season.

Why #24: As mentioned above I was not impressed with Castellanos physical appearance, and although there is no denying his impressive stats in 2011 you do have to remember that he was already 25 years old when the season ended. He may eventually be a useful big league player and he has the ceiling of a starting outfielder, but I don’t think he’ll ever show significant power and he doesn’t really have any other plus skills. Unless he can truly transition to the infield then I’m going to keep him out of my top 20.

23. Ryan O'Sullivan, RHP (8.1 IP in Pioneer Rookie Lg in 2011)
Drafted by Dodgers 2011, 4th round
6’2”, 190 lbs, 21.5 years old
0-1, 6.48 ERA, 1.56 WHIP, 5.72 FIP, 5.40 K/9
Pre 2011 Rank: N/A; Pre 2010 Rank: N/A; Pre 2009 Rank: N/A

After declining to sign with the Giants out of high school as a 10th round pick, Ryan O’Sullivan decided to attend San Diego State and as a freshman in 2009 he was in the same rotation as Stephen Strasburg. While he struggled during that first season to the tune of a 6.79 ERA, the Aztecs believed he would eventually take over as the staff ace. Unfortunately he injured his elbow in his first appearance of 2010, however, which caused him to miss the entire season. Struggles with grades forced him to transferred to Oklahoma City College, but upon arriving it was discovered he couldn’t get an academic release to play in 2011. Despite another missed season, O’Sullivan was eligible for the 2011 draft and threw bullpen sessions for several teams. The Dodgers were among the teams scouting Ryan, and took a flyer on him with their 4th round pick. Per Baseball America he apparently had issues with his post draft physical, but instead of going through another year of college he decided to sign for a below slot deal of $100,000. O’Sullivan made his professional debut in the Pioneer League, but he only threw 8.1 innings over 3 appearances so the sample size is too small to analyze. There are solid scouting reports about his stuff, however, and per Baseball America he has a quality 4 pitch mix. His fastball sits in the low 90’s and peaks and 95 mph, while his slider is his best secondary offering. He also throws a show-me curveball and a circle change. Ryan, whose brother Sean O’Sullivan has thrown 193 big league innings with the Angeles and Royals, will almost certainly start 2012 in the Loons rotation, but they will probably limit his innings give that he hasn’t pitched a full season since 2009. Given his lack of experience and injury history he is a bit of a wildcard, but if he reaches his full potential then he seems to have the stuff to be a middle of the rotation starter.

Why #23:
When a guy has better pure stuff than his brother who has already made it to the big leagues, you have to like his changes. That being said Ryan’s injury history make him a bit of a question mark and caused him to fall a bit in my rankings. At his best he could be a middle of the rotation starter, but he is still a long way off from that ceiling.

22. Griff Erickson, C (41 games in AA, 63 games in HiA in 2011)
Drafted by Dodgers 2006, 15th round
6’4”, 220 lbs, 24 years old, switch hitter
.293 average, .866 OPS, 13 HR’s, 66 RBI’s, 4 SB’s
Pre 2011 Rank: 62; Pre 2010 Rank: 45; Pre 2009 Rank: 103; TBLA Prospect #19

Ever since he was selected in the 15th round of the 2006 draft, I’ve always had high aspirations for Gorman “Griff” Erickson. After hitting just .215 with 2 homers and a .619 OPS for the Loons in 2010, however, it was tough to consider Erickson a legitimate prospect. That all changed in 2011 after Griff was sent to the California League and had by far his best season to date. The big backstop only played 63 games for the Quakes because he was promoted to AA in early July, but he made the most of his time in Rancho with a .305 average and a .899 OPS. Griff also had a knack for getting on base with an OB% over .400, and showed a great eye as he walked almost as much as he struck out. After joining the Lookouts, Erickson smacked 7 homers in just 41 games and posted a .808 OPS in his first taste of the Southern League. He also continued to show improved defense while in AA and threw out 32% of would be base-stealers. After the season the switch hitter was sent to the Arizona Fall League where he struggled through 19 games, but the exposure to advanced pitching will be beneficial to him in the long run. Here he is batting right handed for the Salt River Rafters, here he is hitting left handed, and here’s a look at his receiving skills. Griff will be 24 years old when the 2012 season begins, so he is still quite young. He’ll probably return to AA where he’ll be the Lookouts’ main catcher, and other strong campaign should get him added to the 40 man roster next offseason. He’ll get a chance to show off in front of Dodgers management before then, however, because he was invited to the 2012 big league spring training. Overall Griff has more upside than fellow minor league catcher Tim Federowicz, but he’s less polished and has a lower chance of reaching his full potential.

Why #22: What’s not to love about a big switching hitting catcher coming off his best season? Especially when he held his own during his first taste of AA as a 23 year old? The only thing keeping him out of my top 20 is the fact that he hadn’t shown much potential prior to this season, so I’m a bit worried that he’ll return to his career averages in the future.

21. Alex Santana, 3B (50 games in Arz Rookie Lg in 2011)
Drafted by Dodgers 2011, 2nd round
6’4”, 200 lbs, 18.5 years old, bats right handed
.238 average, .636 OPS, 1 HR, 19 RBI’s, 8 SB’s
Pre 2011 Rank: N/A; Pre 2010 Rank: N/A; Pre 2009 Rank: N/A

After making Ralston Cash a surprise 2nd round pick in 2010, the Dodgers made another interesting decision in the 2nd round of the 2011 draft when they selected Alex Santana. Despite being picked #73 overall, Santana wasn’t ranked among the top 200 draft prospects by Baseball America. In fact, in BA’s state by state rankings, Santana was only the 72nd best draft prospect in the state of Florida. The Dodgers love bloodlines, however, so they made the son of former big league shortstop Rafael Santana their pick. Don’t get me wrong Santana is an intriguing player. He is extremely young and very raw, and he has some very interesting tools. Scouts say that he has strong wrists, is a good line drive hitter, and has good speed. He also projects to have above average power thanks to plus bat speed. Santana struggled during a 50 game debut in the Arizona Rookie League, posting a lowly .636 OPS and striking out in 31.2% of his plate appearances. He played almost the entire season as a 17 year old though so getting off to a slow start was expected, and he did have some bright spots as he stole 8 bases and ranked 3rd on the team with 30 runs scored. In terms of his defense, Alex was a shortstop in high school but has obviously outgrown the position. Now a 3rd baseman, Santana was still trying to learn the position during his debut season as he posted an ugly fielding percentage of .832 and made 17 errors in just 38 games. The good news is that he is expected to have the athleticism and arm to stick at the hot corner. Looking ahead to 2012, I can’t see Santana being ready for a full season league. Therefore I expect him to stay in extended spring training before playing the year in Ogden with the Raptors.

Why #21: I really like Santana’s potential and think he could be a solid major leaguer one day, but he could just as easily turn into just another organizational player. It’s tough to rank such a young player, but his bloodlines and power potential caused me to rank him in the top 20. His uncertainly and youth won’t allow me to rank him any higher, however. It’s very early in his career, but I currently see his ceiling as a big league 3rd baseman with 20 homer potential and a .280 average.

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Garcia makes the top 20:)

Expect Wall to makes his Major League debut this year

Expect Scrapmetal to kick Jansen ass and the Red Sox to rue the day he was Bedarded away

If Griff had not so completely sucked in the AFL I’d complain about his ranking but since he was the worst catcher in the AFL I cannot argue with this ranking.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Feb 16, 2012 1:16 PM PST reply actions  

Who is scrap metal, and why do we call him that?

It's gettin' so a businessman can't expect no return from a fixed fight. Now, if you can't trust a fix, what can you trust?

by mleadman on Feb 16, 2012 1:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I called him that when we traded for him and I cannot remember why. And I like it. I would search for why but fuck the SBNation search engine.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Feb 16, 2012 1:21 PM PST up reply actions  

“We got a crappy catcher and a couple scrap heap relievers for Trayvon”

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 16, 2012 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Nah, Phil would have said “We got the next Johnny Bench and two scrap heap relievers.” :)

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Feb 16, 2012 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

At the time of the deal I was not happy so I could easily have said that.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Feb 16, 2012 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

I know. It’s just fun to think of you as a fanboi.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Feb 16, 2012 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

You will find out tomorrow at 06:00AM how much of a fanboy I am

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Feb 16, 2012 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Interesting mix
two old AA players who either figured some stuff out or simply beat up on younger pitchers and a young outfielder who was decent in Ogden but not dominating. With Baldwin / Pederson / Schebler all moving to the Loons, I certainly hope they have better success then Pederson / Landry / Garcia did.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Feb 16, 2012 1:24 PM PST reply actions  

I’m liking O’Sullivan

After declining to sign with the Giants

I’d wish for him to beat Vogelsong head-to-head, but I’m still rooting for RV to get knocked back to Japan before that could happen.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Feb 16, 2012 1:24 PM PST reply actions  

Smart enough to do that

not smart enough to pass classes at SDSU.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 16, 2012 4:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Hell, even GScott passed classes at a Cal State U. (More than one!)


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 16, 2012 4:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t know if I’d call what I did “passing”, but they gave me a piece of paper with my make in it and a job.

You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.

by G.Scott on Feb 16, 2012 5:11 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

with my make in it and a job.

the fuck is a make? white, male?

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena

by Maddz on Feb 16, 2012 8:55 PM PST up reply actions  

his hand was over one key

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Feb 16, 2012 9:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Scott Schebler is on Twitter…@scheb08

by Eric Stephen on Feb 16, 2012 1:29 PM PST reply actions  

attn: marty

I would if I actually knew what the proper name of whatever problem i’m trying to solve is, which is fairly rare. It does seem quite useful though.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Feb 16, 2012 1:30 PM PST reply actions  

Burnett to Pittsburgh

Sounding closer and closer

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 16, 2012 1:38 PM PST via iPhone app reply actions  

Did A.J. Burnett marry Javier Vasquez's wife?

AJB nixed a deal to the Angels for Abreu:

But the Angels were one of the teams on Burnett’s no-trade list, and reports out of New York said the enigmatic right-hander declined to move west because his wife is afraid of flying. The Yankees, according to various publications, are still trying to work out a deal with the Pirates.

Emphasis mine.

Cue Humma’s “he has the right to use his no-trade clause for whatever reason,” but that is fucking lame.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 16, 2012 1:40 PM PST reply actions  

Because she can take a trolley ride everywhere else.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Feb 16, 2012 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

extra lame

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Feb 16, 2012 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

seriously, who the F doesnt want to be here, but ok, whatever.

by uschris0304 on Feb 16, 2012 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Does she travel to all of his games or something? I mean, if they move to Anaheim, she could drive, it’s really not the end of the world.

by Michael White on Feb 16, 2012 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

They just signed a new lease in their apartment, and didn’t want to give up that security deposit.

Live in NY, fly to games. It’s science.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 16, 2012 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Wrecked it

It's gettin' so a businessman can't expect no return from a fixed fight. Now, if you can't trust a fix, what can you trust?

by mleadman on Feb 16, 2012 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I would not make her fly if she did not want to

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Feb 16, 2012 1:59 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I take back any objections

by Eric Stephen on Feb 16, 2012 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I guess AJ and his wife switched outfits for the picture.

by ishXdavid on Feb 16, 2012 4:06 PM PST up reply actions  

anyone afraid to fly also would be frightened by earthquakes, fires, and floods. Better she stay in NY where everyone is safe. Maybe they live in the Twin Towers.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Feb 16, 2012 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

That would be a neat trick, unless they are living in Ralph and Hakim

It's gettin' so a businessman can't expect no return from a fixed fight. Now, if you can't trust a fix, what can you trust?

by mleadman on Feb 16, 2012 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Which would be an even neater trick.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Feb 16, 2012 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

This is a fucked up comment.

by BFDC on Feb 16, 2012 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Yup

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by meercatjohn on Feb 16, 2012 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I think its been 24 hours now since Jon said Fuck, I miss it already.

by uschris0304 on Feb 16, 2012 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

A stone’s throw from Yankee Stadium, or PNC, or Rogers Centre…

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by Nolij on Feb 16, 2012 2:51 PM PST up reply actions  

She might take the train and stay in a hotel or have family on the East Coast. Who knows. It could be one those actual, seriously debilitating fears complete with panic attacks. Also, who cares, it’s AJ Burnett.

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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by Maddz on Feb 16, 2012 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

at various times in our lives I and a couple of family members have had fear of flying issues

and have not had same anxiety about quakes, fires and floods, so I will politely call bullshit on that statement. :)

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by underdog on Feb 16, 2012 3:44 PM PST up reply actions  

No kidding

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by meercatjohn on Feb 16, 2012 3:47 PM PST up reply actions  

hehe

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by underdog on Feb 16, 2012 5:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Truly one of the worst comments ever made here.

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by meercatjohn on Feb 16, 2012 5:03 PM PST up reply actions  

But by comment count

you are the best. This is a paradox

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by mleadman on Feb 16, 2012 5:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh... I don't know about that... ;)

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by underdog on Feb 16, 2012 5:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Speaking of Vazquez if he does not pitch this year I’m going to have a hard time remembering someone retiring after such a successful pitcher. He was brilliant in the 2nd half in 2011.

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by meercatjohn on Feb 16, 2012 1:54 PM PST reply actions  

Mike Mussina said, “I got my 20, I’m out”

by Eric Stephen on Feb 16, 2012 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Good call

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by meercatjohn on Feb 16, 2012 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Koufax is obviously the gold standard. Pettitte went 11-3 with a 3.28 ERA his last year too.

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by Nolij on Feb 16, 2012 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Rk Player WAR Year Tm Lg IP ERA ERA+
1 Sandy Koufax 10.8 1966 LAD NL 323.0 1.73 190
2 Adam Wainwright 5.9 2010 STL NL 230.1 2.42 161
3 Larry Jackson 4.8 1968 PHI NL 243.2 2.77 109
4 Johan Santana 4.4 2010 NYM NL 199.0 2.98 131
5 Mike Mussina 4.4 2008 NYY AL 200.1 3.37 132
6 Mike Sirotka 3.7 2000 CHW AL 197.0 3.79 133
7 Britt Burns 3.7 1985 CHW AL 227.0 3.96 109
8 Brian Holman 3.6 1991 SEA AL 195.1 3.69 112
9 Jeff Zimmerman 3.4 2001 TEX AL 71.1 2.40 197
10 Don Wilson 3.3 1974 HOU NL 204.2 3.08 113
11 Roger Bailey 3.2 1997 COL NL 191.0 4.29 121
12 Brian Matusz 3.1 2010 BAL AL 175.2 4.30 98
13 John Tudor 3.1 1990 STL NL 146.1 2.40 159
14 Curt Schilling 3.0 2007 BOS AL 151.0 3.87 123
15 Steve Olin 3.0 1992 CLE AL 88.1 2.34 169
16 Bob Tewksbury 2.9 1998 MIN AL 148.1 4.79 99
17 Andy Pettitte 2.8 2010 NYY AL 129.0 3.28 130
18 Tom Henke 2.8 1995 STL NL 54.1 1.82 231
19 J.R. Richard 2.8 1980 HOU NL 113.2 1.90 174
20 Billy Wagner 2.7 2010 ATL NL 69.1 1.43 275

Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Play Index Tool Used
Generated 2/16/2012.

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by regfairfield on Feb 16, 2012 2:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Nice, but Adam Wainwright and Johan Santana might be surprised to find out they are retired:)

Injuries ended most of these guys careers, even Sandy’s. I’m talking about a healthy pitcher simply walking away. Mussina and Pettite seem to be the best comp’s in recent time.

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by meercatjohn on Feb 16, 2012 2:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Is Santana expected to start the season in the rotation?

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by meercatjohn on Feb 16, 2012 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Also like that Matusz’s 2011 is so bad B-Ref refuses to acknowledge it.

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by regfairfield on Feb 16, 2012 2:15 PM PST up reply actions  

ha ha

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by meercatjohn on Feb 16, 2012 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I change my pick for the division winner in the NL Central this year. :)

by Eric Stephen on Feb 16, 2012 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Zimmerman, Olin and Henke were relievers too. Olin’s injury was a little more serious than the others’.

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by Nolij on Feb 16, 2012 2:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Don Wilson - sad

He may or may not have chosen to leave the game after that season.


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by David Young on Feb 16, 2012 4:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I forget his story, based on the sad, he died during the offseason?

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by meercatjohn on Feb 16, 2012 4:30 PM PST up reply actions  

I have no memory of a Don Wilson

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by mleadman on Feb 16, 2012 4:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Carbon monoxide poison from his running car in the garage.

Either a suicide or an accidental death, that also claimed his young son’s life. Unexplained how his wife suffered a broken jaw. Sad story no matter exactly where the truth lies.


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by David Young on Feb 16, 2012 4:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Yup

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by meercatjohn on Feb 16, 2012 4:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Wanted to post that, then forgot. Still wondering why a cat is a mascot of a called the Rays

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by meercatjohn on Feb 16, 2012 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

for the same reason the Angels used to use bears for mascots?

no wait they aren’t owned by disney

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by nolander on Feb 16, 2012 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Good thing they’ll have 8 more lives.

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by Nolij on Feb 16, 2012 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

my fave mascot

"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."

by Pure Azure on Feb 16, 2012 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Anyone that’s in a keeper league for fantasy have any recommendations for adding parity to the league? My league has totally separated into haves and have nots and it’s killing interest.

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by regfairfield on Feb 16, 2012 1:56 PM PST reply actions  

Murder the haves.

or just hire David Stern.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 16, 2012 1:57 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Remove the idiots

We ended up making teams who finish last every week pay into the kitty. Plus in a 21 team league any team who finishes in the last four spots only gets to keep four players instead of six.

We have also voted out several teams who are just bad year after year.

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by meercatjohn on Feb 16, 2012 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

We have also voted out several teams who are just bad year after year.

We do this, problem is they inherit the crappy team and no one really wants to rebuild a team whose best player is Dan Uggla.

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by regfairfield on Feb 16, 2012 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Then you have to many keepers. As BH said the best part of any league is the draft, if you simply keep your teams from year to year, anyone would lose interest because they it would be to hard to break into the core.

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by meercatjohn on Feb 16, 2012 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah it’s hard to deny. We’re up to ten keepers now. Maybe set a date when we cut a bunch of them then have an expansion draft for new teams.

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by regfairfield on Feb 16, 2012 2:05 PM PST up reply actions  

have a rule 5 draft.

You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.

by G.Scott on Feb 16, 2012 5:16 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

I was in a league like that

short of everyone agreeing to less keepers or blowing up the teams, it is pretty hard.

by bhsportsguy on Feb 16, 2012 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

The guy who has Heyward and Strasberg is issuing executive vetoes on it, and maybe that’s the problem is that we’re letting one man hold the league hostage.

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by regfairfield on Feb 16, 2012 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Right. I would say start fresh (particularly if people are inheriting crappy teams) and draft from scratch.

by Michael White on Feb 16, 2012 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

What are your keeper guidelines?

by Xeifrank on Feb 16, 2012 2:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Any two players you want.

Then if you control a guy during his rookie year

Three of them you can basically keep on the reserve clause (this is absolutely what’s causing the problem)
One you have on a two year contract
Two on a one year contract

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by regfairfield on Feb 16, 2012 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

That seems reasonable.

What we have done with new owners is allow them to pick their keepers from the players that the existing owners do not want to keep instead of inheriting a terrible team.

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by meercatjohn on Feb 16, 2012 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah we’re trying to implement that. Turn in one of your “any player you want” keepers for the first pick in the draft.

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by regfairfield on Feb 16, 2012 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

2 on a one year contract.
1 on a two year contract
3 on the reserve clause

  • Any two players you want.

what is the reserve clause? What do you mean by any two players you want? What is the length for them? This adds to 8? I thought you kept 10.

by Xeifrank on Feb 16, 2012 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Miscounted meant nine. Since you get one on a two year contract every year you have two 2 year deals active.

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by regfairfield on Feb 16, 2012 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Any players that were on your roster. Other than Pujols and Cabrera being on the same teams for a decade this really hasn’t been an issue surprisingly.

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by regfairfield on Feb 16, 2012 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

You can keep two players for as long as you want?

by Xeifrank on Feb 16, 2012 2:20 PM PST up reply actions  

There’s got to be some kind of penalty for keeping a player a long time.

by Xeifrank on Feb 16, 2012 2:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Most league have limits, for example any player purchased or picked up in 2012 could only be kept in 2013 and 2014 with 20% added to his purchase price for each year.

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by meercatjohn on Feb 16, 2012 2:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Not to many people want to play in a league where Pujols can be kept year after year. Not in a money league anyway.

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by meercatjohn on Feb 16, 2012 2:24 PM PST up reply actions  

I wouldn’t want to play for money if I couldn’t keep my guys from year to year.

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by Nolij on Feb 16, 2012 2:29 PM PST up reply actions  

You should be able to, but not for 10 years.

by Xeifrank on Feb 16, 2012 2:29 PM PST up reply actions  

The problem is that the guys who have Dan Uggla don’t want to play for money with the guys who have Pujols.

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by regfairfield on Feb 16, 2012 2:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Go get the Official Rotisserie League Book. Read the rules. They will tell you how many players you must keep, and how many you must put back into the pool.

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Feb 16, 2012 4:04 PM PST up reply actions  

is this an auction draft with salaries, or a snake draft w/o?

by Xeifrank on Feb 16, 2012 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Snake. If it was auction we could use expanding contracts to get guys off of teams but as it is there’s no way to gradually get a guy off of someones team.

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by regfairfield on Feb 16, 2012 2:24 PM PST up reply actions  

We use snake, and slot players in to the round they were drafted in for the most part. Draft Pujols in the 1st round in 2011 and if you keep him in 2012 he slots as your first round pick in 2012. There is a little more to it than this, but those are basically our snake keeper rules. There is a max limit on years you can keep a player. Big advantage for drafting a good player at the end of the draft, not so big for drafting at the top of the draft.

by Xeifrank on Feb 16, 2012 2:29 PM PST up reply actions  

I really like that and if I could start over I would go that route.

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by regfairfield on Feb 16, 2012 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Go get the Official Rotisserie League Book. Read the rules. They will tell you how many players you must keep, and how many you must put back into the pool. If you mess with the rules, you get situations like you obviously have.

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Feb 16, 2012 4:01 PM PST up reply actions  

eh, they weren’t gods, just a bunch of podunks who hit on a great idea for fun, but some tweaking never hurt anyone.

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by meercatjohn on Feb 16, 2012 4:02 PM PST up reply actions  

but it says its official

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by nolander on Feb 16, 2012 4:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Shit not gonna fuck with the Rotisserie gods any more.

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by regfairfield on Feb 16, 2012 4:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Sad news

Gary Carter has died, as reported by Rich Sandomir of the NY Times (per Carter’s daughter)

by Eric Stephen on Feb 16, 2012 1:58 PM PST reply actions  

RIP

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 16, 2012 2:02 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Always liked him, one of the reasons I became an Expo fan. He never should have made that movie with John Wayne

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by meercatjohn on Feb 16, 2012 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

See ya round, Kid.

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by Nolij on Feb 16, 2012 2:07 PM PST up reply actions  

RIP

"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."

by Pure Azure on Feb 16, 2012 2:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Is that a bounce back or simply getting to play in the Cal League?

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by meercatjohn on Feb 16, 2012 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Or turning a corner?

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by Nolij on Feb 16, 2012 2:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Good question, possibly just the latter, but with his speed and contact skills, I think he is due for a big BABIP uptick which will also boost his numbers considerably.

by BFDC on Feb 16, 2012 2:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Will be interesting.

Since moving to the Loons only Carlos Santana has struggled at that level and gone on to major league success. Players who have struggled like Trayvon, Van Slyke, and ERickson have all hit once they left but the jury is still out if they can hit major league pitching.

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by meercatjohn on Feb 16, 2012 2:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Kenley Jansen! ;-)

Great Lakes has been the Dodgers low-A for five full seasons now. How many players would we have expected to have “major league success” by now? Trayvon Robinson played there in 2007, for example, as a 19-year old.


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by David Young on Feb 16, 2012 4:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Guys who are currently 25 but still in AA:)

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by meercatjohn on Feb 16, 2012 4:34 PM PST up reply actions  

I've tried not to sour on him since I liked him his first year

but he sure did stink last year. But yeah, could still bounce back this year. Team could certainly use more OF depth in the system…

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by underdog on Feb 16, 2012 5:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Once the deal is finally done, the Pirates will pay between $12 and $15 million for two years of A.J. Burnett, per ESPN NY.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 16, 2012 2:38 PM PST reply actions  

That’ll pay for the breast reduction procedure

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by mleadman on Feb 16, 2012 2:42 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Pirates being the Pirates

I think he’s done

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by Pure Azure on Feb 16, 2012 2:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Never thought I’d say this but I’d rather have Bruce Chen than Burnett.

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by regfairfield on Feb 16, 2012 3:10 PM PST up reply actions  

both siera and x-fip think he was unlucky last year

so its certainly possible. I would have liked it for the angels, they have enough OFs as it is.

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by nolander on Feb 16, 2012 3:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah Burnett still has some upside and ultimately it’s an insignificant difference between Chen and Burnett, so go hogwild.

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by regfairfield on Feb 16, 2012 3:14 PM PST up reply actions  

aye

I’m really just not comfortable with their pitching depth. Their big 4 better stay healthy…

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by nolander on Feb 16, 2012 3:15 PM PST up reply actions  

The same thinking made me bet the under on the Phillies last year. The Phillies didn’t add Pujols.

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by regfairfield on Feb 16, 2012 3:39 PM PST up reply actions  

true

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by nolander on Feb 16, 2012 3:52 PM PST up reply actions  

and the even Wells season:)

Bet they add David Wright before all is said and done.

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by meercatjohn on Feb 16, 2012 3:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Not so sure

I think I bet Bobby that Callaspo isn’t much worse then Wright next year. I think i have a 1/4 chance of winning that.

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by nolander on Feb 16, 2012 3:56 PM PST up reply actions  

More like 4%

What was your criteria for determining the outcome of the bet?

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by meercatjohn on Feb 16, 2012 4:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't think we ever decided

but we would have to use some sort of war I guess since part of my argument is Callaspo’s defensive value is what would push him past Wright.

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by nolander on Feb 16, 2012 4:02 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s fine with me, I like fWAR better than bWAR, but IDK what you think about it.

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by Ivdown on Feb 16, 2012 4:09 PM PST up reply actions  

UZR doesn’t?


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by David Young on Feb 16, 2012 4:34 PM PST up reply actions  

its all relative

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by nolander on Feb 16, 2012 4:40 PM PST up reply actions  

But I have no relatives in MLB!

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by iiidown on Feb 16, 2012 5:11 PM PST up reply actions  

that seems like a personal problem

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by nolander on Feb 16, 2012 5:12 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I am so ashamed.

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by iiidown on Feb 16, 2012 5:18 PM PST up reply actions  

My closest contact

with the major leagues is playing little league with a future MLBer and a friend’s dad worked with Jaime Jarrin in the 70s and 80s

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by mleadman on Feb 16, 2012 5:20 PM PST up reply actions  

gary saw how tall my brother was (6'4")

and demanded to know if I had any relatives that were left handed. Apparently I am destined to pop out a tall lefty.

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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by Maddz on Feb 16, 2012 8:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Your sister had a thing for Chris Reed, right? Just pick him up as an in-law and relax.

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by Nolij on Feb 16, 2012 9:07 PM PST up reply actions  

if by chance he’s at spring training i am going to mention my sister by name to him and see what happens, if i am so lucky

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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by Maddz on Feb 16, 2012 9:08 PM PST up reply actions  

sure did

I’ve gotta keep track of these bets. I know I’ve got this and Uribe with Humma, but I feel like there’s one I’m missing.

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by Ivdown on Feb 16, 2012 4:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Has anyone bet you yet that you will like every movie you see this year?

I want a piece of that one.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 16, 2012 4:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Or every prospect

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by meercatjohn on Feb 16, 2012 4:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Guaranteed

I will see at least a handful of stupid chick flicks I won’t like :)

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by Ivdown on Feb 16, 2012 6:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Weird little rotation
Bedard, Burnett , McDonald, Morton
with Karstens, Correia fight for last spot.

Over under on Bedard starts 13?

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by meercatjohn on Feb 16, 2012 3:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Fantasy Football 2012

My current top 5:

1) Arian Foster
2) Calvin Johnson
3) Ray Rice
4) Cam Newton
5) Aaron Rodgers

I suppose you could slot Brees in there and he’ll give you another 5000 passing yards and 40 TDs, but I like Newton and Rodgers for their rushing ability.

by silverwidow on Feb 16, 2012 2:54 PM PST reply actions  

Take it to the six months from now thread.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 16, 2012 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Death is but a door, time is but a window, silverwidow will be back!

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by nolander on Feb 16, 2012 2:56 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm thinking foster gets the tag

but they may give him the non exclusive one that would net them two first rounders

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by nolander on Feb 16, 2012 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

If Foster somehow leaves Houston, there’s no chance he’s my #1. Elite talent, but that system is letter perfect for him.

by silverwidow on Feb 16, 2012 2:57 PM PST up reply actions  

and he is a smart enough guy to know that

but as a RB you really only get one chance to get paid. If someone offers him CJ or AP money… love ya man but adious

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by nolander on Feb 16, 2012 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

depends what team he goes to I guess, but good players are good anywhere for the most part, unless he went to a really shitty team with a horrible O line…. I mean, the guy was ballin with no QB, and what? Kevin Walters as the top WR? and he was still putting up numbers. He’s still top 5 with or without the Texans.

by uschris0304 on Feb 16, 2012 3:18 PM PST up reply actions  

We have one of the best lines in football and Owen Daniels would be our top reciever after AJ

And in football scheme very much matters. He isn’t a power running back, but one that thrives on his ability to make cuts in the zone blocking scheme, and in being a great receiver on top of it. Not all offenses(I think most don’t though more have been moving to it) run a zbs, and not all user their RBs as receivers as much as Houston.

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by nolander on Feb 16, 2012 3:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Rankings sort of matter on what the scoring system is no??

by uschris0304 on Feb 16, 2012 3:01 PM PST up reply actions  

plus IMO I like getting RBs and WRs before QBs, I probably would never draft a QB in 1st round most likely.

by uschris0304 on Feb 16, 2012 3:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I won my league this year, primarily because of my #1 pick Aaron Rodgers.

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by Nolij on Feb 16, 2012 3:08 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m going all out for Calvin and Stafford again. That combo will win so many leagues it’s sick.

by silverwidow on Feb 16, 2012 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

if either of them get injured you are then boned though

gotta spread the love

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by nolander on Feb 16, 2012 3:10 PM PST up reply actions  

well, like I said I guess depends on scoring format, and how many teams in league.

by uschris0304 on Feb 16, 2012 3:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Definitely. I’ve never played in a PPR, so these are just standard rankings. Calvin is the most dominant talent in the NFL in my opinion and I’m tempted to put him first.

by silverwidow on Feb 16, 2012 3:03 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah I play PPR, so Calvin would be a top 5 pick forsure…. RBs that catch the ball also very valuable.

by uschris0304 on Feb 16, 2012 3:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Tommy Lasorda on Gary Carter
"Gary Carter played for me with so much respect and enthusiasm for the game he loved. He was a Hall of Famer as a player and as a man. On behalf of the entire Dodger organization, we love him and will miss him."

by Eric Stephen on Feb 16, 2012 3:21 PM PST reply actions  

Sorry he's gone

but I won’t miss that perm

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by mleadman on Feb 16, 2012 3:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Rest In Peace to Culver City and Fullerton's own Gary Carter

Nice story about Gary Carter in LAT

Gary Carter’s mom died when he was 12, her memory was always on his mind

“She is like this bird on my shoulder. When it comes to the final judgment day, I want to see her again. I want to be reunited with her in heaven.”

by bhsportsguy on Feb 16, 2012 3:23 PM PST reply actions  

I am very sad about Carter

always liked him, and remember that he was a Dodger for a time and of course a Met but will still always think of him as an Expo. Wonder if the Nationals will wear black patches in his honor this season?

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by underdog on Feb 16, 2012 3:46 PM PST up reply actions  

yes!

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by nolander on Feb 16, 2012 3:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Dave is already overqualified for a job at the New York Post.

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by regfairfield on Feb 16, 2012 4:00 PM PST up reply actions  

My qualifications as a writer are now better documented than Joshua Macciello’s as an owner. ;-)


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by David Young on Feb 16, 2012 4:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I remember when The Daily Breeze

Ran a story on the increase in the Asian population in the South Bay and headlined it
ASIAN INVASION

We had to have a series of meetings with the community to prove we weren’t racist. Just clueless

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by mleadman on Feb 16, 2012 4:23 PM PST up reply actions  

never attribute to malice

what you can attribute to stupid white people

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by nolander on Feb 16, 2012 4:24 PM PST up reply actions  

why they gotta be white people??

by uschris0304 on Feb 16, 2012 4:25 PM PST up reply actions  

because only white people can be racist in America

duh chris

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by nolander on Feb 16, 2012 4:26 PM PST up reply actions  

HITNG

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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by Maddz on Feb 16, 2012 8:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Heh

I see the byline on that article is “Pandora Young”. Maybe she thinks there’s a connection. (No relation.)


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by David Young on Feb 16, 2012 4:14 PM PST up reply actions  

you quipsters you!

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by underdog on Feb 16, 2012 5:03 PM PST up reply actions  

BTW, seeing me sandwiched between Jon Weisman and Dennis Romero as a “local journo” is really bizarre.


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by David Young on Feb 16, 2012 6:55 PM PST up reply actions  

where does the Hollywood Reporter stand amongst entertainment magazines?

by Josie Becker on Feb 16, 2012 7:03 PM PST up reply actions  

If you have to ask

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by nolander on Feb 16, 2012 7:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Brandon Inge is moving to second base. All MLB teams can use a guy like Inge

by Michael White on Feb 16, 2012 4:04 PM PST reply actions  

but blake dewitt just got cut

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by nolander on Feb 16, 2012 4:05 PM PST up reply actions  

What about Hairston?

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by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 16, 2012 4:08 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

In his prime Inge was like a 3-4 WAR guy. Even as recently as 2010 Inge put up an fWAR of 2.1.

by Michael White on Feb 16, 2012 4:10 PM PST up reply actions  

I tell you what. You build a team made of guys whose WAR is basically 75% defense and I’ll build a team whose WAR is basically 75% offense and in the end we will kick the living crap out of the defensive hoo hoo’s.

/havenoideaifthisistrueornot

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by meercatjohn on Feb 16, 2012 4:17 PM PST up reply actions  

It’d be a bad offense versus a good defense.

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by regfairfield on Feb 16, 2012 4:18 PM PST up reply actions  

8 Dunn’s against 8 Hanrahans. I win

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by meercatjohn on Feb 16, 2012 4:18 PM PST up reply actions  

The fans lose.

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by regfairfield on Feb 16, 2012 4:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Do they? that would be one entertaining game

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by meercatjohn on Feb 16, 2012 4:20 PM PST up reply actions  

At least when Dunn was on defense.

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by regfairfield on Feb 16, 2012 4:22 PM PST up reply actions  

give em a statue

They’ll be happy

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by mleadman on Feb 16, 2012 4:20 PM PST up reply actions  

the hanrahan team will win 100 to 0

the dunn’s will be so tired from all the errors they made all over the diamond they won’t be able to hit squat

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by nolander on Feb 16, 2012 4:20 PM PST up reply actions  

i agree meercat

Defense is way overrated in baseball.

by Joey Joe on Feb 16, 2012 9:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I have no faith that moving a 34-year old ex-catcher 3B to second base is going to work, especially since he’s never logged a single inning their in professional ball. If they try it full time, I expect seriously negative defensive WAR.


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by David Young on Feb 16, 2012 4:39 PM PST up reply actions  

but he also used to play CF!

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by nolander on Feb 16, 2012 4:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Describing Inge as an ex-catcher is crazy. He’s played all around the diamond and was one of the best defensive third baseman I’ve ever seen.

by Michael White on Feb 16, 2012 4:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Seems to me the skill set to be a successful 3rd baseman does not automatically equate to second base. Still he’s just like Uribe, a guy who once had value who was just about the worst player in baseball in 2011 at age 34.

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by meercatjohn on Feb 16, 2012 4:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Crazy my ass

In the minors he played one game in the OF and all others at C, not including rehab stints. He moved to 3B at age 27 in the majors after playing 277 games at C. He’s played a whopping 41 games in the OF. I stand by ex-catcher. Moving to 2B from 3B is hard with a somewhat different skill set. There is no comp at 3B for being the middle man in the DP. And he’s 34.


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by David Young on Feb 16, 2012 4:51 PM PST up reply actions  

He played 5,000 more innings at third base than catcher. The fact that he switched to third base at 27 and still managed to put up a career UZR at third of 38.6 speaks to his overall athleticism and defensive flexibility.

by Michael White on Feb 16, 2012 4:57 PM PST up reply actions  

It wouldn’t at all shock me if Inge was decent at second.

Now why you’d want a guy who needed a hot streak to end the year at .197 is another story.

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by regfairfield on Feb 16, 2012 4:58 PM PST up reply actions  

because the other options are Rayburn, Santiago, Patterson, and Worth.

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by meercatjohn on Feb 16, 2012 5:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Can’t Ned trade them someone?


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by David Young on Feb 16, 2012 5:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Sadly all four of those are better then Adam Kennedy

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by meercatjohn on Feb 16, 2012 5:01 PM PST up reply actions  

The other obvious solution is to DH Cabrera and put Inge at third. Inge at second is only happening because of several other bad ideas.

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by regfairfield on Feb 16, 2012 5:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I am very much looking forward to the svelte Miggy playing 3rd base for around 100 games. If you need to do it 2013 when Victor has to DH, you might as well go hard at it in 2012.

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by meercatjohn on Feb 16, 2012 5:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m even going to become a Tiger fan simply because of this move.

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by meercatjohn on Feb 16, 2012 5:04 PM PST up reply actions  

To go from C to 3B, which many players have done, e.g., Joe Torre. How many players have successfully moved for 3B to 2B in their 30s and been a plus 2B?


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by David Young on Feb 16, 2012 4:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Defensively, both those positions are about initial quickness and reactions. That is not how I would describe 2B.


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by David Young on Feb 16, 2012 5:00 PM PST up reply actions  

We should be finding out soon if someone (us?) claimed him.

by silverwidow on Feb 16, 2012 4:14 PM PST up reply actions  

We’ll be finding out soon that Blake DeWitt is headed to Iowa.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 16, 2012 4:17 PM PST up reply actions  

That would really shock me

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by meercatjohn on Feb 16, 2012 4:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Money quote

“Hiring out here is hard”

It’s incredibly hard!

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by mleadman on Feb 16, 2012 4:12 PM PST reply actions  

reply fail

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by mleadman on Feb 16, 2012 4:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey Brandon

Now that we’re into a section where this applies, maybe your player synopsis could also include the prospect’s ranking in the TBLA vote? Just a thought.


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by David Young on Feb 16, 2012 4:15 PM PST reply actions  

Sure MR Big Shot, get quoted now you are all about telling the other moderators how to write.

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by meercatjohn on Feb 16, 2012 4:17 PM PST up reply actions  

I could probably figure it out by looking at other lists but

can anyone name the three players that made Brandon’s top 20 and not TBLA’s Top 20.

TBLA Top 20 vs. Brandon’s Top 20

Van Slyke 14th – 25th
Castellanos 17th – 24th
Erickson – 19th – 22nd

by bhsportsguy on Feb 16, 2012 4:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Ames? just a wild ass guess

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by nolander on Feb 16, 2012 4:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Neither

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by meercatjohn on Feb 16, 2012 4:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I was wondering, then got sidetracked

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by meercatjohn on Feb 16, 2012 4:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Looks like Aaron Miller for one

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by meercatjohn on Feb 16, 2012 4:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Number 54

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by meercatjohn on Feb 16, 2012 4:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Is he counting Lindblom and Guerra?

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by regfairfield on Feb 16, 2012 4:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Number 57

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by meercatjohn on Feb 16, 2012 4:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Guerra

had over 30 appearances so he is out. Lindblom would be eligible.

by bhsportsguy on Feb 16, 2012 4:39 PM PST up reply actions  

So Lindblom and Aaron Miller

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by meercatjohn on Feb 16, 2012 4:40 PM PST up reply actions  

So who’s the third?


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by David Young on Feb 16, 2012 4:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Beats me

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by meercatjohn on Feb 16, 2012 4:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Kyle Russell?


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by David Young on Feb 16, 2012 5:00 PM PST up reply actions  

By Joe, I think you nailed it

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by meercatjohn on Feb 16, 2012 5:01 PM PST up reply actions  

That's right

You know I saw him on Brandon’s 2011 list and thought he was part of the TBLA list. I knew it wasn’t someone drafted in 2011 (outside of Reed).

Good job.

by bhsportsguy on Feb 16, 2012 5:03 PM PST up reply actions  

I also just assumed he’d made the TBLA top 20

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by meercatjohn on Feb 16, 2012 5:05 PM PST up reply actions  

they will learn

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by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 16, 2012 8:15 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Heh


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by David Young on Feb 16, 2012 4:53 PM PST up reply actions  

seems like a good idea

I made the changes above and will do that from here on out

also, you guys nailed who i included in my top 20 that TBLA didn’t

by Brandon Lennox on Feb 16, 2012 6:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Brandon's comment before he started posting his prospect list
I’m going to provide a summary of virtually every player in the Dodgers minor league system who meets the following qualifications: (1) is within the Dodgers organization as of December 14, 2011; (2) is under 28 years old as of Opening Day 2012; and (3) is still considered a prospect by Baseball America standards, which means that pitchers must have less than 50 innings pitched (or 30 appearances) in the majors, and hitters must have less than 130 at bats in the majors. Like Baseball America, I do not take into account service time, and therefore it is possible that I have included prospects who will not technically be rookies in 2012.

by bhsportsguy on Feb 16, 2012 4:32 PM PST reply actions  

TBLA vote used rookie status, so that ruled out Lindblom (and Guerra).


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by David Young on Feb 16, 2012 4:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Guerra had something like

47appearances so he should not be eligible.

by bhsportsguy on Feb 16, 2012 4:43 PM PST up reply actions  

And he wasn’t. Too much service time.


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by David Young on Feb 16, 2012 4:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Okay

It would be a good guess to say that Aaron Miller and Josh Lindblom would be part of Brandon’s Top 20/

by bhsportsguy on Feb 16, 2012 4:40 PM PST reply actions  

I’ll likely be going to UCI’s first baseball home game on Feb. 20th.

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by Tripon on Feb 16, 2012 5:03 PM PST reply actions  

who we playin?

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by nolander on Feb 16, 2012 5:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Big West is gonna be excellent again

even UCSB is supposed to be better this season.

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by underdog on Feb 16, 2012 5:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Was at the home depot center

as the president and his helicopter-cade flew over. Very cool. But then we also saw the plane being escorted by jets because he flew in Obama’s restricted airspace. A little biplane. Had a fair amount of marijuana on board.

by Josie Becker on Feb 16, 2012 5:07 PM PST reply actions  

Of the things I would advise against doing, flying in Presidential air space is near the top, especially with drugs on board.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 16, 2012 5:16 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s really frowned upon

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by mleadman on Feb 16, 2012 5:18 PM PST up reply actions  

It falls under the realm of Free Colonoscopy, I believe

by Eric Stephen on Feb 16, 2012 5:19 PM PST up reply actions  

No colonoscopy references, if you don’t mind.

by KellyStephen on Feb 16, 2012 9:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Speaking of which, how was the carpeting in the back of that van last week?

by Eric Stephen on Feb 16, 2012 9:11 PM PST up reply actions  

That 2-minute scene or so make me almost cry laughing every time.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 16, 2012 5:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Why would you take your weed on a biplane.

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by regfairfield on Feb 16, 2012 5:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Or at least why would you need to take a lot of weed on a biplane.

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by regfairfield on Feb 16, 2012 5:24 PM PST up reply actions  

There's an obvious answer

It's gettin' so a businessman can't expect no return from a fixed fight. Now, if you can't trust a fix, what can you trust?

by mleadman on Feb 16, 2012 5:26 PM PST up reply actions  

He heard people liked getting high

so he put weed in his biplane so he could get high while he got high?

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by nolander on Feb 16, 2012 5:27 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Hah I was right.

There has to be a better way to smuggle drugs than that.

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by regfairfield on Feb 16, 2012 5:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I think they were fine until they got too high to realize the president was flying out today

by Josie Becker on Feb 16, 2012 5:32 PM PST up reply actions  

shit, it was probably Obama’s weed, to bring back to the house… what you think he is in Cali for??

by uschris0304 on Feb 16, 2012 6:26 PM PST up reply actions  

I assume you’re aware just how much week 40 pounds is, and the popular recreational habits of the Hawthorne/South LA area

by Josie Becker on Feb 16, 2012 6:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I'll be honest

I don’t see the point of smuggling in weed like that if there are DISPENSARIES

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by Maddz on Feb 16, 2012 9:01 PM PST up reply actions  

they’ve been saying that forever, but I haven’t heard anything from my friends who care for such things.

We should probably stop now before we through up the 4down signal

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by Maddz on Feb 16, 2012 9:06 PM PST up reply actions  

hey dawg

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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by Maddz on Feb 16, 2012 9:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I guess I’m envisioning a tremendous amount of weed when a fair amount would be more appropriate.

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by regfairfield on Feb 16, 2012 5:30 PM PST up reply actions  

OT -

Have you been to the revised Killer Shrimp

by bhsportsguy on Feb 16, 2012 5:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes, several times. Great location, great bar, sadly only thing I’ve really enjoyed off the menu is the killer shrimp.

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by regfairfield on Feb 16, 2012 5:28 PM PST up reply actions  

To get the courage up to wing walk.


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by David Young on Feb 16, 2012 5:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Greedy cable executives at it again, plan to charge outrageous sums to stream March Madness!

The price of streaming March Madness this year has gone up from free to 3.99 for the whole tournament, and increase of infity, gadzooks!

http://www.adweek.com/news/television/turner-cbs-say-college-hoops-fans-must-pay-somehow-138339

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by nolander on Feb 16, 2012 5:29 PM PST reply actions  

If you are a cable subscriber watching on a desktop computer, you won’t have to pay. And if you’re watching a game on a desktop computer that’s on CBS in your area, you won’t have to pay.

by JonWeisman on Feb 16, 2012 5:33 PM PST up reply actions  

either way 4 dollars is a great deal

I’m surprised they aren’t charging more.

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by nolander on Feb 16, 2012 5:34 PM PST up reply actions  

I still dont have TruTV HD… there will be games on there again this year right?

by uschris0304 on Feb 16, 2012 6:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Sarcasm

since that is just the price of 4 chili dogs

by bhsportsguy on Feb 16, 2012 5:31 PM PST reply actions  

yet

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by nolander on Feb 16, 2012 5:35 PM PST up reply actions  

new owners might suck
Those sources also revealed that none of the investors are particularly happy with the Dodgers’ eight year, $160 million, back loaded signing of Matt Kemp, and the two year, $19 million contract to Clayton Kershaw.

“Who with the Dodgers is giving out those kinds of contracts at this point?” said one of the sources. “I mean, two years to Kershaw when you are not buying out free agency or arbitration? That’s almost as much as (two time Cy Young Award winner) Tim Lincicum got from the Giants.”

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by nolander on Feb 16, 2012 5:37 PM PST reply actions  

link

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by nolander on Feb 16, 2012 5:37 PM PST up reply actions  

you don’t follow @dodgerthoughts?

by Eric Stephen on Feb 16, 2012 5:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I completely changed my twitter account

and that one seems to have slipped through the cracks

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by nolander on Feb 16, 2012 5:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Hopefully they hire baseball people that know more than they do.

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by regfairfield on Feb 16, 2012 5:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Otherwise, it will be Desolation Row at Chavez Ravine for awhile.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 16, 2012 5:39 PM PST up reply actions  

At least Cinderella will be there sweeping up! :)

by silverwidow on Feb 16, 2012 5:46 PM PST up reply actions  

So I’m gonna guess that particular source is Fred Claire.


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by David Young on Feb 16, 2012 5:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I respect Mr. Newhan and all, but does he really have enough credible sources to say that ALL the investors are unhappy with those deals?


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by David Young on Feb 16, 2012 5:50 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL


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by David Young on Feb 16, 2012 5:54 PM PST up reply actions  

If this is true…maybe all the groups are totally motivated to buy the Dodgers on financial grounds only (ie – a great long term investment with exponentially growing TV contracts). Perhaps they are all devoid of that love of the game and passion to see the Dodgers win that many of us assumed would be there in new ownership. This thought depresses me.

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by latenite on Feb 16, 2012 6:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Don't kid yourself

People that are investing over $1billion in something have “financial grounds” as their #1 concern. As they should. Each bidder is an investment group, after all, and investors are looking for a return.


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by David Young on Feb 16, 2012 6:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Correct – but you can still have a group with a Nolan Ryan-type involved – someone who also wants to win! The Rangers actions the past couple of years have NOT been totally financially motivated moves – they want to win the World Series, and they are serious about doing what they need to do to put themselves in the best position to do it.

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by latenite on Feb 16, 2012 6:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Winning a World Series in the Dallas area sounds like a moneymaker to me. Sure it’s football country, but Dallas loves winners and has spending money for luxury boxes and the like.


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by David Young on Feb 16, 2012 6:57 PM PST up reply actions  

key point

They did not spend this amount of money for a franchise

by bhsportsguy on Feb 16, 2012 7:21 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

I don’t see how that really is a key point. If the Dodgers sell for 3 times what the Rangers sold for, from a business point of view I would expect to invest a lot further to keep the franchise value high, and growing. Otherwise, over time it might develop that the Dodgers sold for a lot more than what future evaluations would justify.

Plus, the Angels are now huge competitors in the market. The new ownership needs to be assertively aggressive in re-establishing the Dodger brand, otherwise, eventually the Dodgers will be the also-rans in Los Angeles. In my opinion, at least. I’ve been a Dodger fan for 50 years, and I see this as the most crucial time for the team ever. I pray for new ownership with “deep pockets” – not in the Yankee style, but more in the Red Sox sense of not being afraid to make the moves that should produce a winner.

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by latenite on Feb 16, 2012 7:57 PM PST up reply actions  

its fake… source cant even spell Lincecum right.

by uschris0304 on Feb 16, 2012 6:04 PM PST up reply actions  

That would be Ross Newhan’s doing, not the source’s. Unless the source e-mailed it (not likely – I’d imagine anonymous sources deal with phones only) and Ross just copied and pasted it.


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by David Young on Feb 16, 2012 6:14 PM PST up reply actions  

He has half the Cy Youngs, he should make half as much money.

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by Nolij on Feb 16, 2012 9:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I can’t.

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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by Maddz on Feb 16, 2012 9:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Thoughts - Yes this appeared last night on MSG

Personally, I think it was ill advised, stupid but inoffensive.

by bhsportsguy on Feb 16, 2012 6:17 PM PST reply actions  

Linoffensive?

But, no, it is pretty offensive.

by fbihop on Feb 16, 2012 6:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I find it inoffensive. Fortune cookies are not a stereotype, or at least not one the Chinese-American community finds offensive. Tons of Chinese restaurants still give them out after lunch or dinner.


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by David Young on Feb 16, 2012 6:53 PM PST up reply actions  

it’s a weird grey area. Would Fernando Valenzuela coming out of a taco be racist? Shaq coming out of a piece of watermelon?

It’s not that the food item is stereotypical, it’s the idea that a single food item is enough to stand in for an entire racial group.

by Josie Becker on Feb 16, 2012 7:05 PM PST up reply actions  

But I like watermelon!

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Feb 16, 2012 7:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Is it true that people put salt and other spices on watermelon?

I heard this the other day and it seems so crazy!

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by nolander on Feb 16, 2012 7:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't eat watermelon

But yes, it is true.


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by David Young on Feb 16, 2012 7:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I put rum and Sangria IN a watermelon.

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Feb 16, 2012 7:22 PM PST up reply actions  

well thats different

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by nolander on Feb 16, 2012 7:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Because you are the man!


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by David Young on Feb 16, 2012 7:30 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

people put feta cheese on watermelon

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by Maddz on Feb 16, 2012 9:03 PM PST up reply actions  

it’s apparently a hugely popular thing to do in the middle east.

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by Maddz on Feb 16, 2012 9:07 PM PST up reply actions  

HITNG

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by nolander on Feb 16, 2012 9:27 PM PST up reply actions  

That sounds really bad, not to mention difficult to do. Watermelon is sorta slick and the cheese would fall off.

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Feb 16, 2012 9:48 PM PST up reply actions  

If you do that, and have Steve Nash jumping out of some waldorf salad it’s cool.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 16, 2012 7:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Kevin Love, maybe

Steve Nash needs to jump out of a poutine plate, or a heap of back bacon.


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by David Young on Feb 16, 2012 7:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Tacos are cultural, fortune cookies have become cultural, watermelon is solely a stereotype, is it not?

Josie fact: the largest producer of watermelon in the world is China.


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by David Young on Feb 16, 2012 7:30 PM PST up reply actions  

See saying watermelon is stereotypical is like saying peanut butter and jelly sandwiches are stereotypical of white people.

Watermelon is stereotypical when eaten by a sambo doll looking cartoon character with big ass lips

by Josie Becker on Feb 16, 2012 7:32 PM PST up reply actions  

The watermelon in China all has seeds in it. They haven’t seemed to have imported the seedless watermelon yet. To me that is a show stopper. What kind of show, I am not sure. The word for watermelon in Chinese is xigua (xi = west, gua = melon) and yes they have an east, north and south melon.

by Xeifrank on Feb 16, 2012 8:12 PM PST up reply actions  

If there are no seeds, what does one spit?


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by David Young on Feb 16, 2012 8:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Just noticed a statement from Nationals manager Davey Johnson on the passing of Gary Carter, and it struck me that Johnson is managing again.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 16, 2012 6:18 PM PST reply actions  

Jay Jaffe retweeted a link to SNY phone interview

with Keith Hernandez and Keith is pretty broken up by the whole thing.

by bhsportsguy on Feb 16, 2012 6:20 PM PST up reply actions  

The questions they were asking were pretty terrible.

by fbihop on Feb 16, 2012 6:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Did you know

Seinfeld is still in the top 25 (neilson ratings) syndicated shows on TV. Judge Judy, Big Bang Theory, and Wheel of Fortune are all tied for #1.

by Josie Becker on Feb 16, 2012 7:30 PM PST reply actions  

That’s pretty…pretty…pretty good!

Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent.

by latenite on Feb 16, 2012 7:58 PM PST up reply actions  

You mean The Dick Van Dyke Show?


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by David Young on Feb 16, 2012 8:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Sure. Anything but today’s crap! :)

by Xeifrank on Feb 16, 2012 8:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Great remembrance of Fullerton native Gary Carter by Fullerton native Chris Dufresne at the LA Times

by Eric Stephen on Feb 16, 2012 7:55 PM PST reply actions  

Ned's head

looks fake too.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 16, 2012 7:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Or

Which one has the faker mane?


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by David Young on Feb 16, 2012 8:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Matt Kemp's number reversed

Bailey’s in human mode?


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by David Young on Feb 16, 2012 8:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I was told that was his Matt Kemp HR+SB projection.

by Xeifrank on Feb 16, 2012 8:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Clip City

Clippers having a tough time of it early against the Blazers. Does it really say “Rip City” on the Blazers uniform???? I saw the Hawks had “ATL” on theirs the other night and I remember the Hornets having something like “NOR” on theirs. Why?

by Xeifrank on Feb 16, 2012 8:28 PM PST reply actions  

$$$

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by nolander on Feb 16, 2012 8:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ve seen NOLA, the common abbreviation for New Orleans, Louisiana on their jerseys. Are you sure it wasn’t NOH?

Occasionally the Suns wear PHX jerseys.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 16, 2012 8:48 PM PST up reply actions  

MPLS

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Feb 16, 2012 9:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Parks and Rec was so great tonight.

Also, I miss Community greatly.

by fbihop on Feb 16, 2012 8:56 PM PST reply actions  

I will have cable again next week. Stoked.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 16, 2012 9:01 PM PST up reply actions  

TBLA chopped

hi guys, i have two t-bone steaks that I am cooking tomorrow. what’s a good red wine to pair it with?

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by Maddz on Feb 16, 2012 9:08 PM PST reply actions  

hiyo!

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by Maddz on Feb 16, 2012 9:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Always my Red of choice :)

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Feb 16, 2012 9:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Depends on how much money you would like to spend.

by KellyStephen on Feb 16, 2012 9:11 PM PST up reply actions  

And, also, how you intend to prepare said “t-bones” (which, technically, isn’t really a cut of beef. I assume you’re talking about a bone-in New York or rib-eye?).

by KellyStephen on Feb 16, 2012 9:13 PM PST up reply actions  

I believe it’s bone-in rib eye. I was planning on doing it in a cast iron…wrong move?

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by Maddz on Feb 16, 2012 9:13 PM PST up reply actions  

I prefer a grill but some folks really like a cast iron…I won’t cast dispersions. I’d recommend a rub of salt, pepper, garlic (or garlic powder), and fresh chopped rosemary. Put that on an hour or two prior to cooking, then leave it out. You want to make sure the steak is at room temperature before you throw it on the pan.

(I make my own “steak sauce” by just throwing stuff into a small bowl and whisking. Try a combo of worchestire, ketchup, brown sugar, srirachi or other hot sauce, garlic, a pinch of salt and pepper.)

by KellyStephen on Feb 16, 2012 9:30 PM PST up reply actions  

aren't you not supposed to put the salt on so soon before?

won’t it dry it out?

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by nolander on Feb 16, 2012 9:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ve never found that to be true within that time frame. In fact, I typically put a rub including salt on my ribs and my cross rib roasts 24 hours ahead of time and never been accused of serving a dry meat (unless I overcook it).

by KellyStephen on Feb 16, 2012 9:35 PM PST up reply actions  

But, to note, I don’t use a ton of salt either.

by KellyStephen on Feb 16, 2012 9:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Kelly

Giving good advice. See the link re how to test for doneness.

http://lifehacker.com/267250/determine-the-doneness-of-a-steak?tag=softwaregrilling

If possible, I would sear on both sides and then finish it in the oven. Let steaks rest 5 minutes (also meat will keep cooking while resting so don’t wait until the steak is done to remove from an)

by bhsportsguy on Feb 16, 2012 10:12 PM PST up reply actions  

right on. :)

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by Maddz on Feb 16, 2012 10:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Let’s make it classy

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena

by Maddz on Feb 16, 2012 9:13 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m not a wine conniseur by any means. If you want to go big time, go with a Silver Oak Cab, but that will run you $70-80. I’d recommend a cab or merlot, for less than $25 you can get something decent; I’ve always had good luck from Mondavi or BV. Clos du bois is cheap but I find it tastey. Again, i’m not a wine-o so I’m sure others can do a better job guiding you.

by KellyStephen on Feb 16, 2012 9:33 PM PST up reply actions  

no worries, i appreciate it. :)

this is kind of my take on valentine’s since tomorrow is when i have the evening free. cooking dinner and then taking g to an improv show. his present for me was dinner, beer, and a clean apartment (BEST GIFT EVER)

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
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by Maddz on Feb 16, 2012 10:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Any good big red will do

I liked a big Syrah with steak, or a good blend. Spend 20-30 dollars and you’ll be happy

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by mleadman on Feb 17, 2012 7:12 AM PST up reply actions  

are my onions burning when I try to caramalize them

because the heat is too high or because teflon is a crime against humanity?

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by nolander on Feb 16, 2012 9:37 PM PST up reply actions  

heat too high, most likely. Teflon isn’t the problem. What’s your liquid?

by KellyStephen on Feb 16, 2012 9:38 PM PST up reply actions  

olive oil

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by nolander on Feb 16, 2012 9:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Are you truly trying for carmelized onions or simply grilled? I prefer grilled, which to me have more flavor and not as sweet.

you may want to consider a bit of red wine for flavor and sweetness as well.

If you want true carmelized onions, try this recipe from Cooking Light.

http://simmerandboil.cookinglight.com/2009/01/3-steps-to-perf.html

Note that it’s 45 minutes of cooking.

by KellyStephen on Feb 16, 2012 9:42 PM PST up reply actions  

the first

thanks

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Feb 16, 2012 9:43 PM PST up reply actions  

For grilled onions, I marinate the onions w/olive oil, red wine, a touch of salt and pepper for 20-30 minutes. Then pour them onto a medium heat pan, stir frequently until softened to the consistency I like, about 15-20 minutes. Lower the heat if they are burning on the edges too quickly.

by KellyStephen on Feb 16, 2012 9:44 PM PST up reply actions  

I carmelize onions

By starting them on the stove but finishing in a hot oven

by bhsportsguy on Feb 16, 2012 10:42 PM PST up reply actions  

You gotta

stir those bitches constantly and cook them slowly. Here’s a good method:

5 pounds brown onions (about 6 large)
1/2 cup oil
1 tablespoon salt

1. Cut off the stem and root ends of the onions, then halve them lengthwise and peel away the dried brown skin. Cut the onions lengthwise into one-fourth inch thick slices. As you finish, gather the onions in a large, heavy-bottomed pot (preferably cast-iron). A 7-quart pot will work just about perfectly.
2. When all of the onions have been sliced, pour over the oil and the salt and stir to combine. Set over medium heat and cover. Cook until the onions begin to wilt, stirring every 10 to 15 minutes to keep from sticking. As the onions soften, they will reduce in size quite dramatically.
3. After 20 to 30 minutes, the onions will be quite soft and they will begin to stick to the bottom. Reduce the heat to low and continue cooking with the pot covered, stirring every 10 to 15 minutes to keep from sticking.
4. After 45 to 50 minutes, the onions will be silky and will be swimming in moisture. Remove the lid and increase the heat back to medium. Cook, stirring frequently, until the moisture has mostly evaporated and the onions have begun to turn golden, about 25 to 30 more minutes.
5. Once again, reduce the heat to low and continue cooking, stirring every 15 to 20 minutes, until the onions really begin to brown more deeply, about 2 more hours (this will make 2 1/2 to 3 hours total).
6. At this point, you’ll need to watch the onions very carefully, stirring every couple of minutes or so. Cook until the onions have been reduced to a deep, reddish-brown marmalade, watching that they do not dry out, about 1 more hour, making 3 to 4 hours total.

Total time: 4 hours

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by mleadman on Feb 17, 2012 7:11 AM PST up reply actions  

What happened to USC's basketball team?

6-21
1-13 in the Pac12 (one of the worst conferences in basketball)

Wow.

by Joey Joe on Feb 16, 2012 9:11 PM PST reply actions  

They suck. Totally. Epic failure of a season. Is that enough for you?

by KellyStephen on Feb 16, 2012 9:12 PM PST up reply actions  

They were a middling team or so that suffered enough injuries so that they are down to six scholarship players on the active roster. Perfect storm of bad play and injuries.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 16, 2012 9:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Who knew that giving a scholarship to Little Romeo would cause so much misfortune!?!

(And what does it say that Little Romeo can get a scholarship but Jeremy Lin couldn’t?) :)

by Tripon on Feb 16, 2012 9:30 PM PST up reply actions  

First Jeremy Lin mention in this entire comment section!

by fbihop on Feb 16, 2012 10:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Minsanity!

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Feb 16, 2012 10:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Lin's twitter avatar is great

I never seen that before – but its really creative.

by Joey Joe on Feb 16, 2012 10:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Lin-cecum.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Feb 17, 2012 9:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Hell of a comeback for the Clips tonight in Portland.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 16, 2012 10:30 PM PST reply actions  

ugh

they won? i fell asleep.

by funkyjam on Feb 17, 2012 3:25 AM PST up reply actions  

I’ve seen a couple of them. They should be everywhere.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Feb 16, 2012 11:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Clips Covered

Portland simply ran out of gas after 11 quarters of basketball, they had nothing left in the 12 quarter.

Kenyon Martin been a huge difference maker.

BIg game Saturday, so stoked

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

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