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Nick Piecoro of azcentral.com takes a look at this years projected standings from the Chone projection system, and points out that the Diamondbacks are the clear favorites heading into this year. While this seemed ludicrous at first, after looking through the actual numbers that Chone projects, it makes a lot of sense. How much better are the projected 2008 Dodgers versus the projected 2007 Dodgers? While the 2007 CHONE projections seem to be gone, look at the 2007 ZIPS numbers for a decent idea for an idea of what we thought we had heading into last year.

POS
2007 ZIPS
2008 Chone Diff(OPS)
C Russell Martin .279/.359/.432 Russell Martin .282/.376/.438 .023
1B Nomar Garciaparra .288/.354/.469 James Loney .284/.347/.431 -.045
2B Jeff Kent .272/.352/.473 Jeff Kent .273/.356/.452 -.017
3B Wilson Betemit .262/.328/.451 Andy LaRoche .268/.356/.455 .022
SS Rafael Furcal .286/.358/.431 Rafael Furcal .277/.348/.394 .047
LF Luis Gonzalez .244/.326/.384 Juan Pierre .288/.333/.363 .014
CF Juan Pierre .299/.342/.385 Andruw Jones .249/.345/.491 .109
RF Andre Ethier .296/.366/.463 Matt Kemp .289/.337/.467 .025






SP1 Brad Penny 3.95 Brad Penny 4.11 .160
SP2 Derek Lowe 3.83 Derek Lowe 3.83 .000
SP3 Jason Schmidt 3.94 Chad Billingsley 3.92 -.020
SP4 Chad Billingsley 4.38 Hiroki Kuroda 3.78 -.600
SP5 Brett Tomko 4.47 Jason Schmidt 4.23 -.240

That 2007 team projected for 85.6 wins. Now looking at those two teams side by side, are the 2008 projected Dodgers much better? Not really. Having Nomar and Schmidt not be useless makes that team a heck of a lot better than what really happened. Since I had a generally sour outlook on the team last year, and projections tended to agree with me, it does make sense that a team that projects to be pretty similar should also project to be a team with wins in the mid 80s.

The difference between a team that I pretty much hated coming into the year last year and this one is I feel like a lot of the team this year can beat those projections. Loney and Kemp have a ton of upside and can easily contribute more. Rafael Furcal can bounce back from his absolutely horrendous year last year and beat that. In 2007, there was no one on the list that I thought had any real hope of beating their projection.

If no one has any kind of stellar breakout performance, then yes, this team will win about 85 games and probably get crushed by the Diamondbacks. However, with almost everyone on the team except for Kent (who can easily fall off the table) and Kuroda (who I think gets way overrated here) projected very conservatively, this team has a lot of room to improve on those 84 wins. There's a ton of variance in this team's possible performance, but 84 wins is very close to the low end of this team's potential. Despite what this system says, the Dodgers and the Diamondbacks should be neck and neck all year.

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Just to be picky
Why not use 2008 ZIPS?  It's important to be consistent.  You should concetrate on your consistency.

by StolenMonkey86 on Jan 17, 2008 10:04 AM PST reply actions  

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Call me, it's Friday.  310-570-5172 (erase this after please)

by wiffle ball legend on Jan 18, 2008 7:00 PM PST reply actions  

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2012 Dodgers Payroll

Italics denote estimates
Pos No Player 2012 Salary
C 17 Ellis $500,000 team control
1B 7 Loney $6,375,000
2B 14 Ellis $2,500,000
3B 5 Uribe $8,000,000
SS 9 Gordon $485,000 team control
LF 21 Rivera $4,000,000
CF 27 Kemp $10,000,000
RF 16 Ethier $10,950,000

IF/OF 6 Hairston $2,250,000
OF 10 Gwynn $850,000
2B/3B 3 Kennedy $800,000
C 18 Treanor $850,000
IF 12 Sellers $485,000 team control

SP 22 Kershaw $6,000,000
SP 58 Billingsley $9,000,000
SP 29 Lilly $12,000,000
SP 37 Capuano $3,000,000
SP 44
Harang $3,000,000

CL 54 Guerra $485,000 team control
RHP 74
Jansen $500,000 team control
RHP 55 Guerrier $4,750,000
RHP Coffey $1,000,000
RHP 66 MacDougal $650,000
LHP 57 Elbert $485,000 team control
RHP 36
Hawksworth $500,000 team control

TJ 41 De La Rosa $485,000 team control



Manny $8,087,432 deferred


Andruw $3,375,000 deferred


Pierre $3,050,000 deferred
Furcal $3,000,000 deferred
Kuroda $2,000,000 deferred
Garland $1,500,000 option buyout
Blake $1,250,000 option buyout

Totals
$112,162,432

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Players on 40-man roster used as roster
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Current 40-man roster count: 40
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2012 Non-Roster Invitees

No Player Age*
63 Jose Ascanio rhp
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61 Alberto Castillo lhp
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60 Matt Chico lhp
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35 John Grabow lhp
33
59 Angel Guzman rhp
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47 Wil Ledezma lhp
31
72 Shane Lindsay rhp
27
62 Fernando Nieve rhp 29
73 Scott Rice lhp 30
70 Will Savage rhp
27
71 Ryan Tucker rhp
25

30 Josh Bard c 34
82 Griff Erickson c 24
81 Matt Wallachc 26
67 Jeff Baisley 3b/1b 29
62 Luis Cruz ss/2b 28
33 Josh Fields 3b 29
64 Lance Zawadzki if 27
56 Cory Sullivan of 32

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