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Cool Guy Times Eight
has started doing a rundown of the top 200 Dodgers prospects using fanposts to post the countdown.
This is our Dodger top 30 in steroid mode. Coolguy_88888888 also did also did this last year, so take a look at his 200 from last year. This is quite a prodigious undertaking and I just want to thank him for taking the time to post his list this year on TBLA. It's members like this who help make our content richer then it would be if we only relied on the writers.
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DeJon Watson talks with TBLA
Josh Rawitch set up a Q&A session with Dodger Assistant GM, Player Development, DeJon Watson. For those unfamiliar with DeJon he's a local boy who starred in baseball and football at Santa Monica High School and was drafted in the 3rd round of the 1985 draft by the Royals. He never advanced above A ball and turned to a career in scouting. He quickly moved up the scouting ranks and was the Cincinnati Reds Director of Scouting when he did this interview. In October of 2006, Ned Colletti hired him away from the Indians and brought him back home. Just one year later he was promoted to Assistant GM, Player Development. A busy man he took a few minutes out of his time to talk with TBLA about the Dodger prospects. Below is a summary of that conversation. Originally I had 50 questions but was told to cut it down to 10-12. I'm sure many questions you or I had were cut and in retrospect I wish I had asked a few of my other questions then the one's I did ask.
I did not have a phone recorder so unless you see a quote, the answers I've written down are summaries
Ivan DeJesus lost a year to injury. Other then a brief appearance in Arizona we have not heard how he's doing. Has he made a full recovery without any loss in athletic skills and can we expect him to be playing winter ball in Puerto Rico? He's going to play winter ball in Puerto Rico, has a slight limp, still little trouble doing the turns, straight a head is fine, expectations are for him to be 100% by spring training. Little worried about the pounding his leg will take on the winter league astro turf.
Josh Lindblom started most of the time in AA but once promoted to AAA he pitched only in relief. Is the belief going forward that he's a bullpen guy instead of getting a shot in the rotation? He pitched in relief for the Isotopes just in case the Dodgers needed him in the bullpen. The expectation is that if he does not make the major league roster he will be pitching in the Isotope rotation.
Lucas May made some big strides with the bat this year, having a solid year in AA, World Cup, and the AFL. The one question many of us have is how is he progressing as a catcher? We have heard many a rumor that pitchers do not like pitching to him, has trouble with passed balls, and just does not appear to have the skills to be a major league catcher. Are these unfounded? Is he progressing as a catcher? Defense is improving, has made "drastic improvement" based on his play in the AFL. Was the main catcher for the World Cup team which won the World Cup.
Andrew Lambo had a pedestrian season in AA but is doing quite well in the AFL, where will he be playing in 2010? Still needs to prove himself in AA, very happy with his performance in the AFL as he's still one of the youngest players in the league but is one of the best hitters in the league.
Why did Kyle Russell spend the whole season with the Loons and how worried are you about the K's? - he stayed with the Loons all year because they liked the group of players they had there and wanted to keep them together as a unit for the complete season. Pitch recognition is his biggest problem and they hoped they made some big strides in the instructional league this Sept by adjusting his setup. They don't want to reduce his aggressiveness and realize that a hitter like that will strike out.
Tony Delmonico followed the Russ Martin, Carlos Santana, Lucas May playbook and was converted to a catcher. How did you and your scouts feel that worked out and is that going to stick? - Tony will stay at catcher and we felt he was making excellent progress when he was hurt and had to move from behind the plate.
Gerald Sands struggled in the MWL, was sent to Ogden where he destroyed the league playing CF, came back to the Loons and finished strong while playing 1st base. What position will he be playing in 2010 and do you see him making it to the California League? "blue collar kid" , "Brings it every game" , going forward he will play both 1st and the outfield, he has the foot speed to play the outfield but they are not ruling out 1st base.
Ethan Martin and Nate Eovaldi became an interesting tag team during the 2nd half; can you elaborate on the thinking behind using them in the same game in the 2nd half for about three innings each? Since Ethan was coming off the injury last year and Nathan had the history of the TJ, they wanted to keep the innings down so they put them together. Next year the gloves will come off and they will both be in the rotation.
Is Austin Gallagher a 1st baseman going forward and is his shoulder healthy? - Still looking at both sides of the diamond for Austin. His shoulder is coming along and he's making progress, taking dry swings at the moment. They love the bat and his internal desire.
Aaron Miller was dynamite for the Loons during the regular and post season. Are the Dodgers going to be aggressive with him and move him to AA to start the season? - To be determined this spring but he's impressed everyone in the organization with not only his stuff but his poise.
Allen Webster had a big year, was that the biggest surprise of the season or did your scouting staff know what you had? - When drafted he was throwing 88-90 but after making some adjustments to his pitching mechanics and natural physical maturation he was touching 95 this year. "added five feet to his fastball". Other players of note who he thought made big strides were Buddy DeLaRosa - "touching 98 - 99 " this summer after some tweaks to his mechanics. Carlos Frias big arm.
One of the Dodger prospects we traded away a few years ago was Chuck Tiffany. He then suffered an arm injury and wasn't able to come back with the Rays. This summer we signed him to a contract but I've never heard a word about his progress? Is he still with the organization? If so what are the expectations? - arm never bounced back, he was released at the end of the year
What happened to College World Series hero Clayton Allison? - shoulder surgery (would not reveal what kind), expected to be 100% by spring.
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TBLA Final Vote for the 15th best Prospect in the Dodger Organization
| 1 | Chat and Vote | Chris Withrow |
| 2 | Chat and Vote | Dee Gordon |
| 3 | Chat and Vote | Scott Elbert |
| 4 | Chat and Vote | Ivan DeJesus |
| 5 | Chat and Vote | Ethan Martin |
| 6 | Chat and Vote | Andrew Lambo |
| 7 | Aaron Miller | |
| 8 | Chat and Vote | Josh Lindlbom |
| 9 | Chat and vote | Trayvon Robinson |
| 10 | Chat and vote | Nathan Eovaldi |
| 11 | Xavier Paul | |
| 12 | Chat and vote | Garrett Gould |
| 13A | Allen Webster | |
| 13B | Kyle Russell | |
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Dead heat after two votes so they both get to call themselves the TBLA 13th best prospect. Final vote is now up for the 15th TBLA best Dodger prospect. I don't know how the rest of you vote but I do it on what the ceiling is and if I expect them to reach the ceiling. So for me Lucas May will be no more then a backup catcher, while Jonathan Garcia could be Adam Jones (a comparable for his age in the Arizona League) offensively or just another fast starting kid who is swallowed up by advanced pitching.
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Prospect Number 13 Run Off Vote
| 1 | Chat and Vote | Chris Withrow |
| 2 | Chat and Vote | Dee Gordon |
| 3 | Chat and Vote | Scott Elbert |
| 4 | Chat and Vote | Ivan DeJesus |
| 5 | Chat and Vote | Ethan Martin |
| 6 | Chat and Vote | Andrew Lambo |
| 7 | Aaron Miller | |
| 8 | Chat and Vote | Josh Lindlbom |
| 9 | Chat and vote | Trayvon Robinson |
| 10 | Chat and vote | Nathan Eovaldi |
| 11 | Xavier Paul | |
| 12 | Chat and vote | Garrett Gould |
| 13 | ||
| 14 | ||
| 15 | ||
Dead Heat between Webster and Russell with Lucas May getting some surprising support.
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Los Angeles Dodgers Number Thirteen 2010 Top Prospect - Chat & Vote
1 Chat and Vote - Chris Withrow
2 Chat and Vote - Dee Gordon
3 Chat and Vote - Scott Elbert
4 Chat and Vote - Ivan DeJesus
5.Chat and Vote - Ethan Martin
6.Chat and Vote - Andrew Lambo
7. Aaron Miller
8. Chat and Vote - Josh Lindlbom
9. Chat and vote - Trayvon Robinson
10. Chat and vote - Nathan Eovaldi
11. Xavier Paul
12. Chat and Vote Garrett Gould
Garret Gould wins the vote for number 12 quite easily and is now the youngest player on the list. Seven out of twelve are pitchers. I've add a plethora of names to the poll as we head into the strech for the top 15.
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Los Angeles Dodgers Number Twelve 2010 Top Prospect - Chat & Vote
1 Chat and Vote - Chris Withrow
2 Chat and Vote - Dee Gordon
3 Chat and Vote - Scott Elbert
4 Chat and Vote - Ivan DeJesus
5.Chat and Vote - Ethan Martin
6.Chat and Vote - Andrew Lambo
7. Aaron Miller
8. Chat and Vote - Josh Lindlbom
9. Chat and vote - Trayvon Robinson
10. Chat and vote - Nathan Eovaldi
11. Xavier Paul
It took two different votes but Nathan Eovaldi holds off Xavier Paul to win the coveted TBLA 10 spot. A near dead heat in the first vote resulted in a run off vote that was close for most of the day, but the late afternoon/evening crowd pushed Eovaldi into the lead by 18 votes.
Now this may ruffle some feathers but I'm not putting Paul back out there. He got enough support for the 10 spot that I'm putting him in at 11. I don't agree with it but the voters have given him plenty of support. The vote is on for 12 and I'm adding the youngest player in the organization.
We all have our reasons for who and why we vote for someone. For me the next three spots are between the teen-agers. The high bonus golden arm of Garrett Gould or the promise of Jonathan Garcia or the unexpected brilliance of Allen Webster.
Fricking crazy that I'm talking about three guys who were born after 1990.
Anybody else you would like to have the voters have a crack at? Lucas May, Jamie Hoffman, Brent Leach, Francisco Felix, Travis Schlichting, Justin Sellers, Javy Guerra, Pedro Baez, Steven Caseres, Jamie Ortiz, Tim Sexton, Kenley Jansen, Tony Delmonico, Jamie Pedroza, Gerald Sands, Geison Aguasviva, Jon Michael Redding , Allen St. Clair, Brian Cavazos-Galvez, Gorman Erickson, Franklin Jacobs, Mario Songco, Brett Wallach, Jonathan Garcia, Danny Danielson, Roberto Feliciano.
| Prospect Information |
| DOB | Prospect Name | Drafted | Info |
| 7/19/1991 | Garrett Gould | 2009 No 2 | Gould only pitched in three games for Ogden so any support for him will have to come from what he did in high school. From the baseball factory:
Gould is a big, strong RHP who is aggressive with his fastball that pushes into the low 90s. There is some deception to his high effort delivery and a curve ball with bite and change with fade round out his repetoireThis is what Kensai has to say about him |
| 2/10/1990 | Allen Webster | No 18 2008 | Where did he come from? Just an 18th round pick in 2008, Webster was ranked by BA as the 3rd best prospect in the Arizona League, where this 19 year old turned some heads. From BA
No AZL player boosted his prospect stock this season as much as Webster, who's listed in the MLB database by his first name (Carl) but prefers to go by his middle name. An 18th-round pick in 2008, he walked 17 batters in 18 innings during his first pro season in the Rookie-level Gulf Coast League. After moving to Arizona when the Dodgers shifted their complex-based affiliate, he posted a 56-14 K-BB ratio in 48 innings before continuing to excel following a promotion to the Rookie-level Pioneer League. Though Webster still is growing into his 6-foot-2, 165-pound frame, he already has a fastball that reaches 94-95 mph. He throws strikes with his heater, as well as with a plus breaking ball and a promising changeup that he needs to use more often. Dodgers pitching instructor George Culver said an improved delivery was the key to Webster's big step forward. "He had a lot of issues with it last year. He was a green pea," said Culver. "His mechanics right now are as good as you want to see with a kid with no more pitching experience than he's had. |
| 7/24/1986 | Scott Van Slyke | 2005 No 14 | Great bloodlines looked to be naught until this year. The Dodgers were aggressive in promoting Van Slyke year after year even though he stunk at each level. In 2008 he had an OPS of .638 when he was inexplicably promoted from the A ball to A+ ball. In 2009 he spent the full season in A+ ball and his his first taste of success. He swatted 69 XBH and ended the season with a .907 OPS. He was not recognized by BA as a top prospect in the league as everyone is curious if he will continue to hit once he leaves the easier offensive setting of the Cal League. This one is for Canuck, I'm not much of a fan but if Canuck wants to make an argument for him, I'd be willing to listen. |
| 6/27/1986 | Kyle Russell | 2008 No 3 | The Good - CO-MVP of the MWL, led the league in Home Runs with 26, Total Bases with 262, RBI's with 102, 3rd in OPS at .916, 6th in Walks with 72, did not hit into one DP, Stole 20 bases and was only caught twice. Considered an excellent outfielder who has the arm for right field. That looks like one hell of an outfielder doesn't it. To bad about the negatives, one he can't control and the other he's unable to. He's 23 which is old for the MWL. The other is that his K Rate is a killer. He struck out 180 times in 563 plate appearances at the age of 23 in A ball. I want to believe in Kyle Russell but the reality is that this may have been his best season. When looking at other 23 year olds who dominated the MWL over the last five years, no one has been able to keep it going. I can't find any comp's for someone who strikes out at that rate, at that age, at that level who was successful. Russell Branyan did it but he was 20 years old when he did it. So even without the K rate he's going to have a tough time ever bringing that power to Dodger Stadium. |
| 11/11/1991 | Jonathan Garcia | 2009 8th round | Garcia played all summer as a 17 year old in the Arizona Rookie League. Among the regulars his OPS was only bettered by 21 year old Nick Akins. Easily the youngest player in the organization he was able to post a solid .862 OPS and was honored by BA as the 9th best prospect in the league. They had this to say about him :
The Dodgers may have gotten a steal when they selected Garcia out of Puerto Rico in the eighth round of the 2009 draft. He had a reputation in high school as a player who was better in workouts than in games, but that wasn't the case in the AZL. He hit .304 with 16 doubles in 138 at-bats. Garcia, 17, is very aggressive at the plate and the ball jumps off his bat. He has power to all fields and is expected to get stronger. He worked closely with hitting coach Leo Garcia and continually made adjustments during games. |
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Los Angeles Dodgers Number Nine 2010 Top Prospect - Chat & Vote
1 Chat and Vote - Chris WIthrow
2 Chat and Vote - Dee Gordon
3 Chat and Vote - Scott Elbert
4 Chat and Vote - Ivan DeJesus
5.Chat and Vote - Ethan Martin
6.Chat and Vote - Andrew Lambo
7. Aaron Miller
8. Chat and Vote - Josh Lindlbom
It was close between Lindblom and Trayvon until the afternoon when Josh just blew him away using his killer repertoire
Lindblom touched 96 mph as a college reliever, and he still pitched with plus velocity (89-94) as a pro starter, with plenty of heavy life on his fastball. His heater bores in on righthanders, his slider has lateral tilt and his splitter is a swing-and-miss pitch. He has a durable body, clean delivery and good mound presence..
If the voters go down the same path as the last vote this next poll is really between Xavier Paul and Trayvon Robinson as we decide which one of these center fielders has the better future. Both of these players are similar in some aspects.
1. Both play center field
2. Both have some power but neither will ever be considered home run hitters.
3. Both strike out much more then they should given their lack of power. At least when Kyle Russell makes contact you know the ball is going big fly.
4. Paul put up huge numbers in AAA but a closer look shows he did most of his damage at home in one of the best offensive parks in baseball. Robinson put up big numbers in the offensive California League. Paul couldn't break an OPS of .800 while in the Southern League joining Lambo in that futility.
5. They both need work on their stolen base game. Robinson has been caught 46 times in 149 attempts which won't get it done if he wants to have value as a basestealer. Eric reported for what it is worth that Trayvon is considered by 66er fans to be one of the worse baserunners on the team. Paul isn't much better as he's been caught 48 times in 134 attempts.
To be honest I'm not sure why Paul got so much traction in the last vote. In the best possible scenario he could become Shane Victorino but I think he has a very small chance of that happening. The reality is that Paul is probably going to become at best a platoon outfielder who never holds a regular job on a good team. We don't know yet what Robinson will do with the two 1/2 years he has on Paul. I'd rather hedge my bet on what we don't know then what we do know. Some have seen Paul's excellent numbers in AAA but as Eric showed in the chat, the MLE's for that kind of production are tepid. I don't want to make it seem like I don't like Paul, I do, I think in 2010 he'd make an excellent fourth outfielder for the team because he can play all three outfield positions, can give us a solid pinch hitter against RHP, can pinch run. But this team is probably in trouble if Xavier Paul is playing LF with any regularity.
I'd welcome any arguments for anyone on this list. If you think someone should be winning this poll just don't call the vote a sham. Put together a cohesive argument on why you think so because otherwise it is irritating to read someone say "this is ridiculous, blah blah is clearly the better player" without any arguments to back it. I spend a good amount of time writing this stuff up and a three second comment bashing the voting is just irritating. If you don't like the way a vote is going, give reasons why you think the voters are wrong.
Kyle Russell was talked about quite a bit in the last chat and vote. I personally like Kyle Russell very much because the Dodgers have no one close to him when it comes to power. He may have more power then anyone has had since Billy Ashley was in the system but those of us who remember, know what happened to Billy Ashley. The difference and I hope this is the difference between failure and success is that Kyle Russell is an excellent athlete. That said I'm not putting him on the ballot until after this next vote. I'm a bit amazed that our system got so deep that Gould/Eovaldi/Webster are looking at the outside of the top ten.
| Prospect Information |
| DOB | Prospect Name | Drafted | Info |
| 7/19/1991 | Garrett Gould | 2009 No 2 | Gould only pitched in three games for Ogden so any support for him will have to come from what he did in high school. From the baseball factory:
Gould is a big, strong RHP who is aggressive with his fastball that pushes into the low 90s. There is some deception to his high effort delivery and a curve ball with bite and change with fade round out his repetoireThis is what Kensai has to say about him |
| 2/13/1990 | Nathan Eovaldi | 2008 No 11 | Nathan was supposed to be a sleeper pick headed into this season but anyone who payed attention knew about his big arm. He had a few stretches this year where he was the best pitcher for the Loons and just like Miller, he was never allowed to throw more then three innings after Aug 1st. He had a rough April, settled down in May and then went the exact opposite of Martin with a stunning June in which he allowed only two earned runs in five starts. His numbers in Aug were dreadful as the K/PA fell to 14% while the BB/PA increased to 15% after being below 9% the previous three months. He's already had TJ surgery, will his arm hold up over a full professional season? Given how few innings he pitched in 2009 the fall off in August has to be a little concerning. |
| 2/25/1985 |
Xavier Paul | Paul has climbed every step of the minor league ladder and finally made it to the big leagues in May only to be felled by a nasty infection that basically ended his season. In April he destroyed AAA which got him called up upto the Dodgers. Bad luck found him and instead of backing up Juan Pierre during the Manny suspension he was in the hospital fighting a nasty infection. By the time he was healthy it was Sept so other then a few rehab at bats for the Isotopes his season was done. If he's centerfielder then he might be able to produce something along the levels of Shane Victorino, if he's only a corner then being a platoon outfielder is probably his future |
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| 2/10/1990 | Allen Webster | No 18 2008 | Where did he come from? Just an 18th round pick in 2008, Webster was ranked by BA as the 3rd best prospect in the Arizona League, where this 19 year old turned some heads. From BA
No AZL player boosted his prospect stock this season as much as Webster, who's listed in the MLB database by his first name (Carl) but prefers to go by his middle name. An 18th-round pick in 2008, he walked 17 batters in 18 innings during his first pro season in the Rookie-level Gulf Coast League. After moving to Arizona when the Dodgers shifted their complex-based affiliate, he posted a 56-14 K-BB ratio in 48 innings before continuing to excel following a promotion to the Rookie-level Pioneer League. Though Webster still is growing into his 6-foot-2, 165-pound frame, he already has a fastball that reaches 94-95 mph. He throws strikes with his heater, as well as with a plus breaking ball and a promising changeup that he needs to use more often. Dodgers pitching instructor George Culver said an improved delivery was the key to Webster's big step forward. "He had a lot of issues with it last year. He was a green pea," said Culver. "His mechanics right now are as good as you want to see with a kid with no more pitching experience than he's had. |
| 9/1/1987 | Trayvon, Robinson | 2005 No 10 | No one made a bigger move up the prospect ladder then Trayvon Robinson who came into the year with a reputation as a slap hitter with great speed who struck out to much and had little plate discipline. He ended the 2009 campaign as the starting CF for the AA Lookouts after torching the California League, showing large not subtle improvement in his power and plate discipline. |
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Prospect Number Five Runoff
After a heated battle Aaron Miller, Andrew Lambo, and Ethan Martin were just about dead even. This next vote will only take place in the comments and will run until 09:00 AM tomorrow. Only vote for one of the three, you may use initials if you choose.
AM = Aaron Miller
AL = Andrew Lambo
EM = Ethan Martin
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