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The All-Time LA Dodger Team: The #4 Starter

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All-Time Lineup: #1 | #2 | #3 | #4 | #5 | #6 | #7 | #8
All-Time Starting Pitchers: #1 | #2 | #3

"And now I know you're dissatisfied
With your position and your place
Don't you understand
It's not my problem"

Bob Dylan, Positively 4th Street

So far the votes for our starting pitching staff have been runaways, but these top three are pretty solid.

All-Time LA Dodger Starting Pitchers

No Player Pos
32 Sandy Koufax
LHP
53 Don Drysdale RHP
55
Orel Hershiser RHP

Will we have our first close vote, for the fourth starter? To determine the #4 starter, the voting is the same as before, except that Koufax, Drysdale, and Orel are no longer eligible.

Eric's Pick

I'm sticking with Don Sutton, but let's look at some numbers, with Claude Osteen and Happy Hooton replacing Orel on the charts. Here are the top 5 seasons by ERA+

Osteen Hooton Sutton Valenzuela Brown Messersmith
127 147 161 141 169 149
124 146 160 135 169 132
117 130 144 122 143 129
115 123 127 116 --- ---
105 121 121 110 --- ---

Here are at the best five seasons using VORP:

Osteen Hooton Valenzuela Sutton Brown Messersmith
69.4 57.8 54.6 62.3 82.6 84.4
54.5 51.6 48.9 61.0 71.6 67.3
47.2 46.3 44.4 57.5 63.4 46.9
35.2 34.1 43.3 52.0 32.5 1.1
33.7 30.9 32.1 51.5 0.8 ---

I think Sutton is still the cream of the crop. However, the first three on our all-time pitching staff have won Cy Young Awards, and the only other LA Dodger starter to win the award, Fernando Valenzuela, is also out there. Claude Osteen actually has the second-highest 5-, 6-, 7-, and 8-year VORP of this group, behind Sutton. For this vote, I'm sticking with Suttonmania.

Phil's Pick

Fernando but I'm feeling sad for Osteen. Didn't he have huge ears like Sutton? Don't a lot of pitchers have big ears?

Who's your pick?