2012 NL West Offseason Review: Colorado Rockies
by Eric Stephen on Feb 8, 2012 6:00 AM PST
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PrintOur next stop in our tour of the National League West brings us to the Colorado Rockies. Here is a look at the offseason for the Dodgers' mile high foes, who were extremely busy during the winter.
Five Questions
| Colorado Rockies | |
| 2011 Record: | 73-89 |
| Division Finish: |
Fourth Place, 21 GB |
| 2012 at Dodger Stadium: |
May 11-13, Aug 6-8, Sep 28-30 |
| 2012 Dodgers at Coors Field: | Apr 30-May 2, Jun 1-3, Aug 27-29 |
| SB Nation coverage: | Purple Row SB Nation Denver |
1) When will Jorge De La Rosa be back?
Likely some time in early June.
The southpaw who was a key cog for the 92-win playoff team in 2009, with 193 strikeouts and 16 wins in 32 starts, has made just 30 combined starts in the last two seasons. He underwent Tommy John surgery last season and is on a strict rehab program that has him throwing only bullpen sessions now.
The Rockies are trying to harness the competitiveness in De La Rosa that caused him to downplay an arm injury for a whopping eight starts before he was finally shut down in late May.
"It was real cold that day in Pittsburgh, and I felt something in my arm," De La Rosa told Thomas Harding of MLB.com last week. "I said it was a blister and they took me out of the game. I told them I would be OK. But I was not. It was weakness. The next day, I felt pain when I woke up."
Harding reported that the Rockies don't expect De La Rosa to throw a pitch for the major league team until late May or early June, which is about two months earlier than the Dodgers are expected to get their De La Rosa back from Tommy John surgery, knock on wood.
2) Was Marco Scutaro the steal of the offseason?
As much as a 36-year old making $6 million can be, sure. Scutaro is a shortstop by trade, but the Boston Red Sox felt the need to shed salary (not a phrase heard often in the last decade or so) and the Rockies were more than happy to oblige. To complete the trade Colorado sent fungible pitcher Clayton Mortensen to Boston, leaving Clayton Kershaw one player away from ridding the National League West of his namesakes.
Scutaro, who has accumulated between 12.7 (FanGraphs) and 13.3 (Baseball-Reference) wins above replacement over the last four seasons, will play second base for the Rockies. He hit .299/.358/.423 in 113 games for the Red Sox last season, and has a .350 on-base percentage since turning 30, averaging 54 walks per season for the last six campaigns.
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| Jason Giambi had more home runs (13) in 2011 than James Loney (12) and Andre Ethier (11), in about a quarter of the plate appearances. |
3) Will Kevin Slowey put a framed Colorado Rockies jersey in his game room?
I can still remember being flabbergasted when learning that Reggie Jackson played a single season for the Baltimore Orioles, and envision a similar fate for someone 20 years from now when they ask, "Wait, Kevin Slowey was a Rockie?"
Slowey's time with the organization was just 45 days, but a cursory glance at his Baseball-Reference page will be confusing as he never threw a pitch for the Rockies. Colorado traded pitcher Daniel Turpen to Minnesota on December 6 for the arbitration-eligible Slowey, who was a candidate to be non-tendered by the Twins. Then on January 20, perhaps after wondering how badly a homer-prone fly ball pitcher might fare at Coors Field, the Rockies pounced on Cleveland's need to replace the former Fausto Carmona and dealt Slowey and $1.25 million to the Indians for Zach Putnam, a 24-year old reliever with nearly a strikeout per inning in his minor league career.
4) Am I rooting for Jamie Moyer to make the Rockies in spring training?
Absolutely!
There are few things in baseball that would please me more than a 50-year old pitcher, and Moyer's chances of pitching at 50, in 2013, would be greatly enhanced by him pitching and pitching well in 2012 at age 49. I was in attendance at Petco Park in April 2006 when 47-year old Julio Franco broke a nearly 76-year old record to become the oldest player in MLB history to hit a home run, and I was wondering why people in my section didn't know who Jack Quinn was. Moyer won't be setting any records, but the milestone is still cool enough to strive for.
Moyer, who began his career when Tommy John was still an active major league pitcher, hasn't pitched in a big league game since June 2010 after having Tommy John surgery himself nearly two years ago.
I simply want to continue to watch a pitcher who had Davey Lopes and Ron Cey as his starting third basemen in his first and second big league games, respectively.
5) Will the Rockies need to wear name tags during spring training?
General manager Dan O'Dowd was a busy man this offseason, making 10 trades involving at least one major league player since the season ended. As noted yesterday by Andrew T. Fisher at Purple Row, a whopping 15 of the 25 players (60%) on the Rockies' 2011 opening day roster are already gone, including four-fifths of the starting rotation (well, until they get De La Rosa back at least) and eight of 12 pitchers.
In case you were wondering, 11 of the opening-day 25 for the 2011 Dodgers are no longer with the team.
Offseason Moves
| Rockies Trades, Etc. This Winter | ||
|---|---|---|
| Team | Traded | Acquired |
| Phillies | Ty Wigginton if $2 million |
PTBNL or $100,000 |
| Angels | Chris Iannetta c | Tyler Chatwood rhp |
| Dodgers | Jamie Hoffmann of (claimed off waivers from LA) | |
| Twins | Daniel Turpen rhp | Kevin Slowey rhp |
| Padres | Huston Street rhp $500,000 |
Nick Schmidt lhp |
| Cubs | Ian Stewart 3b Casey Weathers rhp |
Tyler Colvin of D.J. LeMahieu |
| Rangers | Greg Reynolds rhp | Chad Tracy 1b |
| Athletics | Seth Smith of | Guillermo Moscoso rhp Josh Outman lhp |
| Indians | Kevin Slowey rhp $1.25 million |
Zach Putnam rhp |
| Red Sox | Clayton Mortensen rhp | Marco Scutaro if |
| Orioles | Jason Hammel rhp Matt Lindstrom rhp |
Jeremy Guthrie rhp |
Scutaro was a salary dump by Boston that Colorado was more than happy to pounce upon, but that was just won of a slew of trades by Colorado during the offseason...so far.
| Rockies Contracts Signed This Winter | ||||
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Pos | Player | Type | Total Contract | 2012 Salary |
| OF | Michael Cuddyer | FA | 3-year, $31.5m | $10,500,000 |
| C | Ramon Hernandez | FA | 2-year, $6.4m | $3,200,000 |
| 3B | Casey Blake | FA | 1-year, $2m | $2,000,000 |
| 1B | Jason Giambi | Opt | $1m mutual option exercised | $1,000,000 |
| RP | Rafael Betancourt | Ext | 1-year, $4.5m + option | $4,000,000 |
| RP | Matt Belisle | Ext | 1-year, $4.35m + option | $3,775,000 |
| SP | Jeremy Guthrie | Arb | 1-year, $8.2m | $8,200,000 |
| OF | Dexter Fowler | Arb | 1-year, $2.35m | $2,350,000 |
Colorado also signed pitcher Jamie Moyer and infielder Brandon Wood, among others, to minor-league contracts.
| Rockies Players Lost | ||
|---|---|---|
| Pos | Player | New Team |
| RP | J.C. Romero | Cardinals |
| 2B | Mark Ellis | Dodgers |
| SP | Aaron Cook | Red Sox* |
| OF | Ryan Spilborghs | Indians* |
| OF | Cole Garner | Yankees* |
| SP | Kevin Millwood | Mariners* |
| 3B | Kevin Kouzmanoff | Royals* |
| *Minor league deal | ||
Here's my guess as to the Rockies' 25-man roster, with a few assumptions mixed in:
| 2012 Rockies Under Contract | |||
|---|---|---|---|
| Pos | Player | 2012 Age* | 2012 Salary |
| C | Ramon Hernandez | 36 | $3,200,000 |
| 1B | Todd Helton | 38 | $4,900,000 |
| 2B | Marco Scutaro | 36 | $6,000,000 |
| 3B | Casey Blake |
38 | $2,000,000 |
| SS | Troy Tulowitzki | 27 | $8,250,000 |
| LF | Carlos Gonzalez | 26 | $5,000,000 |
| CF | Dexter Fowler | 26 | $2,350,000 |
| RF |
Michael Cuddyer |
33 | $10,500,000 |
| 1B | Jason Giambi | 41 | $1,000,000 |
| IF |
Jonathan Herrera |
27 | team control |
| OF | Tyler Colvin | 26 | team control |
| OF | Charlie Blackmon | 25 | team control |
| C/IF | Jordan Pacheco | 26 | team control |
| SP | Jeremy Guthrie | 33 | $8,200,000 |
| SP | Jhoulys Chacin | 24 | team control |
| SP |
Juan Nicasio |
25 | team control |
| SP | Tyler Chatwood | 22 | team control |
| SP | Drew Pomerantz |
23 | team control |
| CL | Rafael Betancourt | 37 | $4,000,000 |
| RHP | Matt Belisle | 32 | $3,775,000 |
| LHP | Rex Brothers | 24 | team control |
| LHP | Matt Reynolds | 27 | team control |
| LHP | Josh Outman |
27 | team control |
| RHP | Esmil Rogers | 26 | team control |
| RHP | Zach Putnam | 24 | team control |
| DL | Jorge De La Rosa | 31 | $10,000,000 |
| Totals (13 players) |
$69,175,000 | ||
| *Age as of June 30, 2012 |
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It's hard to pin down the Colorado bench, rotation, and bullpen, as there are several candidates for spots. Chris Nelson, Eric Young, Jr., and D.J. LeMahieu are all vying for bench spots, and Guillermo Moscoso, Alex White, Josh Outman, and Christian Friedrich all have shots at rotation, if not bullpen spots.
In addition, the Rockies are paying $2 million to Philadelphia to cover half of Ty Wigginton's salary, $1.25 million to Cleveland as part of the (second) Kevin Slowey trade, and $500,000 to San Diego to cover part of Huston Street's salary.
Thanks to Baseball-Reference.com and Cot's Baseball Contracts. Jason Giambi photo courtesy of Getty Images.
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so is this the year
The Rockies DON’T get the NL West called in their favor early?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 8, 2012 6:27 AM PST via iPhone app reply actions
Agree. I thought they’d be great last year and was wrong. Now they’re a bit off my radar (I’d probably pick them 3rd). Uh-oh.
Sneaky fuckin Rockies
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by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 8, 2012 9:11 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Ever since 2007,
the Rockies are thought to have fairy dust sprinkled over their heads.
@TElciram
by Taylor Maricle on Feb 8, 2012 3:18 PM PST up reply actions
I wrote a post last year pleading with people to quit it
from 2007-11, Colorado is barely a good 2nd half or Sept team
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 8, 2012 3:20 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
It was especially annoying going into 2010
With the Dodgers fresh off the best record in the league, and Manny & crew coming back, that everyone still thought the Rockies would win.
I get that we fell apart, but that wasn’t something that was clear-cut, it required Manny getting injured, Kemp and Loney playing terribly, Broxton imploding, etc, etc.
@TElciram
by Taylor Maricle on Feb 8, 2012 3:41 PM PST up reply actions
Rockies will be real good if their young pitchers live up to potential
Pomeranz is going to be a beast.
That has to be
the ugliest rotation in the NL West, no? Interesting that they are going with so many fly ball low BABIP pitchers in Coors. Will that work?
Im wondering if they are just hoping this group can keep them competitive until the young guns come up later in the season
by Lex in Brooklyn on Feb 8, 2012 9:05 AM PST up reply actions
I hope the beard does well in Denver.
Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn.
by Skunkburner on Feb 8, 2012 7:06 AM PST via mobile reply actions
I wish him well in health and much happiness
and not a good year with the bat. What? He’s gone to a division rival, my good feelings extend only so far. ;)
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Aw. I was just hoping for beard rot. That can be very painful.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
I thought Brian WIlson already had those things?
11 today, 10 tomorrow is how many days remain until Pitchers and Catchers report for Spring Training. Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES. Can't wait until fantasy starts also. This will be the 4th year for my team. The Blake St. Bombers.
and why would you wish injury upon one of our players?
That’s like me wishing injury upon Kemp or Kershaw. I don’t like doing those things. Its a freaking game.
11 today, 10 tomorrow is how many days remain until Pitchers and Catchers report for Spring Training. Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES. Can't wait until fantasy starts also. This will be the 4th year for my team. The Blake St. Bombers.
If your name was Roman4ever, you’d wish the loser fed to the lions
by Hollywood Joe on Feb 8, 2012 2:53 PM PST up reply actions
Wishing injury on 50 year old Casey Blake is not the same as wishing injury on Matt Kemp.
by Michael White on Feb 8, 2012 2:56 PM PST up reply actions
Its still wishing injury on a player.
No matter who it is.
11 today, 10 tomorrow is how many days remain until Pitchers and Catchers report for Spring Training. Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES. Can't wait until fantasy starts also. This will be the 4th year for my team. The Blake St. Bombers.
It’s not like you wishing injury on Kemp or Kershaw, as your comment suggests.
Plus, he’s obviously joking.
by Michael White on Feb 8, 2012 2:59 PM PST up reply actions
Was I?
Which would be better?
1. Casey Blake goes to Colorado and kicks ass
2. Casey Blake plays old and is waived
3. Casey Blake is injured, does not help the Rockies, but also does not suck
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
Hmm… good point.
1) would be terrible.
2) Sucks for Casey
3) Cracked rib is not that big of a deal, so I could see why you’d go here.
I’d prefer he sucked and is waived well after he should have been (like Garrett Anderson.) Maximum damage inflicted upon the Rockies.
by Michael White on Feb 8, 2012 3:08 PM PST up reply actions
“2 and 2 to Garret Anderson.. Heres the pitch… Hard hit ground ball to first… A perfectly good at bat wasted!
by Since84 on Feb 9, 2012 2:25 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Earns all his incentive bonuses!
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not sure about the meercat but the general sense i get here is that we wish The Beard well
I just hope he doesn’t have a monster year after being mostly injured and useless the last year+.
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The obvious parallel would be wishing on a Dodger who was a Rockie last year. We have some ex-Rockies, but none who just were, do we? Who was the last player to play for Colorado one year and LA the next? Eric Young, Sr.?
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yes, him, tho he was barely a Rockie
add uribe and colletti seems to love our discarded middle infielders. You guys will LOVE Jonny Herrera
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 8, 2012 3:22 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
Aaron Miles, Jamey Carroll were not too long ago
jamey wright is enough of A Rockie to count too
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 8, 2012 3:21 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
So the entire NL West is wishing ill will upon Matt Herges?
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he was the only player in the Rockies org to appear in the Mitchell Report when it was released
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"Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est"
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 8, 2012 4:57 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
I’m not surprised a Rockie fan would compare Casey Blake to Matt Kemp. We have fun here, don’t come here and expect us to be serious. Go back to your world where everything is white.
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my old friends live in a suburb,
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.322524177790712.71615.100000993962847&type=1
some awesome photo’s of the snow that recently hit.
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Sorry Xei
Finally saw Synecdoche, New York last night (it’s been #1 on my wish list but hadn’t come to TV yet). Really good. Trippy in the best sense of the word. PSH at top of game.
It wouldn’t be a bad idea.
I still believe a lefty can after a bit master third base
by DodgerofTrolleys on Feb 8, 2012 9:11 AM PST up reply actions
Happens all the time
pre-employment
It's gettin' so a businessman can't expect no return from a fixed fight. Now, if you can't trust a fix, what can you trust?
Who does Law like way more than anyone else?
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by regfairfield on Feb 8, 2012 10:03 AM PST up reply actions
Doesn’t get into specifics, but pitching, pitching, pitching
by Eric Stephen on Feb 8, 2012 10:06 AM PST up reply actions
Gotcha. Knowing Law that probably means Eo, Gould and Tolleson.
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by regfairfield on Feb 8, 2012 10:22 AM PST up reply actions
Jamie Moyer began his Major League playing career before several current MANAGERS did. Off the top of my head, Robin Ventura, Mike Matheny, Eric Wedge, Joe Girardi…
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
he should learn a knuckleball
So he can pitch for ETERNITY!!
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by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 8, 2012 9:14 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Started his ML career a year after Don Wakamatsu was DRAFTED
by Lex in Brooklyn on Feb 8, 2012 9:17 AM PST up reply actions
Thought about Wak, but he’s not a MLB manager anymore.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Started his career before Ventura and Matheny were drafted.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
He owes Jesus a quarter
Threw his first pitch when the dead sea was only sick
by Lex in Brooklyn on Feb 8, 2012 9:30 AM PST up reply actions
He was drafted two rounds ahead of renowned ratbastard Jody Reed.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
started his carreer two years before DeLino DeSheilds was drafted
by Lex in Brooklyn on Feb 8, 2012 9:43 AM PST up reply actions
Eric, minor nitpick but the Rockies are way more likely to use Guilermo Moscoso, an effective pitcher in the bigs last year in their rotation than Drew Pomeranz who has thrown 28 innings above high A.
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it is really difficult to gauge who will be in the rotation
Guthrie and Chacin obviously, no reason not to suspect Nicasio. After that, Pomeranz has actually gotten the most noise towards that spot this offseason, so I disagree with you. He’s an elite prospect that carved the hell out of the minors and has big league stuff. the only reason they’d keep him in the minors is to keep his workload down some. I’d probably say Outman is more likely for the 5th spot than Moscoso, personally. It’s all guesswork though. Scottsdale will be a death match.
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"Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est"
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 8, 2012 10:32 AM PST via Android app up reply actions
those two as well
between the five of Pomeranz, Outman, White, Moscoso, Rogers and Chatwood, there should be two with rotation spots, one in the pen (maybe 2) and the others in the minors to start. I actually think pomeranz has the best shot of those five to be in the rotation, chatwood the least. I think I listed those in order of my likelihood, but its very up in the air. also, Rogers is out of options, so he’s on or out. I think the rest have options
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 8, 2012 10:43 AM PST via Android app up reply actions
I guess I don’t see the point in rushing Pomerantz right now when you have Moscoso and Outman. Unless the Rockies believe he can immediately be a front of the rotation starter it wouldn’t hurt to have him get more than 30 innings of decent competition in. He’ll still be there in May.
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by regfairfield on Feb 8, 2012 10:40 AM PST up reply actions
Need to consider service time here also. Even if Pomeranz is a beast is a few starts in April worth an entire year of control?
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by regfairfield on Feb 8, 2012 10:45 AM PST up reply actions
fair point
I’d prefer they go that route, see what they have in the A’s before de la Rosa returns as well. But I don’t think Pomeranz would be rushed to start in the rotation. I think he is clearly a top 5 starter in the organization today.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 8, 2012 10:45 AM PST via Android app up reply actions
I don’t see any way the Rockies start Pomeranz in the rotation to start the season.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
keep in mind I'm not talking blind here
he hasn’t been given a job, but from conference calls, to articles to beat reporters opinions, he is a favorite. granted, they like to drum up support for top prospects this way. On numerous occasions, they’ve claimed Arenado will get a shot to compete for the Opening Day 3B gig. Even if he has a 1.400 ST he won’t get it. But I buy into the noise around Pomeranz more.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 8, 2012 10:54 AM PST via Android app up reply actions
Okay, I’d love to see it happen since he will get killed and you will have wasted a year of control.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Maybe none, but how many pitchers have jumped to Coors after 24 IP in AA? There is no bigger leap.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Nicasio had 66 innings in AA and he did fine
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
That would seem to be the difference between 10 starts which is about the time frame Reg and I have been saying. If you guys don’t want to percolate, fine with me, I’m sure learning how to pitch in Coors is a great place to figure things out. Even Kershaw put in 60 IP in AA.
I assumed the Rockies picked up a bunch flim flam starters so he would not have to start in the rotation, but it is your team so I’m sure you no better.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Sorry it was 56 innings and while I do think Pom would be fine
in the Rotation, I don’t see a reason to burn 2018 for 5-10 starts in 2012. I also see Chatwood being better than he showed toward the end of last year.
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
I don’t have much hope for Chatwood, he was rushed but his peripherals were as bad as any in baseball. Hopefully for him his GB rate will save him.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
His peripherals at 21 were no worse than Smoltz, Glavine
or Maddux or Schilling or most every pitcher not named Pedro, Felix, Gooden saying a 20-21 yo’s performance is enough to get an accurate bead on their ceiling is pretty silly
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
Okay, I’m sure the Angels traded him for an expensive catcher you did not want because they think he’s going to be something. I watched him pitch, it was unimpressive. Yes, he’s young but stuff is stuff and he didn’t have much stuff. He was literally one of the luckiest pitchers in baseball and it was nice the Angels recognized that and sent him on his way to you.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Your opinion is shared by a healthy portion if not majority
of Purple Row, and while Iannetta may not have been league minimum the fact that the guy who they got to replace him was about as expensive despite being 8 years older.
Also they didn’t need to move Iannetta, and the Angels weren’t the only ones in need of a catcher so Chatwood was obviously someone the Rockies pursued as someone they valued.
Chatwood may bomb(the same can be said of almost any 22yo) but 2011’s performance is hardly a fair gauge.
"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides
All true, way to early to make any judgments but we do anyway
Many of us here were perplexed by how much it seemed Rockie Management did not like Iannetta. Still Hernandez should be a solid one year stop gap until the kid is ready. Again I’m hoping he’s Ben Petrick and not as good as he appears to be.
Interesting, just for fun I checked Rockie catchers since 1995. You know you don’t have one catcher with a career OPS+ higher then 99 since then.
Player OPS+ G From To Age PA BA OBP SLG OPS
Chris Iannetta 99 458 2006 2011 23-28 1733 .235 .357 .430 .788
Jeff Reed 99 365 1996 1999 33-36 1121 .286 .373 .456 .829
Todd Greene 95 113 2004 2005 33-34 343 .271 .315 .486 .801
Miguel Olivo 92 112 2010 2010 31-31 427 .269 .315 .449 .765
Ben Petrick 91 197 1999 2003 22-26 635 .264 .349 .464 .814
Charles Johnson 89 217 2003 2004 31-32 776 .233 .334 .443 .777
Brent Mayne 84 166 2000 2001 32-33 574 .311 .382 .404 .786
Yorvit Torrealba 77 312 2006 2009 27-30 1187 .258 .316 .394 .710
JD Closser 71 160 2004 2006 24-26 508 .239 .320 .367 .687
Gary Bennett 66 109 2001 2002 29-30 375 .266 .315 .358 .673
Joe Girardi 58 125 1995 1995 30-30 506 .262 .308 .359 .667
Danny Ardoin 57 115 2005 2006 30-31 368 .216 .300 .326 .626
Kirt Manwaring 56 262 1997 1999 31-33 865 .247 .325 .320 .645
Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Play Index Tool Used
Generated 2/8/2012.
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He never struck out anyone in the minors either after LoA ball
And although his walks aren’t super high (technical term, it’s why I’ll be on tv talking about this some day), they aren’t low enough to get over striking out ~5 per 9 innings.
He’s really gotta milk the fact he hasn’t allowed a ton of HR before 2011, and in coors it won’t happen.
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the Rockies have never really had a pitcher who so completely dominated through the minors
I attended his MLB debut, at Coors last year. Due to down time and an appendectomy, he didn’t have the greatest stuff, but he was in complete control and was never in danger of allowing a run. I think your assumption that he would get lit up is misguided, even if your conclusion that a handful of AA starts would be best isn’t really wrong at all.
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 8, 2012 11:25 AM PST via Android app up reply actions
Seems fair, he is your prospect, of course you want him to succeed, he’s on my competitors team so of course I want him to fail. I’m hoping he’s the next Andrew Miller or Kazmir.
Curious have you done the history on highly ranked left handed pitchers getting traded before they hit the majors and how they have done for their new teams compared to the expectations in the last decade or so?
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I haven't, but how important is his handedness to such a prediction?
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 8, 2012 11:47 AM PST via Android app up reply actions
Left handed prospects break hearts more then bats? Then again I’m still jaded by Greg Miller so pay me no mind.
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I figure that Kershaw would have washed past sins away
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You figured wrong but he did alter the equation. Still have trust and commitment issues.
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Maybe Ned (Flanders, not Colletti)'s Leftorium has an in-store therapist
you can use.
http://simpsons.wikia.com/wiki/Leftorium
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Curious have you done the history on highly ranked left handed pitchers getting traded before they hit the majors and how they have done for their new teams compared to the expectations in the last decade or so?
This is the most Phil question ever.
by Eric Stephen on Feb 8, 2012 11:50 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Because the last decade does not include guys like Randy Johnson?
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Plus, he had his appendix taken out before he made his debut in Denver.
11 today, 10 tomorrow is how many days remain until Pitchers and Catchers report for Spring Training. Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES. Can't wait until fantasy starts also. This will be the 4th year for my team. The Blake St. Bombers.
Who has the better season
Beard or Uribe?
by Lex in Brooklyn on Feb 8, 2012 10:01 AM PST reply actions
Giambi caption
I had to go back and check that Ethier’s home run total was correct. 11 homers last year, eh? That ain’t gettin’ it done, son.
wish it would why? Im not sure what I think. I like Rondo, I like the intense player he is, his quickness, his defense. But he cant shoot for shit, and thats a problem when trying to open up the inside. But I agree, hard to imagine it actually happening.
Rondo is a piss-poor shooter, but just about everything else in his game is top notch. Great facilitator, good passer, great defense.
The Lakers wouldn’t have to shudder every time they faced a pick and roll.
by Eric Stephen on Feb 8, 2012 10:14 AM PST up reply actions
So you would do it? Rumor is we’d also get Bass, so that would make it even better. I heard there was an article on ESPN breaking down Rondo’s assists, and say his assist rate drops way down when Allen or Pierce isnt on the court. My thinking is wouldnt that be the same for any team, assists go down when star players arent on the court?
Who do the Celtics turn to for PG?
I’d like this for the Lakers if they had signed Kenyon Martin for PF, then traded Gasol for Rondo. Trading Gasol for Rondo would leave such a void at PF now sure about the net gain.
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The PF void would hurt. I’d see if I could get a guy like Larry Sanders on the cheap. Now that we know Bynum can score, the Lakers would just need to add depth and athleticism to the front court.
by Lex in Brooklyn on Feb 8, 2012 10:16 AM PST up reply actions
And again, trading Odom for nothing ends up costing the Lakers….
by Michael White on Feb 8, 2012 10:17 AM PST up reply actions
I’m not mad about the Odom trade. The draft pick will prove very useful as will the dough
by Lex in Brooklyn on Feb 8, 2012 10:19 AM PST up reply actions
What dough? Lakers were over cap before and after trade. It’s not like dumping him gave them any more ability to sign an impact player.
by Michael White on Feb 8, 2012 10:21 AM PST up reply actions
Cool. Let’s see how valuable that is by the time it expires…
by Michael White on Feb 8, 2012 10:23 AM PST up reply actions
The Lakers used the shit out of their Vujacic trade exception. Oh wait…
by Eric Stephen on Feb 8, 2012 10:25 AM PST up reply actions
have to admit I know little about the value of these “trade exceptions”.
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The Cavs used their Lebron James trade exception on Baron Davis…
and a draft pick which happened to pay off.
by Michael White on Feb 8, 2012 10:27 AM PST up reply actions
I was told Kylie was not going to be a big deal. I was lied to. Not looking forward to seeing him tonight.
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Oh, we definitely got this one tonight.
by Michael White on Feb 8, 2012 10:29 AM PST up reply actions
It allows a team over the cap to take on more salary in a trade.
by Eric Stephen on Feb 8, 2012 10:27 AM PST up reply actions
Ill be pissed if they let a 8.9 mil exception just expire, thats gotta get you someone, not a star, but someone. Rumor is Lakers could have Session right now for a 1st round pick. They’d need that TPE to add him, he makes a little over 4 mil.
So if the trade ends up being Odom for Sessions, you going to declare victory?
by Michael White on Feb 8, 2012 10:30 AM PST up reply actions
Sessions is a nice player. The Lakers need depth bad though, so I would be surprised if they move either pick. Id bet that Gasol is more likely to be moved.
by Lex in Brooklyn on Feb 8, 2012 10:45 AM PST up reply actions
yeah its looking like a good chance Gasol is moved. Yeah Lakers do need depth, I was thinking trade Gasol for Scola and Martin, then trade for Sessions, boom, suddenly depth. Then if you can trade Bynum for Howard, cool… just a random thought haha
Jim Buss loves Bynum and Howard will be teaming with Deron in either New Jersey or Dallas (unless Dan Gilbert goes Catatonic and Stern blocks it) . Pau for Scola and Dragic is preferable to me.
by Lex in Brooklyn on Feb 8, 2012 10:52 AM PST up reply actions
Id do Gasol for Scola and Dragic.
I think Deron and Howard will team up either in Dallas or in New Jersey, unless Dan Gilbert goes catatonic at the thought and Stern blocks it
by Lex in Brooklyn on Feb 8, 2012 10:54 AM PST up reply actions
well, Rockets were giving up Scola, Martin, Dragic and a 1st round pick for Gasol, so maybe we can still get all that lol…. but Rockets were also planning to sign Nene, so they may not be into that anymore.
right. their plan was to team him up with Nene or Marc Gasol, so I doubt they’d offer as much at this point
by Lex in Brooklyn on Feb 8, 2012 11:01 AM PST up reply actions
It was $5.5 million. Nothing to sneeze at.
by Eric Stephen on Feb 8, 2012 10:28 AM PST up reply actions
Yes, still don’t understand why they simply didn’t institute a five day cooling down period. Odom had to have said some shit that destroyed the bridge.
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He just must have made it absolutely clear he no longer wanted to be a Laker
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by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 8, 2012 10:23 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
I can’t believe you tried to trade me, now I demand you trade me!
by Michael White on Feb 8, 2012 10:24 AM PST up reply actions
Yes hes a shit shooter, but not many players at his positions who can defend, rebound, and pass as well as him. He would be a good fit with Bynum and Kobe. I like Pau, but he’s also starting his decline…Again, wont happen, but i’d do it.
by Lex in Brooklyn on Feb 8, 2012 10:14 AM PST up reply actions
Rondo would be an upgrade times a million over Fisher
I’d welcome that trade with open arms.
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Despite entreaties not to, I stopped believing in these rumors a long time ago.
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sounds like
A pornographic superhero
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by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 8, 2012 10:36 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
38 year old Nash would be an upgrade
I love Fishyrim and appreciate everything he’s done for the franchise, but he’s not a starter anymore
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by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 8, 2012 10:28 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
People really need to preface comments like this with “the rumor of…”
by Eric Stephen on Feb 8, 2012 10:03 AM PST up reply actions
I had no idea that Casey Blake signed with the Rockies.
I wonder what effect altitude has on beard growth.
Condit reportedly agrees to rematch with Diaz….
by Michael White on Feb 8, 2012 10:07 AM PST up reply actions
Truly Nick Diaz will learn from his mistakes and won’t just flip off Condit and yell 209.
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by regfairfield on Feb 8, 2012 10:08 AM PST up reply actions
That’d better be on a free card.
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by regfairfield on Feb 8, 2012 10:08 AM PST up reply actions
Watching the fight, I didn’t think it was close at all. I though Condit clearly won and was surprised when I saw people calling it a “controversial” decision.
by Michael White on Feb 8, 2012 10:11 AM PST up reply actions
yup
Condit was in control for practically the whole fight
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by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 8, 2012 10:12 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
The non-terrible argument is Diaz won 1, 2 and 5 but that still involves scoring Nick moving forward ineffectively as more valuable than Condit landing leg kicks.
On a whole though, Condit clearly won the fight, he threw more strikes, landed more, and was able to execute a game plan. I really don’t want to see it again.
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by regfairfield on Feb 8, 2012 10:15 AM PST up reply actions
I had Condit winning 1-4 (haven’t re-watched it though) and losing 5 based on the takedown and sub attempt.
Funny thing, I didn’t think the fight was all that close, but FightMetric had it very close. OTOH, I had Bisping vs. Sonnen as very close (with Sonnen narrowly winning) but FightMetric had a pretty decisive win for Sonnen.
by Michael White on Feb 8, 2012 10:26 AM PST up reply actions
I had Diaz winning 2 and the rest for Condit. I think you can argue for anything but 50-45 either guy.
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by regfairfield on Feb 8, 2012 10:27 AM PST up reply actions
I think the rematch, which the UFC never does, just shows how much the UFC wants Diaz vs. St. Pierre.
Yep that’s a hell of a lot more buys even though Diaz/Condit revealed yet another way GSP could totally dominate Diaz for five rounds.
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by regfairfield on Feb 8, 2012 11:07 AM PST up reply actions
Is it really? GSP is the draw. Is Nick Diaz even that popular or well-known? It’s not like he can trash talk his way to more PPV buys like Chael, Nick can barely speak.
by Michael White on Feb 8, 2012 11:09 AM PST up reply actions
I don’t think Condit stands any chance of beating GSP anyway, so it’s not like UFC would have to wait long for GSP/Diaz. GSP beats Condit in November, Diaz beats Kos or Hendricks or whoever to re-establish himself as #1 contender, and then you have GSP vs. Diaz.
by Michael White on Feb 8, 2012 11:13 AM PST up reply actions
The problem is that Diaz would probably lose terribly to any wrestler and Condit is the only relevant non-wrestler at welterweight.
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by regfairfield on Feb 8, 2012 11:14 AM PST up reply actions
GSP actually seems to dislike Diaz which is a way better build up than the usual “BJ Penn/Thiago Alves/Dan Hardy/Josh Koscheck/Jake Shields is my toughest opponent yet and I respect him very much”
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by regfairfield on Feb 8, 2012 11:12 AM PST up reply actions
Hmmm…an “issue” in the Diaz camp? I wonder what that could be (failed another drug test)
by Michael White on Feb 8, 2012 11:15 AM PST up reply actions
I like Cerrone even if he was the exact opposite of Condit. He completely fell for the (Nate) Diaz trash talk, stood in front of him and got his ass whooped.
by Michael White on Feb 8, 2012 11:29 AM PST up reply actions
Elvis Andrus re-ups
3y/$14-15m. Buys out three arb years.
Rangers are the best organization in baseball right now.
I forgot Davey Lopes was on the 1986 Cubs. I was going to make a remark about Moyer playing with Ron Cey in his major league debut, but was surprised when I saw Lopes as the starting 3B in that game.
Moyer’s first five starts involved all four of The Infield™:
Game 1: Lopes at 3B for Cubs
Game 2: Cey at 3B for Cubs
Game 3: vs. Montreal :(
Game 4: vs Dodgers, Bill Russell started…in right field.
Game 5: vs. Padres, Steve Garvey started at 1B
by Eric Stephen on Feb 8, 2012 10:04 AM PST reply actions 2 recs
New Fan Post regarding Dodger Blogger Softball Tournament
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this saturday!
Im going to freaking hate waking up for this bitch on Saturday
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Houston was awarded the 2013 NBA All-Star Game. A mere seven years after last hosting it (same as Staples, which hosted in 2004 and 2011).
Is their a logical reason why so many other sites are being ignored?
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Basketball reasons
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by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 8, 2012 10:18 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions 2 recs
Maybe with the 20+ NBA teams having lost money (per the league’s claims during the lockout) they didn’t want to put a game at a stadium with a bunch of non-sellouts. But I’m just guessing there.
Portland has never hosted an All-Star Game. That seems like a bunch of bullshit.
by Eric Stephen on Feb 8, 2012 10:19 AM PST up reply actions
Right, no way Portland does not sell that sucker out. It is pricey.
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I wonder if the NBA All-Star game is a bit like the NFL in choosing the site. It’s really their only change to do a showcase game, what with a 7 game final and all. Perhaps that explains why warmer cities seem to land the game more often?
by Josie Becker on Feb 8, 2012 10:23 AM PST up reply actions
Portland All Star Game weekend
Sponsored by Pabst and the Wanderlust Circus
by Lex in Brooklyn on Feb 8, 2012 10:46 AM PST up reply actions
This year is the first All-Star game in Orlando since the greatest ASG of all-time, the Magic Johnson comeback game in 1992.
I did not realize this until now. I’m going to write the shit out of that for SBN LA.
by Eric Stephen on Feb 8, 2012 10:22 AM PST up reply actions
Tears were pouring down my cheeks with each three point shot he made. I so hated Karl Malone at that moment.
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Me too (on both)
I still have a VHS copy of that game.
by Eric Stephen on Feb 8, 2012 10:23 AM PST up reply actions
Games the NBA has ended early
Wilt’s 100-point game
1992 All-Star Game
by Eric Stephen on Feb 8, 2012 10:31 AM PST up reply actions
If his knees didn’t give out in 2004 I might feel differently, but yeah.
by Eric Stephen on Feb 8, 2012 10:35 AM PST up reply actions
Malone and dicklick Payton becoming Lakers pretty much started my Laker decline phase. It was the first time I went from rooting for them to win to rooting for them to lose. You want a Title fucking earn it yourself.
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honest question
18 year vets and 13 year vets sign on to championship contenders all the time. It’s it specifically because they were such decorated vets that made them joining the Lakers so despicable? Would you have been that upset about Detlef Schrempf joining the Lakers?
by Josie Becker on Feb 8, 2012 10:51 AM PST up reply actions
If Detlef Schrempf took as much of a paycut as Malone did he’d owe the Lakers several million dollars.
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by regfairfield on Feb 8, 2012 10:55 AM PST up reply actions
It is specific to Gary Payton and Karl Malone, nothing else.
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so it’s specifically a leader of conference rivals joining team they unsuccessfully tried to defeat thing. Hard to think of a modern parallel.
Only thing I could think of to compare would have been Barry Bonds, St. Louis Cardinal
by Josie Becker on Feb 8, 2012 11:01 AM PST up reply actions
No, it is because I disliked Gary Payton and Karl Malone to a very high degree.
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are there any current NBA players you dislike to that degree?
by Josie Becker on Feb 8, 2012 11:04 AM PST up reply actions
I was younger then, my hate level has dissipated 62.3%. I don’t hate anyone anymore.
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That was a weird season
with Kobe in Colorado trial travels, the Shaq/Kobe/Phil thing at high angst, and then adding Malone and Payton.
Didn’t watch a lot of the playoffs that year as I was really busy at work. Can’t say I was that vested in them winning or losing. I mean, yeah, it would have been good that they won but it was just a strange time.
Ironically, that year I started getting back to following the Dodgers on a much closer basis.
Did you like Bob McAdoo with the Lakers?
by Eric Stephen on Feb 8, 2012 10:55 AM PST up reply actions
I saw Koko Archibong play in high school
by Lex in Brooklyn on Feb 8, 2012 10:56 AM PST up reply actions
I always loved Bob McAdoo, so Yes I loved him with the Lakers.
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My favorite 5 of the Showtime years was probably
Magic, Nixon, Cooper, Wilkes and McAdoo. That fivesome was fun to watch back in 1982.
When that trade was made, I said to someone, “why are we getting that selfish loser? Terrible move.” Turns out Bill Sharman (was he the GM then?) knows shitloads more about basketball than 21-year old Dave.
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Bill Sharman, one of the forgotten greats in NBA history.
by Eric Stephen on Feb 8, 2012 12:47 PM PST up reply actions
Didn’t get many hugs
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by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 8, 2012 12:52 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
rec'd
That was a tough fit, but you squeezed that one in there.
by Eric Stephen on Feb 8, 2012 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
Yes and the dude who fell off his bike and hit his head
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Poor Jack McKinney.
A mere 14 games in the big boy chair in LA.
by Eric Stephen on Feb 8, 2012 12:58 PM PST up reply actions
Not as forgotten as Alex Hannum?
I learn something every day:
A street in Culver City is named for his father.
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McAdoo and Maravich two of the more entertaining players of my era. Or any era.
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I would have killed to see young Maravich play live.
Or to be at the exhibition game (was it more than one?) when Maravich and Dr. J were teammates before the ABA threatened to sue and Erving’s NBA deal was terminated
by Eric Stephen on Feb 8, 2012 12:59 PM PST up reply actions
It was two games!
On September 23, 1972, Erving had 28 points and 18 rebounds in 42 minutes for Atlanta in a 112-99 win over the Kentucky Colonels in Frankfort, Ky. A week later in Raleigh, N.C., he scored 32 points—shooting 14 of 15 from the field—in a 120-106 win over the Carolina Cougars, who were paced by Joe Caldwell’s 24 points. Erving says, “I remember those exhibition games. I would just grab a rebound, throw it out to Pete and get on the wing. Pete would always find you. He got his points, but he loved to pass the ball. He could hit you in full stride in a place where you could do something with the ball. That was a measure of his greatness.”
The NBA fined Atlanta $25,000 per game for Erving’s two Hawks appearances because Milwaukee owned his NBA rights—in a sense, the Hawks had “stolen” Erving from teams in both the ABA and NBA. A three-judge panel ruled that until the case was settled, Erving was contractually bound to the Squires. Erving returned to Virginia and led the ABA in scoring in 1972-73 (31.9 ppg). The following year, the cash-strapped Squires sold him to the New York Nets, leaving Hawks (and Squires) fans to wonder what might have been.
I just love this
Second, Maravich played before the advent of the three-point line. His long-distance shooting skill thus produced far fewer points than would have been the case in a later era. Years later, former LSU head basketball coach Dale Brown charted every college game Maravich played, taking into consideration all shots he took. Brown calculated that at the NCAA rule of a three-point line at 19-foot (5.8 m), 9-inches from the rim, Maravich would have averaged thirteen 3-point scores per game, lifting the player’s career average to 57 points per game.8
Dude average over 40 points a game anyway every year in college.
I remember him more from his college days then Pro days, probably because I was back East then.
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His death is still amazing:
On January 5, 1988, Pete Maravich collapsed and died at age 40 of heart failure19 while playing in a pickup basketball game in the gym at a church in Pasadena, California, with a group that included James Dobson of Focus on the Family fame. Maravich had flown out from his home in Louisiana to tape a segment for Dobson’s radio show that aired later that day. Dobson has said that Maravich’s last words, less than a minute before he died, were “I feel great.” An autopsy revealed the cause of death to be a rare congenital defect; he had been born with a missing left coronary artery, a vessel which supplies blood to the muscle fibers of the heart. His right coronary artery was grossly enlarged and had been compensating for the defect.20
was always shocked he could play basketball at such a high level given that info.
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I think he had more success and fame in college than in the pros.
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Pistol Pete and his floppy socks. Dude was solid, in the Linc sense.
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Another uniform note
those shoes aren’t Adidas, those are Pro Keds. Adidas sues later, and Pro Keds have had two stripes ever since
And the college photo
Chuck Taylors!
Good god those Hawks unis are hideous.
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Strangely enough, I have never worn Chucks.
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Josie has ridden a Chuck or two in her time AMIRITE?
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What’d you wear as a…god damn it meercat….what did you wear as a Kid, Dave? Pro Keds? Adidas Superstar? Nike wasn’t really a thing yet.
Phil seems like
Thom McCanns
or Buster Browns
by Hollywood Joe on Feb 8, 2012 1:56 PM PST up reply actions
He had to whittle his own clogs.
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The Youngs were originally Dutch, ’tis true.
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We spent zero money on shoes. I probably wore my brothers hand me down shoes. I may have dreamed of getting those flying shoes in the commercials but it was just a dream.
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I am amused how people on this blog are so cavalier about their naivete.
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I so love it when you are wrong
Dictionary definitions in order
1. a horseman, especially a mounted soldier; knight.
2. one having the spirit or bearing of a knight; a courtly gentleman; gallant.
3. a man escorting a woman or acting as her partner in dancing.
4. ( initial capital letter ) an adherent of Charles I of England in his contest with Parliament.
it appears that my photo is definitions 1 and 2, while yours is 4
by Hollywood Joe on Feb 8, 2012 2:53 PM PST up reply actions
What dictionary are you using?
1 ( Cavalier) historical a supporter of King Charles I in the English Civil War.
• archaic or poetic/literary a courtly gentleman, esp. one acting as a lady’s escort.
• archaic a horseman, esp. a cavalryman.
2 (also Cavalier King Charles) a small spaniel of a breed with a moderately long, noncurly, silky coat.
adjective
showing a lack of proper concern; offhand : Anne was irritated by his cavalier attitude.
DERIVATIVES
cavalierly adverb
ORIGIN mid 16th cent.: from French, from Italian cavaliere, based on Latin caballus ‘horse’ : Compare with caballero and chevalier .
What dictionary are you using?
That mixes noun and adjective definitions under a 2 entry?
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You forgot the penis one
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Per Clipper Nation:)
cavalier
.
an uncircumcised penis or someone with an uncircumcised penis.
.
a cavalier is someone with whom one can snoodle.
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At my high school we had
two boys service clubs. The Knights and the Cavaliers. Now I finally know what distinguished one from the other.
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It means “no championships.”
In this case, though, it means being proud in a particularly showy way.
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My first sports shoes were Adidas Gym, which was their bottom end shoe, which was around 7th grade. Nikes started showing up in my high school years. I also had Puma Clydes the first time they came around.
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I remember have the gold suede adidas that were the forerunner to the adidas campus that you can get now.
I had some outrageously colored sports shoes in my HS and college years.
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I have a pair of Jack Purcels....
Cooler looking thab Chuck Taylors.
Baseball is a game, and games are supposed to be fun.
We didn't spend much on shoes either
but I recall having a pair of Vans in elementary school, Reebok in middle school, & Pro Kennex in high school. It wasn’t until college that i had the nerve to wear my favorites: Fila.
Vans
were what my cheap mother would buy for us. I hate them to this day
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who knew Marty had mommy issues.
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I really had to smooth talk my way into the adidas. Because my father, the CPA – whoda thunk it – was such a skinflint.
I too had Vans back when they were cheap.
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I once had a pair of these
Adidas Sao Paulo:
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Can't find a picture
nor remember the model name, but I also had adidas similar to those, but with green uppers and fluorescent green/yellow (like a tennis ball) stripes.
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Also a pair very similar to these
Onitsuka Tigers:
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His radio show with Vic the Brick
made the Magic Hour look like Rod Serling
by Lex in Brooklyn on Feb 8, 2012 10:47 AM PST up reply actions
That was when I started calling him Ho Malone.
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question
Is the Malone/Stockton era Utah Jazz the best NBA team never to win a championship? I guess you could put the Kemp/Payton Sonics in there too (Jordan was good).
Those Jazz teams would be tough to top in this category IMO.
I thought the late 1980s Hawks teams were awesome but not for long enough to matter for something like this. The early-mid 1980s Bucks might fall into this brief window category too.
The “7 seconds or less” Suns teams were damn good if unconventional.
by Eric Stephen on Feb 8, 2012 12:00 PM PST up reply actions
Clyde Drexler’s Blazers might fit here too
by Josie Becker on Feb 8, 2012 12:01 PM PST up reply actions
Good call. I knew I was forgetting someone.
by Eric Stephen on Feb 8, 2012 12:03 PM PST up reply actions
Right, two finals, and the Lakers knocked them out of the Western Finals or it would have been three years in a row 90 – 92
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I had a little league game during game 6 of the WCF; waiting for the results of that game was painful, but when I finally saw the highlight of Magic chucking the ball down court to run out the clock that was so great.
Then the Lakers seized home court advantage against the Bulls by Perkins-ing them in Chicago in Game 1, and the rest was history!
by Eric Stephen on Feb 8, 2012 12:06 PM PST up reply actions
Probably, but they only got to the finals twice. The Nets were back to back failures in early 2000’s. The early 90 Portland team might have a say .
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Reggie Miller’s Pacers? Patrick Ewings Knicks?
by Josie Becker on Feb 8, 2012 12:03 PM PST up reply actions
these all go in the Michael Jordan was good at basketball category
by Josie Becker on Feb 8, 2012 12:03 PM PST up reply actions
Serious question: is there a team that got to more than two NBA Finals without winning one eventually?
The 1960s Lakers probably qualify, but some would wipe it away since they won in 1971-1972.
by Eric Stephen on Feb 8, 2012 12:04 PM PST up reply actions
The Dr. J Sixers would have been the clear winner here had they not fo-fo-fo’d the Lakers in 1983.
Sure if Worthy didn’t break his leg the Lakers would have fared better, but probably not four games better. :)
Those 76ers…
lost the Finals to Walton’s Blazers
lost the ECF against the Bullets
lost the Finals against the Lakers
blew a 3-1 lead in ECF against Boston
lost the Finals against the Lakers
in a 6-year span despite probably being the most talented team in the league during that span.
by Eric Stephen on Feb 8, 2012 12:09 PM PST up reply actions
Always astonished at how dominating Moses was in the fo-fo-fo and how quickly he was done. Based on that I always wondered how other high school to pro’s would do after they hit 30 but Kobe and Garnett are still ticking. Kobe might be the most amazing athlete of the 21st century so far.
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I first saw the elder Bullets/Spurs Moses, who at times was awesome but more of a serviceable aging star at that point. Also the poster boy for missing layups to pad your rebounding stats. :)
But the highlights of back-to-back MVP Moses were breathtaking.
by Eric Stephen on Feb 8, 2012 12:13 PM PST up reply actions
But the 72 team
was not even the same as the team that lost in 1970 to the Knicks. It is hard to compare the teams in the 60s since the league was much smaller and the Lakers were mostly West and Baylor until WIlt arrived.
Maybe the 80s Rockets with the original Twin Towers.
Back in the day
the early 1970s Chicago Bulls (Chet Walker, Norm Van Lier, Bob Love) used to be in this discussion.
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any of those guys in the Hall of Fame? (Drexler, Barkley, Stockton, Malone, Miller, Ewing; all HOFers except Miller who should be)
by Josie Becker on Feb 8, 2012 12:52 PM PST up reply actions
As a trio they were solid but never thought of any of them as HOF types.
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I remember hating to play them just as for years I’ve hated to play the Sloan coached Jazz teams. Sloan and Norm Van Lier were tough MF’rs.
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No, but they were a 50-win team several times (in an era were there were often only a handful of those) and Western (!) conference finalists a couple of those.
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Olney be tripping
Actually a bit interesting, though more just him musing than anything real, about Billy Beane’s future (I hadn’t realized that his new deal with Oakland wasn’t a done deal). Anyway:
There will be more opportunities to come. The incoming Los Angeles Dodgers ownership will decide whether to keep Ned Colletti, who has ably navigated the team and kept it competitive despite steep cuts in the payroll. If a change is made, Beane could be a president of baseball operations for the Dodgers and bring in somebody to be his general manager, like the Tampa Bay Rays’ Andrew Friedman, in the same way that Theo Epstein hired Jed Hoyer. The future of the New York Mets is uncertain, although it’s hard to imagine Beane diving into the challenge of remaking a New York franchise, given the fact that he steered around the Cubs’ opening.
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by underdog on Feb 8, 2012 10:49 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
The incoming Los Angeles Dodgers ownership will decide whether to keep Ned Colletti, who has ably navigated the team and kept it competitive despite steep cuts in the payroll.
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Is that true? Or was it that payroll was held fairly steady over the years.
Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent.
The payroll actually increased.
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You can argue that the total has increased but we’ve slightly slipped relative to the league, but I doubt that’s what Buster means and he’s not just ass pulling.
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by regfairfield on Feb 8, 2012 11:32 AM PST up reply actions
I have little doubt that he was just regurgitating the unwise conventional wisdom.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Ned Colletti is the Juan Pierre of GM’s.
by Lex in Brooklyn on Feb 8, 2012 11:45 AM PST up reply actions
Counting the final 7 roster spots this year as near-minimum guys…
2010 opening day plus DL: $78,849,260; w/dead money: $93,399,260
2011 opening day plus DL: $96,871,500; w/dead money: $113,199,096
2012 opening day plus DL: $89,900,000; w/dead money: $112,162,432
by Eric Stephen on Feb 8, 2012 11:48 AM PST up reply actions
seems like
Everyone wants Friedman to leave the Rays
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by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 8, 2012 10:51 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Capturing the Friedman?
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by underdog on Feb 8, 2012 10:51 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Why would he leave? He had the opportunity to interview for Astros job but turned it down. I don’t doubt we will have a new GM, but Friedman seems like a real long shot.
exactly
He seems to like his job
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by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 8, 2012 10:55 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
He hates his payroll. I don’t usually put on my Dodger Blue blinders but the difference between being a GM for the Astro’s and being the GM in Los Angeles for a new owner who just ponied up at least 1.6 Billion would be the difference between sleeping with Jamie McCourt and Scarlett Jo………..
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If you had a decent job would you interview for a much worse job?
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by regfairfield on Feb 8, 2012 10:56 AM PST up reply actions
How would it be a much worse job? Grant it, the Astros are terrible but that doesn’t change the overall responsibilities of the job, plus it was his hometown.
You have no chance of any success in the next five years and there’s a good chance that by the time you turn the team around you’ll be fired.
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by regfairfield on Feb 8, 2012 11:02 AM PST up reply actions
And hell from just a shear fun standpoint there’s not a lot you can do with the Astros other than trade Wandy at the deadline and pray some dumb team thinks Brett Wallace might be good.
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by regfairfield on Feb 8, 2012 11:04 AM PST up reply actions
Billy Beane or Pat Gillick
would be very Dodger-y moves
by Lex in Brooklyn on Feb 8, 2012 10:55 AM PST up reply actions
Beane is signed up for as long as Matt Kemp
by Eric Stephen on Feb 8, 2012 10:56 AM PST up reply actions
Full-time Dodger GMs since the 70’s — Al Campanis, Fred Claire, Kevin Malone, Dan Evans, Paul DePodesta, Ned Colletti. Only Malone had GMed before. Beane or Gillick would be a very un-Dodger-y move.
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Your right
I was approaching it from the Manager selections like Davey Johnson, Grady Little and Joe Torre, and the hiring of DePo
examples of hiring based on buzz from elsewhere. Headline grabbing.
by Lex in Brooklyn on Feb 8, 2012 11:38 AM PST up reply actions
New owner, can’t hold anything in the past to them. Whatever they do it will not because relevant to whatever previous ownership has done.
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Kim Ng seems like a strong candidate to me. She knows the ogranization, is well respected around MLB, and would be a big PR move for a new ownership group.
Would be a GREAT PR move
I can already picture Jay Caspian’s 8 million word article about it.
by Lex in Brooklyn on Feb 8, 2012 11:46 AM PST up reply actions
That one dude from the IE paper would just write about how unattractive she is.
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and Darren Rovell would second it.
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You mean Oberjuerge? Between shouting at the kids to get off his lawn.
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Wow.
OliverKayTimes:
BREAKING – YES, VERY MUCH BREAKING – NEWS: Fabio Capello has resigned as England manager
That’s soccer, by the way.
Harry Redknapp is considered the frontrunner to take over
by Josie Becker on Feb 8, 2012 11:30 AM PST up reply actions
I don’t care what color his knapp is, nor how how hirsute it may be.
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Keith Law
moved the Dodgers up 10 spots from where they were last season despite 5 players graduating or being dealt from his top ten list. (Players remaining from his 2011 list are Lee, Webster, Miller, Withrow and Martin).
Law’s top 100 prospects and organizational top tens come out tomorrow.
We have some great arms but our lack of positional prospects makes such a ranking ridiculous in my opinion.
Any other decent list I’ve seen has us with Lee, Webster, Eo and a ton of C prospects. If you see Withrow, Gould or someone else as possible impact arms I could see that shooting way up.
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by regfairfield on Feb 8, 2012 11:59 AM PST up reply actions
True
If we somehow have 4 or 5 legit impact arms 1-2 years away from the majors, that could be something. Martin, [the one lefty start I can’t think of], Reed, Tolleson.
Reg
it could be like you said earlier, with the promotions in the past few years and with some teams really stockpiling the best prospects, maybe this ranking is more of an indictment of just the level of prospects in MLB right now.
Of course BA ranked the Dodgers 22nd or something like that.
Personally I think somewhere in between the two rankings fits best, say 17 or 18ish...
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The bolded is hilarious
Fans of the NL West, Avert Thine Eyes:
Jerry Sands: Barry Bonds, Boog Powell, Ryan Klesko
Daniel Hudson: Dwight Gooden, Justin Verlander, Felix Hernandez
Hudson might be the most underrated pitcher in baseball, as he hasn’t stopped putting up ridiculous K/BB ratios yet. And while any of those three comps would be a good thing for Sands, I’m thinking that any Barry Bonds comparison should trigger a script on the PECOTA computer that would reboot it and try again.
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by Ivdown on Feb 8, 2012 11:58 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
The difference between Bonds and Sands is (Chris) Sabo.
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Matthew Lesko wears a better uniform that Ryan Klesko did for most of his career.
by Lex in Brooklyn on Feb 8, 2012 12:16 PM PST up reply actions
Wait until PECOTA 2.0 comes out this weekend
and it reads.
Jerry Sands: Juan Rivera, Chris Sabo, Nate Archibald
Next season’s NHL winter classic will be Toronto at Detroit playing at The Big House at the University of Michigan. Awesome.
haven’t watched a Original 8 Winter Classic since the first one. MLB should start a Heritage Classic game, rotate it between Wrigley, Fenway, Dodger, and Angel Stadium
by Josie Becker on Feb 8, 2012 12:05 PM PST up reply actions
It’s like she can’t help herself with the Angels stuff.
by Michael White on Feb 8, 2012 12:08 PM PST up reply actions
I saw Ryan pitch at the Big A
I saw Carew, Baylor, Grich and Downing play back in 1979, saw Game 4 in 1986 ALCS. But even with all that, Angel Stadium has no cache as a memorable place for baseball history.
Babe Ruth played at Fenway, hit the called shot at Wrigley. Sandy pitched his perfect game in Dodger Stadium, Gibson hit one of the most memorable home runs in history there.
No one is going to play Scott Spiezio’s 2002 WS home run on any non-2002 WS highlight show anytime soon.
Great events, great players make ballparks memorable. For the bulk of the Angel history, that has not been the case.
They didn't win a playoff game
until their 19th season, they didn’t win a pennant until their after their 40th year of existence. Name a homegrown player that made a long term impact until maybe even Tim Salmon and Garrett Anderson. Their best players made their starts on other teams Ryan, Carew, Baylor, Reggie Jackson.
Don’t see what not winning a play off game until their 19th season has anything to do it. They have been regulars for a while now. Also not sure what home grown player has to do with it. Nolan Ryan himself and his accomplishments as an Angel are legendary.
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Reggie Jackson’s 500th home run
Rod Carew’s 3,000th hit
Dave Henderson’s home run
Barry Bonds hit a ball 984 feet there in the 2002 World Series.
Those are just the Anaheim memories that came to mind immediately. I’m sure there are more.
by Eric Stephen on Feb 8, 2012 12:23 PM PST up reply actions
No one is granting Wrigley conservation status because of Babe Ruth. The Winter Classic in the NHL is about invoking pond hockey while paying tribute to the past of the Original 8 teams.
If I were planning a MLB Heritage Game, I’d want to highlight the older ballparks and the original teams. Would I have rather swapped Yankee Stadium for Angel Stadium? Absolutely. But New Yankee Stadium isn’t a part of baseball’s Heritage, it’s part of it’s future.
by Josie Becker on Feb 8, 2012 12:25 PM PST up reply actions
New Fan Post regarding Dodger Blogger Softball Tournament
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Took me a minute. No, I just want to make sure the players see it. You will see this more then once over the next few days.
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yeah, you linked back to this page. But it’s a good thing you’re reposting the link repeatedly, since the fanpost widget is down
by Josie Becker on Feb 8, 2012 12:34 PM PST up reply actions
My biggest fear is only Josie and Josh show up
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i actually did something for my teammates today
i went to the doctor (which I hate) to get a prescription to knock out this sinus infection.
Tweets to Keith Law about the Giants lack of foreign signees
keithlaw
Ohio is not a foreign country. “@WarninTracPwr: @keithlaw what about jonathon sanchez?”
Dodger Blogger Tourney Update Info
Please read if you are playing.
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Someone else please go rec this FanPost, that might get it to show up on the right side bar while the Fanpost widget is flakey.
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by David Young on Feb 8, 2012 1:37 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Thanks
I think seven rec’s will do! (And it did the trick.)
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To put the Dodgers' 15 Cactus League TV games in perspective
The Detroit Tigers are televising only four of their spring training games, for instance.
“Would you rather sign Prince Fielder, or watch Spring Training games”
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by regfairfield on Feb 8, 2012 12:48 PM PST up reply actions
to be fair
it’s a long drive from Detroit to Florida
by Josie Becker on Feb 8, 2012 12:48 PM PST up reply actions
spring training games are part of kcal’s contract with the dodgers. they get something like 50 total including the 15 or so spring games..
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Feb 8, 2012 12:58 PM PST up reply actions
KCAL is televising 2 Catcus League games and one freeway series game from Dodger Stadium.
by Eric Stephen on Feb 8, 2012 12:59 PM PST up reply actions
KCET is launching a new series
called Classic Cool Theater, with a classic movie, a cartoon, newsreel, and musical short. The Oakland Paramount theater shows classic movies with all the extras, saw It Happened One Night and Abbot and Costello Meet Frankenstein this way. Very cool.
a) Awesome idea
b) I hope they play this during the intermission.
by Eric Stephen on Feb 8, 2012 12:52 PM PST up reply actions
Walt Disney going from doodling son of day laborer to making short cartoons to show before RCA movies to Disneyland has to be one of the great all time rags to riches stories.
I purchased the George of the Jungle
Super Chicken
DVD
Sometimes nostalgia beats you over the head. The only thing I remember from both shows is the opening song. I may have to ask USCChris for some medicinal assistance to properly enjoy them.
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We bought a couple GotJ VHS tapes back when my daughter was small. I really enjoyed them, the main features as well as Super Chicken, Tom Slick, et al.
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haha dude I think saw George of the Jungle faded, and it was funny. If I remember correctly, there is one scene where he jumps into this pond and comes up with his teeth showing, and all the elephants scream “PIRANHA!!!!” and run super fast out of the pond. Or maybe that was Tarzana. Anyways, point is, kid movies are maybe the best movies to watch stoned.
It will be renamed for a day as part of a movie promotion to John Cartera.
#nottrue
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I think you’d like it.
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I may hate it with a passion, but I think he’d like it.
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Jon Heyman @JonHeymanCBS
juan pierre got 800 grand plus 300 grand more in incentives on PAs from 200 up to 450. #phillies
Long way from 44 million…
About 5 years.
I hope he makes all those incentives.
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bovada has Texans
tied for fourth best odds to win the sb next year. gb and saints and pats ahead of them.
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by nolander on Feb 8, 2012 1:29 PM PST via Android app reply actions
What if they get Peyton Manning?
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by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 8, 2012 1:31 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Are the Rockies going with all those fly-ball pitchers
because they looked at Eric’s projected starting infield and saw that that the non-Tulo part averages 37 years old? Better to have Dexter Fowler and Cargo trying to chase down outs than Blake, Helton, Scutaro (yeah, I know he’ll have range) flailing at grounders?
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Before I did any research I assumed Blake was a bench piece for them but it appears for now the plan is for him to start.
With Blake and Scutaro old and Tulo injury prone I figure one or two of the Nelson/EYjr/Herrera group will get a ton of playing time.
But altogether, especially if the Rockies get healthy, that will be a heck of an offense.
by Eric Stephen on Feb 8, 2012 1:46 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I figure one or two of the Nelson/EYjr/Herrera group will get a ton of playing time
Gotta be. If it is Tulo and the AARP out there, could also be a higher than average number of dunkers falling in, with the OFs having to play deeper than average because of the giant OF they have there.
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unless Arenado covers a Blake implosion
if Helton and Giambi go down, Cuddyer goes to 1st and the extra ABs go to Blackmon and/or Colvin
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 8, 2012 3:19 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
I hope it’s Rolando Blackmon and Shawn Colvin. (I know that one name isn’t spelled right – screw it.)
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Matt Cain apparently raided Brian Wilson's closet
for his outfit at Pebble Beach:
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He made Giants broadcaster Mike Krukow
look positively tame by comparison:
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Phil at his most delusional
I’d suggest you hardball players check out the rulebook, many things you do in hardball will not play in softball.
Yeah, right on that skipper….
by Hollywood Joe on Feb 8, 2012 1:53 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
Come on, I read it
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robotnotmadeofnails not playing for us has made everything harder. I think we all planned on him being the manager, rule explainer, pitcher and ultimate star.
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and I’m counting on you and your reading comprehension to carry the team!
by Hollywood Joe on Feb 8, 2012 1:57 PM PST up reply actions
Seems like the main things are
present a batting order before the game, have 10 players on the field, don’t leave the base until the ball is hit. Sounds like the rule about 2 women on the team is strictly being used for this tournament.
Maximum 12 players in the batting order.
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you can only have 10 players on the field at one time
but you can bat 12 in the game. Based on the minimalist writing of the additional rules, my guess would be you must have at least two women playing but only one needs to be on the field.
so Maddz and I will have to be in every lineup, but only one of us has to take the field. Good to know.
She’s good for now
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you calling me a liar
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bad phrasing, haha
Should have said “Good news if she can definitely come”
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So rather than reading a boring rules page, it’s fine if I wear some kind of t shirt and basketball shorts?
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Actually the rules say we should all wear the same clothing but fuck that, we don’t have uniforms. If they don’t let us play because of our attire we will make the 06:00 news
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Would all nude count as the same clothing?
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Aren’t they handing out t-shirts? If that is the case then all 14 teams could wear the same clothing. :)
I bought us shirts
The
Chilling
MotherFuckers
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You went that long? I thought it was going to be “The GFYs”.
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I hope like you previously said we don't have to forfeit on some stupid technicality
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Right. It would suck, to have woke up at 6AM on a Saturday, drove 75 miles, paid $38, cancelled other plans, just to have to forfeit because of some technicality. Out of 14 teams, I bet at least one team has problems. Even if I were playing against that team, I’d hope there was some contingency plan in place to let them play.
Yet, we had three entry fee people who I have not heard back from
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Good think we had depth, huh meercatNed?
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I’m not sure how hard I should try to contact them. It would make coaching easier not having 16 players. But I also know if I don’t, something is going to happen where we would have been glad to have 16. Such a conundrum
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I wouldn’t worry about it. They know where to find you. If they show, they show, if they don’t, they don’t.
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We may need 16 players if we are playing 3+ games
But I get you.
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Exhibition games? Automatic outs for the missing players?
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Plus the $5 on the slow pitch batting cages I am going to blow in about 45 minutes. Goal is three things.
1. Not get hurt (oh, my back)
2. Not get embarrassed (Daddy, why is that grown man hitting in the girls cage).
3. Get my timing down.
I’d like to score on Josie
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by meercatjohn on Feb 8, 2012 2:30 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
HCTING
don’t leave me hanging here
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Don’t forget to bring your Food Bank food
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Screw that. Give them more money.
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I ain’t swinging in no batting cages. This old body only has so many swings left in it, and they will all be used on the field.
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Unless things go horribly wrong all my swinging will be done in the cage.
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That’s how it usually is for tamed meercats.
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in every lineup
We are going to be watching the stretching exercises you two do very intently. Uh, to make sure you do them well and don’t get hurt.
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I’m bringing two dresses just in case
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In your size only. What’s that, about a 12, 14?
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That dude is on your team and your problem
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hehe – I know. I hate to disappoint him but I am going to be wearing my baseball pants. I will throw some shorts in the car just in case I have a wardrobe malfunction or wet my pants fielding a line drive.
The forecast high for West Covina on Sat
is 67 degrees. I’m wearing my sweats. I have no baseball pants anymore. If I did, I would’ve worn them.
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Not planning on sliding.
And if I do, I slide funny anyway so sliding shorts don’t do much.
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I will wear a cup though, so it will hurt less when Maddz or Josie kicks me in the balls for saying something I shouldn’t have.
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All I know for sure is that we have no ringers. I have no clue about the other blogs. I didn’t even know there WAS a Dodger Bobble blog (our first opponent).
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I think he e-mailed a bunch of blogs to gauge interest. Pretty sure we got one and said we’d be interested and could likely field a team.
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I fear you may be right, but I am going forward under the assumption that we are going to kick everyone’s ass
by Hollywood Joe on Feb 8, 2012 2:54 PM PST up reply actions
I expect some teams will have ringers but I don’t think it will be as prevalent as you think. Any of them would be hard pressed to have a female as good as Maddz. Brenton, HJ, Gary, Brandon are all ballers. We should be very competitive. Pitching could be our achillies heal.
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For over-50 dudes, the meercat and I won’t suck at catcher.
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you forgot about our resident singles hitting
no fielding…dude.
Ok, i’ll be quiet now.
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are you kidding, did you check out the substitution rules? Players who start the game can be substituted for and still come back, but a player who is a substitution can not come back after they have been replaced. It is going to be chaos
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Vin Scully interview in March's Golf Digest
Why he keeps working:
“Some people die twice: once when they retire, and again when they actually pass away. Fear of the first one is a big incentive for me to keep working. Players, writers, people who work at the ballpark and front office, when I quit I know I’ll never see them again. I’ve never been the type to come to the ballpark and hang out; I’ve gone to one game in the last 60 years that I wasn’t working. I keep working because I don’t want to lose my friends. "
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I’m going to make every effort this summer to get to know Vinny, so he’ll have even more reason to come to the ballpark:)
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Or
you can all send me $100 to not make that effort
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How are you ever going to get the blogger seat away from Eric?
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ah, it is my understanding that Eric will no longer need the blogger seat, weekends are not up for grabs
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isnt his home park going to be portland anyway?
its a minor league deal..
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Feb 8, 2012 2:18 PM PST up reply actions
Portland professional baseball is dead.
by Michael White on Feb 8, 2012 2:21 PM PST up reply actions
its sad that I had to dig back to my memory of ‘tim stauffers triumphant return to the padres’ in 2010 as my portland beavers reference point.
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Feb 8, 2012 2:24 PM PST up reply actions
There’s still one hell of a college baseball team in that town
by Michael White on Feb 8, 2012 2:22 PM PST up reply actions
too bad UCLA couldn’t make the College World Series in 2011
by Josie Becker on Feb 8, 2012 2:27 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
harvard westlake
has a pretty dynamic duo eligible for the draft this year.. the BA mock draft I saw linked on bbtf had them a #2 and #15.
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Feb 8, 2012 2:28 PM PST up reply actions
good news, everyone
we’re not on this list!
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/the-10-worst-transactions-of-the-winter/
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Feb 8, 2012 2:31 PM PST reply actions
Cool ass card
Any irony that it’s #88?
by silverwidow on Feb 8, 2012 2:31 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I wish they were facing towards each other instead of away from each other
could have called it “Dodger Love” or maybe the very 80’s title “Prelude to a kiss” or….
by Hollywood Joe on Feb 8, 2012 2:49 PM PST up reply actions
He’s making the big announcement that UCSD has accepted their invitation to the SEC
by Michael White on Feb 8, 2012 3:02 PM PST up reply actions
John Ireland, accidentally sending a direct message as a regular message to his entire Twitter feed
but quickly deleted:
I think the Lakers would do it, even though they were trading big for small. Do you know if Rondo was ever offered for Gasol?
I wonder who he was asking?
Twitter mistakes are going to be so much fun in the future
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Why use tweet for any sensitive info? How is it better than any number of instant messaging programs, email, or texting?
by Hollywood Joe on Feb 8, 2012 3:13 PM PST up reply actions
in my experience, it’s what gets used before you know someone well enough to have their cell phone, and then texting takes over once y’all are familiar enough
For example, Josie and I used to communicate via twitter (and here), but I finally badgered her phone number out of her so she will get texts from now on.
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Direct messaging in twitter seems exactly like instant messaging to me. ICQ in a different format, if you will.
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I do communicate with a few folks with DM
one doesn’t use her phone and the other is always on Twitter.
With apologies to everyone I’m going to link to page 2
As a 17-year-old he saw the police charging his house, and as recounted in a Washington Post story four years ago, he was still in bed and pulled the covers over his head as the police broke down the front door.
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Just back from prison, the handcuffs were on him again as police found cocaine stashed in the garage.
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Off topic Josh Macciello
He’s talking on espn radio right now with Mason and Ireland. Who is he really, where did his money come from? He sounds really determined to get the Dodgers. Thats always good to hear from a potential owner..
his constant reassurance that he’s legit makes me think that he’s not very legit. it’s like when someone just keeps repeating that they’re not a racist
by court168627 on Feb 8, 2012 3:23 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
yea. i hope he is for real because if he really does have that kind of money it would help the dodgers a lot…
Patrick Soo Shiong really does have the money.
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Strange
Everyone focuses on does the owner have money, Dan Snyder has money
Money is not the thing
by Hollywood Joe on Feb 8, 2012 3:45 PM PST up reply actions
But it will be for Frank
MLB will try to craft the list of approved owners so they can get an owner they can stomach.
No one knows
his money is allegedly tied up in gold stocks he bought as an investment. He rents his house in the Valley. He doesn’t have any tie ins to LA or baseball.
I just read about the gold mines. Apparently his company and a few others own a bunch of gold mines valued at something like 10 billion. its ridic. i like his enthusiasm but im still skeptical
No interest in this guy becoming owner.
If Patrick Soo Shiong teams with Magic, that is CLEARLY the winner.
We will meet him this Saturday during the Dodger Blogger Tournament. He’s so well heeled he sponsored one of the teams and I believe made a nice contribution to the LA Food Bank.
No one has even confirmed he’s in the second round other then himself.
I’d like to believe he is the real deal, would be interesting to have such a character but even if he has the money I don’t see MLB letting him become an owner.
he will get a lot of attention this Saturday
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From what he’s saying on the radio it sounds like MLB aren’t going to let him into the next round. I really do hope he’s real. If he says anything during the Tournament make sure to keep us updated!
Burning Bridges
…. is what I think he just did in that interview. One of the callers laid it out just right. He comes off as a used car salesman. Mason/Ireland also nailed it, that after what MLB just went through with with McCourt, there is no way they let Josh buy this team. Might not be fair, but will be the case. In this interview he seems to be burning bridges with the comments he made. That is where Mark Cuban outshines him. Mark at least knows when he is beat and gracefully bows out (like he did with Rangers).
he will get a lot of attention this Saturday
Through ignoring him I will seek to teeter the attention givers totter
by Hollywood Joe on Feb 8, 2012 3:42 PM PST up reply actions
Any thoughts on the new rising star format for the all-star game. Kind of like the draft idea, this is the pool.
In addition to Griffin, the other second year players chosen are DeMarcus Cousins (Sacramento Kings), Landry Fields (New York Knicks), Paul George (Indiana Pacers), Gordon Hayward (Utah Jazz), Greg Monroe (Detroit Pistons), Tiago Splitter (San Antonio Spurs), Evan Turner (Philadelphia 76ers), and John Wall (Washington Wizards).
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The first year players in the pool are MarShon Brooks (New Jersey Nets), Brandon Knight (Detroit Pistons), Kyrie Irving (Cleveland), Kawhi Leonard (San Antonio Spurs), Markieff Morris (Phoenix Suns), Ricky Rubio (Minnesota), Tristan Thompson (Cleveland Cavaliers), Kemba Walker (Charlotte Bobcats), and Derrick Williams (Minnesota).
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I think its an interesting new way to do the rookie sophomore thing, but it takes the rivalry out of it a bit…
Would be a fun way to do an All-Star Draft.
Have to take managers out of the equation so no feeling are hurt, but if you let the President of each League draft the AL / NL all star team I think it would be highly interesting and make for a perfect ESPN Sunday Night Broadcast.
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I like this idea. I’m tired of the east west stuff. Didnt players wear this team jerseys instead of all star jerseys like 10 years back? or am i just making stuff up
currently, the MLB All Stars wear their team jerseys, the team jerseys are batting practice/home run derby
That’s how hockey does it.
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Really, does it work?
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Sounds like 6 chili dogs are now a reality!
by Hollywood Joe on Feb 8, 2012 3:36 PM PST up reply actions
Damn I was going there
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I don't know if anyone asked
until know.
Believe it or not, the Sharp worked like a charm but the Samsung failed. With how much the latter is pimped, I figured it to be the other way around.
Unrelated, but
I’m rooting for the link to SD’s blog to read “Asslamp Ball”
Please, can it?
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by Taylor Maricle on Feb 8, 2012 3:44 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
So now you can afford to buy the Slurpees in the Slurpee cups?
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Fill that fuckin Big Gulp up to the top
and I’ll fuckin pay the extra
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If Dee Gordon gives the Dodgers Andrus level production over the next three years, should we be content with that…. 271/340/343…?
In a year that has been so improbable, the impossible has happened
Jon is back
As he reports on Dodger Thoughts –
freelancing on ESPN Los Angeles, first up, an interview with DeJon Watson
Remember, authors don’t write the headlines.
Just to whet your appetite further
In addition to Eovaldi, De La Rosa and Gordon, Watson also provides a status report on Jerry Sands, Zach Lee, Garret Gould, Allen Webster, Chris Withrow, Shawn Tolleson, Steven Ames, Scott Van Slyke, Alex Castellanos, Chris Reed and Pedro Baez.
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Especially for silverwidow
On Eovaldi:
“He’s definitely capable of pitching out of the bullpen,” Watson said, “but it’s a little hard to find quality starters and to develop young starters, so for us I think it’ll be a tough decision at the end of camp on where we place him.”
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One more
On Allen Webster (emphasis mine):
“He’s got four legitimate pitches right now,” Watson said. “He’s 93 to 97 with his fastball, throws both a two- and four-seamer. … His changeup is a plus-plus changeup, and sometimes he tends to fall in love with it. We have to get him to understand his curveball and his slider is above-average.”I want to believe that that means he is sitting 94.
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Lending more credence to the Jim Loney theory.
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Barber advice
So I found this place that does $8 haircuts and is open 7 days a week. Tried it last night and it was excellent. Even gave a $5 tip!
My dilemma is whether I should let my old barber know I won’t be back. Normally, I would just stop going, but he’s a real good dude and I’d feel bad about it. Any idea on how to handle it?
a) Have you ever interacted with your old barber outside of getting your haircut?
b) Approximately how many haircuts have you received from said barber?
IMO the answer is almost always ‘cut the cord and move on’ unless you know the dude personally or something.
Right, why let him know you found a better barber, better to let him think you just died.
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I mean when I find a better blog I’m not going to let Eric know about it
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by meercatjohn on Feb 8, 2012 3:58 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
cannot rec via app
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by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 8, 2012 4:01 PM PST via Android app up reply actions 1 recs
a) No.
b) Twice a month for the past ~18 months.
Dude raised his price to $15 not too long ago, which is another reason to stop going.
Yeah, just bolt. No need to say goodbye unless you feel compelled to.
He will know to lower prices when he sees he has lost customers.
Also, twice a month? Damn. Super short hair or what? My brother Greg has a flat top and people in the military think his hair is too short, and I don’t think he goes twice a month.
We now know two things about SW. Short hair, vain
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I’m completely shocked SW is a two haircuts per month guy.
by Michael White on Feb 8, 2012 4:04 PM PST up reply actions
I wait until my hair looks completely shitty, then I wait three more weeks, and then I go get it cut.
Still chasing the dream of mediocrity
So every three weeks then?
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by David Young on Feb 8, 2012 4:18 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I do the same thing
but only because when I get a haircut barbers seem to insist on cutting it a certain minimum length no matter what so if i go right after i need one they’ll cut it too short.
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by Taylor Maricle on Feb 8, 2012 4:18 PM PST up reply actions
I cut my own hair
it takes 60 seconds for me. Figured why pay for that when I can use the #2 setting as easy as they can
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You can’t find someone to do that to you for free?
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Very difficult to buzz yourself, you end up looking like an erratic mow job. Shaving is easier
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You get your hair cut twice a month
18 months seem kind of short to worry about. I mean I have had the same person cut my hair for the last 12 years so that would be a little different.
So to sum up
Just move on to the new place. Though it sounds like in the end if you keep tipping 5 bucks, you will only be saving 3-4 bucks per haircut.
I think the biggest revelation in this is that SW tips his barber more then his waitress.
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you keep tipping 5 bucks and at that rate you get your salad tossed
by Hollywood Joe on Feb 8, 2012 4:16 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
straight edge shave?
Someone’s bucket list should include getting a straight edge shave with beautiful bosums beckoning
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Careful, you distract her and your crimson-red arterial blood will be splattered all across the shop.
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My daughter was over recently and I was shaving. I normally use a typical three-blade razor. She remarked that her last boyfriend used an electric razor and that did seem a bit wimpy to her, probably because she’d always seen me shave with a blade. I said that I liked the blade better, but I had never done the straight-razor, hot towel thing like they do in the classic barber shops and that I ought to do that someday.
I’m looking for a gift certificate on Fathers Day.
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I can set you up if you want to drive to Venice. Our bike store is right next to an old fashioned Barber Shop with some sweet young things manning the chairs.
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Yes, I have not gone but our manager loves the place and they love him.
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I’ve driven past the place. It intrigues.
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I not hold still enough if a young lovely were administering the shave.
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The Royal Shave, followed by a Royal Red Robin Burger (if you are into a fried egg on your burger), sounds like a pretty regal day.
The first time I had a fried egg on my burger was at the Westwood location of Fatburger. It is an excellent combination.
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She can afford the $35 package.
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My daughter was over recently and I was shaving.
hope this doesn’t tie in to the naked bosoms shave…
I'd ask
Sal Maglie, but he’s dead.
I’d ask this guy, but he’s dead too.
(One of Topps all-time terrible airbrush jobs)
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Pretty sure Barber was a wonderkid with the Orioles when they kicked our ass
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He was on that team, but did not pitch in the WS. The four CGs were by Drabowski, Palmer, Bunker and McNally. Fuckers.
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Drabowski was guy who moved us down in relief. Had to be someone else for game one, probably McNally
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I was off on Barbers age. Thought he was younger.
66 Orioles
McNally 23
Palmer 20
Bunker 21 – Bunker won 19 as a 19 year old in 64
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And this was after they traded Milt Pappas (for Frank Robinson) who was age-27 that year, but for the Reds.
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Kind of amazing, Barber was an All-Star in 66 but did not pitch in the World Series. One now wonders if he got hurt and Jim Palmer replaced him
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Per Wiki:
He was again named an All-Star one last time in 1966, but tendinitis in his elbow prevented him from appearing in the game, and also kept him out of the World Series
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After July 14 he only pitched 6 times, including 4 (brief) starts.
But in one of them, on September 23, Barber pitched 5 no-hit innings with 3 walks and 6 strikeouts, but left after five.
1B Charlie Vinson got the Angels’ first hit with 2 outs in the 7th.
Barber’s numbers went downhill pretty steeply after ’66. Probably needed TJ surgery.
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i quit my old barber because he sucked
i never looked back. fuck him. my wedding picture will forever be tainted.
I’ve had this issue with comic book stores, but there you have to let them know if they’re pulling books for you, which can be an awkward conversation.
Getting your hair cut at a comic book store might be why you have comic book hair
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by meercatjohn on Feb 8, 2012 4:05 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
i havent paid
for a haircut in over 10 years.
but i kinda like my long hair and the back is terrible and needs to be cut.
my best haircuts have been done in bathrooms but that aint gonna happen, to shave or not to shave?
Damn CLipper game already started
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i hate being at work and missing the games… then i cant go on the internet after the game starts cause im recording it at home..
Another Dodger / Clipper fan
Wooo hoooo
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haha..I was the only person in my group of friends, or really anyone that i’ve met who supportsthe dodgers and clippers. all my friends are angels lakers…i even have a friend who is angels lakers usc….we disagree on every sports team hes also arsenal and im liverpool…hes ducks im kings…its just arguements all the time haha
Damn, you were doing so well until you mentioned soccer teams. Now Josie will be all over you.
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Go Liverpool :)
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Woo! I’m a die hard liverpool fan. I haven’t missed a game in 3 years…well thats a bit much. I’ve missed like 2 games in 3 years :)
yea…i am aware lol. but i know you remember the last few years. the 4-1 drubbing and the 3-1 last year. look for more of that this weekend :)
are you glowing
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Now is when to show him your link, and you have him hooked
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have you checked out MLS at all DannyDodger? I happen to be SBNation’s Galaxy blogger: www.lagconfidential.com
Ive watched galaxy games here and there to get my soccer fix but honestly I find the mls just lacks so much in relation to the EPL. That being said i do support the galaxy and ill make sure to check out your stuff. I’m trying to get better at writing analysis and preview stuff as well so I started my own blog thing and I mostly write about fantasy sports and then I throw epl stuff in here and there. I definitely have a long way to go before I get to where you guys are writing wise(considering I’m an engineering my writing has always been very stats based haha). But I’m gonna write a preview for the united liverpool game this weekend so you should check it out. its thewaiverwirefanatic.blogspot.com
hah. ill be happy if we dent your title hopes this year and get that last champions league spot…not very lofty goals for such a prestigious team but hey we gotta start somewhere. i wonder what the atmosphere is going to be like with the whole suarez evra thing. It wasn’t that bad during the fa cup game
I wonder if he’s in any sort of game shape..i mean i know they wouldn’t let him play if he wasn’t a bit fit but still..guy hasn’t played a game since december. and even then he was playing in China…
No Kyrie?
to bad
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Martin scores his first Clipper basket
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Has taken 3 shots in one minute. I’m thinking miss, tip miss, tip make.
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Can the Clippers go fo’, fo’, fo’, fo’ in the playoffs?
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we may not even beat the Cav’s. Mo and Martin 2 for 10.
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That is why I don’t watch 1st half basketball much. 40 – 40, 16 point 3rd quarter mostly Paul and Butler with five minutes to go.
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Is it too late
To set up the Dodger Blogger Tournament to be televised?
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Man, at the very least Eric should be live-streaming an audio play-by-play of the TBLA games.
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There is always talk of a podcast.
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Are you supposed to balance out an airplane?
I know which way this one is leaning.
Tommy Lasorda @TommyLasorda
Guess who is sitting in front of me on my flight to the Dominican? The one and only Big Papi. Bueno suerte Papi!
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by David Young on Feb 8, 2012 5:47 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Remember when I was wondering about
Jon’s new blog adventure using Word Press? Well, apparently Sports Illustrated uses Word Press for it’s blogs too. How large news organizations get away with not having their own platform is interesting to me.
If a WordPress account is accepted, does that mean the WordPress platform must be in use?
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Subcontract what you cannot do cost-effectively. If your expertise is content, don’t get bogged down in platform work.
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wordpress
can be very customizable. wordpress.org at least. wordpress.com is hosted by them, but wordpress.org is just the software that can be hosted anywhere and customized as long as you know CSS.
im actually teaching a web design class but its mostly about creating content and blogging and what not.
I hope Yankee prospect Mason Williams
has a plus-plus fastball and throwsclassical gas?
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While searching for that link
I had no idea that Jim “Spiders and Snakes, Wildwood Weed” Stafford once played Classical Gas on The Tonight Show (Carson version), with a flat pick!
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Long before there was MIA at the Super Bowl
Jim Stafford appeared on the revival of the Smothers Brothers show in the late 80s and flipped the bird his own way. (Link is to the exact spot in the video, so no waiting!)
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Josh Macciello alert ...
he was on the 2nd hour of Mason and Ireland today complaining that he is not being taken seriously by the company handling the Dodger bid. he’s going crazy wanting to talk to McCourt saying he’ll outbid everybody. Josh confirms that he bid $2.2 billion and said on air he’ll pay $3billion if he has to. it was awesome! i like this guy.
later Mason & Ireland looked over Josh’s papers that indicated he’s bringing $10 billion to the dance. how you gonna out bid a crazy man?
Mason and Ireland are not what I would term investigative reporters. I will believe he really has money when someone credible can substantiate it.
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apparently Josh will have all $10 billion in his US bank by the 20th of this month. i really hope he’s legit and he wins. he’ll make being a dodger fan so much more interesting.
When it is sent to him by the Nigerian Minister of Finance?
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So I’m sure someone has actually checked to make sure Armital Sports exists other than me right?
Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant
anagrams to
“star or palmist”.
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Because it would be real embarrassing if no one noticed that this company that can generate billions in revenue has zero trace on the Internet or an address.
Minor League Central @mlcentral @andrewngrant
apparently Josh is upset that the BlackStone group is not taking him seriously. they haven’t even taken the $75,000 he has for them to do his background check.
i know people are suspicious about the guy. but seriously, what would be his motivation in pranking people … at this level?
Publicity. I was just curious about what Armital does and it lead me down this path. Any projects on their site are either vague buzzwords about “financial connections” and a Led Zepplin Rock Opera that isn’t referenced anywhere.
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yeah. i’ve been on it. it is kinda sketchy. i tell myself he’s too busy making money to update it :)
He’s more sketchy than the guy you are named after!
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Somewhere I saw his business partner in his Nevada LLC named “Arthur Oganesyan”. Now I don’t know if it is the same guy or not, but a Las Vegas Sun news story on a credit card fraud scheme has this:
Eight people were arrested in Southern Nevada for numerous local credit card, fraud, forgery and identity theft charges; narcotics charges; weapons violations, including altering the serial number on a firearm and possession of a stolen firearm; burglary and theft, Metro Police said.
Those arrested in Southern Nevada are Ramon Adam, Miguel Ferrer, David Karapetyan, Albert Oganesyan, Rouben Palikyan, Oganes Adetyan, Arthur Oganesyan and Aly Hussan Ahmed.
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This is from Macciello's bio sent from a PR firm a few weeks back
Native New Yorker, Joshua Macciello is the CEO of ArmItal Inc., a company involved in real
estate and mineral mining investments both domestically and overseas. He began his business
career on the New York Stock Exchange under his brother-in-law, Edward O’Connell working
for Charles J. Bocklet Jr. and Dick Grosso where he quickly learned the ins and outs of money
management. Passionate about the Entertainment industry, he moved to Los Angeles where
he broke into the business as a showroom manager for Bud Friedman at the world famous
Improv Comedy Club. Shortly after that he became a talent scout for VH1’s reality television
show "But Can They Sing?" and later moved on to production for the hit show "Deal or No
Deal." He quickly transitioned into the movie business and began optioning and developing
scripts with producers Arnold Rifkin "Die Hard", "Die Hard 2", Christopher Eberts "Lord of
War" and "Lucky Number Sleven". Joshua then formed Lorain Avenue Production/Macciello
Productions with Don E. Scott, CEO of Omni Wealth, financing films such as "Walkaway Joe"
with Woody Harrelson and DavidStrathairn, "Charisma" with Joe Eszterhas and "Finn" with Lee
Daniels and Tobey McGuire.
Most recently, Joshua invested and raised capital in a partnership with Michael Bash/Cambridge
Enterprise to purchase Urban Logic Engineering. He has also formed a partnership with
Theodore Bodnar/Industrial General to develop resorts in Bora Bora, Tahiti and Riga, Latvia.
He is currently developing a Las Vegas show about Led Zeppelin titled "Stairway to Heaven".
Prior to beginning his business career, Joshua was a standout baseball player for Jefferson High
School in Tampa, Florida with historical coach Emeterio "Pop" Cuesta. Hewas recruited on a
full scholarship to the Alabama Southern Community College where he played for one year.
Joshua resides in Studio City, California with his wife and three children. He was born in
Brooklyn, New York, raised by his single mother and two sisters.
My favorite part is in bold.
Holy shit, no one spent a second on IMDB and noticed that isn’t true?
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Walkaway Joe"
with Woody Harrelson and DavidStrathairn
THIS FILM DOESN’T EVEN EXIST!
There’s no excuse for an actual news organization to give this guy the time of day.
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Macciello, Don E. Scott and Lorain Avenue Productions each have pages at IMDBPro, but there are no projects attached to either.
And let’s just look at it this way.
He wants us to believe that he came from basically nothing in the entertainment industry (showroom manager at the Improv) then became producer of a TV show quickly thereafter. Then began making movies. Then began buy companies. And he made enough money doing this that he could afford to drop up to $3 billion on a sports team.
And somehow NO ONE had ever heard of him.
Then he’s out being the most relentless self promoter this side of a VH1 Reality Show?
Its BS. I have no idea how ANYONE ever believed in his bid.
I liked how it sounded until I decided to look into it.
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That doesn’t relate to Mason and Ireland though. ;-)
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Not to say I told you so, but... I did tell y'all so.
I’m shocked, shocked! to learn that there was trolling going on. /Captain Renault
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I think that
this sums up my thoughts on Joshua Maccielo.
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Apperntly
they’re reopening Clifton’s Cafeteria soon, restored to the original interior. I went downtown to Philipe’s for their last day serving 10c coffee, looks like I have another downtown historic meal adventure ahead of me : )
That is an old time favorite of Verdell’s. Last time we hit downtown we went in but most of it was closed for restoration. It was kind of awesome inside, looking forward to taking her again now that the restoration is complete. Once again, thanks for the heads up. You are gold
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I remember eating in Clifton’s as a very small child in the 60s. Was totally intrigued at the time by the whole cafeteria concept (didn’t have one in my school) – sliding the tray down the line and picking what you wanted to eat!
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Say what?
LA Country OK’s $1,000 fine for throwing Football, Frisbees on the beach.
People are so lame sometimes.
City council is getting payoffs from the beach ball industry.
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How about a $1000 fine for bringing beach balls into public sporting venues?
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Maybe you should hire some lobbiests to grease some palms like the beach ball cabal did.
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The updated rules now prohibit "any person to cast, toss, throw, kick or roll" any object other than a beach ball or volleyball "upon or over any beach" between Memorial Day and Labor Day.
Don’t toss that sandwich to your buddy!
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Good grief
The frickin’ glass bottles that people bring to the beach and break are way more dangerous than a football or a frisbee. How about raising the damn littering fine? Lame.
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Exceptions allow for ball-throwing in predesignated areas, when a person obtains a permit, or playing water polo "in or over the Pacific Ocean".
I want to know who got the water polo exemption in there.
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Probably some calm inlet in Marina Del Rey, which is unincorporated LA County.
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Cotton
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Feb 8, 2012 9:13 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
If we criminalize frisbees only criminals will play frisbee.
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by regfairfield on Feb 8, 2012 6:20 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
You get enough lawsuits
and you make a move. Also makes it easier for their employees when it comes to any disputes between beach goers.
Juries need to stop finding the county liable whenever people hurt each other in a public place. Puh-leze.
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If they knowing left a defect cart in service that would be one thing, but if the kid climbed up and out while your back was turned, that’s your own fault.
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Same way I know that DUIs are just as bad as beachballs and parking in the handicapped zone.
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speaking of potential owners
Bill Shaikin @BillShaikin
New #Dodgers bidder: Michael Heisley, owner of NBA Memphis Grizzlies. Story soon at latimes.com/sports.
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hah, no, our new closer, Marc!
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Personally I don't see him as a fit
75 y.o. non local guy who thinks local guys should own teams if possible. ;)
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I could literally see any team in the NL West both winning it and finishing last other than the Padres
who I can’t see winning it. Ok, and I can’t see the DBacks finishing last.
But would predict Padres last, just because they are rebuilding and have so many young pieces that may not be ready yet, other teams all flawed, erratic, not bad.
My NL West predictions that no one asked for
AZ
SF
LA
CO
SD
with 2-4 and maybe 1-4 pretty close.
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i think rockies are significantly worse this year than last
And last year they only ended up winning 73 games.
Helton, Scutaro, Blake, Hernandez are all old.
They dont have any above average starters with DeLaRosa out…Rogers/Nicasio have some upside but the other guys arent good.
Their bullpen has very little strike you out talent.
You only have a payroll of $73mils…and you decide to give almost $30 mils to Scutaro, Guthrie, Cuddyer, Betancourt??…
I actually think the Rockies did worse than the Dodgers did this year.
Rockies have 2 cost controlled stars on great contracts in Tulo/Cargo…and the team they’ve built around them is crap.
Their bullpen has very little strike you out talent.
Betancourt and Brothers each had more than a strikeout per inning last year, Reynolds struck out 50 in 50.2 innings, and Belisle was at 7.3 K/9. Those are their back four, and they combined for 240 strikeouts in 225.2 innings in 2011.
I don’t think they will do very well because of their starting rotation, but I think you are selling the bullpen short.
I was slightly kidding, but impressive game from him tonight anyways, just one game, but only start this season.
That's nothing
The Lakers passed on Jeremy Lin three times in the past 18 months. The most recent instance was when Golden State cut him, and the Lakers chose to keep rookie 2nd round pick Morris AND an injured Derrick Caracter (who they just cut) instead of signing Lin for the minimum. I think Ned Colletti in his tower of Orthanc has taken possession of Mitch Kupchak’s brain.
by The Dude Abides on Feb 8, 2012 8:41 PM PST up reply actions
I think Golden State should feel far stupider
The guy is FROM the Bay Area, Asian American, local fans loved him, they are a shitty franchise in desperate need for a pick-me-up story. Warriors are the team that really blew it by not being a tad more patient with him.
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But the Warriors have two of the best PG types in the league already
They had to cut Lin to free up enough cap space to sign DeAndre Jordan to an offer sheet. Looking it up, the Lakers never had the chance to get him in December because first Houston and then New York claimed Lin on waivers. But it still stands that the team did very little to shore up the weak PG position after the 2010 championship (Fish’s Game 3 vs the Celtics notwithstanding). They re-signed (and overpaid) Fish, they signed Steve Blake instead of Dorell Wright (who they never even considered), and they picked a SF and a PF in the 2nd round of the 2010 draft.
by The Dude Abides on Feb 8, 2012 10:09 PM PST up reply actions
Fair points all
Didn’t the Warriors have Lin earlier though, too, once before? Anyway, I agree about the Lakers and PG, just that I myself didn’t think Lin would the answer and felt from the beginning he would be fun for GS fans to have, to root for… ah well, all water under the bridge now I guess. At least Lakers are getting Blake back soon, not having him at all is still worse than having his erratic self in.
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The Warriors outbid the Lakers for him in Summer 2010
He was an undrafted free agent and lit up overall #1 pick John Wall in the summer league. The Warriors offered him two years at the minimum, the Lakers only one year. The Lakers had two 2nd-round picks in that draft, and chose Ebanks and Caracter over Lin.
by The Dude Abides on Feb 9, 2012 1:01 AM PST up reply actions
I assume he created the “Nello Wafers” that I fondly remember from my youth….
Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent.
It never occurred to mean there was still a real Ferrara behind the “Ferrara Pan” on the box. Loved Lemonheads as a kid; still do. Like Boston Baked Beans too.
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Dodger Bidding
The reporting of this whole process seems pretty weak to me. We supposedly had 8 bidders pass the first hurdle, and now Shaikin is reporting that there is an 11th bidder making it to the second round. Was his analysis and his sources, and everyone else who agreed with 8 being the number, wrong? Or is the process very fluid? In either case, does that also mean that the assumption that certain bidders who didn’t make the first round is also wrong?
If 11 (and counting) is the current number, that means MLB has pocketed $275K for this process. (And counting, apparently.)
I think the process is fluid
The bidders that didn’t make it, Cubsn, Gilbert, Garvey Hershiser, crazy dude, we’re all confirmed by those individuals themselves.
IIRC it was always "here are the 8 we know made it through there may be more"
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Not to far off
The accepted story is that Arnold would ask the bartender at the 19th Hole for a half iced tea, half lemonade drink. One time, after seeing him get tat drink, someone said let me get that Palmer drink.
About ten years ago, someone approached Palmer about licensing his name and image for a packaged drink. That drink is now sold by Arizona Tea and sells over 50 million dollars a year.
You've heard of the John Daly?
1/3 iced tea, 1/3 lemonade, 1/3 Jack Daniels
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Kuroda and the Yankees
sorry if it’s been posted, but will miss seeing him pitch for LA – he’ll always be one of my all time favorite Dodgers
this is sad to me.
i hate that Kuroda is gone.
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The Orioles got rid of almost all their domestic scouts and decided “we’ll just mine talent from all around the globe”. Their scouts are now banned in South Korea.
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