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2012 Dodgers Player Profile: Michael Antonini; Almost a Top 50 Dodger Prospect

Michael Antonini throwing during the Dodgers 2012 Winter Development Program

If reading a player profile for the 51st rated Dodger minor leaguer (per TrueBlueLA's resident prospect expert Brandon Lennox) doesn't get you fired up for the upcoming season, then I really have to question your dedication to the Dodgers. Michael Antonini, by virtue of being added to the 40 man roster this past off-season, will theoretically be in the mix for a starting pitching or bullpen spot at some point during the 2012 season and will be getting a look during spring training.

Antonini was aquired by the Dodgers in the winter of 2010 in a trade with the New York Mets which sent Chin-Lung Hu out of Los Angeles. Hu was a failed prospect who was out of options and likely would have ended up being DFA'd anyway. In that sense, getting a player with options remaining for a player with no options remaining is certainly a nice upgrade from an organizational depth standpoint. In his one year in the Dodgers system Antonini spent all of 2011 in AA Chatanooga where he posted a pedestrian pitching line of 4.01 / 4.07 / 4.02 SIERA (stats from Minor League Central) in 148 innings pitched. According to Baseball Cube's statistically-driven scouting reports, Antonini's best attribute is his control as his walk rate of 2.55 per 9 rates positively compared to his peers. Antonini is also a left-handed starting pitcher which is in fairly short supply in the Dodgers system.

Trivia

Antonini is a Philadelphia area native and was actually drafted after his junior year at Georgia College and State University by the Philadelphia Phillies in the 41st round. Antonini did not sign and instead returned for his senior season after which he was ultimately drafted by the New York Mets in the 18th round.

Contract Status

As Antonini was only added to the 40 man roster for the first time this past winter, Antonini has 3 option years remaining and 6 seasons of major league service time which would be under Dodgers club control.

Previous Dodgers Player Profiles

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Stats

Year Age IP BB/9 K/9 ERA FIP
2010 (AA - Binghamton)
24 131.1 1.78 7.26 4.32 3.98
2010 (AAA - Buffalo)
24 37.0 1.22 6.08 5.11 4.61
2011 (AA - Chattanooga)
25 148.0 2.55 7.97 4.01 4.07
2012 Projections - Age 26 Season
Source IP BB/9 K/9 ERA FIP
PECOTA 51.1 2.81 4.74 5.20 4.86
ZiPS 132.2 2.85 5.70 5.70 5.14

2012 Outlook

My initial reaction when considering Antonini's prospects for 2012 (at the major league level) was to say "no way." After all, as a starting pitcher, Antonini is likely behind John Ely, Nathan Eovaldi, Allen Webster in the prospect ranks plus a few minor league free agents that tend to pop up. On second thought however, his non-prospect status and options make him a pretty attractive 1 or 2 day call-up in a pinch. The option year is going to be burned in 2012 anyway so Antonini can bounce back and forth between the minors as many times as necessary and as a non-prospect you aren't terribly worried about hurting his development. Per Brandon Lennox's minor league rankings, Ned Colletti mentioned at the Winter Development Program that Antonini was in the mix for a left-handed bullpen spot going into the season. While I think there's no chance Antonini breaks camp with the Dodgers, I could see a scenario where a taxed Dodger bullpen needs minor league reinforcements for a short stint.

I predict an ERA of 4.50 in 2 innings pitched out of the bullpen.

What is your prediction? Be sure to guess Antonini's ERA, number of innings pitched, plus anything else you would like to predict.

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Ned is piling up the minor league depth charts. FedEx, Fife, and Antonini all acquired last year. Three of the last four profiles.

If Fife or Antonini see any time this year before Sept…………

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by meercatjohn on Feb 20, 2012 8:27 AM PST reply actions  

I love it when a plan comes together.

by kinbote on Feb 20, 2012 9:03 AM PST up reply actions  

Capuano had his first healthy season since 2006 and Harang hasn’t cleared 171 innings since 2008. We’re getting into the pitching depth this year and Fife+Antonini is near the top of it.

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by regfairfield on Feb 20, 2012 9:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Eovaldi………………….Yikes

Webby and Withrow better upto speed quick.

None of our NRI’s can even be counted on for a Eric Milton run of a few games since they are all relief pitchers.

Would like to see Savage get one major league start.

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by meercatjohn on Feb 20, 2012 9:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Just for the potential headline right? :)

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 20, 2012 9:56 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Kind of, but I always root extra hard for the ECR grad’s and especially an indy kid who should have retired but didn’t and is now as close as he may ever get to a shot.

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by meercatjohn on Feb 20, 2012 9:58 AM PST up reply actions  

and picked up!

You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.

by G.Scott on Feb 20, 2012 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Depth is useless if you don’t plan on using it.

by Tripon on Feb 20, 2012 9:51 AM PST up reply actions  

TWSS.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 9:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Can’t say I don’t miss your ridiculous comment while your busy teaching.

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by meercatjohn on Feb 20, 2012 9:56 AM PST up reply actions  

i mean this in the most polite way possible, but is there any logic to which players are selected for the player profiles? it seems like the last several have been middling prospects with no real chance to make an impact this coming season.

by court168627 on Feb 20, 2012 8:33 AM PST via Android app reply actions  

Erickson wasn’t – but he is a non roster Invitee.

Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent.

by latenite on Feb 20, 2012 8:45 AM PST up reply actions  

Eric made the list but I think it would be any one invited to camp who has any chance of seeing some time during the season. We have 40 or more profiles, we have five writers, it gives us something to do until the games start playing. Are you actually complaining? or simply wondering why we are doing a profile for someone like Antonini who is simply roster fodder? Cause Jon Ely was roster fodder but thanks to our in depth player profile, by the time he made his 1st major league start those who read TBLA already knew who he was.

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by meercatjohn on Feb 20, 2012 9:08 AM PST up reply actions  

no, not complaining. just genuinely curious if there were any particular requirements that the player had to meet in order to get profiled. i couldn’t see you doing every top 50 prospect and nri, so i didn’t know what classified as fodder and what didn’t.

by court168627 on Feb 20, 2012 9:32 AM PST via Android app up reply actions  

I was perplexed in the same fashion…you are not alone!

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by latenite on Feb 20, 2012 9:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Michael Antonini sounds like the name of an Italian movie director

Eric made the list. He used the entire 40-man roster, then he selected some of the NRIs. The last four (The Filmmaker, Griff, FedEx, Single Bullet) are all on the 40-man.


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by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 9:58 AM PST up reply actions  

I don’t understand why this is a difficult concept to grasp. These are all players who have a shot at playing on the Dodgers in 2012.

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by meercatjohn on Feb 20, 2012 9:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Right. If you are on the 40-man and you’ve seen AA ball, there is a chance.


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by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 9:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Especially for arms, what with the injury rate for pitchers.


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by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 10:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Possible Future Dodger ML players?

I’m interested…keep it coming

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by BaldBilly on Feb 20, 2012 4:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I try to do 50 reviews

Everyone on the 40-man and any minor leaguers who get invited to camp are automatic, then I filled the rest with NRIs with a reasonable shot.

We have some flexibility so if someone else makes a run in camp we can slot them in (see Nick Green in 2009).

On an unrelated note, waiting until the last minute to move when you had all week is ill-advised. But I should be in Arizona by tonight. Hitting the road soon.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 20, 2012 11:03 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

see Nick Green in 2009

Or Hector Gimenez last year! (I actually don’t remember if he was in the original list or not for 2011.)


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 11:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Vector was on the list because he was weirdly on the 40-man already.

Good times

by Eric Stephen on Feb 20, 2012 1:43 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

By the time Eric gets to Ari-zona zona zona.

by kinbote on Feb 20, 2012 11:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Renting a condo made of stone-a?

Still chasing the dream of mediocrity

by Humma Kavula on Feb 20, 2012 11:59 AM PST up reply actions  

By the time Eric gets to Phoenix she’ll be rising?


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by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 12:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Eric is trying to break the big “Who will start opening day?” story.

by kinbote on Feb 20, 2012 12:09 PM PST up reply actions  

You’re gonna shit your pants when it’s Capuano.

Still chasing the dream of mediocrity

by Humma Kavula on Feb 20, 2012 12:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Two Times giving Capuano the VDN treatment. Confidence booster.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 20, 2012 12:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh, I’m all for it except for two things:

1. I’m not really all for it, and
2. Shit will be in pants

Still chasing the dream of mediocrity

by Humma Kavula on Feb 20, 2012 12:23 PM PST up reply actions  

If you look at the rotation circularly

there is going to be two lefties in a row at some point. If Billingsley doesn’t look improved this spring, coming of his lackluster mediocre 2011, I wouldn’t all be stunned to see a rotation of Kershaw, Lilly, Bills, Capuano, Harang. But I think management wants to see Bills step up to be #2, which probably makes the rotation CK, Bills, Lilly, Harang, Capuano


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by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 12:26 PM PST up reply actions  

interesting. How does this affect the amount of fecal matter in pants? Frankly, that is much more of a concern.

Still chasing the dream of mediocrity

by Humma Kavula on Feb 20, 2012 12:28 PM PST up reply actions  

That all depends on Billingsley.


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by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 12:42 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s how I would do it.

by kinbote on Feb 20, 2012 12:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Any truth to the rumor that Antonini is Italian for Stults?

by kinbote on Feb 20, 2012 9:04 AM PST reply actions  

Just as long as it isn’t Italian for Goltz.

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Feb 20, 2012 9:06 AM PST up reply actions  

Antonini ends up as the 7th starter but he loses God’s coin flip and is terrible in a couple spot starts, clearing the way for Fifemania and culminating with the post “Rowdy Roddy Fifer”

Soooo 9 innings, 8 ERA.

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by regfairfield on Feb 20, 2012 9:15 AM PST reply actions  

LOL

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 20, 2012 9:17 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

I saw a cool commercial yesterday

Featuring Kemp. It was showing his training in getting ready for the season while talked about Beast Mode.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 20, 2012 9:19 AM PST via iPhone app reply actions  

Antonini prediction

50 IP, 2.25 ERA, 35 K

Still chasing the dream of mediocrity

by Humma Kavula on Feb 20, 2012 9:41 AM PST reply actions  

Killed in tragic gardening accident.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 20, 2012 9:45 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

“Accident. Yes. Accident,” says Bellisario, hiding his pruning shears.

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by Humma Kavula on Feb 20, 2012 9:49 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

LOL

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 20, 2012 9:53 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Must have turned it up to 11!

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Feb 20, 2012 9:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Loved his Blow-Up and The Passenger

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by underdog on Feb 20, 2012 9:54 AM PST reply actions  

This guy’s missing an “o”.

by berkowit28 on Feb 20, 2012 9:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Thanks, I was aware of that. :-P

I see Dave made similar reference above, so at least I’m not alone.

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by underdog on Feb 20, 2012 10:02 AM PST up reply actions  

Strangely enough, I’ve never seen an Antonioni film. I wonder if the wife would sit through a triple-feature of the two you mentioned plus Zabriskie Point.


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by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 10:09 AM PST up reply actions  

One of my most uncomfortable moments

was sitting through the Zabriskie Point orgy scene with my dad. We had gone to the movie because of friend of my parents had a bit part in it.

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by mleadman on Feb 20, 2012 10:10 AM PST up reply actions  

It’s an Italian film director commenting on the United States of the late 1960s. It’s bound to be a bit oblique, don’t you think?


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 10:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Saw The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo

with my wife and my (22-year old) daughter. I’m pretty open-minded, as are they, but I wonder if my daughter was a little uncomfortable. Probably not, because we all discussed a couple of the scenes in there and what conclusions we were supposed to draw, etc.


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by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 10:19 AM PST up reply actions  

I was uncomfortable period.

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Feb 20, 2012 10:25 AM PST up reply actions  

It was an alarming to watch an extended sexual violence scene, yet being totally aware it is a movie and noting the curvature of Rooney Mara’s ass at the same time. Uncomfortable is the right word.

Later on, when she comes onto Daniel Craig and they hit the sack, I was uncomfortable with that too, thinking, isn’t is obvious that she is somewhat damaged goods and, as a significantly older man, maybe he shouldn’t be taking advantage of this opportunity, especially in the intense situation they are in, no matter how strongly she is advancing on him.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 10:31 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm 31

and I still get uncomfortable watching movie sex scenes with my parents in the room. Sex was never really discussed in my house growing up until I came home at 16 and told them my GF at the time was three months pregnant. Funny enough, now that “the kids” are all grown up, my parents, aunts, and uncles are super raunchy with the sexual innuendos at family gatherings.

by ishXdavid on Feb 20, 2012 11:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Don't know. Some of them haven't aged well

Maybe just Blow-Out and see how that goes…

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by underdog on Feb 20, 2012 11:37 AM PST up reply actions  

I was thinking the order mentioned was the right order to try it: Blow-Up, Passenger, ZP.

If ZP hasn’t aged well, that may make it all the more interesting.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 12:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Might be

though L’Eclisse (Eclipse) is better than ZB. Alain Delon and Monica Vitti moping around!

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by underdog on Feb 20, 2012 3:33 PM PST up reply actions  

the ending of ZP justifies it all. I actually think it’s one of his best. Plus seeing Hawthorne back then was a kick.

"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."

by Pure Azure on Feb 20, 2012 6:22 PM PST up reply actions  

According to IMDB, that’s not his original ending – the studio edited that out.


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by David Young on Feb 21, 2012 12:31 PM PST up reply actions  

That is the shortest I’ve ever seen Big Game James Worhty

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Feb 20, 2012 10:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Damnit, Josie

You stole my thunder

They call me the thread killer

by Greg Stephen on Feb 20, 2012 10:04 AM PST up reply actions  

thanks Jack Cooke, but clearly there are two distinct colors happening in that photo : )

by Josie Becker on Feb 20, 2012 10:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Has to be the photo, you don’t really think little James was wearing blue and mis matching with everyone else do you?

If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.

by meercatjohn on Feb 20, 2012 10:11 AM PST up reply actions  

And yet it happened repeatedly

What likely is going on is mismatching of older and newer uniforms, made with a different fabric.

by Josie Becker on Feb 20, 2012 10:28 AM PST up reply actions  

When you

Watch the video, he doesn’t look different in the 1985 playoffs. That uniform color did appear different in person than on film.

by bhsportsguy on Feb 20, 2012 10:30 AM PST up reply actions  

I imagine the 1985 television video recordings to be of lesser quality than some of the color still photographs of the time.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 10:34 AM PST up reply actions  

in the video they all appear like the bluer jersey James is wearing. The photos show the “well they looked purple in person” which we’ve all heard, but also suggests perhaps thinks were as uniform as they appeared.

by Josie Becker on Feb 20, 2012 10:36 AM PST up reply actions  

What if Worthy’s jersey is just drenched in sweat?

by ishXdavid on Feb 20, 2012 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

The moisture would darken the hue of the jersey. I can’t imagine the Showtime Lakers having such an egregious wardrobe malfunction.

by ishXdavid on Feb 20, 2012 11:13 AM PST up reply actions  

And at the same time Magic’s is perfectly dry?


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 12:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m having deja vu about this.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 20, 2012 12:03 PM PST up reply actions  

this is all pre-league wide uniform contract, the jerseys were made by a local company. I’m fully behind the “there actually were two shades of laker uniform” theory

by Josie Becker on Feb 20, 2012 12:06 PM PST up reply actions  

like the two different shades of blue lights

on the Vincent Thomas bridge. They went with two local vendors for the top and bottom

by delias man on Feb 20, 2012 12:07 PM PST up reply actions  

exactly. anytime you introduce a variable, you’re gonna get variation.

by Josie Becker on Feb 20, 2012 12:10 PM PST up reply actions  

I find your photographic evidence persuasive.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 12:09 PM PST up reply actions  

It is, but don’t you think that is something we’d have remembered, the difference is startling.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 20, 2012 12:17 PM PST up reply actions  

In the mid-80s was there all that much color photography in the newspapers yet? (USA Today debuted in ’82). Our TV pictures were relatively low-def. Much of the televised basketball was taped-delayed?


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 12:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I didn’t start going to games until 92 so I can’t give a eye witness account. Maybe Jim Murray can help out

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by Phil Gurnee on Feb 20, 2012 12:51 PM PST up reply actions  

but enough about the TBLA wives

You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.

by G.Scott on Feb 20, 2012 2:50 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I think so, before they moved on to the Converse Weapons.


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by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 12:53 PM PST up reply actions  

SBNation really needs to give me a sports fashion blog

by Josie Becker on Feb 20, 2012 12:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Thought the Lakers’ Weapons had some purple and gold trim, so these all-whites would be Pros, but I don’t really know for sure.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 12:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Of course

Commenting on this picture just encourages more comments like this one

by bhsportsguy on Feb 20, 2012 10:05 AM PST up reply actions  

I loved Amazing Grace and Chuck.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Feb 20, 2012 11:11 AM PST up reply actions  

Sometimes I’m amazed at web content. Uni-Watch might take the cake from a sports side.

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by Phil Gurnee on Feb 20, 2012 11:44 AM PST up reply actions  

anytime I’m all “hey guys, isn’t this little uniform quirk interesting” and y’all are like “no, go eat cake”, I’ve gotten the photos from uni-watch. He’s an EPSN writer doncha-know

by Josie Becker on Feb 20, 2012 11:47 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m not sure what you guys are complaining about. Cake is delicious.

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by Humma Kavula on Feb 20, 2012 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Spice

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by Phil Gurnee on Feb 20, 2012 11:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Strange interest in watching Willow for the first time in 24 years

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by meercatjohn on Feb 20, 2012 10:27 AM PST reply actions  

Good flick

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by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 20, 2012 10:33 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

I get that and Legend mixed in my head for some reason.

by kinbote on Feb 20, 2012 11:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Mike is overestimating Ely in this article; I highly doubt we see him added to the 40-man roster again. Antonini being that he’s LH will make some sort of appearance before Sept.

16 IP
3.94 ERA
All relief apperances

by silverwidow on Feb 20, 2012 10:27 AM PST reply actions  

Ely has made starts for us two years in a row, does not seem like a stretch that it will be three years by the end of the year.

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by meercatjohn on Feb 20, 2012 10:30 AM PST up reply actions  

Dodgers had no prospect arms ready to make the leap back then. Also, it’s telling that they never went back to Ely for another start after April.

by silverwidow on Feb 20, 2012 10:35 AM PST up reply actions  

I agree as far as our prospects go

If one of our starters goes down for a start or two (hopefully no longer), then we’ve got Eovaldi who’s already got experience, possibly Rubby back in August (not sure if he just goes to the BP or not right away), Withrow who’s been in AA for a couple of years now (I think he’s ready to break out finally), and Webster who could be somewhat close.

If we need a starter and it’s around May or June I think Ely wouldn’t be the first option, though he might be if it were April.

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by Ivdown on Feb 20, 2012 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Ya, I think there’s a certain comfort level there. He’s no world-beater but they know he can get outs against major leaguers for a few innings. Everybody else has much more uncertainty.

by Michael White on Feb 20, 2012 10:35 AM PST via Android app up reply actions  

Highly disagree

If the Dodgers valued him one iota, they wouldn’t have sent him outright to AAA.

by silverwidow on Feb 20, 2012 10:36 AM PST up reply actions  

So how’s that work? He’s got to make the team, get added to the 40- (or 25-) man, then serve the suspension…. what is the point of making it a minor league deal?

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by Humma Kavula on Feb 20, 2012 10:52 AM PST up reply actions  

he’s been granted the opportunity to serve his suspension.

by Josie Becker on Feb 20, 2012 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

No, he’ll serve the suspension either way. The minor leagues are under the purview of MLB. But the funny thing is that he can still play in ‘rehab’ games before his suspension finishes, just like he did with the Dodgers.

by Tripon on Feb 20, 2012 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

And I went to all three of the games in Albuquerque that he was scheduled to play at. He didn’t play in one because it was raining.

by fbihop on Feb 20, 2012 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

on the plus side

if he makes the team he won’t have to buy an apartment in Sacramento until the summer

by Josie Becker on Feb 20, 2012 11:13 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m picking up what your laying down. Might be worth an extra trip up to my hometown to possibly snag a line drive home run in the LF grass. It will be weird to see him in a River Cats uniform.

by jrock247 on Feb 20, 2012 11:46 AM PST up reply actions  

He already did a 50, why isn’t it 100?

by Michael White on Feb 20, 2012 11:13 AM PST up reply actions  

This is why

The reduction from 100 games was part of a compromise between MLB and the players’ union, sources say.
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The union believes Ramirez effectively served the 100-game penalty this year, when he retired in April and forfeited his salary; MLB had said Ramirez didn’t technically complete the suspension because he retired instead. Thus, the 50-game compromise.

by fbihop on Feb 20, 2012 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

What would the answer have been if Michael was at work?

by berkowit28 on Feb 20, 2012 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

I have to admit, I don’t know this TBLA inside joke.

by fbihop on Feb 20, 2012 11:35 AM PST up reply actions  

They need to plan their man dates.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 12:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Only of you.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 12:45 PM PST up reply actions  

TBLA slogan

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 20, 2012 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

You have more interesting…
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- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

According to Morosi, the reduced suspension was a compromise between MLB and the players’ union, who argued that Manny served his 100-game suspension last season (Manny chose to retire rather than serve his suspension). Manny’s suspension won’t begin until a team signs him to a contract.

http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-12-05/sports/30476786_1_manny-ramirez-suspension-reduced-team-signs#ixzz1mx1z0rQ6

by Josie Becker on Feb 20, 2012 11:15 AM PST up reply actions  

OK, this tweet from someone named hireaustinhuff wins the internet for the day:<blockquote>sportspickle Moneyball 2: Back To The Minors

by fbihop on Feb 20, 2012 12:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Outside of Guerra and Jansen

No Dodger relief pitcher pitched more than 9 innings in September and no reliever pitched as any as 16 innings. In fact only once did a reliever pitch as many as 15 innings and that was in April when Guerrier pitched 15.1 innings.

by bhsportsguy on Feb 20, 2012 10:51 AM PST reply actions  

Is this a reply to my Antonini prediction? I said he’d make relief appearances before September, sort of like Brent Leach from a few years ago.

by silverwidow on Feb 20, 2012 10:55 AM PST up reply actions  

7 Relief appearances

10.1 IP, 5 ERs. Sent back down for Withrow when a starting pitcher gets injured.

@TElciram

by Taylor Maricle on Feb 20, 2012 11:25 AM PST reply actions  

Should read No.3

Stupid sbnation formatting.

@TElciram

by Taylor Maricle on Feb 20, 2012 11:54 AM PST up reply actions  

There are three great things about SBNation formating
  1. I can create a list without thinking
  2. this leads to a preponderance of lists
  3. Lists are awesome

by Josie Becker on Feb 20, 2012 12:00 PM PST up reply actions  

High Fidelity captured the allure of lists quite well.

by kinbote on Feb 20, 2012 12:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I just watched it for the first time Saturday night.

by fbihop on Feb 20, 2012 12:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Meant the book. My favorite Nick Hornby.

by kinbote on Feb 20, 2012 12:06 PM PST up reply actions  

have you read his latest, about trying to find out more info on this obscure musician?

by Josie Becker on Feb 20, 2012 12:07 PM PST up reply actions  

No, I gave up on him a few books back. I think About a Boy was the last one I read.

by kinbote on Feb 20, 2012 12:08 PM PST up reply actions  

I gave up on him a few books back

I liked HF, About a Boy was OK. Bride read the one about suicide, said it was ehhhh, I didn’t read it and we gave up. We both read the one about the woman who falls for the aging pop star — can’t remember the title — but it too was ehhhhh.

Still chasing the dream of mediocrity

by Humma Kavula on Feb 20, 2012 12:20 PM PST up reply actions  

A Long Way Down—my wife read that too. Don’t recall the last one you’re referencing.

by kinbote on Feb 20, 2012 12:21 PM PST up reply actions  

The title is “Juliet, Naked.”

Still chasing the dream of mediocrity

by Humma Kavula on Feb 20, 2012 12:24 PM PST up reply actions  

If you enjoy High Fidelity, you might also enjoy Fever Pitch

by Josie Becker on Feb 20, 2012 12:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Did

Lisztomania capture the allure of Listz quite well?


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by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 12:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Is Rockman enough?

by kinbote on Feb 20, 2012 12:07 PM PST up reply actions  

in a shocking development, turns out unimpared breathing is a good thing for athletes.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 20, 2012 12:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh hyperbole
Arthur Monroe, an African-American artist and friend of Johnson’s, said that if the missing art had been by a white sculptor, “the university would have turned the campus upside down to find it.”

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Feb 20, 2012 12:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Words that make me say, "ugh"

emphasis mine

Gray Brechin, a Berkeley scholar of historical geography who specializes in New Deal art, … "You BOUGHT this? They SOLD it?" He identified Sargent Johnson as the artist and added, "I am astounded that they deacquisitioned it."


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by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 12:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m in agreement with you.

by kinbote on Feb 20, 2012 12:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I, for one, undisagree.

Still chasing the dream of mediocrity

by Humma Kavula on Feb 20, 2012 12:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I believe that is the correct usage in the art world. Using a noun combining form as a verb may be painful, but art people are known for that kind of crap.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Feb 20, 2012 12:40 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s not just that, it’s also using the de- prefix to form an opposite when other perfectly fine words exist. “I am astounded that they sold it.” Or, “I am astounded that they disposed of it.” Etc.


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by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 12:48 PM PST up reply actions  

The Lin story might be the coolest NBA story of the past decade

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by Phil Gurnee on Feb 20, 2012 12:24 PM PST reply actions  

And his name was mentioned on the 11pm ET edition of SportsCenter more times than the words “if” “but” “are” “be” or “what.”

by fbihop on Feb 20, 2012 12:34 PM PST up reply actions  

The SNL skit about the media portrayal was pretty funny.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Feb 20, 2012 12:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I listened to the Knicks game on the radio yesterday while driving. Seriously. That has to mean something.

by kinbote on Feb 20, 2012 12:35 PM PST up reply actions  

He’s Linsome.

Am I doing it right?

by fbihop on Feb 20, 2012 12:41 PM PST up reply actions  

If you’re trying to call him winsome, then yes.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Feb 20, 2012 12:42 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree. Because of him, I got mentioned as a journalist. (What a joke.)


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by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 12:49 PM PST up reply actions  

I hope to see some of Eric’s pictures featured on the Bad Spring Training Twitpic Tumblr.

Which is a brilliant idea that I wish I had thought of.

by fbihop on Feb 20, 2012 12:35 PM PST reply actions  

oh man so much this. The “bad cell phone photography by sports writers” trope is one that was begging to be capitalized on (and I admit I’m guilty of)

by Josie Becker on Feb 20, 2012 12:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Same with political reporters.

by fbihop on Feb 20, 2012 12:48 PM PST up reply actions  

The "OOOOH LOOGIT ME I INSTAGRAMMED IT!" comment made me laugh

by Julio Nievas on Feb 20, 2012 12:54 PM PST up reply actions  

So the old Dodger stadium parking lots

they were color coordinated to your seat. If you had a field level ticket, you seat was yellow you parked in a yellow lot. I imagine the colored lots were done away with when they changed the seat colors, but was it still free for all parking until Frank took over?

by Josie Becker on Feb 20, 2012 12:38 PM PST reply actions  

Nowadays, the Color-Blind would sue.

by kinbote on Feb 20, 2012 12:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes and it was amazing.

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by regfairfield on Feb 20, 2012 12:40 PM PST up reply actions  

trying to coordinate which gate to go into is difficult, and unless you’ve got season tickets you’re sequestered to random outerlands. I hope that goes away with the new owner

by Josie Becker on Feb 20, 2012 12:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I am in the minority

But I like the new parking system.


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by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 12:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Are we still talking about parking?


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by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 12:56 PM PST up reply actions  

hard to tell, we could use a few sellouts to test it.

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by Phil Gurnee on Feb 20, 2012 12:56 PM PST up reply actions  

at 25,000 fans piece of cake

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by Phil Gurnee on Feb 20, 2012 12:57 PM PST up reply actions  

The system was in

Place in 2009 if not earlier. Big crowds were always a issue but if you timed it just right you could get out from the outer sections, I think the inner sections were always a hassle regardless,

Back at 4+1, it took over an hour to get out from old lot 34.

by bhsportsguy on Feb 20, 2012 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Honestly, I’m more shocked no one has been run over at DS then I am about any violence. I feel when I’m walking I almost get hit every night and when I’m driving I almost hit someone.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 20, 2012 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Agreed. I hope they do improve lighting in the lots in the future, not because I think it will significantly deter violence, but for this reason.


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by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 1:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Yet another expense for the new owners.


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by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

I figured since so many of us had left early it would have been a piece of cake to leave the 4+ 1 game:)

First item was just me being snarky about the the attendance.

When Frank first made all those changes in 2009 he put rent a hand wavers on every corner of Scott to wave folk through so we could ignore the stop signs. I think that lasted a few months but they were all gone by the end of 2009. Not sure if he brings them back for high attendance games or not. They would also open the Scott entrance for existing purposes. That helped a lot.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 20, 2012 1:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe. It keeps a lot of fools who only know the Stadium Way entrance/exit out of where I like to park, which helps. Sometimes, on lower attendance nights, I fly out of there when I can still see brake lights in the other exit.


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by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 1:01 PM PST up reply actions  

me too

but i made a critical error saturday night. i wanted to park off the sunset gate, but am so used to going in off the solano canyon gate that i had to park further away than i wanted to. no way to get around it once i committed.

by delias man on Feb 20, 2012 1:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Saturday Night?

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by Phil Gurnee on Feb 20, 2012 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Before if you didn’t know what you were doing you were hopelessly screwed and could get trapped in the parking lot for ages, but if you had a plan you could be out in two minutes. The new system is designed to just make everyone unhappy.

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by regfairfield on Feb 20, 2012 12:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I didn’t think it was a complete free-for-all. Inside of the inner loop road was still preferred parking of some sort and for the minimum fee you had to park outside of that road.


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by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 12:55 PM PST up reply actions  

originally DS was built was just the inner loop lots, right? Those outerlands came later?

by Josie Becker on Feb 20, 2012 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

They have had the outerlands since 1970 if my memory is working, can’t speak for 62-69

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by Phil Gurnee on Feb 20, 2012 1:01 PM PST up reply actions  

From the looks of the place, they haven’t put a drop of paint in the parking lots during the McCourt years.


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by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

In hindsight, given his financial situation, I’m stunned he put any money into the Stadium. The new seats iin what used to be foul territory were revenue earners, but he certainly did not need to replace every seat in the stadium, or widen the concourse at the field level.

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by Phil Gurnee on Feb 20, 2012 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Looks like

they were always there, but the configuration was a little different, with maybe a second partial loop road from Stadium Way (the 11 Fwy side) to Stadium Way (the 5 Fwy side).


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by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 1:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Forgot the link.


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by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 1:05 PM PST up reply actions  

The pic


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by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 1:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I

Don’t mind it either, the Sunset exit is where I park 90% of the time if I park there, HJ goes in the Stadium Way entrance and still parks on the outer edge.

And yes, there was reserved parking that tied into season tickets that was on the same level but the outer lots were GA until whenever it was changed for the new system.

by bhsportsguy on Feb 20, 2012 1:04 PM PST up reply actions  

you see what loaning me that book has done? I have more ammo for trivial historical questions : )

by Josie Becker on Feb 20, 2012 1:05 PM PST up reply actions  

No.

I believe it was $3, $5 then $7 until Frank showed up. (This is my memory of the cost)

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Feb 20, 2012 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

free for all meaning park anywhere, not free parking, but I needed that info too : )

by Josie Becker on Feb 20, 2012 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

No matter where my seats are, I park in front of the Will Call booths. (That way, if I get too drunk I can always find my car.)

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Feb 20, 2012 3:08 PM PST up reply actions  

That sounds like a bad idea. Wouldn’t it better to be self-correcting – too drunk to find your car, keep wandering around?

by berkowit28 on Feb 20, 2012 5:34 PM PST up reply actions  

my memory is the same. then 10, then 12, then 14, then 15.

You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.

by G.Scott on Feb 20, 2012 3:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Sounds about right.

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Feb 20, 2012 3:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Went straight from $10 to $15.


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by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 3:45 PM PST up reply actions  

by pedestrian walkway he must mean concrete dividers that are pointed toward nowhere

by Josie Becker on Feb 20, 2012 3:48 PM PST up reply actions  

twas fuzzy

You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.

by G.Scott on Feb 20, 2012 3:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes he was.


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by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 4:03 PM PST up reply actions  

What is Manny playing for?

Can’t be money, he’s getting minimum
Can’t be one last title, he just signed with a last place team

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 20, 2012 12:59 PM PST reply actions  

same reason folk play softball in rec leagues, I imagine. Just he has access to a better rec league

by Josie Becker on Feb 20, 2012 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

same reason folk play softball in rec leagues

oh, he’s trying to get laid

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 20, 2012 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

That never works. The only women spectators at men’s games are GFs/wives and the women players in co-ed leagues usually already have BFs, usually who brought them onto the team to make quota.

He is playing for the beer. And because it’s the majors, the post-game spread.


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by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 1:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Now you tell me

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 20, 2012 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

i did go to save the dodgers site

to look for game pics of miss bump-it. (the catcher) indeed she is all over some guy in the team photo

by delias man on Feb 20, 2012 1:14 PM PST up reply actions  

He is playing for the beer. And because it’s the majors, the post-game spread.

“Natty Light and cheese sandwiches?”

“Welcome to Oakland.”

Still chasing the dream of mediocrity

by Humma Kavula on Feb 20, 2012 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

I met my fiance playing co-ed softball.

by ishXdavid on Feb 20, 2012 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

The guy you stole her from was pissed I bet.


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by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 2:33 PM PST up reply actions  

haha!

It was a confluence of strange circumstances that lead to our story.

by ishXdavid on Feb 20, 2012 4:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Meaning if he can’t hear them they have stopped crying? Or they are crying because their Daddy has been one of the few players in the history of baseball to be nailed twice by the PED police?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 20, 2012 1:02 PM PST up reply actions  

So YOU’RE the one who is still trying to figure out why Manny Ramirez does anything.

The man’s nickname is Manny Being Manny. There is no figuring him out.

Still chasing the dream of mediocrity

by Humma Kavula on Feb 20, 2012 1:05 PM PST up reply actions  

There’s some evidence that, in his later years with both Red Sox and Dodgers, he played poorly when he couldn’t really be bothered and wasn’t trying. And that he did fantastically well when he really made the effort – which unfortunately also included taking steroids as going all out. He probably thinks that that if he tries hard he can still play great and establish a performance level that will a( get him traded to a contending team mid-season and b) get him a good salary next year. He’s ignoring a) his age and b) what he owed to steroids and current steroid scrutiny, which means he either won’t be able to take PEDS or will immediately be penalized and kicked out. Manny has a knack for ignoring reality.

Anyway, short version is he probably thinks he can reestablish himslef and get a salary next year. He’ll probably get in a few good games before he slackens or is injured, both from age.

by berkowit28 on Feb 20, 2012 1:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Excellent analysis

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 20, 2012 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

agreed. although the irrational side of me hopes/believes that he’ll come back and dominate.

by court168627 on Feb 20, 2012 2:07 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

Manny remained as a dominant force for so long i just can’t imagine him OPS’ing below .800 if he’s healthy.

@TElciram

by Taylor Maricle on Feb 20, 2012 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

i can. but if he does that I’ll consider that quite the comeback

by court168627 on Feb 20, 2012 2:12 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

I see you are unfamilar with the Oakland Athletics.

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by regfairfield on Feb 20, 2012 2:25 PM PST up reply actions  

If you mean the stadium

Yeah, that’ll be a disadvantage.

@TElciram

by Taylor Maricle on Feb 20, 2012 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

The A’s magical power to make any hitter they acquire turn into complete crap.

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by regfairfield on Feb 20, 2012 2:36 PM PST up reply actions  

For some reason, it never dawned on me until just now how that name is becoming / has become ironic.


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by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

He wants to leave the game a better way then he was going to, for his kids.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 20, 2012 1:38 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

500K is also a nice chunk of change for 7 months work

After seeing ex-players blow through all their earnings and Iverson squander 150 mil, who knows if Manny has properly invested his money

by SeanMillerSavior on Feb 20, 2012 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

According to the sidebar on your right, from the Dodgers alone Manny will be receiving $8,087,432, and (a click away), $4,043,716 in 2013, deferred form 2010 and 11. Plus more money from the White Sox for both years. Plus, if I remember correctly, a huge amount from the Red Sox as a sort of deferred salary every year for the next 15 years or so. Aside from whatever he has invested in the usual sense. The $500,000 this year is meaningless in itself.

by berkowit28 on Feb 20, 2012 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I honestly think that

1) he just wants to play
2) He figures that if he can put up1 or 2 good post-steriod twilight-years seasons that he might make the HOF despite his suspensions

@TElciram

by Taylor Maricle on Feb 20, 2012 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

$8,087,432 in 2012 from the Dodgers alone.

by berkowit28 on Feb 20, 2012 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Who knew Cal State Northridge had an interesting radio station (88.5).

For you oldies types, if you ever wondered what happened to Robert Hilburn (LA Times Musical Reporter ) he’s doing a show on Sundays. This weekend he did the A – E top bands
A – Allman Brothers
B – Beatles
C – CCR
D – Doors
E – Eagles

As we were listening to the show I was telling my wife what a huge Bob Dylan fan he was during his reign as music critic, and she exclaimed no wonder she had been hearing Dylan songs all morning.

I couldn’t help but picture a Baby Boomer Generation at Leisure World tuning in for his show and having quite an animated discussion.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 20, 2012 1:17 PM PST reply actions  

A co-worker of mine (well into his 60s) sometimes does that Sunday morning bluegrass show they have. Or at least he has in the recent past.


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by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

We heard it yesterday so it is still on.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 20, 2012 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Verdell has decided our birds need the radio on so she has chosen that station for them.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 20, 2012 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes it is, I just don’t know if he stills does it at all or not.


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by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I can’t pick up 88.5 over here. Oh well, I would have been interested in his Dylan selections.

by silverwidow on Feb 20, 2012 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

His show is apparently downloadable here. Things I did not know about Robert Hilburn:

A native of Natchitoches, La….a member of the first graduating class of California State University, Northridge when it was known as San Fernando Valley State College, where he was editor of the of campus newspaper for three years.
Maybe iiidown knew him! (I’d guess that must be the class of ’61 or ’62?)


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by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Damn, that is cool that 50 years later he’s working on the radio for them. I think Marty started at the Times after he was gone, I’d be curious what he thought of him, I remember him being a huge proponent of the LA Times scene that spawned X and Los Lobos.

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by Phil Gurnee on Feb 20, 2012 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

According to wikipedia, Hilburn left the LAT in ’05. Also from there:

he graduated from Reseda High School in 1957 and California State University, Northridge (journalism degree) in 1961


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by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

My recollection is similar that he thought highly of parts of the LA scene, including X, The Blasters, Black Flag, Circle Jerks, etc.


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by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

No, I know him

He’s a really nice guy. And I’ve been listening to 88.5 for the last couple months or so. I can get it until i go over the hill in Glendale.

It's gettin' so a businessman can't expect no return from a fixed fight. Now, if you can't trust a fix, what can you trust?

by mleadman on Feb 20, 2012 4:06 PM PST up reply actions  

That is good to know, for some reason I’d be bummed if he was an asshole. For a writer he has a decent radio voice.
Thought you’d like to know that when he announced the Doors as his best D band he said something like “I didn’t much like the Doors back in their heyday, I found them pretentious, but over time I feel I misjudged them”, then he kicked off their set with a 10 Minute live version of Light my Fire.

Alot of his reviews used to bug me but I’ll give him credit for getting me to listen to music I might not have if not for him since my peer group was more into AC / DC then the music he was cheerleading.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 20, 2012 4:10 PM PST up reply actions  

I used to have clippings about music from the LAT all over my bedroom walls when I was in middle and high school. A lot of those would be Hilburn reviews.


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by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 4:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Hilburn's wife Kathy

is another great person who worked at the Times for years. She’s also a huge Dodger fan and had a large picture of Koufax at her desk

It's gettin' so a businessman can't expect no return from a fixed fight. Now, if you can't trust a fix, what can you trust?

by mleadman on Feb 20, 2012 5:10 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m liking him more every second

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 20, 2012 5:11 PM PST up reply actions  

It is where I would have gone in 1970, after 2 years at Moorpark College, had I not entered the US Air Force in 1969. And yes, I read Hilburn every Sunday morning in the Times.

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Feb 20, 2012 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

the US Air Force in 1969

That was one helluva tough time to be entering the military. Holy shit.


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by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 3:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Bobby be lucky he was a Down.

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by Phil Gurnee on Feb 20, 2012 3:22 PM PST up reply actions  

helluva summer too

You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.

by G.Scott on Feb 20, 2012 3:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I went in because my draft number had come up, but I had prepared for that contingency, and took the Air Force entrance tests in Feb. 1969. I finished the semester, and took the summer off. Tavelled up and down California and Baja, surfing, sleeping in my station wagon, Had a great summer! Wish you were there! Then I went back to the Air Force recruiter and told him that I didn’t want to be drafted, so he scheduled me to enter service Dec, 26, 1969. Spent the next four years as a crew chief on the F-4.

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Feb 20, 2012 3:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Hope you drew duty stateside or some place relatively safe.


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by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 3:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Thailand I believe is where he went

He’s got a lot of pictures of his barracks and stuff

TBLA 2011 Postseason Prediction Champion

by Ivdown on Feb 20, 2012 4:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m sure he didn’t show you the good pictures.


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by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 4:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I spent six months in Texas (which I don’t wish on anybody), 2 1/2 years in lovely Victorville. and a year on Ubon Thailand. I was luckier than most servicemen.

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Feb 20, 2012 4:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Especially for those years.


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by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 4:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Eric

Just spent 2.5 years in the Victorville area

by bhsportsguy on Feb 20, 2012 5:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m sure it seemed much longer.


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by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 5:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I imagine Victorville in 1970 was a bit different than today.


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by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 5:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Much different. The Red Log Inn was the hot spot in town. Country music galore! But, there was a topless place on Pearblossom highway by the Wonder Bread store, and a beer bar in Adelanto. Adelanto was about 1 block long then,

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Feb 20, 2012 6:28 PM PST up reply actions  

In honor of Durant and Westbrook

Speaking of someone on this page, other then Pippen and Jordan, who were the last teammates to score 40 points or more in the same game?

I know the answer to that question. An ex-Clipper is part of the duo.

What I don’t know the answer to. Durant and Westbrook did it during an overtime win as did the other duo. Other then Jordan and Pippen have two teammates ever scored more then 40 points in a regulation game?

And how about Denver? Durant and Westbrook almost go for a century in points against them and they still almost won.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 20, 2012 1:26 PM PST reply actions  

One final stop before officially hitting the road

Was a stop at the Verizon store to drop off my Fios box and Internet modem. Surely this would only take a few minutes.

But I entered what appears to be the end of humanity, a purgatory of sorts. But I do get to find the answer to the question, “how long can it take to process the SEVENTEEN people in front me?”

by Eric Stephen on Feb 20, 2012 1:42 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

for-ev-er

for-ev-er
for-ev-er
for-ev-er

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 20, 2012 1:45 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

holiday weekend fun!

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Feb 20, 2012 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

One way Fios is no better than cable, apparently.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

i try to forget too.

by court168627 on Feb 20, 2012 2:02 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

You only come here for the uniform talk

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 20, 2012 3:27 PM PST up reply actions  

He's gonna be much better this year, bank on it!*

(*It’s hard not to be better)

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Feb 20, 2012 3:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Impossible is the word you’re looking for.

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Feb 20, 2012 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

He will at least draw a salary.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 4:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Right, I’ll be shocked if he’s on the team next year. If so I think that means he more then bounced back, he delivered.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 20, 2012 4:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I got extremely excited for like half an hour when I thought I would be able to go to Spring Training this year — then I realized that I left it too late and everything is too expensive. Blah.

by fbihop on Feb 20, 2012 2:08 PM PST reply actions  

i have extra tickets to the dodgers giants game on the 17th that I’ll sell to you for face value

by court168627 on Feb 20, 2012 2:10 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

It is more that hotels, driving out there, etc. is too expensive.

by fbihop on Feb 20, 2012 2:16 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

i see.

well, there’s always next season.

by court168627 on Feb 20, 2012 2:17 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

Gonna save up and try to get out to LA for the weekend of July 13 to see the Dodgers play.

by fbihop on Feb 20, 2012 2:19 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

nice.

where do you live?

by court168627 on Feb 20, 2012 2:23 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

He’s in Albuquerque.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 2:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I lucked out with free lodging at my friend’s guest house. And the Prius gets very good mileage.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 2:38 PM PST up reply actions  

We Prius owners smile gently as gas prices slowly rise….

Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent.

by latenite on Feb 20, 2012 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Sportscenter

is using video taken by SBNation Arizona of Kobe Bryant talking about the Gasol trade rumors. They credit SBNation in the lefthand corner. It’ll be interesting to see if as SBNation’s youtube project expands, this will be a more common occurrence.

by Josie Becker on Feb 20, 2012 2:21 PM PST reply actions  

Honestly, the only thing interesting about the expansion of SBNation will be if they pay their bloggers a living wage.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 20, 2012 3:17 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t see that ever happening. It just doesn’t make much sense for them as a business when they know there is an endless supply of bloggers willing to write for free (or for much less than a living wage).

by VegasBlues on Feb 20, 2012 3:31 PM PST up reply actions  

It is already happening to a point. They have taken several bloggers (Grant) and added them to the “baseball” site (Rob Neyer) and they get paid. There is a difference between endless supply of bloggers and bloggers who can really write. You pick the cream and uplift them.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 20, 2012 3:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Exactly? When have I written anything that was exactly? You could improve this synopsis but you are being lazy.

:)

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 20, 2012 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

But you’re Famous!

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Feb 20, 2012 3:42 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m on top of the adequate pyramid

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 20, 2012 3:43 PM PST up reply actions  

So was David Eckstein.

by Grimjack on Feb 20, 2012 3:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I know they have promoted some people and will continue to hire people as they get bigger. I don’t ever see them paying the writers of each individual blog though.

This is just my opinion.

by VegasBlues on Feb 20, 2012 3:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I hold no illusions that I will ever see a dime, not that I deserve one. Eric gets a little something for being the editor of TBLA, but it is not much.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 4:05 PM PST up reply actions  

they’re up to some 20-30 full time employees. They showed us this pyramid at the SBNation retreat. SBNation.com >SBNation.com/[insert sport here] > [city].sbnation.com > bloggers.

by Josie Becker on Feb 20, 2012 3:38 PM PST up reply actions  

city writers get paid right?

not full time pay but paid nonetheless

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Feb 20, 2012 3:39 PM PST up reply actions  

all city writers get paid. Only head bloggers get paid.

by Josie Becker on Feb 20, 2012 3:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Not much in either case though.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 3:58 PM PST up reply actions  

nope. It’s supplemental income, in that it can supplement your cable bill

by Josie Becker on Feb 20, 2012 4:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Which you should be writing off as a business expense!


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 4:21 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I haven't been here in forever but at one time

Eagle Rock Italian Bakery made ones that I liked.

How does one judge a cannoli these days? Just by the filling? The shells seem so generic these days.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

it’s filling for me. If I feel like I’m eating an ice cream taco, we’ve got problems

by Josie Becker on Feb 20, 2012 2:54 PM PST up reply actions  

but that sounds delicious

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Feb 20, 2012 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Choco Taco

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 20, 2012 3:16 PM PST up reply actions  

nom noms?

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Feb 20, 2012 3:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Hard to tell in that photo.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 3:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Nice handlebar.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 3:20 PM PST up reply actions  

If you wanted an ice cream taco. If you wanted cannoli, you’d better damn well be able to taste cheese in that filling.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 3:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I think I should have written “cannolo” there; cannoli is, of course, plural.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Must keep blog clean

Must restrain from off colour jokes and about “taco”

by Grimjack on Feb 20, 2012 3:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Like the restaurant in the Hard Rock Hotel, Las Vegas, and in Century City?


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 3:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Take the gun, leave the cannoli.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Feb 20, 2012 3:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Jon Weisman laying himself open

Jon tends to be hard on himself, must be mentally tough for those of you who feel you are not living upto expectation. When you know your ceiling is adequate, it is easier to accept one’s lot in life.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 20, 2012 3:21 PM PST reply actions  

You know what the first thing they tell you on the first day of any Psychology class?

If you let yourself, you’ll diagnose yourself with every mental disease we cover.

It strikes me that Jon very easily relates himself to many different people/characters from many different backgrounds because not only does he cover them as part of his job/hobby, he also has a breadth of experience to draw from.

No doubt, Jon holds himself to an unattainable standard, and frankly, I wish I could hold myself to such a standard and put in the work to try and reach that image of myself, but that’s just not where I am with my life right now.

You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.

by G.Scott on Feb 20, 2012 3:37 PM PST up reply actions  

this hits close to home

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Feb 20, 2012 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

well at least the first few paragraphs did

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Feb 20, 2012 3:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Commenting on DT works for me only intermittently through my work fire wall for some reason, so I’d comment there, but I can’t. Not that I have anything to say. I’ve been lucky, very lucky in life. I was born to two parents who cared about their children but didn’t spoil them. I was born smart enough to skate through high school and get into UCLA at a time when it didn’t take perfection in grades, standardized test scores and extracurricular activity to do so. I was lucky enough to happen to take a course that lead to changing my major. I was fortunate enough to stumble into my career because someone who graduated ahead said, “hey send your resume to my boss”. I made a significant career change within my company that really paid off for me solely because I happened to be one of two people who was finishing up an assignment at that time.

On the personal side, I was fortunate to be raised in an extremely stable environment. A series of random social events had to occur for me to meet my wife, yet here we are, still married after 23 years, still happy after 27. Our first pregnancy yielded our only child. We wanted more, but it didn’t happen. While the economic ups and downs affected us, they mostly postponed things rather than create very difficult times.

Consequently, I tend to believe that no matter how much I think I have control over what happens in my life, I can only make decisions for the situations that I actual find myself in, and I seem to have little control over how and when those situations happen. Am I a success? Am I a failure? Did I over or under achieve? Maybe I just had some good blind dumb luck.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 3:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Think about the graveside scene at the end of “Forest Gump”. And the look at the feather.

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Feb 20, 2012 4:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Reading stuff like this actually helps me through tough times. Hell, when I had to quit my job because of my health I went from having a career job that I could build upon and live comfortably throughout the rest of my life to where I am now (living off of just over $12k a year in Disability). There was a time in my life when I was feeling really down about my current situation that I would lash out at someone like Jon posting what he did (because I see him as a successful guy), but not now. Now I appreciate it because it shows that no matter where you are in life many of us still deal with the same mental problems.

I had to take some new medicine today which has screwed with my head a little so I apologize if this comes across all jumbled. Oh and I would have posted this over at DT but I’m having trouble registering over there.

by VegasBlues on Feb 20, 2012 3:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Good thoughts, and good luck with the new medicine.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 20, 2012 3:57 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree with Phil, Good thoughts and I hope that the new meds help.

by Grimjack on Feb 20, 2012 3:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Good luck with the meds. Tuning drug treatments must by trying.

I find my best success with DT by using my twitter ID to log in.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 4:01 PM PST up reply actions  

And the LA Times format didn’t?

Both the LAT and ESPN paid Jon to write those blogs. Now he is self-hosting again. I think he’d like the paycheck back.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 4:07 PM PST up reply actions  

forgot la times

yeah that wasnt so good either

by Joey Joe on Feb 20, 2012 4:10 PM PST up reply actions  

In a perfect world Jon gets a paying gig at the SBNation Baseball Site, writes a fictional baseball book that catches the eye of an astute producer, who hires Underdog to co- write the screen play.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 20, 2012 4:12 PM PST up reply actions  

There’s the idea for a good movie script!

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Feb 20, 2012 4:14 PM PST up reply actions  

journalism is dying as a money making venture

feel bad for people trying to make their bones in the field

by Joey Joe on Feb 20, 2012 4:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Hard to make a living doing
it.

by fbihop on Feb 20, 2012 4:17 PM PST up reply actions  

This is a really deep and well thought out article, wow
Eric Stephen, who didn’t even start blogging until 2009, is covering the Dodgers’ full-time beginning in Spring Training for True Blue L.A.

This is a really cool line though, even if the overall part is sort of sad from where Jon is coming from.

TBLA 2011 Postseason Prediction Champion

by Ivdown on Feb 20, 2012 4:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m so glad I didn’t read Jon’s post until the end of the day or else I would’ve totally useless at work. It hits home on so many levels. I feel fortunate that the Dodgers and sports in general has remained nothing more than a welcome diversion in my life.

by ishXdavid on Feb 20, 2012 4:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I really don't mean to be insensitive

because I think everyone ever (surprise surprise) has felt this way: that is, inadequate in some shape and form at some time.

But there’s a big difference between running a blog that is a side business and taking on covering the Dodgers or any other baseball team as a full time gig. Eric is going to AZ for the full month of spring training, right? He doesn’t have a family or little kids to worry about, unlike Jon. If Jon was willing to take what essentially amounts to a beat reporter position, I am sure that with his credentials and ability, the opportunity is open to him. But I don’t think it’s personally worthwhile (and more importantly, I don’t think it’s healthy) to compare the milestones in your life with someone else’s in a vacuum.

This is a lot like when I see people I went to high school with passing the bar and becoming lawyers or starting their residencies at hospitals. I look at my life and go, “What the fuck!” And then I realize I don’t want to be an attorney. I don’t want to be a doctor. And I am where I am because of the choices I made, and I have to be happy with that, or be doomed forever to feeling like I’m coming up short. That seems like a really crappy lens to view my life through.

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena

by Maddz on Feb 20, 2012 5:10 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Might be the best thing you have ever written.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 20, 2012 5:12 PM PST up reply actions  

here

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 20, 2012 5:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks :)

the clarification was amusing :)

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena

by Maddz on Feb 20, 2012 5:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Keep in mind Jon is now pushing 40 and looking at your peers at 25 is different than at 40.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 20, 2012 5:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I wonder if I just aged Jon more than I should have.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 20, 2012 5:15 PM PST up reply actions  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Weisman

You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.

by G.Scott on Feb 20, 2012 5:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Jon has made it. He has a wikipedia page

You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.

by G.Scott on Feb 20, 2012 5:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Dude, Jon turned 45 last year. He’s looking to catch up to us pretty soon.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 5:16 PM PST up reply actions  

(He’s a year younger than my youngest brother.)


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 5:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Damn, I keep thinking I’m the only one getting older and everyone else stays the same age

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 20, 2012 5:17 PM PST up reply actions  

all right, all right, all right.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Feb 20, 2012 7:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Hence like “this is a lot like” :D

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena

by Maddz on Feb 20, 2012 5:17 PM PST up reply actions  

again

I don’t want to denigrate anyone’s feelings or accomplishments or anything remotely like that. That was just my reaction.

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena

by Maddz on Feb 20, 2012 5:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Questioning/regretting past choices

is a national past time. It’s why a lot of people drink themselves to sleep each night. At least a couple times a month I ponder what-ifs, some for things that are over 30 years old. I try to maintain a sense of humor about the ridiculousness of life but every so often I fall into a funk like Jon is describing and really lose my self-confidence.

It's gettin' so a businessman can't expect no return from a fixed fight. Now, if you can't trust a fix, what can you trust?

by mleadman on Feb 20, 2012 5:35 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s only happened about 20 times since I turned 35. I get the regrets and wonder if the choices I’ve made are the right ones. There’s only two choices then: press on or quit.

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Feb 20, 2012 5:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Right. Everyone does.

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena

by Maddz on Feb 20, 2012 5:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Of course. I think you’d have to be pathological never to look back at past decisions at least occasionally. The difference is in the amount of time we spend dwelling on them.

There was that one Italian/Mexican girl I dated for a little while……


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 5:57 PM PST up reply actions  

….and there was this tall blonde with hair down to her butt……

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Feb 20, 2012 6:29 PM PST up reply actions  

that was her back hair, and her name was Steve.

You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.

by G.Scott on Feb 20, 2012 6:30 PM PST up reply actions  

He preferred Stephan,

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Feb 20, 2012 6:34 PM PST up reply actions  

On the other hand

I had a Langers pastrami sandwich today for the first time in about 6 months. I just came out of the food coma.

It's gettin' so a businessman can't expect no return from a fixed fight. Now, if you can't trust a fix, what can you trust?

by mleadman on Feb 20, 2012 5:57 PM PST up reply actions  

I need one of those sandwiches.

by Grimjack on Feb 20, 2012 6:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I appreciate where you're coming from

Just to reply …

1) I wouldn’t characterize my anxiety as simply “someone else has X and I don’t.” I’m aware of the difference between my situation and Eric’s, and aware that I would never want to be a doctor.

2) No one has ever offered me a full-time job writing about baseball. So part of my anxiety relates to the fact that “I am sure that with his credentials and ability, the opportunity is open to him” isn’t true.

I am not crazy with ambition. If money weren’t an issue – if I could figure out, for example, how to reduce my the expenses so that I didn’t need more income, I’d be perfectly content with running Dodger Thoughts on my own, working on spec scripts when the spirit moved me, and otherwise just hanging out. However, I’m in a field that does not reward people except in very rare cases. So I feel I don’t have the option of smelling all the roses. Some. Not all.

If it were just about me, I don’t think I would get as anxious as I get. But it’s not just about me. It’s about four other people.

by JonWeisman on Feb 20, 2012 5:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I wasn’t trying to reduce the totality of your anxiety to a simple comparison between you and like persons; as someone who routinely has anxiety attacks, I can appreciate the nuances of anxiety.

It isn’t my place, really, to respond in full to your post, and I’m sure if you were interested in my opinion (and I have no idea why you would and am under no illusions that you would want to know), we could take it offline and talk. I simply recognized some of what you were talking about in myself. I know what it’s like to see a presentation of a colleague and think “holy shit, I wish I had done that” or “why wasn’t I selected to do X?!” Of course, before Phil chimes in, my experiences are probably not nearly as dire/meaningful as yours, as I am 25 and don’t have a family I am responsible to/for other than two cats and a man who willfully and cheerfully puts up with my crazy on a daily basis.

But I do emphasize, and to a degree, I do understand. I just don’t think you should look to other people to measure up how you’ve failed but instead to see how unique and successful, in your own right, that you are. :)

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena

by Maddz on Feb 20, 2012 6:07 PM PST up reply actions  

empathize

I can’t spell

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena

by Maddz on Feb 20, 2012 6:09 PM PST up reply actions  

But you can write.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 20, 2012 9:01 PM PST up reply actions  

It is turning a corner when you are at a Clippers game and you are shocked when Chris Paul does not make the right play and assure a victory?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 20, 2012 3:25 PM PST reply actions  

Man....

@jwquick: Wow. Oden knee surgery turns into another microfracture. Done for the season

by Michael White on Feb 20, 2012 3:45 PM PST reply actions  

Maybe when a 19 year old looks like he’s 40, it means something?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 20, 2012 3:54 PM PST up reply actions  

@jwquick: That’s two microfractures on the left knee, one microfracture on the right knee

by Michael White on Feb 20, 2012 3:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Not that I’m aware of

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 20, 2012 4:00 PM PST up reply actions  

If I recall correctly he had wrist problems while at Ohio State. Don’t think his knees were bad yet.

by VegasBlues on Feb 20, 2012 4:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Right. Hand or wrist or something like that.

by Michael White on Feb 20, 2012 4:06 PM PST up reply actions  

That is what is amazing about Portland, they lost a franchise player in Roy, and a hoped for franchise player in Oden, and yet, they are a very competitive team.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 20, 2012 4:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I think they’d be the best team in the West if Oden was healthy.
but he never will be so its pointless

by Joey Joe on Feb 20, 2012 4:05 PM PST up reply actions  

He’ll be there the whole time.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 4:03 PM PST up reply actions  

He’s moving there today. Starting tomorrow he’ll be reporting from Glendale until they leave.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 20, 2012 4:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Move twice in the span of two months… or don’t pursue my dreams. Man that would be a hard choice. I hate moving.

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Feb 20, 2012 4:08 PM PST up reply actions  

How long could it take to pack a basement?

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Feb 20, 2012 4:10 PM PST up reply actions  

(because isn’t that where all bloggers live?)

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Feb 20, 2012 4:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Not me!

(I live in the attic)

TBLA 2011 Postseason Prediction Champion

by Ivdown on Feb 20, 2012 4:19 PM PST up reply actions  

The Attic is just the hipster name for the Friend Zone

You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.

by G.Scott on Feb 20, 2012 4:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah but JD went from the friend zone to tapping Elliot Reed’s well sculpted back side.

by Grimjack on Feb 20, 2012 4:33 PM PST up reply actions  

he was never fully in the friend zone

You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.

by G.Scott on Feb 20, 2012 4:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh but he is at the end of Episode 1.

by Grimjack on Feb 20, 2012 4:40 PM PST up reply actions  

stupid Jar Jar

You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.

by G.Scott on Feb 20, 2012 4:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I still think Lucas could garner some serious good will if he released a short entitled Death to Jar Jar.

by Grimjack on Feb 20, 2012 4:50 PM PST up reply actions  

He should have redubbed the entirety of Jar Jar’s dialog and/or digitally erased him from the current 3D release. Missed opportunity.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 4:53 PM PST up reply actions  

redubbed with James Earl Jones

You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.

by G.Scott on Feb 20, 2012 4:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Morgan Freeman gets those gigs now.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 4:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I heard this song the other day and thought it a very ivdown song.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 4:36 PM PST up reply actions  

I imagine he dumped a bunch of stuff in storage, then packed for AZ like an extended business trip. At least I hope so.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 4:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah I was wondering about that, is Eric moving to AZ for good or just for the month+ of ST?

Either way, very cool!

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Feb 20, 2012 4:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Just for ST. He’ll be back in the LA area for the start of the baseball season.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 4:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Under

If you don’t count his stuff he needs to do the job like his laptop.

by bhsportsguy on Feb 20, 2012 4:12 PM PST up reply actions  

yep..reminds me of slow jams host

R Dub’s dream was to host his show from a beach in brazil, but then he got the station director job at 92.3…moved to LA…got fired after 2 yrs…then made the move to Brazil

by Joey Joe on Feb 20, 2012 4:13 PM PST up reply actions  

It is truly swesoke

I hope he truly enjoys it and it never becomes a drag on him. I’ll be his lackey 3/15-19.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 4:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Giving up home runs may not be what he needs

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 20, 2012 4:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Not from me, but from the ladies in the bars….


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 4:12 PM PST up reply actions  

o.k. I have wondered about the root of awesoke
but now swesoke? :)

"rudeness is the weak man's imitation of strength"...Eric Hoffer

by BaldBilly on Feb 20, 2012 4:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Double typo

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Feb 20, 2012 4:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Eric once typoed “awesome” as “awesoke” and it caught on.
Keith once typoed “awesoke” as “swesoke” and it caught on, because the first part sounds like “sweet”, so:

ordinary < awesome < awesoke < swesoke


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 4:10 PM PST up reply actions  

< solid <

You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.

by G.Scott on Feb 20, 2012 4:27 PM PST up reply actions  

ALL HAIL THE HYPNO BLOG

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Feb 20, 2012 4:08 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

*clap

clap
clap*

TBLA 2011 Postseason Prediction Champion

by Ivdown on Feb 20, 2012 4:20 PM PST up reply actions  

This thread has made me Drowzee

You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.

by G.Scott on Feb 20, 2012 4:27 PM PST up reply actions  

ALL HAIL

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Feb 20, 2012 4:55 PM PST up reply actions  

that's just awesome

Definitely living the dream as far as realistic dreams go (and not just a billionaire for no reason, lol)

TBLA 2011 Postseason Prediction Champion

by Ivdown on Feb 20, 2012 4:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ve realistically capped my financial dreams at 200 Million.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 20, 2012 4:23 PM PST up reply actions  

If you’re not strong by 20, handsome by 30, or wealthy by 40, you probably will never be.

(not original [and I might have switched the first two])

by kinbote on Feb 20, 2012 4:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ve learned to live with that.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 4:30 PM PST up reply actions  

I was once strong and handsome, but now that I’m weak and ugly, I expect wealth to make up for it but she is proving to be an elusive mistress.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 20, 2012 4:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, I still have three two years (birthday is next month, can’t fool myself) to make a lot of money.

Still chasing the dream of mediocrity

by Humma Kavula on Feb 20, 2012 4:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Damn! 0 for three!

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Feb 20, 2012 5:33 PM PST up reply actions  

But you have wealth in your childr———-, oh wait.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 5:48 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m going to have to carry this forever, huh?

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Feb 20, 2012 6:31 PM PST up reply actions  

how many site views do you need to generate per day..

to be able to create a site that pays you a good wage thru stricly ad sales?

Maybe its more complex…but if you wanted to write for the Dodgers full time and make a living doing it…dont you just need to create something people want to go to everyday?

by Joey Joe on Feb 20, 2012 4:28 PM PST up reply actions  

If Jon during the heyday of the Toaster could not make it financially viable, not sure if anyone could.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 20, 2012 4:43 PM PST up reply actions  

blogs will become more profitable than they used to be, not less. Back then, people flocked to free content and still do, except now bloggers (at least the good ones) are becoming more able to draw advertisers to their sites as they become more viable, sustainable sources of viewers. It’s still a fight, but it’s going in the right direction.

You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.

by G.Scott on Feb 20, 2012 4:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Views can make you money.
You just have to sign up with google ads…or for youtube you can become partners with youtube and make money there too if you post enough vids that gather enough views

by Joey Joe on Feb 20, 2012 4:57 PM PST up reply actions  

How much many is anyone making doing that?


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 4:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Not sure on google ads but some performers make livings off their youtube content

by Joey Joe on Feb 20, 2012 5:01 PM PST up reply actions  

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/11/business/media/11youtube.htmlbut there are no specific numbers on how many individuals are actually earning significant income that way. Even the success story in that article says,

Granted, building an audience online takes time. "I was spending 40 hours a week on YouTube for over a year before I made a dime," Mr. Buckley said — but, at least in some cases, it is paying off.
He also had an initial investment for $2100, not including the computer itself and his on-line access provider, presumably something he was paying for anyway.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 5:11 PM PST up reply actions  

many=money


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 5:02 PM PST up reply actions  

My friend

Earns a living with her food blog site, it averages 5 million visits a month.

by bhsportsguy on Feb 20, 2012 5:11 PM PST up reply actions  

more people eat than are dodger fans

You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.

by G.Scott on Feb 20, 2012 5:13 PM PST up reply actions  

no shit

that’s why a dodger/food blog would get ALL the visitors

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena

by Maddz on Feb 20, 2012 5:14 PM PST up reply actions  

daily updates on dodger dog condiment combinations

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by G.Scott on Feb 20, 2012 5:15 PM PST up reply actions  

That is a huge blog site, if she gets 5 Million visits she deserves to earn a living.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 20, 2012 5:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Quick, without peeking, name any advertisement you’ve seen on TBLA.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 4:48 PM PST up reply actions  

What was the one with the girl with no pants talking about her rack?

Her baseball rack.

Still chasing the dream of mediocrity

by Humma Kavula on Feb 20, 2012 4:49 PM PST up reply actions  

joe mauer

i saw him all summer, but for a couple days there was a girl selling ice tea i think and then it back to joe mauer

by Joey Joe on Feb 20, 2012 5:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Complication #1 with web-based advertising.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 4:58 PM PST up reply actions  

People will come, Dave.

You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.

by G.Scott on Feb 20, 2012 5:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Fusion Pro Glide, Yahoo Fantasy Baseball, Smirnoff

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by G.Scott on Feb 20, 2012 4:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Yahoo Fantasy Baseball was the only one I could think of, and only because it was recent and super damn annoying.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 5:01 PM PST up reply actions  

ads are blocked at home. i just remember those from my work computer using IE7 and no protections. Right now I’m at home using Firefox and NoScript

You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.

by G.Scott on Feb 20, 2012 5:03 PM PST up reply actions  

that one type of liquor that had a funny name

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena

by Maddz on Feb 20, 2012 5:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Budweiser

You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.

by G.Scott on Feb 20, 2012 5:04 PM PST up reply actions  

bacardi oakheart!

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena

by Maddz on Feb 20, 2012 5:04 PM PST up reply actions  

It's a link

Click it.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 5:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I know, I know.

But it’s sort of an advertisement, no?

by DodgerofTrolleys on Feb 20, 2012 5:51 PM PST up reply actions  

not a paying one

You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.

by G.Scott on Feb 20, 2012 5:52 PM PST up reply actions  

and not really selling anything either. I don’t make money from my twitter feed.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 5:53 PM PST up reply actions  

You could sell Slice-O-Matics!

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Feb 20, 2012 6:32 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s a floor wax AND a dessert topping.

by kinbote on Feb 20, 2012 6:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Did you specify

“paying advertisement”? No, or I would not have said that. :)

by DodgerofTrolleys on Feb 20, 2012 5:53 PM PST up reply actions  

go troll elsewhere

You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.

by G.Scott on Feb 20, 2012 5:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Or at least trolley.

by berkowit28 on Feb 20, 2012 6:05 PM PST up reply actions  

remember this.

you have only yourself to blame.

You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.

by G.Scott on Feb 20, 2012 5:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Will Jim Tracy be staying on with the Colorado Rockies for awhile longer?

It indeed appears that Jim Tracy will be in the Rockies org for awhile still. From Colorado’s official twitter feed:
Tweet1

#Rockies & Manager Jim Tracy have a handshake agreement for Tracy to continue to be a part of the organization’s leadership team.
tweet 2:
#Rockies Dan O’Dowd: “We expect this relationship to continue for a number of years.”
tweet 3:
#Rockies Dan O’Dowd:“We are building a culture of value together in a world of performance.”


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 4:29 PM PST reply actions  

Player/Coach!

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by G.Scott on Feb 20, 2012 4:59 PM PST up reply actions  

What exactly does Jim Tracy do to guarantee him a cushy job after he ‘retires’ from coaching?

by Tripon on Feb 20, 2012 5:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Not winning a division or playoff series is the new market inefficiency

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by G.Scott on Feb 20, 2012 5:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I think Antonnini makes between 6 and 10 MLB starts this year with an ERA between 4.10 and 4.40.

You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.

by G.Scott on Feb 20, 2012 4:29 PM PST reply actions  

if he does the dodgers are going to really really suck

and by that i mean win maybe 70 games..if the team has to dig this far to get some starts

by Joey Joe on Feb 20, 2012 4:31 PM PST up reply actions  

but if he puts up 10 starts in that ERA range, it’ll be serviceable

You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.

by G.Scott on Feb 20, 2012 4:33 PM PST up reply actions  

All depends who he is filling in for. If it is for Clayton not even the locusts will save us.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 20, 2012 4:38 PM PST up reply actions  

i think there will be 20-25 starts to be had between Billingsley, Capuano and Harang.

You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.

by G.Scott on Feb 20, 2012 4:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Eovaldi sure hopes so

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 20, 2012 4:42 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah but he won’t be able to take all of them.

You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.

by G.Scott on Feb 20, 2012 4:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Top 5 to start the season: Kid K, Billz, Lilly, Ang, Cap.

Top 5 to finish the season: Kid K, Lilly, Webster, Capt. EO and Rubby.

by Grimjack on Feb 20, 2012 4:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe “finish” if you literally mean the last day. Rubby is out until he isn’t.

You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.

by G.Scott on Feb 20, 2012 4:49 PM PST up reply actions  

i think rubby will sit out this whole year

dont see the incentive for the dodgers of bringing him back early

by Joey Joe on Feb 20, 2012 4:50 PM PST up reply actions  

getting MLB innings in August and September is going to be important for him.

You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.

by G.Scott on Feb 20, 2012 4:51 PM PST up reply actions  

He is on schedule for Aug./Sept. That will not be early. If he can get to the point of seeing game action late this season, MLB or MiLB, that will help determine what his readiness for 2013 will be.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 4:51 PM PST up reply actions  

it’ll help him mentally more than any advantage the front office will get out of it

You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.

by G.Scott on Feb 20, 2012 4:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Can’t agree. With both Ang and Cap under contract for next year, if both can answer the bell, both will be taking the mound. I think.

Still chasing the dream of mediocrity

by Humma Kavula on Feb 20, 2012 4:49 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t see them answering the bell………………….

by Grimjack on Feb 20, 2012 4:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Fair enough, then.

Still chasing the dream of mediocrity

by Humma Kavula on Feb 20, 2012 4:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I think Joey Joe is right here. If Antonini makes that many starts, then how he does in those starts is completely irrelevant because it is an indicator that the team will have fallen apart.

Still chasing the dream of mediocrity

by Humma Kavula on Feb 20, 2012 4:48 PM PST up reply actions  

See also, Adam Kennedy starts at 1b.

by kinbote on Feb 20, 2012 4:49 PM PST up reply actions  

do you think what i’ve predicted for him is any better or worse than what Harang is expected to do? Or what Billingsley did last year?

You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.

by G.Scott on Feb 20, 2012 4:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Not necessarily, but it’s not the point. They gotta go through many guys before Antonini gets those starts: Eovaldi, certainly; Webster, probably; Ely, maybe. By the time you get desperate enough to hand Antonini 6-10 starts, even if he pitches relatively well (or well enough, like you indicated), it’s a sign that the team went through big, big problems.

Still chasing the dream of mediocrity

by Humma Kavula on Feb 20, 2012 4:52 PM PST up reply actions  

my theory is Webster will be left in the minors and Ely didn’t even get a big league spring training invitation. I think he may be SP #8 or 9 right now.

You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.

by G.Scott on Feb 20, 2012 4:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Start with your modem, work up to your liver.

You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.

by G.Scott on Feb 20, 2012 4:56 PM PST up reply actions  

VegasBlues suggests stopping short of that.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 4:58 PM PST up reply actions  

As long as he holds off until after I get my liver then more power to him…

/joking

by VegasBlues on Feb 20, 2012 6:22 PM PST up reply actions  

You’re suggesting that Antonini is the #7 starter then?

Could be, I suppose. I don’t know one way or the other.

Still chasing the dream of mediocrity

by Humma Kavula on Feb 20, 2012 4:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Antonini is on the 40-man right now, Ely is not. Doesn’t mean room couldn’t be made if/when the time comes, but the odds may be more in Antonini’s favor at the moment.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 4:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Right

You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.

by G.Scott on Feb 20, 2012 4:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Did the Dodgers have to put Antonini on the 40-man or risk losing him in the Rule 5?

If so, that explains that: if somebody takes Ely, oh well, good luck; gotta keep Antonini in the system over him. But if it comes down to oh-shit-we-need-a-starter in real ballgames in May…….

Still chasing the dream of mediocrity

by Humma Kavula on Feb 20, 2012 4:56 PM PST up reply actions  

i also think he’s more likely to make 20 appearances as a lefty reliever than a single start, so there’s that.

You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.

by G.Scott on Feb 20, 2012 4:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah I think it's both things, I think he was a Rule 5 loss risk

and they think he can be a LHRP for now. I don’t expect more than an emergency start or two, but could be in the pen more often…

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Feb 20, 2012 5:10 PM PST up reply actions  

25

Number of big league homers for our projected starting infield last year (catcher included).

by kinbote on Feb 20, 2012 4:46 PM PST reply actions  

Shoot, Loney and Uribe will hit that many all by themselves

/probablynotbutifithappensdon’tshowthehashtagwhencuttingandpastingthisawesomeprediction

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 20, 2012 5:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Loney 12
MEllis 7
Uribe 4
AJEliis 2
Dee 0

by kinbote on Feb 20, 2012 6:44 PM PST up reply actions  

loney is hitting at least 36

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by G.Scott on Feb 20, 2012 6:45 PM PST up reply actions  

All I want is Dee to hit one.

by fbihop on Feb 20, 2012 6:50 PM PST up reply actions  

We need to surgically remove that part of Loney’s brain that is in charge of “thinking” while in the batter’s box.

by kinbote on Feb 20, 2012 6:50 PM PST up reply actions  

so, trade his driving brain with his hitting brain

You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.

by G.Scott on Feb 20, 2012 6:51 PM PST up reply actions  

“All right James clear your mind”

“Done”

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 20, 2012 6:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Clear Your Mind

You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.

by G.Scott on Feb 20, 2012 6:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Reminds me of “Forget everything you know about slipcovers.”

by fbihop on Feb 20, 2012 7:11 PM PST up reply actions  

47

Number of big league homers for our projected starting seven last year (Kemp’s 39 not included).

by kinbote on Feb 20, 2012 4:48 PM PST reply actions  

Ethier 11
Rivera 11

by kinbote on Feb 20, 2012 6:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Starting Depth Chart

1) Kershaw
2) Billingsley
3) Lilly
4) Harang
5) Capuano
6) Eovaldi
7) Webster*
8) Withrow
9) Antonini
10) Fife

*Not on 40-man

I might be overrating Webster’s chances here but if someone gets DL’ed for a considerable amount of time, he’s one of the favorites IMO. If it’s for a spot start or something, then we’ll probably see one of the lower ceiling guys.

by silverwidow on Feb 20, 2012 5:18 PM PST reply actions  

That depth chart only means something based on how they do this spring. If Webby is pitching well he should be right there, but if he’s pitching like he did in August he’s not coming close to pitching in a major league game.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 20, 2012 5:19 PM PST up reply actions  

On AA performance

Antonini gets the nod right now.

by bhsportsguy on Feb 20, 2012 5:32 PM PST up reply actions  

if any of the 5 go down for any reason, and he’s available, Eovaldi gets the call.

if after that, one of the starting 5 go down with a 60 day DL thing, I’d expect Webster, assuming he’s performing and available.

if after Eovaldi is in the rotation one of the starters goes down for a 15 day DL something or other, I’d expect Anonini to get the start.

You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.

by G.Scott on Feb 20, 2012 5:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Based on AA stats and service time

I think Withrow gets the nod before Webster. Better FIP, better ERA, better K rate, and an extra year of experience in AA.

@TElciram

by Taylor Maricle on Feb 20, 2012 5:47 PM PST up reply actions  

If they need one of those guys in, say , mid-June, and one’s been great in AA so far in 2012 and the other sucked so far, which one do you think they call up?


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 5:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Obviously the one that's been great.

But Webster isn’t that guy yet, so it’s in the air as to what 2012 will bring.

@TElciram

by Taylor Maricle on Feb 20, 2012 7:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Webster went face first into an innings count wall last year. He’ll be fine, he’ll see time, we’ll all be pissed about something else.

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by G.Scott on Feb 20, 2012 7:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Right.

The most entertaining scenario for me would be Harang and one of Lilly/Capuano getting injured for a while and giving both Webster and Withrow time to shine and hopefully prove themselves to be MLB starters.

@TElciram

by Taylor Maricle on Feb 20, 2012 7:07 PM PST up reply actions  

the most entertaining would be the total collapse of the Angels and subsequent merger of the Angels assets into Dodger property.

You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.

by G.Scott on Feb 20, 2012 7:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Giving Withrow MLB innings when he has trouble throwing strikes to AA hitters while in the middle of a mechanics overhaul would be a huge disservice to his progress. That said, the timing of his career path suggests this year is the year it clicks and I could totally see him being #6 rather than #10.

You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.

by G.Scott on Feb 20, 2012 5:50 PM PST up reply actions  

don’t use actual logic, it ruins the fun

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena

by Maddz on Feb 20, 2012 5:55 PM PST up reply actions  

No I think the Dodgers are gonna call up guys that haven’t been successful in AA /holds breath

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 20, 2012 6:06 PM PST up reply actions  

there'll probably be a veteran ex major leaguer

at AAA signed at some point to take one of those 7-9 spots…like an Eric Milton or dos Ortiz

by Joey Joe on Feb 20, 2012 5:53 PM PST up reply actions  

I’d actually be surprised if that happened based on the state of our 40 man roster

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by G.Scott on Feb 20, 2012 5:56 PM PST up reply actions  

and spring training starting, well, tomorrow. though it could happen, I don’t think it makes sense. The context of having Estes, Milton, Ortizii in camp was "we don’t know if James McDonald is ready (he wasn’t), we don’t know if Scott Elbert is ready (he wasn’t), we don’t really know for sure if Clayton is for real (he was), we don’t know if 2009 was a Billingsley fluke wasted season or if that’s what we should expect (we still don’t know).

You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.

by G.Scott on Feb 20, 2012 5:58 PM PST up reply actions  

And there’s no one of that ilk in the NRI list really either.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 5:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Right

if we were going to do that, we could have certainly done it by now.

You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.

by G.Scott on Feb 20, 2012 6:02 PM PST up reply actions  

All right, I’ll buy Antonini as #7 — it makes sense both based on his solid performance last year and also to give the younger guys more seasoning.

Webster and Withrow is a toss-up; maybe the latter has a slight edge since he’s already on the roster. But Webby’s control is so much better. Who knows.

Fife is the longest of long shots to start for us since he pretty much sucks.

by silverwidow on Feb 20, 2012 6:07 PM PST up reply actions  

the most important thing is to remember decisions are made based on context, and the context of a baseball team changes damn near daily during the season.

You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.

by G.Scott on Feb 20, 2012 6:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Agree. Would like to think Eo is #6, but in reality it could be a AAA-stashed NRI for all we know.

by kinbote on Feb 20, 2012 6:45 PM PST up reply actions  

depends on who gets hurt, for how long, and how he’s pitching in AAA

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by G.Scott on Feb 20, 2012 6:49 PM PST up reply actions  

MLBN top 25 team killers

No. 14: Koufax vs. the Mets

No. 11: JR Richards vs. the Dodgers

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 20, 2012 6:17 PM PST reply actions  

JR was just brutal against us.


- The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 20, 2012 6:20 PM PST up reply actions  

No. 3: Stan the Man vs the Dodgers

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 20, 2012 6:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Stan Musial vs anyone

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by G.Scott on Feb 20, 2012 6:27 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah

but Brooklyn fans gave him his nickname

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 20, 2012 6:29 PM PST up reply actions  

for giggles

No. 1: George Brett vs the Yankees

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 20, 2012 6:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Strange

Stan Musial’s career splits page on baseball-reference shows he played in 15 stadiums, 3 of which were Dodgers home stadiums.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=musiast01&year=Career&t=b#site::none

You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.

by G.Scott on Feb 20, 2012 6:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Humma should be along soon with his Musial trivieum.

by kinbote on Feb 20, 2012 6:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Ebbets Field, Coliseum, and Dodger Stadium?

by VegasBlues on Feb 20, 2012 6:50 PM PST up reply actions  

right

You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.

by G.Scott on Feb 20, 2012 6:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Also shows that he destroyed the Giants at an almost identical clip.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Feb 20, 2012 9:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Man did I hate it when he pitched against us. Seemed like he was on a different level and the Dodger hitters were shitting bricks the whole time they were in the box.

Mike Scott was that way when he had his A game for them as well; seemed like the Dodgers couldn’t hit him.

by KellyStephen on Feb 20, 2012 7:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Someday

Kershaw v. Giants

@TElciram

by Taylor Maricle on Feb 20, 2012 7:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Someday Now

Kershaw v. Giants

by KellyStephen on Feb 20, 2012 7:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Someday he'll be mentioned on a list like this.

I know he completely destroys them already.

@TElciram

by Taylor Maricle on Feb 20, 2012 8:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Clayton’s tOPS+ against the Tigers (after 2 starts) is -8.

Most of the teams he has struggled against are in the central time zone.

tOPS+ vs NL West: SFG: 59, AZ: 91, COL 128, SDP 84.

You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.

by G.Scott on Feb 20, 2012 8:29 PM PST up reply actions  

128 is a really high number, compared to -8. That’s like an absolute value of 136.

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena

by Maddz on Feb 20, 2012 9:36 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t believe in mathonomics.

You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.

by G.Scott on Feb 20, 2012 9:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Knicks are majoring in Linglish Linerature right now.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 20, 2012 10:00 PM PST up reply actions  

JR Richards?

not Brett Myers?

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Feb 20, 2012 8:08 PM PST up reply actions  

no

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 20, 2012 8:12 PM PST up reply actions  

If they did not have Larry Jaster against the Dodgers someone did not do their homework

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 20, 2012 8:12 PM PST up reply actions  

they only did 25

slackers

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 20, 2012 8:13 PM PST up reply actions  

this is either a joke or your memory is wrong.

You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.

by G.Scott on Feb 20, 2012 8:30 PM PST up reply actions  

B-R showed his career split against the Dodgers was an .899 OPS against or something.

The third option of course is “I did this wrong”

You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.

by G.Scott on Feb 20, 2012 9:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I think the link above yours can stand on it’s own.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 20, 2012 9:02 PM PST up reply actions  

yep. I can’t for the life of me figure out what i was looking at. My apologies.

You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.

by G.Scott on Feb 20, 2012 9:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Career OPS against vs. the Dodgers was .593, a tOPS+ of 68.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Feb 20, 2012 9:28 PM PST up reply actions  

From that thread:

Kemp for Rasmus who blinks first

by meercatjohn on Aug 31, 2010 11:50 AM PDT actions /blockquote>

LOL

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Feb 20, 2012 9:34 PM PST up reply actions  

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 20, 2012 9:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, at least we know you can trade Edwin Jackson for Rasmus.

by Tripon on Feb 20, 2012 9:38 PM PST up reply actions  

be funny if he got traded.

You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.

by G.Scott on Feb 20, 2012 6:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Lin is 5 for 15 shooting. That might have something to do with the teams poor play. That and Deron Williams is torching him.

Carmelo is turning the ball over way too much but it is his first game back.

by VegasBlues on Feb 20, 2012 6:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Lin

21/9/7

only 3 turnovers and 4 steals…

Melo was horrible.
This performance is going to ramp up the trade Carmelo talk.

by Joey Joe on Feb 20, 2012 7:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I usually hate NY teams

but I would love to see the Knicks beat the Heat in the playoffs. I don’t think they will, but if healthy they have a really talented roster.

"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."

by Pure Azure on Feb 20, 2012 6:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Watching the first episode of Luck on HBO.

I think I just saw Bill Plaschke.

by fbihop on Feb 20, 2012 6:48 PM PST reply actions  

yep

cameo

"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."

by Pure Azure on Feb 20, 2012 6:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Why would you ruin a good show with Plaschke?

by fbihop on Feb 20, 2012 6:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Did Stu Nahan ruin Rocky?

by kinbote on Feb 20, 2012 6:56 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m sure he’s a better actor then a writer

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 20, 2012 8:26 PM PST up reply actions  

He’s in another one too. I’m not abandoning it because of him though. That’s Keanu Reeves territory.

by kinbote on Feb 20, 2012 6:51 PM PST up reply actions  

If you haven't seen The Third Man

it’s just starting on TCM. Watch it

It's gettin' so a businessman can't expect no return from a fixed fight. Now, if you can't trust a fix, what can you trust?

by mleadman on Feb 20, 2012 7:05 PM PST reply actions  

YES

I am watching it, too. Seen it before, but g/f never has, and since I don’t have a soccer game tonight and she doesn’t have her writer’s group, we are watching it. (Screw the Lakers game.)

One of the greats.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Feb 20, 2012 7:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Really great. The way Harry Lime (Orson Welles) is revealed by a light switch – there’s never been a greater appearance ever. The chase in the sewers – it’s been copied several hundred times – but never done better. And it’s faithful not just to the detail but to the character of the Graham Greene original – not so surprising in that Greene also wrote the screenplay. The perfect movie.

by berkowit28 on Feb 21, 2012 12:02 AM PST up reply actions  

define long term

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Feb 20, 2012 8:09 PM PST up reply actions  

his words

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 20, 2012 8:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Longer term than Colletti will be around, at least?

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Feb 20, 2012 8:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Will Ned be fired before late July?

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Feb 20, 2012 9:21 PM PST up reply actions  

That's probably the over/under month

New ownership may take longer to transition “in” than we’d like, so who knows… but before season’s end I’d say is likely.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Feb 20, 2012 9:40 PM PST up reply actions  

don't take this too seriously but

He makes about $11m this year. Give him another two years at $15m per? Tear up up the 2012 contract and call it a three-year $42m deal?

by kinbote on Feb 20, 2012 8:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Lakers up 29-7 at end of 1st Q vs Blazers

by Joey Joe on Feb 20, 2012 8:09 PM PST reply actions  

Portland should have worn their “Brick City” jerseys in the first quarter. 3-17 from the field (17.6%)

by KellyStephen on Feb 20, 2012 8:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Where was this Lakers team last night?

Fisher still playing horribly though.

by VegasBlues on Feb 20, 2012 8:10 PM PST reply actions  

They were on the road last night, where they

by KellyStephen on Feb 20, 2012 8:12 PM PST up reply actions  

lol

thought you were asking….

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 20, 2012 8:13 PM PST up reply actions  

No, just a quick post. Having trouble w/my touch pad.

by KellyStephen on Feb 20, 2012 8:14 PM PST up reply actions  

yes

they were in Phoenix last night

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 20, 2012 8:12 PM PST up reply actions  

4 touchdowns and they're tied, not over yet

Seriously, Blazers, this is U -G-L-Y, they ain’t got no alibi.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Feb 20, 2012 8:18 PM PST up reply actions  

WIth this schedule some teams are simply going to have nights like this. We hit them last week on a back to back to back, they were clearly the better team for three quarters, then simply lost their legs. Looks like they have yet to recover them. Wait until after the all-star game and things get real ugly in April.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 20, 2012 8:26 PM PST up reply actions  

This is their 33rd game in under 60 days.

by VegasBlues on Feb 20, 2012 8:40 PM PST up reply actions  

you can’t quantify fatigue, so it’s not recognized by the court of Joey Joe.

You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.

by G.Scott on Feb 20, 2012 8:43 PM PST up reply actions  

They do have a lower payroll than the Lakers.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 20, 2012 8:48 PM PST up reply actions  

cumulative fatigue is going to be a problem, you can count on it. Not one NBA player has ever had to deal with a schedule like this.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 20, 2012 9:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Clippers picked the wrong year to have two all-stars.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 20, 2012 9:09 PM PST up reply actions  

“Can’t Lin ’Em All” —Actual headline on nypost.com

by kinbote on Feb 20, 2012 8:52 PM PST reply actions  

They’ll never top (or, I guess, fall lower than) “AMASIAN!”

by fbihop on Feb 20, 2012 9:15 PM PST up reply actions  

ESPN totally proved that wrong.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 20, 2012 9:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm waiting for

Rinsanity

It's gettin' so a businessman can't expect no return from a fixed fight. Now, if you can't trust a fix, what can you trust?

by mleadman on Feb 20, 2012 9:20 PM PST up reply actions  

With a Head & Shoulders tie-in?

by KellyStephen on Feb 20, 2012 9:21 PM PST up reply actions  

A well known musician from Minneapolis admits to loving Jeremy Lin:

Princesanity.

by fbihop on Feb 20, 2012 9:26 PM PST up reply actions  

New bicycle model released in his honor: Schwinnsanity

You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.

by G.Scott on Feb 20, 2012 9:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Wallace Shawn thinks his story is Linconcievable.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Feb 20, 2012 9:29 PM PST up reply actions  

ha ha

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 20, 2012 9:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Can’t top that one.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 20, 2012 9:47 PM PST up reply actions  

“TIME TO MAKE ANOTHER RACIST LIN JOKE.” – ESPN

by Tripon on Feb 20, 2012 9:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Is Jamey Wright this year’s Lance Cormier?

by kinbote on Feb 20, 2012 9:10 PM PST reply actions  

Find out tomorrow at 06:00AM

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 20, 2012 9:12 PM PST up reply actions  

You moved in?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 20, 2012 9:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Just about. Need to pick up a wireless card tomorrow (no internet at the place I am staying) but other than that I am all set.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 20, 2012 9:48 PM PST up reply actions  

so exciting!

G and I should be there from the 10th to the 17th or so, and I would like to buy you a beer or three.

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena

by Maddz on Feb 20, 2012 9:48 PM PST up reply actions  

I am not opposed to this practice.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 20, 2012 9:50 PM PST up reply actions  

United States has a plethora of good amateur singers who have tough back stories.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 20, 2012 9:13 PM PST reply actions  

Its the new market inefficiency.

by fbihop on Feb 20, 2012 9:15 PM PST up reply actions  

From MSTI
* Ownership update: the list of 11 current bidders is expected to be sliced to five on Thursday, Feb 23. Those five finalists will go through a more rigorous MLB approval process, and then the winner will be selected by Frank McCourt, who has a maximum of 40 days from now to announce who he has selected. Can’t come soon enough.

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 20, 2012 9:25 PM PST reply actions  

Time is coming quick.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 20, 2012 9:27 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah

TIME FOR DODGER BASEBALLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!

:)

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 20, 2012 9:33 PM PST up reply actions  

At a sports bar called MVP. Was going to settle for Starbucks but they closed at 10pm…a half hour ago. Stupid time difference.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 20, 2012 9:29 PM PST reply actions  

What is Tim Brown talking about?
TEMPE, Ariz. – New to the job, new to the division, new to the left coast, Albert Pujols has a lot to catch up on.

The sun sets pink and orange over the sea.

Designated freeway lanes are little more than suggestions.

If you turn your cap backward while ignoring the designated freeway lanes in your Beamer, that’s known as "keeping it real."

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ti-brown_albert_pujols_angels_spring_training_022012

by Tripon on Feb 20, 2012 9:30 PM PST reply actions  

Unlike in St. Louis, where things are just a little simpler.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 20, 2012 9:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Sometimes writers just aren’t witty they are witless

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 20, 2012 9:31 PM PST up reply actions  

You should ask GScott if designated freeway lanes are but mere suggestions.

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena

by Maddz on Feb 20, 2012 9:39 PM PST up reply actions  

oh, did he get a diamond lane ticket?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 20, 2012 9:39 PM PST up reply actions  

onramp carpool lane riding solo.

You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.

by G.Scott on Feb 20, 2012 9:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Six weeks between now and opening day. A lot of space to fill and only so much to write about.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 20, 2012 9:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, but at least include the cliches that are actually true. I have never heard of the freeway lanes being ‘suggestions’.

by Tripon on Feb 20, 2012 9:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Making a joke about how everyone drives super fast in L.A. would have been more apt.

by Tripon on Feb 20, 2012 9:53 PM PST up reply actions  

how can we drive super fast in the super heavy traffic?!

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena

by Maddz on Feb 20, 2012 9:56 PM PST up reply actions  

That feeling when you drive 85 and suddenly have to screech to a halt due to rush hour traffic.

by Tripon on Feb 20, 2012 9:58 PM PST up reply actions  

is “that feeling” the new “that moment”?

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena

by Maddz on Feb 20, 2012 10:05 PM PST up reply actions  

That or ‘My Face When’

by Tripon on Feb 20, 2012 10:07 PM PST up reply actions  

To Portland credit they are only down 12 14 now

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 20, 2012 9:34 PM PST reply actions  

yeah they came back at least to their credit

in NBA even when down 30, if it’s early you can still make a game of it.

Joey Crawford also making his presence felt, haha.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Feb 20, 2012 9:42 PM PST up reply actions  

(not saying calls all favoring Portland, just generally that they've been slowing game down now

calling a lot more stuff, ticky tack on both sides for most part)

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Feb 20, 2012 9:44 PM PST up reply actions  

The NBA.

Where refball happens.

by Tripon on Feb 20, 2012 9:44 PM PST up reply actions  

K3vo was excited to let everyone know this kid has committed to UA

You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.

by G.Scott on Feb 20, 2012 10:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Chris Paul’s cape showing some wear and tear.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 20, 2012 10:02 PM PST reply actions  

Hell of a night for Mo though.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 20, 2012 10:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Trying to fit 66 games in a 4 month schedule is apparently killer on the body.

by Tripon on Feb 20, 2012 10:03 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m trying to think of an appropriate, non-bitchy response and utterly failing

I pitched to Matt Kemp, and all I got was this stupid earned run.
@maddzgoesrawr @arenafitness @madeleine_arena

by Maddz on Feb 20, 2012 10:07 PM PST up reply actions  

“Yes, it is”

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 20, 2012 10:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Plaschke said

he was the mvp

at least that was the headline of his article that i didn’t read

"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."

by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 20, 2012 10:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Plaschke also wrote a column claiming the starting center for UCLA is a fatass.

by Tripon on Feb 20, 2012 10:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Only the second time all season Clippers have lost two straight (also December 28-30)

by Eric Stephen on Feb 20, 2012 10:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Greetings from Mumbai

where I am sure I could be a kick ass Cricket Bowler if I only had someway to fuse my elbow straight

by Hollywood Joe on Feb 20, 2012 10:25 PM PST reply actions  

hey Joe, whatdya know

You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.

by G.Scott on Feb 20, 2012 10:27 PM PST up reply actions  

that the life of a vampire is not all it is cracked up to be
that a Balinese massage is a good choice at the Mumbai Trident
that when an Indian guy says it’s spicy, it’s really hot
that the bar on the roof of the four seasons is like drinking scotch on the wing of a plane
that the rich and lovely in Mumbai are truly rich and lovely
that when in doubt, order Chivas rocks. Hard for the bartender to screw that up and will be less than the 50 bucks they will nail you for if you order a single malt
that few things are better than traveling with your wife when mostly you don’t

Now, what in the hell is going on in Baseball?

by Hollywood Joe on Feb 20, 2012 10:35 PM PST up reply actions  

it’s time for Dodgers Baseball

Pitchers and catchers report in 9 and a half hours.

You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.

by G.Scott on Feb 20, 2012 10:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Porto’s

You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.

by G.Scott on Feb 20, 2012 10:40 PM PST up reply actions  

it’s pretty good though

You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.

by G.Scott on Feb 20, 2012 10:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Westchester Bakery is a little closer to you and is pretty good also

You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.

by G.Scott on Feb 20, 2012 10:43 PM PST up reply actions  

though a review on yelp says “its not the traditional sweet ricotta filling, but rather vanilla custard with whip cream on the ends”

You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.

by G.Scott on Feb 20, 2012 10:44 PM PST up reply actions  

the bakery is good, i can’t speak for the cannoli

You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.

by G.Scott on Feb 20, 2012 10:45 PM PST up reply actions  

mostly, i like Porto’s

You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.

by G.Scott on Feb 20, 2012 10:47 PM PST up reply actions  

vanilla custard with whip cream on the ends

that is like ordering a Belgian ale and instead someone pours you a Zima

by Hollywood Joe on Feb 20, 2012 10:46 PM PST up reply actions  

tough question

the best cannoli’s in LA used to be at a bakery in Encino that recently closed, Nicolosi. It had been there all my life and a mainstay of many a visit from relatives. it was a devastating closure

Most other italian bakeries do a decent version, but all a little “meh” compared to Nicolosi which was a world class one

Heard decent things about an Italian Bakery in eagle rock, there is one in Culver city too, Sorento.

Important thing with all of these is to make sure they are fresh. If filled too long the shells get mushed

by Hollywood Joe on Feb 20, 2012 10:44 PM PST up reply actions  

there’s this little bakery off the beaten path in SF’s north beach, where the grandma’s faded picture is up above the register and all that. Got hooked there. Get cravings now and again

by Josie Becker on Feb 20, 2012 10:47 PM PST up reply actions  

sounds right – sounds so right. Cannoli are not simply Italian, they are Sicilian. So you know where I stand on them. Hardly an holiday or family event happens without Cannoli

if you can buy shells, I can hook you up with how to make the filling and you will never want for cannoli again

frying shells, deep frying anything, is not something I like to do much of

by Hollywood Joe on Feb 20, 2012 10:51 PM PST up reply actions  

that when an Indian guy says it’s spicy, it’s really hot

Always listen to the locals.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 20, 2012 10:45 PM PST up reply actions  

mostly, but yeah

another thing, traditional Indian formal wear, is a lot like wearing the pajamas Scrooge slept in without the cool beanie

by Hollywood Joe on Feb 20, 2012 10:47 PM PST up reply actions  

The key to save face while eating the too spicy food is to never let them see you profusely sweat.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 20, 2012 10:49 PM PST up reply actions  

i cry

You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.

by G.Scott on Feb 20, 2012 10:52 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah – I can handle it

years ago, I was at lunch with some Korean execs that I was politely fighting with over business deal and I ordered the hottest thing ever. It was a trial to eat it all, but I did, with nary a word other than how tasty it was and that it really wasn’t that hot

by Hollywood Joe on Feb 20, 2012 10:52 PM PST up reply actions  

There’s one Indian bowler who has got a dispesnation for his arm only being able to open to within 15º of straight,

by berkowit28 on Feb 21, 2012 12:06 AM PST up reply actions  

Pitchers and catchers report tomorrow AM people. This is getting real.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 20, 2012 10:34 PM PST reply actions  

We’re at Defcon Blue

You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.

by G.Scott on Feb 20, 2012 10:35 PM PST up reply actions  

sounds like a military porn channel

by Hollywood Joe on Feb 20, 2012 10:36 PM PST up reply actions  

When we eventually have the annual True Blue LA Conference, I want to call is Defcon Blue

by Eric Stephen on Feb 20, 2012 10:37 PM PST up reply actions  

its already tomorrow here and still no sighting of either

by Hollywood Joe on Feb 20, 2012 10:35 PM PST up reply actions  

what about ethier?

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Feb 20, 2012 10:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I think I saw him getting a “Balinese”

by Hollywood Joe on Feb 20, 2012 10:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Can’t wait for the season to start

by LAL32 on Feb 20, 2012 10:36 PM PST up reply actions  

ABC7’s sports report lead with Pujols taking BP. Lakers and Clippers be damned : )

by Josie Becker on Feb 20, 2012 10:38 PM PST up reply actions  

There was an outside chance I could have been at Pujols’ presser on Monday but that would have required me to use last week to get the “pack shit up and move to storage” plan rolling rather than…not doing that.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 20, 2012 10:46 PM PST up reply actions  

on the way to softball, we saw a Pujols billboard that read “El Hombre”. I get going after the hispanic population of la and orange county, but wasn’t that a st. louis specific nickname?

by Josie Becker on Feb 20, 2012 10:51 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s what makes it a truly brilliant troll.

Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant

by regfairfield on Feb 20, 2012 10:53 PM PST up reply actions  

nothing matters anymore Josie, if you can brand it, you can sell it

by Hollywood Joe on Feb 20, 2012 10:53 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm going to stick to calling him Pujols

or maybe “guy who is really good at baseball” but thats a bit long winded

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Feb 20, 2012 10:56 PM PST up reply actions  

how much shit did you actually "move"

Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride

by nolander on Feb 20, 2012 10:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Everything in my apartment

by Eric Stephen on Feb 20, 2012 10:55 PM PST up reply actions  

If you are asking what I moved to Arizona…just some clothes, my desktop computer and my laptop and a few books and DVDs. Spartan lifestyle.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 20, 2012 10:56 PM PST up reply actions  

condo made of stone-ah?

by Hollywood Joe on Feb 20, 2012 10:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Renting a room for six weeks. Only downside is the key I got has the U of A logo on it. Bunch of bullshit.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 20, 2012 10:58 PM PST up reply actions  

I think Spartan’s were required to marry by your age, you got a wife in tow?

by Hollywood Joe on Feb 20, 2012 11:00 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s my real motive for going to spring training.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 20, 2012 11:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Eric Stephen = landing spot for jilted annies

by Hollywood Joe on Feb 20, 2012 11:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Are you moving back after Spring Training?

by Tripon on Feb 20, 2012 10:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeaaaaaaah.

Pasadena’s where it’s at.

@TElciram

by Taylor Maricle on Feb 20, 2012 11:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Fuck the parking enforcement in the city though

by Eric Stephen on Feb 20, 2012 11:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I’d rather they raise taxes and let us park in peace

damn revenue generation scam

by Hollywood Joe on Feb 20, 2012 11:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh, the parking in the street thing?

I grew up here so that seemed normal to me. Me and my mom were shocked when my girlfriend told me that i wouldn’t get a ticket for parking overnight outside her house.

@TElciram

by Taylor Maricle on Feb 20, 2012 11:10 PM PST up reply actions  

What? And leave the beautiful High Desert?
(Good move.)

Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

by iiidown on Feb 20, 2012 11:03 PM PST up reply actions  

a poo holes presser

does not sound like my kind of party

/sorry, you might get a lot of that from me

by Hollywood Joe on Feb 20, 2012 11:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Booked my hotel and got tickets for the games on the 16th and 18th. Playing it by ear to figure out what I’m going to do on the 17th.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Feb 20, 2012 11:03 PM PST reply actions  

drink hard enough on the 16th and you won’t need to figure it out

by Hollywood Joe on Feb 20, 2012 11:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I know this kind of thinking is frowned upon here, but I really am not much of a drinker.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Feb 20, 2012 11:06 PM PST up reply actions  

dry is ok too

golf is always a nice fall back

catch another game somewhere else

or Pizzeria Bianco, which is worth the hassle and then some. Might be the best Pizza in the ENTIRE US of A

by Hollywood Joe on Feb 20, 2012 11:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe you can play bingo.

by Tripon on Feb 20, 2012 11:04 PM PST up reply actions  

On the 17th, go watch the Dodgers play the Rockies at Salt River at Talking Stick!

by Eric Stephen on Feb 20, 2012 11:06 PM PST up reply actions  

this sounds like a winner

with some Pizzeria Bianco mixed in

by Hollywood Joe on Feb 20, 2012 11:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I really should check that place out while in town. I ditched BH two years ago when he met some friends at Pizzeria Blanco so I could go watch the Dodgers’ second game of the day, a night game at Camelback Ranch.

The resulting karma: one pair of shoes out of the rotation, and a barefoot morning saunter through Target to purchase the very flip flops I am wearing right now.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 20, 2012 11:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes

But that night forever tarnished the new car appeal of my vehicle.

But you got a ride back with Josh Suchon.

by bhsportsguy on Feb 20, 2012 11:13 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

We will either go to Salty Walking Stick or the night game at Camelback, but probably not both. It depends on A) which tickets drop in price first and B) our other plans (do we want to go out during the day or night). St. Patty’s Day is always a weird one to call.

"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."

by Nolij on Feb 20, 2012 11:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh, forgot about that

I avoid bars on St. Patty’s

by Hollywood Joe on Feb 21, 2012 12:12 AM PST up reply actions  

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