On the night before Rubby De La Rosa was going to make his first start as a Dodger after three relief appearances an innocuous comment was made by Xeifrank asking for a guess on his pitch count. Joey Joe said 90 and then spent the rest of the night defending that number.
Many of us felt the number was crazy high and that his max count should be 75 given his last start came on May 21st and he had thrown a total of 70 since then and it was now June 7th.
Not only did Rubby throw 90 pitches, he threw 96. Every single person was wrong but Joey Joe. The only reason I bring this up is not to feed Joey Joe's ego but to remind us that we all thought it would be crazy for management to let him have a pitch count >= 75, given he had not started since May 21. Some felt less was warranted. The Dodgers let him throw 96. On July 30th, he blew out his elbow. One is probably not related to the other, but I don't have a problem with going back to the date of his first start and at least reading what we thought would be prudent at the time.
its reasonable for a guy throwing 90
by Joey Joe on Jun 6, 2011 10:38 PM PDT up actions
if he blows out his arm throwin 90 pitches
on a 10 day between start rest…then it just aint meant to be for the Dodgers.
He’s not gonna blow out his arm, but 90 pitches is highly unrealistic.
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
we'll see...
Kershaw made i think 96 or so in his debut and he didnt have that much extra rest i dont think.
He was part of a regular rotation and made his debut on his normal rest period. As Eric noted below he has not made a start since May 15th
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
also didn’t work as a reliever for the two weeks prior. He started in the rotation on March 31.
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
Mainly because the brass would not let it happen after his layoff from the rotation.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I think you’ve probably never pitched passed Little League.
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
this aint spring training
i dont think Rubby needs to build it back that much
Right, that’s why 75 is normal. 90 is a full workload.
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
How has it only been 10 days since his last start?
and in his last start didn’t he only go like 3 innings? Its been weeks since he pitched more then 60 pitches
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
its been like 26 days since he pitched more then 3.2 innings
and his 2 starts after that where 3.2, then 2.0, then he got called up
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
60 is still kinda low. If he’s at like 65 I expect him to stop. If he’s at 60 I expect him to go another.
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
if the Dodgers really only thought they could get 60 out of him
they wouldnt be having him start IMO.
Starting a guy on those constraints just doesnt make much sense to me.I’d take 60 of Rubby De La Rosa and 60 of the bullpen for one start than 80 of John Ely and another short 40 from Rubby.
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
Also, I’ve said 75 like, 4 times now. 60 is low, 90 is high, holy shit! 75 is in the middle.
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
i'm on the high end
due to thinking he’ll be lights out
he can be as lights out as he wants
he ain’t going 90.
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Need to be more specific: 75 pitch complete game, you mean. :-)
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Maddux-esque!
I read this comment and my arm started to hurt. :(
Poor Deuce.
12-13 pitches an inning and eight strikeouts. The legend grows.
I doubt it
80
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
Rubby's workload of late
May 15: 96 (using Xei’s pitch count estimator of 3.3PA + 1.5SO + 2.2BB)
May 21: 31 (estimated)
May 24: 13
May 27: 29
May 30: 28No chance he touches 90 pitches tomorrow. Probably not even 80
by Eric Stephen on Jun 6, 2011 10:41 PM PDT up actions 8 recs
you did this better then me
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
I’m going to rec this so nobody has to fucking talk about this anymore.
Joey Joe thinks he knows better then well the world on this
so the facts aren’t going to get him stop running his mouth
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
So at this point we simply let him believe what he wants to believe. We also told him that Rubby wouldn’t be in the rotation in June, that Sands was going down, that Gordon would never see the Ravine before Sept. So…………..
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Jun 6, 2011 10:50 PM PDT up actions 4 recs
You’re not helping! : )
I think Joey Joe is a bit misunderstood
since I’ve become active again here, he doesn’t seem like a troll, just someone who is not wildly optimistic of the Dodgers’ chances and likes the young players. So what if it’s not totally realistic, neither is the prediction of a sweep for the Dodgers in every series. I don’t think he should get crucified for it.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
It sucks that he is going to blow his arm out in his 2nd start
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
by nolander on Jun 6, 2011 10:40 PM PDT up actions