Don Mattingly Enjoys Instructional Side Of Spring Training
by Eric Stephen on Mar 1, 2012 2:18 PM PST
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Day 10 of spring training at Camelback Ranch has passed much like the previous nine days in Dodgers camp, relatively uneventful. The team is injury free for the most part, and we are nearing the start of Cactus League play, which begins Monday.
From a writer's standpoint, the days are starting to blend together and the games will be a welcome change of pace, but manager Don Mattingly understandably has a different point of view. In his second year at the helm, with his staff relatively intact with another year under their belt, Mattingly has relished the instructional part of camp.
"I haven't really thought much about the games yet," said Mattingly. "There are a lot of things you touch on before you start. Last year it felt like we were here for two days then games started."
Mattingly and his staff have implemented bunt drills, cuts and relay throws, with balks and rundown work coming later this week. In describing the defensive drills he and his staff have run, Mattingly uttered one of my favorite quotes of the spring so far.
"Baseball defensively is almost like an orchestra," Mattingly said, which immediately made me think of Jungleland by Bruce Springsteen ("There's an opera out on the Turnpike / There's a ballet being fought out in the alley"). There is always somewhere for you to be as part of that play. You could be out there all year and never be involved, but you still have to be somewhere just in case."
With Mattingly and his staff in their second season, this spring has involved less classroom-type instruction than last year, giving the team more time to gel and get on the same page on the field.
Mattingly went on to say that the Dodgers ownership situation hasn't been as big a distraction that he thought it would be so far this spring, and that camp has smooth. It also helped that nearly all of the position players showed up early before Monday's reporting date.
Ted Lilly was specifically cited by Mattingly as someone who came to camp prepared, having thrown off a mound 10 times before showing up in Arizona. Mattingly said the club wanted Lilly to get off to a better start this year than last, and that a healthy winter will help Lilly pitch more like he did the final two months of the season (2.09 ERA over his last 11 starts wtih 64 strikeouts in 69 innings).
Notes
- The Dodgers held their annual open tryout on Thursday, and among the participants was Dodgers' clubhouse attendant Francisco Herrera, known to everyone as "Chico." Ramona Shelburne profiled Herrera for ESPN Los Angeles.
- Left-handed pitcher Doug Davis was also at the tryout. In his first four starts against the Dodgers, Davis allowed zero earned runs in 30 innings, with seven walks and 22 strikeouts. But in his last nine starts against Los Angeles, Davis has a 6.21 ERA in 42 innings, with 25 walks, 28 strikeouts, and eight home runs allowed.
- Minnesota Vikings safety Jarrad Page, who played both football and baseball at UCLA, also tried out at Camelback Ranch today.
- Mattingly again praised the virtues of shortstop Dee Gordon, calling him "the perfect fit" for the leadoff spot. Ken Gurnick profiled Gordon on Wednesday for MLB.com.
- The Dodgers' planned simulated game for Sunday, March 4 will be more like an intrasquad game in that there won't be batting cages or a cage in front of the mound. Mostly minor leaguers will participate in the game, which will have Clayton Kershaw throw two innings and likely be followed on the mound by Chris Capuano and Stephen Fife.
- A.J. Ellis is reading to kids at a nearby library in Glendale this afternoon as part of Read Across America.
- If you want to watch Tommy Lasorda give an impromptu boxing lesson to Josh Lindblom, today is your lucky day.
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It would be nice if the team played crisply instead of sloppy. I hate sloppy baseball.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Phil, refernce the MVP question in last thread
Was Gibson the last one in ’88 after coming over from Detroit?
In a year that has been so improbable, the impossible has happened
Of all the innings
nothing worse than a sloppy second
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by mleadman on Mar 1, 2012 2:28 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I believe Frank Robinson
and Dick Allen are the only two players who won MVPs the year after changing leagues.
As JB 8 mentione, Kirk Gibson says hello
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So two trades
One FA
Pujols and Fielder will try to even that up.
I would totally take the field.
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But they'll cancel each other
or as Nolij would say, reduce themselves
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I think Pujols has a better shot than Fielder by a lot IMO
Miggy will win it before Fielder.
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Cepeda almost counts, came over mid season in 66, won the award in 67
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I know the question is for MVPs, but for Cy Young Award winners, the last one was Halladay in 2010 in his first year with the Phillies.
1978 – Gaylord Perry from Rangers to Padres
I have no memory of that season
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J.P. Arencibia’s imitation of Tim Kurkjian, along with Kurkjian laughing while listening to it, was freaking hilarious.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 1, 2012 2:24 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Hilarious
and yeah he has to have a sense of humor to play along with that. Mostly.
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Cy Young Award
winners who changed leagues:
1974 Mike Marshall
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Today's diary entry
-Had two fish tacos and one shrimp taco at Del Taco
-Looking forward to Monday and Tuesday off so I can rock The Show 12 on PS3
I’d guess
bland, frozen, strangely textured shrimp
by Hollywood Joe on Mar 1, 2012 2:43 PM PST up reply actions
either mayo based and white or vinegar and red
by Hollywood Joe on Mar 1, 2012 2:47 PM PST up reply actions
in my office, looking at the afternoon sun on the Hollywood sign, seems like I have been gone forever
by Hollywood Joe on Mar 1, 2012 2:58 PM PST up reply actions
There was this sexy chick in line ahead of me (pretty tall) but she was too wrapped up in her order so I didn’t try to flirt with her.
The Del Taco cashier was much friendlier and I got a laugh/smile/eye contact when leaving.
So glad Facebook has failed to live upto your needs and that TBLA can full fill them for you.
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I will indulge this
as I got older and tied down i always started thinking it should be easy to get it in with the girl that works at the fast food place. Low pay, low self esteem, etc etc. especially if they appear to be in that 23-26yo range. I wish I had the opportunity to test this theory. You should do it for me.
SW walks up to the counter
points down and says “Are you gonna eat this?”
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by mleadman on Mar 1, 2012 2:54 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
EVEN BETTER - I figured this out too late
I think you are right
also look for single moms
They are tired, over worked, scared no man will want them because of the kid, and you know that they fuck
A little kindness and there you go
Just don’t be a dick and start playing house with the kid unless you mean it
by Hollywood Joe on Mar 1, 2012 3:00 PM PST up reply actions
I did not shoplift the pootie.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
I don’t know the origin of this phrase, but I like it
by Hollywood Joe on Mar 1, 2012 3:05 PM PST up reply actions
It’s from Jerry Maguire.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
ahhh – makes sense
Cuba Gooding Jr and I went to High School together. He worked at the Bob’s BigBoy in the northridge mall and hooked me up with free Burgers
that is a good and funny dude
by Hollywood Joe on Mar 1, 2012 3:07 PM PST up reply actions
A friend in high school (who didn't turn into celebrity)
worked at the local A&W. I’d go up there on Fridays and buy a root beer. I’d give him a buck, and he’d give me $10 change. We’d use that money for beer that night after the football game
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good times
I was an asst manager at a Domino’s Pizza. I hated the Pizza but traded it for donuts, hotdogs, beer, burgers…we had all these places that we’d call and make these barters
it was fun
by Hollywood Joe on Mar 1, 2012 3:13 PM PST up reply actions
Oh
yes, we all knew the places where we could buy 20 dollars of groceries for 3.50. (The days before scanning).
this is true
Though I am not sure I did it more than twice. I remember more the talent of how someone could punch in 20 cents so many times.
My greatest adventure
was a couple friends worked early morning at McDonalds. The day be fore we left for a week of spring break at Huntington Beach, we went into the McDonalds and stole a case of patties, racks of buns, pounds of sliced cheese and a gallon of ketchup. We were eating quintuple burgers all week.
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There were a few patties
left over in my ice chest at the end. I put the ice chest on the side of my mothers house and forgot about it for a month. It was quite a sight and smell when I finally opened it back up.
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we used to do that at the pizza place I worked out
usually we where too lazy to go outside our own center but bartering lives on
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
I had phone numbers and drivers
my bonus was tied to food and labor cost, as long as I managed both of those, I could give pies away without any illeffect on the biz or my paycheck
by Hollywood Joe on Mar 1, 2012 3:21 PM PST up reply actions
sure sure
but it was more effort to get on the phone to me then just walk a couple doors over and do it in person. Maybe not really more effort, but I like face to face interaction over phone interaction
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be a gentleman and pay for the sitter
there is a lady around 30yo that works at the El Pollo Loco drive thru by my work. she looks miserable but always has perfect makeup and hair and is about as attractive as you can be in that polo shirt and visor. she looks like she is dying for a good time.
“hey baby, why don’t we get you dolled up and lemme make you forget about chickens for a while”
I like it
by Hollywood Joe on Mar 1, 2012 3:05 PM PST up reply actions
That's known
as a Mildred Pierce
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by mleadman on Mar 1, 2012 3:12 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Also (and from experience)
no that you will never never never be number one, two or maybe three priority in their lives.
which can be a good thing or a bad thing depending on what you are looking for I suppose
by Hollywood Joe on Mar 1, 2012 3:04 PM PST up reply actions
you can take advantage of that but
you can’t take them for granted. But if you are looking for someone to be available at a moment’s notice, this is not for you.
Yeah, I’m curious why you seem to think that the hundreds of TBLA readers should be interested in your fast food chain restaurant choices and flirting successes and failures today. Sort of on the basis that everyone’s friends here and we’re all interested in this sort of stuff about everyone else here?
Me too
obviously
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This whole thread is offensive!
(takes notes)
by The Dude Abides on Mar 1, 2012 3:33 PM PST up reply actions
Excellent points and I can’t disagree with any of it. Delias said he was interested earlier so I obliged.
Trust me, it won’t be an everyday thing.
I enjoy it
you are unlike most humans I come across
vive la difference!
by Hollywood Joe on Mar 1, 2012 3:00 PM PST up reply actions
I'm currently trying to talk myself out of del taco for dinner
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
No you don’t, you just think you do
Love yourself Nono, we do
by Hollywood Joe on Mar 1, 2012 3:08 PM PST up reply actions
I was watching "Restaurant Impossible" last night
and they originally prepared Chicken Parmesan by heating a frozen breaded chicken breast in the microwave, put slices a cheese on top of it and then put a bland tomato sauce on it.
Robert Irvine was appalled.
Frozen prepared is not fit to be fed to beast
by Hollywood Joe on Mar 1, 2012 3:14 PM PST up reply actions
It was cool to see Irvine
take a fresh chicken breast, bread it, and deep fry it, while prepping cook pasta and sauce. He finished his dish faster than microwave version.
I am baking
my eggplant parm these days to great effect
by Hollywood Joe on Mar 1, 2012 3:18 PM PST up reply actions
FTFY
Love yourself Nono, we do sometimes
;-)
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just get it
it’s a good choice no matter what the snobs here think
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When I was lvdown's age
I did enjoy going to Naugles on occasion for their burritos, the only one that I recall going to was in Santa Ana.
I remember Naugles in the valley, thats what Del Taco’s were before they were Del Taco’s… I cant remember anything about it but the name. Did they change the name, or did Del Taco come from somewhere else and bought them all out?
Del Taco bought them out, IIRC.
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I vaguely remember the name
but I know I never ate at one
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A few of the Naugles menu items, such as those with the “Macho” designation, found their way into the regular Del Taco menu. Also, the Naugles Taco Sandwich (Del Taco called it a “bun taco”) can still be ordered from Del Taco even though it does not appear listed on the menu. For wiki… Weird, didnt know about this sandwich, weird how places have secret items like Inn and Out with the animal style and 4 × 4 etc
You’re our Woody Boyd.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
I'd like to take that as a compliment
though I’m not sure if it is, lol.
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It’s mostly a compliment :) Everyone likes Woody.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Except for the non-drinking part
HJ is Sam by a mile
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You’re more like Carla’s husband.
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
what are the new additions to the game?
If it’s just new rosters I’m not sure I’ll get it.
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If they ever fix the netcode
maybe we can get some sort of tbla league going
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what did you think?? I think the Baja shrimp taco is better then the regular one, but not bad, fish tacos arent that bad either, for Del Taco. Del Taco way outclasses Taco Bell.
Everyone seems to have missed 2004 Vlady
and as Dodger fans we should remove what should have been ours
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I'll bet
Tawny Kitaen hasn’t aged well
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second this intuition
and while I see why she is a pretty girl, not my cup of tea even at her peak
by Hollywood Joe on Mar 1, 2012 2:46 PM PST up reply actions
What is not to like about a long legged, amply breasted, red head, with fiery eyes?
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The amply crazed part
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From what I've heard
Her craziness got into the room 10 minutes before she did
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No,
hot models and baggage are highly correlated.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
If anyone on this board has bagged a stewardess my money is on HJ
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
How about
before they became one?
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Doesn’t count, has to be on a flight, makes eye contact, flirtatious behavior turns into a notch.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I have a story but will not write it here
For the record, I have not “bagged” one
in a somewhat related matter this AM, I flew first class from Ft. Lauderdale to LA, with a stop in Houston. The 1st class stew on my second leg looked delightfully like Naomi Watts
by Hollywood Joe on Mar 1, 2012 2:57 PM PST up reply actions
Whatever happens in Anaheim
Stays in Anaheim
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Oh I thought it had to be someone who won an MVP in both leagues
not just switched then won
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Nine Cy Young award winners this century
only four are still great
one is in limbo
four are retired
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
9 active cy young winners? Is that because guys like RJ and Clemens are retired?
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This made me think a bit too
it must be NL only and there were multiple winners like whatzhisname in SF.
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Makes sense
RJ
Clemens
Lincecum
Halladay
Kershaw
I’m blanking on the other NL Cy Young winners of the 2000s
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In conclusion what I thought might be unique is not unique for either the MVP or the Cy Young.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Games better start soon before someone kills someone
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Wilfredo Ledezma has some wonderful Trivia
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I haven’t seen your post, but I have a guess as to the trivia. I heard a relatively funny story about that last week, if it is in fact the case.
Maybe it is the batboy
Anthony Jackson
DeJon Watson wouldn’t tell me who, but working on signing ONE player from tryout camp. I suspect it’s Doug Davis. Will find out 2moro
Can we just sign the Doug Davis Post-Illness Strike Zone?
by Tim Crews' Dastardly Mustache on Mar 1, 2012 3:44 PM PST up reply actions
I’m going to guess Hiroki Salad, because, why not?
"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
Bleh. He's already Not Takashi Saito.
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I say again, oh come on! My other coworker saw that and went crazy laughing at it. The name was actually “pitterson”, but it got typoed.
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What might have been ever so slightly worth a titter, turns out to be nothing.
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One of my favorite bumper stickers
that I actually saw on a car was “Tits on a Ritz. Mmmmm, good cracker”
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Did you make the final cut?
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or people are broke and out of work, so fuck it why not.
You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.
the worst that happens is that you walk away with a good story
by Hollywood Joe on Mar 1, 2012 4:26 PM PST up reply actions
play your cards right and you may even luck into some beef looking to hook up with a player
by Hollywood Joe on Mar 1, 2012 4:44 PM PST up reply actions
if i were a different man, i would’ve made friends with the cleat chasers.
You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.
we like this guy better
easy to get stuck in that other place
by Hollywood Joe on Mar 1, 2012 4:48 PM PST up reply actions
i’ve often wondered how my life would be different if i had taken the opportunities, but i like this me better too.
You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.
i’d probably have had to learn to cook sooner to impress the ladies
You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.
not these gals
smart good ones like that gal you have yes, those other gals deliver for you
by Hollywood Joe on Mar 1, 2012 4:54 PM PST up reply actions
I have rarely regretted when I stopped myself from going too far
Now one man’s “too far”, could be another man’s “not enough”, but if you have the right sense of where that line is for you and you pay attention to that line, then you can usually have about as much fun and you should
I guess what I am saying, is that you better know you can stop eating chips or you better be prepared to eat the whole damn bag and face the consequences, before you open that bag of chips
by Hollywood Joe on Mar 1, 2012 4:54 PM PST up reply actions
wait what? How can you know if you like this me better if you never took the other opportunities? just sayin. You never know.
yes you do
there is plenty of times I hit the eject button just so I’d continue to like myself
by Hollywood Joe on Mar 1, 2012 4:57 PM PST up reply actions
well, i like this me, so i’m not sure if any other version would give me that satisfaction.
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Houston Bootleggers
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Mar 1, 2012 4:39 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Houston o'Bricks
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by underdog on Mar 1, 2012 6:06 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
What was the name of the Bailey home development in “It’s a Wonderful Life”?
by Hollywood Joe on Mar 1, 2012 4:43 PM PST up reply actions
Bailey Park?
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did you really just write [spoiler!] for a 65 year old movie?
you are pretty cool
by Hollywood Joe on Mar 1, 2012 4:51 PM PST up reply actions
I like the caricature Italian family dismissed as “garlic eaters” by Mr. Potter
Capra taking a shot at his own people
by Hollywood Joe on Mar 1, 2012 5:11 PM PST up reply actions
yeah – that bar scene in Potterville was hopping
by Hollywood Joe on Mar 1, 2012 5:14 PM PST up reply actions
We serve hard liquor to people who want to get drunk fast
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and where do you get off calling me Nick!
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Yeah
that is probably the best alternate universe scene in the movie. And really much better than the scene where George gets punched in the face at that same bar.
Sheldon Leonard (Nick the bartender) went on to produce such comedy staples as the “Dick Van Dyke Show”, “The Andy Griffith Show” and “The Danny Thomas Show”. You wouldn’t have guessed that from his rather humorless role in the movie!
Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent.
Leonard
was a radio performer and played one of the many gamblers in the film version of “Guys and Dolls.”
I couldn’t find it in his Wikipedia entry, but I sure seem to remember him doing gangster character voices in cartoons from the ’60s.
Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent.
Those could be Mel Blanc
Mel and Leonard knew each other from the Jack Benny show and I am sure Blanc could easily imitate Leonard. That said, I am not sure actors got a lot of those credits if they were guest stars.
I sat next to Leonard
at a Ram pre-season game. one of the great experiences of my life.
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Frank Capra was 49 when It’s A Wonderful Life was made and although he lived into his 90s, he directed only five films after that, the last in 1961. The stars of that last movie were Glenn Ford, Bette Davis and what must have been a young and lovely Hope Lange.
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Unfortunately, that is now young to me.
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Frequently, critics panned his work as “Capra-corn”, but I always enjoyed his movies!
Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent.
I am going to start a genre of sweet films from the west valley
can you guess the name?
by Hollywood Joe on Mar 1, 2012 5:29 PM PST up reply actions
At the time Boogie Nights was made, I actually lived near the neighborhood where they filmed several scenes: when he gets beaten up, the doughnut shop, when the limo picks up or drops off the random dude they get to do a gonzo scene with Rollergirl. All about 1/4 to 1/2 mile from me. The big religious mosaic they show is there too, that’s where we got married.
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Yep
Sherman Way, I think between White Oak and Reseda.
by The Dude Abides on Mar 2, 2012 12:53 AM PST up reply actions
New playoff format
So it turns out the #1 seed CAN play the wild card from its own division. That’s pretty cool.
it’ll be cool when the second wild card team chases down the first wild card team while playing other teams, then settling it on the field in a 1 game winner take all SAY THAT TO MY FACE type of game.
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I like winner takes it all
and ABBA still sucks
by Hollywood Joe on Mar 1, 2012 4:49 PM PST up reply actions
2012 NBA Regional Sports Networks viewers and ratings update
Top 5 NBA Teams by Household viewers
Team RSN Avg. no. of HHs
Los Angeles Lakers FS West 258,000
Chicago Bulls CSN Chicago 213,000
New York Knicks MSG 149,000
Miami Heat Sun Sports 103,000
Los Angeles Clippers Prime Ticket 102,000
The Lakers ratings are down 4% this year, the Clippers are up 137% (viewers, Clippers up 58K while the Lakers are down 14K).
The Clippers are now the second most popular team in terms of TV viewers with the Dodgers and Angels averaging under 70K households last year. The Lakers remain the top team by households and second only to the Phillies and Yankees as the most watched by household team in the U.S.
Reminder that ratings and viewers are important for advertisers but cable is a dual stream revenue producer so as long as people’s subscriptions contain the RSN, the RSN gets paid regardless if people watch the show or not.
Those 102,000 viewers would like the Clippers to start playing better starting tonight
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Reminder that ratings and viewers are important for advertisers but cable is a dual stream revenue producer so as long as people’s subscriptions contain the RSN, the RSN gets paid regardless if people watch the show or not.
The Dodgers and Angels do provide twice as much live content compared to the Lakers and Clippers. Not including post-season, though.
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realized today that the Time Warner RSN won’t launch until October with the new NBA season. As a result, the Galaxy are going to have their local broadcasts on KDOC for a season. I imagine they’ll be pushing quite hard for the Dodgers after the MLB season is over as well.
I was looking at the Galaxy roster, how much does Beckham and Donovan make that both of them, and all those other players can fit under a 2.81 million salary cap. Still unreal to me they have a salary cap under 3 mil.
under the designated player rule, the most a player can count against the salary budget is some $300k. For players like Beckham, Donovan, Keane, Henry, the rest of their salary comes from the owner’s pocket. It’s a convoluted system where since it’s a single entity league, it’s not a salary cap, teams are just only given so much money from the central pot. Anything extra has to come out of pocket.
Ill have to research this more, because this is some interesting stuff…. So owner can pay a player 30 mil for a season if he wants, but just 300K counts against cap? What I want to learn is it says Galaxy have 28 players, but only 18-20 count against cap. Who decides what players count against cap? Says depending on designation. How do players get designated? Oh yeah, I said I was going to do the search, oops.
Sorry I didn't see this right away, was doing the TBLA Fantasy League draft
You don’t become an owner in MLS, persay, you become an investor. The franchise fee has gone up over time, but you pay that fee and as a result you’re give a budget of $2.81 million. That comes from all the league revenue. You’re allowed three players, Designated Players, that you can pay their salary from the team’s revenue (ticket sales, corporate partners, local broadcast contract, etc).
Now only roster spots 1-20 come out of that budget. 21-30 are the reserve team, and they all make less than $45k a year. So collectively they only count for like $500k and that comes from a separate fund.
It’s complicated, but it keeps MLS afloat for now.
means David Young is required to take him #1 overall in 28 minutes
You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.
Wow.
I’m surprised, actually.
@TElciram
by Taylor Maricle on Mar 1, 2012 7:50 PM PST up reply actions
I can understand
CBS bidding on the Dodger broadcast rights, they already have the KCAL contract. But MSG? What?
I don't mean to sound ignorant
but when I see MSG, I think Madison Square Garden, and the article doesn’t tell me who MSG is otherwise.
You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.
but Luck had the same 40yd dash time and a better vertical than cam newton
You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.
no cam was a bit faster
and also 2 inches taller and 15-20 pounds heavier. Also probably more all around athletic, I’m sure he has a better 3 conetime(probably)
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Never gets old
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5hFKKTpRgs&feature=related
especially at the 0:30 mark
Every home run Kemp hit in 2011
You're not yet drunk if you can lay on the floor without holding on.
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