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Is Daisuke Matsuzaka Worth It?

Peter Gammons is reporting that the Red Sox won the negotatiating rights for Japanese phenom Daisuke Matsuzaka for the princely sum of 42 million dollars. If you make the very generous assumption that Matsuzaka will sign a relatively small contract, say five years, 60 million, the Red Sox will be paying Matsuzaka a little more than 20 million dollars a year. Could this possibly be worth it?

Matsuzaka is the 11th pitcher, the fourth starter, to make the transition from the NPB to Major League Basebal. Of these pitchers, only three, Hideo Nomo, Akinori Otsuka and arguably Kazuhiro Sasaki had any kind of sustainted success while Shigetoshi Hasegawa was a functional middle reliever.  The remianing pitchers either disappeared after one good year, or never found any success to begin with. Sure, Matzuka is a completly different person, but the fact that no Japanese pitcher has ever had more than three consecutive successful years has to count against Matsuzaka.

Of course, no Japanese pitcher coming to America has done what Matsuzaka has done. In 186 and 1/3 innings, Matsuzaka had a strike out rate of 9.66 per nine with a 5.88 K/BB ratio while only surrendering Given that we're only working with a
sample size of 10 pitchers, it's impossible to pin down an actual comparable pitcher. The two that come closest are Nomo and Otsuka, but Nomo had a far higher walk rate while Otsuka is a releiver and six years older. Since Japanese pitchers tend to have their strikeout rates either stay constant or increase when moving to the MLB, while their walk and home run rates increase, I would expect Matsuzaka to put up ace type numbers in his first season, but nome anywhere near Johan Santana for the title of best pitcher in baseball. Of course, the one pitcher who didn't see their walk and strikeout rates collapse, Hideo Nomo, is also the only pitcher that was the same age as Matsuzaka when he came to America. However, even with Nomo's improvements he made, he had six years of mediocrity or worse after 1996, and I don't think that's what the Red Sox are paying for.

Ultimately, the Red Sox are asking Matsuzaka to do something that no other Japanese pitcher has done. Even if he pitches like his numbers suggest he should, he meeds to have a longevity that hasn't been found in Japanese pitchers. The massive pitch counts he's piled up through the years certainly don't help in this regard. If we assume that Matsuzaka has only a couple dominant years in him, then whether or not this is a good signing depends on if the Red Sox win a championship in the next couple years. If Matsuzaka leads them to the pennant, he's priceless for all intents and purposes. If he doesn't, the Red Sox are not going to be happy shelling out 20 million or so for a mediocre pitcher in 2010.

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Isn't Matsuzaka an outright free agent next year?  It seems like the Red Sox think he's worth 50 million plus whatever salary they'll give him.  So, if he waited a year he could likely sign the same contract plus pocket the posting fee.  I can't imagine how they could reach a deal if all that is true.

by dan310 on Nov 15, 2006 7:51 PM PST reply actions  

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Essentially, the advantage you get when winning the posting bid is that the player essentially has to sign with you if he wants to play in the majors that year, and Matsuzaka essentially has to give in to some extent to the Red Sox in terms of years and dollars unless he feels it would be more worth it to go back to Seibu to play in '07, which is why the Red Sox can't lowball him.  Matsuzaka couldn't pocket the posting fee because the fee goes to his Japanese team, the Seibu Lions, and not him.  The reason why the Red Sox will probably make sure that a deal gets done is because I read that Matsuzaka's preference is the Yankees, and he very well could sign with them if allowed to become a free agent.

by Rich @ True Blue LA on Nov 18, 2006 12:29 PM PST reply actions  

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I understand that Seibu gets the posting fee if Matsuzaka signs with the Red Sox now, and that they are his only option this year.  But, if he stays with Seibu for a year, I think he is a free agent next year.  That means there would be no posting fee, and Matsuzaka could sign with anyone.  So, if the Red Sox think he's worth, say, 100 million over five years this year, (50 in posting fee, 50 in salary) he only gets half.  But if they, or anybody else, think he's worth that much next year, he gets it all.  He basically gets 50 million minus whatever his Red Sox salary would be this year for not signing this year.  That seems like way too much to give up, even if it does keep him out of MLB for a year.  Of course, there is a risk of injury and whatnot, but I would guess that Boras at least would feel comfortable with that risk, and Boras is usually pretty influential.  Maybe other concerns will take precedent, but because of the money that Seibu is skimming off the top, I don't see how any contract can make economic sense for both sides.  

by dan310 on Nov 18, 2006 3:03 PM PST up reply actions  

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I'm not vell versed on the posting rules, so I can't give you a definitive answer. What you say does make sense.

by Andrew on Nov 18, 2006 5:10 PM PST up reply actions  

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The difference I think is that nobody would give a 100 million dollar contract to Matsuzaka because I'm pretty sure that the posting fee doesn't count against your salary cap, which then means that it doesn't raise your luxury tax, while his salary would count.  I think that might be the only thing.  Therefore, teams who have a lot of money but don't want to pay more luxury tax might be more apt to go through the posting system.  However, I do think you're right that if Matsuzaka was a free agent next year, he'd probably get more money in his contract since teams would probably give him some of that posting fee.

by Rich @ True Blue LA on Nov 19, 2006 12:13 PM PST reply actions  

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