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Where We Stand, Part One: Position Players

The Lineup

Very, shall we say, interesting batting order from Gurnick's last mailbag. The numbers on the right are the 2007 ZIPS projections.

CF Juan Pierre* (.299/.342/.385, 3 HR)
C Russell Martin (.279/.359/.432, 14 HR)
SS Rafael Furcal (.286/.358/.431, 13 HR)
2B Jeff Kent (.272/.352/.473, 18 HR)
1B Nomar Garciaparra (.288/.354/.469, 14 HR)
LF Luis Gonzalez (.248/.342/.412, 14 HR)
3B Wilson Betemit (.262/.328/.451, 15 HR)
RF Andre Ethier  (.296/.366/.463, 16 HR)
*Projection with the Cubs, I'd expect a slight drop with the Dodgers

These predictions largely match up with my own. I think Nomar would have a slightly better slugging percentage and Ethier will be a little worse, but it averages out in the end. Overall, this looks like an average at best lineup. One of the reasons my offseason plan stayed unreleased was that I had a heart of the order consisting of Pat Burrell, Jeff Kent, and Craig Wilson. Since I thought this was a terrible middle of the lineup, I scrapped the plan. This lineup is much worse. It lacks any real source of power, and while no one but Betemit has a noticeably low on base percentage, Ethier is the only starter that is projected to have an on base percentage greater than .360. In 2006, Betemit was the only starter with an on base percentage below .360. What this means is the average Dodger starter is taking a 32 point hit in OPS, from .288/.362/.459 in 2006 to .279/.350/.439 in 2007.

A 32 point drop in OPS doesn't seem that huge, but by just glancing through team stats, it results in 50-100 fewer runs over the course of the season. The other sign of trouble could be the Dodgers OPSing 43 points higher with runners in scoring position in 2006, if the Dodgers lose their propensity for clutch hits, it would result in even fewer runs scored.

If these projections hold, and the Dodgers average in clutch situations evens out, the team will score around 700 to 750 runs in 2007. This would put them between 21st and 28th in runs scored according to 2006 numbers.

Fortunately, the Dodgers have their trump card, the farm system. On most teams, if a starter goes down, the team will get worse. Not true with the Dodgers. With the exception of Russell Martin, any Dodger that gets hurt will be immediately replaced by someone nearly as good, if not better. The only way that Ramon Martinez or Marlon Anderson ever gets a start is through a 2005esque series of injuries. The Dodgers projected runs look pretty awful, but they can only get better.

Defense

Scary. Very scary. While booting Kenny Lofton for Juan Pierre provides a boost to the outfield, exchanging JD Drew for Luis Gonzalez cancels it out. While the Dodger outfield is probably just below average defensively, Christina Kahrl from Baseball Prospectus wonders if this is the worst collection of outfield arms ever assembled. While the difference between the best and worst outfield arms in 2006 resulted in runners taking an extra base 12.4% more often, I'm not sure exactly what kind of effect this has on the bottom line. Still, you never want the phrase "worst ever" associated with any aspect of your team.

The right side of the infield isn't anything great either. Nomar's rated all over the map on defensive stats. So, I'll just call him above average. Jeff Kent, however, could be a problem. While rate2 loved him last year, Kent was only ahead of Jorge Cantu in zone rating, and he was 5th to last amongst regular second basemen in probabilistic model of range.

While I'm losing my faith in rate2 as a good measure of defense, it still measures the most important thing for a fielder, how many balls they actually stopped. Think of it like ERA. It's not the best measure of determining how good a pitcher really is, but in the end, it's all that really matters. If Jeff Kent was actually very effective at stopping balls last season despite limited range, things could get scary if he goes down to the level his other stats indicate. However, this is probably balanced out by Nomar's low rate2 and his better play-by-play stats.

The left side of the infield is the only part of the defense I'm comfortable with. Rafael Furcal rates average to above average in all defensive metrics and Wilson Betemit also appears to be solid.

The Dodgers weren't very effective at getting to balls in play in 2006, and it doesn't appear that they'll get any better in 2007

The Bench

Olmedo Saenz (.268/.339/.483)
Marlon Anderson (.273/.328/.441)
Jason Repko (.254/.305/.434)
Ramon Martinez (.259/.322/.331)
Mike Lieberthal (No Projection)

The Dodgers bench is less relevant than most since none of the Dodgers reserves will ever be forced into starting. Overall, there's not much wrong with it. Olmedo Saenz is one of the best lefty mashers in baseball, has the highest projected slugging percentage on the Dodgers, and hopefully he'll platoon with Wilson Betemit since Nomar is also right handed.

Jason Repko can pinch run, sort of play all three outfield positions, and hit the occasional homer.

Mike Lieberthal is a very good hitter for a backup catcher, though his inability to stay healthy over the last few years is a concern if Russell Martin is lost for any long period of time.

Ramon Martinez is pretty terrible, but he shouldn't ever play except as a defensive replacement so it's irrelevant.

The only issue I have is the lack of lefties off the bench. Marlon Anderson has only OPSed over .720 once since 2001, and that was due to his miracle September last year. ZIPS projects good things, but I have no idea where those numbers are coming from. I would have liked to see Craig Counsell instead of Ramon Martinez just to give the Dodgers some options. James Loney would fill the void nicely, but right now he looks like the odd man out. Oh well, can't win `em all. Overall, I like what I see here, especially considering the limited roles of these players.

Tune in next time for the far more positive review of the Dodger pitching staff

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roster construction
Don't you think they're going to keep 14 position players? One of Grady's good qualities seems to be sanity on the # of pitchers he needs. Loney would stay on the team with 14 position players.

by Alfredo Griffin on Dec 21, 2006 12:29 PM PST   0 recs

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I had the Dodgers at 14 position players until we resigned Beimel. Right now the Dodgers have 10 pitchers signed to actual contracts, plus Billingsley and Kuo, who I can't see starting in the minors. That leaves room for only 13 position players, and Loney seems the most likely to go.

by Andrew on Dec 21, 2006 12:42 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

our horrible outfield
My other comment is: do we now have the worst starting outfield in the division?

LA: Gonzo-Pierre-Ethier

AZ: Byrnes-Young-Quentin

SD: ?-Cameron-Giles

SF: Bonds-Roberts-Winn

Col: Holliday-Taveras-Hawpe

Well, maybe the competition is not that steep, but the Dodger outfield is still putrid. Hopefully, Loney and an inspired Matt Kemp see plenty of time.

by Alfredo Griffin on Dec 21, 2006 2:46 PM PST   0 recs

Re
I think we're better off than San Francisco, but not by much. Matt Kemp is our savior.

by Andrew on Dec 21, 2006 3:18 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Many solid Assesments
I agree with a lot of those assertions.  Our OF arms will be sooooo sad.  Russ better keep that D up.

However the fact that Nomar will experience a decline in EVERY offensive category from injury-plagued #s is ridiculous.

I think if our young players regress, Kent continues to slump, and Nomar & Gonzo turn to crap ... well yeah our offense is going to NOT be good.

However I could see at least a repeat of last year's #s from Nomar, I could see Kent coming in somewhere between 05 & 06, and significant contributions from some combination of Loney/Kemp/Ethier/Martin/Repko/Betemit/LaRoche ...

And this is before you factor in a large increase in pitching.

by ngross on Dec 21, 2006 3:05 PM PST   0 recs

Nomar
In the ZIPs projection link, there's a good discussion over Nomar's numbers. The main reasons given for his decline are that he's 33, players tend to decline around here, and his decline in speed. While overall numbers aren't important, losing speed tends to correlate with a drop in overall numbers.

Dan Syzmborski, the creator of these projections explains this far better than I can.

by Andrew on Dec 21, 2006 3:14 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Injury-plagued
Is there some reason he won't continue to miss a lot of time (and be a good candidate for more injury-plagued numbers) due to more injuries? Last year wasn't as bad as the ones preceding it, but he spent his share of time on the DL.

by Andrew Shimmin on Dec 21, 2006 4:21 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

more injuries?
Same comment goes for JD Drew, who would have been here at the COST of Nomar.

Paper arguments are reaching a frenzy ...

I can't wait to get this squad playing.

by ngross on Dec 21, 2006 4:54 PM PST   0 recs

I don't understand
why Drew's returning would have meant the loss of Nomar. I can see where it could have cost the opportunity to give Juan Pierre tons of money. I don't see what Drew has to do with anything, actually, since we're comparing what actually did happen, last year, to projections of what might, this year. Whether Drew gets hurt this year is of interest to him, and to Sox fans, but not to how many runs the 2007 Dodgers will score.

by Andrew Shimmin on Dec 21, 2006 9:58 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Stan Conte
I have a funny feeling that the acquisition of Stan Conte may have a very positive effect on some of the older players, particularly Kent. I think that Johnston and Conte together should provide some well needed treatment and input that the former trainer was unable to provide, hence the large number of nagging injuries that took a long time to heal.

I think this should help both offensively and defensively.

Dodger Tony

by Dodger Tony on Dec 22, 2006 2:10 PM PST   0 recs

this lineup is worse than your projected lineup???
with PAt Burrell and Craig Wilson-are you out of your mind? Those two guys should be 4th outfielders!!! Wilson and Burrell strikeout at an alarming rate. Wilson couldn't crack the Pirates lineup and you had him starting in the LA lineup....and YOU have the nerve to criticize Colletti-WOW!!! How long have you been covering the Dodgers??

by rayg on Dec 22, 2006 3:33 PM PST   0 recs

Re
Burrell had an .890 OPS last year. Wilson didn't play because the Pirates had no clue what they were doing.

Why is a strikeout worse than a regular out? Yes, you lose the productive out, but you also lose the ability to ground into a double play. The end result is about the same.

by Andrew on Dec 22, 2006 5:30 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

.890 ops and JimTracy
So now you are a better mgr than Jim Tracy and Burrell's .890 OPS is decent at face value, and he walks alot, but he might be one of the worst baserunners in the league. He also might lead the league is watching called 3rd strikes...he is amazingly good at it too....seriously.

by rayg on Dec 22, 2006 6:01 PM PST   0 recs

lol
jim tracy is a horrible manager.

by npurcell on Dec 22, 2006 6:18 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

tracy
correct me if I'm wrong, but he was not the beneficiary of free agent spending that Little is receiving as a mgr? tracy did well with the talent he was given.....give me a break.

by rayg on Dec 22, 2006 8:01 PM PST   0 recs

How many
years have you been covering the Dodgers?

by Andrew Shimmin on Dec 22, 2006 8:54 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

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